I've discovered the Heat shootout WAS based on a real shootout in Chicago in 1964, so Stephen was right all along. The real Neil Macauley and his crew had just robbed a store and were coming back out with $13,000 ($125,000 in 2023 money) when they were ambushed by the real Vincent Hanna and his officers. Two of Macauley's crew were shot dead in the street and Macauley ran off, chased on foot by Detective Chuck Adamson (Al Pacino's character) who ended up shooting Macauley six times then held the robber's hand as he died.
Fun fact, the North Hollywood robbers had a copy of Heat at their house meaning that the North Hollywood Shootout was actually based on Heat not the other way around.
You have a DeNiro quality yourself lol, what a magnificent movie. That scene where Kilmer thinks he's in the clear and goes into Kill Mode in a tenth of a second is astounding.
Same as when he comes home and smiles to his honey and she waves a finger and the smile vanishes from his face, and he just KNOWS, and moves on. Kilmer was absolutely terrific in this movie. As was everybody, really.
I’m live in Norway, and I remember thinking when the NOKAS-robbery went down in 2004 that it felt like something out of this movie. There was even a downtown shootout where a cop was shot. Still the biggest heist ever in Norway. Made a movie about it in 2010, could be worth checking out.
This scene inspired the mission "Three Leaf Clover" in GTA 4. It had a comedic beginning driving to the bank, but ended in a running battle. Worth downloading just for this one mission.
Tremendous film, great cast and a great ending. Pacino and De Niro play there parts so well as they always do. First class film enjoyed this review Stephen 👏
Just for info... Deniro and Pacinos characters were based on two real people who in fact did sit down and have a coffee together hence that iconic scene
I remember seeing a video where someone army or marines said his instructor told him, while screening the film, if you can't change a magazine and get on point as fast as Val Kilmer, Get out of my unit! One of my favorite films of all time, infinitely rewatchable, and the soundtrack OMG. Bought it. The film too. "The Sound of God Across the Waters" by Moby. Who wouldn't let it be included in the soundtrack. Just so many terrific things about this movie all around,, and a master class in acting by DeNiro.
The shootout is epic, but I think the movie 'Thief' is actually a better film. Same director, but better script. James Caan gives the performance of a lifetime.
SAS hero Andy McNab was involved in the making of the shootout scene and it is by a long way the best one ever put on film. it was so good they used the original sound recording of it as it was better than the over dub in editing .
There was a scene before this that the robbers disabled the security system in the garage building of the national bank a day before they start to rob it. Now that was pure professionalism.
De Niro's character is based on an armed robber in Chicago. In the extras on the DVD Dennis Farina talks about him, he was in Snatch and used to be a policeman in Chicago.
I appreciate your candor in these videos. Not many people who do talk about these kinds of crimes are able to keep from mythologizing themselves or what they've done, if they've actually done any of it at all. Just want to thank you.
"At this level", as Mr. Gilles puts it, sets this crew apart. Neil is engaged in his profession. So is his crew, although the other team members know McCauley has the brains. To one degree or another, either of these guys could've been quite successful on the straight-and-narrow. For whatever reason though, as Michael Cerrito puts it, "For me, it's about the 'juice '". Interestingly, both he and the others, like the same "edge" Vincent says he's got to be on to be sharp. They're on the same razor, just different sides.
3:20 "people need to realise - money is really heavy!" ... I mean, I know it was gold bars (which is altogether a different ball game) but when the Brinks Mat guys stumbled onto that fortune they only had a little van to get away in, lol. They somehow loaded up all that gold and apparently the bumper was scraping along the ground when they drove off 🤣
The best action shooting scenes in any movie up to that time and IMO even since. People always celebrate the bank robbery scene, which is obscenely gripping, but I think the drive-in scene was also an absolutely heart-stopping sequence too. There were softer interpersonal moments too that were put together so well, and so incredibly economically, not at all interfering with the pace of the story, that have stayed with me so easily, and, I think, launched a couple of careers.
Coincidentally the armoured vehicle scene in this movie inspired french armed robber Redoine Faid, who went so far as to state that he considered Michael Mann to be his mentor of sorts. ps: Always thought you had a touch of the Robert de Niro about you Stephen, you definitely share certain mannerisms!
That's brilliant info. And yes he is like DeNiro how he carries himself isn't he haha. My grandfather was actually very alike to him too. You'd swear they were brother's. And my grandfather was also a very well known robber too. Strange world.
I work for the media covering conflict and wars, and not ONE Hollywood movie even comes close to sounding like a real shootout...except heat, They used the real audio from the set of the shootout and you can tell, the mass of noise you hear in a gunfight is insane, its like a wall of noise, but in most movies you hear individual shots or people talking, which is not the case in real life, Heat to this day is my fave, realistic crime film.
Thank you & Brilliant Analysis Stephen of one of my favourite films of all time! I dont know how Neil's Crew managed to enter the bank with military grade weapons hidden under their suit jackets without any staff members noticing.
I can imagine that lugging all that money might have been like lugging around phone books. Worst is your probably not grabbing anything bigger than 20s
It's understandable to think the Heat shootout is based on the North Hollywood shootout, but the North Hollywood shootout happened in 1997, Heat came out in 1995. When the real shootout happened, everyone was thinking Heat. Also, with 2,000 bullets fired on public roads, it's amazing only the two robbers died that day.
I'll have to watch this again. The shootout scene was so loud on my surround set up. It was good in the cinema but you could really ramp it up at home. Probably De Niro's last really good acting role.
@@jnicholls21Irishman was terrible. As someone who’s loved DeNiro and Scorsese since I’ve been a kid, I walked out of the theater- that’s how bad it was. Awful.
@@Kyle-ys3cv I watched the whole Criterion edition of it. I enjoyed it to a point, but it wasn't great, of course. Just not up to a Goodfellas level. I still enjoyed it for the ground it covered and history, etc.
@@Kyle-ys3cv Well, it certainly wasn't even in the realm of his best movies, that's for sure. I thought Killers of the Flower Moon was ok, but far too long.
If anything, the North Hollywood shootout based itself on this movie, rather than the other way around, lol. I think this movie came out in 1995 and the North Hollywood robbery was 1997. Maybe there was another earlier big shootout though that this film was based upon (America certainly isn't lacking for them) but the North Hollywood one is the famous one everyone remembers
I was gonna say the same thing! Heat dropped in ‘96. The North Hollywood shootout went down in ‘97. Afterwards the cops even found a copy of Heat in a VCR owned by one of the robbers. I seem to recall that some of the characters (Neal, at least) were based loosely on actual people.
This was actually based on a real Neil McCauley He operated in Chicago in the late 50's early 60's and the cop chasing him had respect for him, the Cafe scene was also real McCauley served 7 yr in Alcatraz five in the hole, and he was in McNeil prison, The scene when the crew are working on a bank while Pacino's men are in a truck and one lets his rifle hit the interior of the van was true and they walked, I don't think the crew took down really large scores like in the film. And the advisor on the films firearms training was Andy McNab from "Bravo.2.Zero." It was all on the DVD special features
In the '97 North Hollywood shootout the cops were actually debating for 40 minutes on letting them get away just to end the onslaught. Eventually they got to a gun dealer's store and he supplied them with AR's and plenty of ammunition.
It's interesting you mentioned that "for armed robbers, it's not about getting in, it's about getting out," because I recently watched a documentary on John Dillinger, and he said the exact same thing. One reason why Dillinger always got away before the authorities could catch up with him was because the escape was thoroughly planned much more than the insertion. "Where are the nearest police stations, which routes are they likeliest to take to reach the bank, which escape routes are optimal for OUR wheelman, where are the closest county and state lines so the police no longer have jurisdiction --" (Read More) Dillinger's wheelmen would scout out the routes physically in their cars with a map in hand and memorize a list of directions and landmarks, similar to Rally racers and their co-drivers. That way, when the men got back in the car with loot in hand, the driver would just hit the gas and take a series of turns that would lead them out of the town or city before the police could get a bead on them.
Mate! Take a look at yourself at 13:50 when you look to your right and down. Spitting image of DeNiro! I'll require 10% finders fee of any movie deals you get as a result of this discovery;)
and if you look in the credits it was Andy McNab of the infamous "story" Bravo Two Zero who did the choreography for the firefight, with traditional British Army fire and manoeuvre tactics.
Hi Steven, another good review. I always say I robbed a lot of banks, but not with guns, with confidence and good intentions, I cashed the cheques and used the cards but never could paid them back. now I owe no man anything - debts paid in full. No credit no loans. I work and spend what I have and that enough my friend - have a good one
This guy is the most ‘gangstery’ character I’ve ever seen - if I had to pick out of a lineout a guy who was most likely a gangster in the past it would be this guy….mostly, strangely enough, from his accent!!
Your best one so far really enjoyed that .. would be interesting to see you review in the name of the father .. with the fact where you were born also been cat A .. thanks in advance
I remember back in the 90s there was a famous pair of armed robbers in LA. I think they were from Russia or eastern Europe. They had head to toe body armor on and automatic weapons. The cops in LA at the time were not equipped to deal with this from their standard patrol cars. They had to call in special units that had proper rifles to take them down. I think it was after this event that they started putting rifles as somewhat standard equipment in patrol cars, often kept in the trunk. Before that it was just pistols and shotguns. If you go back to the 1970s and earlier they mostly just had .38 revolvers as standard issue.
Good point about the weight of millions of €$.I have no experience of anything like that but have wondered about the level of planning not just getting in and out but the finer details like the weight..crazy man..
This film is actually a remake of Mann's 1989 TV version called L.A. Takedown. That was nowhere near as long and drawn out as this one though. Different actors too.
Regarding the comment that the police will let robbers complete the score to make their case airtight, there was a scene dealing with that issue earlier in the film. The same crew was burglarizing a metal storage facility and the same police unit was surveilling them. They were waiting in surveillance or tactical vans while the crew was cracking the safe, and one of the cops made a noise that was out of place on a dark empty street. Robert DeNiro's character, Neil, heard it, and then ordered the crew to drop the job and walk away. The cops saw the crew coming out of the building, but the black guy warned Al Pacino's character Vincent, that they were not carrying anything. So he ordered the other officers to sit still and let the crew walk. When one of the uniformed officers objected, he made that very point that the video did, that all they could pin on the thieves was a breaking and entering charge, which would put them back on the street in mere months. He wanted to catch them with something that would get them hard prison time. Of course, the drawback of this approach, was that the thieves were aware they had been made and were able to turn the tables on the police and lose their surveillance. If not for rival criminals who had crossed the gang and feared their retaliation, protecting themselves by tipping off the police, the gang would have succeeded in ripping off the bank as well. Basically, that strategy failed, and caused a lot of destruction and loss of life that might have been prevented had Vincent been satisfied with charging four men with breaking and entering and calling it a night. Regarding taking the shot on Tom Sizemore, I think the portrayal of Vincent is that he wants to win no matter what, and he's going to take risks and endanger lives because he thinks its the best way to save lives.
its based on the north hollywood shootout/bank robbery and it did last for a long time, they had full body armour head to toe and they had light machine guns with 200-250 round box magazines plus multiple extra box magazines. the robbers where armed and armoured better then the actual police and sheriff departments at the time. it was nation wide headline news here in the US at the time.
Yes if I am not mistaken the cops actually had to go to a local gun shop and get the weapons they needed as this was happening in real time because they were out gunned.
@@danielcampbell9457 I reall loved how Michael Mann depicted the Stagard Column formation for the forward suppression fire to escape. Very skillfully done and from what I understand about military tactics very realistic.
It isn't based on the Hollywood shootout ... unless someonee invented time travel. The Hollywood shootout was in 1997, HEAT was released in 1995. They didn't have light machine guns with 200-250 rd box magazines. They had AK pattern rifles illegally converted to fire in fun mode, with some drum magazines as well as regular mags. You are correct in that the robbers were heavily armed and had aquired, or constructed, (I heard that they had constructed the body armour, but I may be mis-remembering that information), body armour. The police that responded were armed typically at the time with revolvers, self loading pistols and shotguns, which while effective if they hit an unarmoured part of the robbers, were all but useless against the armoured bits There is a story attached to this shootout that the police sent someone to local gun store/s to 'borrow' some AR-15 rifles in order to get the extra punch required to defeat the body armour worn by the robbers, but I can't recall if that story has ever been confirmed as true ... there is also a photo floating around out there of an LAPD SWAT officer in a t-shirt, shorts, vest and weapon who was supposedly responsible for killing one of the robbers. It wasn't just headline news in the US, I was 20 at the time and living in New Zealand on the other side of the world, and the shootout was being broadcast almost live on CNN (that we could get) as well as our own local TV stations.
Stephen Gillen Have you reviewed THIEF yet with James Caan (early Michael Mann)? Has become one of my favorite crime drama films of all time over the years. I missed it in 1981 when it first came out, somehow. Was young then and didn't realize how much of it was based on real life/real guys including the guy that wrote the book The Home Invaders. Caan in that movie is more of a sheer technician, of course. The job has to be inside, and up to a certain level or he won't even consider it.
The incident Stephen refers to lasted 72 mins which is the name of the film that tells the story, strangely after cops killed both robbers when searching their flat they found the video of Heat in the player! Proof positive this isn't based on it but hey I'm a Michael Mann fanatic, also original film was called LA Takedown again by Michael Mann. Please review either movie Mr Gillen, please!!
There was a made for TV movie based on the North Hollywood Shootout that aired on FX in June of 2003, and it was actually named 44 Minutes: The North Hollywood Shootout. The most notable impact of that film was that it funded a number of Michael Madsen’s mortgage payments, and later inspired a song by Megadeth that was also named “44 Minutes.” The actual incident was historically significant for a number of reasons. One of those being the length of time the actual shootout lasted before the suspects were finally taken down by the police. Obviously the reason it lasted so long was because it was the first police shootout where the suspects were both equipped with tactical rigs and Type IIIA body armor reinforced with ballistic plates to protect vital organs, as well as homemade armor for their limbs-which was far more substantial than what the police had at that time. It wasn’t the first time that suspects had used high powered rifles against police, because there had been multiple shootouts in the 70’s and 80’s preceding the incident, but these guys were the first to use semi-automatic rifles that were illegally converted to fully automatic, and loaded with 100-round drum magazines. For perspective, when you hear the media use words like “high capacity magazine” in their description of a firearm, depending on the jurisdiction, that could mean anything that holds more than 10-rounds. The most commonly available sizes being in the range of 15 to 30-rounds-which means that they could fire 3-10x the number of rounds before they needed to reload. Most importantly, that was also an inflection point in modern policing policies, government spending, and tactics, because when police realized they were outgunned and unable to penetrate their armor, they raided a local gun shop in order to get their hands on similar rifles that could actually take them down. From that point on, police departments have been militarized from coast to coast to prevent that from ever happening again. The events that actually inspired the film Heat took place between 1961 and 1964, and they were far less action-packed than what made it into the film-so most of the screenplay was either purely fictional or an amalgamation of a variety of different sources. The mostly true-to-life aspects of the story that actually made it into the film were the name of Robert De Niro’s character, Neil McCauley, the scene where he met with the detective for coffee which was based on an actual conversation they had, and the basic outline of the plot being about a crew of guys led by McCauley that successfully committed a number of armed robberies/heists until they were tracked down by a detective who kept tabs on them until he was finally able to spring a trap that ended in a shootout where most of them died in a hail of gunfire, except for one guy (that Val Kilmer’s character was very loosely based on) who survived the initial ambush by shooting his way out, but that only lasted a couple of days before he was arrested. Anyways, my point is that Heat was an amazing film based on a fairly mediocre heist with a quirky story, that ultimately ended up inspiring the craziest heist in American history, which forever changed the fundamental nature of policing, and it turned even the smallest rural departments into the militarized police forces we know today. So, just remember that whenever you see over policing, where cops are brutalizing and/or executing unarmed civilians in the streets-you can indirectly thank Michael Mann, Al Pacino, Robert De Niro and Val Kilmer for being the catalyst behind all of that unchecked authoritarian violence.
Yeah although the video footage of the robbery is a bit ropey (from helicopter) the police audio is around on youtube and that is quite something. That was in north hollywood in 1997, so two years after Heat.
@@kernelpickle they were a good team and had successfully taken several armoured trucks leading up to this one, apparently the truck was late and they decide funk it - we'll hit the bank which was probably their downfall because of the time difference. The one certainty is that a copy of HEAT was in their video player in the apartment. I don't know much about the robberies impact on policing so can't comment. I do think policing has become almost military nowadays but that could be gangs or cartels etc, but like I said I don't really know. It's to be expected I suppose that the cops need to be better armed than the crooks but how they employ those weapons is what's causing concern. Be honest cops are killing people without using guns, first George Floyd and lately that Tyrell guy both by use of force, neither by firearm. Even a long time ago there were numerous deaths caused by using choke holds which got banned in every department. It's bad actors within the cops, most are doing their job as best they can, it's just a shame the damage the bad ones do, not only to yh cops but to the communities who feel they can't trust them or are unsafe engaging with them and they're supposed to protect the public first and foremost.
Hi Stephen I would love to see what you think of some of the classics British crime films like The long good Friday and Get Carter. These videos are really interesting.
I've discovered the Heat shootout WAS based on a real shootout in Chicago in 1964, so Stephen was right all along. The real Neil Macauley and his crew had just robbed a store and were coming back out with $13,000 ($125,000 in 2023 money) when they were ambushed by the real Vincent Hanna and his officers. Two of Macauley's crew were shot dead in the street and Macauley ran off, chased on foot by Detective Chuck Adamson (Al Pacino's character) who ended up shooting Macauley six times then held the robber's hand as he died.
Spot on my friend
Damn.
The assault in North Hollywood shootout back in 1997, criminals was inspired in that film. So damnn creepy.
@@holeefok3158 Oh my, I totally remember that incident. I didn't know they were inspired by the movie though.
@@writer46m72 They weren't inspired by the movie. They'd been robbing banks long before Heat came out.
Fun fact, the North Hollywood robbers had a copy of Heat at their house meaning that the North Hollywood Shootout was actually based on Heat not the other way around.
Pretty sure they found the movie in their VCR. They watched it before they executed the heist.
It was actually based on a shootout in Chicago in the 50s.
@PriceAction-j3l it’s almost like that’s what I said.
You have a DeNiro quality yourself lol, what a magnificent movie. That scene where Kilmer thinks he's in the clear and goes into Kill Mode in a tenth of a second is astounding.
Same as when he comes home and smiles to his honey and she waves a finger and the smile vanishes from his face, and he just KNOWS, and moves on. Kilmer was absolutely terrific in this movie. As was everybody, really.
I’m live in Norway, and I remember thinking when the NOKAS-robbery went down in 2004 that it felt like something out of this movie. There was even a downtown shootout where a cop was shot. Still the biggest heist ever in Norway. Made a movie about it in 2010, could be worth checking out.
This scene inspired the mission "Three Leaf Clover" in GTA 4. It had a comedic beginning driving to the bank, but ended in a running battle. Worth downloading just for this one mission.
The beginning part was based off point break
And ive also read that the whole movie is a remake of an 80's movie "LA Takedown"...@@coled5391
Rockstar has copied heat many times. The vice city hesit and the gta 5 heist too.
Literally the only mission I can remember from that game.
@@vergil1155I think the GTA V mission "Blitz Play" is the one that is modeled after Heat
"money is rly heavy"
Payday player: you're god damn right
Tremendous film, great cast and a great ending. Pacino and De Niro play there parts so well as they always do. First class film enjoyed this review Stephen 👏
Check out the new novel, Heat 2. Absolute quality.
This was based on real characters who actually bumped into each other in a coffee house
"What's their M.O.?" "Their M.O. is that they're GOOD." LOL
Just for info... Deniro and Pacinos characters were based on two real people who in fact did sit down and have a coffee together hence that iconic scene
I remember seeing a video where someone army or marines said his instructor told him, while screening the film, if you can't change a magazine and get on point as fast as Val Kilmer, Get out of my unit! One of my favorite films of all time, infinitely rewatchable, and the soundtrack OMG. Bought it. The film too. "The Sound of God Across the Waters" by Moby. Who wouldn't let it be included in the soundtrack. Just so many terrific things about this movie all around,, and a master class in acting by DeNiro.
That shootout is one of the best ever
No. It IS the best ever...
The shootout is epic, but I think the movie 'Thief' is actually a better film. Same director, but better script. James Caan gives the performance of a lifetime.
SAS hero Andy McNab was involved in the making of the shootout scene and it is by a long way the best one ever put on film. it was so good they used the original sound recording of it as it was better than the over dub in editing .
Yea a couple of sas guys were involved
I always turn the volume right up. Like you say best shoot out ever.
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Wow 😮 I didn’t know that!! 🙋♀️🤦♀️🤷♀️🇬🇧
Andy mcnab the bullshiter of Iraq..he tells some lies in his book.. proven lies
Yeah mick gould was the other. You can tell how much range time de niro and kilmer put in, kilmers use of the car15 is top notch
My absolute fave film ever made. I sneaked in tot he cinema at 13 to watch it.
There was a scene before this that the robbers disabled the security system in the garage building of the national bank a day before they start to rob it.
Now that was pure professionalism.
I like Stephen Gillen narrating this scene. He is telling the truth because in situations like this, YOU DON'T PLAY HERO!!
De Niro's character is based on an armed robber in Chicago. In the extras on the DVD Dennis Farina talks about him, he was in Snatch and used to be a policeman in Chicago.
One of the best films ever made.
I appreciate your candor in these videos. Not many people who do talk about these kinds of crimes are able to keep from mythologizing themselves or what they've done, if they've actually done any of it at all.
Just want to thank you.
All the actors in the film were fantastic. Tom Sizemore has never gotten the recognition he deserves.
Well for me, the action is the juice.
He wasn't even mentioned at the Oscars last year in the list of actors that died. Shame..
"At this level", as Mr. Gilles puts it, sets this crew apart.
Neil is engaged in his profession.
So is his crew, although the other team members know McCauley has the brains.
To one degree or another, either of these guys could've been quite successful on the straight-and-narrow.
For whatever reason though, as Michael Cerrito puts it, "For me, it's about the 'juice '".
Interestingly, both he and the others, like the same "edge" Vincent says he's got to be on to be sharp.
They're on the same razor, just different sides.
Great review of a fabulous film..
One of my favorite movies of all time. Great cast and great performances.
3:20 "people need to realise - money is really heavy!" ... I mean, I know it was gold bars (which is altogether a different ball game) but when the Brinks Mat guys stumbled onto that fortune they only had a little van to get away in, lol. They somehow loaded up all that gold and apparently the bumper was scraping along the ground when they drove off 🤣
Wow I like your comments on this ! Will be watching some more….👍
The best action shooting scenes in any movie up to that time and IMO even since. People always celebrate the bank robbery scene, which is obscenely gripping, but I think the drive-in scene was also an absolutely heart-stopping sequence too. There were softer interpersonal moments too that were put together so well, and so incredibly economically, not at all interfering with the pace of the story, that have stayed with me so easily, and, I think, launched a couple of careers.
And loved that movie! Can’t wait to see when your movie comes out!👍🏻❤️
Great observations Stephen! Valuable comments! Good luck😇 in Your New Projects!
One of my favourite films!!! 🙏
The shootout is EPIC. Classic Michael Mann. Remember him from the Miami Vice days. Very good show too.
Ex SAS guy acted as advisor on this and collateral with tom cruise
If I'm not mistaken, the film came out years before the North Hollywood shootout took place.
So if anything, the shootout was inspired by this film.
No it was NOT. It's stupid to claim that.
@@NotMykl Thank you for the thoughtful comment. 👍
Coincidentally the armoured vehicle scene in this movie inspired french armed robber Redoine Faid, who went so far as to state that he considered Michael Mann to be his mentor of sorts.
ps: Always thought you had a touch of the Robert de Niro about you Stephen, you definitely share certain mannerisms!
That's brilliant info. And yes he is like DeNiro how he carries himself isn't he haha.
My grandfather was actually very alike to him too. You'd swear they were brother's. And my grandfather was also a very well known robber too. Strange world.
@@roymunson1 hi roy loved you in the movie kingpin
Great film love the way you telling the story mate
I work for the media covering conflict and wars, and not ONE Hollywood movie even comes close to sounding like a real shootout...except heat, They used the real audio from the set of the shootout and you can tell, the mass of noise you hear in a gunfight is insane, its like a wall of noise, but in most movies you hear individual shots or people talking, which is not the case in real life, Heat to this day is my fave, realistic crime film.
Great review mt thank u
Thank you & Brilliant Analysis Stephen of one of my favourite films of all time!
I dont know how Neil's Crew managed to enter the bank with military grade weapons hidden under their suit jackets without any staff members noticing.
This movie is an absolute classic and a masterpiece. Great to hear your thoughts on it.
I can imagine that lugging all that money might have been like lugging around phone books. Worst is your probably not grabbing anything bigger than 20s
It's understandable to think the Heat shootout is based on the North Hollywood shootout, but the North Hollywood shootout happened in 1997, Heat came out in 1995. When the real shootout happened, everyone was thinking Heat. Also, with 2,000 bullets fired on public roads, it's amazing only the two robbers died that day.
Actually it is not "understandable" to think the movie "inspired" the North Hollywood shootout.
And no, "everyone" were NOT thinking of 'Heat'.
The Q&A sections at the end are very cool.
The robbery was known as the North Hollywood shootout. I remember watching it on the news as it was happening in 1997.
Fabulous as always! ❤️
Anything to the "Coppola's" in the business?
Thanks Stephen great channel , love the stories and your presentation , Bronson one was great , stay well , best wishes from australia
thank stepheh for recommending the film HEAT have u got anymore you could recommend pls that film was amazing
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Good work Stephen, nice input 👌🏽
I like the reaction straight from the heart.
Another great video Stephen enjoyed it
steve the job u were thinking of was the hollywood shootout and if i remember correctly the shootout lasted 45 mins.
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I'll have to watch this again. The shootout scene was so loud on my surround set up. It was good in the cinema but you could really ramp it up at home. Probably De Niro's last really good acting role.
Jackie Brown? Ronin? The Irishman?
@@jnicholls21Irishman was terrible. As someone who’s loved DeNiro and Scorsese since I’ve been a kid, I walked out of the theater- that’s how bad it was. Awful.
@@Kyle-ys3cv I watched the whole Criterion edition of it. I enjoyed it to a point, but it wasn't great, of course. Just not up to a Goodfellas level. I still enjoyed it for the
ground it covered and history, etc.
@@thiscorrosion900 no- it was terrible. A blemish on Marty’s ouvre.
@@Kyle-ys3cv Well, it certainly wasn't even in the realm of his best movies, that's for sure. I thought Killers of the Flower Moon was ok, but far too long.
The 1997 Hollywood Shootout happened after Heat (1995).
I've got to say I'm loving these reviews Stephen...
If anything, the North Hollywood shootout based itself on this movie, rather than the other way around, lol. I think this movie came out in 1995 and the North Hollywood robbery was 1997. Maybe there was another earlier big shootout though that this film was based upon (America certainly isn't lacking for them) but the North Hollywood one is the famous one everyone remembers
This kind of thing is relatively rare, it is a surprise it doesn't happen more often.
There was also the 1980 Narco Shootout.
I was gonna say the same thing! Heat dropped in ‘96. The North Hollywood shootout went down in ‘97. Afterwards the cops even found a copy of Heat in a VCR owned by one of the robbers.
I seem to recall that some of the characters (Neal, at least) were based loosely on actual people.
Think i saw a docu here on youtube that said those robbers had Heat in there vhs player when the cops raided their place
Stephen you really know your stuff I salute you sir
Stephen, you look a lot like Robert DeNiro, love listening to your shows. I need to get your biography book. Where can I pick one up!👍🏻❤️
Incredible movie. Great video.
Excellent review from your point of view. A movie I would like you deep dive is Love, Honor & Obey.
This was actually based on a real Neil McCauley He operated in Chicago in the late 50's early 60's and the cop chasing him had respect for him, the Cafe scene was also real McCauley served 7 yr in Alcatraz five in the hole, and he was in McNeil prison, The scene when the crew are working on a bank while Pacino's men are in a truck and one lets his rifle hit the interior of the van was true and they walked, I don't think the crew took down really large scores like in the film. And the advisor on the films firearms training was Andy McNab from "Bravo.2.Zero." It was all on the DVD special features
Great review.
In the '97 North Hollywood shootout the cops were actually debating for 40 minutes on letting them get away just to end the onslaught.
Eventually they got to a gun dealer's store and he supplied them with AR's and plenty of ammunition.
It's interesting you mentioned that "for armed robbers, it's not about getting in, it's about getting out," because I recently watched a documentary on John Dillinger, and he said the exact same thing. One reason why Dillinger always got away before the authorities could catch up with him was because the escape was thoroughly planned much more than the insertion. "Where are the nearest police stations, which routes are they likeliest to take to reach the bank, which escape routes are optimal for OUR wheelman, where are the closest county and state lines so the police no longer have jurisdiction --" (Read More)
Dillinger's wheelmen would scout out the routes physically in their cars with a map in hand and memorize a list of directions and landmarks, similar to Rally racers and their co-drivers. That way, when the men got back in the car with loot in hand, the driver would just hit the gas and take a series of turns that would lead them out of the town or city before the police could get a bead on them.
Den of Thieves would be a good one to see you do Stephen
eddy bunker WAS the consultant for this movie. I recommend his books
Great picture..
Mate! Take a look at yourself at 13:50 when you look to your right and down. Spitting image of DeNiro! I'll require 10% finders fee of any movie deals you get as a result of this discovery;)
Really good stuff!
Robert De Niro twin watching his twin.
I also was the resemblance
Stephen it was the other way around. The North Hollywood shootout happened a few years after this film released.
and if you look in the credits it was Andy McNab of the infamous "story" Bravo Two Zero who did the choreography for the firefight, with traditional British Army fire and manoeuvre tactics.
Well done.
Hi Steven, another good review. I always say I robbed a lot of banks, but not with guns, with confidence and good intentions, I cashed the cheques and used the cards but never could paid them back. now I owe no man anything - debts paid in full. No credit no loans. I work and spend what I have and that enough my friend - have a good one
I’d like to see his viewpoint of the whole movie and how mcauley operates not just the shoot out scene.
This guy is the most ‘gangstery’ character I’ve ever seen - if I had to pick out of a lineout a guy who was most likely a gangster in the past it would be this guy….mostly, strangely enough, from his accent!!
Your best one so far really enjoyed that .. would be interesting to see you review in the name of the father .. with the fact where you were born also been cat A .. thanks in advance
I remember back in the 90s there was a famous pair of armed robbers in LA. I think they were from Russia or eastern Europe. They had head to toe body armor on and automatic weapons. The cops in LA at the time were not equipped to deal with this from their standard patrol cars. They had to call in special units that had proper rifles to take them down. I think it was after this event that they started putting rifles as somewhat standard equipment in patrol cars, often kept in the trunk. Before that it was just pistols and shotguns. If you go back to the 1970s and earlier they mostly just had .38 revolvers as standard issue.
Stephen the Beverly Hills shootout (colloquially the 44 Minute shootout) was actually based on the film!
Good point about the weight of millions of €$.I have no experience of anything like that but have wondered about the level of planning not just getting in and out but the finer details like the weight..crazy man..
This film is actually a remake of Mann's 1989 TV version called L.A. Takedown. That was nowhere near as long and drawn out as this one though. Different actors too.
Regarding the comment that the police will let robbers complete the score to make their case airtight, there was a scene dealing with that issue earlier in the film. The same crew was burglarizing a metal storage facility and the same police unit was surveilling them. They were waiting in surveillance or tactical vans while the crew was cracking the safe, and one of the cops made a noise that was out of place on a dark empty street. Robert DeNiro's character, Neil, heard it, and then ordered the crew to drop the job and walk away. The cops saw the crew coming out of the building, but the black guy warned Al Pacino's character Vincent, that they were not carrying anything. So he ordered the other officers to sit still and let the crew walk. When one of the uniformed officers objected, he made that very point that the video did, that all they could pin on the thieves was a breaking and entering charge, which would put them back on the street in mere months. He wanted to catch them with something that would get them hard prison time.
Of course, the drawback of this approach, was that the thieves were aware they had been made and were able to turn the tables on the police and lose their surveillance. If not for rival criminals who had crossed the gang and feared their retaliation, protecting themselves by tipping off the police, the gang would have succeeded in ripping off the bank as well. Basically, that strategy failed, and caused a lot of destruction and loss of life that might have been prevented had Vincent been satisfied with charging four men with breaking and entering and calling it a night.
Regarding taking the shot on Tom Sizemore, I think the portrayal of Vincent is that he wants to win no matter what, and he's going to take risks and endanger lives because he thinks its the best way to save lives.
its based on the north hollywood shootout/bank robbery and it did last for a long time, they had full body armour head to toe and they had light machine guns with 200-250 round box magazines plus multiple extra box magazines. the robbers where armed and armoured better then the actual police and sheriff departments at the time. it was nation wide headline news here in the US at the time.
Yes if I am not mistaken the cops actually had to go to a local gun shop and get the weapons they needed as this was happening in real time because they were out gunned.
@@xlxl9440 ya something like tht cause at the time law enforcement only carried pistols and shotguns.
@@danielcampbell9457 I reall loved how Michael Mann depicted the Stagard Column formation for the forward suppression fire to escape. Very skillfully done and from what I understand about military tactics very realistic.
@@xlxl9440 yup back when most movies were actually good.
It isn't based on the Hollywood shootout ... unless someonee invented time travel.
The Hollywood shootout was in 1997, HEAT was released in 1995.
They didn't have light machine guns with 200-250 rd box magazines.
They had AK pattern rifles illegally converted to fire in fun mode, with some drum magazines as well as regular mags.
You are correct in that the robbers were heavily armed and had aquired, or constructed, (I heard that they had constructed the body armour, but I may be mis-remembering that information), body armour.
The police that responded were armed typically at the time with revolvers, self loading pistols and shotguns, which while effective if they hit an unarmoured part of the robbers, were all but useless against the armoured bits
There is a story attached to this shootout that the police sent someone to local gun store/s to 'borrow' some AR-15 rifles in order to get the extra punch required to defeat the body armour worn by the robbers, but I can't recall if that story has ever been confirmed as true ... there is also a photo floating around out there of an LAPD SWAT officer in a t-shirt, shorts, vest and weapon who was supposedly responsible for killing one of the robbers.
It wasn't just headline news in the US, I was 20 at the time and living in New Zealand on the other side of the world, and the shootout was being broadcast almost live on CNN (that we could get) as well as our own local TV stations.
You have a great taste in movies. I love your high standard vocabulary. You should review Layer Cake.
I cant imagine the addeline pumping robbing a bank 🏧
U were talking about the north Hollywood shootout. I watched that live. Was kinda like this
Stephen Gillen Have you reviewed THIEF yet with James Caan (early Michael Mann)? Has become one of my favorite crime drama films of all time over the years. I missed it
in 1981 when it first came out, somehow. Was young then and didn't realize how much of it was based on real life/real guys including the guy that wrote the book The Home Invaders.
Caan in that movie is more of a sheer technician, of course. The job has to be inside, and up to a certain level or he won't even consider it.
Nice video👏👏👏
The incident Stephen refers to lasted 72 mins which is the name of the film that tells the story, strangely after cops killed both robbers when searching their flat they found the video of Heat in the player! Proof positive this isn't based on it but hey I'm a Michael Mann fanatic, also original film was called LA Takedown again by Michael Mann. Please review either movie Mr Gillen, please!!
There was a made for TV movie based on the North Hollywood Shootout that aired on FX in June of 2003, and it was actually named 44 Minutes: The North Hollywood Shootout. The most notable impact of that film was that it funded a number of Michael Madsen’s mortgage payments, and later inspired a song by Megadeth that was also named “44 Minutes.”
The actual incident was historically significant for a number of reasons. One of those being the length of time the actual shootout lasted before the suspects were finally taken down by the police. Obviously the reason it lasted so long was because it was the first police shootout where the suspects were both equipped with tactical rigs and Type IIIA body armor reinforced with ballistic plates to protect vital organs, as well as homemade armor for their limbs-which was far more substantial than what the police had at that time.
It wasn’t the first time that suspects had used high powered rifles against police, because there had been multiple shootouts in the 70’s and 80’s preceding the incident, but these guys were the first to use semi-automatic rifles that were illegally converted to fully automatic, and loaded with 100-round drum magazines.
For perspective, when you hear the media use words like “high capacity magazine” in their description of a firearm, depending on the jurisdiction, that could mean anything that holds more than 10-rounds. The most commonly available sizes being in the range of 15 to 30-rounds-which means that they could fire 3-10x the number of rounds before they needed to reload.
Most importantly, that was also an inflection point in modern policing policies, government spending, and tactics, because when police realized they were outgunned and unable to penetrate their armor, they raided a local gun shop in order to get their hands on similar rifles that could actually take them down.
From that point on, police departments have been militarized from coast to coast to prevent that from ever happening again.
The events that actually inspired the film Heat took place between 1961 and 1964, and they were far less action-packed than what made it into the film-so most of the screenplay was either purely fictional or an amalgamation of a variety of different sources. The mostly true-to-life aspects of the story that actually made it into the film were the name of Robert De Niro’s character, Neil McCauley, the scene where he met with the detective for coffee which was based on an actual conversation they had, and the basic outline of the plot being about a crew of guys led by McCauley that successfully committed a number of armed robberies/heists until they were tracked down by a detective who kept tabs on them until he was finally able to spring a trap that ended in a shootout where most of them died in a hail of gunfire, except for one guy (that Val Kilmer’s character was very loosely based on) who survived the initial ambush by shooting his way out, but that only lasted a couple of days before he was arrested.
Anyways, my point is that Heat was an amazing film based on a fairly mediocre heist with a quirky story, that ultimately ended up inspiring the craziest heist in American history, which forever changed the fundamental nature of policing, and it turned even the smallest rural departments into the militarized police forces we know today.
So, just remember that whenever you see over policing, where cops are brutalizing and/or executing unarmed civilians in the streets-you can indirectly thank Michael Mann, Al Pacino, Robert De Niro and Val Kilmer for being the catalyst behind all of that unchecked authoritarian violence.
Yeah although the video footage of the robbery is a bit ropey (from helicopter) the police audio is around on youtube and that is quite something. That was in north hollywood in 1997, so two years after Heat.
@@kernelpickle they were a good team and had successfully taken several armoured trucks leading up to this one, apparently the truck was late and they decide funk it - we'll hit the bank which was probably their downfall because of the time difference. The one certainty is that a copy of HEAT was in their video player in the apartment.
I don't know much about the robberies impact on policing so can't comment. I do think policing has become almost military nowadays but that could be gangs or cartels etc, but like I said I don't really know. It's to be expected I suppose that the cops need to be better armed than the crooks but how they employ those weapons is what's causing concern. Be honest cops are killing people without using guns, first George Floyd and lately that Tyrell guy both by use of force, neither by firearm. Even a long time ago there were numerous deaths caused by using choke holds which got banned in every department. It's bad actors within the cops, most are doing their job as best they can, it's just a shame the damage the bad ones do, not only to yh cops but to the communities who feel they can't trust them or are unsafe engaging with them and they're supposed to protect the public first and foremost.
I could Honestly imagine Stephen in this Film, with Freddie Foreman and Vic Dark, :) could call it The Earner lol. Would be epic.
Face, which is proper underrated imo, and The Business please.
This dude LOOKS like DeNiro
He's literally a double of 1990s DeNiro
Smoking review soldier!
British Robert De Niro reacts to American Robert De Niro
Just Anotha Chicago out fit "HIT" story tellin' by Hollywood 🎯
Excellent
Stephen looks a lot like Robert De Niro
Hi Stephen I would love to see what you think of some of the classics British crime films like The long good Friday and Get Carter. These videos are really interesting.
I’d love to hear you talk about The Town, if you’ve not already
Subbed. (Were you in the army btw,?) FYE check French film called the crew./ braquerres, like modern French heat..solid!
Hi Stephen. I was reading about the old guys that did the Hatten Garden Robbery a few years ago. I reckon they could have got away with that.
The Bev Hills robbery happened after this film came out
An ex SAS soldier coordinated the shoot out scene