Something was going on Karen called him 18 times in a very short period of time, he told her to stop calling he wasn't going to answer, sounds like they may have been arguing about something
@slim7435 she was looking for his phone. Which was under him outside when they dragged him out. His phone couldn't be inside after all. She had the gall to say she butt dialed him. Repeatedly
Because of the judge being biased, i dont think karen is getting a fair trial!.. This judge needs to be admonished for blatantly supressing the defense in presenting their case!. Ive never seen anything like this before. Why is she allowing the attys to object without stating their reason?..the state objects and she sustains it without knowing the reason for the objection!.. Unbelievable..😮
@@juanacastillo7154 I believe while on vacation in Aruba while his girlfriend was watching his kids he was making out with someone else in the friend group. He seemed to have sketch morals while drunk.
The prosecution is not bringing any evidence to this trial but just reiterating who was at the bar. Get to the evidence and stop wasting everyone’s time. I believe that there was a fight which involved Brian Albert, Brian Higgins and the dog. Possibly Collin since he had a black eye. Karen had no involvement.
Finally, someone speaks truthfully. This lady has nothing to lose by being honest. I don't know what happened that night, but I doubt they have yet to find the truth. I believe the dog was involved in some way. I don't know how else some of his injuries can be explained.
I write this a month after you. You were right!! The dog was involved. Interesting to see your comment as we wait for the verdict which will come at any moment.
Oh my goodness... When the attorney witness was asked about Karen praising John a lot that night, prosecution objected and bev agreed to not let that in, although fortunately the jury still got to hear it...... This judge has tried to tie both hands behind the defense in so many aspects during this trial, I hope the jury sees that and I also hope that this judge faces some kind of consequences for her outrageous biased behavior!!!
If the jury convicts Karen read she will get a appeal, all defendants get a appeal after there trial and if there was a problem they can get a new trial
The husband and wife that were called are a perfect example of how you should act and interact during a trial. Not like the Albert’s, McCabes, Proctor, and any other people related to them have acted. You see the stark differences in who is trying way to hard to tell their “story” which in my experience shows difficulty in keeping facts straight as well as really being dishonest. Everyone that really knows John and Karen know that they had their ups and downs but they also loved each other just as hard and sometimes we get to a place where we question our futures tog there because we don’t value ourselves and don’t feel like we deserve happiness. Hence the angry texts. Which I have sent texts exactly identical to hers and then some during periods of anger, frustration, not feeling valued enough or got into my own head. But people that know them also see the side of them that is loving and happy. We all have struggles and sending angry texts does not make someone a killer or prove they intended to do any harm to anyone.
I hope the defense attorneys see my comment. I would focus on the fact that everyone knew that John didn’t like shoes worn in his home. They all knew to take their shoes off at John’s house before entering. Jenn and Karrie both said it. The fact they only found 1 of John’s shoes on him points to the fact that he went in the house. He would have took his shoes off at the door. I think he went to leave and put his shoes on and was attacked and only got one shoe on .
People hit by cars also often lose their shoes due to centrifugal force. Doesn’t explain why one shoe missing however, I’m waiting for forensics and real evidence of this case to play out.
He didn't love her had broken up with her wanted to date others. She was angry he rejected her she wasn't having it. Hell hath no fury like a woman scorned. Guilty as charged.
They were playing around! Jackson trying to fool jury! If witness says he did not see any fights, judge should not allow jackson to continue same questioning further
I’m glad SOMEBODY said it!!! I have a drink or two almost every night, and these people seem like they’re partying pretty hard for grown adults with children…..not to mention, I haven’t heard ONE person during this trial reference calling a cab or ride share- so not only a community of drunks; but a community of DRUNK DRIVERS!!!! Irresponsible and gross. And this is what happens!!!!
Police officers are well known to be our worst citizens: fact. They have higher rates of divorce, they have documented cases of domestic abuse higher than ANY other occupational group (how many aren’t documented?), they are also the highest occupational group to have documented alcohol and prescription drug issues (how many aren’t documented), they generally think they are privelaged to break laws, they have a them against us mentality (Thin Blue Line), they cover for their own (but not John- he evidently stood up for something), they are less educated than many groups and favor immature machismo bs over intelligence. Not the type of people one can trust, definitely.
Ok so the prosecution can ask who won the basketball game but the defense can't ask if Karen hosted a birthday party for John's neice without an object and sidebar??? They have tried to paint her as a jealous witch who hated the kids? Aunt Bev strikes again
Holy moly this Judge calls more sidebars that any judge I have ever watched. I think she wants to be the lawyer in this trial. She cannot keep her hands out of it !!!! Control, control !!!
She is having to train this ridiculous defense lawyer "on the job!" He is rude, snide and way out of line. In order for this to be a conspiracy it would have to include 2 police departments, fire fighters, emt's and the judge...come on . She's guilty & loving every minute of this support she's getting. A narcissist can not lose, or everyone will pay.
She’s telling the truth and that will always help Karen bc she didn’t kill him, though the other witnesses have been blatantly lying which is also helping her lol
I’ve been wondering about that. Could there have been a case being worked by canton police in where they were investigating a crime involving another officer?
I’ve been saying this all along. The FBI is investigating the McCabe Thin Blue Line gang for something else and may have even had inside information or even an undercover agent who stumbled upon incriminating evidence which put them in a bind. They couldn’t blow their cover but they DID pay for expert witnesses for Karen! This won’t come to fruition for three weeks into this trial after this particular day (I’m re-watching).
I wonder if that other man who was after Karen was jealous and punched him, in the basement, then set the dog on him. He was out cold & badly hurt and they carried him outside and dumped him in the snow by the road and then everyone collaborated to get their stories straight including trying to blame Karen?? Just a guess.
Why do we need to know if this dad came in a separate car from his wife ? Also, some of the questions for the bartender were time wasters. Example, when there is an event are the tables moved back afterward ? Was there a band ? Huh
Looked like John was looking at his phone as he was walking to the exit of the bar. I wonder if Karen texted John to “hurry come rescue me” because she didn’t want to go with Jen.
How sad for Karen and the O'Keefe family watching that video. Karen looks as though she is reliving that night and thinking that within a few hours John would be deceased..😢
Shows officer O'Keeffe was a nice and very generous person but also a way of letting the jury see that the witnesses called by the prosecution have no credible evidence indication that Karen Read killed her boyfriend.
Imo he was trying to look tough & cool, desperately trying to get Karens attention. Trying to casually get close to her, praying she would look at him.
I had not considered the responsibility of the place where okeefe drank that he may have been over served and this could have contributed to his impairment later on.
It just amazes me how much Karen shared with a total stranger about John and how proud she was of him, but wished his family would spend a little bit more time helping out with the kids. For Karen not knowing her it’s just a little bit planned as far as conversation goes on the same evening John passed away.
His friends seemed like good people - especially compared to the prosection witnesses who all have ego/scarey vibes, which makes me think by association he probably was too
I’m about to make what will appear to be a controversial statement. I feel bad for Lally. Here’s a guy who does not make the decision regarding what cases he prosecutes…his boss, the DA does…he merely does as he is told and since he has a wife and kids to support and a mortgage to pay he does what he is told….all he can do when trying a case he does not believe in is to present himself as some lethargic, apathetic individual who has no passion for the case in order to send inferential or subliminal statements to the jury about his true feelings about the case while at the same time avoid getting fired. He’s probably trying the case alone to shield others in the DA’s office from the untenable position he is in.
Might be John Okeef knew about something involving Higgins and Albert and John being invited over to Albert's 34 Fairview home could have been a ploy to intentionally take him "out".
Something is going on here, that's for sure! Otherwise, why all of the lies & the investigation not done properly as in every other case?! There is definitely something that isn't right here & I don't see how everyone can't see that. For Petes sake, this judge is so blatantly biased that it's disgusting!
haroldstork, you seem quite obsessed with Karen. Very obvious. Mr. McCabe was the one who found things funny. Maybe you should go back to the beginning and watch it again.
Jennifer McAlbert testified she said to Karen...you come with me...outside and only because John was inside. This witness testified McCabe said inside to Karen to go with her
From a person who lives in the area. My offense is the cheering crowd that is evolved in a disturbing way ! The MEDIA attention focused on the living . An officer is deceased. His family and loved ones take the back seat to a girlfriend who has a disturbing presence in this case. RIP officer prayers that this trial focused .
the victims at this court are John and his family . 🙏 karen is not a victim , she has benn arrested for driven drunk and leaving the scene after she hit him with her car.
Can you even imagine what Karen has gone through 😥 She lost the love of her life and had to go through medical issues herself😭😭 what is going on with the Law and the liars of the Alberts🤮
After the inept of collection of evidence ,there's zero proof his clothes that proctor held onto were even stabbed, it's so easy to lie when the chain of command was compromised.
Whatever he saw as 'lovey dovey' with john & karen, it sure changed to 180 degrees when she left him numerous voicemails cursing him out& how she hated him & he was an f..pervert' after she dropped him off @ 34 fairview only an hr later!😮😮
I agree. The whole cover-up story is ridiculous imo. How many people would have to be in on this “conspiracy “??? She was drunk, she shouldn’t have been driving. She couldn’t even remember where se went after the Waterfall?? And who gets up before 5am, immediately freaking out that he did not come home. He could have crashed on someone’s couch!
I think that’s proof enough Karen didn’t hit him. John did not wear shoes in his house. Karrie and Jenn both testified. I think he took of his shoes to enter the Albert’s home and was there and at some point and went to leave and while putting his shoes on something went down and that’s why he is only found in one shoe.
I think the judge has been fair, but gets annoyed easily and I don’t blame her. She gives the defense and the prosecution the same treatment. I don’t know what the “aunt bev” is about? I feel truly bad for Karen, losing her boyfriend, her friends, the kids etc and then to be lied about and slandered. Jesus Christ. The prosecutions witnesses are filthy dirty.
Play fighting can turn serious in that sort of crowd. But I honestly think they are missing the mark on the bar play fighting, It is juvenile but I honestly think they are making to much of it.
The witness .that said 100 percent she killed her boyfriend she said quote un quote I hit him I hit him So I do not know what to believe at this point .I am confused
If that’s the case how did so many people including the snow plow driver not see a body laying there all night? There were multiple people waking out of that house and nobody saw a dark colored body laying on the white snow?
The defense questioning the play fighting in the bar as if it was some sort if precursor to Brian Alberts "anger or being a fighter" shows just how unhinged Karen Read is. Its such a lame attempt at deflection and honestly has the opposite effect the defense wants. Freak
@@keli449 so because cops fuck up a crime scene so then John o keefe doesnt deserve justice …stop it ..imagine it was ur brother or father lying in the snow dead .karen did it and she’s making it worse by dragging more innocent people into it ..she was wrong ..I don’t wish her bad .she ruined her future I wish her peace and redemption.
Its hard to believe all of these poor people just trying to live their lives ate being dragged into this ridiculous narrative by Karen Read when she alone could have fessed up and taken responsibility for her careless actions.
Were John and karen fighting? "No in fact quite the opposite they were affectionate" 😂❤ and this is a prosecution witness
Something was going on Karen called him 18 times in a very short period of time, he told her to stop calling he wasn't going to answer, sounds like they may have been arguing about something
@slim7435 she was looking for his phone. Which was under him outside when they dragged him out. His phone couldn't be inside after all. She had the gall to say she butt dialed him. Repeatedly
@@slim7435 that wasn’t the same day…..
🤦🏽♀️🤦🏽♀️omg, if you watch this entire trial. Then how are you mixing up the witnesses stories with who did the butt dial 😂 lord help y'all. SMH
Because of the judge being biased, i dont think karen is getting a fair trial!..
This judge needs to be admonished for blatantly supressing the defense in presenting their case!.
Ive never seen anything like this before.
Why is she allowing the attys to object without stating their reason?..the state objects and she sustains it without knowing the reason for the objection!..
Unbelievable..😮
The Albert children call the judge “Auntie Bev” & refused to recuse herself. If that answers any of your questions.
@Widow2B
If she's related to ppl testifying, isn't that a conflict of interest?
He's not telling the truth Mr not having a memory between the two men sparring!!!!
The judge is completely fine she’s a no nonsense type of judge that she don’t put up with nothing
Karen read is getting a fair trial
Sounds like the victim was an awesome guy. Regardless how the evidence plays out, it's an awful tragedy.
Yes, taking care of two children. Very sad.
🙏❣️🙏
Thats what happens when you choose the wrong partner.
john was an awseome man,,,, so kind
@@juanacastillo7154 I believe while on vacation in Aruba while his girlfriend was watching his kids he was making out with someone else in the friend group. He seemed to have sketch morals while drunk.
This couple (attorney and pharmacist) are so classy They don’t fit the rest of the crowd
The husbond and wife witnesses here are worth listening to. Compare them to most of the other witnesses ....wow!
I said that too!
I never met so many liars in my life
Agreed
You only need to witness Karen. 9 different stories lol.
The prosecution is not bringing any evidence to this trial but just reiterating who was at the bar. Get to the evidence and stop wasting everyone’s time.
I believe that there was a fight which involved Brian Albert, Brian Higgins and the dog. Possibly Collin since he had a black eye.
Karen had no involvement.
Finally, someone speaks truthfully. This lady has nothing to lose by being honest. I don't know what happened that night, but I doubt they have yet to find the truth. I believe the dog was involved in some way. I don't know how else some of his injuries can be explained.
I write this a month after you. You were right!! The dog was involved. Interesting to see your comment as we wait for the verdict which will come at any moment.
Oh my goodness... When the attorney witness was asked about Karen praising John a lot that night, prosecution objected and bev agreed to not let that in, although fortunately the jury still got to hear it...... This judge has tried to tie both hands behind the defense in so many aspects during this trial, I hope the jury sees that and I also hope that this judge faces some kind of consequences for her outrageous biased behavior!!!
If the jury convicts Karen read she will get a appeal, all defendants get a appeal after there trial and if there was a problem they can get a new trial
I love when they tell the jury to disregard the last comment!!!! SURE ….THEY WILL…. Lol
The husband and wife that were called are a perfect example of how you should act and interact during a trial. Not like the Albert’s, McCabes, Proctor, and any other people related to them have acted. You see the stark differences in who is trying way to hard to tell their “story” which in my experience shows difficulty in keeping facts straight as well as really being dishonest. Everyone that really knows John and Karen know that they had their ups and downs but they also loved each other just as hard and sometimes we get to a place where we question our futures tog there because we don’t value ourselves and don’t feel like we deserve happiness. Hence the angry texts. Which I have sent texts exactly identical to hers and then some during periods of anger, frustration, not feeling valued enough or got into my own head. But people that know them also see the side of them that is loving and happy. We all have struggles and sending angry texts does not make someone a killer or prove they intended to do any harm to anyone.
I hope the defense attorneys see my comment. I would focus on the fact that everyone knew that John didn’t like shoes worn in his home. They all knew to take their shoes off at John’s house before entering. Jenn and Karrie both said it. The fact they only found 1 of John’s shoes on him points to the fact that he went in the house. He would have took his shoes off at the door. I think he went to leave and put his shoes on and was attacked and only got one shoe on .
this so good! very good points.. maybe you can email the firm.
Good point 😊👍
People hit by cars also often lose their shoes due to centrifugal force. Doesn’t explain why one shoe missing however, I’m waiting for forensics and real evidence of this case to play out.
I think you’re right. 😢 that makes sense as he never answered Karen
@@Justicepending OH PLEASE!!! And they get beat up at the same ?!? Sit down!
I don’t think anyone is doing officer O’keefe any favors by prosecuting the person he loved who obviously did not do it!
He didn't love her had broken up with her wanted to date others. She was angry he rejected her she wasn't having it. Hell hath no fury like a woman scorned. Guilty as charged.
@@LyricSkye-p8vthere is zero proof of what you said, show us.
@@LyricSkye-p8vWRONG
@@LyricSkye-p8vand where is your evidence of this?
Prosecuting the murderer...yes it matters!!!
We can SEE clearly what Brian Higgins and Brian Albert were doing! So Sad that John OKeefe was dead soon after!
Higgins is the culprit in this
@debrashawcross 170 - Tell us what you clearly DID see please! :)
Exculpatory Evidence 💥
@@debrashawcross170 So you mean the 2 brians signaled a special interest in John?
They were playing around! Jackson trying to fool jury! If witness says he did not see any fights, judge should not allow jackson to continue same questioning further
Drunk community! Do they not have anything else to do except drink and go yo basketball games? Sounds like everbody drinks a LOT.
Boston has many watering holes, every block. My ex husband family all from Boston. All Alcoholics!
I’m glad SOMEBODY said it!!! I have a drink or two almost every night, and these people seem like they’re partying pretty hard for grown adults with children…..not to mention, I haven’t heard ONE person during this trial reference calling a cab or ride share- so not only a community of drunks; but a community of DRUNK DRIVERS!!!! Irresponsible and gross. And this is what happens!!!!
Police officers are well known to be our worst citizens: fact. They have higher rates of divorce, they have documented cases of domestic abuse higher than ANY other occupational group (how many aren’t documented?), they are also the highest occupational group to have documented alcohol and prescription drug issues (how many aren’t documented), they generally think they are privelaged to break laws, they have a them against us mentality (Thin Blue Line), they cover for their own (but not John- he evidently stood up for something), they are less educated than many groups and favor immature machismo bs over intelligence. Not the type of people one can trust, definitely.
Winters are hard and eternal in Boston. And they drive like maniacs. Just sayin.
And a community of liars.
Ok so the prosecution can ask who won the basketball game but the defense can't ask if Karen hosted a birthday party for John's neice without an object and sidebar??? They have tried to paint her as a jealous witch who hated the kids? Aunt Bev strikes again
If this judge is related to these people, how is she allowed to be on the case?
Not related but a God parent. Still might be a reason to recuse, as you suggest.
I’m still concerned at the amount of people drinking and driving. Cops and Attorneys…..I guess it’s ok for them but not others?
Holy moly this Judge calls more sidebars that any judge I have ever watched. I think she wants to be the lawyer in this trial. She cannot keep her hands out of it !!!! Control, control !!!
Yes she is very careful about things
I don't know what her agenda is- but it's not impressive.
She is and idiot and as CORRUPT has all the cops.
She is having to train this ridiculous defense lawyer "on the job!" He is rude, snide and way out of line. In order for this to be a conspiracy it would have to include 2 police departments, fire fighters, emt's and the judge...come on . She's guilty & loving every minute of this support she's getting. A narcissist can not lose, or everyone will pay.
@@praisingirl Spot on! 100% agree with your assessment.
The husband and wife seem like a sweet couple.
Who seem to be willing to answer questions 🤗
And they have good memories!
This is so sad a guy man is dead and his so called friends did it and covered it up
Do everyone there drink and drive with children? I’m so stunned
I’m confused.. are these the prosecutions witnesses?? Because they’re only aiding in Karen’s defense lol
That’s a great point
So far the prosecution witnesses have pretty much all pointed the finger at themselves, which is just hilarious😂😂😂
She’s telling the truth and that will always help Karen bc she didn’t kill him, though the other witnesses have been blatantly lying which is also helping her lol
@@astrialindah2773exactly 🤣
The entire trial ..has made Karen look innocent in which she is ❤
I think John knew something and the bullies weren't having it.
I’ve been wondering about that. Could there have been a case being worked by canton police in where they were investigating a crime involving another officer?
I’ve been saying this all along. The FBI is investigating the McCabe Thin Blue Line gang for something else and may have even had inside information or even an undercover agent who stumbled upon incriminating evidence which put them in a bind. They couldn’t blow their cover but they DID pay for expert witnesses for Karen! This won’t come to fruition for three weeks into this trial after this particular day (I’m re-watching).
I watched another video and apparently JOK made a complaint to the Canton police about Collin selling drugs in the neighborhood.
I wonder if that other man who was after Karen was jealous and punched him, in the basement, then set the dog on him. He was out cold & badly hurt and they carried him outside and dumped him in the snow by the road and then everyone collaborated to get their stories straight including trying to blame Karen?? Just a guess.
Why do we need to know if this dad came in a separate car from his wife ? Also, some of the questions for the bartender were time wasters. Example, when there is an event are the tables moved back afterward ? Was there a band ? Huh
Looked like John was looking at his phone as he was walking to the exit of the bar. I wonder if Karen texted John to “hurry come rescue me” because she didn’t want to go with Jen.
How sad for Karen and the O'Keefe family watching that video. Karen looks as though she is reliving that night and thinking that within a few hours John would be deceased..😢
What the hell does tipping have to do with anything?
Shows officer O'Keeffe was a nice and very generous person but also a way of letting the jury see that the witnesses called by the prosecution have no credible evidence indication that Karen Read killed her boyfriend.
Character reference
Lead in to the Intoxicated Question
It's called 'building momentum'
Cow tipping? Yes, there’s nothing to do all winter. The Celtics and cow tipping.
So Jen McCabe might have been aware of a little fight going to happen...?
That was my thought. She wanted Karen to go with her and couldn't stay out of the window waiting for him to get to the house.
Love this attorney witness
His wife seems very nice also.
Did someone put something in Karen’s drink before she left Waterfall?
This is a murder trial right ? Lots of laughs for a murder trial
Agreed..I don't think an attorney on the stand should be joking about brownie points.
Yes, 11 hours after a 2 foot dumpling of snow as well as hit hat.
It is wrong to place family of the victim right at the side of the defendant like here. Sure it raises emotions to both partys.
Not wrong bearing in mind it’s a very small little courthouse.
@@Bronte866 Still you can sit as you wish ...
Imo he was trying to look tough & cool, desperately trying to get Karens attention. Trying to casually get close to her, praying she would look at him.
Yes Higgins was
I had not considered the responsibility of the place where okeefe drank that he may have been over served and this could have contributed to his impairment later on.
Is that the victims family sitting practically in Karen’s lap?
Yes, and the brother just keeps staring her down
I believe the victims family is on the side of Karen.
Ridiculously close. The brother treats her terribly.
@@nataliedigiovanni4863no....not at all!
karen turned her back on them and refuses to tell the truth of what happened that night, she is evil.
It just amazes me how much Karen shared with a total stranger about John and how proud she was of him, but wished his family would spend a little bit more time helping out with the kids. For Karen not knowing her it’s just a little bit planned as far as conversation goes on the same evening John passed away.
This trial has turned from prosecuting karen to saving those involved in ojo death!.
Justice 4 Johnny !!
The people outside the court don’t know what happened at all omg
From medical examiner’s office San Francisco ca USA USA
hos long to die in cold. Jennifer McCabe Google search at 2 27 am.
TNX for telling us Mr. NIA LOL
Those 2 looking for a fight.
The judge is very different from other trials I’ve watched.
That was her girlfriend trying to.get her away from.john. your coming with me.
Karen Read is innocent💞
I have noticed Paul O always sits directly beside Karen. He does seem to stare at Karen.
Your parenoid
He's probably protecting his parents from having to sit next to her.
. I totally agree with you!
hos long to die in cold. Jennifer McCabe Google search at 2 27 am
Maybe he is trying to get her attention? Thry haven't been able to speak for how long now?
Are those cops gay?
Dumb question. That's what you got out of 2 hours of testimony?
His friends seemed like good people - especially compared to the prosection witnesses who all have ego/scarey vibes, which makes me think by association he probably was too
I’m about to make what will appear to be a controversial statement. I feel bad for Lally. Here’s a guy who does not make the decision regarding what cases he prosecutes…his boss, the DA does…he merely does as he is told and since he has a wife and kids to support and a mortgage to pay he does what he is told….all he can do when trying a case he does not believe in is to present himself as some lethargic, apathetic individual who has no passion for the case in order to send inferential or subliminal statements to the jury about his true feelings about the case while at the same time avoid getting fired. He’s probably trying the case alone to shield others in the DA’s office from the untenable position he is in.
Totally agree
Exposing the Corruption
On that note…I hope his conscious lets the innocent here win and the truth shine.
His heart is definitely not in it, doesn’t seem like a guy who is truly interested in finding out who beat John up and left him to die in the cold.
I kind of agree that some people are forced to do what they don’t believe but are afraid to come against the “the tall blue wall”.
Might be John Okeef knew about something involving Higgins and Albert and John being invited over to Albert's 34 Fairview home could have been a ploy to intentionally take him "out".
Something is going on here, that's for sure! Otherwise, why all of the lies & the investigation not done properly as in every other case?! There is definitely something that isn't right here & I don't see how everyone can't see that. For Petes sake, this judge is so blatantly biased that it's disgusting!
Exactly. And something about the psycho Albert son and drug dealing.
Omg
I dont think they wanted to kill him, maybe intimidate, and it went horribly wrong
@@weebigdefinitely!
So if Karen didn't hit him, what happened to to him?
Lying lawyer, he was afraid to say he saw them play fighting
haroldstork, you seem quite obsessed with Karen. Very obvious. Mr. McCabe was the one who found things funny. Maybe you should go back to the beginning and watch it again.
I know this is a very serious case but this guy looks too young to be a lawyer for 27 years and have a 16 & 18 year old daughter. Wow!
No you’re just used to looking at all the alcohol and drug abusers that are being called. These people are all hard drinkers that all look terrible.
He is around 50 so whats odd?
He’s Greek They age beautifully
@@ivannio8519 The point was he did not look like he was that old, are you daft?
@@whiteheart6827 Well I do understand :) But who cares about how old he looks? LOL
Attorney witness perfect example of how people normally are, when not connected to a case. People…please watch the difference.
What a waste of time for this lawyer.SMH
LALLY WHACKER SHOULDN'T HAVE TAKEN THIS CASE. DISGUSTING HE THOUGHT ALL THESE LIARS WOULD CONVICT KAREN
Jennifer McAlbert testified she said to Karen...you come with me...outside and only because John was inside. This witness testified McCabe said inside to Karen to go with her
Where’s the stenographer?
From a person who lives in the area. My offense is the cheering crowd that is evolved in a disturbing way ! The MEDIA attention focused on the living . An officer is deceased. His family and loved ones take the back seat to a girlfriend who has a disturbing presence in this case. RIP officer prayers that this trial focused .
❤❤❤🤲🏻🤲🏻🤲🏻 I was thinking the same thing his poor family his poor parents it’s a total shame 😢
Yes no one has any respect for them. Obviously very gullible people. Probably the same problem that their son had.
the victims at this court are John and his family . 🙏
karen is not a victim , she has benn arrested for driven drunk and leaving the scene after she hit him with her car.
She was charged with a hit and run??? I must have missed that "fact".🙄
@@juanacastillo7154And you know this how? Were you with Karen? Another cover up!!!!
Geez these people must half shares in these places they go b4 thr game With kids then After the game are these the only 2 places to eat in this town
tge male witness see rhey pkay fight and is laughing. And ..Higging sat next to Read. as he denied
Can't wait to hear from Jen McCabe, her sister and brother-in-law, Mr. And Mrs. Albert
Jen is gonna be the dealbreaker on this case if she is even one bit wobbly or evasive Karen walks
@@amygill5554I hope that doesn't happen!!!
@@amygill5554 Jen did not speak or act like an honest person when she was examinated ;)
@@ivannio8519 I found her to be honest and I think she didn’t let Jackson push her around so hats off to Jen.
What do the do if they get a witness that’s big! That witness stand is so small???????
Haaaa
Who does Karen hookup with at the table right before everyone leaves the front door?
Alli's boyfriend is lying because come to find out Ali went to the house and picked up colon and now tully is on the stand and he's lying too
Any topic to help this lady there is a sidebar
Can you even imagine what Karen has gone through 😥 She lost the love of her life and had to go through medical issues herself😭😭 what is going on with the Law and the liars of the Alberts🤮
They all seem like decent people it’s a real shame
Those 2 burly guys were kissing?
If they are real men or gay men , yjey might.
No doggy DNA
After the inept of collection of evidence ,there's zero proof his clothes that proctor held onto were even stabbed, it's so easy to lie when the chain of command was compromised.
OMG was it all planned!
Jen McCabe displaying verbal predatory behavior. Brian Higgins and Brian Albert were displaying physical predatory behavior. JO had eyes on them.
@@kerrybarrera3410 BINGO! Absolutely ;)
I've seen another video of John kicking (heel toe boxing style) standing at the Table as Higgins and Brian are walking out (J.F.K. YT Channel)
@@debrashawcross170 Seems as things were boiling up from both sides already at the bar. John had better gone home with Karen.
Whatever he saw as 'lovey dovey' with john & karen, it sure changed to 180 degrees when she left him numerous voicemails cursing him out& how she hated him & he was an f..pervert' after she dropped him off @ 34 fairview only an hr later!😮😮
It looks like John walks by himself to the left?
well that was a whole lot of nothing and a waste for the defense more money added on to the tab
Hear say him telling were they were coming from karen & Jonn
Karen read did it . She thinks everything is so so funny in Court
Finally common sense!❤
I agree. The whole cover-up story is ridiculous imo. How many people would have to be in on this “conspiracy “??? She was drunk, she shouldn’t have been driving. She couldn’t even remember where se went after the Waterfall?? And who gets up before 5am, immediately freaking out that he did not come home. He could have crashed on someone’s couch!
NOT a chance!!!
WAS JOHN'S OTHER SHOE FOUND?
I don’t believe so 😮
I think that’s proof enough Karen didn’t hit him. John did not wear shoes in his house. Karrie and Jenn both testified. I think he took of his shoes to enter the Albert’s home and was there and at some point and went to leave and while putting his shoes on something went down and that’s why he is only found in one shoe.
His shoe was found
I think the judge has been fair, but gets annoyed easily and I don’t blame her. She gives the defense and the prosecution the same treatment. I don’t know what the “aunt bev” is about? I feel truly bad for Karen, losing her boyfriend, her friends, the kids etc and then to be lied about and slandered. Jesus Christ. The prosecutions witnesses are filthy dirty.
What was the verdic
This case is still going on and will take several more weeks with the huge amount of possible witnesses !
Hopefully tomorrow we get the verdict.
Take a hike
Has this girl been in jail this whole time?
No she is out on bail
In terms of the bartender, I had never seen a witness so lively on the stand.
She looked as if she was enjoying it.😅
Probably happy to be on youtube video
@@jillgott6567 She just became a celebrity which means more customers, more drinks and beers served and more tips.
She was nervous, as I'm sure a lot of them are. Every1 shows it differently, and of course, folks have different personalities anyway.
She was one of the few with nothing to hide.
That can be a defense posture for some.
Play fighting can turn serious in that sort of crowd. But I honestly think they are missing the mark on the bar play fighting, It is juvenile but I honestly think they are making to much of it.
Looking back, this evidence was completely irrelevant. We know John and Karen were in a fight, listen to the voicemails.
The witness .that said 100 percent she killed her boyfriend she said quote un quote I hit him I hit him
So I do not know what to believe at this point .I am confused
It was a question. Did I hit him? Did I hit him?
If that’s the case how did so many people including the snow plow driver not see a body laying there all night? There were multiple people waking out of that house and nobody saw a dark colored body laying on the white snow?
Who is the woman sitting to the right of John’s brother?
I think one of them is Karens sister
His wife
I don't know. Are you?
Guilty
The defense questioning the play fighting in the bar as if it was some sort if precursor to Brian Alberts "anger or being a fighter" shows just how unhinged Karen Read is. Its such a lame attempt at deflection and honestly has the opposite effect the defense wants. Freak
Great. High School football. Daughter already coming off of an injury. Violent sport
Dear Lawyers, All women work. We don't all get paid. It's 2024, it's embarrassing that you don't seem to know this.
Does anyone think Karen Read is guilty?
Not me
Not me either
Alcahol makes you lubby duvy
Education is very important, especially reading, writing and spelling.
What??
I think you meant alcohol
Have you been drinking?😂😂😂😂
Drinking beers, than CLEAR LIQUID
Could have been water! Many ppl. Will have water in between drinks!
I don't have a dog in this fight. "I did it, I did it, I did it." is a confession. When the person accused confesses, it's a done deal.
According to Jenn McCabe, take that with a grain of salt FFS!
I think Karen is guilty if I had to guess however the case so far is very weak to convict her without reasonable doubt
No way. She loved him.
Where's the evidence??!!
@@jimmydee2171 I think circumstantial evidence is overwhelming..my opinion
Because you would be ok with the way evidence was collected and secured, put in brown grocery bags, open crime scene.?.
@@keli449 so because cops fuck up a crime scene so then John o keefe doesnt deserve justice …stop it ..imagine it was ur brother or father lying in the snow dead .karen did it and she’s making it worse by dragging more innocent people into it ..she was wrong ..I don’t wish her bad .she ruined her future I wish her peace and redemption.
is karen dating her attorney . she moves really fast, smiling and flirting in court.
They are fighting for her life 🙄 and both attorneys have rings on..
👍
Good grief no....
LOL jealous much??😂😂
@@ginapafitis1966 she has no boundaries. this attorneys are smart and she is a killer.
Did they find his missing shoe?
That attorney objects to everything.What's his problem
with no freaking grounds.
🦆👄s
Its hard to believe all of these poor people just trying to live their lives ate being dragged into this ridiculous narrative by Karen Read when she alone could have fessed up and taken responsibility for her careless actions.