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Charles Bronson's Ex-Cellmate Reacts to Tom Hardy in Bronson
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- Опубліковано 3 сер 2024
- Charles Bronson's Ex-Cellmate Reacts to Tom Hardy in Bronson.
Episode 2 of a brand new series where I get personal and dive deep into some of the world's most iconic movies! In this episode, I react to the iconic film Bronson starring Tom Hardy. As someone who was friends with Charlie Bronson who is known as the most dangerous prisoner in Britain, I found this very easy to come to the conclusion on whether the film was authentic or not!
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Timestamps
00:00 Teaser
00:22 Intro
01:28 Film Reaction
08:58 Question Time
11:42 Charles Bronson on Tom Hardy
13:04 Tom Hardy on Charles Bronson
14:49 Stephen's Story on Bronson
16:10 Is Charles Bronson a Victim
16:57 Stephen's Film Rating
17:32 Outro
Big respect to everyone here and all your comments. They're all well noted. Link for the book below guys, would love yous to read it and let me know what you think.
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I think it's criminal hes still locked up.
@@snoox27 I agree it's criminal pardon the pun, and ppl would probably still turnaround and say oh that murderer, and he's not killed anyone, more luck than judgement like. Ha ha 👀😁, there's a few wronguns who were close I think. GWAN CHARLIE, I hope he gets a few years in the countryside, I think he at least deserves that after the inhumane way he's been treated. 💙👀.
Thanks very much for the insight, I'm sorry I ain't heard of you before and I have read countless books, but you sound very well educated, pls could I ask and pls don't get offended, but what was your crime and I thought Charlie hasn't been able to be padded up with anyone for yrs, especially after all the hostage taking, and living in a cell within a cell for yrs, Thank you Stephen. 👍👀🥊.
@stephen.gillen Are you a Robert De Niro fan? You have his mannerisms, imo.
How Tom Hardy didn't win every acting award in the world for this is a mystery.
the movie was meh. Hardy did a good job.
I agree, it's purely down to who he played 🤔
@@emremokoko you're opinion is MEH
How he didn't win a major award in general is beyond me.
That's when it is clearly down to who they play, serious criminal? You aren't winning too many awards, suffragette? World leader? They will throw awards your way... It should be about raw acting 👏
When he was listening to Hardy recounting Bronson’s story about cutting a piece of himself off to move on, you can see the recognition and respect for Hardy’s acting skills on his face. He was hearing Bronson’s voice through Hardy.
Tom Hardy is incredible. Such an amazing actor.
I love how much empathy this bloke has for Charlie's conditions being so futile and a pressure keg, on top of whatever issues which landed you there, can't imagine anyone would cope everyday of eternal hell and not go crazy.
"you keep kicking a dog, don't be surprised one day if it bites you" powerful line Stephen. I was in the penal system only for a sort time, 16 months, in a northern Irish prison, but in the block I've heard some squeals from people getting bones broke and arm ligaments torn from the guards themselves. It's nothing compared to what Charles has done at all but I've seen enough for a lifetime in places like that, not oldschool like you went through but definitely some pretty bad stuff from drugs and suicide. All I have to say is I hope Charles gets to see a bit of light before his day is up and I appreciate your lack of ego and genuine care for the man in this interview, absolutely stellar, Love from N.I
Alright nero mate from Belfast hear wat clink did ya go till if ya don't mind me asking
@@Abra_cadabra1 Maghaberry for 4 months and the rest in Magilligan lad.
@@NeroZenith nice 1 fella
Mate I started off in the early 60’s in kids homes and remand centre for boys , from there to Borstal & YP’s and then later on many notorious prisons including Grendon, strange ways scrubs Wandsworth ,peter head ,many others one day I I’ll write the book I have always wanted to write!!
I heard northern irish prisons were a walk jn the park. Can i ask js it better to be protestant or catholic in a northern irish prison? Thanks
You can tell this guy is the genuine article. He wouldn't throw or allow an ounce of shade towards Charlie and gave him a proper send up. Top bloke.
This guy does a great job of critiquing the film and painting a picture of what prison and Charlie are like.
Tom Hardy is the most dynamic and serious artist in film over his career. A real shapeshifter that abandons self to become the character. Great interview- Thanks Mates!
I think you're spot on about the good points and the bad points of the film. I hope Charlie gets released so he can have a chance, just a chance, of living a bit of life. He never killed no one, the prison service went to work on him and never let up.
I hope Charlie gets to be your next door neighbour.
That'll be OK, right? Right?
@@raypurchase801 Ray bloody Purchase!
@@dexocube Is that you, Clem?
Wait, do you guys know each other?
Well said.
I love how naturally camera ready these old crime dudes are
they all are story tellers. gangsters love stories lol
Also to be fair you live a life of danger a camera probably doesn't seem very scary.
@@rogerdalzell They also often like to construct their own narratives lmao
That’s just any average human though
Yeah, it's almost like they're paid actors....I work in this industry, don't believe half the shit from these channels, most of it is fake with actors
The difference with Mr Gillen is that I haven't come across a single instance in any of his vids or interviews where he could be accused of boasting about or even coming as remotely proud of his criminal past. Don't get me wrong, I'm sure he is proud of how he handled certain situations and I'm sure he has many happy memories from those times as well but he is totally building his rep around his repentance and doesn't encourage any of the usual hero worship or fear these guys seem to crave.
Big thumbs up for Stephen Gillen
He's just telling the story how it is no glory. Gotta respect it 17 years in four walls will change a man's perspective on life
COs used to get mad at me in MDOC bcuz I told them and showed them it would not change me! lmao
Any person that spends that amount of time in prison will find good times. That's not their fault, they are forced to continue life in a situation they can't escape. To expect any person to just dwell in the worst for all their time in, is not only cruel, but inhumane.
I'm saying this in context, not as n response. No one here implied anything other.
Well, you see, unlike many, he don't need too, he knows where he was in the game as do others who are of a same ilk and he knows how he done his bird. Ego tends to leave when you've been thru and done it all, along with the mind and values changing there's no need . It would be a let down to himself and loved ones imo
Him talking about Tom Hardy was really heartwarming 😅
As a whole Bronson really told the story of how Charlie was molded into a unremorseful convict. The penal system really did a number on him, and was rightfully every bit as guilty if not more than Charlie ever was. I also like the way they went into depth about Charlie (formally known as Michael Peterson) having to deal with social and societal dilemmas as well. It really incorporated his inner struggles not only as a convict but as a man as well. All and all Mr. Gillen did an excellent job critiquing the film behind Charlie Bronson's earlie life.
He was a dangerous psychopath who didn't care who got hurt, he showed he was never going to reform his behaviour and now he's so old and mad if he was let out he might just grab a shotgun and start shooting people for the fun of it. Let him rot, he's scum.
Penal😄😁😁
"We'll have a Guinness later"
I died 😂
Really!!
Im glad that he seems pleased with Hardy's perfomance and gives us a look into how he truly was when they were cell mates
dude does a legit film critique and is very intelligent and emotionally intelligent. It was really refreshing and I am impressed.
Bronsons cell mate? I bet I know who had the remote controller for the tv!
There was no remote coz Charlie always ate it....only way they turned it over was a full on volly too the side off the the telly..3,4 vollys...and if a channel skipped one too many Steve vollied the other side the telly....was a Russian telly I heard.... apparently still works now...
Yeah no TVs in that cell block.haha
Cell mate to a cat A prisoner? I smell bullshit.
Not Bronson because he a little girl
Remote control bought from a can of tuna
I was very lucky to have a part in this film, to say it was the best experience of my life.
U were so lucky what part did u play??
One of the best British accents ever. What a cool dude. BTW, I think Tom Hardy is one of the best actors we have today, he did his job very well, too bad the writers were more intrested in shocking the public than telling a true story.
He’s actually British if I’m not mistaken
Absolutely love this movie! Tom Hardy did an amazing job. It’s really interesting to get this backstory and I appreciate Stephen’s candor. Great, great video! ❤
Stephen surprised the hell out of me. I judged a book by its cover (past history) and made an ass of my self. Stephen is incredibly articulate and thoughtful. I love that I found his channel and will definitely enjoy his content and films.
I really respect you for what you said about them demonizing him. "The press has demonized him and so has the prison service but he's a human being just like anyone else". I think that's really important for people to understand that he's a prisoner, a violent one, but he's a human being who went through a lot and never got the help he needed. Some people can rise above and others it consumes without proper help and unfortunately he's one that was consumed and the prison system has made him even worse. Rather than judge him, we should figure out how to help people so that they don't end up in the same position as him. Respect to you Stephen.
I like him and I've been to jail myself but he's demonized them by taking them hostage, he brought it all in himself.
Real talk!!!
U guys are too nice to him he has victims and would victimize u if he could
@@darrenhenderson6921 Humans take hostages. Demons are evil creatures that were never human and seem to not actually exist... Demonizing means we are not actually doing any analysis, no looking into how things could have been different, what improvements could be made so it does not keep happening to more humans... It is just smart to not demonize people since that closes you off from a realistic assessment...
well he may have been violent but was doing more hard time than m urderers who have taken multiple lives
I love this accent, I struggle to hear that at all in London these days. And no I don’t mean foreign people at all, nothing racist about that comment, I mean the accent isn’t the same anymore among Londoners anymore.
Your right it was unique because it came from London with no outside influences unlike today's accent you hear there. That accent is still quite strong in Essex though.
Let's not beat around the bush here get to the point y are people's scared to tell the truth just come visit London urself use Ur own eyes and ears there's not many of us EastEnders left London literally has had the flood gates opened on it nd it is going under
@@richwilliams4750 Let them beat around the bush. They will be spat out and told, "I never knew you".
As long as they weren't that dreaded R word that was created by the synagogue of satan, then it's ok
You hear the London accent all the time 🤷🏻♂️
My mate from Bethnal Green has a dead ringer accent, a straight up and down bloke who breaks out laughing at himself when he tries to tell you a lie.
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Awwww bless Charlie, he's a lovely bloke with a massive Hart, it's discusting that THAY havent let the fella out, he's not a danger to anyone, THAY should let Charlie out after nearly 50 years locked away the fella has done way more time than he should have, FREE THE MAN,
HE DOESN'T DESERVE THIS TREATMENT AT ALL, ITS ABUSE BY THE GOVERNMENT!!!! AND ITS DISCUSTING WHAT THERE DOING KEEPING HIM LOCKED AWAY FROM SOCIATY, LET HIM OUT FREE CHARLIE BRONSON HE DOES NOT DESERVE THIS TREARMENR, PLEASE SEND MY LOVE AND BEST WISHES TO TO CHARLIE, AND TELL HIM WE ARE ALL BEHIND HIM, BIG HUGS TO CHARLIE, FROM DANIELLE HELLAM, FROM WAKEFIELD WEST YORKSHIRE, MUCH LOVE. CHARLIE SHOULD BE FREE....... FREE CHARLIE BRONSON,
DONT TOUCH MY ARSE!
Ppl
Who is the gay guy who comes singing about tea?
This is a beautifully articulated and humane analysis and explanation. It does a lot for a normy like me to be educated and less judgemental about inmates in general. Thank you sir.
This guy is great. Very well spoken and no big ego.
I’ve got PTSD and instead of treating me I was given drugs that changed my physiology, slowed me down and I call them a chemical straight jacket. I dread to think what they dosed Mr Bronson with against his will and how that would have affected him even more.
What the system has done to him is unforgivable.
Agreed real men as touted their masculinity may be are punished and held down to save and protect this unjust system we have. I the past the emphasizes was on physical violence against inmates today you get chemically castrated. It's a hideous evil. The newest trick is to make ppl especially woman addicted to social media Fry their brain with superstimuli like 7 figures, 7 inches and at least 6'3 tall - in that way upper-class pr*cks bind 80% of all woman no matter the class. Taking away massively options for young low class men to develop their masculinity and strive for smth. It's all this social ingeneering crap of the Transhumanists. This upper-class families marry since centuries inside their group when famine, war and poverty f up the epigenetic of the ordinary working or farming men, this guy got always optimal nurturing. So they grow 3 to 4 inches taller as the other classes their faces more fair cause of good diet and they don't carry around psychology of scarcity. On the other side they don't develop the compassionate fighting heart cause they hadn't the necessity to do. But today's fried young woman's brain just perceive blink and shine of Instagram. And if you don't have it you don't make it. The gap is bigger as ever and therefore any low class young men look for answers to this unbearable situation. Crime was always one of the answers of the exploited and under privileged to get his needs met.
I hope you are good!
Charlie caught Hepatitis from a dirty needle, how terrible is that. 👀🤐.
May you overcome and defeat the pain of PTSD. God bless.
bronson gave tom profound advice that is really accurate and true. Pain can flood over you..rejection can drive u mad. 'cutting off' is really how it felt when i was finally able to move on.
Quite simply Stephen this was absolutely brilliant..I loved this review immensely ❤️
I agree it need a more fleshing out of Bronson's story, but Tom did an excellent job in his portrayal of the Charley. The quirks, the mannerisms, the anger and tension that would just emulate trough the screen. This is really apparent in one scene. I won't spoil it, but, man when they say "less is more", Hardy nails it in this scene. The tension and the anger is just simmering under the surface, but he puts on a brave face and does what Charley does, something impulsive.
More backstory would have been better, but the psychedelic style really brought me back to the 70's and I was only 6 in '74, so I think that helps me related to the time, because memories like that are in a dream state. Kind of what Charley was walking through.
One of the greatest crimes of this country is leaving a man like Bronson to rot in prison with no legitimate reason. It’s incredibly sad what has happened to him and it’ll be a stain on this country for years to come.
No legitimate reason? So beating people up left right & centre, taking hostages, all the nutty stuff he's done isn't legitimate reason for punishment?? Sorry but it's plenty legit.
It's still a shame though, he's never going to be allowed to progress, how can he rehabilitate sat in a cell talking to himself? He can't can he, & it's a waste, I say send him back on the wing at an A cat for a few months, then give him c cat, test him for 6 months, then Tey a year at d cat, then you can give him a chance of a life. If not, give him a gun & a bullet, let his misery end.
Yup, no need at all. The post office he originally robbed is just down the road from my grandma. I believe it is still there!
Bronson should be released IMMEDIATELY and become your next door neighbour.
One day he'll accuse you of watching him from your window, or parking your car too close to his house or not using the rubbish and recycling bins properly. What happens next?
And THAT (very sadly) is why Bronson needs to remain inside.
@@raypurchase801 that's what people don't want to hear, he's a violent man and got more time for being really violent, should they just laugh that off? people say whatever but like you say if he moved in across the street they would be singing a different tune. it is what it is
Everyone will be judged at the end for everything and those in authority meaning the judicial/court system, prison guards, warden, etc will be judged as well.
Thank you for sharing this. I live in Alaska and am watching this on a boat carrying cargo. It's amazing how far technology has come. I'm glad to hear Hardy captured some of his essence; makes it all the better. Glad you're doing so well in your life and look forward to watching more videos on your channel as a new subscriber. All the best.
Woahhhh that's awesome dude
Right on Shane, thank you for your lovely comment. Stay safe in those cold waters brother
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This is a highly articulate account from someone who's walked the walk. Great insight. 👍
His art is really impressive, at first i thought it kind of meh but the more he does the more i think he is a secret genius. There is so much going on in every painting he does it's like a feast for the eyes.
For me the movie was a gateway. Without it I would know nothing of this fascinating man. After seeing it I went down a rabbit hole on him and even bought Solitary Fitness. Hopefully they let him breathe some free air before he dies.
My analysis: I'm an ex-prisoner who did segregation in a "normal prison!", got out n went to University to study (Psychology, Sociology, Criminal Justice, and then Applied Creativity Theory for 10 years.) I became a Criminal Justice worker in prisons with young offenders inside the system working with Police, Probation, Home Office. Charlie is the demonised portrait prisoner for The System, he's a highly intelligent and gifted creative human being, it's his Creativity n mind along with self image of refusing to be broken that inevitable "forced" him into his anti system actions as his only means of actually maintaining his sanity; as all prisoners n POWs do to prevent total psychological breakdown..... resistance in any form is the only weapon that keeps any semblance of humanity alive in a persons mind or being. But, it's also his high level of creativity that makes it even harder for Charlie as the creative side heightens your self awareness, the whys n wherefores of yr own life origins, actions, thoughts, and social process into the system, then yr position in it. Ignorant, uneducated, unaware prisoners don't have Charlie's level of insight into himself or the system, so the emotional n Psychological pain of imprisonment for them is little in comparison to the physical, emotional, and psychological horrors and torture his has faced n survived. His continued incarceration for 'robbery" after 30 years (usually a 3-7-10 years max) is unheard of, and beyond punishment...it's simply the ongoing torture of a human being, who ceased to be a real Societal threat decades ago, and one of the many most disgraceful n disturbing cases of our Justice system. Charlie is not a threat to the outside World, merely seen as a threat to the Justice system both inside and outside if he is ever released, which he won't be. I tried my bit working with young offenders after my time, and I can tell u the system is not fair, it's riddled with corruption and many high profile decisions like Charlie are purely Political and not based upon the actual legal tenets of Justice. No Home Secretary or PM wants to known as the ones who let him out, even though it would be the compassionate and progressive thing, and humane decision for our Justice system to do. From the conversations I had with Home Office personnel during my time as a known ex-prisoner turned Justic Worker, is that they will never let Charlie out simply because of his fame now, not because he is any real threat in comparison to others who are released! ....except to the system itself via inevitable TV n media interviews etc. The Home Office simply wants Charlie to die in prison to draw a line under his entire incarceration and move on; At best Charlie may get compassion leave when he is known to be dying n totally physically incapacitated, maybe a few days before his death to see family; but even that is unlikely. In total, Charlie has already served the average time of 3 Life Sentence Prisoners, the average time served for a murderer before parole being about 10-12 years!! The UK claims not to condone torture.🙏
My brother in-law, sadly passed now, spent a while as Charlie's neighbour when they were both guests at an establishment owned by the Queen. He had some funny stories to tell, spoke well of Charlie said he was really funny and is mentioned in Charlie's book
Brilliant review! I love how you don’t just give your perspective of events or look at the factuality of things, but you critique the storytelling how the art of the cinema. Bravo!
This Bronson movie was what made me fall in love with Tom Hardy as an actor.
All Charlie needed was some love, affection and a friend to be there for him or a family that really tried to be a family for him. Society let him down and left him to go mad.
that is so true
Ha you try to love a self centered criminal I’m good here I bet if you met him before he went to prison he’s the type to cut your face you obviously never spent time with true criminals like people who don’t care and don’t want to you ever spent time in a room with someone who gives you the vibe you get when you’re walking alone in the dark and you’re neck hair goes up thank god my cousin knew him cause he you can tell and their always kind and chill but wierd in like you can feel you don’t wanna be alone with him like if you ever got the feelings not to go down that way I get gut feelings about people most times they are right you can’t save everyone some enjoy what they do but if they put it out front less victims comes like if they see I recognize my faults they’ll assume I’ll try to change but I am lazy and disheartened
I genuinely didn’t realise Charles Bronson was STILL alive. For some reason, I had just assumed he had been dead for a while.
You did such a wonderful job telling the tale. It's something to hear it through the words of someone who knows him so well. Very good video sir, sheers!
Finally!!! A real one who is articulate, credible, and not big manning it or glorifying the life. Subscribed. What a refreshing change this guy is to the usual bell ends we normally get for this kind of thing.
What's more natural than a prisoner taking prisoners when he gets the chance?
Stephen reminds me of the late great Tommy Cooper! (The way he looks anyways!)
This is the first time I've come across him and I really like how honest, grounded and authentic he is. A proper oldskool decent geezer!
Charlie is ALL of us, a prisoner if uncontrolled
You just confirmed everything I suspected about Charlie, my heart has gone out to him over the years bless him, I so hope he gets out soon and enjoys whatever he's got left..👍❤
I'd love you to do one on Robert Mawdesley the "scouse cannibal" 😳 🙄 talk about set up..😳 I grew up with a lad who's dad was a paedophile, he was a middle child of 9, when the father worked his way down the line to him, aged 10, he stood up to him and blew him up at school 👍 he told me he was saving his little sisters bless him, he was an angry youth, always fighting with lads that reminded him of his dad, unfortunately they where big bstrds and macca was only small 🙄 so he always came off worse, 18 he's banged up for abh outside a club, he got something stupid like 4 or 6 months but his biggest mistake was telling some guards "don't point any nonces out to me" 😞
I enjoyed listening to this intelligent, wise man. I feel nothing but sorry for Charlie and shame for the system that has failed him. I hope he gets out soon.
First film I saw Tom Hardy star in, and I immediately thought "this guy is the British Marlon Brando".
Good to hear how authentically he plays Charlie on the screen, even if the storyline could have been a bit of a deeper dive into him as a character.
(Btw, Charlie should be out, absolutely criminal that man is still locked down).
This was brill mate thanks so much! 🤩👍💖
I had to watch the film a few times to fully understand what was taking place around and to him.
I'm glad he had people around him who treated him with respect. Hard time make hard people and someday we will need and want people like Charley around to get us through the hard days ahead
The hospital scenes in the film were when he was at Rampton (Nottinghamshire)… Tom Hardy was brilliant in this
Watched ya channel from time to time, and from ya past to the present I say you are a absolute inspiration and I congratulate you sir !!! Long life and happiness is my wish for you 🙏
I can watch the film Bronson over and over and not get bored with it. I wonder how Charlie feels about being released if he was ever given the chance. I can't even imagine the psychological damage being incarcerated pretty much his whole life would have caused him. Does he ever talk about being released, or doesn't he allow himself that thought? I only know what I've seen on TV about Charlie Bronson, but people who have done much worse have been released when they probably didn't deserve it. If it was something he wanted, surely he should be given the chance to spend his golden years as a free man.
Just like Tom playing both Kray twins, he has to interpret what is written in the script and will not necessarily represent every aspect of the individual he is playing. It is a film. Eric Bana portrayed Mark Chopper Reid perfectly because he actually spent time with Chopper before playing the role and learnt specific traits about his personality.
so did Tom Hardy
@@bradbennett9970 I have not seen the film or really know much about Bronson, but apparently he enjoyed Hardy's portrayal.
"Neville!, I heard you wanna give me a bit of money"
@@Viney209 🤣
"There's no cash here Chopper, cash none".
You’ve been rude chop, very very rude.
Interesting to hear some one's personal experience. Iv admired charlie for many years. Thank you for your time. And big up charlie
The real deal.. thanks for the interview..
Just subscribed, spent a few years in jail myself all petty crime when i was in my youth 25 years ago your stories make mine look silly 😂 love watching your videos keep up the great work big thumbs up.
Poor bloke is living proof that people that fly into a rage usually crash land and the system will always win .braking the law is fine millions do it every day just don't get caught
Absolutely loved this video breakdown Stephen. New to your chanel but love your straight up decent and honest assessment of the film and Charlie himself. RESPECT. Glad they chose Tom Hardy for the film. Another genuine geezer and you can see Charlie respected him.
I really enjoyed your commentary in this, really thought out and articulate
When he says Charlie the way he does, you know he's telling the truth.
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You said something early in this video that struck home. "But he's a human being like anyone else" and how people react to their surroundings and how people treat them... I'm recently retired from working maximum locked psych units. The best advice I had in my early career in 1980 when I started was "treat them like a human being like anyone else". This served me well in my 37 years with violent psych patients. The mutual respect goes a long long way to having a working relationship in any institution...
There's obviously a line in terms of they are in prison, so perhaps no weapons or tools for escape. But yeah, I used to know some pretty screwed up people, it was a genuine shock when I started to work security and the folks I was securing the building against weren't half as bad. Having nearly been murdered on multiple occasions, I still believe that in general it's best to show people at least basic human respect, even if you refuse to have anything to do with them in private.
I've certainly found trust and respect, but verify to be the right call in nearly all cases.
I loved Bronson and it's cool to know that it rates pretty high in the eyes of a man who lived it alongside him. Never been a huge fan of biopics just because of the lack of authenticity. It's great to hear that a lot of the movie is accurate but obviously not perfect.
i think the main message of the bronson movie is fear versus respect. if you respect some dudes, they dont mess with you, however if you disrespect they will settle for fear.
Loved this, very interesting piece and some great questions great interview and respectable
i can listen to this accent all day
You nailed it Stephen Tom did an incredible job portraying Charles but the movie itself lacked, they should have spent more time showing how Charles became the man he is and there was way to much weirdo psychedelic stuff going on.
Well, we can all tell Charlie is a weird psychological guy... wouldn't say the oddness of the movie didn't fit. He is a unique soul, clearly. Sure he felt some strange feelings in the way he was treated.
"way to much weirdo psychedelic stuff going on."
I mean, it is a Refn film.
The film and other media industries don't survive at getting to root causes when putting forth the salient trauma drama pieces brings more viewers (customers?).
@@tomguglielmo9805 psychedelic not psychological
@@michaeldobbs4249 so he was high all the time on psychedelics?
I think people by default have the notion that movies need to portray someone as accurately as possible, and that is what the movie is for. Especially if they knew the person. I heard that with every movie that people that knew the person would say, they didn't entirely get that person right. Jim Morrison. Andy Kaufman, and many others. This guy even said, because they didn't, they let the audience down. But the audience came to see an exciting movie. Documentaries are made to try and give people an idea of who someone was. Movies are to tell a story, in an interesting way, not just try to do an exact cover of who someone was.
Great review, great questions being asked. Will definitely be watching more. Cheers
He's a legend 💯 much respect and👍🏻 From Christchurch New Zealand 💯🇳🇿
I find it admirable that you have such attention to detail in reviewing this film. i think you really care about Charlie and i think it makes you a very good friend and a good person
We are the public should be pushing for charlie, Stephen if you can change he has to have a chance
Brilliant interview 👏
This was fascinating. Thank you for this and your insights. Glad you've made it out and are doing well and I wish the same for him before his time comes because this is over the top unfair to keep a man locked up for his entire life basically. He deserves better. Even in America we've heard of Charlie Bronson 💪
I enjoyed that Stephen. Hope you’re well 💯
I’ll say this,
Tom Hardy is actually a master “character actor”.
By that I don’t mean “type cast actor” which most folks think of when you say character actor.
Hardy,
unlike so many “movie stars” who are just kinda themselves walking through different roles, (Keanu and Bruce Willis come to mind) has shown that other than being able to recognize his face, becomes a character.
IMO, that ability is increasingly rare and always interesting to watch.
(Also, that he seems to like dog’s better than most people speaks well of his common sense and intelligence.😁)
Agreed. John Wayne was always John Wayne in every movie. Same with Clint, Sean Connery and even Michael Caine. But Tom Hardy is always somebody different.
EDIT - Same with Gary Oldman. Played Mason Verger in "Hannibal", Lee Harvey Oswald in "JFK", Winston Churchill and then a weird criminal in "The Fifth Element".
He's a Daniel Day Lewis in the making.
@@KvltKrist I don’t think that’s an over statement at all. He really is going after a seat Lewis and Oldmans table.
@@raypurchase801 Oldman was pretty good as a corrupt DEA agent and Dracula as well.
@@DaPeasant I hugely respect Clint Eastwood, but imagine if, back in the day, Clint or Sean Connery or even Michael Caine had been cast as a corrupt DEA agent or Dracula.
You'd just have Clint or Sean or Michael wearing different outfits.
But Tom Hardy and Gary Oldman adopt completely different characters. REAL acting.
This was fantastic! Thanks Mate
Thanks ..Great interview/content ..Good watch
Love Charlie ❤️ that man needed help from the beginning not punishment ♥️
i loved charles bronson in Death Wish 1-2 and 3.
He had a cool mustache
Film and actor should have been Oscar nommed. Film of the year.
I was in hospital as a kid many moons ago in 1991. My family would push me around Dryburn in this old Parker Knowles armchair. My aunt was pushing me one day and we went passed some policemen escorting a man on a gurney. I was an 11-year-old airhead who would smile and converse with a lamppost. So, when I saw this fellow being escorted by policemen in Dryburn hospital, I had to wave and smile. The man said "You'll do for me, pet!" My aunt wasn't too happy with me that day! Apparently, adults can feel awkward if their kid strikes up a shiny conversation with Charles Bronson. My mother used my full name for that one while my grandma just called me a "Bloody idiot!"
Chapter 3 of the things that never happened
Spent a year in Stafford seg unit when i was young and you meet some characters in neighbouring cells , we would talk where the heating pipe enters the neighbours cell to keep sane. At shower time the screws would come with riot gear and shields and youre treated less than human. The worse thing was in the hight of very hot summer when two lads held a month long dirty protest God it stunk like hell down in that seg basement.
I wonder what Charlie would have been like if he'd been to prison in Scandanavia instead, in one of those facilities with the philosophy that each prisoner needs to be somebody's neighbour when they get out. Imagine, going to prison and being treated like a human being. Hopefully one day we'll figure out that punishment doesn't work. You can't break a will, especially not one like Charlie's.
I mean what do you do with Murderers, rapist and thieves? People get all up in arms when execution is suggested but its either that or we keep them locked up. Maybe this is a hot take but if youre in prison for something heinous you dont deserve to be treated like a human because youre not if you're in prison for murder or rape you're a monster and your life should be considered forfeit.
@@erikcarrillo7378 are you really suggesting THIEVES be executed? Fuck sakes. I agree that execution is necessary when you're WITHOUT DOUBT executing the guilty, but others that simply refuse to be decent in civil society can at least be put to work to some degree. Honestly I think things would be MUCH different if the punishment fit the crime, sentence a rapist to being brutally raped, obviously execution for heinous murder, shit like that MIGHT put some shit into perspective for an offender.
@@erikcarrillo7378 The point is to fix people and make them function as a productive citizen... isolation is punishment, take away the freedom of choices and potentially future. A rapist that stops raping and help shape a healthy society is good no? I see no downside in making the world a better place... Suffering is not punishment, it's revenge. And revenge is not justice, it's personal satisfaction, and that mentality is NOT good for a evolving society. We can clearly see that with how the americans deal with prisoners and "justice". It's finger pointing, happiness from suffering and condemning them as shit instantly with no point of coming back.
Imagine a world where instead of swiping all the bad shit under the rug, you adress the issue and try to work to make it better. You can execute all the people you want, lock them up to die or make them come out educated to be more efficient in their crimes. But the problem is not going away, even if hurting people you think deserve makes you feel all warm and fuzzy. Of course criminals won't get better if you ruin their future of rehabilitation. Or at least take away the chance to get improvement. It's medieval. Coming out of prison with a drivers license, a possible education and a chance to prosper is a good way that benefits everyone.
Think about the US again. They pay their taxes, but the vast majority goes to warfare and corporate businesses etc. So of course you don't like to pay them. But in other countries the taxes are way higher, but it goes towards everyone, you get it back, and it shows, especially when you need it. Now apply that mentality to the prison system. Of course you don't want criminals to get out of prison, nobody cares about them enough to give them a chance to rehabilitate. If i lived in such a shitshow of a system I would probably think like that too. But that entire system is existant because the people are afraid to change because it benefits them RIGHT NOW, until it goes bad, which constantly is.
Prisons aren't there to satisfy your hard on for revenge, it's to repair what society can't handle. So prisons is a gateway for improvement. Not a hole to toss your dirty laundry in. If criminals are rampart and peopel are extremely affected, fix your society, and the mindset you have is one of the reasons why things aren't improving related to this, it's getting worse.
@@Gnossiene369 As an American I have to completely agree with your insight. We do not have a functional “corrections” system. We have a revenge and punishment for profit system and that is not what a prison system should be. Our broken prison industrial complex is a mirror of the worst parts of our society. While Charlie Bronson is a notoriously violent man he is not the murderous monster the broken US prison system would have created.
sometimes though there are men who want to go to prison just so they can read the Koran all day and have their basic needs taken care of, so they have murdered a woman and just sat down waiting for the cops
"Guy Ritchie, I demand you cast Stephen Gillen in your next film!"
This was great and thanks for sharing some info from your persepctive on things.
It's time to free charlie mate. It's horrific how long he has been locked up.
Refn Winding usually takes the psyhedelic approach, this is actually very grounded with the guy. You could see a bit of it already in how the camera moves and certain scenes in Pusher series. With Bronson where he got a bit bigger budget and more international audience he started to take it more and more there. Obviously Bronson and Drive are still the more viewer friendly experiences than the later work where you will like it or hate it essentially. I think the absurd aspect of the movie works in a sense that it's so in your face that the viewer knows everything ain't grounded and it does make you search more in real life info of Charlie. Atleast I watched couple of docs, read about him, searched had he seen the film (yes they let him watch it) and watched all kinds of old news etc. footage. Kinda like with Chopper, the movie did the same for me.
I always thought this film was one of NWR and Hardy’s greatest but I had no idea it had some actual accurate moments. I’m only halfway in but I hope he addresses the incredible Matt King Character. One of the best cameo characters in history. The gloves killed me.
Bronsons advice to tom about cutting things of even if it hurts is something everyone should tale a deep look into themself and follow that advice . Brilliant advice and way of telling it
Tom Hardy is a brilliant actor.
Great indepth review. From someone who has actually seen the other side. Stephen is the evidence that shows stepping out of the dark and changing your life is possible.
If you are strong enough.
Keep it going
Wise words, thank you 👍👍
Stepping out of darkness is only possible with genuine good choices being available -- good choices that should have been available before the first "bad choice" was made, or at least a system to prevent harms from happening in the first place.
Just watched this film a couple of days ago for the first time.. absolute masterpiece. Loved it.
Some people you can throw into prison and treat like trash and it'll scare them back straight.... but more often than not, traumatising an already traumatised person tends to make whatever problems that person is dealing with internally exponentially worse, to a point it creates mental and emotional scars that will irreversibly change a person forever and often for the worse, and I feel that's EXACTLY what happened to Charlie.
I don't know if he was ever actually a nut case or not, he was just a bit of an odd guy that did things in an odd way and he had an extremely low tolerance for bullshit. But the worse people treated him, the worse he would give back, and it doesn't take a genius to realise that if you keep doing this to a person over and over for decades it'll turn them kinda crazy. In cases like Charlie the prison system does MUCH more harm than it helps. To keep someone, anyone, in those kind of sustained conditions is nothing short of state sanctioned cruelty.
Thought this guy was extremely articulate in such a strange way, I don’t know I can’t explain it but seems incredibly wise and was a good watch!!
Good work. Subjective and informative. As someone who has spent some time within the UK prison system and from time to time emded up in 'the block ' the thought of being banged up for years like that is horrendous. (The Block is solitary with nothing. Concrete seat ,concrete bed and concrete food.) Yet there are 'people' (are they even human?) Ie - bacons who have commited horrific crimes against children who get treated like guests in a hotel in there protected wings and get paroled early for 'good behaviour!'
Charlie bronson has never killed anyone, yet hes still inside now!
The system looks after its own.
I liked the film and tom hardy. Hes a very versatile actor. From Bronson to things like Venom and even war movie's I always have a gander if hes cast.
But yeah, the surrealistic element in Bronson while making it more appealing to their target audience could possibly have been somewhat less in favour of a more detailed view of the life and events that led to Charlie Bronson growing into the legend that he is today. Thank you.