Best of: Are Young Men Really Becoming More Sexist?

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  • Опубліковано 26 гру 2024
  • Are young men becoming radicalized? Could they be further to the right than even their fathers and grandfathers? These questions have yet to be answered definitively, but in some countries, electoral results and polls suggest that a meaningful group of young men may be finding a home in radical spaces. In this encore episode, host Jerusalem Demsas speaks to Dr. Alice Evans, a researcher at King’s College London, who has been traveling the world, trying to uncover the reason some societies are more equal than others. Her insights help explain why some young men may be turning against the tide of egalitarianism.
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  • @diannabryzicki7111
    @diannabryzicki7111 3 дні тому +14

    Divorce of people with children REQUIRING the divorced to stay attached BECAUSE of their children and the legal cost created by that is a HUGE reason young people don't want children.

  • @bk83082
    @bk83082 2 дні тому +15

    Yes. They are doing it intentionally. A significant amount of the sexism from the past 30 years came from the ingorance of men, many of whom genuinely wanted to do better. Today's brand of misogyny is intentional.

  • @charlesmiv3842
    @charlesmiv3842 3 дні тому +21

    Tip for my fellow men: stop putting so much importance on females and your lives will drastically improve. Focus on yourselves instead of chasing a romantic relationship.

    • @kahlilbt
      @kahlilbt 3 дні тому +3

      I live such a happy life just letting women come in and out of my life naturally. When I was over focused on women, I was stressed and depressed any time I felt like a woman wasn’t confirming my self value. Now I focus on my self value, and women see it and are attracted! And when there’s no women around, *I* confirm my own self worth, baby!

    • @nickthompson1812
      @nickthompson1812 3 дні тому +3

      It’s just a selfish life to do everything for yourself. I take care of myself, but I can’t help feeling that when I put away leftovers I could’ve been sharing these with someone else.

    • @charlesmiv3842
      @charlesmiv3842 2 дні тому +5

      @@nickthompson1812 You're not "sharing" anything. You're chasing others for self serving reasons.

    • @charlesmiv3842
      @charlesmiv3842 2 дні тому +2

      @@kahlilbt Yup, letting others dictate your self value is the biggest thing here. You have to find fulfillment from within, not without.

    • @PKMNFan4664
      @PKMNFan4664 2 дні тому +4

      As a bisexual man, I could never imagine putting romantic and sexual relationships on that much of a pedestal.

  • @necordektox879
    @necordektox879 2 дні тому +4

    There is a specific group of men who genuinely hate the loss of control over women, but on the whole I think gender relations have never been better. Many men have fought alongside women in our fight for gender equality. They are not a monolith just as we are not, as we see in the USA with the divide in voting preference between white women and black women.

  • @Ir0nFrog
    @Ir0nFrog 2 дні тому +2

    Overall I think this is a pretty balanced conversation. Many commenters haven’t even listened to the dialog.

  • @Papamagic321
    @Papamagic321 3 дні тому +8

    More sexist because more hateful

  • @brymht
    @brymht 3 дні тому +1

    How am I not seeing ads on this? I love that :)

    • @tristan7216
      @tristan7216 2 дні тому

      I used to think YT is trying to shape my opinion by letting me listen to NYT and Atlantic shows ad free. Then I noticed the view counts on those shows ☠️

    • @Mark-gg6iy
      @Mark-gg6iy 2 дні тому

      @@tristan7216 "Views" are tabulated based on a "video" being played for 30 seconds or more. In no way can one extrapolate the number of people who have seen or heard a second of said video. It can play while you are absent.

  • @chrisrus1965
    @chrisrus1965 2 дні тому +1

    Any truth to the rumor that the wage gap doesn't exist among young people?
    To what extent are "diversity/inclusion" hiring decisions a real thing? Are they not sexist? Would you support removing the race/gender question on applications?

    • @JoanDoe-pq5fu
      @JoanDoe-pq5fu День тому

      It still exists, and ceasing to take it into account won't make it go away. It simply sweeps it under the rug

  • @chrisrus1965
    @chrisrus1965 2 дні тому +6

    The problem with this video the assumption only men can be sexist.

    • @Mark-gg6iy
      @Mark-gg6iy 2 дні тому

      That assumption was not made other than in your failure to understand the framing of the argument. Can you not handle the concept and boundary of the question and subsequent theories and conclusions?
      The question could have just as easily been Are Young Women Really Becoming More Sexist? Had it been then only the examination of women's views would be relevant.
      With the rise of populism and the far right this conversation has value for people interested and care to think about societal trends.

    • @JoanDoe-pq5fu
      @JoanDoe-pq5fu День тому

      Swing and a miss

  • @GTS300Coupe
    @GTS300Coupe 3 дні тому +8

    Such a biased and anecdotal based interview. Out a balanced opinion because your interviewer and interviewee are only focused on their own interests as women

    • @user-fed-yum
      @user-fed-yum 3 дні тому

      🤣

    • @charlesmiv3842
      @charlesmiv3842 3 дні тому

      Male fragility on full display with this comment

    • @kahlilbt
      @kahlilbt 3 дні тому +4

      As I type they are listing statistics and studies.

    • @GTS300Coupe
      @GTS300Coupe 3 дні тому

      @ doesn't mean it's not biased. Statistics also prove that men's issues are more prevalent in society but these women only care about their own issues affecting them

    • @SgtDeezNuts
      @SgtDeezNuts 2 дні тому

      @@kahlilbt like that matters, you can use data to only talk what matters to you and in the way you want to talk about it. This interview suffers from the same problems all of MSM does, narrative over facts. And general lack of care for men, as usual.

  • @sagebreeze
    @sagebreeze 3 дні тому +3

    Yep.

  • @kahlilbt
    @kahlilbt 3 дні тому +5

    We’re not sexist: we’re just tired of women telling us how they want to be treated and holding us accountable. Quiet down, women, and be who WE decide you are!
    /sarcasm

    • @derpyeh9107
      @derpyeh9107 3 дні тому +2

      How's being snarky working out at the ballot box?

    • @nickthompson1812
      @nickthompson1812 3 дні тому +3

      I mean, they still have an idea of what YOU are as a man… I’m not sorry that I expect women to do what men cannot and have babies. We’re supposed to be complimentary, not competitive. Now we directly compete with each other in every facet of life, from housing to education to income to chores. I think it’s okay to have an idea of what a healthy society looks like and not so open minded that your brain falls out.

    • @kahlilbt
      @kahlilbt 2 дні тому

      @@nickthompson1812 You’re sorry alright lol

    • @kahlilbt
      @kahlilbt 2 дні тому

      @@derpyeh9107 The ballot box isn’t my measure of success or value

    • @DaveDDD
      @DaveDDD 2 дні тому

      @@derpyeh9107 do you think that the election was determined by spiteful manosphere losers? It was pretty obviously the economy and people interpreting that they were worse off today than four years ago and decided they needed it to “change”. The average voter is shockingly low-information and doesn’t even care to learn about policy positions or how feasible campaign promises are to be enacted.

  • @charlesmiv3842
    @charlesmiv3842 3 дні тому +4

    This lady’s voice is odd

    • @Mark-gg6iy
      @Mark-gg6iy 2 дні тому

      "This lady" In an interview with two women...........lol.

  • @nickthompson1812
    @nickthompson1812 3 дні тому +4

    Are they really dismissing that they have more rights than men at 4:15? I don’t have a right to see my unborn child, she has the right to end it. I am forced to put my body on the line to vote, by signing up for the draft. Women graduate at rates 1.3:1 of men from college, have specific scholarships just for women, etc. Must I continue? What rights do men have that women do not?

    • @necordektox879
      @necordektox879 2 дні тому +1

      The right to not be pregnant and give birth. In many states there are no exceptions for rape or incest.

    • @vira1340
      @vira1340 2 дні тому

      These discussions are a typical feminist tactic.

    • @d4mdcykey
      @d4mdcykey 2 дні тому +1

      There is no draft. And to defensively use the word "force' in regards to women is the epitome of narcissism. Great job, you've just proved their points.

    • @necordektox879
      @necordektox879 2 дні тому

      ​@@d4mdcykey The irony as well is that feminists had advanced the Equality Rights Act and one of the attacks against it from conservatives was that women may have to sign up for the draft as well. Conservatives asking why the boot is pressing down on them when they're the one with the boot.

    • @necordektox879
      @necordektox879 2 дні тому

      The irony as well is that feminists had advanced the Equal Rights Act, and one of the attacks against it from conservatives was that women may have to sign up for the draft. Conservatives decrying the boot being pressed down when they're the ones with the boot.

  • @Ryanrobi
    @Ryanrobi 2 дні тому

    There wayyy to much focus on education on here, thats becoming less and less important and a lower ROI since so many people are getting degrees there are only so many positions available and college coats and the opportunity cost to go are huge! The avg person that goes to college will be at 22 years old about $400k behind some one who learned a trade and was making $50k a year and not going into debt $50k a year. The avg journalist makes far less money than the average truck driver in fact the average truck driver makes more money than the average CPA lol. And this is not accounting for actual consumption not just W-2 income which most of these studies are based on because W-2 income is the highest taxed or is a lot of people who go into the trades and do not go to college on their own business and they purposely keep their income very low but they still own alot of assets. I know many people who are farmers run excavation companies construction companies who are worth more than 5 million dollars and I've never had a W-2 income over $40,000. Whereas if you're a journalist in New York City making $100,000 a year you couldn't even dream of buying a house or the guy with the excavation company probably owned six houses and 100 acres five or six trucks whole bunch of equipment etc. in fact anyone who knows anything about tax efficient wealth building knows that you want to keep w2 income as low as possible and get income from capital gains or use your company's assets for your own use pre tax.

    • @JoanDoe-pq5fu
      @JoanDoe-pq5fu 17 годин тому

      @Ryanrobi going into the trades is great thanks to union representation.

  • @elizabethb1096
    @elizabethb1096 2 дні тому

    Yes

  • @chrisrus1965
    @chrisrus1965 2 дні тому

    Imagine talking about partnerless women as you do about their counterparts in this video.

  • @Ryanrobi
    @Ryanrobi 2 дні тому

    Once again people are confusing causation with correlation people with college degrees do not make more money because they have a college degree If you control for IQ conscientiousness and ambition people without college degrees make at least as much money in almost all of the very richest people have no college degrees. This is lazy thinking and unscientific.

  • @x.GHOB.x
    @x.GHOB.x 2 дні тому

    Listening to modern feminists is just so utterly tiresome and boring.

  • @generybarczyk6993
    @generybarczyk6993 3 дні тому

    I was hoping for a Christmas-themed topic. SIGH
    Sometimes I think that it would be more realistic to develop survival strategies than to try to convince the tiger to become a vegan. We barely have a definition for one problem, let alone a solution, and new problems have rolled in. I mean, isn't it always the same question no matter your point of view: Why are people being so stupid? It seems to be the nature of the beast. It's just that I feel we're coming at it wrong. Maybe "Why?" is the wrong question.
    Perhaps AI is the answer. Apologies for the half-baked notions. Thanks for the stimulating podcast.

    • @user-fed-yum
      @user-fed-yum 3 дні тому +1

      🤣

    • @charlesmiv3842
      @charlesmiv3842 3 дні тому +3

      Bro what? A tiger becomes a vegan? What is this analogy supposed to represent?

    • @generybarczyk6993
      @generybarczyk6993 3 дні тому

      @@charlesmiv3842 That maybe trying to make things better isn't always the best approach. I admit, my point's a little vague, even to me,

    • @nickthompson1812
      @nickthompson1812 3 дні тому

      @@charlesmiv3842 don’t change what isn’t broken. Don’t make an animal into one he is not.

    • @dawnfmEnthusiast
      @dawnfmEnthusiast 2 дні тому

      @@generybarczyk6993 i kinda got the gist of what you were trying to say 👍🏼