That road snaking through the continent between the cities is oddly satisfying. It's so nice to get those before traders start sailing around NOT creating roads where you want them.
I watch them both, but I tend to watch Ursa more because he focuses on just civ 6. I don't mind seeing other games occasionally, but I'm a poor gamer so I don't enjoy watching stuff I'll never play as much 🤷
@@UrsaRyan Dude, Janissaries were an ottoman unit, they were there far before and far after Suleiman. But Corsairs were effective and became a thing in Suleiman's time. Ship units should have always been Suleiman's bonus historically. So it's more relevant to give janissaries as an ottoman's bonus and remove ships. Otherwise, that's a bit of a cringe.
I settle that floodplains next to the coffee for sure. I really like being able to chop the tile you settled, and the extra culture early is huge. Agoge and Colonization are both very useful to unlock a few turns earlier. Also, border expansion is a function of city culture output, so by the time Im read the to to work the pigs I'd have them anyways.
I feel like rambling on settling today, so skip on to the next comment and save your time haha. Im posting this before day 2 starts. Hard decision on where to settle. Settling on the rice a tile above is where Id go. Day two settle but you get: +1food in your city center, work a solid 2 + 2 tile and have many great tiles in the second ring, and get to stay costal. I think + one food is worth a day two settle. My rule of thumb is food and culture is worth like 1.5 standard yields until political philosophy at which point production on average becomes more and more worth it (especially once your cities are getting to 7 pop or so). For reference, I rate gold as .5 standard yields. So one food + one production day 2 vs + 3 gold day 1 or 2.5 yields vs 1.5 yields or a difference of 1 yield per turn. For math simplicity I say you get 20 yields for calculating settling cap on a different day so if you accept my math that the spot is + 1 yield after turn 20 that is a better spot (or at least in my head) and saved the hill + forest. Im not this robotic/calculative when playing, its just the numbers that landed surprisingly well that reflected my instinct and way I play. Second place (and arguably best) for me is the flood plain to the right since you get to work the 2+2 + 1 culture tile right away. A future city can worry about your navy and you save the hill and forest. By my math this should be just as good as the rice and you save a day right? Well you can still work the + 1 culture tile early settling the rice so it complicates it. It was not accounted for above because it is equally in ring 2 for settling in the two costal spots. So essentially once you work the 2+2 + 1 culture tile when settling rice, its back to being + 1 yield better, so IDK after about 30 turns rice spot would turns out better. But at that point you could argue being slightly behind could be what costs you something like a declaration of war which is not really accounted for, which makes this spot possibly better regardless of calculating tiles. And third is where you settled, I was thinking of settling there first. Settling day one is pretty important and being coastal obviously has its benefits while the spot is still more then good and has a more viable campus spot and more mausleum coast spots if the game ends up that way. Harbor games feel really nice with high pop, housing, and gold too. So for having tempo and galleys, this ends up being just as good as the other spots in my opinion. So a long winded answer of saying I think all three choices are valid spots knowing what we know on day 1. Especially because you are walking away from the better yeilds going to the rice, but I dont think that matters too much, since the quality is so good in general (and walking away is not much worse then removing a hill and woods to begin with).
£233 - Suleiman I, commonly known as Suleiman the Magnificent in the West, was the longest reigning Sultan of the Ottoman Empire. Not only did he preside over the apex of Ottoman Empire's economic, military and political power, but by taking control of the University of Sankore, he also oversaw the golden age of the Ottoman Empire in its artistic, literary and architectural development.
8:57 It's been a little "bug bear" of mine that, for whatever unknown reason, lakes and coast look the same in Ursa's games, despite them having always looked distinctly different in mine (lakes being a deeper blue). It means that without the context of the size of the body of water there's no way to judge whether it's a lake of coast (not that that method is 100% reliable, I've seen big lakes and tiny seas), which in this case meant missing the fact that a lake had been revealed and therefore more land must be on the other side of it.
Nice video! You just earned yourself a new subscriber 😁 Is that a mod that allows you to see the happines across your empire at the top of your screen? And if it is, what is the name of that mod?
Thanks so much!! There is and I'm so sorry I forget what it's called - if you come to discord though I keep a full list of the three dozen or so mods I use, it will be there!
Settle in place was the right choice. The gold you'll get from the truffles will get you the coffee tile soon enough, you have a good tiles already in the deer and truffles tiles to work until you get the money you need. In exchange you get access to the coast with the reefs, and those rice tiles down the line. I will admit though, the early game culture is tempting though. But you start miles behind the AI anyway, so who cares if you get your government a bit later
The best thing about the ottomans in this game is if u get Sinbad and naval forces on a Mediterranean map facing off against Spain, Portugal, Engand, Netherlands and Scotland u might as well pack your bags for a gold win right there.😂
You know I'm a big fan of Lady of the Reeds but I'm glad you went Goddess of the Hunt. Goddess of Festivals was an option as well I think with all that coffee, bananas, chocolate and tobacco nearby. I do wish LOTRAM was all floodplains and there's an argument for Oasis as well. It'd probably need a little nerf (+1production +1faith maybe) but it feels like it should apply to all those tile types.
I think the Egypt theming on it is very strong but yeah, it's a strange pantheon. I wonder if a floodplain based pantheon would generally just be pretty good!
Hay Ursa, interesting start to this one. A thought, have you considered, alongside any other requirements for a run, implementing a 'no gold up front' rule. To see how it goes/or show that it's worse. I'm pretty on the fence myself as I do both fairly regularly 😅
I would have crossed and settled on a rice for a 4 yield capital. There is one 2-2 tile in the first ring and I can grow towards/buy the coffee to make acquisition of later tiles smoother with the extra culture.
Sorry I was focused on the 4 food rice and the mention of the 4 yield made my mind jump to that. Guess my mind is a bit fried during finals week of medical school right now…
I don't understand why the devs didn't put the Janniesery to a new version of Suleiman. I know Suleiman executed Ibrahim after they get older so it's normal for Ibrahim not to be there but he didn't destroy the Janniesery soldiers.
hi! im new to this game, and i only have it as the main base game, with no dlcs, but, how do you do to have that many horses and other strategic resources? i only have like 1 or 2 but they have infinite "uses"
If you have two of a strategic resource you can build as many units of that type as you like. 1, and you can only build them in cities with an encampment. Come over to discord - we have a huge Civ 6 community that can help with questions like this = )
I think settling on flood plain is too risky as you could have your capital's population wiped out at a critical point destroying your momentum completely
This is funny if I was a new player and you told me one of them was the original and another was a new add on persona I would say this one is the original
To b fair I am not a big fan of bonuses that just give flat +10-15% on one or more of the basic stats without any special requirement, like say how Lautaro of the Mapuche does. Reason is simply because the Deity AI players benefit disproportionately more from such bonuses making even more tedious to beat them. We all know how people hate Australia as a deity AI with the +100% production every time they get declared on. Or Korea Deity AI with their notoriously science game.
Why is it when I watch ursa I'll notice random little non optimal things that very lightly annoy me and yet when I play I'm total ass comparatively lol. Obviously I'm entirely more inefficient with way more moves. I'll just stick to my immortal level playing ass self and let the pro, pro
Haha - it's the benefit of not thinking about everything! Top down viewing is really helpful = ) Imagine how good CIv players would be if they had actual advisors helping them out
It's scary to think Gorgo is getting that *and possibly one-shot culture bursts from kills*... Although the latter is almost a drop in the bucket compared to that! Is this also a sign of the AI patch? I could imagine it...
Honestly he'd be way better if it weren't for the fact he loses the janissary unique unit. Ibrahim is kinda trash as a governor anyways, the only good thing he has is the +20% production bonus to military units and the extra combat strength for units within 10 tiles, and 20% production and 10 combat strength on a single city isn't all that helpful. But the janissaries are such a good part of Suleiman's kit and let him get a domination victory as early as gunpowder was unlocked. Trading that for an inconsistent buff in science and culture on a civ that is supposed to be a domination powerhouse is kind of pointless.
Worse I'm not sure - less specific. The science and culture essentially fills in a gap with teching up - it's more well rounded. Better? I'm not yet sure!
you could say the 15% bonus is
magnificent..
very good sir
Ow! My pun detector blew its' speaker! Noice!
boesus?
Boeesus
@@deepk7756 boesus
Time to fall asleep watching an Ursa video, then watch it again the next day to not fall behing on a series
My man
Not to mention using his save file to try it out, using his own strategy but completely failing unlike him
Glad im not the only one
Thought I was the only one
This is exactly what I do, voice too soothing I end up watching the video 3 times because of falling asleep lol
Started my day watching Potato, Boes and Ursa's new civ videos
The trifactarate of civ = )
That road snaking through the continent between the cities is oddly satisfying. It's so nice to get those before traders start sailing around NOT creating roads where you want them.
I WISH we could pick the trade route tiles to travel on - actually making useful roads would be so cool!
I can't believe the subscriber numbers for this channel, it should be up there with PotatoMkWhiskey
Was a PotatoMcwhiskey viewer, now fully converted to Ursa Ryan
I watch them both
I watch them both, but I tend to watch Ursa more because he focuses on just civ 6. I don't mind seeing other games occasionally, but I'm a poor gamer so I don't enjoy watching stuff I'll never play as much 🤷
Facts
It should be higher tbh, I stopped even watching him but I subscribed waaay before here
Man, losing Janissaries hurts. They are such a good unit and let you steamroll through the map as soon as gunpowder gets unlocked
Yeah that one hurts - luckily the 15% science is AMAZING to make up for it
@@UrsaRyan Dude, Janissaries were an ottoman unit, they were there far before and far after Suleiman. But Corsairs were effective and became a thing in Suleiman's time. Ship units should have always been Suleiman's bonus historically. So it's more relevant to give janissaries as an ottoman's bonus and remove ships. Otherwise, that's a bit of a cringe.
Early bears are happy once again.
Early bears are just the best!!
I settle that floodplains next to the coffee for sure. I really like being able to chop the tile you settled, and the extra culture early is huge.
Agoge and Colonization are both very useful to unlock a few turns earlier. Also, border expansion is a function of city culture output, so by the time Im read the to to work the pigs I'd have them anyways.
Yeah this would have been a great alt start, can't take that away!
I feel like rambling on settling today, so skip on to the next comment and save your time haha. Im posting this before day 2 starts.
Hard decision on where to settle.
Settling on the rice a tile above is where Id go.
Day two settle but you get: +1food in your city center, work a solid 2 + 2 tile and have many great tiles in the second ring, and get to stay costal. I think + one food is worth a day two settle. My rule of thumb is food and culture is worth like 1.5 standard yields until political philosophy at which point production on average becomes more and more worth it (especially once your cities are getting to 7 pop or so). For reference, I rate gold as .5 standard yields. So one food + one production day 2 vs + 3 gold day 1 or 2.5 yields vs 1.5 yields or a difference of 1 yield per turn. For math simplicity I say you get 20 yields for calculating settling cap on a different day so if you accept my math that the spot is + 1 yield after turn 20 that is a better spot (or at least in my head) and saved the hill + forest. Im not this robotic/calculative when playing, its just the numbers that landed surprisingly well that reflected my instinct and way I play.
Second place (and arguably best) for me is the flood plain to the right since you get to work the 2+2 + 1 culture tile right away. A future city can worry about your navy and you save the hill and forest. By my math this should be just as good as the rice and you save a day right? Well you can still work the + 1 culture tile early settling the rice so it complicates it. It was not accounted for above because it is equally in ring 2 for settling in the two costal spots. So essentially once you work the 2+2 + 1 culture tile when settling rice, its back to being + 1 yield better, so IDK after about 30 turns rice spot would turns out better. But at that point you could argue being slightly behind could be what costs you something like a declaration of war which is not really accounted for, which makes this spot possibly better regardless of calculating tiles.
And third is where you settled, I was thinking of settling there first. Settling day one is pretty important and being coastal obviously has its benefits while the spot is still more then good and has a more viable campus spot and more mausleum coast spots if the game ends up that way. Harbor games feel really nice with high pop, housing, and gold too. So for having tempo and galleys, this ends up being just as good as the other spots in my opinion.
So a long winded answer of saying I think all three choices are valid spots knowing what we know on day 1. Especially because you are walking away from the better yeilds going to the rice, but I dont think that matters too much, since the quality is so good in general (and walking away is not much worse then removing a hill and woods to begin with).
Some great analysis, thank you! I think I'm happy with option 3 with the benefit of hindsight but yes all three would have been great choices I think
£233 - Suleiman I, commonly known as Suleiman the Magnificent in the West, was the longest reigning Sultan of the Ottoman Empire. Not only did he preside over the apex of Ottoman Empire's economic, military and political power, but by taking control of the University of Sankore, he also oversaw the golden age of the Ottoman Empire in its artistic, literary and architectural development.
8:57 It's been a little "bug bear" of mine that, for whatever unknown reason, lakes and coast look the same in Ursa's games, despite them having always looked distinctly different in mine (lakes being a deeper blue). It means that without the context of the size of the body of water there's no way to judge whether it's a lake of coast (not that that method is 100% reliable, I've seen big lakes and tiny seas), which in this case meant missing the fact that a lake had been revealed and therefore more land must be on the other side of it.
I used to have a mod that made the colour difference even bigger but it might have disabled itself - I'll have a look, thanks for reminding me
now a sub , Merry Christmas
Huzzah, merry christmas!!!
I would have settled on the rice, the extra 1 food you get is just really good for the early tempo
These new leaders have interesting benefits. Really excited to see how this series plays out
A present 🎁 you deserve!
Cheers = )
*Good morning Ursa!! looking forward to more content! congrats going full time! Hope to follow in you footsteps someday lol! Have a good Friday!* 👍💪
Keep at it! I looked at it like a distant pipe dream for years myself so I know the feeling!!!
@@UrsaRyan Yeah it sure is depressing at times! lol Cheers for the reply
onion man got the tan and the crazy brows. lets go, that is maginificent
I love greece in the end just casually having more culture than all other Civs combined
Greece is low key raging this game!
Nice video! You just earned yourself a new subscriber 😁
Is that a mod that allows you to see the happines across your empire at the top of your screen? And if it is, what is the name of that mod?
Thanks so much!! There is and I'm so sorry I forget what it's called - if you come to discord though I keep a full list of the three dozen or so mods I use, it will be there!
Settle in place was the right choice. The gold you'll get from the truffles will get you the coffee tile soon enough, you have a good tiles already in the deer and truffles tiles to work until you get the money you need. In exchange you get access to the coast with the reefs, and those rice tiles down the line.
I will admit though, the early game culture is tempting though. But you start miles behind the AI anyway, so who cares if you get your government a bit later
Early game culture is always a good shout = )
Wow, you got this video up QUICK!
It was an effort but it was good fun!
I keep waiting for your videos like when I was a kid waiting for that evening cartoon to get on telly.
That's sweet to read, glad to hear it!!
The best thing about the ottomans in this game is if u get Sinbad and naval forces on a Mediterranean map facing off against Spain, Portugal, Engand, Netherlands and Scotland u might as well pack your bags for a gold win right there.😂
"Let's just get cracking."
Now all I see is Ursa Simon exploiting the hell out of sudoku puzzles.
Goodbye, Janissary. Hello Golden Age thingies.
15% delicious science and culture makes Ursa a happy boy
You know I'm a big fan of Lady of the Reeds but I'm glad you went Goddess of the Hunt. Goddess of Festivals was an option as well I think with all that coffee, bananas, chocolate and tobacco nearby.
I do wish LOTRAM was all floodplains and there's an argument for Oasis as well. It'd probably need a little nerf (+1production +1faith maybe) but it feels like it should apply to all those tile types.
I think the Egypt theming on it is very strong but yeah, it's a strange pantheon. I wonder if a floodplain based pantheon would generally just be pretty good!
I love your enthusiasm 😁
Huzzah!!!
Hay Ursa, interesting start to this one.
A thought, have you considered, alongside any other requirements for a run, implementing a 'no gold up front' rule. To see how it goes/or show that it's worse. I'm pretty on the fence myself as I do both fairly regularly 😅
I actually played my last couple of games like that! Both work well - I just like the snowball effect of getting gold quicker to buy stuff faster
I like these 3 better than the first 3.
Some great variations!
I would have crossed and settled on a rice for a 4 yield capital. There is one 2-2 tile in the first ring and I can grow towards/buy the coffee to make acquisition of later tiles smoother with the extra culture.
Can’t embark without the tech. Impossible
@@JohnMoore-fr5fd There's one right across the river.
Sorry I was focused on the 4 food rice and the mention of the 4 yield made my mind jump to that. Guess my mind is a bit fried during finals week of medical school right now…
What qualities do you look for in a future Horse husband? A working horse who can provide for his family?
Strong, meaty hoofs to bind our family together like glue
I don't understand why the devs didn't put the Janniesery to a new version of Suleiman. I know Suleiman executed Ibrahim after they get older so it's normal for Ibrahim not to be there but he didn't destroy the Janniesery soldiers.
Different focus on the leader I think. Yeah I miss them but let's see if the 15% makes up for it!
Will Ursa build the University of Sankore? Find out next time on Dragon Ball Z!
I definitely would've settled in place too. And them rushed artemis instead of etemenanki
...uploaded 53 seconds ago... wow I'm super early to this partay!!
My lord you got on that quick!
Looks like a really fun civ!
Very fun, I'd recommend!
7 hours is impressive!
Haha - most of that was uploading on my internet!! I went to bed and woke up just before 1am to check it was all OK!
eti men tanky, lady of the reeds and marches, laugh all the way to the end.
Why does he have a unibrow?!?!?!
They did him dirty. He looks like Recep Ivedik
yay full time Ursa support
Huzzah!!! You're all the best XD
Weekend plans sorted!
Huzzah!!!
hi! im new to this game, and i only have it as the main base game, with no dlcs, but, how do you do to have that many horses and other strategic resources? i only have like 1 or 2 but they have infinite "uses"
If you have two of a strategic resource you can build as many units of that type as you like. 1, and you can only build them in cities with an encampment.
Come over to discord - we have a huge Civ 6 community that can help with questions like this = )
I think settling on flood plain is too risky as you could have your capital's population wiped out at a critical point destroying your momentum completely
Yeah, it's risky business!
22:50 discord call?
I'll be amazingly disappointed if Ursa doesn't go for the Huey in that lake. It should be a +5 iirc.
yeh settle in place, if the city does not grow to it, use the gold from the pigs to buy the other tile.
New Leader!
Huzzah!
This is funny if I was a new player and you told me one of them was the original and another was a new add on persona I would say this one is the original
It's true - not often the new one is more simple!!
Just watch the ottoman empire season 2 and will give this guy a play through. Hoping season 3 is about suleiman
actually suleiman isnt the best Sultan Mehmed the conquerer and Selim the Grim is better
This map screams Golden Gate Bridge and Panama Canal
Yeah - if i was going for Culture I would have been straight there!
I'm still counting this as an EARLY BEAR
I'll always believe in the early bears = )
I am liking these new leader tweaks. Shame there's no immediate prospect of getting them on Switch (play most on Ninty these days)
Yeah it's a real shame - I hope they do expand it soon
He is like a arabic or kurdish,seems like a they are just mixed everything
Suleiman sure likes tanning
To b fair I am not a big fan of bonuses that just give flat +10-15% on one or more of the basic stats without any special requirement, like say how Lautaro of the Mapuche does. Reason is simply because the Deity AI players benefit disproportionately more from such bonuses making even more tedious to beat them. We all know how people hate Australia as a deity AI with the +100% production every time they get declared on. Or Korea Deity AI with their notoriously science game.
The golden age limitation helps keep the ai in check - they are hilariously bad at keeping golden. Gives the player some time to catch up!
Do you have the seed for this game?
It's ata the start of the video but the save file is also on discord
Why is it when I watch ursa I'll notice random little non optimal things that very lightly annoy me and yet when I play I'm total ass comparatively lol. Obviously I'm entirely more inefficient with way more moves. I'll just stick to my immortal level playing ass self and let the pro, pro
Haha - it's the benefit of not thinking about everything! Top down viewing is really helpful = ) Imagine how good CIv players would be if they had actual advisors helping them out
think settling on rice seemed better
Maybe! You'll need to give the game a try to see!
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sorry for using the comment section for this but someone knows how to fix the pacl, i have it instaled but it doesnt appear in game
Sorry to plug it but come to discord - we have a lot of people where who can help troubleshoot for you!
@@UrsaRyan thanks You they helped me alot
Bruh i've been watching your videos daily for like a few months and i only just realized all this time i was not subscribed...
Well, good thing you noticed now!! Thanks for watching = )
HOW MUCH CULTURE IS GORGO GETTING
WHY IS THERE NO DECIMAL POINT
Gorgo is doing Gorgo things XD thank goodness this isn't Pericles!!!
It's scary to think Gorgo is getting that *and possibly one-shot culture bursts from kills*... Although the latter is almost a drop in the bucket compared to that!
Is this also a sign of the AI patch? I could imagine it...
Are the new leaders coming to console?
No, not for a while at least = ( Seems to be a complicated and thorny issue
When a scout find your city for the first time, an exclamation mark appear above it and it rushes back to his camp to warn the others.
Yep - kill it with fire before it arrives!!
Oooooo it’s a late Civ video!
Suprise!!
Strange abilities, not exploitable.. Very situative and not interesting to abuse..
Oh don't worry we'll find a way to abuse this = )
How about You Civ6 UA-camrs make some live match all together?
Did you see the 2022 Civ Give? Worth a look if not!
I unsubed and resubed and left a like Merry Christmas Ursa!
Haha - thank you I guess?! XD
for the algo
Hey, if I could subscribe again, I'd totally do it! 😉
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Daily comment.
Bad settle
lady of the reeds and marshes not improving normal but only desert flood plains is such a bullshit design choice -.-
I think it's supposed to be a egypt esc thing = )
This version is way worse
Honestly he'd be way better if it weren't for the fact he loses the janissary unique unit. Ibrahim is kinda trash as a governor anyways, the only good thing he has is the +20% production bonus to military units and the extra combat strength for units within 10 tiles, and 20% production and 10 combat strength on a single city isn't all that helpful. But the janissaries are such a good part of Suleiman's kit and let him get a domination victory as early as gunpowder was unlocked. Trading that for an inconsistent buff in science and culture on a civ that is supposed to be a domination powerhouse is kind of pointless.
Worse I'm not sure - less specific. The science and culture essentially fills in a gap with teching up - it's more well rounded. Better? I'm not yet sure!
This is the first Christmas we’ll have with Suleiman the Great in 456 years. It’s been so long, Sultan. It hasn’t been the same without you 🥲