Jurors in Karen Read trial visit site of John O'Keefe's death

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  • @babyfishez
    @babyfishez 8 місяців тому +62

    STOP IT SUE. Katie is lying. In addition to being drinking buddies, they were on the track team together.

    • @cross_fire935
      @cross_fire935 8 місяців тому +16

      How can you not know that your friend’s brother is a cop

    • @karliann1
      @karliann1 7 місяців тому +14

      ​@@cross_fire935a cop in a small town who was on a TV show!!!!

    • @galaxys6071
      @galaxys6071 7 місяців тому

      ​@@cross_fire935 sooo imagine ... he was putting on a lost shoe and sh

    • @tammydube8870
      @tammydube8870 7 місяців тому +1

      What did you just say how in the world did you twist in a lesbian comment. Pathetic

    • @bobcousins4810
      @bobcousins4810 7 місяців тому +11

      The way the defense had to drag even simple information from her made her look sketchy as hell. If there is no cover up, then there is no need to deny being friends with Caitlyn Albert, denying she knew the Alberts, where they lived, or basically knowing anything she did in the last 10 years... Together with Auntie Bev, this reluctance to reveal crucial information is really playing into the defense cover up theory, and I bet the jury are joining the dots.

  • @bonniejohn517
    @bonniejohn517 8 місяців тому +41

    Any “acquaintance” should be immediately recognized. Plus she said she didn’t know her but then we have those pictures of them together.

    • @EmmaDee
      @EmmaDee 7 місяців тому +16

      Yep and as unbiased viewer, that lady was lying through her teeth.

    • @galaxys6071
      @galaxys6071 7 місяців тому +4

      Sad lies. Very sad. She said she knew someone of the name... then she took pictures with that name, then they did it more than 6x, then they're famous, then your name is tagged in social media (the jury of peers knows social media friendship, then... she doesn't recall so she is that great

    • @lindamattina4029
      @lindamattina4029 7 місяців тому

      this judge is as crooked as they come!

  • @bonniejohn517
    @bonniejohn517 8 місяців тому +57

    Free Karen Read totally equates to Justice for John. Go after the blue brotherhood that clearly turned their back on him.

    • @julianarodriguex899
      @julianarodriguex899 8 місяців тому +3

      Maybe he rejected a brothers romantic advances. Who knows.

    • @EmmaDee
      @EmmaDee 7 місяців тому +10

      @@julianarodriguex899hey! You seriously have to wonder what on earth sparked this sad death but I don’t believe for one minute that the gf hit him.

    • @hanzo3188
      @hanzo3188 7 місяців тому +1

      "I hit him" She literally said it.

    • @Pug_Mom11
      @Pug_Mom11 7 місяців тому +7

      @@hanzo3188 no she didn’t

    • @kristenpino4635
      @kristenpino4635 7 місяців тому +5

      ​@@hanzo3188There is no proof of that, the only thing we have heard is witnesses that have changed their stories. Most of them NEVER told the police that, the state GJ or the Federal GJ.

  • @karliann1
    @karliann1 7 місяців тому +31

    Minimizing is the same as lying Katie

  • @pistolpete8231
    @pistolpete8231 7 місяців тому +40

    So let me get this straight:
    A large 6'2 man is struck with enough force with a vehicle to take that man's life, yet there's only a minor cracked tailight? No fender bender? Literally no other damage to the vehicle?
    And what's even more funny is the fact that there is VIDEO of her striking something: she struck John O'keefe's vehicle on camera and we all saw it.
    There's no way the jury is going to convict her. What a sham. The boston PD should get investigated.

    • @marygoff3332
      @marygoff3332 7 місяців тому +14

      This entire case is a joke. Poor John O'Keefe. ❤

    • @lawrenceandcheryldoudiet5090
      @lawrenceandcheryldoudiet5090 7 місяців тому +12

      The FBI is currently investigating. The defence is not allowed to make mention of it during trial.

    • @pistolpete8231
      @pistolpete8231 7 місяців тому +10

      @@lawrenceandcheryldoudiet5090 how long is their investigation going to last? This case should've been dropped long time ago

    • @josiemiller6524
      @josiemiller6524 7 місяців тому +6

      Not only is there no other damage to the vehicle, John had no injuries whatsoever below his shoulders. He was 6’2”, he had no internal bleeding, no organ damage, no bruise, fracture or break of any kind below his shoulders. Find me someone who’s been hit by an SUV that size, who has no broken bones anywhere on their body. Proctor, the lead detective is under investigation by IAB, yet still working full duty, he was even assigned another homicide case a couple months ago!

    • @sandcastlesp
      @sandcastlesp 7 місяців тому +3

      Notice there is that flap underneath the car? It may have been the thing that scraped his arm. If he was bending down then he got hit on head and he fell back

  • @PostalWorker14
    @PostalWorker14 8 місяців тому +27

    Buyers of house got a bargain because sellers knew there was murder there

    • @josiemiller6524
      @josiemiller6524 7 місяців тому +5

      There’s no way the new owners don’t know what happened on their front lawn. If that were me, I would welcome the police in to see if they were able to find any left over forensic evidence.

    • @nobodysfool2750
      @nobodysfool2750 7 місяців тому +4

      They reduced it by 50,000 may have helped the sale...

    • @justaguy259
      @justaguy259 7 місяців тому +2

      @@josiemiller6524the police would have to want to do that first. If they wanted to investigate that house they could have one way or another.

    • @Darcey-t4s
      @Darcey-t4s 7 місяців тому +1

      Absolutely true 👍

  • @chrislim7615
    @chrislim7615 8 місяців тому +21

    But she had a whole stack of holiday pics with ppl she said(she"s not close2)?!!!Yeah..

    • @jay-el-bee
      @jay-el-bee 7 місяців тому +1

      Three photos. That's what was presented to her. She said she wasn't "close" to Kaitlyn Albert. She said she and Kaitlyn shared mutual friends.
      Its not unrealistic that she could have been in photos with her friends as well as Kaitlyn since they had friends in common.
      The attorney who tried to enter the photos into evidence is the one who messed this up. He left out a lot of important info. Who originally posted the photos? Were they from Mclaughlin's own Facebook account? What dates were the photos posted? What location was provided on those photos?
      I'm not saying Mclaughlin was honest or that she wasn't. The reality is that the lawyer is the one responsible for bringing the "receipts" for his claims. Maybe he'll have an opportunity to do so later. 🤷‍♀️

  • @MValleysMostWanted91
    @MValleysMostWanted91 7 місяців тому +2

    Justice for John O'Keefe!!

  • @chrislim7615
    @chrislim7615 8 місяців тому +19

    Why bother 2testify(when every answer)was she can't rememb

    • @nobodysfool2750
      @nobodysfool2750 7 місяців тому +4

      They never say i don't recall to lally tho

  • @SarahSodaJ1
    @SarahSodaJ1 7 місяців тому +26

    The Commonwealths case doesn't make common sense.

    • @Darcey-t4s
      @Darcey-t4s 7 місяців тому +1

      Lally and bev are horrible going along with Morrissey stunt

    • @nicci337
      @nicci337 7 місяців тому +2

      They haven't even explained how they think she killed him, its that bad.

  • @paulcristoforo1402
    @paulcristoforo1402 8 місяців тому +36

    It blew up because Turtleboy broke the news a year ago

    • @RIIrishgal69
      @RIIrishgal69 7 місяців тому +5

      Absolutely.

    • @Gle7799
      @Gle7799 7 місяців тому +2

      Turtle boy is a flake

    • @RIIrishgal69
      @RIIrishgal69 7 місяців тому +3

      @@Gle7799 lol lol 😂

    • @baggszilla
      @baggszilla 7 місяців тому +3

      TurtleBoy will be known as The Man that helped free Karen Read and helped put those bastards behind jail with no pensions or annuities!

    • @RIIrishgal69
      @RIIrishgal69 7 місяців тому +1

      @@baggszilla amen to that

  • @bonniejohn517
    @bonniejohn517 8 місяців тому +16

    She was also referring to her as a civilian on the scene and not somebody she knew

    • @jay-el-bee
      @jay-el-bee 7 місяців тому +1

      Wait.. Kaitlyn Albert was on the scene?

    • @Jak7885
      @Jak7885 7 місяців тому +4

      She wasn't on scene. Kerry Roberts I believe was referred to as a "civilian". Both Jen McCabe and Kerry Roberts were there with KR that morning.

  • @kaykat1059
    @kaykat1059 7 місяців тому +12

    The judge instructed that they could only ‘object’ with no reason given. She wants it hidden from the record. It’s a shame the program doesn’t actually know the facts. There are no supporters for the police outside. Protestors research facts, not misinformation.

    • @janehilliard4265
      @janehilliard4265 7 місяців тому +1

      I thought the same thing, I knew why the objections weren't allowed, from listening to thr trial like you

    • @Hudini-g7
      @Hudini-g7 7 місяців тому +3

      Turtle boy news (an award winning reporter). Broke the story and has shed light on this case which may have revealed the truth

    • @MissteryDiva
      @MissteryDiva 7 місяців тому

      @kaykat1059 Judges brother defended Albert & they call her "Aunt Bev"‼️ John O'Keefe had Chris Albert's son Colin arrested for drugs in the past so there's the motive! Jen McCabe Brian Albert's sis in law googled " How long to die in cold" at 2:37 am‼️ Proctor texted his friend's how they won't investigate them‼️John had dog scratches on his arms‼️ Cop Cover Up

  • @tammydube8870
    @tammydube8870 7 місяців тому +10

    It was the cops that requested the sec 12

  • @markuscurran2373
    @markuscurran2373 7 місяців тому +9

    That’s is a absolute lie that Katie doesn’t know Caitlin I went to high school with them they were best friends

    • @NBC10Boston
      @NBC10Boston  7 місяців тому

      Markus, if you’d like to discuss more about this, send us an email at canton.confidential@nbcuni.com

    • @Hudini-g7
      @Hudini-g7 7 місяців тому +3

      Yes new photos Kate is on vacation in Maine on two occasions and some island near cape cod all standing next to Caitlin Albert. Oh one is in a hot tub ! Perjury is serious in capital murder case in ma. Life in state prison. !

  • @SweetAzSugar111
    @SweetAzSugar111 8 місяців тому +13

    Why visit the bar? Not as significant as the house is

    • @RIIrishgal69
      @RIIrishgal69 7 місяців тому +3

      Omg waterfall drinks are so so so strong

    • @Krystal_Kleer
      @Krystal_Kleer 7 місяців тому +1

      ​@@RIIrishgal69
      My kind of bar 😂 🍻

    • @nicci337
      @nicci337 7 місяців тому +1

      they don't even know how he died . They haven;'t even explained to the jury what they think she did and why she's being charged because they don't even know.

    • @Krystal_Kleer
      @Krystal_Kleer 7 місяців тому

      @@nicci337 In the Commonwealths opening statement, which wasn't very good, they pretty much laid out their theory.
      They said the two went out drinking, had an argument about going to an after party, she dropped him off at the party. After dropping him off in front of the party house, while leaving , she threw the car in reverse, hit him on purpose and left him to die in the snow.

    • @RIIrishgal69
      @RIIrishgal69 7 місяців тому +1

      I visit there because I was with people that have gone there !!!!!!! Next time don’t ask a question like that !!!!!!

  • @Pug_Mom11
    @Pug_Mom11 7 місяців тому +6

    The town of Canton sees through this facade and now they know where their tax dollars are going. There’s going to be a ripple effect of ramifications all to protect two thugs.

  • @janehilliard4265
    @janehilliard4265 8 місяців тому +6

    Why did prosecution want them to look inside the SUV

    • @MsArtemis64
      @MsArtemis64 7 місяців тому

      I read somewhere that the passenger side air bag was missing, possibly because it went off when she hit him. Who knows with so many rumors and wild stories going around!

  • @EmmaDee
    @EmmaDee 7 місяців тому +8

    They weren’t just old high school pics, weren’t there more recent pics?

  • @Darcey-t4s
    @Darcey-t4s 7 місяців тому +5

    Colin and Brian Albert are responsible for his demise how bout we tell the truth Albert's

  • @nobodysfool2750
    @nobodysfool2750 7 місяців тому +8

    Why downplay knowing the albert girl? If u have nothing to hide

  • @marytracy7955
    @marytracy7955 7 місяців тому +8

    The biggest thing that came out today was
    McLaughlin saying the name Kevin Albert doesn't sound familiar to her. This women is a lifelong townie and EMT and doesn't know a Senior officer on a force of about 25? They also got her to say she doesn't know other specific members of the Albert family. This will come back later in the trial.
    These EMT's never thought this was going to trial. The fire chiefs daughter was in the house that night. I think most of them just went along with the suggestion they heard Read saying "I hit him", thinking it will help out their boss and his friends. Why do you think they upped the charges? It was to force a plea and sweep all of this under the rug. They ( Canton PD, MSP, and Norfolk DA) got away with coving up the murder of Sandra Birchmore, of course they thought this could be swept under the rug as well.

  • @MValleysMostWanted91
    @MValleysMostWanted91 7 місяців тому

    How can you look at a different vehicle?

  • @iamintentional
    @iamintentional 7 місяців тому +11

    The judge is clearly biased and has serious control issues. It's torture listening to her heavy sighs, and the way that she lambasts the defense not realizing she's just setting a perfect scenario for an appeal. It's obvious to everybody and my guess is it's obvious to the jury as well

  • @brand219
    @brand219 7 місяців тому +11

    I'm friends with all of those people in the photos and she's friends with all of those people in the ohotos but she and I aren't friends.... Ha!

  • @TheSkipTracer
    @TheSkipTracer 7 місяців тому +5

    5:00 The defense was asking the most ridiculous questions of her, like asking her to identify the beach she was at based on the bathing suit she was wearing. Like, do people wear certain bathing suits for certain beaches? I certainly don't. I also don't know who all my Facebook friends are either.

    • @josiemiller6524
      @josiemiller6524 7 місяців тому +5

      So do you have pictures on any social media platform with people you went to school with, played sports with (they were both on the track team) and hang out with in multiple social settings who you don’t know??

    • @TheSkipTracer
      @TheSkipTracer 7 місяців тому +7

      ​​@@josiemiller6524well let's be clear and stick with the actual facts. She never said that she didn't know who she was. She says that she's not friends with her, as in one-on-one friends. And yes I have people on my Facebook friend's list that I've had associations with but I'm not friends with. Most ppl do. The defense couldn't come up with one single image or piece of proof that showed the two having a one-on-one friendship.

    • @MFC7625
      @MFC7625 7 місяців тому

      ​@@TheSkipTracerBecause he wasn't allowed to by the judge, which is against rule 14. Picture of them drinking, holding each other. They were on the same track team. She lied to her teeth. All the lies with: I don't know.... The defense will prove it in cross examination with Caitlin Albert. With FBI investigation they must have her phone data.

    • @marytracy7955
      @marytracy7955 7 місяців тому +3

      The biggest thing that came out today was
      McLaughlin saying the name Kevin Albert doesn't sound familiar to her. This women is a lifelong townie and EMT and doesn't know a Senior officer on a force of about 25? They also got her to say she doesn't know other specific members of the Albert family. This will come back later in the trial.
      These EMT's never thought this was going to trial. The fire chiefs daughter was in the house that night. I think most of them just went along with the suggestion they heard Read saying "I hit him", thinking it will help out their boss and his friends. Why do you think they upped the charges? It was to force a plea and sweep all of this under the rug. They ( Canton PD, MSP, and Norfolk DA) got away with coving up the murder of Sandra Birchmore, of course they thought this could be swept under the rug as well.

    • @univerzaltruth6481
      @univerzaltruth6481 7 місяців тому +5

      Katie came across as wholly duplicitous. She had some form of relationship beyond acquaintance with Caitlin. That's the point.

  • @chrislim7615
    @chrislim7615 8 місяців тому +3

    But hasn't it changed after:2yrs!

  • @VictorMendez-l6u
    @VictorMendez-l6u 7 місяців тому

    question, there were not injuries to his torso after a violent fight, dont you think kohn would have bruises on his knuckles fighting back? dont you think carrying a half dead man 6 feet over 200 pounds wouldnt cause some type of bruising and throwing him out in the snow?

    • @nicci337
      @nicci337 7 місяців тому

      and also why we know she didn't do it, it would have been impossible for her to pull him out of the car herself.

    • @VictorMendez-l6u
      @VictorMendez-l6u 7 місяців тому

      @@nicci337 are you kidding me? he got out of the car himself when she hit him.

    • @nicci337
      @nicci337 7 місяців тому

      @@VictorMendez-l6u that doesn't make sense at all.

    • @VictorMendez-l6u
      @VictorMendez-l6u 7 місяців тому

      @@nicci337 what do you mean? you said the autopsy report was said the injuries were cause by a violent fight so why did they press charges against karen? it makes sense doesnt it?

  • @RIIrishgal69
    @RIIrishgal69 7 місяців тому +8

    Where’s the ford edge

  • @cherylcampbell9096
    @cherylcampbell9096 2 місяці тому

    Backup camara - does it have the technology to record what she hit on the night she dropped John off? I am assuming not?

  • @Gle7799
    @Gle7799 7 місяців тому +2

    Why did she say John was her husband???????

    • @univerzaltruth6481
      @univerzaltruth6481 7 місяців тому

      Not unusual. I've only heard others refer to J.O. as her husband. It's not uncommon and not a factor.

    • @theanchorandcrown1061
      @theanchorandcrown1061 7 місяців тому +1

      And you aren't family and can't see him at the hospital so she says husband to try and get to see him

    • @justaguy259
      @justaguy259 7 місяців тому +1

      My GF hates the term BF/GF we often interchange spouse/partner/ husband/wife depending on the situation. This didn't surprise me to hear that. (we have been in a relationship for 15 yrs and we don't believe in marriage but society can be bull headed to that so titles make sense to change based on the situation)

  • @prmpatti
    @prmpatti 7 місяців тому +6

    KATIE LIED.

  • @Darcey-t4s
    @Darcey-t4s 7 місяців тому +2

    Why are these mfs afraid of Procter and Brian Albert? Why?

  • @PsychNurseExplains
    @PsychNurseExplains 8 місяців тому +4

    Karen has MS? Anymore info?
    Pea in cup 0.8 BAL 8 hours after last drink.
    MS and alcohol two generally don’t mix, especially driving.

    • @karliann1
      @karliann1 7 місяців тому +2

      Ms brain tumor and gastric issues and she only has a partial colon

    • @karliann1
      @karliann1 7 місяців тому

      P.s and she's had multiple surgeries

    • @AttorneyDeborah
      @AttorneyDeborah 7 місяців тому +1

      That is not true. People with MS can generally drink normally!

    • @kristenpino4635
      @kristenpino4635 7 місяців тому +2

      All of the other people drove home after partying all day and night and they are all cops.

    • @PsychNurseExplains
      @PsychNurseExplains 7 місяців тому +2

      @@karliann1 pooooor Prognosis! Best Treatment Lfe in Jail

  • @seansullivan3922
    @seansullivan3922 7 місяців тому +1

    She certainly tried to save his life. Knowing Caitlin Albert doesn’t make her an unreliable first-responder. It just makes her an unreliable witness.

  • @Rmwmtjay1878
    @Rmwmtjay1878 7 місяців тому +1

    That girl changed her story two or three times being on the stand that has the nerve to say she's consistent this woman's life is on the line and I feel like every person has gotten on that stand the defense has to tear apart that would be embarrassed if I was the prosecutor

  • @MValleysMostWanted91
    @MValleysMostWanted91 7 місяців тому

    Kinda pathetic , shows theres alot of people out there that have nothing to do with their lives.

  • @Rmwmtjay1878
    @Rmwmtjay1878 7 місяців тому

    And not for nothing my boyfriend died three months before John I also said the same thing and got involuntarily committed it's your first reaction that you don't want to be here when somebody loves so much it's gone nowadays are you for real everybody calls their husband or boyfriend or husband or girlfriend away if it's just the way that goes the prosecution has nothing so they drew on these stupid things

    • @nicci337
      @nicci337 7 місяців тому

      of course totally normal and its awful that they have exploited it like this

  • @jay-el-bee
    @jay-el-bee 7 місяців тому +2

    The attorney trying to admit those photos should've been better prepared. He never once said that the photos were from Mclaughlin's own Facebook account. Did she herself post them? Were they taken from someone else's social media account?
    Don't social media posts display dates and other info as to where/ when/ who posted the photo?
    I'm not saying Mclaughlin was or wasn't being truthful; only that the attorney should have done more.

    • @Patsanford220
      @Patsanford220 7 місяців тому

      He wouldn’t have even used them if she’d just said yes, I’m friends with Caitlin but I was on the job and focused on my work. Instead, she squirmed and acted snide and vague which only made her look worse. That’s why Jackson wanted to bring the photos out - lying on the stand is perjury and he was using the photos to impeach her testimony.
      If she had just owned up to being friends, she would have been the state’s strongest witness. Instead, she’s now their worst.

  • @justaguy259
    @justaguy259 7 місяців тому +3

    I thought Katie Mclaughlin was going to be the best witness yet, turns out I feel stronger about this cover up now. I know how close nit communities work when everyone knows everyone and try to protect each other and cover for each other.

  • @Hudini-g7
    @Hudini-g7 7 місяців тому +1

    Respectfully I think your testimony is multiple counts of perjury. News photos have you on vacation with multiple time over the years with the Albert family.

  • @nicci337
    @nicci337 7 місяців тому

    awful commentary it was 6 years ago, someone you have your arm around in a hot tub is a lot more than an acquittance. obviously

  • @MValleysMostWanted91
    @MValleysMostWanted91 7 місяців тому

    Yo cannot look at a different vehicle? Can someone explain?

  • @SALJ1468
    @SALJ1468 7 місяців тому

    Why wouldn’t they use the exact Lexus? The tail light’s are in a different location on the smaller Lexus. She drove the larger Lexus?

  • @Anna-ww4pv
    @Anna-ww4pv 7 місяців тому +3

    I don’t know any of these people. Outside looking in, Katie M trying to be clever with words friend and acquaintance made me think why is trying so hard to keep that clear? Of course this case is so odd, and I’m sure everyone is watching their words as lawyers can twist them.

  • @RIIrishgal69
    @RIIrishgal69 7 місяців тому +5

    Sue O’Connell must be friends with them and Jen McCabe got her to 😂😂. Yes we do remember everything

  • @jrdjr444
    @jrdjr444 7 місяців тому +2

    How about a site visit inside albert home where he was killed.

  • @Rmwmtjay1878
    @Rmwmtjay1878 7 місяців тому

    I really think her tail light got destroyed at the bar where they were all at they did not notice got in the car went to that house he got out he was set up and then she went home and slept for a few hours came back and he was dead already does scratches on your car look like somebody scratch them with a key or a knife or something that's not from hitting John I do feel bad for John's mother she lost two children but Karen's lights on the line too

  • @hectornegron9155
    @hectornegron9155 7 місяців тому

    Following from Puerto Rico.

  • @davidking6986
    @davidking6986 7 місяців тому +3

    Cant wait until the civil suit and the look on Karen's face in jail when all her assets are taken to pay for her crime

    • @josiemiller6524
      @josiemiller6524 7 місяців тому

      You’re delusional.

    • @kristenpino4635
      @kristenpino4635 7 місяців тому +1

      Wow, a guilty woman before you have heard ANY evidence at all!

    • @yogabee2222
      @yogabee2222 7 місяців тому +1

      Well she did admit to hitting him and she's on trial for it so ..

  • @adk1709
    @adk1709 7 місяців тому

    all of those photos of Katie McLaughlin and Caitlin Albert, man Katie's a liar

  • @TeresaAnnAskew
    @TeresaAnnAskew 7 місяців тому

    Karen Read is innocent 🙏🏻🩷🩷🩷🩷

  • @baggszilla
    @baggszilla 7 місяців тому

    This shouldn't even be going on with how much the Feds know about this case! I'm just waiting for them to come in and throw it all out!

  • @skiesthelimit6866
    @skiesthelimit6866 7 місяців тому +15

    that girl is a big lier,,, big cover up

  • @nobodysfool2750
    @nobodysfool2750 7 місяців тому

    Good question, why did the paramedics return? This is highly unusual imo

    • @laurac56
      @laurac56 7 місяців тому +1

      Didn’t a different set of paramedics go to the scene because the police called in a section 12?

    • @nobodysfool2750
      @nobodysfool2750 7 місяців тому

      @laurac56 yes on the police,not sure which paramedics, I need to start taking notes 😂

  • @juanacastillo7154
    @juanacastillo7154 8 місяців тому +6

    Guilty as Charged. ⚖️👍💯

    • @karliann1
      @karliann1 7 місяців тому +7

      Sure Marta. Smh😂

    • @pistolpete8231
      @pistolpete8231 7 місяців тому +12

      Jennifer mccabe...be careful before you're subpoena'd

    • @josiemiller6524
      @josiemiller6524 7 місяців тому +4

      Why?? Based on what evidence?

    • @kristenpino4635
      @kristenpino4635 7 місяців тому +3

      You haven't even heard any evidence! 😂

    • @juanacastillo7154
      @juanacastillo7154 7 місяців тому +1

      i heard enough⚖️ all of you with your Free Willi boards 😅 sorry Karen.

  • @lonewolflooney612
    @lonewolflooney612 7 місяців тому

    🐢🐢🐢🐢🐢🤘🐢🤘🐢🐢🐢🐢🐢🐢🐢🐢