Hey at least you tried and decided to show respect to a language you can't pronounce well. That's way more than most people do. Thank you. Let's hope to see a Europe league final Arsenal - F.C. Barcelona.
In the Netherlands Ajax (football team of Amsterdam) wouldn't organize the tribute to celebrate the women's team for winning the national cup, because it might hurt the mens team feelings because they didn't win. Ajax said it would have been a political statement to organize something for the women and not for the men. So the women's team had to organize their own tribute. When I heard about this my jaw dropped, it was so bluntly misogynistic. So yeah... In the Netherlands it hasn't been great either for women's football....
Interesting, isn't it, that male footballers are supposedly so strong and cool and stoic but here they are acting like little brothers who didn't get presents on their big sisters' birthday.
As a Spanish I have to tell you that in Spanish forums it's very usual seeing people downplaying the kiss, saying that it's absurd that Rubiales lost his job, and that feminism is out of control basically. Thank you for covering this, I love you.
Tehre's no downplaying. It just wasn't a massive deal. It was innapropiate? Yes. Did it deserve the social media response from ministers of our Government talking about "sexual assault" anbd making this a political thing, pressuring Hermoso herself? No. Hilarious how those very ministers are the same ones who just reformed our Penal Code to let actual rapists shorten their prison sentences, having already release hundreds of them in the past few months. Very feminist the whole picture.
As a fellow Spaniard... ¿Por qué coño hablamos en inglés? Además joder ¿no podrían haber dejado pasar el puto beso públicamente a favor de no fastidiar la celebración? Porque eso es lo que pasó, todo el esfuerzo, sudor y lágrimas que pusieron esas jugadoras para levantar el fútbol femenino se han ido a la mierda porque al final todo ha acabado girando alrededor de un tío. No es justo, este problema nunca debió haber salido a la luz, porque el resultado fue que toda la copa mundial del futbol femenino ha sido reducido a un abuso sexual.
@@Constanza235 Don't know why I was still kinda suprised and shocked that the manager of the Spanish men's team clapped as well. I really wished the whole time that they would've stood up for their fellow women players - but no of course not, how foolish of me to think that men would be supporting women for once. The manager and tbh the whole Spanish men's team should be f*cking ashamed.
I've always felt that men keeping women out of sports was one of the more insidious yet subtle actions of the patriarchy solidifying the institution. They know that boys recieved all the physical and mental benefits mentioned in the video, but also the fact that boys learn teamwork, leadership, goal setting, and commradity at a very early age. All at a time in their development where it would be difficult to explain or teach these as large concepts. Sports makes the ideas palatable and adds value to them for young people.
I mentioned this in another comment, but all those positives were literally used to promote football as an activity and teambuilding exercise for women during WW1 while they were working in the factories. And once the men returned to take "their" jobs back, it flipped back to "football is too much for a lady's delicate constitution". Just shameless
@@cactustactics Probably because they knew learning cooperation and team work would make them more productive workers. Idk. But It’s Interesting to learn how womanhood/femininity has pretty much always been defined by men and the needs of the state at any given time.
@@LoneWulf278 yeah that was exactly it - they went from denying women that kind of participation in society, to encouraging it even requiring it when needed, and back to excluding women the moment that need passed. It's nothing new or unusual, but I feel like it's notable for how blatant it was, and how easily and openly they'd flip between contradictory narratives as it suited them. Basically admitting there was no actual truth to how they portrayed women, it was just a form of social control, saying the quiet part out loud for once
@@cactustactics Poor women... the evil men that were sent to the battlefront, who got killed, gassed and mutilated came back from war to retake their old jobs. How dare they to take "their" jobs back?
@@georgezee5173 yeah maybe we could have taken that moment to push towards a more equitable society, to recognise the contributions everyone has made, and to make things better for the working class instead of exploiting them and treating them as expendable? Alas,
You can see she was in absolute shock right after it happened. Its an old trope that sexual assault victims have to behave "perfectly" or in a "certain way" to be truthful.
And the "perfect" way to react is always changing according to the person commenting on the victim's behaviours. Victims are always in a "damned if you do; damned if you don't" situation. If she had reacted violently, got physical (like slapping as that one lady said she should have done), there would still be people saying "I don't think a victim who is supposedly so scared would get that violent.... No one would take advantages of violent angry women because they're not attractive" or something along that line.
yup. people say "why didn't she slap him?" but you just know that if she had, people would be saying she escalated the situation, she got violent, she went too far. there's no winning.
@@alexandrajay2001you're 100% right. If she's too shocked to react she obviously wanted it and if she defends herself shes the agressor. Either way shes in the wrong in the eyes of the public
it's just bullshit. I mean, how many times in personal interaction do you only understand what actually happened after a while passed after it happened... plus... you don't just slap a man who is stronger than you and has power over you. a stranger you can safely get away from, yes. but not someone you potentionally have to work with again... I think women have a collective memory of that backfirering hard. and... I have only seen bits of the video that shows the "kiss", but even in the small bits I have seen she looks rigid. her hands are in the air, she is bending away from him... how much louder can a reaction say "I don't want this! (heck, NO!!)"?
Here in Canada we had our own national scandal when our national hockey body was aware of several sexual assaults that took place in the Woman's National Hockey program, and did little to nothing. Another example proving the problem is not confined to Spain or football.
Or women's sports. They did the same damn thing with the men's junior players accused of SA. Quietly settled out of court years later. Kept all accused anonymous. The real crime would be ruining their careers, apparently. As if the NHL has ever been terribly concerned with SA.
junior hockey in canada is extraordinarily corrupt:/ like it's what you said on top of the fact that almost every single year since the nineties (no, that's not an exaggeration) there has been someone who comes forward with accusations against junior men's players of a multitude of horrors, with a terrifying pattern of group r**e..... and that's not even including the incidents where Hockey Canada managed to cover it up successfully or where the victim was too scared to speak up.... you know it's a toxic culture when the organization has something called "Participants Legacy Trust Fund" WHICH LITERALLY IS STATED TO EXIST FOR "matters including but not limited to assault, harassment and sexual abuse"......
though i may be biased given that i've only been in Canada for 3 years and already know 2 separate people from different cities who have been the victims of this disgusting behaviour and neither of them have gone public.
Yikes, if only people gave a shit abt this horrible situation as much as they cared abt the parts of athletes. Genuinely gross how abuse gets covered up.
Those arguments about how she didn't just "slap him" after kissing her makes me so mad. As someone who has gone through SA, for me, I did not come out of the shock only about a few hours later, where I completely collapsed and felt disgusted by what happened. We may think, oh well if something like that happens I can just slap defend myself, but we forget that at the moment it happens, it can be different for all how we react, for me, i didn't do anything, because I didn't knew what to do, I was just shocked, there is no right or wrong way of reacting to SA.
I slapped the person who touch my ass in bar (who was my classmate in uni) , he slapped me back and was going to hit me more if not for his friends who took him away. So, I could have ended wounded or worse because I slapped him.
And not to mention if she HAD slapped him she probably would be lambasted in the media, removed from her team and black listed. She absolutely would’ve be harassed and ‘made an example of’
It's extraordinary how often people talk about "fight or flight" responses without even being aware that it's actually "fight, flight or freeze". Freezing is such a common instinctive reaction and it is so often dismissed as indifference or indecision, but in reality, it's on the same level as the fight and flight responses. It's not something that is consciously controlled in a situation of extreme stress
@@verenabecker2724 there's even a fourth reaction that gets misinterpreted worse than the freeze response (which is really saying something) -- fawn. As someone who freezes when anxious, I feel for all the people who have their boundaries violated, especially in public where it affects you even more since all those eyes are on you.
also i just want to say that it can be legit dangerous to fight back. i mean she was on tv, but still you never know, it could have been a lot worse if she tried to fight him he might have fought back. this is something i think abt a lot unfortunately. i think unless youve been forced into these kind of situations you just cant understand what it feels like to be assaulted like that. i mean i dont really know, im lucky to not have been kissed against my consent, but ive had men come up to me on walks and say creepy shit, even if you know in that moment that you dont like it its hard to say anything abt it because what if i upset this guy and he turns on me? its a valid fear. it doesnt take away from how traumatic those situations can be.
Real interesting how many athletes are known domestic abusers, rapists, and general misogynists. And how little accountability the are faced with. And how often team owners/investors, coaches, and even teammates are supportive of them, because money is worth more than human lives and dignity. If you think this video is grim, just be glad it's not nearly as bad as the average American Football news cycle.
exactly! as a woman and sa victim it's a big slap in the face being a sports (in my case football) fan. i honestly lost my love and passion for sports after everything what happened in the last years. and it's making me really sad since it used to be such a big and happy part of my life.
@@sharkofjoy Yeah, the money is just an added bonus. If it were all about money, then you wouldn't have MRAs and other varieties of misogynists spending hours online making life harder for victims and survivors for free. They're primarily interested in upholding patriarchy and misogyny at all costs, including defending abusers.
'she got back with him'- yeah, the public being useful idiots and standing with abusers (because their favorite sport bro is more valuable to them than the safety of the victims) help to gaslight her into thinking things weren't as bad. Worse, because of the backlash victims receive when they do step forward, the behavior of going back to the abuser is reinforced ("Leaving hurts, I made a mistake; going back is safer."). 'She went back' is such a vomit-inducing take.
Also, the team that won (with Jenni Hermoso) refuses to play again until there are systemic changes. This came out after Rubiales finally resigned. I love that they were like "...and?" This is not the end and theyre putting their foot down!! 💅🏼💥💥
My love of sport pretty much got crushed by misogyny and homophobia. I was a prospect for the NZ Rugby Academy and a very good rugby player but I was a bit too feminine for their liking. Spoiler alert, turns out I was trans LOL. Anyway a condition of being put forward for regional teams (a stepping stone for a rugby career) I was advised I needed to stop acting like a f****t. Basically every player, coach, and scout bullied me so relentless for being naturally femme I just quit. I know this topic is about women's football but I think my story might be analogous perhaps? Maybe I'm just ranting. Anyway watching the World Cup recently was weird for me because I have a lifetime narrative in my head that all sports is fucking stupid and toxic. Those girls were amazing though. It was so exciting to watch.
In my yeargroup at my school the girls got banned from playing basketball because they kept getting physiscally violent, No one can convince me that women aren't equally competitive after that
It's more nurture than nature, as I was already freakishly tall in elementary school I kind of assumed femininity doesn't apply to me, I think it can be summed up as learned helplessness. Ask for help without even trying to solve your own problems, especially not with violence, put yourself down, underestimate yourself...
@@Smithpolly I mean I'm pretty sure it stemmed from accidents while in the moment, if you have played basketball you will know how easy it is to catch someone's hand while on defending and taking the ball from an opponent.
@@drchocolatetv It's basketball, not Squid Games.. It would be weird if they were banned from playing if it were just a matter of the normal accidents that you could expect during a game. However , if that were the case, I definitely wouldn't describe that as "The girls got banned from playing basketball because they kept getting physically violent"
I love it how people in the replies are trying to explain to the OP how are wrong in their knowledge/experience, without even being witness to the situation, lol
as an australian girl soccer player, it was incredible to see the support from aussies, both men and women, and those interested in soccer or not. the stadiums were packed, we broke viewership records, and everyone was talking about the matildas. it was incredible to see, and i hope that this support translates to future matildas game and our local australian womens league. go matildas!!!
@@jw9485most of our sporting teams have names. In 1994, there was a competition to name the women's soccer/football team, and the name Matildas won. Named after the iconic Aussie song "Waltzing Matilda"
@@jw9485you'd think so, but not really. Waltzing Matilda isn't about a woman, rather about a Swagman. Its a song we will sing, usually at international sporting matches, or when we'refeeling particularly patriotic. Matilda is also a very popular name in Aus.
I am a woman, and I've loved football ever since I was a kid. I spent 30 minutes crying during the last men's World Cup final, seeing what happened in the women's finals killed my joy.
@@HighGrade159 men aren't either if the fool couldn't control himself to not kiss her in front of millions of people. You underestimate the power of feminism as we managed to get that disgusting man to finally resign. Through feminism we fought for our rights as women and managed to enter spaces men kept us from entering. You all are the real threats to humanity as the stats also confirm
@@HighGrade159A person in a position of power kiss a player without their consent. As some who has been kissed without my consent, it's not about strength, it's about disrespect and power imbalance. Had both of them been women or men, the situation would've been the same. The fact that it happened in women's sports, where they already have to deal with sexist bs, is the cherry on top.
@@SilverKyria The lady that kissed Sean Kirrane is his boss, zero consent, same holding head in place. Zero outrage. I wonder why? 🤔 Modern day feminism has rotted a lot of young womens mind's into being perpetual victims of anything and everything. If that jockey claimed he had been s*xually assaulted then he'd be laughed out of the courtroom. Face it, feminism reeks of hypocrisy.
this year was definitely pivotal for women's football. here in brazil, it was the first time companies let people stay home to watch the women, which was already done for the men. a lot of people criticized it, which is baffling to me, considering it's 2023 and it was bare minimum in terms of equality. marta is an awesome player and it's really sad she didn't get the attention she deserved at the highest points of her career. she's still payed very little compared to the male players, and she's been the best in the world multiple years in a row. she takes the logos off of her shoes cause she's not sponsored by the brand, and it really sucks, cause she's amazing.
As someone who grew up playing football as a girl, I couldn’t possibly watch england in the World Cup without crying. So much pride to see these hero’s that we didn’t get the chance to grow up with. Thank you for covering this❤
Rubiales has apparently just been hit with a restraining order. He can't contact Hermoso nor come within 200m of her. Excellent hair in this video, by the way.
Even though media is doing more coverage, it's still a lot of "this team performed like this in athletic contest, and player #9 scored two goals" whereas men have more stories like "this is his chance to prove himself on the big stage" or "he's been struggling with injuries but wants to show he still belongs to this level of play" or "he's playing against his former team today, it will be interesting to see how that plays into things". Telling stories is an important part of attracting the casual audience and keeping them around for things other than tournaments with national teams.
Thanks, Tara, you actually brought me up at the end. Hearing that masc player getting into the effect this has on boys, women and society at large, and being furious about it, was cathartic. Hearing a man care about these things, loudly and publicly, just doesn't happen enough and it helps alleviate the exhaustion misogyny causes. And topping it off with Mary, Queen of Stops was the cherry on top.
i work at a pub and the discussions about women's football exhaust me. people will boldly say they don't think women should be allowed to play sports or even commentate on men's games and it's treated as a totally valid opinion! after the spanish debacle a lot of men tried to argue that it wasn't that bad or she looked like she wanted it and i was just disgusted. i wanted to ask those men how they would feel in her position, and sometimes i do try to argue back, but honestly most of the time i'm so jaded and exhausted i don't even bother anymore, i know nothing i say will change anyone's mind when they're that far gone.
She is brave to speak out. A lot of men feel entitled to to constantly invade women’s boundaries as if it is their birth right and they are outraged when they are reminded that women are human beings, equal to men, and we have the right to be treated with respect. This is not an overreaction. It is exahusting to live your life being aware that at any moment any man will be able to make a comment or behave in a way that will belittle you, put you in your place, remind you that he will always have the upper hand. (By the way, in the video, he clearly slapped her bum as she was leaving. I want to know why this dinosaurr feels entitled to do all this and still claim that he has the right to defend his toxic masculinity.)
I'm a United fan and love watching women's football. The whole Greenwood situation has made me uncomfortable enough to stop following my team as an SA survivor myself as long as the team manages the situation like this. Great video. 💚
I feel you. Feel hugged ♥ I'm fan of a German club where a similar crime happened, can't even watch the league anymore. Or basically any leagues since there are monsters like him in almost every of the Top 5's in Europe.
I don't watch sports but women sports are never talked about in the media even when they do it's all for the wrong reason 🙄 Women's sports players are sexualized and treated very poorly compared to males. At least that bald guy was kicked out 😅
The problem is that it's often impossible for the average person to watch women's sports because: A. They're not broadcast on live TV on Free-to-Air B. If they're broadcast on pay to view sports channels (Eurosport, ESPN, etc.), they usually have graveyard slots C. No one promotes the existence of either form of broadcast if they do happen. During the BBC's coverage of the UCI World Championships, half the women's road race wasn't even on TV - Claire Balding was talking about how great British people are, while the actual race (dominated by Dutch and Belgian women) was tucked away in a corner of the BBC iPlayer.
They aren't talked about as often because they don't generate the same revenue, viewership and interest that men's sports do. Even women watch men's sport more than they watch women's sports. Female players aren't sexualized either or treated poorly either, this is just patently false. In fact, federations have to bend over backwards to accommodate the ever growing demands of female football players and their political feminist handlers, as we've seen in Spain. I actually think the best thing would be for Women to have their own Federation so they can hire their own staff, no men if that's how they want it, they can handle the finances, sponsorships etc themselves. It makes it so much more straight forward and we will see less complaints and drama. Women's leagues are also loss making, so they have to be subsidized/paid for by the men's leagues, we will be happy to continue doing that, just leave the men's game alone.
in Australia, our two best performing sports broadcasts of all time are Cathy Freeman's sprint in the Olympics and the recent Matilda's football final - outperforming all of our other major sports grand finals (mens AFL, cricket and rugby league). so basically, you are very wrong. even tho they tv station paid so much less to broadcast women's world cup than any of those domestic series it outperformed THEM ALL. so the media and advertising and prime broadcast slots go to men so how is it unsurprising that it becomes a self fulfilling prophecy that they get more attention and money. gender bias is a scientifically proven thing that happens.
@@HighGrade159 you probably want to look into history a bit because the way womens sports have been restricted often specifically by sports organisations because they didn't want them taking money away from the mens sports is not an insignificant reason womens sports often fall behind in things like interest, viewership and revenue. So don't act like the whole situation is naturally the way it is, it's been manufactured that way and the least those organisations can do is give a little bit back to boost womens sports after literally banning/restricting them for decades to prioritise profits
It's so important to know all the positives of women (and especially girls!!) playing sports so that we understand what they want to "prevent" when they ban us from playing.
Thank you for breaking down what happened. When issues like this occur, as a woman, it is tough to listen over and over again to the lot of the media and people who justify and normalize this kind of horrid behavior. It's ridiculous how it is expected that the athletes accept these kinds of actions as if it's just the price to pay for the opportunity of being "allowed" to play and profit from the sport.
Hermoso: I didn't like it, it was gross. Average male sports fan: YOU DIDN'T PUNCH HIM AFTER THO SO YOU ACTUALLY LIKED IT, THE FEMINISM IS ROTTING THIS COUNTRY
Im an Australian and the influence the matildas have had here is crazy. I was never into sport but watching the shootouts against france changed that !! The country has never cared about womens sport more. The government has pledged more funding towards local womens clubs in response to this
more outrage was made about hypothetical trans predators in sports than an actual cis man sexually harassing his own team. as a trans guy, this type of shit frustrates me to no end
It makes me supremely happy that you refer to the win for Spain as a win for women and talk about the players themselves long before even hinting at what happened to Jenny. It's awful that the win and the women who dedicate their lives to the love of their game were overshadowed by a man's inappropriate behavior.
Professional sport teaches such wonderful life lessons such as, "If you're making someone a lot of money, you can get away with assaulting people." Just wonderful.
As a Utd fan, I am loathe to admit that Greenwood is not much of an outlier. When you have Giggs, Ronaldo, Overmars and now Anthony; that's starting to look like a systemic problem.
Hell yes, awesome video! I just wanna add one thing because it's super important and really shows the FA's hypocrisy - the WW1 period was a big time for women's football, because with women working in the factories while men were off fighting, they played football on their breaks and started forming teams. This was actually promoted as a good way to promote health and build strength and camaraderie (contrast that with the "football is too punishing for the delicate ladies" attitude when shutting down women's football after the men returned). The FA itself gave support, allowing women to use team grounds and hold matches that pulled in a lot of money to help the war effort, charities and social programmes, etc. Since men's matches weren't really happening anymore, the women's teams basically filled that void, became really popular, and even had their own tournament (called the Munitionettes' Cup)! That's how you ended up with women's football so established and popular in 1920, even after the women were kicked out of their factory jobs - the Dick, Kerr Ladies were one of those factory teams, named after the place they'd been working at. The men's teams were back but couldn't draw the same crowds, so just like with the factory jobs, the FA said "thanks for all your work ladies, but go away now, the men are back to take their rightful place" Hope this doesn't come off as too "well ACTUALLY" - that whole wartime period in women's football was really enlightening (and shameful) to me when I heard about it, so when Tara says "the BLFC went quiet" during that time I don't want people to think the factory work put the brakes on the sport. If anything I think it accelerated it and opened it up to a whole lot more women and the population in general! And it makes it extra infuriating how the FA threw women under the bus the way they did, so I'm glad the sport is finally getting the respect and recognition it had a dang century ago
thank you for including the angry male ally. it gives me a glimmer of hope to know that not every guy is garbage. and he was spitting facts. abusive relationships rarely look the way we expect them to. the abuse is emotional and manipulative as well. some victims never leave.
I went to a couple of games in Melbourne during the tournament. The Matildas' progress in the tournament on home soil brought Australia together. I hate that one man doing what he did overshadowed the Spanish team's victory after everything that team went through. The tournament was fantastic here, mostly full stadiums and high ratings, so I hope that the moment doesn't over take what a great tournament was and its legacy. Time will tell.
I live in San Diego and recently a woman’s soccer team came to our city. It’s been so cool to see the community so excited and supporting the team. I hope it only continues to grow. Also you are literally glowing. Looking absolutely gorg!
Back in primary school there was only a boy's football team, I wanted to compete with them since I already played with them just as well but couldn't because I wasn't a boy. So got some help from friends and teachers to get the school to run a girls football club and compete. To this day my primary school still runs both football teams and I'm glad to see it. On the other hand, I ended up playing men's football from year 8 onwards! Lol
With the increasing popularity of women’s sports, especially soccer/football, comes an increasing discovery of how long they’ve been treated like crap under the shield of “nobody’s really watching anyway.” I remember when the American women’s soccer team won the World Cup and even at first their higher ups were like “okay but like… why would we pay you more (or even the same) than ThE mEn” even though they were significantly more successful and that year were lowkey more popular. If they’d treat these women with the value they have not just as humans but as SUCCESSFUL ATHLETES in their job, they’d see women’s sports get even more popular (and profitable) by the day
You can quite the lie about the women making less. the courts threw out the pay part of the case because it was shown the women actually made more when presented with identical contracts Alex Morgan stated "why would we take less money, EQUAL ISN'T GOOD ENOUGH" Just stop the BS that the women's team was not paid well or fairly
I watched the women’s FA cup final in Wembley a few years ago and it was a bizarre experience because it was such a positive, family friendly atmosphere compared to when I went to the men’s final as a child. Tickets were also £2 which I’m glad makes it accessible but I was also outraged at just how little the event was valued!! I felt like I absolutely should have had to pay more for a stadium final!!
For FYI. Though most men's supporters for Manchester United were absolutely against Mason's return, if it wasn't for that leak, I don't think they'd have kicked him out. He's still technically a united player but on loan.
i'm aussie, and during the world cup the matildas were absolutely EVERYWHERE. although i'm really not into watching or playing sport, it was really nice seeing the country band together to support young, mostly queer, women. thank you for the great video as always!
Proud to say that my sister played for West Ham from the early 80s to the early 90s. I had the pleasure of being a stand-in referee for their away match at Tottenham back in 1991 when the official official was involved in a car crash. Being a Gooner I was totally unbiased. I still find some of the things said about the women's game is really patronising. Got my ticket for the Arsenal v Liverpool WSL match, another packed house at the Emirates hopefully. Will fist bump if I see you.
I saw FAR too many comments after the Rubiales incident that were using logic that essentially justified date rape. "she wasn't harmed(???), she didn't fight back, she didn't say no, she gave him a hug)
Ironically I felt pretty ostracized for NOT playing sports in high school. All of my girlfriends were into sports. I have never been competitive or into sports but that’s obviously just because of who I am as a person. I was a theater/music/art kid 😁Anyway I just lived in one of those towns where everyone was into sports and I always felt weird for not being into sports.
Sheffield's very similar where loads of people are hugely into sports and it can be alienating. When I was younger picking between Sheff Wendy and Sheff Urinal was a binary choice you couldn't avoid.
The end couldn't be more prophetic. It happened again, in the same club, as the player brought in to replace Greenwood is now indicted on domestic violence charges. Still, the development of the PL and its equivalent in Spain and France do show that the future is bright. (Although even my club, Olympique Lyonnais, arguably the european standard and the most succesful club on the continent still has massive issues in how management treats the players).
I remember when I got to play baseball and found out that I really like it, and then finding out that there was no women's team where I live, even the ping-pong team was male only; the only two sports that I really loved playing were unreachable for me was disappointing. As for the football, it's really great that the women tournaments are getting more popular!, in my country there was a 1st division league but it was not broadcasted, four years ago it started and the stadiums were almost empty, mostly player's families, but with the time and more coverage now the stadiums are full, the finals are talked about and old men (my country is sadly still pretty much sexist) can admit that some matches are better than their male counterparts. And I think, the popularity and the increase in interest in the women cup is what made this situation a little bit better, with so many people watching it was undeniable what happened and the outrage was bigger than FIFA expected that they had to step in (we all know that they wouldn't done it otherwise); and even with all sane people defending Hermoso I still hear people (my own brother is one of them) trying to say that it was a trap to have him resigned because they party with him and never reported anything before and she didn't reacted after it, that is so mess up. I just hope this helps women sports, not only football, to be more visible in both the good and the bad so the ones in the wrong can be held accountable. TW: Story about being touched in public transport I was touched inappropriately by a man in public transport, he apologized because 'it was an accident' and I from the shock I just smiled and say: 'it's ok', and then he proceed to continue to do it and I stay quiet then hours later I broke down crying blaming myself because I said 'it's ok', I gave him the go ahead even when I was just accepting his apology; so yeah, it takes time so sink in, takes time to process what happen and more time to move from the self-guilt and put it on the real culprit.
I'm from Argentina. The barriers footballers experience here are insane when you consider how we treat the men's game. Football is semi-professional for women, meaning many have to keep jobs outside of football to survive. Our national team had to strike in 2018 to ask the federation for better conditions (aka clothes that fit, a place to sleep during away games that isn't their bus). The last coach was in his post for 23 YEARS despite terrible results and refusing to call up some of our best players for his own personal reasons. The new coach is doing the same, and his poor management of the team blew our chances of advancing in the world cup. Don't even get me started on the amount of SA allegations. Things are getting better but it's too slow, especially for the NT. We need change, and fast. PS: Fun Fact on the 1970 unofficial World Cup, Argentina beat England 4-0, and it was the first time a NT from Argentina beat an English team. That match is remembered every year as National Female Footballer's Day in Argentina!
Lumauro. Fun fact there are men who area million times better that women who are getting paid to plays football. The only reason they are being paid is because they are women
Yes!!! I liked sports as a little kid but then it stops being about healthy exercise and having fun and becomes team sports and some jerk with a whistle is screaming at you and everyone takes it too seriously. I thought it was supposed to be about having fun
in Australia - which is hardly a feminist utopia - our two best performing sports broadcasts of all time are Cathy Freeman's sprint in the Olympics and the recent Matilda's football final - outperforming all of our other major sports grand finals (mens AFL, cricket and rugby league). the tv station paid peanuts to broadcast women's world cup and it outperformed THEM ALL. press, advertising and prime broadcast slots go to mens sports so it's becomes a self fulfilling prophecy that they get more attention and money. i think all Australians football fans are hoping this changes now.
I remember attending Judo at my elementary school, and being the only girl there- the coach was delighted to see me go and encouraged me to do my best (and I did), and I really enjoyed it, but the way all the boys would treat me was horrible. They teased and made fun of me in the changing room. They straight up refused to practice with me, always leaving one boy they apparently disliked and he hated me so much, probably feeling ashamed of having to practice with a girl, ew. He would perform the moves very forcefully, and I was also attending Aikido at the same time- they always told us to take care of your partner, to make sure you didn't hurt them. So I would try my best to be like that during Judo as well, and in return would get aggressively thrown onto the mat until I lost my patience and dished it all back to him, which often ended with him crying, considering I was also riding my bike and going to the pool at that time. When one day we had mini tournament at the end of practice, I have never seen a coach or any other teacher of mine look so proud when I managed to defeat one of the boys with my favourite techinque. I lost to the next one because, well, the boy was bigger and stronger and simply pushed me out of bounds. I'll never forget how I had to come up to the coach and apologise that I can't attend Judo anymore because we can't afford for me to go to 3 different activities and my parents want me to focus on school. I'm over 20 now, and I can barely catch a bus. Lack of exercise straight up makes me feel bad, but I just can't find the energy to do anything after 8 hours of sitting by the desk at work. It drains your energy in that particular way. And I can't imagine feeling any other way than awkward, trying to do the things I used to.
Here in the States during the Women’s World Cup, everyone I talked to correctly assumed I meant the USWNT when talking about the sport. The USWNT is just so much better than the Men’s team that it helps with the popularity of it here.
I’m not into football, but man… I remember both my uncle and brother telling me “women’s football is different from men’s” and after asking what that meant, they explained it’s “not as good, not as technically impressive” like…the techniques? Idk man, sucks to hear. I really turn off when people talk like that, I’m not even gonna acknowledge your existence anymore lol. Glad to see some coverage on the topic! I feel like nobody ever talks about it.
I mean, it is "not as technically" impressive. But male football was also less technical when it started. Football is not an old sport and women football is even younger. It can and it will get better, it just needs more support
This is what happens when all of Hollywood considers a 'British' accent to be exclusively and only posh London, maybe a touch of Oxford. Literally, how else are they supposed to know if you're Scottish or not when they have almost NEVER HEARD A SCOTTISH ACCENT IN THEIR LIFE, and if they did, it wasn't identified as such, just "bandit #4" or "some dwarf". I appreciated the Trainspotting reference, not least of all because requiring Ewan McGregor to drop his fairly posh and understandble Edinburgh accent to play Christian in Moulin Rouge annoys the living shit out of me (no French accents? Not even for the local performers? No, not in Paris) because, again, even Australians don't understand that the UK is four separate countries. This makes me so MAD, it's so STUPID. Do you know when they play Taggart in the states on cable, it's subtitled? HOW ARE YOU GOING TO LEARN WHEN YOU WON'T EVEN ENGAGE YOUR EARS?!
Americans probably think of that accent as ‘the British accent’ because ages ago you had to have that type of posh accent to become an actor in British films. Classism shit and all that. Until Michal Caine I think, who has a cockney accent started acting.
@@jvgreendarmok .... no, I mean that an Edinburgh accent is HIS natural accent, it is intrinsic to who he is and how he naturally expressed himself. Asking people to switch accents for no reason, and there is no plausible reason for it to be switched in Moulin Rouge, is problematic and misinformative. Christian being English as opposed to Scottish doesn't change a single thing about the movie, except to shorthand that he's rich and British. You can be rich and British and Scottish, but for some reason, they thought that wouldn't work as well. I don't appreciate the patronising and culturally insensitive tone your comment implied. You assumed wrong, dude.
@@HiBuddyyyyyyhis good looks meant he was one of the first working class actors to be cast as a lead, but the studio wanted him to do his first lead role with an RP accent anyway till he refused to comply
Thank you for talking about it. I'm Spanish and I'm so tired of both men and women saying that the ONLY reason a man "with his power and position" could behave that intimate towards one of his players it's because they should have had a SECRET RELATIONSHIP. AS IF S.A. ONLY TOOK PLACE IN CLOSED SPACES AND BETWEEN COUPLES (?????) Or that public figures aren't veiled by their organisations covering and justifying their acts. Not only that, during the match, he constantly grabbed his b*lls in front of the camera while screaming "in celebration", and still he sees nothing wrong with doing it so. I only say this: if this gross ass man behaves likes this in public, in front of a bunch of cameras, I do not doubt he's totally unpleasant to be around in private. Media needs to CONDEMN this acts.
Finding out Tara is an Arsenal fan makes this such a sad day. As long as the Cow that writes the scripts isn't an Arsenal fans as well my day may not be totally ruined.
As an American (gross) I personally really enjoy soccer! I also played myself as a youngin. I really appreciate you raising awareness on these issues! Thank you. I love your videos sooooo much! 🙏🏻
There’s nothing gross about that lmao. Don’t let these internet trolls (who are from some of the sickest and genocidal countries *cough* *cough*, imperialists and literal nazis) tell you otherwise! 👍🏽
Your hair is aspirational. I think that you would be interested in the sports show Emma Vigeland does. Sports are above me but this is a very interesting video on the topic.
The Matilda's were the talk of the town during the women's world cup for very good reason. And generally everyone was really into it and watched the games moreso than the Socceroo's (mens team) which made the angry men and the murdoch media that fuel them look even more silly and pathetic making snide comments about womens sport when it was the #1 veiwed TV event in Australia and they've achieved more than the Socceroos ever have we have some of the best players (Sam Kerr!) and I haven't even mentioned the Lesbians!
An important note in Rubiales' case is that female players on the Spanish national team have been protesting and openly complaining about their working conditions and the behaviour of their bosses for decades without any consequences. A few years ago, when they protested against the now fired coach Jorge Vilda, Spanish sports media either reported they were protesting without mentioning why (his lack of skill+being a creep) or outright attacked them as if they were demanding too much; it was really frustrating to watch. No wonder Rubiales felt like he didn't need to resign at first, even if his behaviour was seen live by millions around the world; impunity has always been kind of a thing in the Royal Spanish Football Federation.
The fact that women's football has been banned in the UK and other places is insane tbh. It certainly throws into perspective those who belittle it for its lack of tradition, etc... 🤔
yeah, if you look into it more it's quite a common thing for sports in general. Also the creation of womens divisions in sport only happening when a woman competed in the sport and beat the men, which meant they had to create womens sections or risk the shame of loosing to women or just ban them entirely.
seeing women's soccer rise in popularity has also reignited my love for the game recently, but the rampant misogyny, homophobia, racism, abuse of power, corrupt politics, etc is definitely still as big of a problem as it ever was, and it's important for fans and players to bring attention to these things rather than continuing to ignore them. also, on a lighter note, i wish non-US women's league matches were more easily accessible to watch here, would love to be able to go to a bar with some friends and watch a women's arsenal game there, COYG ❤
I went to nearly all the games in Sydney (except the final, it sold out months before the WWC started) but it was incredible seeing these games in my own backyard! Keen to see the local interest translate to more people interested in our local top-tier league (A-League) for both Mens and Womens (womens memberships are at an all time high), and for future players in our grassroots level competitions
I hate the argument of “women’s athletes are just less skilled” because even if it were true, you could make the same argument about college and high school athletes and lower league teams, yet those sports still have tons of investment and an audience. College football coaches in the SEC in the US are some of the highest paid college professionals in the country. But if you put the highest ranked programs like Alabama or Ohio State against even a mid NFL team, they’d most likely get blown out. So skill level is not an argument for lack of investment, it’s literally just a circular logic “women less skilled”-->less investment in training, facilities, and women’s leagues--> less promotion of the game--> less people watch the games--> reinforces the belief that women are just inherently less skilled and women’s sports are not valuable. Also Intermural competition is a thing and women’s athletes can and do win against men’s athletes. Sports being divided into skill level and weight classes just makes more sense, there is so much variation in the body types of just Cis men and Cis Women, before you even get into trans athletes. Even if you believe trans athletes should be segregated in a separate league, considering how much conservative sports fans don’t give a shit about women’s sports until they can use it as a culture war issue against Trans people, no trans athlete would have the ability to sustain the lifestyle of a professional athlete if there is no investment in the sport. I love amateur level sports, especially amateur level LGBTQ leagues, but they don’t put food on the table. Just look at how difficult it is to sustain a new professional sports league, remember the USFL, the XFL? Hell even the PAC-12, an established conference is in danger of folding after this season because other conferences poached their teams. Who the fuck is financing the Trans league, Laverne Cox? All these arguments boil back to the same Biological Essentialism, Women=Female=Weak, Men=Male=Strong. For some people, that belief is so ingrained in their minds that presenting any evidence to the contrary will make them move the goalposts(hey sports pun😅), you can point out Trans women on HRT having similar or lower levels of Testosterone in their systems than their Cis competitors, they’ll move to “structural advantages” as if Cis Women are incapable of having muscles, broad shoulders, naturally higher bone density, larger lung capacity, height, etc. Trans men athletes get shafted by this too, High School Wrestler Mack Beggs was forced to wrestle against girls in competitions, and when he won people claimed it was “unfair” despite the fact that the school district in Texas made it legally impossible for him to compete with Boys. Patricio Manuel is a Trans Man Boxer, he is 3-0 in professional bouts, all his opponents were Cis, and yet his manager is having trouble scheduling fights for him because potential opponents keep bowing out afraid to “lose to a girl” despite Manuel being on HRT for years. While all sports are ripe with Systemic Abuse, Women’s athletes are also ripe for victimization in other unique forms of systemic abuse, Women’s Figure Skating is actually considered superior to Men’s figure skating in most figure skating circles, though it’s gotten more level with talent like Yuzuru Hanyu changing up the men’s game. The women’s figure skating athletes often have incredibly short primes as well as debuting younger and younger, and are quite literally groomed by coaches to develop eating disorders and power through injuries to the point that a 20-year old woman in the world of Figure Skating is already considered “past her prime”. When you have to overcome so much additional bullshit with less structural support or opportunities to go Pro, obviously you are gonna be less invested in sports. And that de-investment is pointed to as “natural” and not the results of systems. Even when you win, you lose.
I work in a school and a girl's football after-school club was opened and the attendance has been amazing - they're thinking they might need another PE coach to come and help because there's so many girls! It's really heartening to see young girls getting excited for football, having idols in the Lionesses and wanting to improve and learn more. We still have a long way to go but I'm glad things are getting better, albeit slowly.
I watched boys play for years. In my native country, it was not encouraged and opportunities were scarce. It wasonly when I came to the states and at age 13 that I got to play. Can not tell you the joy it brought me. But no matter how good I got, there was always, “ you are great for a girl”. Finally after collage by accident I got to play in a competitive men’s league. These were the same college players I would be often unfavorably compared to. To be honest the men were only apprehensive the first time they saw me, then they didn’t care. But every mistake I made I felt like I was ruining it for every woman . I wished I could have fully enjoyed those times without a chip on my shoulder but what I did learn was that I can play with and against men, and their game was better by design and coed playing should be encouraged.
It's always so ridiculously archaic when I hear about these "bans" on women participating in certain sports. Like how women were banned from marathons.
i'm so glad you're making a video about women's football! I've always loved football and I never got why any sport has the association of it being intrinsically for boys; when I came out as a trans woman to my dad, he said I act and enjoy manly things, such as football, so i can't be a woman. I'm really happy women's football is getting more recognition and I'm really glad it's becoming less common to say sports, and football mainly, are for boys only. I hate the fact that, after coming out, people assumed I couldn't play football or enjoy it anymore. It's silly. What's also silly is separating sports by gender, especially with how enbies get either cast aside or play in the AGAB side for them. Silly. Anyway, YNWA! Edit: Really glad you talked about Greenwood too, that situation is absurd, but I also kind of expected Antony to be mentioned too given his situation as well and how Man U have handled it (or even comparatively how they have stood by these *alleged* abusers while they shunned Sancho despite his mental health issues). There's also something to be said about the women players being included in next year's FIFA (now called EA FC but anyway) in Ultimate Team, which is huge for getting people interested in the sport, but also the abuse that those women players have received from misogynists who don't want to play with the women. Anyway, great video! Just think there are some other topics worth noting beyond what you said but really glad to see you talking about football :D
She's coming off the high of her massive win in front of millions both live and on TV. And in that moment her coach -- someone in a position of power, unprompted, kisses her right on the mouth. In front of millions. But she's getting critique for not having the presence of mind to react like the "proper" victim?
Wow, it’s been a battle. I’m so happy women’s soccer is on the rise. I feel like it’s the last segment of soccer that hasn’t been tainted by corporate greed, the beauty of the sport still shines through. But alas, it can’t just be women doing their best without men gate crushing and undermining the hard work that these passionate athletes put in. I really hope we reach a level higher than this when it comes to decorum in sports and that we respect every athlete equally. Thank you, for shining a light on this, and expressing your love of the (not always) beautiful game. Great Video ❤❤❤ Women Soccer RULES!!!
My wee sister always wanted to play rugby at school but she was the only girl who came to training. Coach was really good tho and he used to chuck a scrum cap on her and get he in with lads. Even won a few tournaments for the under 13s side. She had to stop when the lads hit puberty tho. Luckily she was able to sort out a girls hockey team but the support from the school was almost non-existent with no strips of their own (they had to wear the boys rugby strips) and no permanent coach. And it was such a shame cause it clearly meant a lot especially to the younger quines cause it let them meet others in different age groups and develop team work skills. Even afrer shes left school we still get younger girls coming up to her to talk abt the hockey. These things are important and its so important that womens sport get the support it needs with it constantly be shot down because it really matters.
So good to see a video about footy in your channel, Tara, didn't know you were a fan of the sport. My appreciation for covering this topic and for evey other journalists that have been brave enough to speak about it (specially people from The Athletic have been top notch covering this issues).. As a Liverpool supporter, I respect the banter from a gunner.
As a Spanish I have to congratulate you on your pronunciation of Spanish names, because you have said Hermoso's last name always well, but have butchered Rubiales' name all the time, which has been * cheff's kiss * (great video, by the way)
The WC match between Australia and France broke national viewing records. More people watched the Matildas than the AFL Grand Final which says a lot for a country with such a macho football code in Aussie Rules.
I was at the Freo/WCE Derby match and they had the Tillie's and France game on the stadium screens. When the AFL teams started to make their way out they all got booed because they were changing the screens over from the penalties to the footy players. Never in a million years would I imagine a West Coast derby getting booed for starting on time until that night. The whole stadium went absolutely crazy when we won the shootout. Better atmosphere for the Tillie's game than the actual footy lmao. Such a wonderful experience honestly.
I've recently become a huge fan of the womens arsenal team and have become obsessed with womens football in general .So happy ur covering this , u wouldn't believe the amount of people ik who I've argued with endlessly who just don't believe in the advocacy of women's football. it's shocking , a very long way go to in terms of attitudes towards it and a lot to undo , even now . Its disappointing to say the least
Always nice to have your sexist challenged in a good way, and at work we recently had an AMAB NB join us and they came to Friday Football after work. That's so good to happen, I thought. We'll have to give them a nice start. They're amazing and I got the ball off them once in 2 hours. Was like trying to tackle Paolo Wanchope.
I threw the BBC under the bus, blaming them for my terrible pronunciation of Rubiales. Turns out I'm just dumb
Its ok. NPR will still accept you
It's okay, I'll blame the BBC anyways.
Hey at least you tried and decided to show respect to a language you can't pronounce well. That's way more than most people do. Thank you. Let's hope to see a Europe league final Arsenal - F.C. Barcelona.
There's still many reasons to throw the BBC under the bus their platforming of transphobia being but one of them.
It's always right to throw the BBC under the bus 😂❤
In the Netherlands Ajax (football team of Amsterdam) wouldn't organize the tribute to celebrate the women's team for winning the national cup, because it might hurt the mens team feelings because they didn't win. Ajax said it would have been a political statement to organize something for the women and not for the men. So the women's team had to organize their own tribute. When I heard about this my jaw dropped, it was so bluntly misogynistic. So yeah... In the Netherlands it hasn't been great either for women's football....
I though men don't have feelings and emotions, except for the pure rage
Interesting, isn't it, that male footballers are supposedly so strong and cool and stoic but here they are acting like little brothers who didn't get presents on their big sisters' birthday.
Well, men aren't allowed to celebrate many things because it might hurt women's feelings.
Equality at last!
@@markprice5651yeah, male soccer teams absolutely never have celebrations unless the women won too, that's totally how that goes.
@@markprice5651poor baby 😔
As a Spanish I have to tell you that in Spanish forums it's very usual seeing people downplaying the kiss, saying that it's absurd that Rubiales lost his job, and that feminism is out of control basically. Thank you for covering this, I love you.
As a fellow spaniard of the male gender... I'm so sorry about all of this. Thank god Rubiales is at least out of his job
Seeing that crowd applauding him for refusing to step down was a very clear message of sexism in Spain, unfortunately.
Tehre's no downplaying. It just wasn't a massive deal. It was innapropiate? Yes. Did it deserve the social media response from ministers of our Government talking about "sexual assault" anbd making this a political thing, pressuring Hermoso herself? No. Hilarious how those very ministers are the same ones who just reformed our Penal Code to let actual rapists shorten their prison sentences, having already release hundreds of them in the past few months. Very feminist the whole picture.
As a fellow Spaniard... ¿Por qué coño hablamos en inglés?
Además joder ¿no podrían haber dejado pasar el puto beso públicamente a favor de no fastidiar la celebración? Porque eso es lo que pasó, todo el esfuerzo, sudor y lágrimas que pusieron esas jugadoras para levantar el fútbol femenino se han ido a la mierda porque al final todo ha acabado girando alrededor de un tío. No es justo, este problema nunca debió haber salido a la luz, porque el resultado fue que toda la copa mundial del futbol femenino ha sido reducido a un abuso sexual.
@@Constanza235 Don't know why I was still kinda suprised and shocked that the manager of the Spanish men's team clapped as well. I really wished the whole time that they would've stood up for their fellow women players - but no of course not, how foolish of me to think that men would be supporting women for once. The manager and tbh the whole Spanish men's team should be f*cking ashamed.
I've always felt that men keeping women out of sports was one of the more insidious yet subtle actions of the patriarchy solidifying the institution. They know that boys recieved all the physical and mental benefits mentioned in the video, but also the fact that boys learn teamwork, leadership, goal setting, and commradity at a very early age. All at a time in their development where it would be difficult to explain or teach these as large concepts. Sports makes the ideas palatable and adds value to them for young people.
I mentioned this in another comment, but all those positives were literally used to promote football as an activity and teambuilding exercise for women during WW1 while they were working in the factories. And once the men returned to take "their" jobs back, it flipped back to "football is too much for a lady's delicate constitution". Just shameless
@@cactustactics Probably because they knew learning cooperation and team work would make them more productive workers. Idk. But It’s Interesting to learn how womanhood/femininity has pretty much always been defined by men and the needs of the state at any given time.
@@LoneWulf278 yeah that was exactly it - they went from denying women that kind of participation in society, to encouraging it even requiring it when needed, and back to excluding women the moment that need passed. It's nothing new or unusual, but I feel like it's notable for how blatant it was, and how easily and openly they'd flip between contradictory narratives as it suited them. Basically admitting there was no actual truth to how they portrayed women, it was just a form of social control, saying the quiet part out loud for once
@@cactustactics Poor women... the evil men that were sent to the battlefront, who got killed, gassed and mutilated came back from war to retake their old jobs. How dare they to take "their" jobs back?
@@georgezee5173 yeah maybe we could have taken that moment to push towards a more equitable society, to recognise the contributions everyone has made, and to make things better for the working class instead of exploiting them and treating them as expendable? Alas,
You can see she was in absolute shock right after it happened.
Its an old trope that sexual assault victims have to behave "perfectly" or in a "certain way" to be truthful.
VERY true. And the standards of perfect victimhood are often established by predators or people who hold the predator’s interests at heart.
And the "perfect" way to react is always changing according to the person commenting on the victim's behaviours. Victims are always in a "damned if you do; damned if you don't" situation. If she had reacted violently, got physical (like slapping as that one lady said she should have done), there would still be people saying "I don't think a victim who is supposedly so scared would get that violent.... No one would take advantages of violent angry women because they're not attractive" or something along that line.
yup. people say "why didn't she slap him?" but you just know that if she had, people would be saying she escalated the situation, she got violent, she went too far. there's no winning.
@@alexandrajay2001you're 100% right. If she's too shocked to react she obviously wanted it and if she defends herself shes the agressor. Either way shes in the wrong in the eyes of the public
it's just bullshit. I mean, how many times in personal interaction do you only understand what actually happened after a while passed after it happened... plus... you don't just slap a man who is stronger than you and has power over you. a stranger you can safely get away from, yes. but not someone you potentionally have to work with again... I think women have a collective memory of that backfirering hard. and... I have only seen bits of the video that shows the "kiss", but even in the small bits I have seen she looks rigid. her hands are in the air, she is bending away from him... how much louder can a reaction say "I don't want this! (heck, NO!!)"?
Here in Canada we had our own national scandal when our national hockey body was aware of several sexual assaults that took place in the Woman's National Hockey program, and did little to nothing.
Another example proving the problem is not confined to Spain or football.
Or women's sports. They did the same damn thing with the men's junior players accused of SA. Quietly settled out of court years later. Kept all accused anonymous. The real crime would be ruining their careers, apparently. As if the NHL has ever been terribly concerned with SA.
junior hockey in canada is extraordinarily corrupt:/ like it's what you said on top of the fact that almost every single year since the nineties (no, that's not an exaggeration) there has been someone who comes forward with accusations against junior men's players of a multitude of horrors, with a terrifying pattern of group r**e..... and that's not even including the incidents where Hockey Canada managed to cover it up successfully or where the victim was too scared to speak up.... you know it's a toxic culture when the organization has something called "Participants Legacy Trust Fund" WHICH LITERALLY IS STATED TO EXIST FOR "matters including but not limited to assault, harassment and sexual abuse"......
though i may be biased given that i've only been in Canada for 3 years and already know 2 separate people from different cities who have been the victims of this disgusting behaviour and neither of them have gone public.
@@IMAComedy yikes, its so upsetting omg
Yikes, if only people gave a shit abt this horrible situation as much as they cared abt the parts of athletes. Genuinely gross how abuse gets covered up.
I'm still baffled people thought your accent was scottish.
@@lostandfond2163Scotland is in the UK and is part of the Isle of Great Britain - I think you mean an English accent :) Maybe a Welsh accent?
Right? Tara's accent is so posh???
@@janebee265 her accent is not posh but certainly not Scottish.
Americans
@@satyakisil9711 I'd say her accent is posh but I'm from the North so most southern accents are posh to me.
Those arguments about how she didn't just "slap him" after kissing her makes me so mad. As someone who has gone through SA, for me, I did not come out of the shock only about a few hours later, where I completely collapsed and felt disgusted by what happened. We may think, oh well if something like that happens I can just slap defend myself, but we forget that at the moment it happens, it can be different for all how we react, for me, i didn't do anything, because I didn't knew what to do, I was just shocked, there is no right or wrong way of reacting to SA.
I slapped the person who touch my ass in bar (who was my classmate in uni) , he slapped me back and was going to hit me more if not for his friends who took him away.
So, I could have ended wounded or worse because I slapped him.
And not to mention if she HAD slapped him she probably would be lambasted in the media, removed from her team and black listed. She absolutely would’ve be harassed and ‘made an example of’
It's extraordinary how often people talk about "fight or flight" responses without even being aware that it's actually "fight, flight or freeze". Freezing is such a common instinctive reaction and it is so often dismissed as indifference or indecision, but in reality, it's on the same level as the fight and flight responses. It's not something that is consciously controlled in a situation of extreme stress
@@verenabecker2724 there's even a fourth reaction that gets misinterpreted worse than the freeze response (which is really saying something) -- fawn. As someone who freezes when anxious, I feel for all the people who have their boundaries violated, especially in public where it affects you even more since all those eyes are on you.
also i just want to say that it can be legit dangerous to fight back. i mean she was on tv, but still you never know, it could have been a lot worse if she tried to fight him he might have fought back.
this is something i think abt a lot unfortunately. i think unless youve been forced into these kind of situations you just cant understand what it feels like to be assaulted like that. i mean i dont really know, im lucky to not have been kissed against my consent, but ive had men come up to me on walks and say creepy shit, even if you know in that moment that you dont like it its hard to say anything abt it because what if i upset this guy and he turns on me? its a valid fear. it doesnt take away from how traumatic those situations can be.
I love that every month is women’s history month on this channel
That’s why I love this channel ❤
This is how feminists want the world to operate, not just this channel.
@@HighGrade159and where's the problem in that
@@poisonbiscuits Women aren't the only people on this planet, nor does the world revolve solely around women.
@@HighGrade159 😂😂😂 that’s rich coming from someone hating on feminism
Why tf is FUN always prohibited for women?? Men really wanted us to be miserable.
Insecure men. I'm perfectly fine with my niece taking part in sports
@@zainmudassir2964it’s a shame that your opinion on your niece playing should even matter
Patriarchy is very much against fun for women, men and non-binary folks wherever it occurs
@@zainmudassir2964 Cool that you're fine with your niece playing sports. But this totally feels like an uncalled-for "NOT ALL MEN!!" moment.
@@zainmudassir2964I'm glad to hear you opposed the football ban in 1921. Also glad to see you in such good health for a 100+ year old!
Real interesting how many athletes are known domestic abusers, rapists, and general misogynists. And how little accountability the are faced with. And how often team owners/investors, coaches, and even teammates are supportive of them, because money is worth more than human lives and dignity. If you think this video is grim, just be glad it's not nearly as bad as the average American Football news cycle.
exactly! as a woman and sa victim it's a big slap in the face being a sports (in my case football) fan. i honestly lost my love and passion for sports after everything what happened in the last years. and it's making me really sad since it used to be such a big and happy part of my life.
It's not even money. They'd defend abusers for free.
@@sharkofjoy Yeah, the money is just an added bonus. If it were all about money, then you wouldn't have MRAs and other varieties of misogynists spending hours online making life harder for victims and survivors for free. They're primarily interested in upholding patriarchy and misogyny at all costs, including defending abusers.
Kobe Bryant comes to mind.
Christiano Ronaldo as well
'she got back with him'- yeah, the public being useful idiots and standing with abusers (because their favorite sport bro is more valuable to them than the safety of the victims) help to gaslight her into thinking things weren't as bad. Worse, because of the backlash victims receive when they do step forward, the behavior of going back to the abuser is reinforced ("Leaving hurts, I made a mistake; going back is safer."). 'She went back' is such a vomit-inducing take.
Also, the team that won (with Jenni Hermoso) refuses to play again until there are systemic changes. This came out after Rubiales finally resigned. I love that they were like "...and?" This is not the end and theyre putting their foot down!! 💅🏼💥💥
My love of sport pretty much got crushed by misogyny and homophobia. I was a prospect for the NZ Rugby Academy and a very good rugby player but I was a bit too feminine for their liking. Spoiler alert, turns out I was trans LOL. Anyway a condition of being put forward for regional teams (a stepping stone for a rugby career) I was advised I needed to stop acting like a f****t. Basically every player, coach, and scout bullied me so relentless for being naturally femme I just quit. I know this topic is about women's football but I think my story might be analogous perhaps? Maybe I'm just ranting. Anyway watching the World Cup recently was weird for me because I have a lifetime narrative in my head that all sports is fucking stupid and toxic. Those girls were amazing though. It was so exciting to watch.
In my yeargroup at my school the girls got banned from playing basketball because they kept getting physiscally violent, No one can convince me that women aren't equally competitive after that
It's more nurture than nature, as I was already freakishly tall in elementary school I kind of assumed femininity doesn't apply to me, I think it can be summed up as learned helplessness. Ask for help without even trying to solve your own problems, especially not with violence, put yourself down, underestimate yourself...
@@c.w.8200 In my school we had male and female gym teachers. So I think we all had teachers that supported us and helped us do well in P.E.
@@Smithpolly I mean I'm pretty sure it stemmed from accidents while in the moment, if you have played basketball you will know how easy it is to catch someone's hand while on defending and taking the ball from an opponent.
@@drchocolatetv It's basketball, not Squid Games.. It would be weird if they were banned from playing if it were just a matter of the normal accidents that you could expect during a game. However , if that were the case, I definitely wouldn't describe that as "The girls got banned from playing basketball because they kept getting physically violent"
I love it how people in the replies are trying to explain to the OP how are wrong in their knowledge/experience, without even being witness to the situation, lol
as an australian girl soccer player, it was incredible to see the support from aussies, both men and women, and those interested in soccer or not. the stadiums were packed, we broke viewership records, and everyone was talking about the matildas. it was incredible to see, and i hope that this support translates to future matildas game and our local australian womens league.
go matildas!!!
Why are they called "matildas"?
@@jw9485most of our sporting teams have names. In 1994, there was a competition to name the women's soccer/football team, and the name Matildas won. Named after the iconic Aussie song "Waltzing Matilda"
So matilda is a famous Australian woman?
@@jw9485you'd think so, but not really. Waltzing Matilda isn't about a woman, rather about a Swagman. Its a song we will sing, usually at international sporting matches, or when we'refeeling particularly patriotic. Matilda is also a very popular name in Aus.
@@emilylockwood795 thanks :)
I am a woman, and I've loved football ever since I was a kid. I spent 30 minutes crying during the last men's World Cup final, seeing what happened in the women's finals killed my joy.
* men's world cup, it's always been called that.
Yeah I've always loved football too
@@HighGrade159 men aren't either if the fool couldn't control himself to not kiss her in front of millions of people. You underestimate the power of feminism as we managed to get that disgusting man to finally resign. Through feminism we fought for our rights as women and managed to enter spaces men kept us from entering. You all are the real threats to humanity as the stats also confirm
@@HighGrade159A person in a position of power kiss a player without their consent. As some who has been kissed without my consent, it's not about strength, it's about disrespect and power imbalance. Had both of them been women or men, the situation would've been the same. The fact that it happened in women's sports, where they already have to deal with sexist bs, is the cherry on top.
@@SilverKyria The lady that kissed Sean Kirrane is his boss, zero consent, same holding head in place. Zero outrage. I wonder why? 🤔 Modern day feminism has rotted a lot of young womens mind's into being perpetual victims of anything and everything. If that jockey claimed he had been s*xually assaulted then he'd be laughed out of the courtroom. Face it, feminism reeks of hypocrisy.
this year was definitely pivotal for women's football. here in brazil, it was the first time companies let people stay home to watch the women, which was already done for the men. a lot of people criticized it, which is baffling to me, considering it's 2023 and it was bare minimum in terms of equality.
marta is an awesome player and it's really sad she didn't get the attention she deserved at the highest points of her career. she's still payed very little compared to the male players, and she's been the best in the world multiple years in a row. she takes the logos off of her shoes cause she's not sponsored by the brand, and it really sucks, cause she's amazing.
As someone who grew up playing football as a girl, I couldn’t possibly watch england in the World Cup without crying. So much pride to see these hero’s that we didn’t get the chance to grow up with. Thank you for covering this❤
For what its worth from an anonymous stranger, but your playing contributed to that moment happening.
👏🏾Well done.👍🏾
"hero's"
The two women not clapping at all give me life.
Rubiales has apparently just been hit with a restraining order. He can't contact Hermoso nor come within 200m of her.
Excellent hair in this video, by the way.
Even though media is doing more coverage, it's still a lot of "this team performed like this in athletic contest, and player #9 scored two goals" whereas men have more stories like "this is his chance to prove himself on the big stage" or "he's been struggling with injuries but wants to show he still belongs to this level of play" or "he's playing against his former team today, it will be interesting to see how that plays into things". Telling stories is an important part of attracting the casual audience and keeping them around for things other than tournaments with national teams.
Thanks, Tara, you actually brought me up at the end. Hearing that masc player getting into the effect this has on boys, women and society at large, and being furious about it, was cathartic. Hearing a man care about these things, loudly and publicly, just doesn't happen enough and it helps alleviate the exhaustion misogyny causes. And topping it off with Mary, Queen of Stops was the cherry on top.
On a light note, "Mary, Queen of Stops" is one of the most hilariously cool sports nicknames I've ever heard
i work at a pub and the discussions about women's football exhaust me. people will boldly say they don't think women should be allowed to play sports or even commentate on men's games and it's treated as a totally valid opinion! after the spanish debacle a lot of men tried to argue that it wasn't that bad or she looked like she wanted it and i was just disgusted. i wanted to ask those men how they would feel in her position, and sometimes i do try to argue back, but honestly most of the time i'm so jaded and exhausted i don't even bother anymore, i know nothing i say will change anyone's mind when they're that far gone.
She is brave to speak out. A lot of men feel entitled to to constantly invade women’s boundaries as if it is their birth right and they are outraged when they are reminded that women are human beings, equal to men, and we have the right to be treated with respect. This is not an overreaction. It is exahusting to live your life being aware that at any moment any man will be able to make a comment or behave in a way that will belittle you, put you in your place, remind you that he will always have the upper hand. (By the way, in the video, he clearly slapped her bum as she was leaving. I want to know why this dinosaurr feels entitled to do all this and still claim that he has the right to defend his toxic masculinity.)
I'm a United fan and love watching women's football. The whole Greenwood situation has made me uncomfortable enough to stop following my team as an SA survivor myself as long as the team manages the situation like this.
Great video. 💚
I feel you. Feel hugged ♥ I'm fan of a German club where a similar crime happened, can't even watch the league anymore. Or basically any leagues since there are monsters like him in almost every of the Top 5's in Europe.
Im the same. The situation has completely dampened my love for the club. Sending love ❤️
I don't watch sports but women sports are never talked about in the media even when they do it's all for the wrong reason 🙄 Women's sports players are sexualized and treated very poorly compared to males. At least that bald guy was kicked out 😅
The problem is that it's often impossible for the average person to watch women's sports because:
A. They're not broadcast on live TV on Free-to-Air
B. If they're broadcast on pay to view sports channels (Eurosport, ESPN, etc.), they usually have graveyard slots
C. No one promotes the existence of either form of broadcast if they do happen.
During the BBC's coverage of the UCI World Championships, half the women's road race wasn't even on TV - Claire Balding was talking about how great British people are, while the actual race (dominated by Dutch and Belgian women) was tucked away in a corner of the BBC iPlayer.
They aren't talked about as often because they don't generate the same revenue, viewership and interest that men's sports do. Even women watch men's sport more than they watch women's sports. Female players aren't sexualized either or treated poorly either, this is just patently false. In fact, federations have to bend over backwards to accommodate the ever growing demands of female football players and their political feminist handlers, as we've seen in Spain. I actually think the best thing would be for Women to have their own Federation so they can hire their own staff, no men if that's how they want it, they can handle the finances, sponsorships etc themselves. It makes it so much more straight forward and we will see less complaints and drama. Women's leagues are also loss making, so they have to be subsidized/paid for by the men's leagues, we will be happy to continue doing that, just leave the men's game alone.
@@vaska00762 Reality check - NO men's football is on free-to-air TV, it's all on paid sports channels. Welcome to real world!
in Australia, our two best performing sports broadcasts of all time are Cathy Freeman's sprint in the Olympics and the recent Matilda's football final - outperforming all of our other major sports grand finals (mens AFL, cricket and rugby league). so basically, you are very wrong. even tho they tv station paid so much less to broadcast women's world cup than any of those domestic series it outperformed THEM ALL. so the media and advertising and prime broadcast slots go to men so how is it unsurprising that it becomes a self fulfilling prophecy that they get more attention and money. gender bias is a scientifically proven thing that happens.
@@HighGrade159 you probably want to look into history a bit because the way womens sports have been restricted often specifically by sports organisations because they didn't want them taking money away from the mens sports is not an insignificant reason womens sports often fall behind in things like interest, viewership and revenue. So don't act like the whole situation is naturally the way it is, it's been manufactured that way and the least those organisations can do is give a little bit back to boost womens sports after literally banning/restricting them for decades to prioritise profits
Anytime someone is quoted saying "females", I can't help but think about the Ferengi from Star Trek.
Omg same 😂
👍🏾😆😅😂🤣👏🏾
It's so important to know all the positives of women (and especially girls!!) playing sports so that we understand what they want to "prevent" when they ban us from playing.
Thank you for breaking down what happened. When issues like this occur, as a woman, it is tough to listen over and over again to the lot of the media and people who justify and normalize this kind of horrid behavior. It's ridiculous how it is expected that the athletes accept these kinds of actions as if it's just the price to pay for the opportunity of being "allowed" to play and profit from the sport.
Hermoso: I didn't like it, it was gross.
Average male sports fan: YOU DIDN'T PUNCH HIM AFTER THO SO YOU ACTUALLY LIKED IT, THE FEMINISM IS ROTTING THIS COUNTRY
Im an Australian and the influence the matildas have had here is crazy. I was never into sport but watching the shootouts against france changed that !! The country has never cared about womens sport more. The government has pledged more funding towards local womens clubs in response to this
That is great, I admire Australia even more now for that
not to be bisexual, but you look sooooo good in the video and thumbnail, queen 🥰
NUMBER ONE COMMENT OF THIS VIDEOS
Right? My vote goes to the thumbnail
Even my mortgage money goes to the thumbnail
"Not to be bisexual" is hilarious 😂. I'm going to find reasons to use this.
Right like dayum!
As a Spaniard... I forgive you for how you pronounced those names lmao. Fr tho, thanks for covering this topic Tara
25:28 thank you very much for including this, omg. It sucks that it feels so validating seeing a man acknowledge reality but here we are
more outrage was made about hypothetical trans predators in sports than an actual cis man sexually harassing his own team. as a trans guy, this type of shit frustrates me to no end
A lefty talking about sports. I finally got my wish!
Emma Vigeland does a sports show 🙊
Check put Sports as a Weapon podcast. I don't know if its still going, but the content is amazing.
A few lefty content creators talked about football. I want to see one of them talk about motorsports.
Never heard of HITC sevens then.
Yipee for u!!
It makes me supremely happy that you refer to the win for Spain as a win for women and talk about the players themselves long before even hinting at what happened to Jenny. It's awful that the win and the women who dedicate their lives to the love of their game were overshadowed by a man's inappropriate behavior.
Idk if you’ve mentioned this but I think ‘Bend It Like Beckham’ is an awesome movie with women’s sport being treated with nuance and a sense of fun.
Didn't the coach in that movie end up getting sexually involved with one of his players?
@@MattMsk Should’ve put out a disclaimer about that bit. Sorry.
@@PokhrajRoy. It was a good movie otherwise from what I remember
@@MattMsk Yes, it’s good.
I thought she was a Pisces
As an ex-netballer (I was very bad and too short) I fully cosign your fear response to pivoting, possibly for different reasons.
Professional sport teaches such wonderful life lessons such as, "If you're making someone a lot of money, you can get away with assaulting people." Just wonderful.
Oh dear! Misogyny and money are ruining everything? Who could have possibly seen this coming!?
As a Utd fan, I am loathe to admit that Greenwood is not much of an outlier. When you have Giggs, Ronaldo, Overmars and now Anthony; that's starting to look like a systemic problem.
Hell yes, awesome video! I just wanna add one thing because it's super important and really shows the FA's hypocrisy - the WW1 period was a big time for women's football, because with women working in the factories while men were off fighting, they played football on their breaks and started forming teams. This was actually promoted as a good way to promote health and build strength and camaraderie (contrast that with the "football is too punishing for the delicate ladies" attitude when shutting down women's football after the men returned).
The FA itself gave support, allowing women to use team grounds and hold matches that pulled in a lot of money to help the war effort, charities and social programmes, etc. Since men's matches weren't really happening anymore, the women's teams basically filled that void, became really popular, and even had their own tournament (called the Munitionettes' Cup)! That's how you ended up with women's football so established and popular in 1920, even after the women were kicked out of their factory jobs - the Dick, Kerr Ladies were one of those factory teams, named after the place they'd been working at. The men's teams were back but couldn't draw the same crowds, so just like with the factory jobs, the FA said "thanks for all your work ladies, but go away now, the men are back to take their rightful place"
Hope this doesn't come off as too "well ACTUALLY" - that whole wartime period in women's football was really enlightening (and shameful) to me when I heard about it, so when Tara says "the BLFC went quiet" during that time I don't want people to think the factory work put the brakes on the sport. If anything I think it accelerated it and opened it up to a whole lot more women and the population in general! And it makes it extra infuriating how the FA threw women under the bus the way they did, so I'm glad the sport is finally getting the respect and recognition it had a dang century ago
thank you for including the angry male ally. it gives me a glimmer of hope to know that not every guy is garbage. and he was spitting facts. abusive relationships rarely look the way we expect them to. the abuse is emotional and manipulative as well. some victims never leave.
I went to a couple of games in Melbourne during the tournament. The Matildas' progress in the tournament on home soil brought Australia together. I hate that one man doing what he did overshadowed the Spanish team's victory after everything that team went through. The tournament was fantastic here, mostly full stadiums and high ratings, so I hope that the moment doesn't over take what a great tournament was and its legacy. Time will tell.
I live in San Diego and recently a woman’s soccer team came to our city. It’s been so cool to see the community so excited and supporting the team. I hope it only continues to grow. Also you are literally glowing. Looking absolutely gorg!
TARA THE HAIR YESS 🥰🥰
What changed I can't tell 🤔
She looks so goooood i love the hair ❤
I had never heard of netball and for a second thought it was a more fun way of saying volleyball.
I thought she meant basketball haha
Back in primary school there was only a boy's football team, I wanted to compete with them since I already played with them just as well but couldn't because I wasn't a boy. So got some help from friends and teachers to get the school to run a girls football club and compete.
To this day my primary school still runs both football teams and I'm glad to see it. On the other hand, I ended up playing men's football from year 8 onwards! Lol
That's proper cool man 🤝
"Playing with the boys" was your contribution to the rise of women's football.
👏🏾Good job.👍🏾
With the increasing popularity of women’s sports, especially soccer/football, comes an increasing discovery of how long they’ve been treated like crap under the shield of “nobody’s really watching anyway.”
I remember when the American women’s soccer team won the World Cup and even at first their higher ups were like “okay but like… why would we pay you more (or even the same) than ThE mEn” even though they were significantly more successful and that year were lowkey more popular. If they’d treat these women with the value they have not just as humans but as SUCCESSFUL ATHLETES in their job, they’d see women’s sports get even more popular (and profitable) by the day
You can quite the lie about the women making less.
the courts threw out the pay part of the case because it was shown the women actually made more
when presented with identical contracts Alex Morgan stated "why would we take less money, EQUAL ISN'T GOOD ENOUGH"
Just stop the BS that the women's team was not paid well or fairly
@@markprice5651tf women make more percentage wise
I watched the women’s FA cup final in Wembley a few years ago and it was a bizarre experience because it was such a positive, family friendly atmosphere compared to when I went to the men’s final as a child. Tickets were also £2 which I’m glad makes it accessible but I was also outraged at just how little the event was valued!! I felt like I absolutely should have had to pay more for a stadium final!!
For FYI. Though most men's supporters for Manchester United were absolutely against Mason's return, if it wasn't for that leak, I don't think they'd have kicked him out.
He's still technically a united player but on loan.
i'm aussie, and during the world cup the matildas were absolutely EVERYWHERE. although i'm really not into watching or playing sport, it was really nice seeing the country band together to support young, mostly queer, women.
thank you for the great video as always!
Proud to say that my sister played for West Ham from the early 80s to the early 90s. I had the pleasure of being a stand-in referee for their away match at Tottenham back in 1991 when the official official was involved in a car crash. Being a Gooner I was totally unbiased. I still find some of the things said about the women's game is really patronising.
Got my ticket for the Arsenal v Liverpool WSL match, another packed house at the Emirates hopefully. Will fist bump if I see you.
I saw FAR too many comments after the Rubiales incident that were using logic that essentially justified date rape. "she wasn't harmed(???), she didn't fight back, she didn't say no, she gave him a hug)
The fact that so many people proudly announced they cannot make the difference between enthusiastic consent and assault is crazy !
I was in a pub the other day and both screens were playing women's rugby league, I was so happy!
Ironically I felt pretty ostracized for NOT playing sports in high school. All of my girlfriends were into sports. I have never been competitive or into sports but that’s obviously just because of who I am as a person. I was a theater/music/art kid 😁Anyway I just lived in one of those towns where everyone was into sports and I always felt weird for not being into sports.
Me too but it’s with family
Sheffield's very similar where loads of people are hugely into sports and it can be alienating. When I was younger picking between Sheff Wendy and Sheff Urinal was a binary choice you couldn't avoid.
The end couldn't be more prophetic. It happened again, in the same club, as the player brought in to replace Greenwood is now indicted on domestic violence charges.
Still, the development of the PL and its equivalent in Spain and France do show that the future is bright.
(Although even my club, Olympique Lyonnais, arguably the european standard and the most succesful club on the continent still has massive issues in how management treats the players).
No lie, that football shirt suits you so well that I didn't realise it was you in the thumbnail - I just thought you were part of the stock imagery 😅
I remember when I got to play baseball and found out that I really like it, and then finding out that there was no women's team where I live, even the ping-pong team was male only; the only two sports that I really loved playing were unreachable for me was disappointing.
As for the football, it's really great that the women tournaments are getting more popular!, in my country there was a 1st division league but it was not broadcasted, four years ago it started and the stadiums were almost empty, mostly player's families, but with the time and more coverage now the stadiums are full, the finals are talked about and old men (my country is sadly still pretty much sexist) can admit that some matches are better than their male counterparts.
And I think, the popularity and the increase in interest in the women cup is what made this situation a little bit better, with so many people watching it was undeniable what happened and the outrage was bigger than FIFA expected that they had to step in (we all know that they wouldn't done it otherwise); and even with all sane people defending Hermoso I still hear people (my own brother is one of them) trying to say that it was a trap to have him resigned because they party with him and never reported anything before and she didn't reacted after it, that is so mess up.
I just hope this helps women sports, not only football, to be more visible in both the good and the bad so the ones in the wrong can be held accountable.
TW: Story about being touched in public transport
I was touched inappropriately by a man in public transport, he apologized because 'it was an accident' and I from the shock I just smiled and say: 'it's ok', and then he proceed to continue to do it and I stay quiet then hours later I broke down crying blaming myself because I said 'it's ok', I gave him the go ahead even when I was just accepting his apology; so yeah, it takes time so sink in, takes time to process what happen and more time to move from the self-guilt and put it on the real culprit.
I'm from Argentina. The barriers footballers experience here are insane when you consider how we treat the men's game. Football is semi-professional for women, meaning many have to keep jobs outside of football to survive. Our national team had to strike in 2018 to ask the federation for better conditions (aka clothes that fit, a place to sleep during away games that isn't their bus). The last coach was in his post for 23 YEARS despite terrible results and refusing to call up some of our best players for his own personal reasons. The new coach is doing the same, and his poor management of the team blew our chances of advancing in the world cup. Don't even get me started on the amount of SA allegations. Things are getting better but it's too slow, especially for the NT. We need change, and fast.
PS: Fun Fact on the 1970 unofficial World Cup, Argentina beat England 4-0, and it was the first time a NT from Argentina beat an English team. That match is remembered every year as National Female Footballer's Day in Argentina!
Lumauro. Fun fact there are men who area million times better that women who are getting paid to plays football. The only reason they are being paid is because they are women
It’s also because our PE teachers bully us into hating sports during our formative years
Yes!!! I liked sports as a little kid but then it stops being about healthy exercise and having fun and becomes team sports and some jerk with a whistle is screaming at you and everyone takes it too seriously. I thought it was supposed to be about having fun
boys screaming at you because you missed the ball in gym class, like it’s not that serious I swear
in Australia - which is hardly a feminist utopia - our two best performing sports broadcasts of all time are Cathy Freeman's sprint in the Olympics and the recent Matilda's football final - outperforming all of our other major sports grand finals (mens AFL, cricket and rugby league). the tv station paid peanuts to broadcast women's world cup and it outperformed THEM ALL. press, advertising and prime broadcast slots go to mens sports so it's becomes a self fulfilling prophecy that they get more attention and money. i think all Australians football fans are hoping this changes now.
I remember attending Judo at my elementary school, and being the only girl there- the coach was delighted to see me go and encouraged me to do my best (and I did), and I really enjoyed it, but the way all the boys would treat me was horrible. They teased and made fun of me in the changing room. They straight up refused to practice with me, always leaving one boy they apparently disliked and he hated me so much, probably feeling ashamed of having to practice with a girl, ew. He would perform the moves very forcefully, and I was also attending Aikido at the same time- they always told us to take care of your partner, to make sure you didn't hurt them. So I would try my best to be like that during Judo as well, and in return would get aggressively thrown onto the mat until I lost my patience and dished it all back to him, which often ended with him crying, considering I was also riding my bike and going to the pool at that time.
When one day we had mini tournament at the end of practice, I have never seen a coach or any other teacher of mine look so proud when I managed to defeat one of the boys with my favourite techinque. I lost to the next one because, well, the boy was bigger and stronger and simply pushed me out of bounds.
I'll never forget how I had to come up to the coach and apologise that I can't attend Judo anymore because we can't afford for me to go to 3 different activities and my parents want me to focus on school.
I'm over 20 now, and I can barely catch a bus. Lack of exercise straight up makes me feel bad, but I just can't find the energy to do anything after 8 hours of sitting by the desk at work. It drains your energy in that particular way. And I can't imagine feeling any other way than awkward, trying to do the things I used to.
Here in the States during the Women’s World Cup, everyone I talked to correctly assumed I meant the USWNT when talking about the sport. The USWNT is just so much better than the Men’s team that it helps with the popularity of it here.
I’m not into football, but man… I remember both my uncle and brother telling me “women’s football is different from men’s” and after asking what that meant, they explained it’s “not as good, not as technically impressive” like…the techniques? Idk man, sucks to hear. I really turn off when people talk like that, I’m not even gonna acknowledge your existence anymore lol.
Glad to see some coverage on the topic! I feel like nobody ever talks about it.
I mean, it is "not as technically" impressive. But male football was also less technical when it started. Football is not an old sport and women football is even younger. It can and it will get better, it just needs more support
My daughters team consists lost to boys two age groups younger. And they won multiple championships and cups.
This is what happens when all of Hollywood considers a 'British' accent to be exclusively and only posh London, maybe a touch of Oxford. Literally, how else are they supposed to know if you're Scottish or not when they have almost NEVER HEARD A SCOTTISH ACCENT IN THEIR LIFE, and if they did, it wasn't identified as such, just "bandit #4" or "some dwarf".
I appreciated the Trainspotting reference, not least of all because requiring Ewan McGregor to drop his fairly posh and understandble Edinburgh accent to play Christian in Moulin Rouge annoys the living shit out of me (no French accents? Not even for the local performers? No, not in Paris) because, again, even Australians don't understand that the UK is four separate countries. This makes me so MAD, it's so STUPID.
Do you know when they play Taggart in the states on cable, it's subtitled? HOW ARE YOU GOING TO LEARN WHEN YOU WON'T EVEN ENGAGE YOUR EARS?!
I assume what you mean by "drop his [...] accent" is put on another accent...
Americans probably think of that accent as ‘the British accent’ because ages ago you had to have that type of posh accent to become an actor in British films. Classism shit and all that. Until Michal Caine I think, who has a cockney accent started acting.
@@jvgreendarmok .... no, I mean that an Edinburgh accent is HIS natural accent, it is intrinsic to who he is and how he naturally expressed himself. Asking people to switch accents for no reason, and there is no plausible reason for it to be switched in Moulin Rouge, is problematic and misinformative. Christian being English as opposed to Scottish doesn't change a single thing about the movie, except to shorthand that he's rich and British. You can be rich and British and Scottish, but for some reason, they thought that wouldn't work as well.
I don't appreciate the patronising and culturally insensitive tone your comment implied. You assumed wrong, dude.
@@HiBuddyyyyyyhis good looks meant he was one of the first working class actors to be cast as a lead, but the studio wanted him to do his first lead role with an RP accent anyway till he refused to comply
That Joey Knight Podcast was amazing! Love seeing a man being passionate against domestic abuse.
Thank you for talking about it. I'm Spanish and I'm so tired of both men and women saying that the ONLY reason a man "with his power and position" could behave that intimate towards one of his players it's because they should have had a SECRET RELATIONSHIP. AS IF S.A. ONLY TOOK PLACE IN CLOSED SPACES AND BETWEEN COUPLES (?????) Or that public figures aren't veiled by their organisations covering and justifying their acts.
Not only that, during the match, he constantly grabbed his b*lls in front of the camera while screaming "in celebration", and still he sees nothing wrong with doing it so.
I only say this: if this gross ass man behaves likes this in public, in front of a bunch of cameras, I do not doubt he's totally unpleasant to be around in private.
Media needs to CONDEMN this acts.
Finding out Tara is an Arsenal fan makes this such a sad day. As long as the Cow that writes the scripts isn't an Arsenal fans as well my day may not be totally ruined.
Plot Twist: the cow’s a Tottenham supporter
the cow is a Forest Green Rovers supporter. If you know you know
makes me like her more
COGY
@@whitnay07come on gou yooners?
Can you imagine allowing women to kick a ball at a net? Lock em up.
As an American (gross) I personally really enjoy soccer! I also played myself as a youngin. I really appreciate you raising awareness on these issues! Thank you. I love your videos sooooo much! 🙏🏻
There’s nothing gross about that lmao. Don’t let these internet trolls (who are from some of the sickest and genocidal countries *cough* *cough*, imperialists and literal nazis) tell you otherwise! 👍🏽
Your hair is aspirational. I think that you would be interested in the sports show Emma Vigeland does. Sports are above me but this is a very interesting video on the topic.
The Matilda's were the talk of the town during the women's world cup for very good reason. And generally everyone was really into it and watched the games moreso than the Socceroo's (mens team) which made the angry men and the murdoch media that fuel them look even more silly and pathetic making snide comments about womens sport when it was the #1 veiwed TV event in Australia and they've achieved more than the Socceroos ever have we have some of the best players (Sam Kerr!) and I haven't even mentioned the Lesbians!
An important note in Rubiales' case is that female players on the Spanish national team have been protesting and openly complaining about their working conditions and the behaviour of their bosses for decades without any consequences. A few years ago, when they protested against the now fired coach Jorge Vilda, Spanish sports media either reported they were protesting without mentioning why (his lack of skill+being a creep) or outright attacked them as if they were demanding too much; it was really frustrating to watch. No wonder Rubiales felt like he didn't need to resign at first, even if his behaviour was seen live by millions around the world; impunity has always been kind of a thing in the Royal Spanish Football Federation.
The fact that women's football has been banned in the UK and other places is insane tbh. It certainly throws into perspective those who belittle it for its lack of tradition, etc... 🤔
yeah, if you look into it more it's quite a common thing for sports in general. Also the creation of womens divisions in sport only happening when a woman competed in the sport and beat the men, which meant they had to create womens sections or risk the shame of loosing to women or just ban them entirely.
It wasn’t banned. Just not on FA pitches. There wast a law women cannot play football
seeing women's soccer rise in popularity has also reignited my love for the game recently, but the rampant misogyny, homophobia, racism, abuse of power, corrupt politics, etc is definitely still as big of a problem as it ever was, and it's important for fans and players to bring attention to these things rather than continuing to ignore them. also, on a lighter note, i wish non-US women's league matches were more easily accessible to watch here, would love to be able to go to a bar with some friends and watch a women's arsenal game there, COYG ❤
I went to nearly all the games in Sydney (except the final, it sold out months before the WWC started) but it was incredible seeing these games in my own backyard! Keen to see the local interest translate to more people interested in our local top-tier league (A-League) for both Mens and Womens (womens memberships are at an all time high), and for future players in our grassroots level competitions
I hate the argument of “women’s athletes are just less skilled” because even if it were true, you could make the same argument about college and high school athletes and lower league teams, yet those sports still have tons of investment and an audience.
College football coaches in the SEC in the US are some of the highest paid college professionals in the country. But if you put the highest ranked programs like Alabama or Ohio State against even a mid NFL team, they’d most likely get blown out.
So skill level is not an argument for lack of investment, it’s literally just a circular logic “women less skilled”-->less investment in training, facilities, and women’s leagues--> less promotion of the game--> less people watch the games--> reinforces the belief that women are just inherently less skilled and women’s sports are not valuable.
Also Intermural competition is a thing and women’s athletes can and do win against men’s athletes.
Sports being divided into skill level and weight classes just makes more sense, there is so much variation in the body types of just Cis men and Cis Women, before you even get into trans athletes.
Even if you believe trans athletes should be segregated in a separate league, considering how much conservative sports fans don’t give a shit about women’s sports until they can use it as a culture war issue against Trans people, no trans athlete would have the ability to sustain the lifestyle of a professional athlete if there is no investment in the sport.
I love amateur level sports, especially amateur level LGBTQ leagues, but they don’t put food on the table.
Just look at how difficult it is to sustain a new professional sports league, remember the USFL, the XFL? Hell even the PAC-12, an established conference is in danger of folding after this season because other conferences poached their teams.
Who the fuck is financing the Trans league, Laverne Cox?
All these arguments boil back to the same Biological Essentialism, Women=Female=Weak, Men=Male=Strong.
For some people, that belief is so ingrained in their minds that presenting any evidence to the contrary will make them move the goalposts(hey sports pun😅), you can point out Trans women on HRT having similar or lower levels of Testosterone in their systems than their Cis competitors, they’ll move to “structural advantages” as if Cis Women are incapable of having muscles, broad shoulders, naturally higher bone density, larger lung capacity, height, etc. Trans men athletes get shafted by this too, High School Wrestler Mack Beggs was forced to wrestle against girls in competitions, and when he won people claimed it was “unfair” despite the fact that the school district in Texas made it legally impossible for him to compete with Boys. Patricio Manuel is a Trans Man Boxer, he is 3-0 in professional bouts, all his opponents were Cis, and yet his manager is having trouble scheduling fights for him because potential opponents keep bowing out afraid to “lose to a girl” despite Manuel being on HRT for years.
While all sports are ripe with Systemic Abuse, Women’s athletes are also ripe for victimization in other unique forms of systemic abuse, Women’s Figure Skating is actually considered superior to Men’s figure skating in most figure skating circles, though it’s gotten more level with talent like Yuzuru Hanyu changing up the men’s game. The women’s figure skating athletes often have incredibly short primes as well as debuting younger and younger, and are quite literally groomed by coaches to develop eating disorders and power through injuries to the point that a 20-year old woman in the world of Figure Skating is already considered “past her prime”.
When you have to overcome so much additional bullshit with less structural support or opportunities to go Pro, obviously you are gonna be less invested in sports.
And that de-investment is pointed to as “natural” and not the results of systems. Even when you win, you lose.
I work in a school and a girl's football after-school club was opened and the attendance has been amazing - they're thinking they might need another PE coach to come and help because there's so many girls! It's really heartening to see young girls getting excited for football, having idols in the Lionesses and wanting to improve and learn more. We still have a long way to go but I'm glad things are getting better, albeit slowly.
OH MY GOSH YOU’RE A GUNNER! You’re even cooler now 😁
I watched boys play for years. In my native country, it was not encouraged and opportunities were scarce. It wasonly when I came to the states and at age 13 that I got to play. Can not tell you the joy it brought me. But no matter how good I got, there was always, “ you are great for a girl”. Finally after collage by accident I got to play in a competitive men’s league. These were the same college players I would be often unfavorably compared to. To be honest the men were only apprehensive the first time they saw me, then they didn’t care. But every mistake I made I felt like I was ruining it for every woman . I wished I could have fully enjoyed those times without a chip on my shoulder but what I did learn was that I can play with and against men, and their game was better by design and coed playing should be encouraged.
It's always so ridiculously archaic when I hear about these "bans" on women participating in certain sports. Like how women were banned from marathons.
i'm so glad you're making a video about women's football! I've always loved football and I never got why any sport has the association of it being intrinsically for boys; when I came out as a trans woman to my dad, he said I act and enjoy manly things, such as football, so i can't be a woman. I'm really happy women's football is getting more recognition and I'm really glad it's becoming less common to say sports, and football mainly, are for boys only. I hate the fact that, after coming out, people assumed I couldn't play football or enjoy it anymore. It's silly.
What's also silly is separating sports by gender, especially with how enbies get either cast aside or play in the AGAB side for them. Silly. Anyway, YNWA!
Edit: Really glad you talked about Greenwood too, that situation is absurd, but I also kind of expected Antony to be mentioned too given his situation as well and how Man U have handled it (or even comparatively how they have stood by these *alleged* abusers while they shunned Sancho despite his mental health issues). There's also something to be said about the women players being included in next year's FIFA (now called EA FC but anyway) in Ultimate Team, which is huge for getting people interested in the sport, but also the abuse that those women players have received from misogynists who don't want to play with the women. Anyway, great video! Just think there are some other topics worth noting beyond what you said but really glad to see you talking about football :D
Hey fellow Liverpool fan❤❤❤ and I fee you on the issue EA FC. It is fun seeing a bunch of men whining about seeing women in Ultimate team
She's coming off the high of her massive win in front of millions both live and on TV. And in that moment her coach -- someone in a position of power, unprompted, kisses her right on the mouth. In front of millions. But she's getting critique for not having the presence of mind to react like the "proper" victim?
Completely off-topic but your hair is ABSOLUTELY STUNNING in this video. I am SHAKEN!
"which is the equivalent of 40k today" in the grim darkness of football
In the grim darkness of the far future, there is only footie
Wow, it’s been a battle. I’m so happy women’s soccer is on the rise. I feel like it’s the last segment of soccer that hasn’t been tainted by corporate greed, the beauty of the sport still shines through.
But alas, it can’t just be women doing their best without men gate crushing and undermining the hard work that these passionate athletes put in. I really hope we reach a level higher than this when it comes to decorum in sports and that we respect every athlete equally.
Thank you, for shining a light on this, and expressing your love of the (not always) beautiful game. Great Video ❤❤❤
Women Soccer RULES!!!
My wee sister always wanted to play rugby at school but she was the only girl who came to training. Coach was really good tho and he used to chuck a scrum cap on her and get he in with lads. Even won a few tournaments for the under 13s side. She had to stop when the lads hit puberty tho. Luckily she was able to sort out a girls hockey team but the support from the school was almost non-existent with no strips of their own (they had to wear the boys rugby strips) and no permanent coach. And it was such a shame cause it clearly meant a lot especially to the younger quines cause it let them meet others in different age groups and develop team work skills. Even afrer shes left school we still get younger girls coming up to her to talk abt the hockey.
These things are important and its so important that womens sport get the support it needs with it constantly be shot down because it really matters.
I came for the Arsenal jersey and stayed for the analysis ❤
Social assassination? Just…don’t kiss people without consent? How stupid can people possibly be
Even easier than consent, just don't kiss employees of yours. Is business 1.0 (even if businessmen love to ignore it)
Mary "queen of stops" goes hard ngl
So good to see a video about footy in your channel, Tara, didn't know you were a fan of the sport. My appreciation for covering this topic and for evey other journalists that have been brave enough to speak about it (specially people from The Athletic have been top notch covering this issues).. As a Liverpool supporter, I respect the banter from a gunner.
As a Spanish I have to congratulate you on your pronunciation of Spanish names, because you have said Hermoso's last name always well, but have butchered Rubiales' name all the time, which has been * cheff's kiss *
(great video, by the way)
The WC match between Australia and France broke national viewing records. More people watched the Matildas than the AFL Grand Final which says a lot for a country with such a macho football code in Aussie Rules.
They delayed AFL games and news broadcasts for the Matildas games, it says so much about how important people considered the Matildas games to be!
I was at the Freo/WCE Derby match and they had the Tillie's and France game on the stadium screens. When the AFL teams started to make their way out they all got booed because they were changing the screens over from the penalties to the footy players. Never in a million years would I imagine a West Coast derby getting booed for starting on time until that night. The whole stadium went absolutely crazy when we won the shootout. Better atmosphere for the Tillie's game than the actual footy lmao.
Such a wonderful experience honestly.
I didn’t know I needed sporty Tara til now and I can’t go back!
I've recently become a huge fan of the womens arsenal team and have become obsessed with womens football in general .So happy ur covering this , u wouldn't believe the amount of people ik who I've argued with endlessly who just don't believe in the advocacy of women's football. it's shocking , a very long way go to in terms of attitudes towards it and a lot to undo , even now . Its disappointing to say the least
Always nice to have your sexist challenged in a good way, and at work we recently had an AMAB NB join us and they came to Friday Football after work.
That's so good to happen, I thought. We'll have to give them a nice start.
They're amazing and I got the ball off them once in 2 hours. Was like trying to tackle Paolo Wanchope.