How much of a risk does TikTok pose to national security? | Business Special

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  • Опубліковано 30 тра 2024
  • Countries in the west have chosen to ban the popular video app TikTok for government employees over fears the Chinese-owned app could be used for spying. Could the wildy popular app be banned outright? In this Business Special, telecommunication experts John Strand explains what China is trying to achieve with tech giants like Huawei and TikTok, why governments are right to be concerned, and how these bans pose problems for freedom of speech.
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КОМЕНТАРІ • 515

  • @redMaple_QC
    @redMaple_QC Рік тому +24

    Should government devices have ANY social media apps???

    • @muratititaniumbicycle1113
      @muratititaniumbicycle1113 Рік тому

      No but people install them, also remember contractors work for the government sometimes come w private company phones that are not directly attached to the government policies. So the contractor would come with the cell into the office. With TikTok running in the back. Also the greatest risk many people not safety minded are not cautious about what the information they share with other people.
      TikTok having access to everything on a users phone means that they can see the users email.
      And other info

    • @gregorywilson2124
      @gregorywilson2124 Рік тому

      Most companies have training about not using unsecured phones to do company business. People don't seem to understand the difference between companies operating in a democracy vs dictatorship.

    • @inemanja
      @inemanja Рік тому +1

      ​@@muratititaniumbicycle1113 there is literally zero deference in data concern with TikTok or Meta, Google, Apple, etc.
      The only difference is that we know for the fact, that google, meta and apple abused that data (thanks to Snowden), while we can only assume what's going on with TikTok.
      And while TikTok may know your email, it CAN NOT read your emails.
      You even need to explicitly allow it to see your contacts (or images) AFTER the installation. That's something that NO APP can do (at least on Android) without you specifically allow it.

    • @inemanja
      @inemanja Рік тому

      ​@@gregorywilson2124 Dictatorship vs democracy 🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️
      Have you lived on the Moon during 2010s? You don't know what NSA did in cooperation with companies in democracy?

    • @cenecasful
      @cenecasful Рік тому

      @@inemanjayou really don’t know what meta data is do you…

  • @MichaelUrocyon
    @MichaelUrocyon Рік тому +43

    Wasn't Facebook fined recently for not complying with GDPR? Aren't there multiple ongoing investigations into TikTok's compliance with GDPR?
    Banning an app doesn't seem unreasonable if the developers are going to flout the laws of your country.

    • @havencat9337
      @havencat9337 Рік тому +4

      exactly...this is FB and Google scared of some competition and push some lobby money

    • @frederikpedersen689
      @frederikpedersen689 Рік тому

      we don't want tiktok because its chinese. China is allied with putin

    • @DemPilafian
      @DemPilafian Рік тому +1

      Democracies and the companies in them are not perfect, but there are checks and balances on their power. The authoritarian CCP regime has no checks on its power. Ruler Xi is like most power obsessed dictators and will use whatever tools are available to him, including TikTok, to further his unchecked power.

    • @chilesauce7248
      @chilesauce7248 Рік тому +1

      Tiktok can even download zip files and execute binary without the device owners knowledge in addition to opening other apps, like banking apps etc.... FB doesn't do that! Also TT gets your contact list, and much more data than FB.

    • @lachlansydney2149
      @lachlansydney2149 Рік тому +1

      Tiktok is even banned in China.

  • @rafiusunday219
    @rafiusunday219 Рік тому +18

    TikTok is banned in China

    • @techcafe0
      @techcafe0 Рік тому

      The Chinese version of TikTok is called 'Douyin', which is supposedly more advanced than TikTok, and allows search by facial recognition, a serious privacy violation.

    • @rafiusunday219
      @rafiusunday219 Рік тому

      @@techcafe0 we are saying the same thing aren't we? Isn't TikTok banned in China? TikTok is not conducive for the CCP PRC so they named it and replaced it with its original Duoyin which can be seen on the logo. £vil CCP have no foundation in the west as all its pillars of espionage and theft are all doomed to fail.

    • @JigilJigil
      @JigilJigil Рік тому

      Yes it's a Chinese app made specifically to spy on foreign nations, CCP has 1000 more domestic ones for spying on it's own people.

    • @singleservice5373
      @singleservice5373 Рік тому

      Must ban on this planet

  • @yaxl
    @yaxl Рік тому +40

    Why would an adult use Tiktok is the real question

    • @emilierose
      @emilierose Рік тому +1

      😭😭

    • @cristinaximera9663
      @cristinaximera9663 Рік тому +4

      young at heart : D

    • @buravan1512
      @buravan1512 Рік тому

      It's more developed than any other social media platform.

    • @g_b_m
      @g_b_m Рік тому +1

      If the adult has mental illness

    • @Leshic2
      @Leshic2 Рік тому

      It's not the real question. The comment is half comedy.
      Graduating college to work in government, military, or corporate, at 21, 22, 23, yrs, you are essentially an adult.
      For the youth, it's used for social manipulation and rot western society.
      (why do you think China bans most all western web sites and software in China?)
      When on phones in corporate, government, military, it's espionage.
      The microphone in your phone can hear you well in other rooms.

  • @onek-productions
    @onek-productions Рік тому +36

    How ironic, TikTok itself is banned in CCP China, why is China so afraid of a app that is popular with young people? That is the question that baffles me.

    • @mariuszj3826
      @mariuszj3826 Рік тому

      China has a heavy handed policy on banning or outright outlawing parts of full western services if they don't tout the party line. It's a complete farce.

    • @yaucharles91
      @yaucharles91 Рік тому

      You are just spreading disinformation. Tiktok in China is call Douyin.

    • @protektor5026
      @protektor5026 Рік тому +8

      Yes,CCP don't want Chinese talk with foreigners by tik tok. And Chinese own douyin(another app of tik tok),there are more than 0.8billion Chinese use Chinese tik tok. You see,Chinese can not open google,youtube,even they can not open BBC news. So CCP don't want Chinese talk wih foreign by any app include tik tok.

    • @onek-productions
      @onek-productions Рік тому +6

      @@yaucharles91 I have both installed on my phone and the contents are completely different. One is heavily censored and another is less so. Douyin user can’t access content posted on TikTok and vice versa, now who is spreading disinformation?

    • @JigilJigil
      @JigilJigil Рік тому

      You wumaos are sometimes funny.

  • @mostlikely...
    @mostlikely... Рік тому +26

    TikTok is SPYWARE

    • @schlafcomandante5662
      @schlafcomandante5662 Рік тому +6

      Says who?
      Some Americans that want total monopoly on social medias in the world?

    • @balung
      @balung Рік тому +5

      ​@@schlafcomandante5662 Tik Tok is owned by Byte Dance who has ties to the CCP, and there server is in Beijing.

    • @happymelon7129
      @happymelon7129 Рік тому +1

      @@balung And FB Google TWe has ties to the C++i+++A 😅

    • @happymelon7129
      @happymelon7129 Рік тому

      @@schlafcomandante5662 So true.
      Trump : If Tik Tok sell to American company , then will be OK to use.
      Microsoft : I want ! I want ! I want to purchase Tik Tok.
      😅 The real agenda is to r+o+b “The Goose That Laid The Golden Egg"

    • @vervetech9395
      @vervetech9395 Рік тому +3

      Google and Facebook are

  • @EuroTravChannel
    @EuroTravChannel Рік тому +9

    Is your cell phone monitoring you? Is your email tracking you? Is google, facebook, Amazon, etc spying on you?

    • @rollingdownfalling
      @rollingdownfalling Рік тому +2

      The differences are those companies don't directly answer to the government, where as Chinese firms do when required if you look at firms such as Tencent or Alibaba, because CCP is above the law. (although sometimes I think it's a good thing because those tech Giants are abusing their power such as monopoly or trying to bypass central bank system).

    • @andia968
      @andia968 Рік тому +2

      @@rollingdownfalling wrong ,by law those companies cant refuse cia or fbi to provide data to them

    • @rollingdownfalling
      @rollingdownfalling Рік тому +2

      @@andia968 I guess the lawyers will lose their jobs soon

    • @jadallah5170
      @jadallah5170 Рік тому

      No they don’t and is just a pure hatred from the United States 🇺🇸 because of US debt.

  • @tresphorempundu3185
    @tresphorempundu3185 Рік тому +18

    The question is not weather tiktok is spying on us,the question is who is not spying on us.
    The obvious answer is everyone is doing this on some level or another. I have critically looked at personal security date on all different platforms. Honestly,none is better than the other.

    • @GolDRoger-fx2fp
      @GolDRoger-fx2fp Рік тому

      No. They are worst because their activity of spying is more organized, it's globally and have more evil motives like ordinary people.

  • @lashlarue7924
    @lashlarue7924 Рік тому +5

    If the Chinese police in China come to TikTok (in China) and say, "give me your data", they must comply. TikTok has user data from everywhere. It is a simple matter of not being negligent. These governments should have banned TikTok and every other Chinese app years ago.

    • @Svafne
      @Svafne Рік тому

      Ever heard about the US "patriot act"?

    • @lashlarue7924
      @lashlarue7924 Рік тому

      @@Svafne Yes, I have. And the conclusion doesn't change; it would still be incompetent of the US government to not oppose any backdoor to the Chinese Secret Intelligence Service.

  • @gregorywilson2124
    @gregorywilson2124 Рік тому +35

    Most people don’t realize what China is doing and how different it is than America. They think oh, look at Facebook. This man explains the differences clearly. Great interview.

    • @HumanBeingsRThinkingBeings
      @HumanBeingsRThinkingBeings Рік тому +1

      Mind Begs the Question:
      If TikTok caused no Genocide
      If Facebook caused Religious Genocide,Civil War in Myanmar
      Must Ban - TikTok,Facebook?

    • @angiesniche
      @angiesniche Рік тому

      EXACTLY! The hypocrisy with China is high as it has removed all foreign (mostly American-made) computers and equipment from its government for security reasons. It has refused to respond when asked for comment.

    • @kevinjenner9502
      @kevinjenner9502 Рік тому

      On the national level I recall when the NSA hacked into Merkel’s communications devices under the Obama administration.

    • @PlsDontReadThis123
      @PlsDontReadThis123 Рік тому

      China stiffles international companies daily while also stealing their ips

    • @bobbobing4299
      @bobbobing4299 Рік тому +10

      Maybe for an American they are different, but for me as for foreigner, all are the same.

  • @andymetzen
    @andymetzen Рік тому +11

    "Is China spying?" is not the right question, the concern is China "can spy" and "will spy", and do you trust China to "not spy"?

    • @RoadstersRegistry
      @RoadstersRegistry Рік тому +1

      Edward Snowden?

    • @DemPilafian
      @DemPilafian Рік тому

      All countries spy. You're asking the wrong question. The real question is are there checks on the power to spy? Democracies are far from perfect, but there are checks on power in democracies. The authoritarian CPP has no checks on its power. Dictator Xi brutally abuses his power constantly without repercussions.

  • @freidoonfakiri6439
    @freidoonfakiri6439 Рік тому +2

    According to the balloon theory, Yes, if we believe it. 😂

  • @kylesmith8128
    @kylesmith8128 Рік тому +5

    Reporter = clueless, as her TikTok feed suggested.

  • @suzieleach6036
    @suzieleach6036 Рік тому +28

    Better thumb-nail: Who Isn't Spying on You!

    • @robertmchugh4639
      @robertmchugh4639 Рік тому

      Stay away, spy!!

    • @Liboch
      @Liboch Рік тому

      Exactly

    • @HumanBeingsRThinkingBeings
      @HumanBeingsRThinkingBeings Рік тому +2

      Mind Begs the Question:
      Pegasus - Hacks into iOS,Android
      Apple,Google - design iOS,Android
      Apple,Google - if leave door open,don't fix
      Apple,Google - not responsible,criminal?

  • @diazvirdani1059
    @diazvirdani1059 Рік тому +8

    *China🇨🇳 have border disputes with Taiwan, Tajikistan, Pakistan, India, Bhutan, Japan, Vietnam, Philippines.*
    make border agreement & keep peace!

  • @RadagastilBruno666
    @RadagastilBruno666 Рік тому +8

    True, better to choose a used second hand, foe example
    NSA ,,,, you in germany know something about it, during the summer of Jul 2015?

  • @peternotpeter
    @peternotpeter Рік тому +19

    When you "agree" to the terms and conditions you give them the "rights" to your own personal, sensitive information for tracking and more THINK ABOUT WHAT YOU'RE DOING WHEN "AGREEING"

    • @NazriB
      @NazriB Рік тому

      Lies again? Security Guard Botox Suntik

    • @distrologic2925
      @distrologic2925 Рік тому

      Just like when you are using Google services or Twitter and Instagram.

    • @GolDRoger-fx2fp
      @GolDRoger-fx2fp Рік тому

      Wrong. That's not how PROPAGANDIST, SCAMMERS and LIARS talks.

  • @LiudvikasTaluntis
    @LiudvikasTaluntis Рік тому +2

    Why is it even legal to collect such information when this information is not relevant to service being provided?
    All the government needs to do is to ban collecting any data that is not strictly needed to provide a service. This would put an end to all these privacy scandals.

    • @Svafne
      @Svafne Рік тому

      Exactly!
      This isn't a problem of nationality.
      It's a problem internationally, personal data needs protection no matter where a social media company is located.
      The phone makers(Apple and Google) has the most to answer for as they're allowing this.

  • @MoppetShow
    @MoppetShow Рік тому +6

    I'm surprised as a Journalist that you as a company don't ask the REAL Question "Why would the Government of China use one of their representative's to make a statement on TikTok instead of someone from the actually company"??
    Plus TikTok is illegal in China

  • @wilsonedwards8139
    @wilsonedwards8139 Рік тому +33

    An oversea Chinese officer said, "The Chinese government owns TikTok. It's legal to take all info held by TikTok they want whenever, whoever, and wherever you are."

    • @yaucharles91
      @yaucharles91 Рік тому

      A American officers said "American is all out to band Tik Tok as they cannot spy on the world". I can say whatever i want.

    • @waynegore5291
      @waynegore5291 Рік тому +4

      @wilson,
      I guess you are the oversea Chinese officer. LOL.

    • @wilsonedwards8139
      @wilsonedwards8139 Рік тому +2

      The Chinese Foreign Minister, QingGang said on Feb 21, 2022
      " (If) No peace of China, there will be no peace in the World."
      Qing served as Chinese Ambassador to the United States from 2021 and 2023 and China's Vice Minister of Foreign Affairs.

    • @waynegore5291
      @waynegore5291 Рік тому +2

      @wilson
      You need to serously consider to get more education beyond primary school.
      If someone invades USA, do you think there will be peace for the world?

    • @HumanBeingsRThinkingBeings
      @HumanBeingsRThinkingBeings Рік тому +1

      Mind Begs the Question:
      If TikTok caused no Genocide
      If Facebook caused Religious Genocide,Civil War in Myanmar
      Must Ban - TikTok,Facebook?

  • @gamaigia9270
    @gamaigia9270 Рік тому +3

    ... FB and Google are not spying on you. Hahahaha.

  • @andia968
    @andia968 Рік тому +16

    Anyone still remember angela merkels phone spying by CiA? Never forget

    • @Cyril_Sneer
      @Cyril_Sneer Рік тому +2

      Right, and the massive changes since then!
      Much harder laws, higher protection for the Citizens, more rights for the citizens. A less naiv view on "friends" like USA.
      Now we are best in cyber-security... 👍🏼
      Aber "abhören unter Feinden" is doch okay, oder was!?

    • @empatheticliberalabomina-vu4qp
      @empatheticliberalabomina-vu4qp Рік тому

      When will she be put on trail for demographically destroying Germany?

    • @RadagastilBruno666
      @RadagastilBruno666 Рік тому +6

      @@Cyril_Sneer Yes in fact the covert operation to damage Nord steem 2 is an example..

    • @happymelon7129
      @happymelon7129 Рік тому

      @@RadagastilBruno666 Trump : If Tik Tok sell to American company , then will be OK to use.
      Microsoft : I want ! I want ! I want to purchase Tik Tok.
      😅 The real agenda is to r+o+b “The Goose That Laid The Golden Egg"

    • @frederikpedersen689
      @frederikpedersen689 Рік тому +1

      @@RadagastilBruno666 the russians damaged the Nord stream

  • @evomorales5756
    @evomorales5756 Рік тому +14

    CIA and NSA are upset they cannot backdoor the product. They want to backdoor every product, this is the root source of this drama.

    • @francozheng5617
      @francozheng5617 Рік тому +3

      Unfortunately people will support the CIA. Just like they supported the massacre in Iraq.

    • @HumanBeingsRThinkingBeings
      @HumanBeingsRThinkingBeings Рік тому +2

      Mind Begs the Question:
      Pegasus - Hacks into iOS,Android
      Apple,Google - design iOS,Android
      Apple,Google - if leave door open,don't fix
      Apple,Google - not responsible,criminal?

  • @kubsang
    @kubsang Рік тому +8

    India has already Banned Til tok almost three year.

  • @MrSilvesterlaw
    @MrSilvesterlaw Рік тому +15

    We can look history. Control of communication was a key of control of society. Churches used to control written language. Is it consider social hacking if an apps control what you see and how often you see? What about how often others see your content?

    • @sleepyjoe4529
      @sleepyjoe4529 Рік тому +1

      That's why America controls the world. All the major media outlets are owned by them or just echo their agenda.

  • @petruSarac
    @petruSarac Рік тому +12

    UA-cam, Facebook, Google are banned in China. China has a national firewall. However, banning tiktok is overreaching. Fair enough.

    • @liv-turner
      @liv-turner Рік тому +1

      Exactly.

    • @Leshic2
      @Leshic2 Рік тому

      Tesla cars are also banned at many Chinese locations, and ESPECIALLY in locations where Xi visits, and during large Bejing government meetings.
      You can find a few years worth of videos showing the police on roads, pointing Tesla owners away, while allowing all other cars through.

    • @JigilJigil
      @JigilJigil Рік тому

      Plus 1000s of more apps and 100,000s of websites are blocked/banned in China

  • @damienlewis1605
    @damienlewis1605 Рік тому +6

    Just don’t use TikTok! Delete your account and delete the app from your device. What’s the big deal?

    • @drrohanjacob5343
      @drrohanjacob5343 Рік тому

      Tiki tok can spy even If deleted
      If ever downloaded can spy.

  • @arambedevian7526
    @arambedevian7526 Рік тому +9

    Aren't Facebook and others a national security risk?

    • @gregorywilson2124
      @gregorywilson2124 Рік тому +3

      No. American companies don't turn over user data to the American government. TikTok on the other hand must.

    • @sleepyjoe4529
      @sleepyjoe4529 Рік тому

      @@gregorywilson2124 if you think CIA/NSA/FBI doesn't have backdoors into American companies then you're a fool.

    • @piemaster466
      @piemaster466 Рік тому

      @@gregorywilson2124 No.All Tiktok executives are now working in Singapore. They will never send American data back to China. Of course, the data of the Chinese version of Tiktok will not be taken out of China. These can stand the strictest inspection. Otherwise, the CIA/China NSA would have blocked Tiktok a long time ago.Tiktok is a commercial company. They Know what the world looks like now. What you said about the Chinese government controlling all commercial enterprises in China is just an imagination, and you have no experience with how business works in China.

    • @OptLab
      @OptLab Рік тому

      No. You can criticize your own governments in the west on western apps. Content criticizing China on Tiktok are never visible because of the algorithms. Then all western apps are banned in China (including Tiktok ironically because it's too destructive for the youth, they have Douyin), so we can't defend our model on their soil, but they export and broadcast their ideas through our open platformed, including youtube. Besides, Tiktok pushed only negative content :i t's a took to undermine the west, suck the mental energy of our youth, push silly trends to break our structure, create turmoil among our societies, and promote chinese import of junk.

    • @irs985
      @irs985 Рік тому +1

      @@gregorywilson2124 is Snowden safe now?

  • @siri7005
    @siri7005 Рік тому +9

    Whether it's spying or not is pretty much irrelevant. You shouldn't have TikTok on your work phone because it's for work.

    • @MrGaryZhou
      @MrGaryZhou Рік тому

      Social media campaige, public relationship, advertising, survey are works for many employees.

    • @siri7005
      @siri7005 Рік тому

      @@MrGaryZhou lol. If a department is doing that they'll use a company account, not a rando employee.

    • @OptLab
      @OptLab Рік тому

      It goes well beyond that. If among 100 persons, 7 persons have Tiktok, they can know the whole network and connection of the 100 persons. And even if you don't show your data, China still know when there is network activity near a sensitive site like a parliament, a military base. They can even take pictures and turn on the microphone. So the fact it's a private phone and not a working phone is NOT relevant. It should never be installed.
      THEN, It's a tool used to destroy our fondations, human and moral structures though pushing destructive content. With algorithms they also shift the opinion of any type of group, whether they feel sympathetic to China or not.
      Last but not least, you can criticize your own governments in the west on western apps. Content criticizing China on Tiktok are never visible because of the algorithms. Then all western apps are banned in China (including Tiktok ironically because it's too destructive for the youth, they have Douyin), so we can't defend our model on their soil, but they export and broadcast their ideas through our open platformed, including youtube.

  • @lunaverse_
    @lunaverse_ Рік тому +2

    Is that headline a serious question??? 🤦🏾‍♀️🤦🏾‍♀️

  • @sslaia
    @sslaia Рік тому +7

    Come on DW. You could do better. The interviewer only repeated Chinese gov line (then it's better she works for Chinese companies and not for DW). She should have explored more about the security risk of TikTok's data collection.

    • @HumanBeingsRThinkingBeings
      @HumanBeingsRThinkingBeings Рік тому +1

      Mind Begs the Question:
      Pegasus - Hacks into iOS,Android
      Apple,Google - design iOS,Android
      Apple,Google - if leave door open,don't fix
      Apple,Google - not responsible,culpable?

    • @ghteo9766
      @ghteo9766 Рік тому

      the users are workers, farmers, studens, soccer players. Who is so free to collect their data?

    • @yaucharles91
      @yaucharles91 Рік тому

      You are just brainwashed.

    • @Leshic2
      @Leshic2 Рік тому

      My thoughts exactly.
      Let me say this. The finger may really point towards DW, and not necessarily this lady.
      These are not questions that she's asking off the top of her head.
      These are questions given to her, that she's reading off a teleprompter, that is scrolling over the video camera pointing at her.
      If you've ever been in the audience for a TV show (I've been to many), you can see this infrastructure more clearly.
      Think of it as a "head up display", that's pointed at the TV personality.
      The video camera can shoot through it, pointing at the TV personality, without having it show in video.
      It's the modern day version of reading script off big white boards that somebody flips through.
      Either she's pre-written the questions (possible), or they are being written for her on the fly.
      OR,
      and this may be possible too,
      the "heads up display" are more advanced, and she can see all the questions she's pre-written, and through a keyboard, or mouse at her fingers, she can chose which to scroll.
      This would be hard, as her eye don't move much..

  • @presidentofukraina
    @presidentofukraina Рік тому +7

    Ban it now

  • @nsevv
    @nsevv Рік тому +18

    Never trust tik tok ever.

    • @buravan1512
      @buravan1512 Рік тому

      TIK TOK the most creative and safe app, on net

    • @Liboch
      @Liboch Рік тому

      Trust fb, whatsapp, waze, google, your phone, your telcos,

    • @HumanBeingsRThinkingBeings
      @HumanBeingsRThinkingBeings Рік тому +1

      Mind Begs the Question:
      If TikTok lead to no Murder
      If Pegasus caused Journalists Murder
      More Dangerous - TikTok,Pegasus?

    • @first-gordonchang9510
      @first-gordonchang9510 Рік тому

      Don't trust Tiktok CIA and FBI can't hack into it.

    • @JigilJigil
      @JigilJigil Рік тому

      Never trust anything out of China.

  • @jadallah5170
    @jadallah5170 Рік тому +1

    What about Facebook and Instagram?

  • @frankwang8551
    @frankwang8551 Рік тому +2

    如果Tik Tok被禁,不代表其他美国公司就一定能替代

  • @Liboch
    @Liboch Рік тому +9

    Please ban tik tok, fb, whatsapp, twitter, yt, google, waze...

    • @isunlloaoll
      @isunlloaoll Рік тому +1

      No, ban the apps that can be accessed by the CCP.

    • @ibingobingo
      @ibingobingo Рік тому +1

      You forgot insta

    • @Liboch
      @Liboch Рік тому

      @@ibingobingo yes

    • @OptLab
      @OptLab Рік тому

      You clearly don't understand. You can criticize your own governments in the west on western apps. Content criticizing China on Tiktok are never visible because of the algorithms. Then all western apps are banned in China (including Tiktok ironically because it's too destructive for the youth, they have Douyin), so we can't defend our model on their soil, but they export and broadcast their ideas through our open platformed, including youtube.

  • @GolDRoger-fx2fp
    @GolDRoger-fx2fp Рік тому

    Why not a system that your personal data is really secured?
    Can we still use any platform if your phone prohibit to share your information?
    Why we don't have any "data share block" that prevent platform to access your data like what adblock in blocking ads entering your phone?

  • @turinjatot1316
    @turinjatot1316 Рік тому +4

    it is truly amazing how superficial the CCP's lies are, it's almost like they are taking lessons from the gqp playbook

  • @EliseuMateus
    @EliseuMateus Рік тому

    John Strand, very interesting expert. Thank you for bringing him here!

  • @warriorbeast1998
    @warriorbeast1998 Рік тому

    I never agree to terms of access of my phone.

  • @nonnativeme
    @nonnativeme Рік тому +6

    Double standard as always.

    • @JigilJigil
      @JigilJigil Рік тому

      So true, how do they dare to do that?! I mean we know google, youtube, facebook, whatsapp, twitter, instagram and 1000s of other foreign apps and 100000s of sites are blocked/banned in China, they should be out of their minds to even consider banning an app from a free country called China!.

    • @Rod732
      @Rod732 Рік тому

      China u say? That's right

  • @raymondcarty8755
    @raymondcarty8755 Рік тому +8

    Boycott all Chinese goods .

  • @wasimshaikh1665
    @wasimshaikh1665 Рік тому +15

    If you can't compete, just ban it ~ George Washington

    • @angiesniche
      @angiesniche Рік тому +1

      China is having another temper tantrum again while forgetting to mention they did the same with American-made PCs and equipment. The hypocrisy with China is high.

    • @TheRealBlueValhalla
      @TheRealBlueValhalla Рік тому +5

      Where do you get your facts?
      Oh I make them up.

    • @JigilJigil
      @JigilJigil Рік тому

      So that's the reason google, youtube, facebook, whatsapp, twitter, instagram and 1000s of other foreign apps are banned in China!!! "If you can't compete, just ban it ~ George Washington"

    • @wasimshaikh1665
      @wasimshaikh1665 Рік тому

      @@TheRealBlueValhalla it's a joke

    • @TheRealBlueValhalla
      @TheRealBlueValhalla Рік тому

      @@wasimshaikh1665 mine was too

  • @fishhappy8867
    @fishhappy8867 Рік тому +4

    There's big difference between 'he can' and 'he has done'!

  • @Deafenough
    @Deafenough Рік тому +12

    TikTok is not even available in China people

    • @YanPutrisuryo
      @YanPutrisuryo Рік тому

      Yes. Because China knows how toxic TikTok is.🤨

    • @techcafe0
      @techcafe0 Рік тому

      not true, Chinese TikTok is called 'Douyin'

    • @theymaycry9725
      @theymaycry9725 Рік тому +5

      @@techcafe0 it’s not TikTok it’s a heavy censors water down version made for China

    • @yaucharles91
      @yaucharles91 Рік тому

      @@theymaycry9725 Spreading disinformation.

    • @JigilJigil
      @JigilJigil Рік тому

      So it's a Chinese tool made specifically to spy on foreign nations.!

  • @notarmchairhistorian7779
    @notarmchairhistorian7779 Рік тому +41

    They aren't angry because the Chinese are spying on you.
    They are angry because they're the ones having no access to the app.

    • @HumanBeingsRThinkingBeings
      @HumanBeingsRThinkingBeings Рік тому +5

      Mind Begs the Question:
      Chinese Spying,TikTok - Not Ok
      Israeli Spying,Pegasus - Ok?

    • @netiturtle
      @netiturtle Рік тому

      Why are you so vague about "they" in your already nonsensical statement? Governments in west do not have access to data collected by social media apps. In China, if the communist party asks, companies HAVE to hand over the data and HAVE to keep quiet about it. By law.
      Companies collecting profiles on you is bad, authoritarian government (de facto dictatorship) who is involved in social engineering inside China, upkeeping army of professional influencers such as yourself, having info of masses, is a nightmare.
      In west, especially in EU, there are increasingly tightening rules about how and what data can be collected, where its stored and processed, with every person having legal right to ask for removal of all collected data

    • @ghteo9766
      @ghteo9766 Рік тому +3

      I have no idea if there is spying. But a question, is China so free? Tiktok users are normal peopel whose daily lives are private but not confidential, spy for what? What time German students go school? What food is liked by Germans for lunch?

    • @bobbobing4299
      @bobbobing4299 Рік тому

      ​@@ghteo9766 question is how good is USA towards outer world? In fact they are pretty bad.

    • @JigilJigil
      @JigilJigil Рік тому +3

      WOW so profound words by a Chinese Wumao, they should carve out these words on every CCP building, Xitler is so proud of you son, Mao is so proud of you, oh don't forget to check your account for the 50 cents.

  • @ZoeySaysTransRights
    @ZoeySaysTransRights Рік тому +2

    It poses a huge risk to my annoyance levels. Tiktok ads are obnoxious.

  • @YanPutrisuryo
    @YanPutrisuryo Рік тому +6

    I see a lot of Chinese bots commenting this interview.❗

    • @JigilJigil
      @JigilJigil Рік тому +1

      Yes they are pretty active.

  • @droman752
    @droman752 Рік тому +3

    I think because the CCP had to talk about the US banning TikTok is bad, that actually means it’s good.

    • @RoadstersRegistry
      @RoadstersRegistry Рік тому +2

      Edward Snowden?

    • @isunlloaoll
      @isunlloaoll Рік тому +1

      ​@@RoadstersRegistry oh, that russian spy? When will he join the Russian military and serve his glorious motherland? Or will he continue to live a luxurious life with the Russian oligarchs?

  • @md.mostafakhan4529
    @md.mostafakhan4529 Рік тому

    I think Meta, in every dimension, is now copying Tiktok. They both aggressively try to keep people engaged by providing the best cushion for your feelings.

  • @liv-turner
    @liv-turner Рік тому +5

    Well, as far as I am aware, western social media apps are blocked in mainland China, so they are criticising US and Europe for doing the same?

    • @wma2140
      @wma2140 Рік тому +1

      No end to the CCP’s hubris.

    • @andia968
      @andia968 Рік тому

      Those are american apps not western apps

  • @SheepofTheShepherd-nu3lz
    @SheepofTheShepherd-nu3lz Рік тому

    No Dibbley

  • @joechow3338
    @joechow3338 Рік тому

    You can add fuel to the political issue - a concerted effort simply to kick ALL Chinese communication system out of YOUR world, make any excuses, true or false, never mind.

  • @Leshic2
    @Leshic2 Рік тому +2

    John Strand is 100% right.

  • @BengalTiger-di7gn
    @BengalTiger-di7gn Рік тому +5

    I don’t understand why people are talking about TikTok data only… people can buy data from google, fb , instagram and many more.. what’s the point banning TikTok

    • @HumanBeingsRThinkingBeings
      @HumanBeingsRThinkingBeings Рік тому +1

      Mind Begs the Question:
      If TikTok caused no Genocide
      If Facebook caused Religious Genocide,Civil War in Myanmar
      Must Ban - TikTok,Facebook?

    • @JigilJigil
      @JigilJigil Рік тому

      TikToks works for China's malevolent regime who puts millions of innocent people in camps because of their religion, a regime that has no tolerance of free speech or human rights, so it's not that hard to understand unless someone is not that bright.

    • @Rod732
      @Rod732 Рік тому

      Bc it's from a communist country that don't respect human rights, totally biased and allows harrasment!!

  • @joseviana8306
    @joseviana8306 Рік тому

    But the patriot act let the us see all the data.

  • @Norwegian733
    @Norwegian733 Рік тому +4

    Is Facebook allowed in China?
    No.
    OK; so stop Toktok in the EU and US. Eye for an eye, etc...

    • @JigilJigil
      @JigilJigil Рік тому +1

      It's not just facebook, google, youtube, whatsapp, twitter, instagram, quora,singal, reddit, twitch, wikipedia,.. plus 1000s of other foreign apps are all banned in China.

    • @andia968
      @andia968 Рік тому

      @@JigilJigil american apps not eu apps

  • @gooflydo
    @gooflydo Рік тому +30

    "TikTok is not spying on you, please feel free to use TikTok when near or in government buildings. If you are a bored soldier please use TikTok on your bases because we know how lonely and boring it can be while on duty so the best way to kill time is on TikTok in remote privet locations. If you are waiting for your boss to arrive while doing any kind of R&D use TikTok, don't even turn it off just let it run in the background while you are having meetings or lab research" -CCP... er I mean totally independent privet company.

    • @notarmchairhistorian7779
      @notarmchairhistorian7779 Рік тому +10

      Honestly, they should just outright ban the app along with facebook, twitter and other garbage. They are a stain to humanity.

    • @jonas7510
      @jonas7510 Рік тому

      ''let'' it run in the background ? what makes you think you actually get to turn the spying functions off ? by the way , can you buy an android-phone without facebook preinstalled , and impossible to remove ? the rabbit-hole goes even deeper than you suggested . . .

    • @protektor5026
      @protektor5026 Рік тому

      By the way,if you care about CCP spy you but it can not hurt you,but your government is spying you,it is a really problem. It can really hurt you.

    • @dikiewinn7105
      @dikiewinn7105 Рік тому

      Yes... That's absolutely what Chinese communist party real want !!!✌🏻🤣 Keep use it like daily breathing 😉

    • @frederikpedersen689
      @frederikpedersen689 Рік тому

      @@jonas7510 so? china is an enemy of the west not america

  • @nukiolbartes6279
    @nukiolbartes6279 Рік тому

    4:15 this guy blink his eyes pretty frequently and keep touching his nose.

  • @scottizbeatz
    @scottizbeatz Рік тому +5

    America view on human rights is this...in the state of Missouri, a man found to be innocent and wrongfully convicted of a crime can not legally be released. Although he is INNOCENT! Unless he was sentenced to death he can not be released. Talk about human rights.
    Plus the real reason why is because of the people sharing all the secrets America doesn't want shared.

  • @pychoupchhoeuy2008
    @pychoupchhoeuy2008 Рік тому

    Nothing new now everyone spying on each other’s you doors bell, your car and so on.

  • @HumanBeingsRThinkingBeings
    @HumanBeingsRThinkingBeings Рік тому +3

    Mind Begs the Question:
    If Tik Tok lead to no Murder
    If Pegasus lead to Journalists Murder
    More Dangerous - Tik Tok,Pegasus?

  • @willwong7728
    @willwong7728 Рік тому

    Ask Snowden !

  • @jackchen5516
    @jackchen5516 Рік тому +2

    Its all about Chinese companies are eating corporate America’s lunch. So stop foolish the world people.

    • @covertpuppytwo3857
      @covertpuppytwo3857 Рік тому

      When China restricts access to foreigners in their own market but support the same competition on Western nations... allowing that does allow China to eat America's lunch! Western company creates a new Internet product... China bans that product, subsidizes a Chinese tech company to clone it and makes its a monopoly in China which guarantees it will be profitable straight away because Chinese people aren't offered the choice. That Chinese company then invest that profit to make it as good as the Western version then makes it global to compete in Western markets. And you think that's China playing fair? I don't!

    • @JigilJigil
      @JigilJigil Рік тому

      So that's the reason google, youtube, facebook, whatsapp, twitter, instagram, quora, singal, reddit, twitch, wikipedia and 1000s other apps are all banned in China!!!

  • @peterutomo483
    @peterutomo483 Рік тому

    TikTok's treatment Vs western comparison software company's treatment.. It's like western alliance giving a middle finger to the country of origin. Lol

  • @maineusaMax
    @maineusaMax Рік тому +4

    F Tik Tok anyway. It melts your brain. Uninstall it.

    • @HumanBeingsRThinkingBeings
      @HumanBeingsRThinkingBeings Рік тому +1

      Mind Begs the Question:
      If TikTok caused no Genocide
      If Facebook caused Religious Genocide,Civil War in Myanmar
      Must Ban - TikTok,Facebook?

  • @markbishop1138
    @markbishop1138 Рік тому

    Are you spying on others.

  • @Supernaut2000
    @Supernaut2000 Рік тому +2

    The answer is YES. There, saved you 15 minutes of your life.

  • @foskyfofana6030
    @foskyfofana6030 Рік тому +1

    The U S is afraid of competition.

    • @JigilJigil
      @JigilJigil Рік тому

      So that's the reason google, youtube, facebook, whatsapp, twitter, instagram and 1000s of other foreign apps are banned in China!!!

  • @eldarqurbanov222
    @eldarqurbanov222 Рік тому +2

    Is Facebook spying on you?!

    • @isunlloaoll
      @isunlloaoll Рік тому +2

      Is Facebook banned in China? Is youtube, Google, Instagram, or even tiktok itself banned in China?

    • @loloq4531
      @loloq4531 Рік тому

      @@isunlloaoll The point is still other apps are also spying on you. All these apps are bad not sure why ppl are protecting billionaires

  • @charlesbarnett2724
    @charlesbarnett2724 Рік тому

    An very interesting summary of the situation.

  • @ylu818
    @ylu818 Рік тому +3

    Each time the United States wants money and controlling the market, they didn't say they want money, they said they want safety.

  • @dhanjeepandey4252
    @dhanjeepandey4252 Рік тому +1

    Good one....

  • @jimmytimmy3680
    @jimmytimmy3680 Рік тому +2

    No but the US NSA/CIA is!

  • @grannyappleseed
    @grannyappleseed Рік тому +6

    Block tic tok from all of Europe... we don't want it anyways!!

    • @buravan1512
      @buravan1512 Рік тому +1

      We want TIK TOK than ever before.

    • @HumanBeingsRThinkingBeings
      @HumanBeingsRThinkingBeings Рік тому +1

      Mind Begs the Question:
      Chinese Spying,TikTok - not Ok
      Israeli Spying,Pegasus - Ok?

    • @JigilJigil
      @JigilJigil Рік тому

      @@buravan1512 So you have to ask your own govenment and your president Xitler for it.

  • @santanu-io
    @santanu-io Рік тому +3

    Lol. They are concerned about the small thief Tiktok whereas the gangster of data mafia Facebook is running free 😂😂😂

    • @OptLab
      @OptLab Рік тому

      You need to understand. You can criticize your own governments in the west on western apps. Content criticizing China on Tiktok are never visible because of the algorithms. Then all western apps are banned in China (including Tiktok ironically because it's too destructive for the youth, they have Douyin), so we can't defend our model on their soil, but they export and broadcast their ideas through our open platformed, including youtube.
      Besides, UA-cam wants to make money and does not care to push you through algorithm content that criticize the west, democracy or our governments. Tiktok pushes only destructive feedback, it's a tool used to destroy our fondations, human and moral structures though pushing destructive content. With algorithms they also shift the opinion of any type of group, whether they feel sympathetic to China or not.
      Tiktok is managed by the communist party of China and their goal is to make China stronger. It does not have private financial goals. Tiktok is a tool to take over the world, and this is not a hyperbole.

  • @michaelmiles9475
    @michaelmiles9475 Рік тому +4

    Americans and the EU have been doing this for years

  • @KIA-MIA-POW
    @KIA-MIA-POW Рік тому +5

    In short, YES, THEY ARE!

  • @davidorth4906
    @davidorth4906 Рік тому +1

    Ignuamt gobernator inslee

  • @rydia5395
    @rydia5395 Рік тому

    But where on earth will I get my essential and illuminating videos of people lighting their farts on fire? 🙄

  • @touchpeople4051
    @touchpeople4051 Рік тому

    No worry, just getting foreigner data for new IQ test as nothing to do after collecting inner cells data.

  • @Bangladesh_Lost_Democracy
    @Bangladesh_Lost_Democracy Рік тому +3

    Right decision

  • @niobelsantos6987
    @niobelsantos6987 Рік тому +1

    Delete it and use their US competitor LOMO

  • @12334ttqtqt
    @12334ttqtqt Рік тому

    Joe Rogan told you

  • @nukiolbartes6279
    @nukiolbartes6279 Рік тому

    Who is this guy? i am more interested what Edward Snowden says about this. @DW please invite Edward Snowden :) also about Russia of course.

  • @fullblownmind1551
    @fullblownmind1551 Рік тому +2

    Let's do this China unban all aps then we talk

  • @johnhemryjson8673
    @johnhemryjson8673 Рік тому +2

    Maybe they just trying to copy your dance styles

  • @kiki_sg
    @kiki_sg Рік тому

    I don't have tiktok but u heard from my colleagues people who are using tiktok are like crazy..

  • @bigzed7908
    @bigzed7908 Рік тому +1

    I don't use TikTok, I find it boring. I am just not made to watch such short clips.

  • @CrackleJue
    @CrackleJue Рік тому +3

    Google is blocked by China hahahahha

    • @HumanBeingsRThinkingBeings
      @HumanBeingsRThinkingBeings Рік тому +1

      Mind Begs the Question:
      Pegasus - Hacks into iOS,Android
      Apple,Google - design iOS,Android
      Apple,Google - if leave door open,don't fix
      Apple,Google - not responsible,criminal?

    • @JigilJigil
      @JigilJigil Рік тому

      They have banned them all, facebook, google, youtube, whatsapp, twitter, instagram, quora,singal, reddit, twitch, wikipedia,.. you name it and it's highly likely is banned in China.

  • @ahzanmalik
    @ahzanmalik Рік тому +2

    Ban Facebook too- they know more about one than anyone else! Stop dual standards 😂

    • @PlsDontReadThis123
      @PlsDontReadThis123 Рік тому +2

      Same should go for china. They ban so many websites and companies. They should ban tiktok too.

  • @sarahjoponziolifeteamprinc6060

    I Lost some followers because the president ! I lost some people I follow to ! 😅😢 I don’t care is rumors everything can be dangerous ! Facebook is bad !

  • @dnaann1867
    @dnaann1867 Рік тому

    Not any more than local companies & gvt BUT they are way...way... more undectable & impressive

  • @nekrosoft13
    @nekrosoft13 Рік тому

    Ban facebook

  • @singleservice5373
    @singleservice5373 Рік тому +1

    Must Boycott those territories Chinese smart phone and apps in democracy nation.spying on personal information also.thank u guys

  • @RealOGfikey
    @RealOGfikey Рік тому +1

    Don't Samsung devices send the US state people's data?

    • @chilesauce7248
      @chilesauce7248 Рік тому

      No.

    • @RealOGfikey
      @RealOGfikey Рік тому

      @@chilesauce7248 Yeah, they really do.

    • @chilesauce7248
      @chilesauce7248 Рік тому

      @@RealOGfikey that would be android not samsung, it is the os not the hardware

    • @RealOGfikey
      @RealOGfikey Рік тому

      @@chilesauce7248 That's naive. Even Ed Snowdon illustrated how it's both the hardware and software.

    • @chilesauce7248
      @chilesauce7248 Рік тому

      @@RealOGfikey Ok, believe what you wish... I am a software security engineer so you can have as many theories as you like, I work with it every day

  • @joemahlangu4584
    @joemahlangu4584 Рік тому +3

    This is just targeting Chinese companies and economy, has nothing to do with any security.

    • @havencat9337
      @havencat9337 Рік тому

      exactly, they will eventually trigger another war with this

    • @covertpuppytwo3857
      @covertpuppytwo3857 Рік тому

      @@havencat9337 So... is it some ancient Chinese right to ban Western tech companies but if the West does the same... it will trigger a war? Really?

    • @JigilJigil
      @JigilJigil Рік тому

      So that's the reason google, youtube, facebook, whatsapp, twitter, instagram, quora, singal, reddit, twitch, wikipedia and 1000s other apps are all banned in China!!!

    • @Peaceful_World130
      @Peaceful_World130 Рік тому

      @@havencat9337 ban all Chinese app

  • @EuroTravChannel
    @EuroTravChannel Рік тому +1

    It is called Chinese Exclusion.

  • @tominmtnvw
    @tominmtnvw Рік тому +1

    Yet another meaningless story by DW. The threat to Security that TikTok poses is not measurable, but it is reasonable to believe that there is a threat. End of story. Find something meaningful to report on or don’t report. Your credibility is sinking.

  • @joetran8798
    @joetran8798 Рік тому

    Facebook, Google, Twitter.

    • @JigilJigil
      @JigilJigil Рік тому +1

      Yes they are all banned in China.