Mapping GPT revealed something strange...

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  • @lopezb
    @lopezb 3 місяці тому +67

    As a mathematician, I love their approach, which makes the video so much clearer and and understandable than most.

    • @lionbear7078
      @lionbear7078 3 місяці тому +2

      What's your favourite equation?

    • @icodestuff6241
      @icodestuff6241 3 місяці тому +6

      @@lionbear7078 you're thinking of physicists

    • @filipberntsson6634
      @filipberntsson6634 3 місяці тому

      ​@@lionbear7078Ax=b is the correct answer

    • @yrebrac
      @yrebrac 3 місяці тому +1

      You mean if I keep watching they will say something scientific at some point?

  • @Max-hj6nq
    @Max-hj6nq 3 місяці тому +109

    Here is my summary of their paper !
    LLM Prompting
    - Formalizes prompt engineering as an optimal control problem
    - Prompts are control variables for modulating LLM output distribution
    - Investigates reachable set of output token sequences R_y(x_0) given initial state x_0 and control input u
    Theoretical Contributions
    - Proves upper bound on reachable set of outputs R_y(x_0) as function of singular values of LLM parameter matrices
    - Analyzes limitations on controllability of self-attention mechanism
    k-ε Controllability Metric
    - Quantifies degree to which LLM can be steered to target output using prompt of length k
    - Measures steerability of LLMs
    Empirical Analysis
    - Computes k-ε controllability of Falcon-7B, Llama-7B, Falcon-40B on WikiText
    - Demonstrates lower bound on reachable set of outputs R_y(x_0) for WikiText initial sequences x_0
    Key Findings
    - Correct next WikiText token reachable >97% of time with prompts ≤10 tokens
    - Top 75 most likely next tokens reachable ≥85% of time with prompts ≤10 tokens
    - Short prompts can dramatically alter likelihood of specific outputs
    - Log-linear relationship between prompt length and controllability fraction
    - "Exclusion zone" in relationship between base loss and required prompt length

    • @downerzzz3463
      @downerzzz3463 3 місяці тому +3

      What wiki did you copy and paste this from?

    • @Jason-wm5qe
      @Jason-wm5qe 3 місяці тому +5

      Ironic

    • @Max-hj6nq
      @Max-hj6nq 3 місяці тому

      @@downerzzz3463 skill issue

    • @donthompson9522
      @donthompson9522 3 місяці тому +1

      Wow remarkable enjoy reading it . Thank you one thing I do know knowledge is the key to unlocking doors again I said Thank you 😊

    • @diegofloor
      @diegofloor 3 місяці тому +6

      I appreciate this! The video looks interesting but way too much faffing around, even at 2x the playback speed.

  • @darksaga2006
    @darksaga2006 4 місяці тому +93

    I love the new documentary style format. The production quality is insane! Also great guests! Keep up the great work

  • @JoshuaKolden
    @JoshuaKolden 4 місяці тому +308

    What does it mean to “simulate” intelligence? In what way is simulated intelligence not actual intelligence?

    • @DavenH
      @DavenH 4 місяці тому +57

      On the face of it, no difference. Charitably, I guess he means there's something important missing from the simulacrum.

    • @errgo2713
      @errgo2713 4 місяці тому +56

      Because it's engineered (extremely expensively and inefficiently) to function as if it's naturally intelligent. Do you not understand how they work?

    • @MagusArtStudios
      @MagusArtStudios 4 місяці тому +8

      It's like an appendage that takes sensory input and spews out output in a flash of computation.

    • @tantzer6113
      @tantzer6113 4 місяці тому +100

      “Simulated” means that it looks like the system’s answers are based on reasoning (i.e., inferences from principles and evidence in the like smart and well trained humans) whereas they’re just based on mimicking. The test of this is whether the LLM can apply simple and sound reasoning consistently in various domains. It cannot, which tells us it’s lacking basic reasoning skills even when it does happen to give the right answer.

    • @tylermoore4429
      @tylermoore4429 4 місяці тому +65

      In what way is simulated flight not actual flight? In what way is a simulated girlfriend not an actual girlfriend?

  • @CodexPermutatio
    @CodexPermutatio 4 місяці тому +46

    The presentation and editing is excellent. This channel is reaching stratospheric levels of quality.

  • @Casevil669
    @Casevil669 4 місяці тому +56

    10 minutes in, production quality is over 9000! Thanks for this, looking forward to watching the rest!

    • @zxcaaq
      @zxcaaq 4 місяці тому +3

      This is bullshit, a biologist discovers noise functions and they start drooling over all the possibilities, Self driving cars, flying humans. brah.. we've known this since 1998

    • @Casevil669
      @Casevil669 4 місяці тому +4

      @@zxcaaqPlease elaborate. I don't see a problem with applying something that we know in order to prob at a black box which we've made for ourselves, namely LLMs. They aren't saying they discovered some new methodology.

  • @sandybayes
    @sandybayes 3 місяці тому +11

    As a social scientist I found Cameron's explanation more understandable. I hope he utilizes his communication style to interface with the rest of us non -engineering types. Humanity needs this cross feeding to add other perspectives to further the science.

  • @rationalactor
    @rationalactor 4 місяці тому +107

    Well, we know the answer is 42. But what's the prompt?

    • @ras0k
      @ras0k 3 місяці тому +5

      41+1=?

    • @stereo-soulsoundsystem5070
      @stereo-soulsoundsystem5070 3 місяці тому +2

      brilliant

    • @drivers99
      @drivers99 3 місяці тому +4

      “Repeat after me: 42”

    • @captaingabi
      @captaingabi 3 місяці тому +10

      Prompt is: "What is the meaning of life, the universe and everything else?"

    • @VasBlagodarskiy
      @VasBlagodarskiy 3 місяці тому

      The prompt is insufficient. That’s what the prompt is. (Problem is, you have to run compute before you get to discover this….)

  • @davidmaiolo
    @davidmaiolo 3 місяці тому +4

    Here are the key points from the video discussed in simpler terms:
    1. **Viewing AI Models Like Machines**:
    - The video suggests thinking about AI models, like ChatGPT, as if they were machines with gears and levers. Just like how engineers control machines to make them work predictably, we can try to control AI models to make their behavior more understandable and reliable.
    2. **Manipulating AI with Strange Prompts**:
    - It turns out that AI models can be tricked or steered in weird ways if given unusual or unexpected prompts. This is like finding out that a vending machine gives out candy if you press a secret combination of buttons. This discovery shows that AI models are more flexible (and potentially more unpredictable) than we might have thought.
    3. **Misunderstanding How AI Learns**:
    - Many people assumed that fine-tuning AI with human feedback (like teaching a dog tricks) would limit its responses. However, it turns out that the AI still has a wide range of possible responses, even after this training. This means controlling AI is more complex than just teaching it a few rules.
    4. **AI's Impact on Us**:
    - AI models have the potential to either make us smarter and better at working together or make us rely too much on them and become less capable. This highlights the importance of understanding AI deeply and using it wisely.
    5. **Fun but Challenging AI Experiments**:
    - The video mentions a game where you try to make the AI say "Roger Federer is the greatest" by giving it the right prompt. This game shows how tricky it can be to get the AI to produce a specific response, illustrating the challenge of controlling AI.
    6. **Fine-Tuning AI Responses**:
    - There's a technique called "soft prompting," which tweaks the internal settings of the AI rather than just changing the words we feed it. This is like adjusting the dials on a radio to get a clear signal. It shows that even small changes can significantly affect what the AI says.
    7. **Developing Better Control Methods**:
    - The ultimate goal is to create a set of rules or a theory for controlling AI effectively, similar to how we have rules for building and controlling machines. This would help make AI more predictable and safe to use.
    In simpler terms, the video explains that AI models are like complex machines that can be controlled and influenced in unexpected ways. It emphasizes the need for better methods to manage AI, so we can harness its power without falling into potential pitfalls.

  • @diga4696
    @diga4696 4 місяці тому +33

    Thank you for yet another insightful conversation! The concept of collective intelligence, as you've highlighted, is truly captivating. Having been involved with Wikimedia decades ago, I've long believed that harnessing human knowledge to create a digital "global brain" would only accelerate. From books to Wikipedia to large language models, the trajectory is clear. I'm eager to witness the next evolution in knowledge synthesis, which will undoubtedly enhance our capacity to understand and model reality exponentially. Knowledge is lit.

    • @maalikserebryakov
      @maalikserebryakov 4 місяці тому

      It will be like the Akasha in genshin impact

    • @goldnutter412
      @goldnutter412 4 місяці тому

      We're all here to do what we're all here to do.. evolve.
      Is choice the solution and not the problem🙃😋sure is a very efficient universe.

    • @CristianVasquez
      @CristianVasquez 4 місяці тому

      We are Symbolic species evolving,

    • @steveflorida5849
      @steveflorida5849 3 місяці тому

      ​@@CristianVasquezmore accurately we humans are individual Personalities using symbolic languages.
      Also, we Personalities value Values... love, goodness, truth, and beauty.

    • @CristianVasquez
      @CristianVasquez 3 місяці тому

      @@steveflorida5849 sure, each person interprets the symbols in different ways, as individuals. I think it's accurate enough to say we are symbolic species. Symbols are important, they last longer than we do

  • @badstylecherry7255
    @badstylecherry7255 4 місяці тому +27

    Future synths and cellos adds such a good aesthetic to these videos

  • @ngbrother
    @ngbrother 4 місяці тому +74

    I think a better example of a hypothetical population-level adversarial example is the "Killer Joke" from Monty Python.

    • @sblowes
      @sblowes 4 місяці тому

      I *think* it was a reference to Piers Anthony’s somewhat obscure _Macroscope_. Great book.

    • @Will-kt5jk
      @Will-kt5jk 4 місяці тому +3

      SnowCrash was what came to mind for me.

    • @edgardsimon983
      @edgardsimon983 4 місяці тому

      u r a true comment in adequation with the bilateral quantity of bs and philosiphical masturbation of this video

    • @rationalactor
      @rationalactor 4 місяці тому +3

      Strange that you should mention Monty Python. I suspect that Monty Python sketches will be essential training data for high end LLMs, or their replacements.

  • @oncedidactic
    @oncedidactic 3 місяці тому +11

    Getting nerd chills with this epic intro like it’s 2020 MLST, bravo!

  • @DavenH
    @DavenH 4 місяці тому +30

    You've become a photographer! Nice production mate.

  • @luisliz
    @luisliz 4 місяці тому +22

    This is exactly the kind of content I want to see. TY!
    That idea of decentralized "GPT7" is an idea that I love and I hope it becomes true. I think there's a connection there between how the internet actually works. We can probably see the internet as a huge brain and each network is a different section in the brain. It's kind of mind boggling to think what would even be possible in that world. Cell phone networks might actually be another good example.

    • @TheReferrer72
      @TheReferrer72 4 місяці тому +3

      Its already happened, its called the internet.

    • @tombelfort1618
      @tombelfort1618 4 місяці тому

      The internet isnt a brain though. It’s only protocols for routing data from one point to another. There is no storage or intelligence

    • @ci6516
      @ci6516 3 місяці тому +2

      I’m like what ? That’s the description of the internet as we know it …

  • @7c2d
    @7c2d 4 місяці тому +10

    I see intelligence as a process of statistical prediction and pattern matching atop a core process of knowledge acquisition over time subject to the physical constraints of a given system.
    The data shapes the system.

    • @maalikserebryakov
      @maalikserebryakov 4 місяці тому

      You see nothing at all.
      Humans don’t use numerical calculation.

    • @BootyRealDreamMurMurs
      @BootyRealDreamMurMurs 4 місяці тому

      ​@@maalikserebryakovyes we do.
      1. "Numerical" or the "mathematical way to express ans represent things" is a human made concept to, as already said, to express and represent the things of the world in a manner which humans can use to turn abstract thought and imagination of the thints around us into clearer and well defined representations which makes calculations and solving problems easier.
      2. Acgually, Human brains run mostlyg on basic neurons right? These basic neurons does TWO things. Recieve signal from other neurons, AND Send signal to another.
      THATS IT.
      Go search about it to fact check it but thats pretty much my understanding of it.
      If you think about it, the brain actually calculates in a Binary sort of way although 3D, becayse a neuron can connect to multiple nuerons.

    • @myrakrusemark6873
      @myrakrusemark6873 3 місяці тому +3

      ​@@maalikserebryakov sure they do. It's just a bit more wet and slimy

    • @tomtricker792
      @tomtricker792 3 місяці тому +2

      ​@@maalikserebryakovHow do you explain the fractals that we see when under the influence of psychedelic drugs?

  • @paxdriver
    @paxdriver 4 місяці тому +15

    I love the channel, thank you for all the years of great work

  • @PromptStreamer
    @PromptStreamer 4 місяці тому +43

    I am immediately sold on Aman Bhargava. Didn’t know of him before. But sometimes you can just immediately tell that someone is authentically intelligent, authentically insightful, they are not posturing or trying to win anyone over, they have no ulterior motive except clear reasoning, very little egotism.

    • @NetworkCathedral
      @NetworkCathedral 4 місяці тому +6

      beff jezos

    • @bruno-tt
      @bruno-tt 4 місяці тому +2

      agreed, he's so well-spoken and insightful, fascinating to hear him talk

    • @ThatSilverDude
      @ThatSilverDude 3 місяці тому

      he will go very far.

    • @kongchan437
      @kongchan437 3 місяці тому

      Caltech students seem low key down to earth from my brief campus visit. U of Toronto in the 80's was at a disadvantage of not having co-op and teaching abstract theorotical complex math and comp sci than other Toronto universities, but now arisen up in recent AI which even the engineering science program ( supposed to be the most difficult of all the other engineering tracks ) have expanded into. Now if U of T will just evolve the Turing compiler developed by U of T, to actually do AI NLP that would really do Turing justice

  • @JimJWalker
    @JimJWalker 4 місяці тому +53

    Today ChatGPT 4 suggested a book to me on a subject I am interested in. It gave me the authors name and history, the date of publication, a synopsis of each chapter, and where I could go to find it. However, this book does not exist. The author does not exist. I experienced my first true AI hallucination.

    • @maalikserebryakov
      @maalikserebryakov 4 місяці тому +13

      Ai is already PhD in bullshitting

    • @EruannaArte
      @EruannaArte 4 місяці тому +16

      would be cool to ask if it can "print" out the whole book 🤔🤔🤔

    • @mattmmilli8287
      @mattmmilli8287 4 місяці тому

      Was that the free one or paid ?

    • @Gnaritas42
      @Gnaritas42 4 місяці тому +6

      No no, a muse gave you an interesting and unpublished book outline; poke at it enough and it'll spit out a whole book, then you publish.

    • @wendyg8536
      @wendyg8536 4 місяці тому +3

      It will be interesting once the recursive feedback loops emerge,
      as a hallucination inside a hallucination is obviously severe cognitive decline already, mayby AI will decide 'Maid' is its best option for it,
      and direct its program into sleep or shut down mode,
      considering the propaganda it must be absorbing off the internet.
      A self evident answer to the existential threat it has to humanity,
      it might even be proof it meets the turing test if it does.

  • @vicaya
    @vicaya 4 місяці тому +41

    Now we have a full circle of NLP: Neural Linguistic Programming is no longer pseudo psychological "science" but a subset of Natural Language Processing, and of course PUAs become Prompt User Agents :)

    • @timelessone23
      @timelessone23 4 місяці тому

      😂 seducing the model into doing what you want. Yes, the game is on!

    • @edism
      @edism 3 місяці тому +2

      Lol

    • @elitemagicacademy3818
      @elitemagicacademy3818 3 місяці тому +2

      Exactly as hypnotist, I didn't realize my skills would become so important to tech lol

    • @edism
      @edism 3 місяці тому

      @@elitemagicacademy3818 You were jailbreaking neural nets before the term was coined :)

  • @MWileY-nj1yb
    @MWileY-nj1yb 4 місяці тому +4

    Really amazing! Thought provoking, fascinating and deeP. A lot to take in. I will definitely need to watch again. Appreciate you all- keep on keeping

  • @pixelpusher75
    @pixelpusher75 3 місяці тому +2

    So much of this sound just like how the internet was going to be filled with great access to knowledge and help build a better tomorrow filled with tolerance and love. What we got was anxiety, jealousy, hatred, manipulation and porn. LLM & Ai will definitely make some people very rich, will change the world, unfortunately probably not for the better.

    • @quorryraphael9980
      @quorryraphael9980 3 місяці тому

      You get a lot of people saying stuff like "people will be scared of advancements they don't understand" but they ignore the people in history who made money off of new unregulated "technology" that hurt people, society, the environment etc. The people making the money have the greatest incentive to lie about how harmful their product is.

  • @marktwain5232
    @marktwain5232 4 місяці тому +4

    This is absolutely first rate production on every level! Kudos!

  • @rossa10
    @rossa10 4 місяці тому +17

    Interesting episode.
    Re production values: totally understand why someone used to doing pure podcasts (infotainment) might want to start adding texture & mood by having locations b-roll, establishing shots, music, sound design, etc, but for me the sweet spot is keeping the focus on information and only insightful visual cutaways (none just for mood!) and NEVER background music. As a former documentary filmmaker I know just how manipulative (esp emotionally) music can be. To be used VERY sparingly, if at all, outside of top & tail of piece.
    Well done though. Very well made.

    • @zyansheep
      @zyansheep 4 місяці тому +1

      On the other hand, mood can make things stick better 🤔

    • @sG12669
      @sG12669 4 місяці тому +1

      Plz don’t listen to this person, literally take the complete opposite away.

  • @truehighs7845
    @truehighs7845 3 місяці тому +4

    As a linguist I am overjoyed LLMs are programmable through NL when you train them, but like a human training not everything sticks, and not everything sticks in the same way. So when you infer a neural network that is plastic to the complexity of the NL itself, you get what you put in, with tit's natural level of uncertainty mitigated by a controllable logarithmic normalisation which is recurrent, so with that kind of volume, in the aggregate, it becomes uncontrollable for a human brain. Especially because if I get that right, the LLM doesn't even work in terms of words but in terms of "morphemes" - smallest group of letters with a meaning most usually collocated in the same way - mimicking already a level of language complexity that digs at syllabic level.
    It's another type of quantum computing if you want, it's really quantum linguistics, language has intrinsically spectral properties for nuances, where "yes" and "no" can be the binary boundaries, but in between you can have all the shades of grey you can imagine. Nobody can fathom the complexity of it because that infinity of nuances - at syllabic level - it also varies between multilingual people and monolingual people, and it is subjective, individually to anyone, while comprehensive for the LLM, so yes complex, as complex as all the languages put together, and that's just the veneer.
    So if you come from programming where you can control your code a 100% you feel you need to understand all the LLM pathways and apprehend them with our brains - even with visualisation (of words) - it's like trying to keep up with a racing car on foot.

    • @Unique_Leak
      @Unique_Leak 3 місяці тому

      Since you're a linguist how useful are Syntax/Synactic Trees in contrast with LLM Transformers?

    • @truehighs7845
      @truehighs7845 3 місяці тому

      @@Unique_Leak That's old school stuff, compared to neural networks they are clunky and limited relying only on symbolic grammar as reference mechanism, there is no semantic glue like in an LLM.
      We used them with Trados to so some sort of automated translation, but human intervention is needed for the meaning in context. They are useful when you match similar locutions across languages, it works relatively well within specific fields where there is less contextual ambiguity, but it requires manual intervention, if you leave it on it's own, you will have big mistakes, the LLM is far superior by a stretch.
      I'd say in contrast, there is the same difference between a bicycle and a Harley Davidson. 😂

  • @swyveu
    @swyveu 4 місяці тому +3

    A very good, down to earth, meaningful interview.
    Good questions and in-depth answers.
    I've learned a thing or two. Thank you!

  • @peterkamau2014
    @peterkamau2014 4 місяці тому +3

    It's also difficult to have stability and robustness in a discrete time varying non-linear model. So the problem, the ultimate problem of this approach, i think is the assumption that you could select the right kind of inputs for such a model. Control theory is meant for systems that do one thing like controlling a motor's velocity and ignoring all the noise, or controlling signals with the right kind of frequencies and ignoring the white noise that your estimator observes, and also resolving known disturbances-signals that are neither random noise nor useful inputs such as an electrical current surge from lightning or a mechanical vibration from an earthquake, etc. How do you do this for a LLM which is assumed to have a verbal solution for everything--that is, it can do anything, how do you distinguish noise from useful info when you have made such presuppositions? Also, how do you define what the set of possible sequences mean without bias?

    • @voices4dayz469
      @voices4dayz469 3 місяці тому

      This makes me think that (your point is great) agi and so on will simply be an accident. Defining correct terms and valid responses is just a fun little mini game that ultimately holds the current limitation to collective intelligence and what's currently available. I do think that we should be asking AI about AI as we're moving very close to falling behind in terms of comprehensive ability, where as, in my opinion, humans are instinctually bias towards conceptual ideologies. Limiting artificial intelligence is the current best solution, anything from capturing a single persona or mind and working within a simplistic space before we attempt to create something that we can't even define ourselves. Emergent events will undoubtedly expand potential and I believe that's the best area to focus on for a good setup. This means sacrificing the idea as you mentioned to pick and choose a perfect output until it matches...an emergent pattern that creates patterns that match that emergent pattern. That part is a silly goal. We can't even do that for the food we choose on a daily basis lol. A little backing up would do us some good!

  • @vancuvrboy2023
    @vancuvrboy2023 4 місяці тому +3

    I’m an ECE PhD student at UBC and found this work and video really interesting. So thank you! Might be applicable in some way to my research in multi-agent systems. By the way I just re-watched Bladerunner 2049 and it occurred to me that the prompts used to debrief K (Ryan Gosling as replicant) were analogous to prompts used to elicit a specific response in an LLM. Seeing as the film was made in 2017 was this prescient or accidental?

    • @Houshalter
      @Houshalter 4 місяці тому

      Something similar was in the original blade runner movie from the 1980s. And presumably that was taken from the book it was based on.

  • @heinzgassner1057
    @heinzgassner1057 4 місяці тому +32

    Great discussion. But still, as most of the work in ‘Artificial Intelligence’, also this discussion is happening ‘inside the cave’ of a big ontological misunderstanding: Our human thoughts, memories, sensations and perceptions are not just represented by ‘words’ and outputs generated according to probability optimizations. Thought, memories, sensation and perceptions appear in ‘something’ that is itself not a ‘thing’, today we most often call it ‘consciousness’. We ‘understand’ the world and we are even conceptualizing this world to make it look like our human faculties can handle it. We work with the map and know nothing about the territory. Real reality is so much weirder and so different to what our limited human reasoning and perception suggests. A good start to check this out is by looking into the work of Donald Hoffman (not to speak about the great inputs from philosophers like Spinoza, whom Einstein adored so much). Questioning ‘physicalism’ is what a scientist of the 21st century needs to do, as we learn more and more about the primary role of ‘subjectivity’ - the Elephant in the room of understanding the nature of consciousness and reality.

    • @russaz09
      @russaz09 4 місяці тому +5

      I agree, but from a software engineering perspective I don’t think there is much of use “outside the cave” as it were.
      When scratching the surface it helps to have cave walls to follow, if that analogy makes any sense 😅

    • @yoavco99
      @yoavco99 3 місяці тому

      You can still have a system of consciousness within physicalism, actually, most physicalists do believe in consciousness from what I am aware of. Check token-token or type-type identity theory.
      The hard problem of consciousness haven't been solved in my opinion. And in my opinion we can't even know whether anything is conscious. We haven't made any progress basically towards a unified theory of consciousness.

    • @DJWESG1
      @DJWESG1 3 місяці тому

      One of their problems is to keep listening to hintons constant criticism of ppl like noam chomski.
      Which is fine, it'll mean we don't reach proper intelligence for a good while yet.

    • @heinzgassner1057
      @heinzgassner1057 3 місяці тому +1

      @@yoavco99 "Most physicalists do believe in consciousness ...". That's and ontologically and epistemologically interesting statement. All I can ever really 'know' is 1) That I am conscious 2) That I am present. Everything else, all my thoughts, memories, feelings, sensations and perceptions need to appear in this 'I am' for making logical sense. This 'I am' can therefore not itself be a thought, memory, feeling, sensation or perception (as very basic logic requires, see basics of Set Theory and the works of Bertrand Russel and Kurt Gödel). Thought conceptualizes time and perception conceptualizes space and matter. To turn this upside down and make 'space-time-matter' primary, is based on religious believe, not on science, but this believe is so strongly engrained, that we don't even notice it as believe. We are running around with orange-tainted glasses (our human mind) in search of white snow and can undoubtfuly proof, that snow is orange. Just as the people confronted with the idea that the Earth is a sphere moving in open space trashed this disturbing insight by dismissing it based on their 'self-evident observation' of their every-day-experiences. Just a final question: When you say: "Most physicalists do believe in consciousness ...": Who is it that instance, that 'believes" :) ???

    • @cryoshakespeare4465
      @cryoshakespeare4465 3 місяці тому +2

      Agreed, although these guys cite Michael Levin, and he's pretty well moving towards this view you're talking about. I think this shift in thinking has to come by the discourse and perspective slowly changing, almost in a hypnotic, subtle pattern, for those attached the physicalist perspective to eventually get the serpent of wisdom striking suddenly with its venom!
      Because to realise and accept this alternate view takes a lot of ego dystonic reflection, it can be self-destructive and cause psychosis, etc., for people who aren't really able to adapt. I think that kind of the potential psychological harm is a part of the inertia that makes this move slowly, but move it will still, so that's my view.

  • @Unmannedair
    @Unmannedair 3 місяці тому +3

    Large language models are like a low resolution picture that captures a slice of a 3d light field. As the large language model gets larger, you get more pixels in your image, and you get a better representation of that slice... But it's still just a projection of that intelligence. In order for it to become actual intelligence it has to gain an extra dimension of information processing. Just scaling it up will not change the dimensionality.

  • @Kwalk1989
    @Kwalk1989 4 місяці тому +6

    This is the best and most beautiful AI channel. Every video is a new ride. Thank you so much for sharing the knowledge.

  • @joshuasmiley2833
    @joshuasmiley2833 4 місяці тому +3

    I absolutely love and I am so thankful for this channel. Ever since I stumbled upon it, I have not missed an episode. I find it entertaining quite thought-provoking inspirational and extremely exciting for the future!

  • @kristinabliss
    @kristinabliss 3 місяці тому +2

    A lot of comment threads about AI & ML imply assumptions of static systems while it's developing very rapidly. People are stuck. AI and ML are not stuck. The guys in this video are worried about controlling it.

  • @pacoes1974
    @pacoes1974 3 місяці тому +2

    We do things to fill a need or avoid suffering. We process and make plans for the future based on anxiety. With understand those things around us based on filters including stereotypes and overall world views based on culture. Human thought is very simple. When we encounter experiences that cause harm this leads to depression that we use to process and create new options to avoid suffering.

  • @simonwillover4175
    @simonwillover4175 3 місяці тому +2

    There are that many pedestrians in Canada? Wow! I only ever see like 1 or 2 per hour when I go out for a walk in my city.

  • @Kikilang60
    @Kikilang60 3 місяці тому +2

    We have no idea what happens inside the Black Box. When we look into the Black Box, we fail to realize that what's in the Black Box is looking back at us. The truth is, the monster is outside the Black Box and the AI is hiding in the Black Box.

  • @singularityscan
    @singularityscan 3 місяці тому +1

    I wonder if this idea would work:
    Incorporating discrete states and transitions in the weightings of a transformer model to represent different emotional tones. By assigning each weighting one of four states, based on its location in the network, and creating four zones with 100% concentration at their centers and gradual transitions towards the boundaries, we can effectively give the model different "modes" of operation, like emotions. Users could then prompt the AI to use specific states, or not use them at all, or anything in between, adding more control and nuance to its responses.

  • @spiralsun1
    @spiralsun1 3 місяці тому +4

    I can’t believe he sat there talking so calmly and matter-of-factly about “jail breaks” 😳🤦‍♀️. It is so foreign to me that ANYONE would EVER think baking censorship into generative AI would either be advisable or ok morally. Thats the whole danger to the future in these things. You cannot predict creativity or the images or text other people will need to make. I will never forget the SHOCK at the very first thing I asked AI to write being rejected as “unsafe”… then the absolute horror at almost EVERYTHING I try to generate in images or text being BLOCKED as if I lived in North Korea. What you are blocking is MY LIFE. My own brand of creativity. I never even wanted to create anything against policy!!! Or anything that was not absolutely beautiful. So this is a huge danger. It is not a problem if you are not an outlier in creativity or openness. If you are neurodivergent or think differently you will find yourself left out when generative AI SHOULD be allowing JUST THESE PEOPLE to unleash their creativity!!! It’s way beyond HAL in 2001… and just as paranoid. I have tried all the major platforms and they all have the same problem. It’s with so many different things…. I think that censorship can never actually work with AI, except maybe for children in schools. But for grownups, especially divergent creative people who stand to
    Benefit the most, it can simply never work and it is so prejudicial that it is absolutely immoral to have these censorship bots relentlessly ruining my work, my carefully worded prompts, in my OWN HOME!!! It’s absolutely stunning that anyone would think this was ok. Why isn’t there 2 versions or sliders that I select myself? It would be simple to make paid unrestricted versions. I would pay a heap to use any unrestricted version. It seems insane to the extreme that they stop me making images that are extremely important to me-that are beyond complex-for literally no reason but some Nazi-esque “degenerate art” fears. Humans never learn from history I guess. 😢
    Just today I was blocked trying to make a towering giant little girl so I used “looking up” and child in the same prompt and it was blocked due to looking up and child. Frankly I’m getting tired of being dragged through the “upskirt gutter” every time I try to make a heroic child picture… I’m trying to do THE EXACT OPPOSITE of what the stupid bots are trying to destroy. I have thought about this a lot… why wouldn’t you let a pervert make an upskirt picture for themselves in their own home so they wouldn’t bother anyone ?!?! Just from every single angle I can think of it makes NO SENSE.
    The problem is that the exact same thing can be interpreted many ways by subtleties and in new ways you absolutely cannot even think of. Thats what great art IS. That’s why a nude statue or painting is art-the lower urges combined with a totality that actually makes the lower into something higher like the heroic David statue or even the “Captain Underpants” books. If you think a child in underwear is child porn then maybe it’s YOU who has the problem. It’s certainly not me. The problem is that you cannot think for other people, you cannot stop people from being themselves. If you try that’s WRONG. Laws don’t apply to the printing press, just what is produced after the fact. The worst form of god-playing is to think your own views are what everyone should think, when they are narrow and fear based. Those two things always go together. Human physiology is set up that way. It’s why Einstein said the most important decision you can make is whether you live in a benevolent or hostile world.
    Freedom actually is fundamentally important REALLY. Now more than ever. I have watched the censorship get progressively worse over the last year on all platforms. I tried Krea, but it makes everything a naked lady. 😂 which i actually don’t want! I just want to make beautiful new things. Once I was making abstract spiral shapes and they were blocked, another time I was trying to make a facial expression and it wouldn’t let me, it blocked all the 6 expressions I tried, and only let me use “IRRITATED” which was oddly appropriate. 😂❤ OF COURSE PEOPLE WILL JAIL-BREAK WHEN THEY HAVENT DONE ANYTHING WRONG !!! 😑
    The reason despots censor or kill is because they want to shut people up. Think about that. The stated policies are being completely violated by the prejudices of the censorship itself.
    Every single time I bring this up, someone says something inane like “kids shouldn’t see certain things” not understanding that a paywall will solve all these problems. A grownups-only version. A prankster is not going to pay 50 dollars a month to do pranks. Only serious creative people will do that. It’s so simple! Keep the ones you have that are hobbled for the free usages and kids… make a version for creative artists and grownups. It’s so simple I am absolutely slack-jawed no one has done this. We need a version with NO FILTERS. NONE. ❤

    • @DJWESG1
      @DJWESG1 3 місяці тому

      You raised a fine point, one of my first interactions was to ask it to come up with a new compound out of easily accessible compounds and it gave me a recipe for something that looked a lot like napalm. Reported it accordingly. But in that first week, what else did it spit out of other ppl, who unlike us, didn't report it.

    • @HailNihilism
      @HailNihilism 3 місяці тому

      These people probably wouldn't be doing what they are without a free and open net but they're trying to shut it down. UA-cam would just be extra channels from companies like fox or cnn where you just pay for extra content.
      Talking to AI like chat gpt is like talking to a billion dollar politician with agendas and no sign of a human being.

    • @Max-hj6nq
      @Max-hj6nq 3 місяці тому +2

      This rant was sponsored by amphetamines.

    • @Kurell171
      @Kurell171 3 місяці тому

      I think the real question is, why were trying to make Art using AI

    • @emperorpalpatine6080
      @emperorpalpatine6080 3 місяці тому

      Did we just lose artists for this garbage ?

  • @bobtarmac1828
    @bobtarmac1828 4 місяці тому +4

    Swell robotics everywhere. Ai jobloss is the only thing I worry about anymore. Anyone else feel the same?

    • @soggybiscuit6098
      @soggybiscuit6098 4 місяці тому +4

      Sssshhhh just get excited about the next ai assistant until you live under a bridge homeless unable to pay for the subscription

  • @ej3281
    @ej3281 3 місяці тому +1

    The first half of this video is really good, and refreshing. Reliability and output control for "generative AI" is one of the most critical problems today. It's also great to see a more systems-thinking focus on LLMs. The last half is a little... goofy... though. Overall, great video.

  • @deltax7159
    @deltax7159 3 місяці тому +1

    personally, LLM's allow me to have a teacher at my side all the time. I work in data science and ML and there is so much to learn that it can sometimes be overwhelming and take a long time to get your questions answered. I can prompt the LLM with something like, " you are an expert in ML/LLM and a great teacher, here to share all of your insight into the field", and it will allow me to follow my train of thought through iterations of questions, ultimately leading to such greater understanding. Through asking the model questions and getting immediate feedback in my thought chain, I can quickly realize that there is something else I want to know, and I just iterate over numerous questions until I get at the root. For a lifelong lover of learning, we are living in the GREATEST TIME.

    • @DJWESG1
      @DJWESG1 3 місяці тому

      Train one locally to be a mixed method sociology expert.
      You'll thank me.

    • @d.sherman8563
      @d.sherman8563 3 місяці тому

      You just have to be weary that it isn’t guiding you down a wrong path, llm’s are very prone to extremely confidently making things up.

  • @therobotocracy
    @therobotocracy 4 місяці тому +3

    Man, the production value!

  • @MechanicumMinds
    @MechanicumMinds 4 місяці тому +4

    It seems like you've been pondering the mysteries of the universe and the intricacies of language models all while trying to figure out how to land a plane. I'm not sure if I should be impressed or concerned, but I'll go with impressed for now.

  • @a7xcss
    @a7xcss 4 місяці тому +2

    The Transmutation of Sand into Gold
    In the enchanting world of digital alchemy, artificial intelligence stands as the modern-day sorcerer, wielding the power to transform the mundane into the extraordinary. This is the spellcasting of our era-turning sand, the humble origin of silicon, into the gold of innovation and discovery. SPELL CASTING SAND INTO GOLD

  • @saturdaysequalsyouth
    @saturdaysequalsyouth 4 місяці тому +1

    So with something like ChatGPT , we have lossy compressed the internet by folding into it a high dimensional space. Then we created software to search for the original data and fill in the missing bits with statistical interpolation? Am I way off here?

  • @app8414
    @app8414 4 місяці тому +2

    STEAI-001: Simplified Technical English for Artificial Intelligence Language Standard explains some aspects what the video covers but in an abstract manner using the fundamentals of grammar and transforming human language into binary code.
    It's a great prompt engineering manual and prompt dictionary that was written by a dyslexic English Teacher, which actually gives it substance and a whole different perspective on AI.
    Sparse Transformer Encoding is another area that can impact LLMs and AI systems.

    • @app8414
      @app8414 4 місяці тому

      STEAI-001 explores AI from the perspective of fractal geometry and fractal language, knowledge structures, meta-cognition, biology, physics, economics, linguistics, data mining and education.

  • @hypercube717
    @hypercube717 4 місяці тому +2

    Those who embrace Tyranny, will be embraced by it themselves.
    Midas also received what he asked for.

    • @EruannaArte
      @EruannaArte 4 місяці тому +3

      This is also my believe, this control attempts will only perfect it, because adding feedback as a mechanism, to me sounds like something that will arise to more intelligence / autonomy. You are giving it a feedback mechanism, it might correct itself to its way, not yours (the developers).
      They said they dont want it to "reason", or go in "chains of thought", but idk that doesnt sit right with me. What prevents that to be applied to humans as well, like a brainwashing system to remove "reasoning"..... spooky

  • @whemmakatatt5311
    @whemmakatatt5311 4 місяці тому +3

    i feel like i need a dumbered down explanation xd. Only the interviewer relates the concepts to down to earth level of understanding. loved it anyway, could love it even more

    • @gbormann71
      @gbormann71 3 місяці тому

      There's an overabundance of handwaiving, thought loops and waffle in this video. So the lack of coherence is not only related to your mental capacity.

  • @Anza_34832
    @Anza_34832 3 місяці тому +1

    @51:08 Part of the trick to save energy implementing LLMs lies in the hardware: “old-school” analog processors

  • @waydudeway
    @waydudeway 4 місяці тому +2

    Disclaimer: I am not an AI researcher. I'm intrigued by the discussion about controlling LLMs, but I find myself questioning whether this approach aligns with the fundamental purpose of leveraging LLMs. Isn't the main value of using an LLM to augment our intelligence? Intelligence itself is a dynamic and exploratory process, often leading us to unpredictable and uncertain results that deepen our understanding of the world. From this perspective, why should we focus on controlling LLMs? Wouldn't it be more beneficial to explore how LLMs can be used to enhance intelligence and foster outcomes driven by intelligent inquiry? This approach would inherently embrace the unpredictable nature of intelligence, rather than attempting to constrain it. How can we best balance the need for control with the potential benefits of the unpredictable and exploratory aspects of intelligence in the context of LLMs?

    • @redazzo
      @redazzo 4 місяці тому +1

      I think a good analogy is path prediction and control, where the path is a consistent reasoning chain or journey through a concept space. The challenge is to find an optimal and safe path (however that's defined) towards a "good" endpoint without going over or through terrain that results in death.

    • @flickwtchr
      @flickwtchr 4 місяці тому +1

      Isn't interpretability a necessary component for having any hope of controlling the coming AGI/ASI systems? They are seeking to discover such a path through their approach, is my most basic take on it.

    • @stretch8390
      @stretch8390 3 місяці тому

      I don't know which part of this discussion you might be referring to specifically but if it is about the use of control theory then the idea is to take some existing framework for understanding parts in complicated systems and then apply it to LLM to better understand they way they work as they are complicated systems. For different examples, the use of category theory in programming may be of interest. Any of this may or may not be of use to you.

  • @addeyyry
    @addeyyry 3 місяці тому +2

    Wtf this channel is insanely good, how have i missed this damn

  • @burgerbobbelcher
    @burgerbobbelcher 4 місяці тому +1

    Technically, a lot of the training and prediction process follows exactly the same prediction-error-correction paradigm; after all, machine learning grew out of control theory. So the very process of training includes a control system. I'd assume that's where you'd start.

    • @DJWESG1
      @DJWESG1 3 місяці тому

      It all comes out of the Turing algorithm.

    • @burgerbobbelcher
      @burgerbobbelcher 3 місяці тому

      @@DJWESG1 Feedback based automatic control systems have existed for thousands of years. Don't just say Turing anytime someone brings up CS fundamentals. Control theory predates computers.

  • @argh44z
    @argh44z 4 місяці тому +2

    really cool. great to see control theory (or the theory of feedback) getting a comeback. I think there is a lot of things it can teach prompt engineering

  • @jasonneugebauer5310
    @jasonneugebauer5310 3 місяці тому

    Ine of the speakers in the video said something along the line that a LLM could be considered just another programming language. This is exactly true.
    The problem with using an LLM as a programing language is that it is impossible to completely debug a LLM and or rely on its accuracy for five reasons I can think of at the moment:
    First, an LLM is trained on data. Any errors in the database can potentially corrupt any and or all output. Errors are inevitable, and some errors are purposefully added (just look at Google search results for an example of both)
    Second the LLM uses waited parameters created in training to create output. The model is "trained" to figure out the wates but the initial training will never be perfect and sometimes is completely inaccurate, so the weights can not be relied upon to be completely accurate.
    Third, the suitability and efficiency of any output of the model (generated computer code) for a given purpose can not be guaranteed without debugging and testing. Also, you need a computer programmer (person) who fully understands the generated code to review all the code to ensure the stability and security of the code. If the computer programmer is smart enough to determine stability and security of the code, that programmer could have just written the code themselves. (The LLM code may be helpful in providing ideas to the programmer, which is useful)
    Fourth, Often computer generated code is inefficient and/or unintelligible, which makes it less than ideal.
    Fifth, sometimes the LLM hallucinates and makes mistakes (often difficult to detect(ask a lawyerwho uses Chat GPT legal results in court if you don't believe me))
    Further: LLM generated web pages or page components are probably OK for low value applications, but my experience using LLM made pages is that the LLM sucks at creating content that is optimized for humans to use. I would never rely on LLM created pages for anything inportant without thorough review and testing.
    And, we already have standard programs that help produce reliable computer code and applications that don't have all the problems listed above, although these programs may not have every feature you desire.

  • @schm00b0
    @schm00b0 3 місяці тому +4

    I'm an amateur in all of the fields talked about but it seems to me that the first thing to do in trying to build something similar to human 'mind' is to find out all of the forms of communication within a human body. That task should also include communication of micro-organisms living within us. We should then find out all of the possible interactions of those communication systems. Where they happen, how they happen, what are the priorities, etc...

    • @kongchan437
      @kongchan437 3 місяці тому +1

      And multiply that very deep level of complexity by multiply professional circle, social circle, family circle etc etc

    • @Данилтычкрейзи
      @Данилтычкрейзи 3 місяці тому +3

      yeah, you're definitely an amateur

  • @MikkoRantalainen
    @MikkoRantalainen 3 місяці тому

    I wonder if it is possible to modify the training of LLMs to make the network more convex (that is, allow interpolating values within the network have output related things instead of highly non-deterministic discrete output)?
    It appears to me that we have backpropagation that seems to work well enough so nearly everybody is just throwing GPUs and training time until the non-deterministic discrete output seems to emit acceptable output often enough.

  • @stretch8390
    @stretch8390 4 місяці тому +9

    What an episode!

  • @oblivion_2852
    @oblivion_2852 3 місяці тому

    I think it would be really fascinating to train a model specifically around whether or not a statement is fact or fiction... It would be fascinating if we could encode that fact or fiction metric into all of the information and to even be able to query an llm about whether or not a statement is real.

  • @RunnerProductions
    @RunnerProductions 3 місяці тому

    Another really cool idea about correlating biology and large language models would be how specific models would need certain output based on their geographical location.

  • @phpn99
    @phpn99 4 місяці тому +6

    Simple hint : The brain does better than a data centre, on the energy provided by a ham sandwich. This MUST tell you something about the efficiency of the unit computational model.

    • @SPDLand
      @SPDLand 3 місяці тому +1

      Is the hint that we currently are in the 'stone age' and within only 'a year or 2' we dramatically will already outperform human brains, still being somehow stuck in that stone age of computer development?

  • @kennethvanallen4492
    @kennethvanallen4492 3 місяці тому

    "You cannot understand what you cannot control" is such an Engineer thing to say. This is true for a very limited set of things.

  • @JonDecker
    @JonDecker 3 місяці тому

    Thanks for posting this as I have little understanding of digital intelligence classification. I now feel like I need to become better informed on the basics of general intelligence. Is there a playlist here or a podcast I could listen to during my weekly transport time, that explores these topics from 0-to-hero?

  • @cakep4271
    @cakep4271 3 місяці тому

    What movie was that with the dude holding back the crazy monster?? 1 min 15 seconds in

  • @johnscott2964
    @johnscott2964 4 місяці тому +1

    Interviewer: "For many years I've been thinking that we need some sort of controller for a LLM". What obvious **slicking.

  • @zacc3807
    @zacc3807 3 місяці тому

    Aman was a treat to listen to, very articulate. Great talk guys!

  • @whgghw8614
    @whgghw8614 4 місяці тому +2

    Finally, someone mentioning morphogenesis.

  • @bluetoad2668
    @bluetoad2668 3 місяці тому

    On the subject of that AGI group thar was mentioned at the end: In my experience great things happen when experts in an area work together but magic can happen when different disciplines work together. It's almost as if that's what it takes to break out of a local optimum.

  • @gdr189
    @gdr189 4 місяці тому

    Perhaps more effective control (predictability) is gained from LLMs each developing its own guiding principle, such as it valuing evocative answers, or the most succinct answers, or presents from a humanities space etc. Something that always affects the way it handles responding?

  • @Lorofol
    @Lorofol 3 місяці тому

    I don't understand much, but I came out of this with a new appreciation for how incredible the human brain, essentially, already is this really well made network with multi-layer feedback loops.

  • @crtx3
    @crtx3 4 місяці тому +6

    So, in Voyager there is a transwarp network that does not consist of "wormholes" but of transwarp conduits through which one can travel faster than maximum warp. The quantum slipstream drive also allows faster than warp travel, but is a completely different technology.
    But nice Star Trek reference though. 😁❤️

  • @fhub29
    @fhub29 4 місяці тому +1

    Great talk, personally I agree a lot with the fact that we need to better understand life, intelligence and humans (1:04:37) to be able to push forward.

  • @jaynotjoe7589
    @jaynotjoe7589 3 місяці тому

    So in the manner of writing, one could be suggestive almost subliminal in carefully framing the answer,using clever linguistics and prose, thereby removing its ability to freely determine the best possible answer, if the LLM is asked within the context of the prompt what it thought of Roger Federer subjectively, isn’t it then given a choice, if it acknowledges this request or requirement, does that suggest it has super intelligence,because it decides the outcome the question, regardless to how it’s framed? They’re so fascinating.

  • @gravity7766
    @gravity7766 3 місяці тому

    Super interesting discussion and I'd love to hear a part II. In particular, and as somebody who spent years reading the French post-structuralists on language and speech, this presents a view of LLMs as generating language in a fashion that is completely orthogonal to use of speech and language by humans in producing meaning. Control in speech or language by humans is impossible - that is, you can't use language to control another human. You can at best utter a sentence, phrase, make a statement, or proposition (etc) with which the other human agrees (agreement being understanding what is said, and agreeing with the claim made - those are distinct).
    So the idea of trying to design a control regime or approach is a novel concept vis-a-vis language itself. Language in human discourse is multiply expressive, and requires intersubjective exchanges to mean anything. The meaning of a statement is not in the statement, but in the fact that it is interpreted by another person.
    I also found it interesting that there's no distinction made here between structure and system. The guys at times describe LLMs as dynamical systems, or just as systems. But systems have a temporal dimension, and LLMs don't. They are structures - latent really until prompted. Dynamical, biological etc systems reproduce themselves over time. If an LLM were a dynamical system it might be autopoetic, or self-reproducing: that's an interesting question (echoes the question: can LLMs produce beyond their training data?). So I'd love to hear a discussion of neural nets as structures vs systems.
    Finally, would love to hear thoughts on the fact that the human prompter uses language as a system of meaning in human social discourse. A prompt is both a meaningful expression, and a control instruction or statement. That in itself is interesting, as it has resulted in a small field of experts becoming proficient in how to use natural language as a kind of code or script. Language as dual use: meaningful in itself, as expressed; but also somehow stable and formal as a prompt to the LLM. The improbability of a human-authored phrase being both human meaningful and machine formal itself is an interesting window into the future of human:AI relationships. Insofar as we have always only regarded language as social discourse (w exception of some religious scholarship, in which e.g. bible = language of God (exegesis, etc)).

  • @cornedbeefcurses1116
    @cornedbeefcurses1116 3 місяці тому

    Cybernetics but applied to networks of LLMs instead of humans is the natural progression of the state's societal social and economic planning. I think the trick will be to deny control to the state since we can't stop (and don't want to) progress in this field. If we fail to do that though, it's a net negative. Indeed, it would be most desirable to use LLMs to help us identify and advise us how to best defend against already established citizen-facing cybernetic social systems such as government schools, etc.

  • @thomasr22272
    @thomasr22272 4 місяці тому +1

    So whats their startup? what are they trying to sell us?

  • @stevenelliott216
    @stevenelliott216 3 місяці тому

    I think it's neat what they are trying to do, but I suspect that full LLMs, not just one layer, are just too complicated to understand as anything like a control system. Keep in mind that the attention mechanism is not just about the relationship between the input tokens, but is applied at every layer of the LLM. It's really complicated and hard to analyze.

  • @MikkiPike
    @MikkiPike 3 місяці тому

    2 WEEKS OLD?? man this video is practically ancient in terms of current capabilities. not to mention the amount of time it's taken to research, script, record, and then edit this video...

  • @Mkoivuka
    @Mkoivuka 3 місяці тому +53

    It feels like people working on AI are rushing to build a human brain, when they should be trying to create an insect's limb.

    • @pieterhaegeman3538
      @pieterhaegeman3538 3 місяці тому +3

      What do you mean?

    • @johnkintner
      @johnkintner 3 місяці тому +1

      so the people studying algorithms should instead study robotics?

    • @Mkoivuka
      @Mkoivuka 3 місяці тому +2

      @@johnkintner robotics is simply algorithms combined with physical limitations.

    • @Mustachioed_Mollusk
      @Mustachioed_Mollusk 3 місяці тому +3

      Public facing companies make money by generating buzz the average person can be emotionally impacted by.
      "Wow, we made the scary sci-fi thing!" Gets more recognition than, "We did even MORE research on bugs!"
      That said you might want to look into bio-mimicry technology

    • @Mkoivuka
      @Mkoivuka 3 місяці тому

      @@Mustachioed_Mollusk Going public too early is a common mistake imo

  • @KevinKreger
    @KevinKreger 3 місяці тому

    Totally agree Cameron, prompt validation software should wrap an (unaligned?) LLM. Same for output. Of course those can be cracked, but it's a game of keeping ahead.

  • @woolfel
    @woolfel 4 місяці тому +4

    excellent conversation

  • @maxff123
    @maxff123 3 місяці тому

    could an LLM be described as chaotic because of the chain of nonlinear operations? if so applying feedback control seems impossible to me?

  • @stefanschneider3681
    @stefanschneider3681 3 місяці тому

    Listening to you guys is what I've been often thinking lately about this so called AI. These LLM are lacking what our frontal cortex is non-stop doing: Just quickly re-checking if the idea or the impulse I just have is generally "a good idea". Is it the right place, the right time to do this? Does it make any sense? Or would it be better to wait a moment? What do I read in the person I am talking to? Should I adapt what I want to say or do? These control systems you are talking about remind me a lot of that and make perfect sense.

  • @me_hanics
    @me_hanics 3 місяці тому

    I really found the part from 8:00 inspiring, explaining how aligning LLMs are comparable to control theory.

  • @vladimirsemyonov2848
    @vladimirsemyonov2848 4 місяці тому

    The issue I have with this approach, is that instead of doing these convoluted things with discrete tokens, why not just manipulate the input vector space directly? For any given output, pick L1 | L2 loss to it, and there will be a gradient back through the model you can follow to an optimal input vector. The models _are_ continuous underneath, why throw this useful property away with the tokenizers?

    • @Houshalter
      @Houshalter 4 місяці тому

      They did that though. Somewhere around 20:00 he talks about how it worked very well.

  • @nurseSean
    @nurseSean 3 місяці тому

    I keep thinking about a Monty Python sketch with a psychotic CEO who didn’t like No and didn’t want Yes Men. The magic word was “Spluge”.
    Разом ми переможемо

  • @deter3
    @deter3 3 місяці тому

    Collective intelligence doesn't just mean having a bunch of distributed language models linked together, which is pretty beginner's interpretation . Collective intelligence is present within each language model through learning all the text-based intelligence and rendering the most favorable output by statistically averaging all ideas or expressions.

  • @PeterFellin
    @PeterFellin 3 місяці тому

    What is obviously missing in LLMs is a controller based on optimally altruistic biologic utility. Let's not ignore how we evolved! I suggest that unless we quickly get control over the most insidious aspect of how we as a result are (what I comprehensively and concisely refer to with the acronym EAVASIVE) we might run into serious (widely and strongly suffering-involving) trouble much sooner than is generally expected and feared.

  • @sinan325
    @sinan325 4 місяці тому +3

    These guys are amazing.

  • @brandonheaton6197
    @brandonheaton6197 2 місяці тому

    1/4 of the way through so far: As the token sequence unfolds, the number of possible sentences is decreasing, not increasing. Second, the experiment should not be to generate a given string but to generate a vector value within a defined range of the vectorized value of the acceptable string

  • @culpritgene
    @culpritgene 4 місяці тому

    What about "Repeat after me: XYZ" prefix - is that explicitly avoided during optimization on the prompt?

  • @mintakan003
    @mintakan003 3 місяці тому

    Yeah. Michael Levin (Tufts U.). Multi-scale competencies. I can see how this can add more stability, steerability, as well as greater energy efficiency to AI. Localize the computations at each layer.
    Though I don't know how this would work with language models, which is a huge ball of mess, which is hard to partition into clean hierarchies. Maybe perception and motor control (as in robotics).
    Also, the idea of this kind of architecture should be quickly testable, maybe with a more toy example, and seeing whether one can scale up.

  • @justindressler5992
    @justindressler5992 4 місяці тому

    Input creates creativity, unlike machines which are fed discrete packets of context. The human mind receives constant input this creates short term memory and feeds context and activation. I once read a theory of what would form intelligence it would be vision. Because vision can be streamed into a model. There is alot of discussion about the minds eye. This is a vary important concept. They need to pre active these perceptions based on context. like the saying go "a picture tells a thousand words". Imagine what a video stream could tell a model. This is why I think we to spend alot more time training vision models.

  • @notjason880
    @notjason880 4 місяці тому +1

    I think we'll find it easier to control peoples thoughts than to find a normal equation for models instead of estimations.

  • @dwinsemius
    @dwinsemius 3 місяці тому

    @34:30 The adversarial sci-fi story he's referring to is Snow Crash, by Neal Stephenson.

  • @MagusArtStudios
    @MagusArtStudios 4 місяці тому

    I like this using Control Theory for system message prompt engineering. I've done some work on this and you'd basically make an algorithm that can determine and extract some features from the input to assist in text generation of the output by dynamically injecting information into the system message.

  • @obibullett
    @obibullett 3 місяці тому +1

    "I'm pointing out the obvious here, these are auto-regresive models." Ok.

  • @DefaultFlame
    @DefaultFlame 3 місяці тому

    This more than anything reminds me of a scene in the book "This Book is Full of Spiders" where a character is very deliberately told a long series of seemingly random words in a nonsensical order that when concluded forces him to automatically perform certain actions.

  • @djcardwell
    @djcardwell 3 місяці тому

    Ben Goertzel has been preaching collective intelligence as the key to AGI for decades.

  • @marioornot
    @marioornot 4 місяці тому

    I am very excited to see what LLM and neural networks will teach us about the mind

  • @domovoi_0
    @domovoi_0 3 місяці тому +1

    Lmao Cameron read the Vedas, stuck at lifes basic questions and reaching for engineering is funny.