Sanding Tips Wood Turning
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- Опубліковано 4 тра 2023
- Sanding is very important to get a good finish.
I show some of the reasons for getting a bad sanding job. Then I show how I get a great sanding job.
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Great demo Gary!
Most people skip over the sanding process
Thanks for sharing
Thanks Luie. Sanding has a bad rap. Some sanding can really be a pain but I see it as that final step to getting a good finish.
Thanks for watching,
Gary
This was a very enjoyable video. Thank you for sharing. I hope I see you on the next one
Thanks you very much. I hope to see you as well.
Thanks for watching,
Gary
Gary great tips and as a reminder to not be in a hurry. Thanks for sharing. Be well
Thank you Linda. I think you got the idea of the video. DO NOT RUSH IT! Some turnings can take hours and hours so why not spend enough time to get it as perfect as you can.
Thanks for watching,
Gary
Thanks for taking the time to explain & show us in detail your video how you sand a project - I know a lot times people say that sanding & to watch sanding isn’t any fun & they will continue their video after they are finished sanding but a number of us ( especially including myself) needed a video like yours 👍👍
Thank you Bill. It can be very time consuming to show all the sanding along with all the turning. That was the reason I did this and just concentrated on the sanding. Happy you found it helpful.
I think the main thing is when your sanding you are really close to the good stuff. Putting that finish on. Do not allow yourself to be rushed.
I enjoy most of the sanding task as you are actually getting the first part of the finish done. A nice smooth finish.
Take care,
Gary
Gary, I like the video! Great hints and always presented in a good format👍.
Thank you very much Skip!
Good lesson to learn...thanks, Gary!
Thank you Carol!
Thank you Gary! Great video - much needed. Hope that shoulder behaves. Don’t need surgery.
Thanks so much. It is hard for me to sit still and not do something but I am trying to do easy things for awhile.
Take care,
Gary
You have great patience when it comes to sanding Gary better than mine for sure but you have shown it pays to do it right thankyou for sharing l'll remember that
Thank you very much Ronnie.
To get a really good finish the sanding i very important.
Not everyones favorite.
I need to sand something this afternoon and not looking forward to it.
Going to be hard but needs to be done.
Gary
Great video Gary on how not to sand and then how to sand correctly.
Take care my friend.
Cheers, Huw
Thank you Huw...now if I can just remember LOL.
Take care,
Gary
Hi Gary
Thanks for the invaluable information on sanding.
Hope your shoulder get better soon.
Thank you Jim, it is better and I have been taking it easy. Just doing little things and catching up on some editing.
Thanks for watching,
Gary
Many, many of your videos show using our abrasive paste and polish, we thank you so much for all that Gary!!
Thanks Tom....it is the best I have used.
Great sanding tutorial Gary! 😎👍
Thanks so much Kimsey!
Nice video. Love the tips for us newbies.
Thank you Harvey!
Amazing video Gary thank you for the insight and information. Keep up the amazing work. 👽
Thank you very much. Happy you enjoyed the video and thanks for watching,
Gary
Great info Gary!
Thank you Laura and thanks for watching,
Gary
Good info Gary. Thanks for sharing 😊
Thanks so much Stuart!
It's all in the details!
Thanks Jim
Good informative video Gary, Good luck with your shoulder. All the best from Lincolnshire UK
Thank you very much Gary. Been acting up again today so must might have to make an appointment to have it looked at.
Gary
Another great video as always. I hope that the shoulder settles down.
Thanks Bob, it is getting along. It was pretty hot the other day and that felt good. Decided to rain again today.
Thanks for watching,
Gary
Great lesson Gary.
Thank you Jack and thanks for watching,
Gary
THANK u gary beautifuly exsplined.
Thank you Manjit!
Wowza! What a big difference it makes when you sand with many different grits. I never understood why you’d put the lathe in reverse when you are sanding. I know you didn’t do it in this demonstration, yet on most of your masterpieces you do. They come out so darn smooth looking that I want to touch them. I love the shiny finish, so I would want my bowl sanded with all the different grits.
Thanks for sharing your knowledge! You are awesome with any kind of wood!
Hop your shoulder gets to feeling better!!
Thank you very much Mary. When turning the gouge can lift the grain so sanding in reverse will sand if off easier. Plus it directs the dust toward my dust collecting opening. And it is more comfortable to sand on the upper side rather than under.
But if you do not have reverse you can still get it done.
Years ago I rewired a motor to run the lathe both ways. Long before we had lathes like we do today.
Thanks for your comment on my shoulder. I start PT this Friday.
Gary
Great video on the process of proper sanding. I learned a couple of things that I didn’t know about sanding.
Sorry to hear about your shoulder. Interrupted sleep is not good.
Take care.
Thank you Bob. Yeah it can be pain for sure.
Take care my friend,
Gary
A great tutorial. I always feel my turning has failed if I have to start sanding at less than 120 (plenty of times I've failed) but I like to let my tools do the talking. Good luck with the shoulders. I had great success with a good physiotherapist. Takes time, but better than steroid injections.
Thank you very much Sandy. Nothing beats a nice smooth cut. This was the worst wood in the world (it seems) for getting those smooth cuts. Some Western Maple which just does not cut all that well. But it is cheap and looks pretty good when finished.
Yeah I am not sure what they might want to do. When I hurt it the orthopedic surgeon said it might have been better if I had broke it instead of tearing something. But I think that was about 32 year ago. I will give it another week.
Thanks for watching,
Gary
Great advice on sanding Gary. I do the same as you, and, I'm not averse to going back a few grits and redoing a piece if I notice imperfections.
Thank you Les, I do not mind it so much. But once the finish is on I kick myself real hard then sand it away. But I do try and check it real well before any finish goes on.
Great tips! Thanks
Thank you Dianne!
Great info, Gary! I've been know to sand all the finish off a few times if I'm not happy with the sanding job. No mater how carefully you look, it can bite you.
Thanks Billy. Yes without a doubt some of those things just seem to hide. And they may not show up with the sealer. But most of the time they do. And sanding the sealer away is a common thing I do because I usually use 2 coats of sealer.
I assume you are back from your cruise...hope you had a great time.
Take care my friend.
Gary
Great video thanks.
Thank you and thanks for watching.
Gary, your instructions/comments are clear. Easily understandable. My only comment is the way you handle the pieces at the end of the video. You move the pieces too quickly. It is not possible to focus on individual places on the work piece as you are moving it. Please try to slow the movement down a bit. Thank you for sharing. Have a great day and stay safe.🙂🙂
Thank you Glen and I noticed that at the end myself. Felt like doing it over but time was not going to let me.
I will certainly make sure today when I wrap the one I am finishing. I was hoping the pictures would show enough to make up for it.
Thanks for pointing that out again. I do need reminded now and then.
Take care,
Gary
Holding that drill out there to sand didn't do your shoulder any good, buddy! I sure hope the warmer weather melts away your soreness, Gary.
Good tutorial on what to do and what not to do when sanding. It's a hard lesson most of us had to learn but, oh man, does it make a difference. I'm sure you helped many turners with your knowledge. Good job, my friend! 😃
Phil
Well sheesh now you tell me LOL. Ya know I did not give that much thought when I started the video. Just figured it would be easy compared to an out of round chunk of Black Locust.
The warm weather was great. Sat out in the backyard in a lawn chair with the son shining. Felt pretty good...or maybe it was the margarita!
I sure hope nobody sands as bad as the first disk. I might have overdone the point.
Take care my friend,
Gary
Good job Gary. I see too many videos with torn grain and tool marks in the finished product only because shortcuts were taken in the sanding process. You addressed it well. Thank you. Praying the shoulder gets better.
Thank you very much Doug. I think sanding is something nobody looks forward to and just wants to get it done and get the finish on.
But when you see how much better it will look then you start to watch the sanding. I really do not mind sanding all that much because I keep thinking all the good it is doing.
Thank you for the prayers. It is getting better the more I let it rest. But that is soooo hard to do.
Take care,
Gary
Gary, what you are also doing, by sanding only on the right side, with the lathe going forward and the drill going forward, is you are sanding against the grain. This is also what I do and it works very well. However, there are times when I go with the grain…which seems to help with the process as well. Thanks for all you do.
Exactly Martin and you have some excellent points. I actually cut out a section where I reversed the lathe.
I tried not to mention sanding with the lathe going the other way as not all have them and then they might think they can not get a good sanding job.
Thanks for watching,
Gary
Beautiful work and cleaning the dusty between send paper with Air ( use towel denatured A..
Thank you Gaetan. Sometimes I use DNA after it has been blown down real good. Other wise you can make a slurry that gets into the grain and is hard to get out.
Take care,
Gary
@ThePapa1947 yes you right use Air now
Great information, Gary! I’m sure a lot of new and not so new turners will get a lot out of this. Including me, to be honest. Thanks for taking the time to do this, my friend. Great video!
Take care,
…..Gord
Thank you Gord but I know for a fact your turnings are always top shelf when it comes to sanding and finishing.
Thanks for your kind words.
Gary
Thanks for the advice. My biggest problem is sanding and finishing. And working with popular, that are places that are difficult to smooth out because of the end grain. Right now I soak it with thin CA and sand and resand. My tools could possibly be sharper, but after I sharpen my bowl gouge, I usually go over with a honing card, which gets it really sharp. But still I need something more than just CA.
Thank you Harry. Sounds like wood might be the issue.
Thanks for watching.
Gary
All sanding operations leave scratches ... the trick is to make the scratches as small as possible so you don't see them ... this progression through the grits shows this process perfectly 👍
You are so right Barry.. Very simple when you think about it.
Thanks for watching,
Gary
Great informative video Gary . I too , have sanded off the finish because of scratch I didn't see . I don't think any of us really enjoy sanding but it is a very important step to take . Bummer you couldn't have the dust collector on . Cough , cough . lol . Hope you have a great day !
The mask did the trick. A small fan helps blow it away.
Hi again Gary. That was such an interesting post. I started at 40 grit today after parting off a glue block and finished at 320. ‘Turned’ out OK in the end. As always, thank you for sharing your expertise 🌞
Well thank you very much Ray. Wow 40 grit? But I am guessing there was a bit of stock to remove.
Thanks for watching,
Gary
Good video Gary on a subject that isn't covered or demonstrated too often. Good job ! 👍
Thanks so much. Yeah I have been asked a few times about it. And I have not seen much information either.
I think it can be thought of as more of a task and not part of the process to create something nice.
Just like putting finish on. You can slap a finish on a really nice turning and it just might not look as nice as you wanted it to.
Thanks for watching,
Gary
Sounds like Laryngitis. Enjoy your videos. Take care.
Not sure if your talking about my shoulder but it would not be laryngitis. But most likely some kind of gitis.
Hi Gary. I did like the video! If I had seen one like this a long time ago, I wouldn’t have so many fixes to do. Coincidentally I’m in the process of going back to a lot of my earlier bowls and sanding the finish off and refinishing properly. Such a difference! Another topic I would love to see you tackle is how to remount a finished bowl that does not have a tenon or mortise in order to do a refinish. I hope your shoulder injury clears up soon. Cheers, Rick
Thank you very much Rick. Sounds like your are having lots of fun . I say fun because you will be very happy with them.
So watch next Friday and you will see how I remount a bowl. Not really planned though LOL.
Shoulder is off and on with how it is acting. Mostly when I wake up.
Take care,
Gary
Gary, I tend to do basically the same as you, only I'll reverse the lathe and sand in the opposite direction with each grit. I find that the fibers will lay down going in the same direction all the time. It gives me a smoother finish. As always, thanks!
I sand in both direction as well but did not want to toss that out because not everyone has a lathe with reverse.
Many years ago I had a belt drive lathe with a 4 step pulley. It had a capacitor start motor so I wired in a DTDP switch so I could have reverse just for sanding reasons. You had to wait till you heard the capacitor click before it would go in reverse. Good thing because there were no lock screws for the face plate. I say face plate because we did not have these nice 4 jaw chucks back then.
Thanks for watching,
Gary
@@ThePapa1947had one of those old lathes . Used it till the motor went , had been planning on changing it over to a higher horse reversible motor when that time came . But when I started to price the change , all the stuff needed it was right up to the cost of a new lathe with all the features I wanted
That always seems to be the case. I wanted to get a VFD driven motor for my small metal lathe but ended up getting a free treadmill and used the motor and controller. The VFD system would have cost more than my metal lathe did.
Great video, Gary. The high spots (grains) on sand paper are problematic; particularly on cheaper papers and those that come from other countries. This is why when I use to do a lot of auto restorations, I would always stick with the good brands of sandpaper like 3M. This brand is very consistent in quality and I didn’t experience the big pieces of abrasive as I did on cheaper brands. The same would apply to finishing wood as you demonstrated very well.
A big rock on the abrasive will play havoc on finishing metal/wood and those scratches are magnified once paint/finish is applied. Going up to the next finer abrasive May take out those scratches. But it’s best to ease up on the pressure on the surface and let the paper do it intended job. Less is actually more in this instance.
Thanks John. These came from Woodturners Wonders and they are not cheap...in price anyway.
Take care,
Gary
Thank you Gary for sharing your work/Knowledge with us learned few things watching your video :):)
Hope your shoulder to be ok soon, and guess what my bloody back starting bothering me after target shooting with my pistol......what can I say ?? I am p.....d off
Take care and get well soon
Yiannis
Thank you very much Yiannis! Take care of the back my friend.
Gary
Thanks, Gary. Very informative video. It was nice that you talked about technique and speed in the sanding. The importance of grade progression and cleaning between the grades cannot be stressed enough. Sometimes, grain raising is also a good idea and can be accomplished by cleaning with denatured alcohol between the grades. Your finishes usually look exceptional so I know it was hard for you to do the "bad" example since good sanding is something you do naturally.
These types of videos are good from time-to-time because some of what you do out of habit many of us have not learned yet. Keep 'em coming!
Thank you very much. Years ago I used to always raise the grain with a damp cloth. Mostly on furniture I built.
I very seldom raise the grain on any turnings I do. Other than when I use a sanding sealer which raises the grain.
Take care,
Gary
Thank's Garry for this interesting video. 👍
Thank you very much Jean-Louis
Try the 3M Xtract Cubitron discs (3", 5", 6") They're amazing,
I will look into those disk Not sure I would have much use for a 6" disk and I did mention to blow the work off between grits.
👍
Thanks Sony!
Thanks for this Gary, another great video with great tips. I have been quite pleased with the results of the sanding that I've done on my turnings but you can always learn something. Thank you for making mention of the lathe RPM when sanding, it was good to hear that I was in the right ballpark for that. I am curious about the mandrel that you use the 2" sanding discs on. Is it a homemade or commercially available one? Occasionally I have trouble with the discs coming off the mandrel while sanding. Not sure if that means I am pushing too hard or if the velcro on the mandrel is wearing out.... I'd be interested to hear your thoughts on this. Excellent video again Gary and thanks very much, Hope that your shoulder gets feeling better soon. Take care, Ted
Thank you very much Ted. I am sure most people who have turned for very long have developed a good method of sanding and it sounds like you have.
I used a piece of 3/4' aluminum rod and turned one end to fit my drill and bored the other end so I could put the short arbor's in it.
I do have a metal lathe so that really helps. Matter of fact I made the shafts for all the other sanding mandrels I have. If I can I will make about anything.
So the heavier grits will pop off if you push too hard. It will also tear up the Velcro on the sanding pad making them useless.
We seem to want to push hard with the heavy grits but not only does the disk fly off but it does not sand as good.
Take care,
Gary
Thanks for the sanding video. I was wondering why you stop at 400 grit and not go any further like to 1000 grit. If it doesn’t change the final result I will be stopping at 400 also. Thanks Gary
Thank you Charles. I really do not think you can see the difference beyond 400 grit. Now I have done it just for the fun of it because finer grits have come in bundles of disk I have bought. But I never order anything past 400.
Wet sanding a finish I will use finer disk but they are sheets and paper meant for doing that.
Thanks for watching,
Gary
Hey Gary...would it help to take a couple swipes on a metal plate to breakdown a new disk before using it on wood...take care of that pickin arm😀...stay safe...press on 😎Joe
Thank you Joe and I am sure it would help. If doing a larger turning such as a bowl you will break them down pretty fast. Seems too fast as I am always buying new ones.
Yeah that is the pickin arm and I have been sitting here playing an old surf song. Remember Penetrations by the Ventures?
Take care,
Gary
Thank You Gary... I consider myself a terrible sander or sharpener. Watching you use that 80 grit with the random high spot grains that will deeply scratch and those scratches will follow throughout the process. I have taken my 80 grit pads to my small arbor press and just uniformly pressed and crushed the grains before using. I do this to equalize the heights of the ruff grits. Does that make a difference? I (for myself) feel it does. It seems to eliminate the random deep swirls. Again, I am terrible with finishing and anything I can do to quicken the process I seem to look for & this is not necessary for the other grits just the ruff grits 60, 80. I do seem to cut corners in my sanding process I guess because I do dislike it so much 😫(what a crybaby I am, ha). Great demonstrations Gary & much appreciated... TM
Thank you TM and I think what your are doing is fine. I think those little buggers wear down pretty fast if the turning is big enough. But on something small not so much.
I still remember in shop class we had to bring the sandpaper to the teacher before getting a new sheet. He had to make sure we actually used it enough. And I am sure we had not! LOL
Take care,
Gary
Very nice video! I noticed you sanded on the far side of the disk with the lathe running, I assume, in the forward mode. I've seen others run the lathe in reverse, and sand on the near side. Could you comment on why the direction of the lathe matters when sanding? Thank you!
When doing the inside of a bowl I tend to sand on the right side because I can reach it easier. On something flat it would not matter but I am just used to it. If you have a lathe with reverse then it is good to sand both directions .
On the out side I sand in reverse for a few reasons. My dust collector port is on the back side so it directs the dust toward it.
Plus I would rather have my hands or the sander above and not under the turning. Also when turning the grains will lift even if you do not see it. So turning in reverse with knock them down easier.
Hope that helps.
Gary
Thank you for sharing Gary, great information. I find i try to follow these steps for my segmented turnings. When completed and finished, they are smooth as glass. But after they are inside the home for a few days, I can feel the segments lines slightly. I assumed this is due to the wood expanding and contracting. I tried on a couple pieces to mount them back on the lathe and re-sand and finish again. So far the two I did are still smooth. Any way to not have to re-do a turning?
Thank you Dennis. With segments I try and let them sit for a few days before doing the last sanding. Sometimes it is just some woods that will do that.
Right above me on shelf is a segmented turning I did in Oct. 2020 and I just reached up and felt it. The joints are still as smooth as can be. The segments are Padauk.
Maybe put them in another room and they might go back to what they were but hard to do much.
The very large tumbling block turning I did had some slight issues. It was done with Polycrylic so I just took 400 grit and when over it by hand and it fixed it right up. So the shift was slight and it was just the finish you could feel the movement in.
Best of luck,
Gary
what is the diameter of the disk on which the sandpaper is glued
The sanding disk I use are 2 inches in diameter. They are velcro backed.
Thanks Gary. On another topic, after putting many hours on your Revo lathe, any maintenance issues so far? Those wanting to upgrade would like to know. Thanks
Thank you Jim. Well so far the lathe has been very nice to me. Other than a bolt that was loose and causing a squeak in the drive belt.
Someone did request and update on the lathe. Depending on my shoulder I may end up doing one soon.
Thanks for watching,
Gary
@@ThePapa1947 thanks, Gary and take care of that shoulder!