I Tore My Knee At A New Gym

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  • Опубліковано 27 сер 2024
  • Syndicate MMA was an AWESOME gym, but unfortunately I partially tore my MCL.
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  • @shaneshapiro8528
    @shaneshapiro8528 Рік тому +551

    First off I just wanna apologize for the idiot jumping on your knee like that. We don’t teach that bullshit at syndicate and he’s never in class anyways. Thank you for the great round bro and this video was an awesome break down 🙌🏻👊🏻

    • @TylerSpangler
      @TylerSpangler  Рік тому +79

      Thanks for having me! You annihilated me while chewing gum, but I loved the place!

    • @shaneshapiro8528
      @shaneshapiro8528 Рік тому +1

      @@TylerSpangler you’re welcome back anytime my man. I promise that idiot won’t be on the mats.

    • @submissionsummit
      @submissionsummit Рік тому +9

      @@JT-oc2dn Medically speaking. It looked like the takedown could’ve effected Tyler’s ACL the most. Which in most part, you can still continue to grapple w/o. Look into how Spencer Lee won a NATIONAL TITLE with NO ACLS. Nicky Ryan also torn his acl 3 times.

    • @watchandlearnbjj
      @watchandlearnbjj Рік тому +6

      Dealing with an acl issue now, been grappling almost 20 years, it comes and goes, recently had two rolling guys crash into my knee. Noones fault I guess, sh1t happens. I can't recommend bullet proofing your knees with targeted exercises and stretching allot for longevity

    • @KadeyBenham
      @KadeyBenham Рік тому +20

      Why would you call the guy an idiot all comes down to coaches as if he would have done it if someone had explained to him that you can’t do it and why, Jedi literally does a similar move at the start so clearly students are getting around the gym pulling these acts

  • @bjjpurp
    @bjjpurp Рік тому +162

    Dude I’m so sorry he went for that stupid take down on you in class! That’s one of the Muaythai/amateur MMA fighters and he’s never in our class to know and understand the rules and why the rules are in place otherwise that would’ve never happened. I wasn’t even aware it happened to watching this video. Thank you for coming in though and awesome breakdowns of the rolls! I’d love a roll with you next time but I’m glad you got a round in with my brother at the end. Thanks Tyler!

    • @TylerSpangler
      @TylerSpangler  Рік тому +18

      Thanks for having me! Was fun to flow roll with you

  • @thatkindofguy234
    @thatkindofguy234 Рік тому +278

    wtf, all beginners should be taught that's not an acceptable takedown in rolling, like the equivalent of throwing elbows in a friendly MMA spar

    • @TylerSpangler
      @TylerSpangler  Рік тому +40

      Caught me by surprise for sure!

    • @deputyjack1
      @deputyjack1 Рік тому +19

      Yeah pretty much... I hope someone speaks to that dude before he destroys someone else's knee.

    • @andrewmontgomery5266
      @andrewmontgomery5266 Рік тому +9

      I think it’s a bit like everything else that’s dangerous, he needs a deeper understanding of it to know how to do it properly and more importantly, when it’s ok and when it’s not ok to use it.

    • @zgcherif4167
      @zgcherif4167 Рік тому +4

      I have Just tore my knee with à biggener. The doctor say that i have to take rest for 4 weeks. I hope my knee Will recover and be normal. I think that the sparing with biggeners must be contrôled by the trainer

    • @TrayCaddyyy
      @TrayCaddyyy Рік тому +3

      Every school is different, but I like how Gracie jiu jitsu don’t let beginners spar till they pass their combatives test.

  • @wake1028
    @wake1028 Рік тому +124

    If you know to do that move, you know how dangerous it is. Which is strange, makes you wonder why he'd go for a kani basami knowing that it can hurt you

    • @fighterscorner6787
      @fighterscorner6787 Рік тому

      It is called a dickhead I had a kid tore my knee I had two operations still not right

    • @TylerSpangler
      @TylerSpangler  Рік тому +17

      And now I know too 😅 painful little thing

    • @filteredfavorites8771
      @filteredfavorites8771 Рік тому +10

      As a person who trains at syndicate for a few years now, I don't know who that is. Unless he doesn't normally do night classes, or is on the pro-team, he might have been a visitor as well.

    • @TylerSpangler
      @TylerSpangler  Рік тому +12

      @@filteredfavorites8771 you’ve got a great gym to train at!

    • @teekoo777
      @teekoo777 Рік тому +13

      You'd be surprised how many people just see something on youtube and decide to try it.

  • @BigTiddyGothGrappler
    @BigTiddyGothGrappler Рік тому +57

    This is exactly why I'm terrified to do any takedowns or stand up with ppl I don't 100% trust with my safety & with my situation it's hard to do that unless they're super overtly nice to me. I'm glad you're ok ❤️

    • @NBeaver-bx4yl
      @NBeaver-bx4yl Рік тому +1

      that scisor takedown is one of the only very dangerous one. Doubles, singles, body locks and other throws are safe

    • @davidgomez9674
      @davidgomez9674 Рік тому

      Did my first bjj tournament this past weekend. The stand up in the beginning of my matches was sketchy AF. I hear you about not trusting people with takedowns

  • @slayerbot1394
    @slayerbot1394 Рік тому +246

    As a white belt, im more scared of hurting my opponent than i am of hurting myself

    • @TylerSpangler
      @TylerSpangler  Рік тому +50

      A good mentality to have

    • @mattkeen3811
      @mattkeen3811 Рік тому +5

      This!

    • @liukang85
      @liukang85 Рік тому +4

      similar story for me

    • @Nervii_Champion
      @Nervii_Champion Рік тому

      Lol I can't tell if it's a joke or if youre actually serious from lack of experience, either one is still funny

    • @mattkeen3811
      @mattkeen3811 Рік тому +8

      @@Nervii_Champion He doesn't mean from a technical point of view, that he's willingly going to hurt someone. He means from doing something stupid which results in a training partner getting injured.

  • @alecthompson9585
    @alecthompson9585 Рік тому +105

    I would not have been that chill about that takedown. Kudos for staying cool.

    • @TylerSpangler
      @TylerSpangler  Рік тому +14

      Karma must have gotten me for something else ☺️

    • @LiamLpool
      @LiamLpool Рік тому +9

      Staying cool on the surface but internally thinking 'ok now i'm gonna fucking smash you' is an elite level skill

  • @conormarron3238
    @conormarron3238 Рік тому +104

    You’re way too nice about this man. You can’t let people get away with jumping kani basami in a training environment. As soon as he threw it on you you should have let him know how dangerous and uncool of him that was so he hopefully wouldn’t do it to anyone else in the future.
    Anyways good rolls bro. Hope your knee heals up soon👍🏻

    • @vids595
      @vids595 Рік тому +3

      He could still be nice and point it out to him right then and there.

    • @narukami597
      @narukami597 Рік тому +4

      I wish he broke something in return to teach him a lesson and for justice but he has to protect his youtuber image unfortunately

    • @FrozenAngel4173
      @FrozenAngel4173 11 місяців тому

      @@narukami597 yea cause BJJ is all about bloodlust and vengeance LOL

    • @narukami597
      @narukami597 11 місяців тому

      @@FrozenAngel4173 You need to learn the difference between vengeance and justice. Besides I don't care "what bjj is about".

    • @FrozenAngel4173
      @FrozenAngel4173 11 місяців тому

      @@narukami597 I know what they're about and I know what BJJ is about and this dude is a bbj coach. Sounds like you're insecure of yourself and lack control of your emotions.

  • @LongTimeNoSeeO_O
    @LongTimeNoSeeO_O Рік тому +17

    I was in the gym that day and met Tyler ! He was so chill as well , it was nice talking to you . The first guy in green is not a regular at our gym either , I think he was also visiting !

  • @TylerSpangler
    @TylerSpangler  Рік тому +74

    Yes, my knee hurt, but thank you Syndicate for having me! The gym was awesome!

    • @TheCatchProductions
      @TheCatchProductions Рік тому +2

      Speedy recovery brother 👍🏽👊🏽🙏🏽🌟🙏🏽

    • @jondoe8762
      @jondoe8762 Рік тому

      you should of smashed that guys head into the wall wtf was he thinking

  • @enamlennahc1701
    @enamlennahc1701 Рік тому +78

    Bruh why the HELL would you hit that, let alone so hard? Let alone on a visitor? I know you made a good point about this not defining him or the gym, but damn that dude needs to rethink how he rolls with people.

    • @Soulful_Oatmilk
      @Soulful_Oatmilk Рік тому +13

      On top of that, this dude's leg defense was nonexistent. Why even do kani basami when you don't have any leg attacks to begin with! 🤦‍♂️

    • @microsoftword213
      @microsoftword213 Рік тому +3

      Yeah I dont get why people do that

    • @TylerSpangler
      @TylerSpangler  Рік тому +24

      He must have watched me try to wrist lock a kid last video and went for the prison rules!

    • @rblanco
      @rblanco Рік тому

      @@TylerSpangler hahaha, for sure.

    • @MrCmon113
      @MrCmon113 Рік тому +1

      How dare [random dude] not know literally everything?

  • @JoseGarcia-tr9mp
    @JoseGarcia-tr9mp Рік тому +12

    Sucks when an under skilled guy injures you unexpectedly! As a gym owner, this has happened to me a few times unfortunately. Earlier this year, I hosted a public open mat at my school and this huge 4 stripe white belt was there. He was nothing special, just big, smashing whomever he could and quitting half match from fatigue against anyone skilled. He asked me to roll, of course I said yes. Easily tapped him a few times and he asked me what's the best way to pass guard. So, taking into consideration his natural movement and size I proceeded to coach him on how to do a simple double under pass and what does he do right in the middle of me instructing him how? He reaps my knee after me allowing him to get both of my legs on top of his shoulders, putting all 300lbs of his body weight on the pass too. My knee was injured for 6 months.

    • @damirbajramovic292
      @damirbajramovic292 5 місяців тому

      How the hell did he reap your knee from that position?

  • @jimtaggert7268
    @jimtaggert7268 Рік тому +17

    That takedown was uncalled for…I had a guy do something similar, it was his first mistake!

    • @TylerSpangler
      @TylerSpangler  Рік тому +1

      Ouchie. Hopefully it didn’t tear anything!

    • @jimtaggert7268
      @jimtaggert7268 Рік тому +2

      It hurt…I will not lie…one of those cry in the shower after training days!

  • @PheseantNetsuke
    @PheseantNetsuke Рік тому +33

    you're doing godly work visiting all these gyms for us to see how it's like

    • @TylerSpangler
      @TylerSpangler  Рік тому +2

      Have a different road trip coming up in a few weeks!

    • @LazarusMMA
      @LazarusMMA Рік тому

      @@TylerSpangler if you're ever in NC feel free to check out my spot.

  • @Toadcheese
    @Toadcheese Рік тому +8

    The crunch sounds sends shivers everytime

    • @TylerSpangler
      @TylerSpangler  Рік тому +5

      I get a lot of mileage out of that one 😄

  • @Tommybgoode
    @Tommybgoode Рік тому +11

    So nice to see a black belt being so honest with their rolls. Like that arm bar fail. I feel like it takes the pressure off us lower belts somewhat. When I mess something up, sometimes i thinnk someone at my level should have done better, but it's to mess up sometimes, especially just rolling in the gym.

    • @Enigma_Vids
      @Enigma_Vids Рік тому

      Just be happy you’re mindful enough to see the mistakes you’re making. Identifying the problem is half the battle.

    • @TylerSpangler
      @TylerSpangler  Рік тому +6

      Have to be humble and let people know where I F up too 😄

  • @Dybvad1992
    @Dybvad1992 Рік тому +1

    Hahaha omg the editing and sounds are ON POINT 😂 the hanzo/genji “i need healing when your knee tears hahah. And then the legendary ufc clip right after. Just perfect.

  • @laro64
    @laro64 Рік тому +4

    L or not you’re a warrior bro and your heart was on full display fighting through that injury!!! I learn new things every time I watch and you’re commentary is absolute gold!!!!

    • @TylerSpangler
      @TylerSpangler  Рік тому +1

      Thanks for watching amigo

    • @laro64
      @laro64 Рік тому

      @@TylerSpangler no bro, thank you content is 🔥🔥🔥

  • @Aname550
    @Aname550 Рік тому +11

    There's a reason that throw's banned in judo. Can't train it consistently without injury. Just don't do it.

  • @MMAGUY13
    @MMAGUY13 Рік тому

    I love this guy He is the most humble guy I’ve ever seen. He shows all his wins and he shows all his losses, so what I get out of this. He is a humble guy that could beat most people, but there’s one or two out there that beat him.

  • @chrisvillarreal2752
    @chrisvillarreal2752 Рік тому +1

    I know so many great bbj guys in their 30s and it’s like clock work with the knee injuries poppin up. Father Time always wins 😂

  • @BenefitMe1000
    @BenefitMe1000 Рік тому +6

    I wish the amount of energy Strickland puts into being mad about absolutely nothing he’d put into his actual training for title contention. What a stupid way to waste an IG story.

    • @TylerSpangler
      @TylerSpangler  Рік тому +2

      I agree. Especially when he didn’t respond to me!

    • @BenefitMe1000
      @BenefitMe1000 Рік тому

      @@TylerSpangler That’s clown 🤡 energy bro. Keep doing your thing.

  • @RogueRc
    @RogueRc Рік тому +1

    “The gym was nice enough to let me come in for free, they tore my MCL with some stupid n00b stuff, but otherwise were really nice.” Tons of respect for you, having recovered from knee injuries in the past from ignorant people, my stance is nobody is nice enough to do that to me.

  • @ohyabuddy12
    @ohyabuddy12 Рік тому +1

    Tore my acl first time training in another gym with an idiot, i feel your pain. All the best with the recovery

  • @capaneus184
    @capaneus184 Рік тому +2

    I'd say your dignity is still well intact after taking a big injury and still going on to roll with a very, challenging opponent. Hope the recovery is not too bad.

  • @pd7439
    @pd7439 Рік тому +6

    That was one of the first takedowns I was taught as a whitebelt long time ago. Crazy now in hindsight.

    • @TylerSpangler
      @TylerSpangler  Рік тому +8

      Dang that is pretty crazy for a beginner takedown! Maybe they just wanted you to be super dangerous 😅

    • @deputyjack1
      @deputyjack1 Рік тому +1

      In ancient times we were stupid, and although we knew... We really didn't know better...

  • @drewgatewood1864
    @drewgatewood1864 Рік тому +1

    I'm really glad you didn't break your ankle there, and kudos to you for not going at that guy harder. That is a really mook move pulling out a move like that on someone lighter. There is a good amount of unspoken etiquette that goes into grappling when weight class considerations are removed like in a BJJ session. That flagrantly violated a number of them.

  • @JD-np9ii
    @JD-np9ii Рік тому +1

    You have a blue belt in the art of simultaneous Self Promotion/Self Deprecation. You go hard boi !

  • @boogboog8097
    @boogboog8097 Рік тому +2

    Exactly why that move got banned from judo, if you don't have correct upper body control to take them backwards this happens way too often.

  • @RadicalTrivia
    @RadicalTrivia Рік тому +1

    That's what I expect to see from a coach. Great rolls, hope your knee is ok! 💪🏽

  • @janko5000
    @janko5000 Рік тому +1

    Man love your vids they keep getting better keep it up i am here from the beggining of BSB

  • @SelfTaughtFighter
    @SelfTaughtFighter Рік тому

    Guy who threw scissor take down A** Hole. That pressure pass brining his leg up high testing his flexibility haha, was nice. Damn though that instructor was a savage!

  • @InvisibleJiuJitsu
    @InvisibleJiuJitsu Рік тому

    2:12 oh damn, it's a young me!

  • @Henry-sj1kl
    @Henry-sj1kl Рік тому

    1:That f up.
    2: can you bring back your squad? I miss all those characters 🥲😭

  • @JK-uo3pd
    @JK-uo3pd Рік тому +2

    Definitely would have gouged his eyes out and left them at the membership desk.

  • @Aaronsplace
    @Aaronsplace Рік тому

    i train at cascao i didnt realise you came through hope you enjoyed it i love that gym

  • @aaronalbert4160
    @aaronalbert4160 Рік тому

    4:36 I got to roll with him and his brother, last year when I was there. His brother heel hooked almost at will. He almost caught me with an armbar, but I was able to escape. He was able to control me really well.

  • @andrew-11
    @andrew-11 Рік тому

    this is a small thing but your 'booms' at the start of videos put me in a good mood lol

    • @andrew-11
      @andrew-11 Рік тому

      adding a note here that jedi seems like a cool dude to roll with
      whiskey is hittin bois
      love you

  • @danielwahlin5660
    @danielwahlin5660 Рік тому +1

    The knee-tear was scary. But not half as scary as the fact that the coach was chewing a gum the whole roll.

  • @cliffbeard7899
    @cliffbeard7899 8 місяців тому

    DUDE! YOU ARE CRUSHING IT!!!!

  • @peterfuentes5893
    @peterfuentes5893 11 місяців тому

    As a blue belt even as a white belt, I knew that a sweep like that was very dangerous. I've used it once against a brown belt but I made sure the sweep was clean and if I have to put effort into it, I'll simply ditch it and transition into something else that won't hurt my classmate.

  • @A.C.71
    @A.C.71 9 місяців тому

    best commentary of any bjj guy..love it.

  • @TheRealNiruz
    @TheRealNiruz Рік тому +1

    that knee tear sound that you add in. you gotta stop man lmfao. i cant take it.
    great video

  • @anti-herocollectibles7735
    @anti-herocollectibles7735 Рік тому +3

    hope its not a long term injury. Heal up!

    • @TylerSpangler
      @TylerSpangler  Рік тому +2

      Just a partial tear 😄

    • @nizak
      @nizak Рік тому

      I’m two months still on my tear. Scared to go back to soon because it tore again when I thought it was better.

    • @anti-herocollectibles7735
      @anti-herocollectibles7735 Рік тому

      @@nizak Sorry to hear that. I've had multiple knee surgeries so I'm always cautious about my knees. Hope you can keep building back that strength to regain that confidence. No small task!

  • @vincentt416
    @vincentt416 Рік тому +1

    The editing would be a nightmare but I really wish I could see a breakdown of the full match with what the coach did that was so effective. Also is there a safe way to do what green shirt guy was trying?

  • @The_YouTube_Critic
    @The_YouTube_Critic Рік тому +10

    Unsubbed for having a weak knee.

  • @sfr8382
    @sfr8382 Рік тому +3

    Sean Strickland's the worst. Acts like an edgelord on social media, pats himself on the back about being such a wild violent animal, talks about killing people in the octagon, etc. Then when it's time to put his money where his mouth is, he goes out and gently jabs his opponents for 25 minutes. Sean should focus on being a better fighter and not waste his time getting riled up by youtubers.

  • @jeremymeyer5552
    @jeremymeyer5552 Рік тому

    Im glad this happened in the sense that allot of Jujitsu guys don't realize how injured people get in a wrestling match.

  • @johnnycaralta
    @johnnycaralta Рік тому

    Damn, Strickland must've got his sense of humour knocked out of him by Pereira.

  • @jking5772
    @jking5772 Рік тому +3

    That coach is a monster

  • @brandonballance985
    @brandonballance985 Рік тому +3

    You should visit B-team jiu jitsu

  • @davidmills5286
    @davidmills5286 Рік тому

    nice video. Hope the knee doesn't affect you for too long! speedy recovery and look forward to the rest of the "world tour" haha

  • @Blessed3724
    @Blessed3724 Рік тому +1

    My guy please check out knees over toe guy... He will have some good advice and testimony for treating your knee I think

  • @awsnaps22
    @awsnaps22 Рік тому +1

    This move made me sad and I hope youre able to get back soon

  • @alykat5155
    @alykat5155 Рік тому

    Everyone knows that leg scissors takedowns are banned especially in sparring, I'm glad that their coach acknowledged it

  • @rasalghul9331
    @rasalghul9331 Рік тому

    Thanks, Tyler, for providing this breakdown video. You are a real one for showing your successful AND not-so-successful rolls! LOL! I learn A LOT seeing and hearing your commentary on these rolls. Great to see you have no ego problems showing videos of yourself either way. Great reminder to myself that if an experienced black belt such as yourself go through this still, I should not be taking myself so seriously as a recreational purple belt and to just enjoy the process and the experience of learning.

  • @ricksanchezrosallini3482
    @ricksanchezrosallini3482 Рік тому

    Ouch. Feel better brother! I been there. I have the same rash guard 🎉💪🏽🤙🏽

  • @JDexia
    @JDexia Рік тому

    Hahahaha the third time he was tapping as soon as his foot touched your armpit, he wanted no part of it

  • @racecarrr
    @racecarrr Рік тому

    Shows the importance of etiquette even against a higher skilled opponent 👍

  • @argfasdfgadfgasdfgsdfgsdfg6351
    @argfasdfgadfgasdfgsdfgsdfg6351 10 місяців тому +1

    DO NOT DO SCISSOR TAKEDOWNS.
    Seriously, knees get fucked up with that all the time. A torn ligament can impair you for life.

  • @MassAmorphous
    @MassAmorphous Рік тому +3

    Sean has zero appreciation for your sense of humor 😂😂

    • @TylerSpangler
      @TylerSpangler  Рік тому +2

      It definitely went right over his head

    • @RorySinn
      @RorySinn Рік тому

      I think he's actually too dumb to understand basically any joke 😅

  • @PhysiKarlz
    @PhysiKarlz Рік тому

    An idiot at a Sambo competition tried a horribly executed Kani-Basami on me, almost broke my ankle. At least I won with Juji-Gatami....

  • @flyonbyya
    @flyonbyya 10 місяців тому

    I had knee surgery when I was 13 years old…not fun
    Hope your knee is ok

  • @daddycrawla12
    @daddycrawla12 Рік тому +2

    That’s why we don’t allow that scissor takedown live at our gym have seen some nasty knee injuries and a leg break 😳

  • @RAG1NGxxINFERN0
    @RAG1NGxxINFERN0 Рік тому

    Jeez ive always heard that takedown was super dangerous but I never understood why, unfortunately i got you see why because of you. I hope it recovers quickly.

  • @Pherecydes
    @Pherecydes Рік тому

    Bruh, you know he 100% baited you with that armbar and was ready with that hitch hiker escape. Next time maybe try the mounted armbar first, or get your grip on his wrist/elbow secured so that he can't hitch-hike out. Anyway thanks for the rolling footage, I hope your knee heals up soon!

  • @darrellmcclain5697
    @darrellmcclain5697 Рік тому +4

    You’re a extremely nice guy. That looked pretty bad not something I would feel comfortable doing unless money was on the line

  • @scottgarner6110
    @scottgarner6110 Рік тому

    It is cool they allowed video the roll, but that is why that scissor take down should not be used in any gym, because of the injuries that happen often.

  • @joootooobboosheet2486
    @joootooobboosheet2486 Рік тому +4

    LOL, LET ME BANG BRO!!!!! I seriously said, "Ouch" out loud! I would bash that guy because I don't tolerate bad partners injuring other people. You're not supposed to hurt your training partner, and those high risk moves are just dumb, and often times hurt someone. Going north/south, then full mount was excellent. Let him know that you own him. Once you split his legs, I hope he felt the same pain he inflicted by that stupid takedown.

    • @TylerSpangler
      @TylerSpangler  Рік тому +2

      I love that let me bang bro clip.
      I appreciate him rolling with me, just would prefer to have my knee intact 😂

  • @crakface
    @crakface Рік тому

    Some folks only come to class to win the world championships of sparring. Yie yie yie YIKES! I made the stinky face. Hope you recover quickly.

  • @connormcgrath1064
    @connormcgrath1064 Рік тому

    jumping kani basami is crazy

  • @mjolnir9855
    @mjolnir9855 Рік тому +4

    You should go back and train with that coach more. You got destroyed by him, but you made him work for it. He is obviously very advanced because he used a lot of basics to a very very high degree. That guy has some things you could steal from him. Soul stealing , I call it. Lol

  • @nautascorona2254
    @nautascorona2254 Рік тому

    I can’t believe someone did that ducked up takedown in a friendly roll

  • @michaelsanchez7798
    @michaelsanchez7798 Рік тому

    That take down is disallowed in many gyms for good reason. I believe Judo does not even allow it in competition anymore. That guy was a real dick for doing that in a fun environment.

  • @joshuajtm7202
    @joshuajtm7202 7 місяців тому

    Syndicate is no joke its right next door to cobra kai or close anyway good stuff

  • @nicolaslaquier
    @nicolaslaquier Рік тому +1

    He really telegraphed that takedown though

  • @dinomra7771
    @dinomra7771 Рік тому

    I didn't know you liked Marcelo Garcia, he was one of the first people I started watching, him and Craig Jones.

  • @TopLevelJiuJitsu
    @TopLevelJiuJitsu Рік тому

    Love your vids and style. If you're ever in Ohio, feel free to stop in. We love visitors

  • @Kb11466
    @Kb11466 Рік тому

    That would have been an instant walk off by me after that takedown. What a prick

  • @zer0ed779
    @zer0ed779 Рік тому +2

    This was a casual takedown in my Sombo/Sambo classes, albeit 20 years ago. In five plus years, never saw one injury from it, directly, like that. Then again, we trained it hard. All of the time. Just surprised to see people speaking against it. That said, been out of the loop, a bit. I just wonder what would have been said if no injury?

    • @jiujitsuvideo3835
      @jiujitsuvideo3835 Рік тому +2

      You never saw one injury from it because the guys who got injured didn't come back! What hole have you been training in Zer? This is outlawed in most academies even Danaher's crazy leg lock guys. WTFU!

    • @zer0ed779
      @zer0ed779 Рік тому

      @@jiujitsuvideo3835 This was over twenty years ago, and under almost pure Sombo/Sambo practices with the American Sombo Academy of Northwest. That may explain the difference, too. Various scissor takedowns were, and are, Sambo essentials. There were no people coming and going due to this type of injury. We saw more of that from heated armbar exchanges, but the recipient is still to blame.
      Oh, and we all know Tyler will be back. Maybe quicker than some would like. 😂
      Unfortunately, I no longer train anymore, for various reasons. Other than following loosely, I am out of the loop on rules.
      While I respect Jiu Jitsu as a far superior submission sport, I think the reaction here also exposes one of its well known weaknesses... Takedowns, and take down defense. At least compared to some other combat sports. I can say, back when I trained, even with local Jiu Jitsu guys that could tap me in a second, none of them know much takedown, and they certainly did now practice waist down submissions, which is what a scissor variant can easily lead to. I am glad Danaher and Lister made such practices very popular and refined for their art and grappling in general.
      Again, I was just surprised by the reaction to this. I agree, if this is truly a no-no everywhere now, and I include outside trendy Jiu Jitsu studios, and somehow I doubt that, I have been under a rock. I have kind of already admitted that and no need for insults.

  • @shrimuyopa8117
    @shrimuyopa8117 Рік тому +3

    ... No, you should never do Kani Basami while rolling, only if your training partner knows you are going for it and they give the okay. Only high level competitions should allow this.

  • @paprika5487
    @paprika5487 Рік тому +3

    That takedown that tore your knee looked too dangerous to be doing, at least with a visitor and at that level.

  • @oldjohnny9341
    @oldjohnny9341 Рік тому

    I thought that jumping knee scissors was a banned takedown move.

  • @Watchdogger
    @Watchdogger Рік тому

    Great great commentary. Educational and entertaining.

  • @ianlevers8450
    @ianlevers8450 Рік тому +5

    Great video Tyler, how much did the knee affect your roll with the coach?

    • @TylerSpangler
      @TylerSpangler  Рік тому +11

      Not enough for me to excuse that beating 😂

    • @ianlevers8450
      @ianlevers8450 Рік тому

      😂👍

    • @rusochileno639
      @rusochileno639 Рік тому

      @@TylerSpangler We appreciate that honesty lol thanks for all your vids!

  • @10t0esdown
    @10t0esdown Рік тому

    You can always tell the clowns and uninitiated in nogi by their energy and outfit.. notice how Jedi went for the scissor sweep and lockup at 0:23 but kept his control and takes care of his partners.. I'm personally not against the move, but if someone does it with ill regard like that.. they need a hard lesson. I would have Palhares' his ass when you had that inverted locked in. Kudos to you Tyler for keeping your composure and I hope the knee is doing better.

  • @brentonmckiterick4786
    @brentonmckiterick4786 Рік тому

    I relate to the north south choke spinning lol

  • @PhysicalTherapyAndFitnessPLLC
    @PhysicalTherapyAndFitnessPLLC Рік тому +1

    Coach's game was sharp

  • @ClaytonJonesImages
    @ClaytonJonesImages 3 місяці тому

    Syndicate is a GREAT gym. I'm sorry that happened to you

  • @Turismo69
    @Turismo69 Рік тому +1

    I managed to get my first guillotine today from bottom mounted guard 🎉🙏🏽 all thanks to your videos, sending healing energy 🪬 Oss

  • @bobbyautistic
    @bobbyautistic Рік тому

    I feel your more red dragon than Hannibal

  • @jiujitology
    @jiujitology Рік тому

    Oooooooof Kani Basami on a visitor

  • @tyhatfield7156
    @tyhatfield7156 Рік тому

    The reason why that last guy is really hard is because his wrestling is better than yours I mean you have to admit that I would bet that he is I don’t know what state is in, but he’s a very good wrestler. He has good scrambling and his pressure in the way that he uses it is exactly like that and then he has a lot of jujitsu experience so it’s kind of like go to get your coach but it’s a smaller guy just really more wiry.

  • @Blindgibbon
    @Blindgibbon Рік тому +1

    I dropped into Syndicate for the Musumeci seminar during ADCC. Awesome gym. Are you planning on droping into Methods while in Vegas?

    • @TylerSpangler
      @TylerSpangler  Рік тому +1

      Unfortunately these are my backlog videos from ADCC. Hoping to do Texas soon

  • @kangeraga
    @kangeraga Рік тому +1

    Bro I’m so sorry to hear about your knee! But wait, how was it torn exactly? Meniscus, ACL, MCL?

  • @adamkovacevic8887
    @adamkovacevic8887 Рік тому

    Dude, come to Ocala, FL and kick our asses @PSFBurdhouse!!!!

  • @channi58
    @channi58 Рік тому

    There's a reason it was banned in judo, the mythical Kani basani scissors throw!

  • @worldends2
    @worldends2 Рік тому

    This was fun to watch

  • @nateone6632
    @nateone6632 Рік тому

    My acl and knee hurt so bad watching this

  • @kupop18
    @kupop18 Рік тому

    there's something inherently about someone going for scissor takedowns and very poor leg lock defense. its like he saw the flashy move and was like ya thats really cool and ignored the basics of ya know safety