Cheap CCW Shootout - Taurus G2S vs Ruger EC9s
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- Опубліковано 9 лют 2025
- If you only have $200 bucks to buy a single stack 9mm, the Ruger EC9s and Taurus G2S might have caught your eye. In this episode of TFBTV, Hop shoots them both head to head to find out how low can you go. Which is better? Which is the better value? Let's find out!
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Rumors of your firing appear to have been greatly exaggerated.
Maybe he'd already made this vid... 😆
Hop's Law:
Hypothesis: People who like cheap guns are mentally defective.
Experiment: Mabs, ne'er do well from the TFBTV Discord, posts this comment: i.imgur.com/5vSbzbk.png
Data: This comment - by itself - leads to this string of 50+ outraged comments from Hop fans: i.imgur.com/gieh7I5.png
Observations:
1) One completely unsupported comment alluding to Hop being fired was accepted as truth by Hop fans and led to community anger among Hop fans;
2) This response had virtually no basis in reality;
3) Hop reviews cheap guns;
4) Hop fans watch his reviews because they like cheap guns;
5) Hop fans are clearly mentally defective, as proven by the experiment;
6) Ergo, we can extrapolate from the data that cheap gun enthusiasts (Hop fans) have brain damage.
Conclusion:
People who like cheap guns are full bore rarts.
This is for my Gucci gun gang only because only about seven percent of people who like Tauruses can read.
@@tfbtv this comment is so perfect
TFB TV I can reads your bad words. Pebbles who like Torus guns aren’t elaborate you meanie pants. Go punch a fish you jerk.
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@@tfbtv I hate Taurus's(Tauri?) and I can't read. So there.
Right when I saw “Cheap” in my notifications I knew hop was back
I got my du-rag on with my fitted sittin' on it
Now I'm ready to fuck the game up.
This video sealed the deal for my sisters 1st pistol.... EC9s - $284 out the door with 100 range & 50 Self defense rounds included.
how did it work out for you?
@@Amir_NassirI've got one. They're decent, definitely worth the cost.
THERE he is. allready started to miss ya.
I carry the EC9s and love it. Very accurate and reliable. Ergos are good and the thin profile and light weight make it comfortable for all day carry. The sights demand practice and trust while shooting as the sight picture is minimal. The trigger while good also needs to be used to gain familiarity and confidence. All of that said I find it to be a great value. Thanks for a great review.
I've had the Ec9s for 3 yrs, havent had a major problem with 2500rds. It was my first gun and a Christmas present to myself. In all honesty, it's not hard to disassemble, he's making sound like it's almost as hard as a Hi-point.
Aye, Ruger's only real fault is that they didn't make the takedown appear as idiotproof as it actually is. If you turn the hole facing down and jigger the slide a bit, the pin will literally fall right out. This is just like all the poor folks I see hacking at their Security-9 takedown pin with a flat blade screwdriver. If you just put some tension on the pin with your thumbnail and move the slide a bit until you find the correct position, out it comes. Granted I can _only_ do it with my thumbnail, but I'm not a large man so I believe most people should be able to do the same. They're not the easiest guns ever to take apart, but they're lightyears from difficult and tools are not at all necessary.
@@herbderbler1585 Yup, just turn it to the side and slightly pull the slide back and it'll literally fall out.
I bought G2S as my first Gun. It just wasn't the one for me. Ec9s (with 9 round mag) and a hogue grip is the perfect combination and it's like the best thing on the planet for guys like us with big fat hands. G2S wasn't as thin or light in weight and to top it off with more fuckery they also made it shorter . Everything about the G2S made me wanna sell it. Barely any aftermarket support for G2S. Ruger just did everything better than the Taurus. You can't easily pocket carry G2S without it leaving a bigger print meanwhile my ec9s(pocket holstered) looks like a wallet in my pocket. Ec9s also has a better trigger as he mentioned in the video. EC9S really Rocks in that price range for a sub compact. Hands down EC9S wins this one by a landslide for me.
Got myself a EC9s for a birthday present and I love it so far.
This guy is a tool. Had the EC9S for years and have never had any problems. Is it cheap? Yes. Is it reliable? VERY.
I've had guns that cost 3 times as much as the Ruger than stovepipe like a MFer. I'll take tried and true.
"The existence of California is not a good excuse to do anything." Classic.
I don't think you can get either of these or the LC9s in CA.
What the hell do people carry in ca?
@@someguy5444, blunt plastic sticks. . .
@@someguy5444 glock 19 gen 3, glock 26 gen 3, or s&w m&p shield 1.0 CA model, or one of those micro 1911 9mm or 380s, or kahrs.
The existence of CA is the reason for Glock to continue producing gen 3s if I’m not mistaken. Not to 💩 in your point
I have come to believe that many pistols just fit some people better than others. I like the EC9.
I have owned a Taurus PT111 G2 (essentially the same as the G2C) since 2015 and it has been 100% reliable since the day I bought it. It is an excellent value for home defense or CC.
Did yoy experience break in jams? My G2C is brand-new and tends to failure to feed.
@@chingatumadre6450 None. It has never jammed and I am well over 2000 rounds. A friend had a PT111 G2 that failed to feed Wolf steel case ammo, so he gave what was left to me and they worked fine in my gun, so it may be an individual gun thing. I have used 115 and 124 gr FMJ bullets for practice (all brass cased, except the few a friend gave me) and Federal 150gr HST "Micro" for carry ammo. No issues at all, from day one.
@@garyK.45ACP probably just a lemon but for the most part I haven't oiled it in a while it sits clean but dry, it will chamber a round better now after cocking the slide back and forth but for the most part it could need some oil.
@@chingatumadre6450 The only failure to feed that I have experienced was self induced. I squeezed the mag finger rest extension and it cause a miss feed.
@Von Fields I didn't count. Easily several thousand. My wife and I shoot twice a week and the Taurus goes along most of the time and gets 40-50 rounds through it most weeks. Sometimes more. Sometimes it skips a week. I have had it for 5 years. Most of the cartridges are handloads using a 122 gr. truncated cone cast lead bullet, cast from straight wheel weights. 4.2 gr. of Bullseye powder. I also use 115 gr. FMJ bulk ammo and run some of my chosen defense ammo through it every so often. Federal 150 gr. HST "micro" hollow points (my chosen defense ammo for all 9mm) I have several 9mm handguns I shoot regularly, the Taurus is one of them.
I love my EC9s! I just applied for my carry license, can't wait to carry and be able to defend myself in case of an emergency.
How long did it take to get it. Im waiting
@@brandystephens3112 90 days, but I have had it for a while now.
@@MrTjisbatman yea I think because of covid crap its going to take a while ive been waiting 2 months so far .....
@@MrTjisbatman do you mind me asking what state?
@Christopher Marlowe, is it really worth loosing your right to bear arms, right to vote, prison time, fines, etc?
Things could be a lot worse right now, despite what the media will tell you lol.
I have a grey frame Taurus G2s it has over 700 rounds through it and that includes about 70 rounds of mixed hollow points and I haven't had any issues. Some modifications I have installed are a keep tinkering trigger, blacked out rear U-notch sight with a fiber optic front sight, stainless steel guide rod, +1 magazine extensions from Lakeline LLC, and I bought 2 extra magazines. The best upgrades were definitely the sights and the trigger makes this budget gun so much better. Also I have the Olight PL-mini 2 Valkyrie and if fits the G2s perfect, and as far as a really good holster option Bradec holsters. If you want a light bearing holster On point holsters.
Your comments are much appreciated
The .45 guy 1776 I wonder if that company makes a holster for a Glock...
I’ll look into it.
@@mdredheadguy1979 yes they do
The .45 guy 1776 Thanks!
I have the ec9s and I really like it alot.. never shot a Taurus so I can't comment on them..the Ruger is really solid..it just spoke to me on how a every day gun should be.. personally I like the one magazine..it allows me to compare apples too apples when shooting different ammo..and the best part is I can really hit whatever I'm aiming at with this thing!
Something tells me hop has a wide variety of nail polish 💅 for his “sights”.
Kevin S 😂
Don’t be silly, lesbian truckers don’t wear nail polish.
Some of us like to be pretty when we shoot, quit complaining about it’s your ugly fingers 😜
Michael Srite cool
When I saw the tag line, my first thought was I hope Hop is doing this review. Not disappointed. Good info.
When it comes down to an inexpensive, dependable pistol that had a comfortable capacity the Taurus G2, G3 are my go to.
Yeah I love my Taurus PT111 and 740. They go bang every time after 5000 rounds each with no sign of giving up the ghost. For full sized "duty size" Taurus doesn't make anything that floats my boat so I stick with my Ruger SR40, Colt 70 and Sig 320. I've also got the Ruger EC9 but my wife liked it so of course I lost it.
It's like back in 1986 when cars where my passion. Bought a $400 Camaro and then put $5000 into the engine trans and rear end. Wasn't a new IROC, Mustang, Beemer, 300Z, Corvette that could touch it. Still had to listen to the bs until I shut them up on a back road. Those guys are probably the same ones talking shit about Taurus, Ruger, etc..
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Well thats nice but hes comparing single stacks
Best damn review I’ve seen. No bs talk, straight to the point.
I have and still own PT111 G2 and 709 because they are so reliable even with 3k rounds thru each. Great video on G2S. I have since moved on to a Sig 365 but the funny part of your video is that I also shoot great with my Nano and don't want to get rid of it. I did sell my Pico because it was too small and demanding.
My father in law has a Taurus and I recently got the EC9S. I like the Ruger over the Taurus, don’t know why but I do. I did paint my front sight with white nail polish and it works out damn well. Thanks for the info on the video.
EC9S shooting was definitely due to the long trigger travel. Gotta pull it to a point of tensity
Probably not the technical term, but that's the best way I can describe it. Going from my Glock 19 to my EC9S, I was incredibly sporadic with my spread on the latter. Pulling the trigger halfway and then the rest of the way greatly improved the spread
“The existence of California isn’t a good excuse to do anything”
Loved that line🤣🤣
Sadly, California is "coming to a theatre near you" with this administration....
Wow was at gun shop yesterday and looked at both of them. The ruger was on sale for 209.00 Taurus was 219.00 after checking out both I bought the Taurus- more rounds and can get larger mags.
James and Hop is what giving me Hop"e" for TFB TV 😊
Love you two, please make videos together😊
I've had my Ec9s for almost a year carrying everyday. My only real complaint is that I should have waited a few weeks because the place I got it from put the Lc9s on sale for the same price. Really only for the sights, but the machined in ones on the Ec9s aren't bad. The thumb safety isn't a big deal, it positively locks off, and I actually don't mind having it most of the time. Trigger feels great. Size is awesome for pocket carry (in a quality pocket holster!) which is what works best for me at the current time. Jeans and cargo shorts. Overall I've been really happy and I still think it's generally the best value single stack 9 out right now. Can't say I'm not eyeing a sig p365 at some point though lol, but I'm totally happy with the Ec9s.
I also got 1 been carrying for over a year and still a brand new. I use soft pocket holster from Amazon and got 4 original mags for my everyday carry. I like the thumb safety cause I keep the round in chamber and safety is a piece of mind.
Great gun. Have had mine a year. Very slim. Pretty accurate. Always goes bang. Only had an issue when i first bought it but once broken in 50 rounds its been golden since
Well this video got recommended to me exactly 1 year later and I saw my comment lol. I finally found a p365 in December...... wow who would have known about the insane times and gun rush that happened not long after this video was posted! Got enough rounds behind it that I started carrying it, and I absolutely love it. Definitely worth the price, but I still love my Ec9s and it's been relegated to backup duty.
Hop stating at the end he carries a Beretta Nano is like getting the green light to walk across a crosswalk & getting run over by a cement truck... Like, where the hell did that come from!?
I've owned an EC9S for a couple months now, and I just realized today that the slide stop lever is not really needed to release the slide with a loaded mag. If you rack it from the locked position, the stop (behind the lever) will fall on its own.
Just curious but your new to shooting?
I’m noticed that but I guess the lever services it’s purpose . If my memory serves me right he uses both methods with the Ruger .
Called "slingshot"
Carried the Ruger Ec9s for a few years. It gave me no hiccups and was a good shooter. I opted for the Ruger Max-9 for higher round count and better sights. On the Ec9s I simply put some white fingernail polish on the front sight. I always carried the dummy mag with me because of the disconnect. I’ve had worse trouble taking down guns. Never tried the Taurus. The Ruger would get a little dust on the slide but it was easy to clean off if you just don’t ignore it. Think carbon steel knives. I liked the trigger on the Ruger. I handled one of the Berreta Nanos and didn’t care for the feel of it in my hand nor did my wife.
You had me at, "has no magazine disconnect".
Thank FUCK he isn't gone, glad to see you're back Hop :D
This lady has a very husky voice.
Nice job.
Accurate and unbiased.
I love your nano "cordless hole puncher".
I agree with you Hop! And right now, the Beretta BU9 Nano is on sale at Sportsman's Warehouse for only $269.99! At that price, it is the definitive winner! I bought the Nano for my wife. I paid about $60 for it new, because that's what I took to the casino where I walked out with $700. At the store, we paid just under $350 for the black model with standard white dot contrast sights, after taxes. I bought the Ameriglo (made by and marked Trijicon at half the price) tritium night sights for about $60. Yes, it does have a long, garbage trigger pull, but once she and I got used to it, we had no problems consistently placing rounds into a 5 inch circle at 7 yards.
I'm a Ruger guy but I honestly was won over with Taurus pt111 g2. I thought it was going to be junk but after shooting 500 rds out of my dad's pistol that I borrowed I went and bought 2 of them lol. And I just bought the G3. 👍
I own both (and still haven't paid the price of a Glock). I've had zero issues with my G2C, but it's a little too big for IWB EDC in my opinion. It was hard to get it not to print, and it was uncomfortable trying to conceal it. The EC2S is easy to conceal and comfortable. Both are great IMO but the ruger is better to carry I think.
Yup and it's made of better metal or atleast more corrosion resistant than the taurus too, but you are right the taurus was much harder to conceal.
Had a Millennium G2 before I bought my G43 and G19. Put over 2500 rounds through that gun and had 1 light primer strike (was using reloaded ammo), and it wouldn’t properly load sometimes from the slide stop so I just went over the top. Fed it steel cased, hollow points and fmj. Never had a hiccup. Great gun!
For my EC9S, I removed the magazine safety, and painted the sights white with nail polish, it is made in the USA. The safety is made to be difficult to engage and easy to disengage. The small sights make carrying easily in my front pocket, in a small modified .380 holster. I buy "made in USA" if the product is not way over priced, being that Ruger is a superb weapon and company. Removing the mag safety is not necessary it is only a pain when the weapon is field strip, the trigger pull is the same.
Trigger on the EC9s is pretty nice. And hides just a little better than the G2s IMO.
Love my G2c. Have it Gucci'd with Lakeline upgrades and a trigger from Keep Tinkering.
What are some good aftermarket websites for g2c? Looking to drop like less than 150$ on upgrades thru out it's life cycle. Thanks
You're no nonsense. I like it. Side note: that bird in the background must really trust you.
Just found your channel. You are very well spoken and obviously take a lot of time preparing your videos. Great job.
I havent been following this channel long, but I can say this guy is freaking hysterical! By far the funniest reviewer on the channel.
without trying
I like all the reviews on the channel for the great info but the sarcasm kills me! Always makes my day!
Dude I love your reviews ...I wish you were the only one on TFBTv doing reviews. Keep ballin
Entertainment, you get 100 percent. Your video doesn't sound like an infomercial. I like that.
Oh yeah! Another budget blasta’s review. This is what keeps our relationship interesting TFBTV.
I say same @ ur mom
tip: when you use fluorescent paints, paint them over a white base, otherwise they won't be very vibrant at all. (Since fluor paints are quite translucent)
I love your reviews, they are alway informative, witty, and often humorous
Taurus is an extremely underrated firearm . I own a g3,g2c,spectrum and tcp380. All have been 100% reliable with any ammo if fed them .
Me too 👍
I have a hard time with fine movement tasks and your comment on easy of disassembly on the Ruger was very important. Thank you
Would love to see the battle of how low can you go, for under 250, under 300, and the kings of value under 400 dollars. Excellent review of these two pistols. And you punked us with your choice of the Nano. Nicely done. 😂
"and it sucks in reverse too" that may be the quote of the day.
Great to see you back Hop. Good review once again.
My pet theory involve you being locked in the hotel room at shot show and a gimp suit. Please don't hold that against me.
Edit: ooh, nice synth music at the end of the vid. Sounds analog.
Pablo668 James has needs.
You spelled fantasy wrong
I've been carrying the Ruger EC9s everyday for quite a while and I've not found any of the problems you noted.
1) The gun shoots so flat the extra pinky rest is not needed. I have no problem holding the gun with two fingers around the grip.
2) The safety is so hard to put on that checking it is not an issue. I have never had it accidentally come on while shooting it.
3) The sights are a non-issue, especially for me because I put a Crimson Trace laser red dot on it. I know this puts my gun out of the topic of this video, cheapness, but I chose this combination for one thing only: pocket carry.
4) I find disassembling and reassembling the gun to be one of the easiest, if not the easiest I have ever done! You don't need the plastic fake mag, just clear the chamber, pull the trigger and release the magazine. Then hold the gun by the ducktail, squeeze the slide back a hair, rattle the gun and the pin will fall out! No tools needed, not even a toothpick.
I think this combination is about as concealable as a single stack 9mm can get. First off its rounded edges blend well, but with the Crimson Trace on it, the print on my pocket is decidedly not gun-like. Every time I've shown it to my friends they are astonished to find out I even had a gun, let alone that it was in that pocket where they assumed I had a cell phone or a pack of cigarettes.
The 9rd spare magazine sits in a knife case on my belt. The gun is loaded with ultra light 40gr aluminum HP, 2000fps rounds and the spare mag has 150gr FMJ for deep cover penetration if needed.
Keep the faith.
I thought James sold you to Hi Point for a case of white claw
Bro look like Woody from Toy Story
Good shootout. The G2C/G2S would be my choice too.
I personally like thumb safety's. One of the reasons I choose a ruger security 9 was because it has a thumb safety and its not in the way at all
1911 guys like me ride safeties anyway so it has never bothered me period.
@@andreawhalen4142 exactly
Nice in depth review with plenty of sarcasm, which I always like! Thank you!
You are a knowledgeable and excellent reviewer. Ignore the foolish and adolescent comments from jealous wannabes.
Yup. Excellent well thought out reviews. All the info you need and not a bunch of hot air you don't. I can see why the viewers thoughts about this person enter their head by its stupid to voice it on the channel because who the hell cares about that stuff?
I used testers fluorescent yellow or green paint, plus glow in the dark puffy paint from the hobby and DIY jewelry arts and crafts section at Walmart. So it's high visibility, and with some light exposure the sights glow in the dark. I have video called " Walther CP 99 umarex" it shows what the paint on sights looks like.
I wish i had as much luck with my G2C. I read and watch all these reviews where the gun is just eating everything you throw at it with zero malfunctions and boasting about the reliability. . . i must have got the lemon. Does nothing but jam, stovepipes, fails to chamber rounds. . . just a slew of problems, and i really wanted to like the gun so much. My EC9 has given me zero issues, EVER! and my .40 S&W Shield has been problem free. Between the 3 of them, i like my Shield the most for every day carry.
"The existence of California isn't a good excuse to do anything." Best quote lol
Sweet review love seeing more info on the value guns.
@@f308gtb1977 hahaha you're right dam it.
Another great budget review! Either of these are great cheap ccw's that get the job done.
I didn’t know the LC9s Pro was discontinued. That’s my EDC. I’m hanging on to that model!
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The g2s trigger becomes much better more firm with more crisp break with a stainless steel striker guide assembly from lakeline, and it retains the very short reset
The odd feel of the trigger is the striker traveling over the hole in the plastic striker guide that was part of the lock out system of the 709
I own both the G2S, it fits my hand like a dream.
Only thing I don't like is the unfinished inners of the upper slide and barrel.
My Ruger EC9 has finished guts.
I just bought the rugar ec9s . Convinced my husband a p22 Phoenix wasn't enough bang
Smart move.
Always carry a 9mm.
@@jayslomine4280 I definitely do
I have the ruger. It broke one day at the range and while ruger repaired it for me at no personal cost, I’ve never trusted it for concealed since.
I’m poor, I like guns, ergo Hop is my idol. On the other hand I also like tactical short shorts so I like James too.
I owned a Ruger LC9S Pro. The firing pin broke after only about 600 rounds. I'll never own another carry pistol made by Ruger so long as I live.
A gun that's intended to protect someone's life has absolutely *ZERO* excuse for a firing pin breaking.
Owned both of these. Ruger > Taurus. Still have the Ruger. Taurus is long gone.
WRONG HOP! The Orange plastic magazine is not a ruse. It is supposed to be used when disassembling the gun. IT DEFEATS THE MAGAZINE DISCONNECT SAFETY SO YOU CAN RELEASE THE TRIGGER SEAR BY SNAPPING THE TRIGGER SO THE SLIDE CAN BE REMOVED. ALWAYS READ THE INSTRUCTION MANUAL PRIOR TO FILMING YOUR REVIEW!!! Regards from Phx, Az. Rob
He said that, but a little later in the video
A TRUE improvement will be for Taurus to switch all of their semiauto pistols over to using the TX-22 trigger system! LOOOOOVVVEE that trigger!!!
Cant stop the Hop.
As a man who can’t throw around $550 and buy any Glock ever, or generally follow James’ advice cause I’m broke, I for one Hop appreciate your greatly, I ended up actually buying a Smith and Wesson SD9VE, and your vid on the Sigma greatly influenced that.
I own both of this pistols and I love them. I've ran over 500 rounds thru them and haven't had any issues.
STEVEN KING I MISSED YOU!!! I subbed to tfb tv because of you
Great video! I dig your content. TFB needs to let you out more often, and in better weather.
Great review, and thank you for doing it. I’ve been waiting for someone to do this one!
The orange magazine is for disassembly since there is a magazine disconnect.
Love the humor Hop. Some great quotes in this one.
I'm always in the mood for fast, serious monotone.
Excellent review
I do disagree with your statement that the second strike capability is useless.
This feature is useful for dry fire practices, it eliminates the unnecessary racking of the slide.
Other than the trigger pull wouldn’t be the same as if you racked the slide.
Really awesome vid. I own the EC9S and have not had any issues, Don't know why but mine did arrive out the box with two mags.
I have a G3, great gun especially at the price. I was looking at the G3c for a carry, but still a bit big for me to conceal. I went with the Ruger a d love it. Its a bit cheap and not much to look at but for 259.00 gteat deal. Also i have large hands and actually catch my 3rd finger on the standard mag.
Great video! Thanks for getting right to the point and doing so in a smooth flow!
That last portion of the beretta was hilarious lol
Oh come on takedown on the Ruger, aside from the non captive pin, is super easy. If you rock the slide back and forth, I can get the pin to fall out without any tools. It's not great, but so many people say its such a pain, when it's just an inconvenience.
That location is really picturesque.
I have both guns but I gave my ec9 to my dad. The ruger is more reliable but with it only being a single stack it was hard for my big hands to grip. I prefer the g2c feels better in my hand and I'm more confident while shooting it.
Gotta be the very best review I have ever watched. Awesome. Speak truth. Love it.
For everyday carry ec9s is the winner. I got both. I keep g2c home for defense and ec9s my cc.
My EDC is the Walther PPS M2. Love it. Only problem is my kydex holster which sometimes pinches me when sitting. Think I will switch to leather later.
I like manual safety. I shiver at the thought of a chambered round without a safety.
We can't get either of those pistols here in California because of the Approved Handgun Roster. The only semi-auto Ruger pistol in California is the Ruger LCP 380-CA. The roster is why we're stuck with Gen 3 Glocks.
Haaaaaa
I own both, the Taurus may be a better buy for the money but both do the job and are fun to shoot!
I wonder who's doing the captions on the previews of these videos. When I scrolled this video, it said "Hey what's up guys. I'm hot for TFB TV..." Hahaha!
Hop is back! 😀 praise the Lord and Ventura the ammunition! 🥳
Don't sugar coat it tell us what you really think. I love this guys reviews.
Good review. I totally agree that a heavy trigger pull is good.
Judging by the G3c, the G3s will be worth waiting for. I can wait six months for a nitride finish and a third magazine.
I never thought I would say this...but the Taurus is the better gun. I have both and I like the Taurus and hate the Ruger. Also the Ruger honestly got rusty after one day of carry. The Shield only cost a little more so save a few more pennies and get one. If you can't do that, get the Taurus for sure. If you are like me and don't mind being up to your eyeballs in debt, get the Sig P365, it is a damn fine little gun.