@Cegesh The « caher » in Caherconnel? It makes sense that Caiseal comes from Castellum, but how & why did Irish borrow from Latin? Was it through early Christianity?
@@timflatus Wikipedia says the root word of castle is castellum. There are two Irish words for castle, caisleán which sounds like a Gaelicized spelling of a term that was probably brought by the Anglo-Normans. The other one is dúnfort, which I would guess is closer to the Germanic term since it shares the word "fort" with ringfort and dún just means stronghold. So probably, the word dúnfort is older and refers to the Germanic ringforts and caisleán refers to the later, post-Roman structures.
PanglossDr I think your spelling is AWEFUL (awful). Why not learn to read before you try to sound intelligent by criticising someone. Now, see how you sounded? I'm not an ass, I just wanted to reply to you the way you did to him to let you see what you sounded like. Here's a hint: it wasn't like an educated and knowledgeable adult. I will leave you alone now so you can go finish doing research for your fine educational video series, or the eye opening book you're writing or whatever it is you are doing with your life that makes it understandable that you would criticize someone who is actually trying to do something...I wish you nothing but luck.
@@PanglossDr If someone had to learn every language pronunciation and regional dialect to produce a video then this entire branch of content would be a nightmare to make, especially for smaller youtube channels doing it out of passion and not money.
@@31ll087 If someone is going to do a video on any country I expect them to learn the pronunciation for any words used in that video. I can pronounce words, place names, etc. in more than 25 languages. I make the effort.
@@PanglossDr OOOh look at mister big man over here with his 25 languages. How long did it take you to learn that? Probably not a week or 2 which is the time it takes for these types of educational videos to be made. You gotta remember that these people do this as a job and taking months to learn a language only a few 1000 people speak daily is just a big waste of time.
You should make those fade-out/in transitions faster. Felt like I was losing visual focus for far too long. My eyes beg for mercy. Love the vids, so please don't be perturbed with the suggestion!
2:54 The Irish were one of the most civilised and advanced civilisations in all of europe back then. Despite the not so beautiful architecture the people back then were incredible. Research the "*Brehon* *Laws*" and believe me you'll be astounded at then. These were used across the entire island and by all Irish.
Hi Hilbert, what do you think was the reason for the success of Christianity in late ancient and early medieval Ireland? When I studied the spread of Islam in Western Africa I found out that it was closely connected to trade - with the belief came writing and accounting techniques as well as potential trading partners. Was Ireland a similar case?
@Geong Lēasere This is nonsense. Quiet apart from the fact that those Irish invasions happend in the 5th century Britain was rechristianized by Irish missionaries in the early Middle Ages, and quite a few parts of continental Europe first came into contact with Christianity through Irish missionaries. There are a lot of German towns and villages, for instance, that can be traced back to monasteries founded by Irish monks. The early Irish church is also famous for its conflict with Rome and the unusual role of women.
@ Geong Lēasere Before resorting to insults you should at least consult wikipedia: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Christianity_in_Ireland Concerning the role of women in the early Irish church I recommend reading "Women in a Celtic Church: Ireland 450 - 1150" by Christina Harrington. And of course there was contact between Ireland and the continent, and in the 7th century Irish and Roman church traditions (which differed in much more than just the tonsure of monks) clashed in Northumbria which culminated in the synod of Whitby. And while the Gregorian mission had indeed reintroduced Christianity to the south of Britain large parts were rechristianised by Irish monks such as Aidan of Lindisfarne, for example. Irish missionaries founded monasteries in what is now Germany as early as the sixth and seventh centuries (e.g. St. Trudbert in the Black Forest) which shows how well established Christianity was in Ireland by that time. So my question still is: What was the reason for the success of Christianity in Ireland? If you cannot answer this question but only mean to insult others there is no need for you to reply.
@Geong Lēasere As expected all you know is how to insult others. *plonk* (And just for other people's interest: www.kloster-st-trudpert.de/kloster/geschichte/kloster/)
Brian Boru was from Killaloe not Cashell and was a member of the Dal gCais who was a group of families who all have a common ancestor and the O'Connells I believe we're not one of them
There are four provinces in Ireland,Ulster,Munster, Leinster and Connaught. In the period that this video covers there was a fifth province called Meade, which roughly covered the areas of the current counties of Meath and Westmeath and where these countries derive their name from.
Dubhghail means dark stranger which is my name.. Mcdougall in English and as wrote above in Scots... And was used i hear to determine friend from foe, the Danes and or Norse being fairer haired, my hair is long and jet black ⚫... theres a few other thoughts on it too, our original chief being son of Somered Dougal.. and us Mac or Mc, being the sons of Dougal,
@@jbearmcdougall1646 Genetic work in Ireland has showing that many of this families with a scandinavian named ancester MacAmhlaoibh (Olaf) Ó Beirne (Bjorn), Doyle Ó Dúbhghaill , McDowell (Mac Dubhghaill) dont have any significant Scandinavian markers. It was just a Gaelic ancestor with a fashionable Scandinavian name.
In the fictional story of Brian Boru titled The Lion of Ireland , it is explained that Dublin was founded at the ford crossing the swamp land that would be called the black pool .
There is a map here showing Irish names of 'Viking' origin. www.irishorigenes.com/content/first-case-study-exhibiting-viking-ancestry-added-irish-origenes
@Never Unprepared as someone from a part of my country where the names are often mispronounced by even my fellow countrymen, I don't see the problem with clarifying what things sound like. There are towns a little ways away called things like "Cataumet", "Cotuit", "Scituit", and "Berlin" (pronounced BER-lin, as they will quickly correct you on). As someone who grew up here, I can only pronounce half of the names given. Point being, people who come from places with different linguistic history should be allowed to make mistakes and help others to not make them. Just be glad that so many people from other parts of the world are interested in Irish history. Also, OP was making a tongue-in-cheek joke. Goodbye from your Beantown kinsmen.
Really enjoy your videos and learn so much about my homeland.. I feel a sense of belonging watching how my ancestors lived. You are such a brilliant video maker and learn something from every single vid I watch. Thankyou from an irish english woman locked down in Australia 💚✌⭐🌼🌳🌎🌞🆒
For anyone who is interested when he is saying the kingdoms Leinster, Ulster, Munster and Connaught, the latter-most is pronounced more "connauct" rather than "connaut" as he says. It isn't however as harsh sounding as as the German "nacht", as there isn't as much throat in it. EDIT: When he is talking of Dublin, and how it comes from Dubh Linn, dubh is not "doo" rather "duv", bh makes a "v" sound.
It actually depends on the dialect. In Ulster Irish it's pronounced "doo". I had this conversation with a Donegal friend over how to pronounce the name of a bar in Galway called "Roisín Dubh".
The "ster" in the provincial names are Norman in nature. In pre-norman times the kingdoms were Laigin (leinster), Mumu (munster), Ulliad (ulster), Connacht (pronounced with a hard "oct"), smaller kingdoms included Breifne, Airgialla, Ossory, and sometimes Mide was seperate (perhaps when the highkingship was in dispute). Great vids all the same!
Ireland just reminds me of the shire and hobbiton. I don’t know why, but my mum comes from there and a lot of my family lives there, so it’s kind of like a second home, which is the sort of feeling that hobbiton is meant to give to you, I guess.
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If you can find the Brehon texts (old Irish laws) online you'll get insights into how they might have formed their society. Various individual kings/dynasties and clans all had their own areas. There was no military in the sense of professional paid armies. People would have fought for their individual clans. So a chain of command might have been like a small time chieftain or rí/king offering some men to fight alongside a stronger chieftain and so on and so forth. It may have been a caste based society at some point also, with warriors at the top, but that's not to say all clans would have adhered to this.
@@juxyoh4659 Ireland most certainly did have clans, as did Scotland. There were what you might call 'noble houses' also. Dynasties like the Uí Neill, the Uí Briain or the Eoghanachta before them who were able to exert a degree of overlordship over an area. I'm curious as to what you base your assertion on. What is your definition of a 'clan' and what is your definition of a 'noble house'?
There were multiple levels of kings so while a petty king might just control the land from this hill to that river and gain men and tribute from them their overking would get tribute and men from their petty kings, and those overkings might also have overkings, and if someone managed to get all the overkingdoms under their control they'd be the high king. But my understanding is that nobody was above the Brehon laws and overkings would only retain their authority for as long as they were viewed as respectable and legitimate, and people would not pay tribute to a weak or dishonorable overking. It's also worth noting that reputations carried over from an individual to their family and visa-versa, so we see in Irish history that some families like the O'Neill's and the O'Brien's have more power and influence as they're viewed as powerful, respectable and legitimate families. I'm not an expert, that is just my understanding of how it all worked, information is somewhat scarce. My understanding is that nobody wanted to pay tribute or respect to an overking that was tyrannical as the Irish valued their ability to live their lives as they chose. My understanding is that men served their pettykings and overkings in part out of obligation and in part out of respect and people wouldn't obey someone without some repectability. A poor leader would not have been able to field a large army. If anyone has any information that contradicts what I have said then I would be interested in reading that.
Interesting video!! It has inspired me to read more into the history of Vikings in Ireland! One quick question, why do you think the Irish were better able at fighting off the Vikings than the English?
Vikings settled in Ireland around Dublin, Waterford and Limerick but as far as I know there was never a Viking invasion on the scale of the Danish invasion of England.
They adopted and adapted the Daneaxe. Mobility and survival value. Minimal armour, but up close and personal with armour piercing axes. It worked, but I imagine it took a certain kind of psychology.
Brian Bóruma was part of the Dal gCais tribe. I believe his father to be Cennétig Mac Lorcáin. Not sure if he belong to the connels. I know the Dal gCais tribe had many family's, well over 50, including my own (McNamara). I'm not entirely sure that the Connel or O'Connel name is associated with the Dal gCais. The McNamara's and the O Briains were very close not just related through blood, through military exploits, fighting both with each other and against each other. All in all, all members of the Dal gCais derive from Cormac Cas, and Aengus Óg before him. There is alot more to the histories, but I wanted to give a brief of what I have learnt, I may not be 100% accurate, as there are many different people who say different things
Thank you for the interesting lecture. I have been here number of times. This area is a treasure trove of Irish Archaeology. By the way, Dublin is I believe a viking word, not gaelic.
Hi Hilbert, I love your videos but please stop referring to the island of Britain as the "Main land" when talking about Ireland. Britain is the mainland when talking about the Isle of Wight, the Isle of man or the hebridies etc. but not Ireland. Ireland is not some small island off the coast of Britain. That is very annoying for an Irish person. We tolerate the name "British Isles" but reluctantly. All that aside, keep making great videos.
Castra, (Latin) caer Caisteal, csstle, château, qaşr, (arabic) Kastel. It was suggested to me that the Norse who raided upriver into the Périgord, came from Éire.
Thank you for your great video. I recommend you check out Fin Dwyer's irish history podcast if you like this. He does an amazing deep dive into irish history, including parts of timeline dealt with here. Again it's great to have non-irish take a look at our history for a different perspective.
Egliker Islensku! Det er bra xD Thank you, I'm glad you liked it, if you get a chance to see some of the prehistoric sites in the Burren or at the Bru Na Bhoine it's well worth it :)
@@xotan It's funny for me to read that stuff. It's kinda my language, and kinda not (I'm Norwegian). If I'm not mistaken, Vikings and Norse traders who came to the British isles didn't need to learn the whole language anew, like today. They weren't technically "Norwegian" back then though, but Norse tribes. Here's the whole thing translated to Norwegian and English, for comparison: Forfeður mínir tóku þræla frá Írlandi Forfedrene mine tok treller (slaver) fra Irland My forefathers took thralls (slaves) from Ireland Eg liker Islensku! Jeg liker islandsk! I like Icelandic! Kannski voru þeir forfeður mínir. Kanskje var de forfedrene mine. Maybe they were my forefathers. (Note the word-shuffling here.) Ég verð að koma til Íslands og stela nokkrum þrælum Jeg [tenker det er] verdt å komme til Island og stjele noen treller (literal trans) I [think it's] worth going to Island and steal some thralls verð (No.: Verdi, Eng.: Value/Worth) also has an element of "to be", vera (No.: være) Þakka himnum fyrir Google Translate LOL Takk himlen for Google Translate LOL (we'd say "Takk Gud" [thank God]) Thank heavens for Google Translate LOL
I have read that the Norse that Brian Boru defeated were a group of Norse who had left Norway because of pressure by Harald to convert to Christianity. They were a high living Heathen warrior aristocracy and were unwelcome in Dublin by both the native Irish and the settled Scandinavians. They were repulsed, some went to the Wirral, some went to Northumberland and some went on to Iceland.
To study Brehon Law, the Gaelic laws, is to understand a sophisticated civilization, one that our own modern Western society would do well to relearn from.
Latin, books, learning etc were preserved in Irish monasteries better than anywhere else in the British Isles during the early medieval. Helping to preserve much of what otherwise would have been lost. Known as the Land of Saints and Scholars. It wasn't the lack of Roman influence that differentiated Ireland from Britain but the fact that there was largely no economic resources. Maybe timber or subsistence agriculture. This along with the small size and population the island was inevitably to become just an adjunct or colony to its large and powerful neighbor, England. Great video btw.
Surely they built it for protection, not just from Vikings but also neighbours. We secure our properties and assets today with no threat of invaders. Todays professional Rugbys teams are named after the 4 provinces and there was a High King based at Tara in Co. Meath. Dublin was founded by the Vikings although there may of been a settlement there already, the sea and rivers can be considered motorways from back then, safest way to travel, Dubh = Black Linn =poll is named after the black pool, part of the poodle river, which is today located in Dublin Castle. The Romans did visit but didnt invade. Maybe they had enough problems with the Scots and decided not to open another can of worms. Thanks for the video and lets all hope we can all see friendly visitors from foreign shores soon. Back then I would expect a stranger to be considered a threat, either with disease or a scout. It may explain the importance of clan tartans.
The Dun in Dhublin comes from the Gael word Duinn/Donn which is the name of the proto Gaelic god of death and warriors, it only means “dark” in modern Irish because Duinn was known as “the dark one”
I'm sorry I completely forgot about your project! If you like you can inbox me here or on my facebook page about it because I (might) know something which could be useful.
Nearly right. Actually, the Battle of Clontarf was between Dublin and the rest. There were certainly Irish fighting with Sitric and probably Norsemen with Brian.
Jugoslavenski Partizan its good to see people interested in the history. Brian Bóruma was part of the Dal gCais tribe. I believe his father to be Cennétig Mac Lorcáin. the Dal gCais tribe had many family's, well over 50, including my own (McNamara). I'm not entirely sure that the Connel or O'Connel name is associated with the Dal gCais. The McNamara's and the O Briains were very close not just related through blood, through military exploits, fighting both with each other and against each other. All in all, all members of the Dal gCais derive from Cormac Cas, and Aengus Óg before him.
2 things... #1• learn where the counties are in Ireland. #2•And never use the word 'probably ' it sounds like your guessing.. we know we all use the term when talking history, because ,we really don't know, and are in fact taking an educated stab in the dark .. probably. !
Warning hilburt you will offend alot of irish pepole by rearing too Britain as mainland Ireland is a ceperat island altogether the mainland is Europe if you want too use that term and even the term British Isles is slightly irritating (term only developed in the 18th century) they are the Isles of Britain and Ireland or the Northern Isles of you want too use roman terms
Hilbert - Please never use the term 'Mainland' Britain, it is not the mainland, Europe is. It is so condescending and insulting to Irish people. Rathlin Island was actually then off the coast of Northern Ireland, was it not always. Celtic Irish, what are they? If you are going to talk about Ireland, learn to pronounce the place names. God, what rubbish. Gaelic is not our language, Irish is. Never, never call it Gaelic, you really insult us you know. Typical ignorant, arrogant British.
Leave him alone and learn your history. Gaelic is/was our language, Gaeilge. The people of this island were called gaels before the place was even called Ireland. Irish people are gaelic people.
I find Irish history fascinating
Civilising thing!, Brehon Law and systems were up and running in Ireland long before the Romans or Brits.
Exactly
My hair went up on the back of my neck whenever they use that word civilizing. They really just don’t get it.
The Island of Saints and Scholars, so friggin' savage 🙄
Caiseal (cashel ) is an Irish word that predates castles in Ireland ands most likely comes from Roman castellum. The Irish for castle is caisleán.
Caher looks like it derives from the same root as Welsh « Caer », so probably isn't derived from Latin « Castrum ».
@Cegesh The « caher » in Caherconnel? It makes sense that Caiseal comes from Castellum, but how & why did Irish borrow from Latin? Was it through early Christianity?
@@timflatus Caher may be an Anglicized form of cathair which means 'city' in Irish
@@KB-gt6ep exactly. It would be interesting to trace it linguistically. Sound change rules should tell us whether its cognate or not.
@@timflatus Wikipedia says the root word of castle is castellum. There are two Irish words for castle, caisleán which sounds like a Gaelicized spelling of a term that was probably brought by the Anglo-Normans. The other one is dúnfort, which I would guess is closer to the Germanic term since it shares the word "fort" with ringfort and dún just means stronghold. So probably, the word dúnfort is older and refers to the Germanic ringforts and caisleán refers to the later, post-Roman structures.
I am russian, love Irland culture and interested in its history...
Tell Vladimir that he can sleep soundly. We have no immediate plans to invade 😂
Good pronunciations for a Sasanach ;) Enjoyed the video!
I thought the pronunciation was aweful. Why produce a video like this without educating yourself first. I found it very insulting and inaccurate.
PanglossDr I think your spelling is AWEFUL (awful). Why not learn to read before you try to sound intelligent by criticising someone. Now, see how you sounded? I'm not an ass, I just wanted to reply to you the way you did to him to let you see what you sounded like. Here's a hint: it wasn't like an educated and knowledgeable adult. I will leave you alone now so you can go finish doing research for your fine educational video series, or the eye opening book you're writing or whatever it is you are doing with your life that makes it understandable that you would criticize someone who is actually trying to do something...I wish you nothing but luck.
@@PanglossDr If someone had to learn every language pronunciation and regional dialect to produce a video then this entire branch of content would be a nightmare to make, especially for smaller youtube channels doing it out of passion and not money.
@@31ll087 If someone is going to do a video on any country I expect them to learn the pronunciation for any words used in that video. I can pronounce words, place names, etc. in more than 25 languages. I make the effort.
@@PanglossDr OOOh look at mister big man over here with his 25 languages. How long did it take you to learn that? Probably not a week or 2 which is the time it takes for these types of educational videos to be made. You gotta remember that these people do this as a job and taking months to learn a language only a few 1000 people speak daily is just a big waste of time.
Excellent video, greatly enjoyed your presentation of this wondrous topic.
You should make those fade-out/in transitions faster. Felt like I was losing visual focus for far too long. My eyes beg for mercy. Love the vids, so please don't be perturbed with the suggestion!
Fuck your vision BITCH
2:54 The Irish were one of the most civilised and advanced civilisations in all of europe back then.
Despite the not so beautiful architecture the people back then were incredible.
Research the "*Brehon* *Laws*" and believe me you'll be astounded at then. These were used across the entire island and by all Irish.
Being from Clare it's a good video and I live right by that ring fort
Hi Hilbert, what do you think was the reason for the success of Christianity in late ancient and early medieval Ireland? When I studied the spread of Islam in Western Africa I found out that it was closely connected to trade - with the belief came writing and accounting techniques as well as potential trading partners. Was Ireland a similar case?
@Geong Lēasere This is nonsense. Quiet apart from the fact that those Irish invasions happend in the 5th century Britain was rechristianized by Irish missionaries in the early Middle Ages, and quite a few parts of continental Europe first came into contact with Christianity through Irish missionaries. There are a lot of German towns and villages, for instance, that can be traced back to monasteries founded by Irish monks. The early Irish church is also famous for its conflict with Rome and the unusual role of women.
@Geong Lēasere You keep not answering the question I asked.
@Geong Lēasere Well, I did - actually this thread started with it as you will notice when you go back to your first reply.
@ Geong Lēasere Before resorting to insults you should at least consult wikipedia: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Christianity_in_Ireland Concerning the role of women in the early Irish church I recommend reading "Women in a Celtic Church: Ireland 450 - 1150" by Christina Harrington. And of course there was contact between Ireland and the continent, and in the 7th century Irish and Roman church traditions (which differed in much more than just the tonsure of monks) clashed in Northumbria which culminated in the synod of Whitby.
And while the Gregorian mission had indeed reintroduced Christianity to the south of Britain large parts were rechristianised by Irish monks such as Aidan of Lindisfarne, for example. Irish missionaries founded monasteries in what is now Germany as early as the sixth and seventh centuries (e.g. St. Trudbert in the Black Forest) which shows how well established Christianity was in Ireland by that time.
So my question still is: What was the reason for the success of Christianity in Ireland? If you cannot answer this question but only mean to insult others there is no need for you to reply.
@Geong Lēasere As expected all you know is how to insult others. *plonk*
(And just for other people's interest: www.kloster-st-trudpert.de/kloster/geschichte/kloster/)
Brian Boru was from Killaloe not Cashell and was a member of the Dal gCais who was a group of families who all have a common ancestor and the O'Connells I believe we're not one of them
Thank you very much for this.
There are four provinces in Ireland,Ulster,Munster, Leinster and Connaught. In the period that this video covers there was a fifth province called Meade, which roughly covered the areas of the current counties of Meath and Westmeath and where these countries derive their name from.
The Danes also came to Ireland and were called Danair and Dubhghaill (dark foreigners)
Michael Roche wasn’t just danish Vikings they were from all over Scandinavia
Dubhghail means dark stranger which is my name..
Mcdougall in English and as wrote above in Scots...
And was used i hear to determine friend from foe, the Danes and or Norse being fairer haired, my hair is long and jet black ⚫... theres a few other thoughts on it too, our original chief being son of Somered Dougal.. and us Mac or Mc, being the sons of Dougal,
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@@jbearmcdougall1646 Genetic work in Ireland has showing that many of this families with a scandinavian named ancester MacAmhlaoibh (Olaf) Ó Beirne (Bjorn), Doyle Ó Dúbhghaill , McDowell (Mac Dubhghaill) dont have any significant Scandinavian markers. It was just a Gaelic ancestor with a fashionable Scandinavian name.
There are a ring fort in Burt Donegal... its placed on top of a mountain so they could see around for miles.
The name of Dublin was nothing to do with the liffy it has to do with a smaller river which is now under the current city of Dublin
Dublin comes from Dubh Linn meaning black pool, what they called Dublin Bay.
The Poddle...
In the fictional story of Brian Boru titled The Lion of Ireland , it is explained that Dublin was founded at the ford crossing the swamp land that would be called the black pool .
If I ever build my own home/castle it's getting a big fuck off wall around it like the ring fort that'd be cool.
😂 Great idea I would like the same but I can see planning permission problems.
There is a map here showing Irish names of 'Viking' origin. www.irishorigenes.com/content/first-case-study-exhibiting-viking-ancestry-added-irish-origenes
Caherconnel means small castle. Caster hill. Who said the Romans never went to Ireland.
'Civilizing thing', that's a bit rude, typical sassenach!
@Never Unprepared as someone from a part of my country where the names are often mispronounced by even my fellow countrymen, I don't see the problem with clarifying what things sound like. There are towns a little ways away called things like "Cataumet", "Cotuit", "Scituit", and "Berlin" (pronounced BER-lin, as they will quickly correct you on).
As someone who grew up here, I can only pronounce half of the names given. Point being, people who come from places with different linguistic history should be allowed to make mistakes and help others to not make them.
Just be glad that so many people from other parts of the world are interested in Irish history. Also, OP was making a tongue-in-cheek joke.
Goodbye from your Beantown kinsmen.
@Nunquam Non Paratus o can barely pronounce welsh words..
Sounds rude but when referred to as "pax Romano" I understand where they´re coming from.
@@userequaltoNull Well said fella!! 👍👌
He's Dutch not a brit
I love your videos, mate. Keep up the good work
is there a good video about the vikings in Dublin?
More on Ireland please mate cheers
Liverpool also comes the Anglo-Saxon word liver for muddy or thick. Strange to think that both sides of the Irish Sea share the same name meanings.
And the area around Liverpool had quite a bit of Norse settlement as well e.g Aintree, Formby, Crosby, Meols, and Ormskirk.
Really enjoy your videos and learn so much about my homeland.. I feel a sense of belonging watching how my ancestors lived. You are such a brilliant video maker and learn something from every single vid I watch. Thankyou from an irish english woman locked down in Australia 💚✌⭐🌼🌳🌎🌞🆒
For anyone who is interested when he is saying the kingdoms Leinster, Ulster, Munster and Connaught, the latter-most is pronounced more "connauct" rather than "connaut" as he says. It isn't however as harsh sounding as as the German "nacht", as there isn't as much throat in it.
EDIT:
When he is talking of Dublin, and how it comes from Dubh Linn, dubh is not "doo" rather "duv", bh makes a "v" sound.
It actually depends on the dialect. In Ulster Irish it's pronounced "doo". I had this conversation with a Donegal friend over how to pronounce the name of a bar in Galway called "Roisín Dubh".
2/3 of the dialects pronounce it at "dove/duv" though.
@@justbeyondthecornerproduct3540 True
Great work H
The "ster" in the provincial names are Norman in nature. In pre-norman times the kingdoms were Laigin (leinster), Mumu (munster), Ulliad (ulster), Connacht (pronounced with a hard "oct"), smaller kingdoms included Breifne, Airgialla, Ossory, and sometimes Mide was seperate (perhaps when the highkingship was in dispute). Great vids all the same!
That much tougher?
Ireland just reminds me of the shire and hobbiton. I don’t know why, but my mum comes from there and a lot of my family lives there, so it’s kind of like a second home, which is the sort of feeling that hobbiton is meant to give to you, I guess.
'To the great Gaels of Ireland, Those the Gods made mad, For all their wars are happy. and all their songs are sad.'
GK Chesterton
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How did the Irish of this time organize their society and military,? Did their military actually have a chain of command?
If you can find the Brehon texts (old Irish laws) online you'll get insights into how they might have formed their society. Various individual kings/dynasties and clans all had their own areas.
There was no military in the sense of professional paid armies. People would have fought for their individual clans. So a chain of command might have been like a small time chieftain or rí/king offering some men to fight alongside a stronger chieftain and so on and so forth. It may have been a caste based society at some point also, with warriors at the top, but that's not to say all clans would have adhered to this.
Cian Coffey Ireland never had clans. It’s funny how everywhere else they’re called noble houses, but in Ireland they’re ‘clans’ or ‘tribes’.
@@juxyoh4659 Ireland most certainly did have clans, as did Scotland.
There were what you might call 'noble houses' also. Dynasties like the Uí Neill, the Uí Briain or the Eoghanachta before them who were able to exert a degree of overlordship over an area.
I'm curious as to what you base your assertion on. What is your definition of a 'clan' and what is your definition of a 'noble house'?
There were multiple levels of kings so while a petty king might just control the land from this hill to that river and gain men and tribute from them their overking would get tribute and men from their petty kings, and those overkings might also have overkings, and if someone managed to get all the overkingdoms under their control they'd be the high king. But my understanding is that nobody was above the Brehon laws and overkings would only retain their authority for as long as they were viewed as respectable and legitimate, and people would not pay tribute to a weak or dishonorable overking. It's also worth noting that reputations carried over from an individual to their family and visa-versa, so we see in Irish history that some families like the O'Neill's and the O'Brien's have more power and influence as they're viewed as powerful, respectable and legitimate families.
I'm not an expert, that is just my understanding of how it all worked, information is somewhat scarce. My understanding is that nobody wanted to pay tribute or respect to an overking that was tyrannical as the Irish valued their ability to live their lives as they chose. My understanding is that men served their pettykings and overkings in part out of obligation and in part out of respect and people wouldn't obey someone without some repectability. A poor leader would not have been able to field a large army.
If anyone has any information that contradicts what I have said then I would be interested in reading that.
Interesting video!! It has inspired me to read more into the history of Vikings in Ireland! One quick question, why do you think the Irish were better able at fighting off the Vikings than the English?
Vikings settled in Ireland around Dublin, Waterford and Limerick but as far as I know there was never a Viking invasion on the scale of the Danish invasion of England.
They adopted and adapted the Daneaxe. Mobility and survival value. Minimal armour, but up close and personal with armour piercing axes. It worked, but I imagine it took a certain kind of psychology.
Dublin is derived from the Irish dubh linn meaning "black pool”, but its Irish name is Baile Átha Cliath meaning "town of the hurdled ford".
Brian Bóruma was part of the Dal gCais tribe. I believe his father to be Cennétig Mac Lorcáin. Not sure if he belong to the connels. I know the Dal gCais tribe had many family's, well over 50, including my own (McNamara). I'm not entirely sure that the Connel or O'Connel name is associated with the Dal gCais. The McNamara's and the O Briains were very close not just related through blood, through military exploits, fighting both with each other and against each other. All in all, all members of the Dal gCais derive from Cormac Cas, and Aengus Óg before him. There is alot more to the histories, but I wanted to give a brief of what I have learnt, I may not be 100% accurate, as there are many different people who say different things
Thank you for the interesting lecture. I have been here number of times. This area is a treasure trove of Irish Archaeology. By the way, Dublin is I believe a viking word, not gaelic.
Hi Hilbert, I love your videos but please stop referring to the island of Britain as the "Main land" when talking about Ireland. Britain is the mainland when talking about the Isle of Wight, the Isle of man or the hebridies etc. but not Ireland. Ireland is not some small island off the coast of Britain. That is very annoying for an Irish person. We tolerate the name "British Isles" but reluctantly. All that aside, keep making great videos.
Castra, (Latin) caer Caisteal, csstle, château, qaşr, (arabic) Kastel.
It was suggested to me that the Norse who raided upriver into the Périgord, came from Éire.
Thank you for your great video. I recommend you check out Fin Dwyer's irish history podcast if you like this. He does an amazing deep dive into irish history, including parts of timeline dealt with here. Again it's great to have non-irish take a look at our history for a different perspective.
Forfeður mínir tóku þræla frá Írlandi
Forfeður mínir tóku þræla frá Írlandi p.s. great videos and I will write more in Icelandic
Egliker Islensku! Det er bra xD Thank you, I'm glad you liked it, if you get a chance to see some of the prehistoric sites in the Burren or at the Bru Na Bhoine it's well worth it :)
takk
Did you know nearly 100% of Icelandic female DNA comes from Ireland?
Kannski voru þeir forfeður mínir.
Ég verð að koma til Íslands og stela nokkrum þrælum
Þakka himnum fyrir Google Translate LOL
@@xotan It's funny for me to read that stuff. It's kinda my language, and kinda not (I'm Norwegian). If I'm not mistaken, Vikings and Norse traders who came to the British isles didn't need to learn the whole language anew, like today. They weren't technically "Norwegian" back then though, but Norse tribes.
Here's the whole thing translated to Norwegian and English, for comparison:
Forfeður mínir tóku þræla frá Írlandi
Forfedrene mine tok treller (slaver) fra Irland
My forefathers took thralls (slaves) from Ireland
Eg liker Islensku!
Jeg liker islandsk!
I like Icelandic!
Kannski voru þeir forfeður mínir.
Kanskje var de forfedrene mine.
Maybe they were my forefathers. (Note the word-shuffling here.)
Ég verð að koma til Íslands og stela nokkrum þrælum
Jeg [tenker det er] verdt å komme til Island og stjele noen treller (literal trans)
I [think it's] worth going to Island and steal some thralls
verð (No.: Verdi, Eng.: Value/Worth) also has an element of "to be", vera (No.: være)
Þakka himnum fyrir Google Translate LOL
Takk himlen for Google Translate LOL (we'd say "Takk Gud" [thank God])
Thank heavens for Google Translate LOL
Interesting fact.... Irish consider Europe to be the mainland.
Proud of my Irish Scottish ancestry
I m Irish and I live around here in the Country side
You are wrong cathair means a town or little village
@Martin Cregan yes that's what I meant haha
Hi, I really enjoy your channel. This episode though was very poorly informed.
Subscribed and patiently awaiting vids about Medieval Irish Combat and Warfare
You've gotta fix that flickering, man.
I've looked through and I don't see any flickering :/
At what times do you see the flickering?
Technical problem on my end, as it turns out. Sorry for wasting to your time haha.
Ah no worries mate, hope it's up and running again :) Thanks for watching!
I have read that the Norse that Brian Boru defeated were a group of Norse who had left Norway because of pressure by Harald to convert to Christianity. They were a high living Heathen warrior aristocracy and were unwelcome in Dublin by both the native Irish and the settled Scandinavians. They were repulsed, some went to the Wirral, some went to Northumberland and some went on to Iceland.
jim crow majority of Norse in Ireland at this time were more Norse gaels
To study Brehon Law, the Gaelic laws, is to understand a sophisticated civilization, one that our own modern Western society would do well to relearn from.
Latin, books, learning etc were preserved in Irish monasteries better than anywhere else in the British Isles during the early medieval. Helping to preserve much of what otherwise would have been lost. Known as the Land of Saints and Scholars. It wasn't the lack of Roman influence that differentiated Ireland from Britain but the fact that there was largely no economic resources. Maybe timber or subsistence agriculture. This along with the small size and population the island was inevitably to become just an adjunct or colony to its large and powerful neighbor, England. Great video btw.
Surely they built it for protection, not just from Vikings but also neighbours. We secure our properties and assets today with no threat of invaders. Todays professional Rugbys teams are named after the 4 provinces and there was a High King based at Tara in Co. Meath. Dublin was founded by the Vikings although there may of been a settlement there already, the sea and rivers can be considered motorways from back then, safest way to travel, Dubh = Black Linn =poll is named after the black pool, part of the poodle river, which is today located in Dublin Castle. The Romans did visit but didnt invade. Maybe they had enough problems with the Scots and decided not to open another can of worms. Thanks for the video and lets all hope we can all see friendly visitors from foreign shores soon. Back then I would expect a stranger to be considered a threat, either with disease or a scout. It may explain the importance of clan tartans.
Cashel/Caiseal comes from Castellum not Castle.
The Dun in Dhublin comes from the Gael word Duinn/Donn which is the name of the proto Gaelic god of death and warriors, it only means “dark” in modern Irish because Duinn was known as “the dark one”
It was a dark age in places that weren't mediterranean from about 400 - 750 or so, though.
thank yew hilbert
What is it with history channels and not doing proper research in Irish pronunciation?
Is mise an rí fíor amháin in Éirinn!
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No dislikes. Nice to see
pst, merovingians
great video though! "subscribble"
I'm sorry I completely forgot about your project! If you like you can inbox me here or on my facebook page about it because I (might) know something which could be useful.
It's all good, at this point you can just make the video, the project doesn't have any assigned date it's more like a personal project.
it was the saxon who where backward
There is a place is Ireland witch the high kings of ireland fight over call Meath
ERIN GO BRAGH!!!!
Thx for mentioning Brian brou! I might be related to him so I'm trying to learn a lot about him
I'm reasonably sure that Brian Boru was a MacMahon and not an O Connell.
Wasn't he a Kennedy?
You got that from Wikipedia didn't you?
Nearly right. Actually, the Battle of Clontarf was between Dublin and the rest. There were certainly Irish fighting with Sitric and probably Norsemen with Brian.
Jugoslavenski Partizan its good to see people interested in the history. Brian Bóruma was part of the Dal gCais tribe. I believe his father to be Cennétig Mac Lorcáin. the Dal gCais tribe had many family's, well over 50, including my own (McNamara). I'm not entirely sure that the Connel or O'Connel name is associated with the Dal gCais. The McNamara's and the O Briains were very close not just related through blood, through military exploits, fighting both with each other and against each other. All in all, all members of the Dal gCais derive from Cormac Cas, and Aengus Óg before him.
... hilbert b - eclectic (very, berry good thang, indeed). random association is OK, but ur in da elevated orbit (keep aspinnin') ....
Hello from the U.S.A
kid sid hello
A lot of your videos are very inaccurate! Wikipedia is not that reliable!
a small fort
My Irish surname in English means Son of Olaf
please stop fading pictures in and out of each other, i can't see a thing! and it hurts my eyes to try.
Now a days dublin is called black pool in because of the huge pools of Guinness.
2 things...
#1• learn where the counties are in Ireland.
#2•And never use the word 'probably ' it sounds like your guessing.. we know we all use the term when talking history, because ,we really don't know, and are in fact taking an educated stab in the dark .. probably. !
Norwegian:
Now this is a good day to raid.
Irish:
Hi.
Norwegian:
Ah shit here we go again
*Norwegians proceed to get massacred*
Warning hilburt you will offend alot of irish pepole by rearing too Britain as mainland Ireland is a ceperat island altogether the mainland is Europe if you want too use that term and even the term British Isles is slightly irritating (term only developed in the 18th century) they are the Isles of Britain and Ireland or the Northern Isles of you want too use roman terms
don't know anything about old Irish history..👌👌👌👌
English cannot tell history without lying and imposing Anglocentrism. Sad. Also, a really crappy telling of this story.
Northern Ireland is not a country it’s just Ireland.
You have not got a clue about Ireland 🤯🤪
dubh = black, yes
Hilbert - Please never use the term 'Mainland' Britain, it is not the mainland, Europe is. It is so condescending and insulting to Irish people. Rathlin Island was actually then off the coast of Northern Ireland, was it not always. Celtic Irish, what are they? If you are going to talk about Ireland, learn to pronounce the place names. God, what rubbish. Gaelic is not our language, Irish is. Never, never call it Gaelic, you really insult us you know. Typical ignorant, arrogant British.
Leave him alone and learn your history.
Gaelic is/was our language, Gaeilge. The people of this island were called gaels before the place was even called Ireland. Irish people are gaelic people.
Rubbish graphics