Some Thoughts on Jimmy Fallon
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- Опубліковано 27 сер 2024
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jiminy krimble!
My favorite one 😌
Jim Kibble
Criminy jim-jam.
Baby Bibble
Jimberly Kimble
Side note about Jimmy Fallon: there were some pretty damning allegations that came out against his former SNL costar Horatio Sans last year related to grooming and sexually assaulting a minor in the past, and based on the victim's statements, it was obvious that Jimmy and the other cast members knew about this "relationship" as it was happening back in the early 2000s. Obviously this is not related to the current controversy around Jimmy's show and the work environment, but I'm definitely not going to trust a guy who watched his friend/coworker "date" a high schooler and didn't say anything about it.
It wasn’t about grooming. It was about Horacio raping an underage girl. They were not in a relationship. He assaulted her. I heard about it and was shocked and grossed out. It then quickly disappeared as if someone paid to keep it hushed as possible.
Almost always pedophillia when a famous person breaks the law, isn't it? But since it's SNL, it's for a given value of famous, of course.
Yea it sucks Jimmy got a pass on that and seems to still be getting a pass...
As someone who was a teenager when Jimmy Kimmel was hosting "the man show", the concept that he'd be the last Jimmy standing is pretty wild
JK’s time on the man show has always annoyed me and makes me take a lot of his schitck with a grain of salt.
However, now that I am an adult and re-watched a few early eps of the man show, I realized that I was too young during the original airing to realize that the Man Show was basically doing what the Colbert Report would do years later to conservatives. Gross toxic assholes who thought they were being “seen” by the Man Show didn’t get that the show was designed to mock them, just how conservatives wholly bought that Stephen Colbert was the conservative response to Jon Stewart.
However the joke was too ahead of its time, and sadly TMS did become the gross misogynistic show many believed it to be, but by that point JK had bounced, only for Joe Rogan to take his place.
I just wish JK actually acknowledged his time on TMS to set the record straight because the more the pretends it didnt happen, the more it comes off imo that his current liberal/male feminist behavior is performative.
And look, I am all for people acknowledging crappy things they did in the past, I am all for ppl growing, but it’s just annoying to be that JK tries for sincerity while ignoring an elephant in the room
@@martidodger7106 Holy crap I forgot that Joe Rogan took over... thanks so much for the reply, I feel like I need to do a video essay about this now or something
I genuinely thought The Man Show was a fever dream that only I remembered.
I think fans of the show didn’t understand it was a parody. I think that’s why he quit it when he saw it attracted misogynists 😅
I saw it maybe twice. Hated it. No idea it was a parody (and I teach Lit). So if no one knows its a parody then it aint a parody, its just meanness. Took me years to watch Kimmel bc of it. When he did the monologue about his son Billy born w a heart defect, then I started to like him.
Good ole O'Brien is my fav forever. He jokes about being terrible and is snarky but everyone seems to love him, and working for him. He's had a lot of the same staff for a long time including his assistant.
Yup. Freaking love Conan. There’s an air of authenticity that not many others have been able to hit upon. Although I do enjoy Colbert, John Stewart and Seth Meyers. Conan just feels like grown up comedy compared to the Jimmy’s surface level feel. (To put it crudely)
Conan paid some of his employees out of his own pocket when he was between networks or something like that. I can't remember when it was exactly, but he is an absolute guy and I adore him.
Team COCO forever. I have known many who work in the late night industry and never heard bad things. I absolutely know countless stories about Fallon though from awful to criminal.
And I second Jordan Slansky. I think he’s a fellow autistic person 😊
@@ArgyleDinosaurI mean, he can afford it. I used to like Bill Maher, but he’s become more conservative with age which most old rich white men do.
6:54 she’s half right. Your employer is not your nana’s lap. That is very true. It’s is a place of business and professionalism is key.
But she seems to forget that the following things are *also not professional*:
-intimidation
-harassment
-bullying
-retaliation
You forget Megyn Kelly is a conservative commentator. It's their job to be cruel and insensitive.
rooting for a drew gooden collab for you one day man. it'll be like watching twins
Never thought about it like that but you’re so right
As a nurse it will never fail to amaze me that there are some who are truly unaware that mental health controls what you do. No matter who you are.
Some have disorders in which it interrupts their ability to function. But if you think you are truly in control of your thoughts and actions, you are clearly completely unaware that that need for control....comes from your mental health makeup.
At the end of the day it all boils down to chemical reactions, that lack of control is terrifying and many fight against MH awareness because it would make them face the fact that you aren't in control of much in life truly. Psychosis and dementia doesn't care who you are and can come on at any time. No amount of willpower will stop that.
Get over it and learn empathy.
Yes!!! People don’t seem to understand that things like psychosis can make you do and say things you would never ever say otherwise. It’s not “revealing who they actually are, and their real beliefs”. If you have that little empathy you better count yourself lucky you’re not the one experiencing those mental states, and that if you ever do, because you can’t choose wether or not it happens to you, that there people who are going to be more empathetic toward you than you’ve been to others.
It's so frightening when people support the point that 'it's your workplace, they are not there to make you feel good', yeah Karen, but I do better work when I am not constantly frightened to be screamed at for breathing wrong, therefore I am of better value to the workplace. I am not a punchingbag for my boss since I am the one working so he can make as much money as he does. Basic humanity and a supportive workplace makes people work better and actually results in them being ok with overtime when it's needed or helping out if needed because they actually like the place they work at and the coworkers and bosses.
Stress and a horrible environment results in people getting sick more often and are not able to come in. (Even tough in the US that is a whole f-ed up problem in and of itself with limited sick days and whatnot.)
If my boss breaks my leg because he is in a bad mood noone would be ok with that, but if he triggers panic attacks and stress related illnesses, because he can explode at any time, that's me being a snowflake that just needs to toughen up? Yeah makes sense...
I think it's a self report tbh, they themselves may get kicks out of being horrible to staff
@gmc5618 It ALWAYS is. If you (general you) have to constantly make everyone aware of how "unbothered" you are, and how it's the "liberal cuckold snowflakes getting triggered all the time" that are the "real problem with society"... then the call is most likely coming from inside the house!
@gmc5618 I literally see this shit all the time at my place of work! Conservatives wearing shirts and baseball caps (or snapbacks) loudly proclaiming that they love God, Guns, and Freedom as much as they hate everyone who's not like them as well as "Cancel Culture" (Accountability Culture, but they don't like that term because they can't victimize themselves) and "Safe Spaces" - and I just have to laugh and roll my eyes because it's the equivalent of knowing an average white dude with an oversized lifted truck with chrome spoilers Frankensteined to the vehicle with an American Flag and a "Tr*mp 2020/2024 MAGA" flag waving out the back as he drives down the street is overcompensating for his fragile masculinity and tiny penis. Only with those lunatics in the shirts and hats, they're more likely overcompensating for their own insecurities. It's pretty sad and pathetic because these people who don't believe in mental health or therapy are the ones who need it most. Of course they're not going to willingly seek treatment out of stubborness and/or ignorance.
the employees are the babies for disliking when their boss throws temper tantrums like a toddler
i've heard rumours about jimmy's potential alcoholism for a while, and i can say from experience it's a disease that hurts the people around you as much as it hurts the person affected. i can definitely see someone with an alcohol problem creating a toxic work environment. if it's true, i hope he gets the help he needs and is able to build a better environment for the people around him. more importantly, i wish you luck in your presidential campaign #harry2024
Speaking of which, my mother and I had watched a few episodes of The Tonight Show Starring Jimmy Fallon some years back and one of the observations she made was that he seems to not be able to get through his show without drinking alcoholic beverages. I think she was spot on. 😔
Lotta stories about him in bars. Not sure how his wife handles the sitch. 2 little girls. Alcohol is a bad drug. I was 34 when I quit drinking a fifth and a pint of vodka every dayyyy. 32 years ago now. I recommend weed instead. Quitting is hard af. But if I could do it, anyone can do it. One day at a time, JF.
the drew gooden excerpt 😂😂 because it applies
I love this editing here 4:35 where you say quite calmy and matter-of-factly "they all have clear point of views that will alienated some people" while giant text appears specifying "conservatives and jay leno" 😂
Let's not forget that he's long time friends with Horatio Sanz, a man who has disturbing SA and grooming accusations against him. From a Jane Doe who, at the time, was underage. In fact many former SNL members like Fallon and Tracy Morgan were incriminated. As well as Loren Michaels, the CREATOR of SNL. I've seen hardly anyone mention this outside of a few channels. And most news outlets were covering it when it was settled.
ive been to two late night show tapings, one for fallon and one for john oliver. it was really really early in the life of last week tonight so the atmosphere was very casual, john engaged w the audience before/between segments, everyone had fun. fallon treated the audience like a brick wall. couldnt care less. if joan rivers wasnt one of the guests that day, whole experience wouldve sucked (they had to cut out 90% of her jokes for tv though)
I remember when joan rivers came on UK TV (onto basically a UK version of The View) and she didnt realise UK live TV doesnt run with a delay, so they cant beep out any swearwords or comments. She was shouting about C*nts on daytime TV. It was comedy gold. But some miserable sod decided she couldnt come back on after the adverts because of it
An online friend was at a party with John Oliver. He was incredibly fun, she said. It was nice/weird because in the pictures he was so relaxed and laughing, no suit or tie. He looked younger, he needed a haircut. I’m glad he got to unwind between facing politics.
I had a friend see Rachael Ray who said the same thing. Couldn't care less about the audience. Was super friendly when the camera was on, totally ignored them when it was off. I wonder what working with her is like!
Tina Feys book tells a story about Amy Poehler. She was making everybody laugh backstage at SNL, maybe being a little bawdy. And Jimmy Fallon said STOP IT, you’re not being cute!! And Amy Poehler wheeled around and looked right at him and growled IM NOT HERE TO BE CUTE or something like that.
It just confirmed for me that he’s a spoiled, unfunny person.
Why wasn't he there to be cute? Oh that's right, he's wholly unlikeable and a pos. No one wsnts that.
i do love to ask questions, but i ALSO love to question things. i'm just complicated like that
“our jimmies were rustled, down to two” so good
yesss 2009 late night TV solidarity. my fave was Craig ferguson. do you remember during the 12 days of christmas when they were exchanging gifts and he sent his dancing horse secretariat to Jimmy's show? literally the peak of comedy for a 14 yr old
was really worried that youtuber and fashion icon Harry James Miller was gonna stay silent on this. glad to see he’s intervening
Side note: HR is NEVER on the employee's side. Ever. In any industry.
15:25 I hope nothing comes out ever about Seth Myers as well because Corrections rocks my socks too :')
jackal pride!!
I'm a brit that lives in canada, but I'll vote for you for president :3
A true patriot, RIDE ON SOLDIER 🇺🇲💪💪🦅
wholeheartedly agree! glad to hear on the employee's behalf about the all-hands meeting the next day. Jimmy taking ownership and apologizing for his behavior is def a good step forward, so I am optimistic as an outsider. I wish there existed other mechanisms of reporting workplace issues besides company HR departments, who ultimately will work to quell issues for the good of the company and not its employees.
Conan was my gateway into late night talk shows. My mom would let me stay up to watch him in the early 00s when I was 8/9. I will always be heartbroken over how NBC did him. I liked Jimmy when he was on SNL, but I could never get into him as a late night host. His broad pandering really kills it for me. When you’re trying too hard to get masses of people to like you, you lose yourself in the process and things come across less genuine. You don’t have to have opinions that everyone agrees with, but you can still have a backbone and the core of who you are/what you message is, can be clear. I love Seth, Stephen and I do really enjoy Bill Maher’s show, even tho there are things I don’t agree with that he says 😒. Watching late night, and Bill’s show was a staple in my house. We dearly miss it, and look forward to its return.
As an Indian who has only ever watched talk shows through clips on youtube, I never got their appeal, except for Conan. For some reason that man always made me feel good inside. He seems like a real one. Everyone else seemed fake. As all of this is going down, it all kind of makes sense to me.
Hurricane Dakota, takin' down show hosts one by one.
Its weird, I went to see the daily show air back in 2017. Colbert was fine. He's not a bundle of joy but I understood how serious and tired they were in the middle of winter during Trump's early presidency. The energy was oddly cold and drab. BUT NO ONE WAS MEAN. Jesus fucking christ.
I love when my fav commentary UA-camrs are late night nerds. Seems correct
ah yes you nailed it re: how many podcast hosts there should be: "a third one, if you're all related" aka the "...and me" clause, aka "what the fuck happened to travis" clause,
there's a guy who does these spot on impressions of orson welles on twitter and he described the way the cursed middle mcelroy sounds as "the laughter of a furby at the funeral of a dead child" and that phrase has never left me.
that was an insane meandering aside on a comment where what i really wanted to say was:
GIVE
CONAN
JIMMY'S
SPOT
YOU
FUCKS
Who who who
@@CaseyFoxiBoy the mcelroy brothers
Aww I will not stand for this Travis hate
@@RogueAstro85 look
if he chilled out and went back to being the middlest brother, the guy who slips in the funniest joke all episode while justin and griffin fight over who they think is funnier, he'd still be my favorite, by a country mile. "the piano mandate" is still the funniest joke in the first 500 episodes of mbmbam and neither of those boys even noticed it.
I mean... I work a regular full time job, it's stressful, and while no one "goes off" or is verbally abusive, I also think about unaliving myself pretty regularly. I don't think I'd ever go through w it, but I know exactly how I'd do it and I think about it more often than I'm comfortable with. and my job is easily the primary reason for it.
not defending the workplace at Fallon's show or whatever, just saying that I think the problem is our relationship with work itself and the system that not only allows but demands that work and the workplace be the way it is.
He’s not a Jimmy, but John Oliver tops my list of favorite late night hosts
your videos are consistently funny and insightful. it's insane that you only have 40k subscribers. truly one of the most underrated commentary channels on youtube
“hot smegma in the sun” really started my day off in some type of way
im disabled. i genuinely cant work because i have debilitating anxiety and depression. but since its invisible and im able-bodied ppl assume that i must be able to work, and not only that but ive bee pressured by everyone, including fucking therapists, everyone saying i need to work becuse thats just how life is. its fucked up. and the most insulting part is that i probably would be able to work if my mental health was actually taken seriously but nooooooooooooooooooo
its almost like humanity created a lot of unnatural systems that are completely unnecessary and serve a hegemony. we're really meant to be frolicking through nature picking berries and shit for real
I’ll always have a soft spot for Colbert as I was a conservative/centrist until I started watching the Colbert report. That show radicalized me lol. I know he’s not perfect but I really hope he isn’t like this.
I went to a live taping and he came across very nice
😂😂My 89 year old mom takes a nap in early evening so she can stay awake to watch Colbert. Yes, she could watch it on demand, if she would let someone show her how, but she refuses.
ok absolutely yes to all of this but "weakened nail beds" seems kind of small when employees were literally contemplating suic*de. but of course that's what the conservatives would choose to focus on
we do need a theater kid for president
Fallon is one of the things I picture when I think of a definition for "insincere braggart". Of course there are allegations against him, because most famous people will have a scandal to their name for acting like they aren't simple little humans, but with a general attitude like that of Fallon's, I'm surprised this wasn't several years ago.
Sounds like HR is complicit in harm caused. Sue sue sue sue sue!
Jimmy being a drunk isn't anything close to a shocker. Alcoholism leaves a lot of wreckage, which is why amends are a big part of recovery. I hope the dude gets into recovery soon, because he's going to be making amends for a long time. Especially considering it's only really Boomers & older X'ers who like him, so there's more people who wouldn't care less if he was ruined by his own actions. That being said, Ellen still makes millions a year, and her former staff haven't received so much as a weak apology done for the benefit of the abuser. What can I say, capitalism loves victimizing.
The Carson comparison is ridiculous -- when Johnny was the late night king, there were only 4 networks (if you include PBS) and no cable -- or internet! There was virtually no competition. Of course his ratings were sky high. All of network TV had much higher ratings back then.
I have never liked JF. The minute he ran his grubby hand thru 45's hair, I NEVER watched him again. He laughs like a child in the middle of skits and he is immature like an 8 year old boy. Everything else you said about him is true.
Ya got me on “the wickedly talented Daiquiri Jameson”
once again proving that conan was the best late night tv show host
I could never forget a name like Jimmy Krimble
Seth Meyers is the funniest of the late night shows imo. John Oliver a close second (tho his is a weekly show). Besides being hilarious you can tell they practice what their preach. I couldn’t stomach Fallon because he has literally no talent or wit, he was painfully cringe and unfunny.
Those are my top two as well. I love that Seth highlighted his writers often and gave them the credit.
I miss Craig Ferguson.
Lol I just commented the same thing before seeing your comment. I miss that man so much.
Hell yes.
Video still ended up in my recommend despite the (deserved) cussing out of the AMTPA, so I guess Harry is just that good 0:31
I like your pigeon art!
You made look closer and wow, this guy must really love pigeons
5:22 ohhh, drew barrymore. how the mighty fall.
such a disappointment!!
I miss Conan and Ferguson.
Comedians aren't typically qualified or able to actually manage large staffs. "He's funny -- put him in a leadership position!:
Compared to corden and ellen, fallon looks like a saint outside of the drinking I'm not realy seeing anything worth complaining about unless i missed something let me know me
Jimmy Fallon was the one late night show host I found the least grating, but I think we just have to accept that all our faves (even though he wasn't a hardcore fave of mine or anything) are likely problematic in some way and that's why we shouldn't put them on this pedestal. Also, is late night even still big in America?
Dakota you'll always be a star
was that a mbmbam reference i smelled in this video??
I remember being so excited when Jimmy got the Tonight Show. It’s so frustrating that talk shows create these environments.
Finally someone talking about him lol. I stopped liking him as soon as I attended the show live. It was awkward
I miss Harry's forgotten podcast.
shout-out to the corrections jackals!
Omg I love Dakota Johnson 😂😂
I wish I could speak as well as her ••• She's very sharp 😊😊
5:18 such a great joke lmao that killed me
I didn’t think it was a secret that he was drunk quite a bit. But didn’t know if any toxicity, although being drunk doesn’t help. Alcoholics are pretty good at seeming to hold it together.
I hope Kimmel is okay😅. Hey, maybe we can hire women now ? 😅
Honestly, the Roots are often more funny than he is.
I’ve always been a Conan person. He never fails to make me laugh and I grew up watching him. I also grew up watching Colbert on Strangers with Candy, but I think Amy Sedaris should have received that seat although she probably wouldn’t want to. But Colbert is openly Catholic which I don’t understand since Catholicism is anti-women and anti-gay. It makes no sense that he would support it (a cult that covers up child molestation). I’m surprised Colbert isn’t canceled for that alone.
Smegma in the hot sun will be a phrase forever
The attitude of "You should be happy to work here, there are a million people waiting to take your place" is ingrained in anyone who works in the entertainment industry from day one. It helps to create insecurity in the staff and talent, gives the people at the top way too much power over their employees, and makes the industry toxic.
Megyn Kelly is an absolute a$$. I wonder how SHE treats her staff.
She's definitely a monstrous boss.
Does HR not realize why they exist? Take care of employees!
Sadly HR is more about protecting the company than the employees.
This video is where I first heard about any controversy surrounding Jimmy Fallon.
hell yeah a corrections shoutout!!
6:11 i AM enjoying the video :)
Thought it was interesting you tossed Ashley Gavin in, she's a bit of a persona non grata for her behavior in shows I thought.
May I ask where you got that lovely pigeon poster seen in the background? I desperately need one lmao
My favorites fall as such:
1. John Oliver
2.Stephen Colbert
3.Seth Myers
But these are my favorites because they actually have something to SAY.
It's always a good ego stroke to me personally when someone compliments my man, Conan :P
jimmy ⚠️
The second jimmy has fallen
the daily wire bit.......help
Great video. Your audio/audio settings sucks though.
great writing man.
Finally now I can have an opinion on the matter
This should be a surprise to absolutely no one.
I got a Rick desanitary napkin ad during this 😭 I just think you should know youtube is attacking your viewers like that 😂😂
Why am I not surprised....
It’s been happening with a lot of talk show hosts.
its always a j name isnt it
I want you to know that 'smegma in the hot sun' has now entered my daily vernacular
James Corden has his best friend Harry Styles to save his a*s.
Jimi Fallon could be saved by the Roots band or any other one of his celebrity friends 🤷🏽♀️
Am I the only one really wondering what happened to the video after the f-bomb at 30 seconds.
For the record the funniest podcast I listen to has four co-hosts and none of them are related
I live on different continent but you have my vote
Seth meyers is a comedian first. He pays homage to Carson and by refusing to stand and get awau from the stifled, safe, talking suits.
That was excellent loved everything you said !
Dacery Jameson😭
imagine if late night shows just stopped
I’m glad Fallon apologized, the WGA got a better contract and everyone has gotten back to work
Also Strike Force 5 has improved after a few episodes but is about to end; the highlight being Fallon playing the scapegoat/little brother/butt of the joke, which is fine~
And at the end of the day, at least all the ads in the podcast go towards the shows’ staff and crew; if anything, the real joke is the podcast accommodating a lot of late night hosts and Fallon being the scapegoat
10:40 incorrect, Colleen Ballinger was cancelled 2 episodes into her podcast with Trisha Paytas.
completely unrelated- but do u own a pigeon as a pet? i do and my pigeon & i admire ur poster!! 😅🕊️💕✨
Love your videos >:]
*Sigh* I miss Conan and Craig Ferguson
We’ll vote for u Harry lol
I also hate Jimmy Kimmel. His existence angers me.
Good channel, strong vid. Easy sub
If you want a new host; Conan O’Brian is still available if they want him, and Daiquiri Jameson should at least be considered.
Maybe even look for a brand new person to host.