Forza Motorsport 2023 vs Gran Turismo 7 Comparison Graphics - Cars in the Track Model and Rendering

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  • Опубліковано 30 вер 2024
  • Both sides of the screen are from the actual game's photo mode framing screen (non processed photos)
    Cars: Mclaren P1 GTR
    Track: Spa
    FM8: PC 4K Max with Ray Tracing
    GT7: Ray Tracing replay mode

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  • @wafflem8
    @wafflem8 11 місяців тому +472

    Saying this as an AC player on PC - utmost respect towards Polyphony Digital, true hardworkers and unfortunately very underappreciated in many circles.

    • @darkmist977
      @darkmist977 11 місяців тому +10

      Respect when it comes to graphical fidelity and maybe physics. The rest of the game isnt good enough

    • @Ignamore15
      @Ignamore15 11 місяців тому +44

      @@darkmist977i’m also a ac pc player, but i bought a ps4 and gt7 for $100 total. It’s a super fun game and really makes me remember my gt4 days.
      People nowadays are more complicated, it’s not that Gt7 isnt good. It’s that people want something elese from polyphony and they’ve just been expanding on the same concept for more than 20 years.

    • @thatparticulargame6001
      @thatparticulargame6001 11 місяців тому +1

      ​@@Ignamore15"Super fun game" definely not, I sold my ps4 for a xbox series s and now I am, I can't describe it, more freedom

    • @overheatedeskim054
      @overheatedeskim054 11 місяців тому +3

      you mean GTLensFlares and cartoon colours. Great work

    • @RafaPai84
      @RafaPai84 11 місяців тому +21

      Don't feel sorry for them, Gran Turismo continues to be one of the best selling series Sony have. GT Sport keept selling during it's whole life, and GT7 is following that trend. It still is one of the best, If not the best, selling racing franchise outhere. Sony and Polyphony are fine, the noise the internet does, doesn't affect them.

  • @mastersev8365
    @mastersev8365 11 місяців тому +241

    Damn GT7 cars look 100% better

    • @epic_force_v
      @epic_force_v 10 місяців тому +11

      correction millions times better

  • @Anigaming-dz5gh
    @Anigaming-dz5gh 11 місяців тому +321

    "Built from the ground up" will forever be a meme for Forza, we all know damn well they will probably only redo the engine when the current iteration becomes unusable

    • @TRX25EX
      @TRX25EX 11 місяців тому +10

      Tell me you have 0 Knowledge about game development without telling me that.....
      Bro I'm beta tester for several AAA games, new Forza in terms of game core is a masterpiece that everyone will be looking at..... These kind of games will never look good from launch but over time they age like a fine wine making them incomparable with other games..... Look at Cyberpunl, No Man's Sky, Battlefield 2024, Fallout 76, Skyrim, GTA 5, soon Starfield.... These are all games built new from ground up that had massive issues + looked rubbish on launch, today they are a masterpiece in gaming graphics.....
      Mark my words not only new Forza is miles ahead of GT7 but it will still be ahead of GT8 when that launches

    • @Anigaming-dz5gh
      @Anigaming-dz5gh 11 місяців тому +34

      @@TRX25EX do list said features as to why current Forza surpasses GT7

    • @TRX25EX
      @TRX25EX 11 місяців тому +6

      @@Anigaming-dz5gh Bro it's not about features or content, it's about how game handles new data and do physics calculations + the dynamic ability of it like weather, shadow, lights calculations...... There's a reason why the game have less contents like cars + tracks than before because they need to re do it to match it's engine design, once they get all the data properly inserted in the game you will see Masterpiece that no game comes close, this definitely the first Forza I actually genuinely think it will be at the top for quiet some time, although Horizon did well but this on another level..... Give them time like Starfield and watch how they become a masterpiece like others did

    • @Anigaming-dz5gh
      @Anigaming-dz5gh 11 місяців тому +6

      @@TRX25EX give it like 2-3 years when it's more or less fully done. But from what i seen going from FH4 to FH5, the differences just don't seem to be as prominent as opposed to the previous FH titles, same for FM7 to FM2023, the graphics back in 7 seemed a bit sharper but assuming that their new engine will do all this new data thing you mentioned i guess I'll give that a pass at least. But like i said before, the changes just didn't seem immediate like "oh hey the graphics are massively improved from FH5 or FM7" they were more under the hood kinda things, stuff you see when you play it for like hours

    • @Qimchiy
      @Qimchiy 11 місяців тому +34

      @@TRX25EXYou say that but GTSport is actually built from the ground up and looks way better than FM does right now. Cyberpunk launched looking good but as a buggy mess. Forza Motorsport launched looking bad while being a buggy mess. Turn10 says they used a spectrophotometer for paint, but it looks worse than FM7. The audio is still bad, not as bad as FM7 but not as good as FM6 and FH5.
      Give Turn10 the time and maybe they'll get the graphics looking as good as FM6 did, which looks better than the dark and depressing FM7. It'll never be as good as GT especially as a cross platform game. Even on PC with people who have 4090 and 7800X3D in their rig, FM8 still manages to make some of it's cars look worse than it did in FM1. GT7 is mainly built for one system, the PS5, it has a PS4 version that just lowers the settings with completely different textures sometimes. GT7 has nailed their colors and materials that they've included Scapes where you can put 3D in-game cars into real life 2D photos and it'll look convincing. Driveclub, Horizon 5 (AN OPEN WORLD GAME) and even GRiD Legends looks better than FM8 and they didn't spout some bs about raytracing that doesn't even work and "built from the ground up" when Driveclub and GTSport actually are and did make a leap in graphics.
      Beta tester? You mean you just play the game and give feedback so the devs can fix it? In this case they've seem to completely missed out on several very obvious bugs. Seems like they either ignored or didn't have any testers for this game.
      The game might be fun, but they have to fix it first to get rid of the game breaking bugs or annoyances and graphics isn't going to be making the leap considering this is where the baseline sits. GTSport on the PS4 is where the baseline graphics for GT7 on the PS5 sits and they both look photoreal. On top of that GT7 has VR and you can look at the models up close in 3D.

  • @jimking81
    @jimking81 11 місяців тому +238

    Car design on GT is absolutely stunning!

    • @danielstokker
      @danielstokker 11 місяців тому +16

      Takes 4 to 6 months to create a car and put in gt7 every car by itself is love story on its own from designers and developers not a single detail is overlooked

    • @boredguy2935
      @boredguy2935 10 місяців тому +1

      @@danielstokker to bad there's nothing to do with them, shit physics and barely any classes lol

    • @DCFHazardRebornChannel
      @DCFHazardRebornChannel 10 місяців тому

      Laser scanning at its best. hardly design at this point so I give zero credits to the designers themselves. The results are amazing though and they should keep doing this. Its the best way to bring all this fidelity into the digital world from the real world.

    • @jimking81
      @jimking81 10 місяців тому +2

      What a funny reply.. This is high tech in order to bring more real life experience and visuals! In 2023 you expect drawings in paper?! 😅

    • @DCFHazardRebornChannel
      @DCFHazardRebornChannel 10 місяців тому

      @@jimking81 Exaggerating with straw man arguments and paper drawings doesn't look good for you and also repeating what I already said shows you didn't even probably read or understand my comment.
      1) Laser scans is the way to go, I already said this. I quote "Its the best way to bring all this fidelity into the digital world from the real world"
      What part of that sentence did you not understand?
      2) I also said that the result is beautiful. I quote again. "The results are amazing though and they should keep doing this"
      At 2 points now I mention that this is how it should be done.
      3) And to my initial point, It is not designing, it is a scan.
      No need to pretend I am talking about paper drawings mate just to excuse the wrong wording you used. This is not designing. Not by a longshot. So calling it car design is fundamentally wrong. They are scans. The real designs are ready and finished and they are simply scanning and placing all the parts together.
      And to further elaborate, its not easy work, it takes time and some aspects might need to be modelled/designed, but aside from that 5% here and there the rest is like part assembly. The process is technical based, not design based.
      Thus, what you should of said is "the car models on GT are absolutely stunning".. Its not design. I simply corrected the interpretation so you and others can understand the fkng difference. No need to get anal about it and start with exaggerations, further proving you understood fuck all from what was said. Try to read before being defensive, you might learn something in your life.
      Good day to you.

  • @GunBlasts
    @GunBlasts 11 місяців тому +194

    Ty for adding that dialogue, it was perfect. “bUiLt FrOm ThE gRoUnD Up!!!” And the ground was xbox 360 🤣

    • @GT7XART
      @GT7XART  11 місяців тому +13

      Maybe they really didn't have enough time, lol.

    • @sbp6326
      @sbp6326 11 місяців тому +35

      ​​​@@GT7XARTyes...only 6 years and the most powerful console...😡

    • @Carlito_Brigante93
      @Carlito_Brigante93 11 місяців тому +3

      🤣🤣🤣🤣

    • @overheatedeskim054
      @overheatedeskim054 11 місяців тому

      Or your just a biased mfker not worth watching@@GT7XART

    • @overheatedeskim054
      @overheatedeskim054 11 місяців тому

      don't worry Digital Foundry will shut this down soon.

  • @---ke3lg
    @---ke3lg 11 місяців тому +269

    Forza went from a franchise made by people with a passion for cars to a franchise made by people with a passion for money

    • @aaronsmith7143
      @aaronsmith7143 11 місяців тому +41

      Yeah, I don't think anyone that loves cars or motorsports works there anymore. At least polyphony is run by a guy who loves cars and has actually raced irl.

    • @hollowdreamer1386
      @hollowdreamer1386 11 місяців тому +10

      Game pass

    • @VariantAEC
      @VariantAEC 11 місяців тому +19

      Forza was *NEVER* a franchise made by people with a passion for automobiles and motorsports.
      Turn 10 was created by MS as a way to get a GT-like game on their platform, the Xbox. In 2005, the first Forza Motorsport game was finally released on Xbox to compete with the nearly year old GT4 on PS2. Dan Greenawalt and company (the people of Turn 10), to my knowledge, have no experience driving cars at the limit, never mind formally racing like Kazunori Yamauchi had a short racing career and company (the people at Polyphony Digital) have all been trained to drive cars at the limit courtesy of Kazunori San's connections within the world of motorsport. PD has real passion, and it shows in their work, that being Gran Turismo. Evolution Studios also had real passion, and that showed in their work Driveclub, which still, overall, looks better than GT7.
      No one who has seen the world outside really believes Forza Motorsport 2023 holds a candle to the technical prowess of Polyphony Digital's or Evolution Studios' latest released games. The latter studio's latest released game shipped nearly 10 years ago exclusively for PS4 and was never upgraded to leverage PS4 Pro's capabilities, and yet it still outshines Forza Motorsport 2023 easily.

    • @GraveUypo
      @GraveUypo 11 місяців тому +4

      @@VariantAEC way overdid the brownnosing there pal. FM is a huge disappointment, but GT7 is basically the same level of shit. just GT SPORT 4k, but worse.

    • @VariantAEC
      @VariantAEC 11 місяців тому +11

      @GraveUypo
      "just GT SPORT 4k, but worse."
      What makes GT7 worse?

  • @James_08_07
    @James_08_07 11 місяців тому +184

    GT7 is best in class, the end.

    • @DMCRacing82
      @DMCRacing82 11 місяців тому +18

      GT will always win. Can't wait to see how much attention forza will get in 6 months

    • @dusermiginte4647
      @dusermiginte4647 11 місяців тому +2

      Lol no, FM8 even FM7 looks better than gt7..

    • @DMCRacing82
      @DMCRacing82 11 місяців тому +29

      @@dusermiginte4647 🤣😂

    • @dusermiginte4647
      @dusermiginte4647 11 місяців тому +1

      @@DMCRacing82 well Im right according to all non pony channels everywhere..

    • @saadhussain7910
      @saadhussain7910 11 місяців тому

      did you not watch the vid?@@dusermiginte4647

  • @dutchmadness1771
    @dutchmadness1771 11 місяців тому +197

    I'm a xbox boy, but GT7 really looks stunning

    • @hello-eq2xt
      @hello-eq2xt 11 місяців тому +18

      I agree fm8 was disappointment dude

    • @juju99662
      @juju99662 11 місяців тому +4

      In this video im sure FM8 had issues with contrast.. After restart n close the game... Its better than this. But still cant compare with Gt7 (in car detail n graphic)

    • @W-meme
      @W-meme 11 місяців тому

      ​@@juju99662no, only car details.

    • @GraveUypo
      @GraveUypo 11 місяців тому +5

      @@juju99662 nah, car modeling and lighting in forza is all over the place. GT just plain looks better there. it looks worse basically everywhere else, but the cars... yeah you can see in the video.

    • @tastyoldgravy
      @tastyoldgravy 11 місяців тому +1

      ​@@juju99662nope. That's how it is on XBX. It looks terrible. The visuals and car sounds are making a rather fun driving experience kinda crappy and ruins the immersion.

  • @kennethchau2258
    @kennethchau2258 11 місяців тому +63

    GT the car details is amazing 😍

  • @brianludwick6043
    @brianludwick6043 11 місяців тому +58

    GT7 cars definitely look a lot more realistic.

  • @technotim22
    @technotim22 11 місяців тому +47

    i’m shocked there’s such a gulf between the 2 games. FM is so far off GT7 it’s untrue. PD have always had the passion for detail and it shows this is the case right here. FM lighting is so harsh whereas GT7 is dynamic and delicate, textures are so bad in FM - every surface looks the same. whereas you can almost feel the tyre rubber in GT7…light years apart really.

  • @noahcarvalho2105
    @noahcarvalho2105 10 місяців тому +18

    GT is not a game, it’s an experience.

  • @metallicsilver
    @metallicsilver 11 місяців тому +35

    GT7 car models are lightyears ahead of FM. The realism in lighting is phenomenal, FM looks good but GT7 is way better!

  • @lilshax7297
    @lilshax7297 11 місяців тому +17

    " Built From The Ground Up " 💀💀

  • @mugetsu012
    @mugetsu012 11 місяців тому +18

    GT have more realistic picture

  • @ThatGuyErazo
    @ThatGuyErazo 11 місяців тому +123

    As a long time Forza fan, Polyphony Digital absolutely humiliates the lazy work Turn 10 has done. All the great strides and improvements PlayGround Games has made with FH5 was completely ignored by Turn 10.

    • @fredV35
      @fredV35 10 місяців тому +1

      I won't say that Turn 10 has been lazy, rather that they may have done their best within the budget they were allowed, which unfortunately meant REUSING pretty much every assets from previous games.

    • @millbrick
      @millbrick 10 місяців тому

      @@fredV35 Considering that they're a sub-team of Microsoft... did they just forget to give them funding at all? for being one of the main competitors on the racing game scene right now, you'd expect them to have enough funding from their parent company to deliver something up to snuff.

    • @JohnDoeWasntTaken
      @JohnDoeWasntTaken 9 місяців тому

      @@millbrick It was a typical case of not enough time to actually finish the game. The higher ups making the deadlines have no clue how game development works or why rushing a game and releasing it unfinished is bad. I'm not 100% excusing the devs though, they're not children who need to be protected, they also share some of the blame. We really don't know for sure what went down in the studio but it's mostly a case of them not getting their shit together in time before the deadline.
      What's really egregious is the straight up lies throughout the trailer. "built from the ground up" repeated over and over when it's blatantly untrue. I wish someone would sue Microsoft or T10 over this, you can't just peddle bullshit like that to people nowadays, it's straight up false advertising.

  • @DMCRacing82
    @DMCRacing82 11 місяців тому +108

    In 6 months everyone will be back to GT7

    • @davidr6865
      @davidr6865 11 місяців тому +34

      Already back to it

    • @JotaV2502
      @JotaV2502 11 місяців тому +36

      I'm already back. Uninstalled Forza in 7 days of playing, no regrets. GT7 is simply a better game

    • @KogMawsTvShow
      @KogMawsTvShow 11 місяців тому +16

      @@JotaV2502 I am big Forza fan but i also uninstall it after 2 days.

    • @wolffpackracing
      @wolffpackracing 11 місяців тому +3

      Not even that long

    • @footlongfabo
      @footlongfabo 11 місяців тому +5

      lol already back to it mate

  • @567CHALLENGER
    @567CHALLENGER 11 місяців тому +16

    I knew it was bad, but not that bad 😨

  • @dmarkj22
    @dmarkj22 11 місяців тому +81

    GT7 looks way more lifelike and realistic and the cars look sharper. Forza looks animated and way too over the top and exaggerated.

    • @overheatedeskim054
      @overheatedeskim054 11 місяців тому

      lmao GTLensflares and cartoon colours look lifelike....just because you want GT7 to be better in your mind doesn't make it so.

    • @barryschwarz
      @barryschwarz 11 місяців тому +14

      @@overheatedeskim054 The texture quality is better on GT7, some polygonal elements are just smoother on the GT7 car, the colours are more vivid and the ray tracing is smoother and more detailed. GT7 is objectively better at the graphics, and though I would call neither photo-real, GT7 gets much closer to that than Xbox, at least with these pics.

    • @lukasspeed7917
      @lukasspeed7917 11 місяців тому +14

      @@overheatedeskim054hey buddy did you watch the video?? You know gt7 is on the right and forza is on the left gt7 looks insanely better than forza so much that’s it’s embarrassing for forza

    • @adrianhosein7698
      @adrianhosein7698 11 місяців тому +6

      @@overheatedeskim054 anyone with two eyes a brain and common sense can see GT7 looks 1000 times better than forza, stop capping.

    • @danielstokker
      @danielstokker 11 місяців тому

      ​@@overheatedeskim054yea keep bitchinh kicking screaming and crying gt7 wins in every department from forza

  • @eeehmmwhat2406
    @eeehmmwhat2406 11 місяців тому +11

    Looks like Forza Motorsport used some Asphalt 9 car models in their game

  • @mf.graphy
    @mf.graphy 11 місяців тому +5

    Xbox fan right here but forza look trash compared to Gt

  • @EvilGucio
    @EvilGucio 11 місяців тому +13

    Car models from X360 FM3 and FM4

  • @_generapiese_5700
    @_generapiese_5700 11 місяців тому +54

    "Next generation of FM" "Most technically advanced racing game ever made"
    Aged well
    In all seriousness tho... FM looks dogs*it compared to GT7

    • @imvivalamilo
      @imvivalamilo 11 місяців тому +3

      Even compared to the optimised GT7 AI cars 😂

    • @JZStudiosonline
      @JZStudiosonline 11 місяців тому +4

      I don't understand how they fucked up the shaders so bad. It looks worse than any prior forza game.

  • @KonTurboR
    @KonTurboR 11 місяців тому +20

    The ground was hell.

  • @srakulec
    @srakulec 11 місяців тому +35

    forza fanboys are so mad rn

    • @XD-gq4so
      @XD-gq4so 11 місяців тому +11

      True 😂 they don’t accept the reality

    • @alandanielsaucedo5066
      @alandanielsaucedo5066 11 місяців тому +1

      I am actually, they gave us a subpar game.

    • @63kkagiso
      @63kkagiso 11 місяців тому

      Not really, I’m a forza fan boy and agree this is shit.

    • @Igloojames
      @Igloojames 11 місяців тому

      Both games are trash they not even proper Sims , both games are very inconsistent when u play gt7 sometimes it looks awful but sometimes it looks amazing same for motersport even horizon beat them in graphics ACC still is way better 😊

    • @sma_garage
      @sma_garage 11 місяців тому

      Not really. I’m a big forza fan but the new Motorsport that was “built from the ground up” is pretty ass. It’s ok to play but overall still kinda bad

  • @clacky78
    @clacky78 11 місяців тому +24

    And your comparing a cross gen game to a supposed next gen "built from the ground up" game 😬 polyphony are magicians when it comes to car scanning. Every button and cable tie is alive inside every car in PSVR2. What could they do if they were only catering for ps5 ??? 🤔

    • @imvivalamilo
      @imvivalamilo 11 місяців тому +1

      GT7 looks unreal, whatever console you play on. Everyone complaining about a game being on last gen because they “hold back potential” is stupid. Yeah, GT7 looks better on a PS5, but it’s not like the PS4 doesn’t do it justice. “The next gen gaming experience” is just a marketing scheme.

    • @jclive2860
      @jclive2860 11 місяців тому

      honestly it seems like a big chunk of gt7's budget went towards its VR mode.The main ps5 mode just seems very unfinished and unfufilling. It is still enjoyable, but I wonder if we wouldve gotten a much bebtter product if VR wasn't implemented. Barely anybody even owns the PSVR2 it has extremely low sales. That's probably why polyphony was so incentivized to work on the VR mode, to get more sales on the VR.

    • @clacky78
      @clacky78 11 місяців тому

      @@jclive2860 not sure where you are getting low sales from, Bloombergs report was fake news, probably Xbox paid. Sony's figures were over double that in the first 6 weeks which is well ahead of the original psvr and that was before it was even in retail. I think there will be a bit of a shock when they release the next figures. And GT7 is an adaption of GT sport, which had already had a VR mode. The PSVR2 pretty much inhances that itself. The showroom's etc as fantastic as they look are also not that much work as you are viewing an almost perfect scan of a car that has already been done anyway. There are videos of polyphonys scanning booth out there. So no I disagree polyphony are slow but they hopefully have something big cooking for the next update. Forzas release should keep them on there toes 🤞

    • @clacky78
      @clacky78 11 місяців тому

      @@imvivalamilo I certainly wasn't complaining, I was stating an obvious fact that Forza had the potential to be more enhanced due to not being cross gen and it's failed. GT7 is still better. And no you can only push the boundaries of 1 gen so far and reduce it back so far too. Or we would all be able to play reduced versions of GT7 on ps2

    • @imvivalamilo
      @imvivalamilo 11 місяців тому

      @@clacky78 I didn't think you were complaining, I was just kind of adding onto what you were saying. But now that I'm reading back what I wrote, I ain’t got a damn clue what I'm rambling about.

  • @danielstokker
    @danielstokker 11 місяців тому +24

    I love gt 7 i do for 26 years now to see how far it has come is amazing now with the new spec 2 update and sophy AI getting added the game is crazy and blows forza clear out of the water without a doubt

    • @EeekiE
      @EeekiE 9 місяців тому

      For VR alone it blows it out of the water for me.

  • @EB720S
    @EB720S 11 місяців тому +13

    Gt 7 without rt looks a million time better than fm with rt

    • @DanielAlvarez-o6n
      @DanielAlvarez-o6n 10 місяців тому

      Pssssttt gt7 doesnt have RT on track what you see here is pure genius lighting

  • @Orangie13
    @Orangie13 11 місяців тому +18

    Gt always wins

  • @olgacamargo9711
    @olgacamargo9711 11 місяців тому +27

    Gt7 looks better. And in VR its totally unmatched. Grant Turismo is just way ahead of FORZA.

    • @DanielAlvarez-o6n
      @DanielAlvarez-o6n 10 місяців тому +1

      Who is grant turismo ?

    • @88boat
      @88boat 10 місяців тому

      it's light years ahead buddy, get your wording straight.

  • @Followyourpassions
    @Followyourpassions 11 місяців тому +4

    20hours..back to Gt7 with my psvr2. Lol. Microsoft lied again.

  • @roideus
    @roideus 11 місяців тому +20

    Color management isnt perfect in any of those games, but the GT model is so much better. I wouldn't be surprised if the FM model came from FM7.

    • @GraveUypo
      @GraveUypo 11 місяців тому +6

      i wouldn't be surprised if it came from fm5. some came from fm2, this didn't because this car wasn't a thing back then, because if it was, it would probably be from fm2 😂

    • @GhostCodeRG
      @GhostCodeRG 11 місяців тому +1

      alot was ported from FH5

    • @watersnortmoment3734
      @watersnortmoment3734 10 місяців тому +3

      @@GhostCodeRG Which, a lot was ported from FH4, the cycle only stops at FM2

    • @jiska111111111111111
      @jiska111111111111111 10 місяців тому

      Color management? Wym
      And GTs colors are very accurate

  • @sbp6326
    @sbp6326 11 місяців тому +10

    Maybe mr esaki instead of lying will understand that black must be BLACK,not grey or blue...
    It's not so diffcult but i think he need another 6 years for understand that and how make replays without pop up in 2023...

  • @grimfiddle578
    @grimfiddle578 11 місяців тому +5

    Ground up

  • @eatdahl
    @eatdahl 11 місяців тому +7

    Gt7 is a different league in graphics. Like comparing championship to champions league

  • @kuilios
    @kuilios 11 місяців тому +4

    oh wow, really makes forza motorsport look like a peice of piss

  • @xbone8950
    @xbone8950 11 місяців тому +4

    you must be running the car model detail on potato settings, doesn't look like this for me.

  • @Iso5on
    @Iso5on 11 місяців тому +14

    Forza developers got this wrong didn't they. I do really like the new handling - IMO it's the best Forza has ever felt with a wheel - but I'm so disappointed in the graphics. I mean, the XSX is a pretty powerful unit and yet this game looks 10 years old.

    • @DanielAlvarez-o6n
      @DanielAlvarez-o6n 10 місяців тому +1

      Seriously i was thinkingbthe same thing m sad for you forza players wish i could give you a free ps5 with gt7 just to try

    • @JohnDoeWasntTaken
      @JohnDoeWasntTaken 9 місяців тому

      @@DanielAlvarez-o6n My brother has a PS5 with GT7 and yeah I ain't even gonna try to say Forza looks better. GT7 still looks blatantly like a console game (I play on PC) but a beautiful one at that. I just also realized it's on PS4 too, so that explains why it didn't blow me away as much as I expected. Another next gen game held back by having to also release on a previous gen console, what a shame.

  • @mr.carter0521
    @mr.carter0521 11 місяців тому +3

    Forza was built from the ground up 😂 what a fking joke. Gamepass fodder as usual. GT7 reigns supreme

  • @rsr9377
    @rsr9377 10 місяців тому +8

    Gran Turismo has always been ahead of the game. Just stunning. Polyphony Digital is excellent with detail and gameplay.

  • @rxshovxx
    @rxshovxx 11 місяців тому +5

    My eyes hurt looking at thus badly rendered p1 gtr

  • @Z4N7
    @Z4N7 10 місяців тому +3

    Wow,this is not even comparable.
    GT7👑

  • @ld9387
    @ld9387 11 місяців тому +10

    As a Forza fan since Motorsport 3, it's sad to see what Forza has become. Nevermind the graphics, GT7 looks like the more enjoyable game.

    • @DanielAlvarez-o6n
      @DanielAlvarez-o6n 10 місяців тому +1

      If you get the chance try it seriously

    • @Ratman-44
      @Ratman-44 10 місяців тому

      Gt7 with VR and a good wheel is like an amusement park ride in your living room.

  • @focussport
    @focussport 11 місяців тому +14

    I don't know why the Forza developers thought everything looking hazy, washed out, dirty and abandoned in the desert was the way people wanted their cars to look.
    This isn't even a comparison. GT7 has no comparison on console, and only PC games running super high settings and sometimes mod packs to equal the models/lighting of GT.
    Glare is GT7s problem. Polyphony thinks the sun is ALWAYS shining in your eyes from multiple reflections all the time. So strange.

    • @Ben-Rogue
      @Ben-Rogue 11 місяців тому +5

      I personally prefer the way GT handles this over Forza. Cars are very shiny and angular, and on a clear sunny day, cause bright reflections that are hard to even look at without sun glasses on. Forza just goes the bloom route, which was ugly and lazy even 2 generations ago

    • @DanielAlvarez-o6n
      @DanielAlvarez-o6n 10 місяців тому +1

      Glare is handled better also then any other game and gran turismo.is always " work in progress"

  • @ak740_
    @ak740_ 11 місяців тому +15

    The difference is generational. Gt7 is on another level

  • @edsondossantos9566
    @edsondossantos9566 11 місяців тому +2

    forzinha 💩💩

  • @jcm2789
    @jcm2789 11 місяців тому +3

    Lol i think turn 10 is mentioning GT7 in their game introduction. All of they said is absent in Forza Motorsport and present in GT7 😂

  • @hello-eq2xt
    @hello-eq2xt 11 місяців тому +5

    The funniest part is that fm5 is better than fm8 , idk what the devs were doing at these 6 years😢😢

  • @aqoursin4k278
    @aqoursin4k278 11 місяців тому +3

    Bruh the car model and lighting from FM looks like it's from an old mobile game.

  • @evertonmourao208
    @evertonmourao208 11 місяців тому +9

    Tenho um Xbox, mas o GT está anos, mas anos luz a frente do Forza, na modelagem de carros.

    • @viniciusbosqueiro9902
      @viniciusbosqueiro9902 11 місяців тому +1

      com ctz mas leva uma surra em adição de carros e no principal no que se espera de um jogo que tende a simulação FISICA, gt 7 leva uma surra de forza motor sport 7 de 2017 desse então nem se fala.

    • @JotaV2502
      @JotaV2502 11 місяців тому +2

      ​​@@viniciusbosqueiro9902 😂😂😂😂 nem vc mesmo acredita nisso, GT7 é simplesmente um jogo melhor em quase todos os aspectos, dos modelos a física do comportamento de cada carro na pista. Os carros em GT7 são feitos com mais meticulosidade e detalhes

    • @ygorsousa5142
      @ygorsousa5142 10 місяців тому

      ​@@viniciusbosqueiro9902GT Sport do PS4 já dava aula para Forza de como fazer um simulador, aliás é meu simulador favorito comprei até um PSVR para jogar o modo VR é simplesmente insano.

  • @amigodesigns
    @amigodesigns 11 місяців тому +49

    GT7 looks really good in some shots, in other fails a bit, like on the windscreen and top, but generally the mesh desnity is extremelly good for a game, it almost looks enough for studio renders for advertisment etc, texturing is also really good. Forza on the other hand... It's awful, how can an open game like Horizon 5 look significally better than a track game like motorsport? Idk

    • @ildskimi
      @ildskimi 11 місяців тому +5

      What do you mean ? Even the above shot there is a big difference.

    • @amigodesigns
      @amigodesigns 11 місяців тому +6

      @@ildskimi I'm not comparing both to each other in my coment, but analysing them separetly. GT7 looks clearly much better in any scenario than Forza, but in isolation, the shots of the windscreen and top in GT7 aren't as realistic looking as the other shots in GT7.

    • @aaronsmith7143
      @aaronsmith7143 11 місяців тому +8

      It's funny you say that about the advertising renders. Polyphony has used their engine to produce advertising renders for a few manufacturers including Ferrari and BMW

    • @amigodesigns
      @amigodesigns 11 місяців тому +3

      @@aaronsmith7143 do you have any examples? Aside from obviusly the GT vision cars that are of course designed for GT and therefore use ingame footage most of the time for advertisment

    • @aaronsmith7143
      @aaronsmith7143 11 місяців тому

      ​@MrTor8
      Thwy are really hard to find but I'm pretty sure this was one. I know specifically the ferrari California was introduced with a render from polyphony.
      ua-cam.com/video/08svLVxcT0k/v-deo.htmlsi=c5_BAN9rFjHTAAQr

  • @matholvr
    @matholvr 11 місяців тому +3

    0:16 we could close the video here

  • @EeekiE
    @EeekiE 9 місяців тому +2

    One is made by people passionate not just about cars but their own game.
    The other is made by some guy in an office cranking out models all day because their platform needs a GT game, too.
    One studio is inspired by the real world and capturing and sharing it in digital form.
    The other studio is tasked with emulating their results.
    One studio is lead by a guy that fell in love with the original GT-R and idolised its engineer while in university.
    The other studio is lead by whoever the platform holder put there and would be just as happy being reassigned to some other job with exciting new possibilities.
    Polyphony Digital has been making the same game with the same team since the late 20th century and they show not a hint of being done with it.

  • @jaden6211
    @jaden6211 11 місяців тому +2

    Motorsport looks like a 10 year old game while also running really bad. I don't know why xbox exclusives are so shit these days

  • @GT7XART
    @GT7XART  11 місяців тому +8

    For all those who question my image quality settings regarding FM8 in this video, please see my next video. ua-cam.com/video/YVPVc59A4NA/v-deo.html

    • @GT7XART
      @GT7XART  10 місяців тому

      This was recorded a month ago. In the latest upgrade, T10 has fixed RTAO bugs to make the shadow effect more natural, but the vehicle model remains the same.😀

  • @CheckmateHD
    @CheckmateHD 11 місяців тому +3

    Damn Forza looks awful here

  • @RicardLazaro
    @RicardLazaro 11 місяців тому +3

    Really? Forza looks lowpoly xD

  • @LSDdreams808
    @LSDdreams808 11 місяців тому +5

    My hates off to grand turismo the details they add is unmatched by any other game out there.

  • @MiguelRodriguez-lp9et
    @MiguelRodriguez-lp9et 11 місяців тому +10

    This is just another case of Japanese developers being more passionate than American ones.
    We've already seen in games like elden ring and the legend of zelda, but this is an exclusive and the pathetic fanboys will never admit it looks better despite the evidence.

    • @ericgrajales6854
      @ericgrajales6854 11 місяців тому +1

      Yeah too bad for us Americans

    • @jhonymunoz1280
      @jhonymunoz1280 11 місяців тому

      En algo que si hace mejor gt7 a comparación de forza es el modelado de los autos, de ahí en más forza barre el piso con gt7 ya que los colores llamativos y la paleta de colores palida de forza hacen parecer algo diferente compara el juego como se comporta en pista, en situaciones de lluvia, carreras nocturnas y ahí es donde se ve como deslumbra forza

    • @boredguy2935
      @boredguy2935 10 місяців тому

      Except Forza is the better racing game. GT is ass outside of visuals

  • @Nite_Rider
    @Nite_Rider 11 місяців тому +2

    Ok forza fans can’t be saying anything from this video

  • @OZIPUG1970
    @OZIPUG1970 11 місяців тому +5

    The ground up 🤔Imagine what gt8 will look like and not being held back by the ps4 😮

    • @KRSRK
      @KRSRK 11 місяців тому +1

      Dimimishing returns buddy ... The cars and tracks are already 1:1 on PS4, PS5 just elevated the detail ...

  • @ZA-7
    @ZA-7 11 місяців тому +2

    I don't think forza here is on full graphics

  • @SasekPL
    @SasekPL 11 місяців тому +2

    The PS4 GT7 version is better than "next gen" Forza.

  • @Borsalino11
    @Borsalino11 11 місяців тому +2

    1:34 jesus

  • @jesusfernandez81
    @jesusfernandez81 11 місяців тому +3

    Gt7 es bastante superior

  • @clydewaqabaca1768
    @clydewaqabaca1768 11 місяців тому +2

    For me GT7 looks better from the comparison I'm seeing on this vid.

  • @TheBoricuaGamer
    @TheBoricuaGamer 10 місяців тому +2

    Forza is a fart of grand tourism🤣

  • @haziqhashim2618
    @haziqhashim2618 11 місяців тому +2

    Are Forza Horizon and Motorsport made by different people ? Cars in Horizon sometimes have better quality than in Motorsport

    • @ld9387
      @ld9387 11 місяців тому

      Yes

  • @thalesvieiradias2194
    @thalesvieiradias2194 10 місяців тому +2

    Forza looks like a mobile game

  • @ronaldomiguel-r6f
    @ronaldomiguel-r6f 10 місяців тому +1

    GT7 humiliated forza motorsport, Turn 10 should be ashamed, Polyphony did an excellent job, while Turn looks like an amateur!

  • @LLyra-vp1od
    @LLyra-vp1od 11 місяців тому +1

    Total shame for Forza!! Low polygon count of cars modeling, poor global illumination and washed colors. Where is the promise of Ray Tracing?. Anyone that says Forza is nextgen graphics is total joke!

  • @-mizmar
    @-mizmar 11 місяців тому +1

    GT7 wins for sure, graphics arent as good, Ai is stupid as f* and PC performance is garbage. "Build from ground up" will stick as meme for long time, same as for Starfield "Its next generation PC game" Thx god for the Gamepass, so we can try those games and see how lazy and incopetent the devs were... even if i play those games ill not give em money and buy it, untill they fix it.

  • @djwellttonster
    @djwellttonster 10 місяців тому +1

    *_Let’s appeal a little more? This video was made 3 weeks ago before this new Gran Turismo 7 update. GT7 Today, it's many times better than the GT7 of yesteryear because they're always constantly evolving, and even though this game is a "Cross Gen" game, it's managing to be a thousand times better at everything Forza Motor Sport or any racing game that exists._*

  • @adissounegus-nagast2640
    @adissounegus-nagast2640 11 місяців тому +4

    NO COMMENT !!!!

  • @tiger1chu
    @tiger1chu 11 місяців тому +4

    Built from the ground up and covered in bugs and glitches that makes it unplayable. Six years for them to make this unfinished game.

  • @4thManonCross
    @4thManonCross 11 місяців тому +1

    Gt7 is modelled after real life, by ppl passionate about cars,Forza the microsoft , we can do it too cash grab, since gran turismo makes so much money, is modelled after gt7, who else is waiting for microsoft to try & buy Sony for 300 billion

  • @ariasgamingcr
    @ariasgamingcr 11 місяців тому +6

    Bro please do a details comparison with Forza horizon 5 🙏

    • @GT7XART
      @GT7XART  11 місяців тому +5

      Sorry, I am not a Horizon 5 player. I will make relevant comparisons if I have a chance.

  • @novannurjaman5232
    @novannurjaman5232 10 місяців тому +1

    GT7 is soo good that some like me, bought a PS5 just for it...FM8? Just another forgetable software at this point

  • @infinityvetrox8120
    @infinityvetrox8120 10 місяців тому +1

    Man it's pure entertainment seing all these jealous Forza fanboys in the comments HAHAHAH

  • @IvanIVTerribile
    @IvanIVTerribile 10 місяців тому +2

    Gran turismo 7 tutta la vita !

  • @lucapellicciari7741
    @lucapellicciari7741 11 місяців тому +1

    Gt7 cross-gen ( ps4 & Ps5) destroy forza8 ( new-gen + ray tracing )

  • @DB-cs1fk
    @DB-cs1fk 11 місяців тому +1

    What system are you playing motoraport o because my seriesX looks nothing like what u are displaying as seriesx. There are no juggles, anti aliasing..? What when you are racing and take a pic or replay & take a pic or better yet painting & detailing it looks waaaaay better than what you are showing.

  • @mrburgermaster
    @mrburgermaster 8 місяців тому +1

    I played a little bit of GT7. The only bad thing really about it is how hard it is to make credits. The visuals are pure car porn.

  • @Slattt90
    @Slattt90 10 місяців тому +1

    Remember when gt7 first came out and every forza fanboy said wait till fm comes out 😂

  • @ST-online
    @ST-online 9 місяців тому +1

    GT7 has real manufacturer paint colours too it’s amazing

  • @filipbieniek9323
    @filipbieniek9323 11 місяців тому +1

    honestly whenever i hear build from ground up i know they are just lying

  • @Pharmboy6
    @Pharmboy6 10 місяців тому +1

    Why doesnt sun reflect off car in forza. Cars are rounded, so there should be at least 1 point that directly reflects sun. As seen in gt7.

  • @manicmodels3593
    @manicmodels3593 11 місяців тому +1

    Gt7 is far better in many categories, Forza is just like call of duty at this point

  • @Beer_zer_ker
    @Beer_zer_ker 10 місяців тому +1

    forza is still recycling 3d models from forza motorsport 2?

  • @Evangelical.
    @Evangelical. 10 місяців тому +1

    Funny how they hyped the realism in the new Motorsport, but the previous Motorsport had better graphics. Though it was turned down for driving

  • @initiald975
    @initiald975 11 місяців тому +1

    0:09-0:30 - Lol false advertizing, see the difference at 0:14 lol

  • @blizsgarage8487
    @blizsgarage8487 11 місяців тому +2

    Graphics between the two is night n day difference. GT7 still for me.

  • @Samurasa.
    @Samurasa. 11 місяців тому +1

    Gran Turismo 7 is a beast running in a PS5

  • @williamhayot5185
    @williamhayot5185 11 місяців тому +3

    Quand je pense que GT7 est un jeu "cross-gen" il n'est pas ridicule face à FM8 qui lui est "Full-next-gen".
    GT8 sera un jeu de nouvelle generation totale tout comme FM8 qui sera evolutif.

    • @DanielAlvarez-o6n
      @DanielAlvarez-o6n 10 місяців тому

      I dont speak french but understood you 100% 🤣

  • @wdowa94
    @wdowa94 10 місяців тому +8

    The fact that they made FM8 in just 5 months is impressive

    • @88boat
      @88boat 10 місяців тому

      you mean The fact that they RESOLD FH5 in just 5 months is impressive!!!?

  • @edsondossantos9566
    @edsondossantos9566 11 місяців тому +1

    Forzinha 👎 👎 👎 👎 👎 👎 😁😁😁😁😁😁

  • @eatdahl
    @eatdahl 11 місяців тому +4

    Its an unfair test really. Should compare forza to need for speed and compare gt7 to the actual real life P1.😂😂😂

    • @zekeaffy9647
      @zekeaffy9647 11 місяців тому

      Unfair? Both are in the same genre, its equal, also you know whats unfair actually? Forza M being on PC and GT7 not being on PC.

    • @eatdahl
      @eatdahl 11 місяців тому

      @@zekeaffy9647 im taking the piss you fool. Cant you tell?

  • @Runner74
    @Runner74 11 місяців тому +2

    La diferencia es obscena

  • @-The_Phantom
    @-The_Phantom 11 місяців тому +2

    Ain't no way this is real. I play GT7 btw, but I can't believe Forza Motorsport looks that bad. Like cmon, How Forza horizon 4 and 5 look incredible, both cars and scenery, but a closed track game like Motorsport looks like crap?

  • @josecamacho5522
    @josecamacho5522 10 місяців тому +1

    Real Racing 3 has better graphics hahaha