The Original Jojo Anime Was a Perplexing Cinematic Masterpiece

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  • @GabAssbreaker
    @GabAssbreaker 7 місяців тому +1774

    The reason the OVAS starts at the desert and not from the start of the story is because this wasn't meant for newer audience but for diehard JoJo fans who already have read the manga. The late chapters of Stardust Crusaders where by far the most popular and everyone wanted to see Dio, and with budget for only a bunch of episodes, it doesn't looks like the worst choice.

    • @dannyjingu
      @dannyjingu 6 місяців тому +139

      This is a case of "This was normal in the 80's and 90's." OVAs always confused me back then, because they would only cover a section of a storyline. I feel it was an odd marketing strategy, to both sell anime, while promoting the source material. I may be wrong on this, but I am pretty sure that was the case

    • @crimsondemonmegumin
      @crimsondemonmegumin 6 місяців тому +47

      ​@@dannyjingueven now the goal is rarely if ever to "sell anime" sure some profit will come from that but mostly to sell other things being, the source material, figures, games, and other peripherals

    • @atom373
      @atom373 4 місяці тому +2

      cool

    • @daze91
      @daze91 3 місяці тому +5

      No! La ragione è che Araki ha chiesto allo staff di trasporre in OVA gli episodi che ritenevano di loro gradimento e non per i "fanatici" del manga ma per emozionare un pubblico generico, basta che ti guardi l'intervista ad Araki nei dvd lo dice, ma è successo il contrario gli OVA sono diventati per i fanatici del manga!

    • @kaid8701
      @kaid8701 2 місяці тому +1

      Nope there is 2 ova parts you probably seen last one even it is available in UA-cam with first episode

  • @kamelo2219
    @kamelo2219 7 місяців тому +897

    I love how DIO in this series uses the world FOR ATTACKS sparingly. It really sells the fact he's overconfident in his own ability

    • @andrewd4438
      @andrewd4438 6 місяців тому +98

      For good reason, really - he seems to keep up with Star platinum without much trouble. Dio’s problem is he’s got no brains inside his head.

    • @rancorious7785
      @rancorious7785 5 місяців тому +42

      To be fair, he only starts doing that AFTER he gets crazy high on Joestar blood. It makes sense that he still mainly uses his stand in his base form because he's so confident in it's power that he doesn't rely on his vampire abilities except for regeneration. When he's high, he drops any bravado and just goes ape mode on Jotaro.

    • @rileykopinski6026
      @rileykopinski6026 4 місяці тому +4

      It could also be a good representation of how much energy it requires. Since even Dio who is immortal cannot use it repeatably.

    • @peekafch
      @peekafch Місяць тому

      The World is also ginormous compared to the other stands giving it that final boss feel even more.

  • @TaisonSphereNo.4
    @TaisonSphereNo.4 7 місяців тому +1096

    It still baffles me that SATOSHI KON of all people worked on the final battle

    • @Itariatan
      @Itariatan 7 місяців тому +124

      Not only that, that was what got him started in the first place. JoJo really is responsible for more than we realize

    • @ducklett01god
      @ducklett01god 7 місяців тому +50

      ​@@Itariatanjojo ks the second most influenial anime(Dragonball is 1st) especially in Japan it brought the western world to Japan just as how Dragonball brought japan to the us

    • @Itariatan
      @Itariatan 7 місяців тому +12

      @@ducklett01god Very well might be true. Dragon Ball is pretty cool, I love the Journey to the west inspiration

    • @ducklett01god
      @ducklett01god 7 місяців тому +9

      @@Itariatan it was a gag manga that turned into a cultural sensation

    • @midnightbat344
      @midnightbat344 6 місяців тому +1

      ​@@ducklett01godwrong numble one is joe yabuki do even know influent that anime is

  • @kath_nanaya6803
    @kath_nanaya6803 7 місяців тому +668

    fun fact, Charles Martinet voiced the senator in the english dub of the OVA!

    • @quinnsine1650
      @quinnsine1650 7 місяців тому +52

      Mama Mia!

    • @miimiibeschde4818
      @miimiibeschde4818 7 місяців тому +51

      Bro should've used the BLJ to evade timestop

    • @etonasama
      @etonasama 7 місяців тому +11

      Should've been recast for the David Pro dub.

    • @The_Blue_Otaku
      @The_Blue_Otaku 7 місяців тому +5

      @@quinnsine1650 Papa Pia Baby Got The Diarrhea!!!!!

    • @dane1382
      @dane1382 5 місяців тому +3

      "is it better to be born loud and bombastic, or to overcome your dark and gritty nature through great effort?"
      -the senator, probably

  • @huytungnguyen119
    @huytungnguyen119 7 місяців тому +397

    5:36 Explain a bit about that Aztec scene since you didn't know.
    That was an extensive adaptation of the Aztec prologue/Stone Mask origin from the very first pages of JoJo manga Part 1 Phantom Blood. In the manga it was the usual bombastic dialogues and poses. The 1993 OVA as seen above adapted it with more serious, dark gritty more historically authentic. The 2012 anime by David Production completely skipped this prologue and jumped straight to England Victorian era, only reference it in the Roundabout ED with the Aztec mural depicting the blood ritual. That's why most JoJo fans who started with the modern anime never heard of this Aztec scene.

    • @tomatostarz
      @tomatostarz 7 місяців тому +24

      there was a prologue 😭😭 ?? i did not know that wow

    • @hunterhollins512
      @hunterhollins512 6 місяців тому +17

      Comment I was looking for Lmaoo

    • @DripssopGaming
      @DripssopGaming 5 місяців тому +5

      @@hunterhollins512 same

  • @WarmNitrogen
    @WarmNitrogen 7 місяців тому +337

    I'm gonna say it.
    Jotaro vs DIO in the OVA is probably one of, if not the best anime battle I have ever seen

    • @CancelledMcCree
      @CancelledMcCree 5 місяців тому +15

      That fight scene alone is what got me into JoJo back in 2009

    • @GilTheArtAlien
      @GilTheArtAlien 5 місяців тому +26

      And my so-called friends say it was garbage compared to the new version despite never seeing the OVA because it's old. Unless a Jojo project gets a film grade budget, they will never have the quality cinematic animation that the OVA had.

    • @CancelledMcCree
      @CancelledMcCree 5 місяців тому +6

      @@GilTheArtAlien damn man, I’m sorry about that :/ you need better friends! Imo the part 3 anime wasn’t as faithful to the manga as most realize because the pacing was hot garbage imo. The ova was too quick BUT at least the animation was SSS tier!

    • @GilTheArtAlien
      @GilTheArtAlien 5 місяців тому +4

      @@CancelledMcCree If I hadn't saw the Kakyoin vs Dio fight on someone's stream one day, I would've never bothered picking up Jojo. That fight was so fluid compared to the stiffness in the new adaptation.

    • @RetroAlex125
      @RetroAlex125 5 місяців тому

      Try Sendo Vs Ipoo 2

  • @JaceAce22
    @JaceAce22 6 місяців тому +116

    Satoshi Kon's direction with Dio messing with the senator implies that he seamlessly turned the guy around as he ran, within stopped time, or he stopped time, got ourbof the car, lifted the car up and across the stree, opened the driver door then and opened the back seat door and sat down all cool like it was nothing.

    • @theraymunator
      @theraymunator 6 днів тому

      He most likely just used The World to lift him up and place him on the other side of the car

  • @TheLandBeforeBranden
    @TheLandBeforeBranden 5 місяців тому +83

    Cannot believe you didn't do a comparison of where Dio just completely blips from the frames in the OVA, that added a level of stress that the 2015 animation didn't match imo

    • @Mavuika_Gyaru
      @Mavuika_Gyaru 2 місяці тому

      I love the scene where the senator crawls out of the taxi only to crawl back in. Looks so much more trippy than a jump cut

  • @yureiotakughost9464
    @yureiotakughost9464 6 місяців тому +53

    The ova final fight is my favorite versions of it. Primarily because of how DIO was introduced, how he showed off his power without making it obvious, and how he actually used his vampire abilities in some pieces (He ran through a train ripping people apart for blood)

  • @ScrubbinOpti
    @ScrubbinOpti 7 місяців тому +603

    Time to re-upload my original comment. Gotta boost that algorithm.
    Say it with me now. While David Productions fills the background with dramatic music at all times, studio A.P.P.P willingness to sit in complete silence for several seconds at a time heightens the tension in quiet moments like these.

    • @MrValBar2
      @MrValBar2 7 місяців тому +9

      at least it's not as bad as Hunter x Hunter 2011

    • @xenogen372
      @xenogen372 7 місяців тому +50

      Honestly, DP's version is a product of modern anime. Look at the OG Dragon Ball anime and DBZ in Japanese, there's a lot more quiet moments before a fight starts.

    • @etonasama
      @etonasama 7 місяців тому +2

      One of the few things they did do better I would say.

    • @josesosa3337
      @josesosa3337 7 місяців тому

      I agree

    • @Dizerfullpower
      @Dizerfullpower 6 місяців тому

      It heightened the tension in Hol Horse fight so much I've had to drop it

  • @LittleTemplar98
    @LittleTemplar98 7 місяців тому +237

    This is probably not useful or interesting to a lot of people, but I whole-heartedly recommend watching this OVA with the french dub. It is without any hesitation my favourite piece of voice acting ever.
    It has THE BEST DIO and THE BEST POLNAREFF, absolutely nails the humor as well as some weird sexual tension from Dio at some points ? It's a bit strange at time like only old dubs can be, making it oddly hilarious while still being absolutely amazing. It definitely puts the actual japanese voices for it, or even a lot of modern dubs to shame !
    It's amazing and I cannot recommend it enough. Please, I beg of you : Go give it a listen !

    • @castor9907
      @castor9907 6 місяців тому

      The sexual tension was obviously intentional given he had massive bahonkers.

    • @dualApocalypses
      @dualApocalypses 6 місяців тому +15

      That polnareff is straight up my favorite interpretation of the character

    • @TheOnlyPedroGameplays
      @TheOnlyPedroGameplays 6 місяців тому +15

      One big plus is that the stands actually feel like they’re ghosts. They aren’t physical beings, and their colors are all well done. The 2015 anime uses very bad color choices especially for Star Platinum, and a golden wavy fire effect is put over EVERYTHING of importance to tell you that something is cool or powerful instead of letting the physical actions tell you that themselves.

    • @zephiask1758
      @zephiask1758 6 місяців тому +8

      When I imported part 8 back n the day I noticed, while there wasnt an english or german manga release back then, yet the french already had parts of jojolion translated. Therefore its kinda not suprising that the french dub of the ova is good haha

    • @imstupid880
      @imstupid880 5 місяців тому +2

      I'd be surprised if the French dub of Polnareff wasn't the best one

  • @Qtip290
    @Qtip290 7 місяців тому +125

    English OVA DIO has my favourite 'The World' in the series.

    • @horaciosi
      @horaciosi 6 місяців тому +6

      Andrew Chaikin was fantastic as DIO.

    • @windandfireproductions5358
      @windandfireproductions5358 5 місяців тому +7

      The japanese va for dio in these is underrated imo
      He sound truly creepy

    • @someguywithasword438
      @someguywithasword438 5 місяців тому +4

      ​@@windandfireproductions5358 based, Nobuo Tanaka deserves more love

    • @angelic_disappointment7889
      @angelic_disappointment7889 4 місяці тому +2

      @@someguywithasword438may he rest in peace as well

  • @AYVYN
    @AYVYN 6 місяців тому +42

    That Senator car scene was very well directed. Really fits the theme of Dio trolling with his stand to seem omnipotent.

    • @redraptor6749
      @redraptor6749 Місяць тому

      Another thing to add, DIO is fawking scary. The way that theres no indication that he even used his stand, the way his eyes glow in the dark like an apex predator, and the scene were hes holding the knife and he moves but the knife stays?... brilliant!

  • @peach_total
    @peach_total 6 місяців тому +24

    i remember seeing something about how satoshi kon was initially interested in cinema and decided to pursue animation because he could accomplish things he wouldn’t be able to (an example would be the FLAWLESS match-cuts at the beginning of Perfect Blue)

    • @swampjawn
      @swampjawn  6 місяців тому +2

      I'd believe it, based on his work!

  • @Humorless_Wokescold
    @Humorless_Wokescold 6 місяців тому +48

    90s anime and ovas really were a different breed. I still think about that 90s HxH scene where Chrollo is sitting in a car with Kurapika's team.

  • @demekagamine
    @demekagamine 7 місяців тому +207

    On the voice acting bit, genuinely the Italian dub of the OVA might be the best voice acting the OVA got.
    Unrelated, silver chariot having that gold trim in the OVA looks so good

    • @zebes04
      @zebes04 7 місяців тому +3

      concordo

    • @demekagamine
      @demekagamine 7 місяців тому +3

      Si fra

    • @etonasama
      @etonasama 7 місяців тому +7

      French Polnareff is peak tho.

    • @NotAcat0
      @NotAcat0 17 днів тому

      The french dub is incredible

  • @niceguy0080
    @niceguy0080 7 місяців тому +364

    The world ❌
    Ze waruldo ✔️

    • @Norbal.
      @Norbal. 4 місяці тому +8

      ZA WARUDO

  • @rebekahjohnson5940
    @rebekahjohnson5940 7 місяців тому +134

    Man this makes me wish we could find the phantom blood movie, I’d love to see the comparison for that one.

    • @wallcity318
      @wallcity318 6 місяців тому +30

      So in like 2007 or 08, i was living in korea at the time and they were doing a showing of it in japan and had a website with clips of it on there and i was on that site everyday but it was all in japanese. I literally wanted to catch a quick flight and try my luck but couldnt. I regret it to this day

    • @ezbucks_sapro5950
      @ezbucks_sapro5950 2 місяці тому +2

      @@wallcity318 missed opportunity man, Johnathan looks so awesome in the movie

    • @wallcity318
      @wallcity318 Місяць тому

      @@ezbucks_sapro5950 i know!!! Apparently it got bad reviews so they never released

  • @siergeplo1161
    @siergeplo1161 7 місяців тому +35

    Great video, man. Im so glad that someone finally analyzed this adaptation in detail

    • @swampjawn
      @swampjawn  7 місяців тому +3

      Glad you enjoyed it!

  • @stefanswiss3760
    @stefanswiss3760 7 місяців тому +73

    This original anime was incredible.
    back in the 90's, I was used to not get full series and getting almost random anime as people would exchange there collections through IRL meetings or postal method (having 2 VHS was essential to garnish your videotheque)
    Obviously I was happy to get a random episode of DBZ in japanese of the buu arc while in my country it was mid cell arc for instance.
    Seeing such an OAV given the context was great. Obviously I had no idea what it was about or what was the source material but just seeing the sheer talent on display, quality of animation, epicness of the fights was mind blowing.
    Later when I discovered the manga, I understood it was a bit different in tone yet I loved both.
    In the end when the anime came, I was underwhelmed as I felt it was not using the animation medium to its fullest, I thought it was lazy even (but probably if I had read the manga and didn't see the OVA I would have loved it)
    Thanks a lot, the analysis you made is on point and show exactly what I loved about the 90's OVA.
    Thanks for this work and the rest and hope for the best for the future of your channel

    • @swampjawn
      @swampjawn  7 місяців тому +11

      That's so interesting to hear the perspective of someone who actually saw it when it came out - I would definitely be disappointed by the animation in the 2013 version if I had seen the 90s one first!
      I'm glad you enjoyed the video, and thanks for the comment!

    • @stefanswiss3760
      @stefanswiss3760 7 місяців тому +14

      @@swampjawn just to give you the anecdote, we would write on our list some codes like
      2nd LD /PAL SECAM good = (2nd copy from a laser disc good image recorded in PAL SECAM)
      or 3rd VHS /NTSC blur (3rd copy of a VHS with the default of that era's technology)
      NTSC was notorious for not keeping the same color thus the format was know as "Never Twice The Same Color"
      We would get subbed anime, sometimes we would have no subs at all and very blurry image yet it felt like going on the black market and being part of an underground community (well that is exactly what it was). Never knowing what you were getting, always impressed by the creations, it hooked us and strong active community formed around that, the only difference I liked better is that we would much more often meet IRL with people to talk and exchange goods.
      That's a bit of nostalgia, I am just in my late 30's almost 40 but anyway maybe a bit pointless to write that but thanks to you I had the opportunity to share a bit of that time's way of life and sometimes anime is a great medium to observe the changes in human interactions and such, this is part of it.

    • @BeatEngine-qr7if
      @BeatEngine-qr7if 6 місяців тому +4

      That was the culture back then. Random fansubbed anime in the 90’s

    • @Tryedz
      @Tryedz 6 місяців тому +5

      I've seen this point being made before but older anime (80's and 90's) direction seems to have a lot of thought put into mood, with metaphors and stuff which often deviates from the source material but elevates it. You can see this here with Jojo's, Rurouni Kenshin, HxH just to cite a few examples. We seldom see this in newer anime, this luxury is now mostly in the movies. I'd rather have that than crazy 1337 sakuga face melting animation any day, any time.

  • @VoidStaresback
    @VoidStaresback 7 місяців тому +38

    When I first saw this OVA I wasn't ready for the artstyle...

  • @LowellLucasJr.
    @LowellLucasJr. 7 місяців тому +44

    So to add a little context, when the OVA episode 8 onward was made, in Japan, this was made solely for the Jojo fans. This is not meant to get anyone engaged who never knew what the manga was, and part 3 of the manga was a pretty big deal, as it was printed when Video Girl Ai and Cell Games was published in Jump at the time .

  • @mint_boy
    @mint_boy 6 місяців тому +11

    as an Egyptian I can confirm that the ova got Egypt more accurate than the manga and the 2015 anime

  • @downeastbeast6448
    @downeastbeast6448 5 місяців тому +7

    The 2000s OVA and the 90s episodes is what got me into Jojo in the first place.

  • @ZeallustImmortal
    @ZeallustImmortal 4 місяці тому +44

    Fun Fact: Armadillo shells can deflect bullets. In fact they often do. Every year people go to the hospital because they shot an Armadillo and the bullet deflected back and hit them.

    • @QarlYogurt
      @QarlYogurt Місяць тому

      Badass tough shit

    • @martti-cv6wg
      @martti-cv6wg Місяць тому +1

      @@QarlYogurt frfr

    • @greenknight9000
      @greenknight9000 Місяць тому +1

      Mighty doesn't fuck around

    • @Sockeye1
      @Sockeye1 Місяць тому

      One guy from Texas died because the bullet bounced back into his face

  • @alexandercarder2281
    @alexandercarder2281 7 місяців тому +24

    I loved how you mentioned the monster in a confined space and then you mentioned some films that have this setting. I wonder if the director was inspired by the film Tremors with Kevin Bacon. As the tremor monsters are sensitive to vibrations and that scene were they are trapped on top of that large rock in which they finally escape using those long rods as Pogo sticks. They are also in a desert 🏜️

  • @dodo-uz4ct
    @dodo-uz4ct 7 місяців тому +26

    The aztecs scene was from the first chapter of the manga ever. If I remember correctly.

    • @raghugba863
      @raghugba863 Місяць тому +1

      Yes, that's right. It's the very beginning of the manga, and a sort of explanation for what the stone mask does

  • @tokumillennium5162
    @tokumillennium5162 7 місяців тому +35

    It's nice to see this video came back

  • @fluffcake
    @fluffcake 6 місяців тому +12

    “An Oil Tanker for you” is when you go to the store to get some “Road Rolla Da” but they’re out so you get the next thing closest to it

  • @Wolf-f9
    @Wolf-f9 3 місяці тому +5

    One thing i love about the 93 version is the silence of the time stop in the butchers. Like he just poofs out of existence, no loud warping just gone.

  • @antonazizi137
    @antonazizi137 7 місяців тому +15

    It baffles me how you do not have at least 100k subs, your videos are so high quality and I really love seeing your attention to detail. You will become a big UA-camr, I feel it and it will happen this year. You deserve the best!!!!

  • @enlongjones2394
    @enlongjones2394 7 місяців тому +34

    That out of place sacrifice scene happened at the start of part 1 in the manga/david production anime. It’s meant to show the origins of the stone mask.

  • @imstupid880
    @imstupid880 5 місяців тому +19

    The way I always explain it is that the DP adaptation is translating straight from manga to screen. It has all the poses, all the panels, all the sound effects, all the haha funni memeable moments, but ends up being somewhat of a glorified motion comic/slideshow. The OVA is truly an adaptation: it gives up some of the character and style of the manga, and in exchange has an entirely serious take on the series with spectacular fight scenes and cinematography, like most shounen adaptations today. Ironically, I usually love straight from anime translations, and am not a huge fan of big shounen series, but in this case I do actually prefer the OVAs to the DP animes.

    • @user-pi1lb4tf2f
      @user-pi1lb4tf2f 5 місяців тому +8

      I disagree. The OVA was pandering to its audience. Jojo has been flambouyant since its serialization but the OVA removed those moments in favour of edgier "90s" style, with hyperviolence that didn't capture the original manga's tone. Araki wasn't afraid to make his men sensitive and "beautiful" so why should the adaptation suddenly make it like berserk. DP's adaptation is not only loyal to the source material but they captured what Jojo is. It's a colorful world of bizarre events happening around the joestar bloodline. They can be goofy and emotional in one scene then serious and badass to the next. Even without the memes, Jojo is a story deemed to be witness because it's just good. Even fans would grow to love Jotaro more as he start expressing himself more in the latter parts than with his stoic stature in the psrt where he is the main character. And how can you discredit DP's integrity as a studio when they are showing love with just the opening alone. How it changes its scenes to retell the epic saga in a minute and a half opening sequence. And add to that the great music and voice acting. The OVA's voice acting is subpar compared to DP's VA work whether it's dub or sub. The OVA is just garnering popularity now because we've seen how magnificent the final product is that is DP's adaptation and the OVA is one of those "learning" moments where any Jojo part shouldn't be "adapted" that way, that is too far from the visions of the source material.

  • @TheFreakDownStreet
    @TheFreakDownStreet 7 місяців тому +22

    Honestly, dropping someone in the deep end of JoJo doesn’t seem like that bad of an idea, so long as the adaptation gives some basic context and exposition. That of course, didn’t happen here, but I think it may he possible.

  • @zorochii
    @zorochii 7 місяців тому +12

    Oh Jojo OVAs were the first thing I watched of Jojo. I wish the rest was more like them. But JoJo is still kinda good, especially part 4 and 2.

  • @IAMA1
    @IAMA1 3 місяці тому +2

    I didn't expect such a high quality video comparing both adaptations but damn, this was great!!!
    Personally, I do think you could've mentioned at least once the difference between the amount of movement you can typically achieve in TV anime vs OVAs, especially since the DavidPro anime is a 2 season, 2 cour show that aired weekly and the A.P.P.P. anime is a 6 episode show that only had to worry about a single release. Though the way the new anime moves still comes down to creative decisions, a show of that length and release schedule pretty much has to rely on limited animation techniques more than OVAs, especially when compared to notoriously lavish looking 80s and 90s OVAs.
    You did sorta mention this when saying "in 90s OVA fashion" when describing a beautiful cut, but reminding people of this distinction between types of productions more explicitly helps keep this context in mind.
    Small nitpick, but that's all I can really critique with this great video.

  • @valid47
    @valid47 7 місяців тому +13

    6:08 fun fact, this image is actually originally from the first manga panel in Jjba. It got cut out of the anime when phantom blood got animated but it actually provided good context to how the stone masks originated when I was reading the manga

  • @SorcererLance
    @SorcererLance 6 місяців тому +9

    45:08 - Lighting.
    Yellow light + red shirt = what we perceive to be orange.

  • @thequacker
    @thequacker 7 місяців тому +12

    YESSSS I'VE BEEN WAITING FOR THIS VIDEO!!!

  • @harryvpn1462
    @harryvpn1462 6 місяців тому +8

    The first half of the OVAs they released later is also good asf, I really liked the new story they wrote

  • @lumixhd23
    @lumixhd23 Місяць тому +2

    The funny thing is. The first time I watched part three from 2015 I watched the second half before I knew the first half existed.
    And to be honest. I didn’t question it a bit.

  • @sonicfoamyfan9805
    @sonicfoamyfan9805 7 місяців тому +7

    You didn't mention the part where DIO flaunts the world in front of Jotaro and how in the OVA he literally blips out of existence before our eyes compared to the 2015 version that has added effects and sounds

  • @limegreen000
    @limegreen000 7 місяців тому +5

    Sending some love your way! This was really fun to watch even for someone who only knows jojo through anime osmosis (and also someone who adores the style of 90s anime), would love to see more along the lines of this!

  • @voltsiano116
    @voltsiano116 6 місяців тому +3

    22:10
    I think this bit works better in the Japanese version - the pacing of the words is more natural. And maybe this is a personal thing, but I actually enjoy the lack of music, as it gives a chance for the visuals and dialogue to stand on their own feet.

  • @tuiteyfruity5010
    @tuiteyfruity5010 7 місяців тому +3

    I’ve never felt a desire to watch jojo but I’m watching this because your videos are good and I like learning about things even if I haven’t seen them myself

  • @monodragoon
    @monodragoon 7 місяців тому +83

    The best way I can market the OVA is that the OVA kind of turns Jojo's into Dragon Ball and it works.

    • @etonasama
      @etonasama 7 місяців тому +2

      Wow, Dragon Ball is this mundane and uninteresting-looking?

    • @MaxiemumKarnage
      @MaxiemumKarnage 7 місяців тому +8

      What?

    • @panthekirb7561
      @panthekirb7561 7 місяців тому +25

      ​@@etonasamakid thinks he is cool and edgy

    • @panter8895
      @panter8895 6 місяців тому +3

      ​@@etonasamaIt already is compared to JoJo

    • @Fall-oo6mt
      @Fall-oo6mt 6 місяців тому +10

      ​@@panter8895lol no
      both are good

  • @cc_tw
    @cc_tw 6 місяців тому +4

    The OVA introduced me to Jojo's Bizarre Adventure, and I was HOOKED! Better to watch it with the original Japanese voice acting though

  • @eldrazigirl
    @eldrazigirl 5 місяців тому +3

    The oil tanker replacing the road roller and making a big fiery explosion calls back to Part 1 in a way I really like. In all of the major Jonathan vs Dio fights, Jonathan represented fire to Dio's ice - setting his mansion on fire, punching Dio while is hand is on fire, and setting fire to the boat to sink Dio once and for all. As iconic as the road roller is, the oil tanker calls back to Jonathan one last time before Dio dies.

  • @jemleye
    @jemleye 5 місяців тому +3

    Even if I don't enjoy Jojo I am so happy for you that this video keeps growing, slowly but surely, standing out against the Delicious in Dungeon content. So happy to see that you're not going to be relegated to a one hit wonder after season 1 finishes in few days. Can't wait for more deep dives on different anime and animation!

  • @elec8t277
    @elec8t277 7 місяців тому +9

    Re-commenting:This video is amazing Edited for someone who was at 300 subs.Keep it up,amazing work!

  • @PizzaPuncher2
    @PizzaPuncher2 7 місяців тому +12

    Wish you would've talked about the final goodbye at the airport between Jotoro, Joseph, and Polnareff in the last episode. I really feel that it's done better in the OVA than it is in the anime.
    When they share the manly hug, Jotoro sheds a tear, like actually cries while saying "Nobody could ever forget a guy like you, even if they really wanted to... Take care now" to Polnareff. It really got emotional and as far as I know, Jotoro crying didn't happen in the manga or anime cannon so it's obviously an addition.
    If anyone is curious about the scene I'm talking about:
    ua-cam.com/video/yAhAr6fbCMA/v-deo.htmlsi=wqaCC8fzhIhttYkn
    Airport scene starts at 30:46
    Jotoro's manly tears start at 32:28

  • @theguy3016
    @theguy3016 6 місяців тому +10

    the Aztec scene was the intro from part 1

  • @TheJimmys11
    @TheJimmys11 6 місяців тому +2

    2:39 A full explanation for this: This is explained (I think) in part 3, but the in-world explanation for stands not existing until part 3 is that basically in 1986, a few Stand arrows were discovered that grant people Stands once they are wounded by them. Some way or another these arrows fell into the hands of people around the world like Diavolo, Enya, Keicho Nijimura, and they used them to draw out people's stands (e.g. Enya used it on DIO to get the World, Diavolo used it on his gang members, etc.). Because of these few individuals, the population of Stand-users worldwide grew exponentially after 1986. Dio didn't invent stands, he just brought them to our attention. Technically Stands existed the whole time from part 1.

  • @eldritchkaiju5829
    @eldritchkaiju5829 4 місяці тому +2

    The sacrifice scene is actually in the part 1 manga, it’s the very first scene in the entirety of JJBA in fact

  • @FunnySuitGuy
    @FunnySuitGuy 7 місяців тому +6

    The funny part is that Dio in the English dub does not even have a British accent.

  • @vivipiresinacio
    @vivipiresinacio 7 місяців тому +8

    The animation of the final fight is straight up better than the 2015 version! Like you said the cinematography is incredible. The score and the soundless timestops completely change the tone, for the better imo.

  • @junowasmad1
    @junowasmad1 7 місяців тому +4

    subscribed for the dungeon meshi animation breakdowns, this video is a pleasant surprise! great video essay!

  • @ChrisDeve
    @ChrisDeve 5 місяців тому +2

    Good job on the video! It has been many years since I've seen the OVA's and it's nice seeing the changes and the memorable scenes pointed out. That being said I will have to conclude: the older version fails as an adaptation where the new one does not.
    You can appreciate the animation quality, the directing artistry and changes that show the strengths of the medium, but despite any differences an adaptation should at the very least capture the spirit of the original, and the OVA's certainly do not. I do not care how much you like long silent scenes and understanding of camerawork, silence and realism is the last thing people think of when bringing up JoJo of all things. David Productions, while also being restrained by budget and having to opt for choppy animation and a lot of panel-by-panel adapting, brings the intensity and flair that the series is known for. It is this approach that boosted the series into further popularity this past decade.
    Not to nag on the old one too much. Glad the people who worked on these have moved on to use their talents on later projects.

  • @grantus_pax
    @grantus_pax 7 місяців тому +72

    as a guy who skipped a bunch of episodes in the middle of season 3 to get to the damn dio fight already, i gotta hand it to the ova

    • @etonasama
      @etonasama 7 місяців тому +9

      I would say you missed out on some funny scenes then.

    • @maximyllion
      @maximyllion 7 місяців тому +5

      stardust crusaders is so fucking long for no reason

    • @etonasama
      @etonasama 7 місяців тому +9

      @@maximyllion They're literally traveling a long distance through the world.

    • @johndude2499
      @johndude2499 6 місяців тому +15

      What’s the point of even watching if you skip to the end ?

  • @BigDorkus
    @BigDorkus Місяць тому

    Seeing how the OVA was able handle suspense and eerie-ish atmospheres really well as seen in the Geb, Strength's ship, Justice's city, and (in my honest opinion) Vanilla Ice's chase, there are a couple fights I wish they had done with this style. Yellow Temperance, Death 13, and Anubis were such missed opportunities in my humble opinion.
    Also the reason I say that the Vanilla Ice chase is decently handled is one simple reason. Fear of the unknown. Outside of one or two scenes, Cream is entirely hidden, with every attack being sudden and destructive, it leads to a kind of perfect panic of a chase.

  • @Nkanyiso_K
    @Nkanyiso_K 7 місяців тому +7

    The Masterpiece is back 🙌🏾 ❤

  • @dannyjingu
    @dannyjingu 6 місяців тому +4

    I saw these back in 1996 at a theater in the UW Seattle. I felt like the dark tones, were the studio trying to get the HNK fans roped in. It worked because I fell in love with the series.

  • @DrawQuick2014
    @DrawQuick2014 6 місяців тому +3

    Doing just the best bits of part 3 was a W

  • @ijbdawg9
    @ijbdawg9 4 місяці тому +1

    Well the Aztec scene at the start of ep 1 was literally the first few pages of ch1 of part 1. It introduces the ancient stone mask that made Dio into a vampire, this kicking off this whole shebang. I figured it’d be nice to let u know.

  • @evad__1131
    @evad__1131 4 місяці тому +1

    I love the og so much cause dio is always in a consistent mewing streak along with everyone else🗿💀

  • @dominicpiovesan1715
    @dominicpiovesan1715 6 місяців тому +1

    The way jotaro yeets iggy un the 93 version is so violent it gets me every time

  • @jonathanbanning9558
    @jonathanbanning9558 5 місяців тому +2

    The absolute lack of effects on dios time stop makes it so much fucking scarier than it should be

  • @vitriolicAmaranth
    @vitriolicAmaranth Місяць тому

    I can't believe the original anime adaptation cut the scene where Kakyoin lays this egg

  • @CoolyCools
    @CoolyCools Місяць тому +2

    Anime: ROADO ROLLER DA!!!!!
    OVA: _an oil tank for you~_

  • @fink_rat
    @fink_rat 5 місяців тому +1

    Time for my comment from the original:
    The differences in color palette between the modern anime and the OVA also have their own charm into how they portray the scene. Particularly with Time Stop.
    In the OVA, as DIO stops time, a bright red washes over the screen like blood as everything flashes to a halt. In stopped time, everything remains normally visually but just frozen. It leans into the foreign nature of The World, being unnatural and unnerving that someone has the ability to slow time to a complete halt. And back to the flash, it almost feels like DIO's using his stand to influence time itself, even if for a limited time.
    In the anime, by comparison, when DIO freezes time everything slows down to a crawl and everything not in motion is greyed out. It conveys the message that only DIO has this ability, that nobody else could invade his World. And the anime does foreshadow Jotaro gaining time stop shortly before he does, using what I said earlier. In the moment DIO throws the knife that kills Joseph, we get a shot of Jotaro staring directly at Joseph, and the thing that stands out the most in this shot are Jotaro's eyes being colored in, signifying that he can see what happens during DIO's time stop. It already sets up that Jotaro has something in store that even he doesn't know about.
    If I had to pick one style, I'd have to go for the anime for story telling alone, but the OVA's uncanny feel would feel right at home in a horror anime.

  • @vincentforrester4621
    @vincentforrester4621 5 місяців тому +2

    Look at Avdol OVA vs 2015 adaptation, his Magician Red was scary and the flames he'd produce would crisp Dio like a piece of overfried KFC

  • @CancelledMcCree
    @CancelledMcCree 5 місяців тому +1

    My best friend’s brother introduced me to JoJo back in 2009 through the Jotaro vs Dio OVA fight. Little did they know I would become a huge diehard & read through all 8 parts (part 8 was only a year old when I started it) by late 2012. Read. The. Mango.

  • @MajoraZ
    @MajoraZ 7 місяців тому +5

    I'm actually of the opinion that it's better to watch two OVAs BEFORE the anime or Part 3's manga: The OVAs focusing so much more on horror and tension disproportionately benefits a first time viewing when you don't know what's going to happen (the Strength and Justice fights are the best example of this, they are so much better in the OVA, which is why it's a bit surprising to me you only covered the second, or I guess actually first half, here), and since the OVA cuts out so much you'll still have a lot of new content to take you by surprise when you watch the anime or read the manga. And as you allude to, I also greatly prefer how the OVA's depict DIo's timestop abilities before it's revealed how it works: Both the staircase sequence, the bit with the senator, etc is totally seameless, and it comes off as warping reality almost. The anime just actually showing people or Dio instantly "teleporting" is a lot less interesting.
    Also as a Mesoamerican history and archeology nerd who helps youtubers with their videos on the topic, I am compelled to point out that JJBA's handling of the Aztec is pretty typically bad and not that accurate, with grey, drab bare masonry and people just sort of half naked in big headdresses. Doesn't hold a candle to Tenochtitlan being basically the Hanging Gardens of Babylon mixed with Venice's canals with gorgeously painted buildings close to Minoan palaces, and men with colorful togas/mantles and women with almost geisha-like flowing blouses, hair-buns, and painted faces.Highly recommend artwork by Scott and Stuart Gentling's paintings, the Chibi style art done by Nosuku-K, and the various portraits and fashion infographs done by Zotzcomic/Kamazotz, OHS688, Rafael Mena, etc if you want a taste of how garishly colorful and beautiful Mesoamerican architecture and fashion was really like!

  • @AwesomeDr111
    @AwesomeDr111 7 місяців тому +7

    I hope people one day get their hands on that lost Phantom Blood movie. It seems a bit grittier than the anime we have now like a proper vampire story and having part 1 condensed into a single movie might smooth out a lot of its pacing issues. Only piece of lost media I'm excited to get unearthed one day.

  • @YTHandlesBlow
    @YTHandlesBlow 6 місяців тому +2

    Neat, I find it amusing you keep jumping to the dubbed version of 90's and the subbed version of the new one. I remember watching the 90's version subbed as a kid around the time I watched digimon on TV, the subbed 90's version had different sound takes then the dubbed version and didnt have the echo'y sound when Dio yelled "ZA WORLD" but then again Im going mainly off of my own memory so take it with a grain of salt. I'll have to rewatch the older subbed version for confirmation haha

  • @mycology5242
    @mycology5242 6 місяців тому

    I was like, ‘wait, I watched this’ but your video is so good I just had to watch the whole thing again.
    Great analysis and editing, love the little bits of animation(esp walk cycle

  • @AllTheOthers
    @AllTheOthers 7 місяців тому +2

    The JoJo OVA at times looked like a low budget Satoshi Kon production-... Oh, I just got to that part of the video. That's my favorite director.

  • @GreyIsTheBestColour
    @GreyIsTheBestColour 2 місяці тому +1

    why are 90's ovas so good

  • @Green-3c34y65vrbu
    @Green-3c34y65vrbu 6 місяців тому +2

    5:38 I mean, it's literally chapter 1, so I don't see how it's "unrelated". though I agree it doesn't really fit, makes more sense to show DIO's return from the underwater grave. repeating it every time is also really annoying, lol so i agree on that.

  • @Draconis_Eltanin
    @Draconis_Eltanin 7 місяців тому +5

    I am sad I can't suppert you on patreon, but I can still wish you best of luck and I hope it is successful.
    Also, cool breakdown again: keep up the great work. I hope there will be enough stuff to talk about in Dorohedoro S2.

    • @swampjawn
      @swampjawn  7 місяців тому

      All good, I'm just glad to have you here!

  • @STEPHxCA
    @STEPHxCA 7 місяців тому +2

    I wish they used that Meso american sacrifice scene from the manga in the David Productions adaptation. Gives more context regarding the stone mask

  • @georgeferetatis1040
    @georgeferetatis1040 7 місяців тому +4

    SOOOOO GOOD. LOVE THE VID

  • @FrancisL4D
    @FrancisL4D Місяць тому

    The ova is so good, It was my Introduction to jojo, It will always have a special place in my heart.

  • @skyrogue1977
    @skyrogue1977 7 місяців тому +3

    How many first saw the Jojo Ova’s from Antfish’s JoJo Abridged series?

  • @williambrown4138
    @williambrown4138 6 місяців тому +3

    I have no idea why my substitute elementary teacher showed us this, but I don't regret the experience. It felt like the video he showed us was meant only to take notes though because it would jump around so much.

  • @EnoYaka
    @EnoYaka 7 місяців тому +2

    good comparison, thanks for the upload.

  • @part2jotaroandpals567
    @part2jotaroandpals567 5 місяців тому +1

    I actually have a few animation cels from this ova. The first one is of Dio kneeling over Joseph right before he sucks his blood during the final battle. And the second one is of jotaro putting on his hat after Iggy Retrieves it after the battle with N’douhl

  • @elmars123
    @elmars123 3 місяці тому +1

    13:52 Kakyoin uhh ahh Kakyoin, its so bad that cought my off guard. hilarious

  • @Frankie-kn3vg
    @Frankie-kn3vg 7 місяців тому +4

    Isn't the Aztec scene a homage to the similar sequence in the phantom blood manga? It wasn't adapted in the 2012 anime

  • @fantasmatice999
    @fantasmatice999 5 місяців тому +1

    Even though it doesn't really make sense for Joseph to have blond hair, I do think that it works really well with his purple costume. Since, ya' know, purple and yellow are a perfect colour combination.

  • @nataliasonia8491
    @nataliasonia8491 7 місяців тому +3

    great video as always

  • @th3r0d
    @th3r0d 6 місяців тому +2

    "Whoa! Fuck!...This is a family channel!" funny, insightful, and well done

  • @holydezmondgamez1728
    @holydezmondgamez1728 7 місяців тому +3

    Will you do more videos on JoJo? Honestly before COVID I never got into it but since marathoning the anime in 2021 I just love the series. Been watching a shit ton of videos on it

  • @Coal_XVII
    @Coal_XVII 5 місяців тому

    Can we talk about HOW SMOOTH the animation is on the OVA

  • @LUX711
    @LUX711 6 місяців тому +1

    I didn’t even know an original version of the anime existed 🤣 this is why anime as a whole is great 🤌🏼

  • @OtaKing77077
    @OtaKing77077 5 місяців тому +1

    Why on Earth would you undercut your own video and all the work you put into it by using the absolutely subpar English dub?
    Apart from that, some really good analysis of the animation techniques and grounded realism of the 90s OVA. I'm biassed because it's easily my favourite piece of JoJo's media and what got me into the series in the first place. Us mid 90s western anime fans had no way of even knowing the manga existed, so seeing this masterpiece fansubbed at conventions truly was B I Z Z A R E.

    • @swampjawn
      @swampjawn  5 місяців тому +2

      I can't explain it but to me the terrible english dub is just part of the experience for old shows like this. Anything from the 90s just feels right with the weird-ass stilted dialogue XD

  • @GuitarHeroKing55
    @GuitarHeroKing55 5 місяців тому +1

    the intro to episode 1 is the intro to the first volume of the manga

  • @itsdom492
    @itsdom492 2 місяці тому

    i bearenstein bears-ed myself by watching this video a few months ago and starting my jojo marathon a few weeks ago. I was sitting there waiting for the senator to run out of his car and back into his car and it didn't happen. i need to watch the OVA sometime, especially with the David Production series fresh in my mind.

  • @ros9764
    @ros9764 6 місяців тому +1

    From what i've read online, they removed the road roller and replaced it with an oil tanker because the road roller itself is a refrence to a different manga series that was popular at the time the OVA was airing. I guess they wanted to make JoJo more unique or not be called out for copying from a different source or something

  • @fishsticxz
    @fishsticxz 7 місяців тому +1

    i knew nothing about jojo before watching this video. now, i still dont know anything except that the original jojo anime was a perplexing cinematic masterpiece