How realistic is medieval Ireland in Crusader Kings 3?

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  • Опубліковано 10 лис 2022
  • Many new players of Crusader Kings start their history with the game on the small and remote island of Ireland, which has earned the kingdom the jesting name of "noob island". In this video, we are looking at how historically accurate Paradox portrayed medieval Ireland, and which of the characters and concepts in the game reflect Ireland's historical reality.
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  • @colmmacN
    @colmmacN Рік тому +248

    I was born in Derry City in the north and got a BA in Archaeology and Greek and Roman Civilization in UCD Dublin (even took a specific class on the High Kingship of Ireland) and I feel you did a fairly good job portraying the snapshot of Ireland and the political situation there in 1066.
    I am actually a descendant of Domnall Ua Lochlainn, who is depicted in the game as being the ruler of Oriel (not accurate of course as you explained).
    Unfortunately, the start date of 1066 was a really messy time for the Kingdom of Aileach (pronounced like the name Alec by the way). So it looks like they decided to try to simplify it a bit. An Áed Ua hUalgairg was King of Aileach in 1066 but he is gone only a year later, replaced by Domnall mac Néill (the Poor) in 1067 who himself was replaced in 1068 by another Áed, Áed mac Néill who lasted until 1083 when Domnall Ua Lochlainn, my ancestor, finally became King of Aileach (after a very brief stint by a guy named Donnchad mac Néill who didn't even last a year).
    The real king of Airgíalla (Oriel is the anglicized name so not accurate at this point) in 1066 was a certain Leathlobair Ua Laidhgnen. Don't know anything about him specifically.
    So I can forgive the game developers saying screw it. lol

    • @historyinbits
      @historyinbits  Рік тому +41

      Thank you so much for your professional input and positive feedback!
      Funny coincidence, my first ever game was with Aileach and I really loved it

    • @antonironstag5085
      @antonironstag5085 Рік тому +3

      I lived on Derry for a few years. It's a great city with charming and funny people with a very complicated history! Crazy that it's the only European city to still have its old city walls

    • @LuKing2
      @LuKing2 Рік тому +2

      ​​​@@antonironstag5085 that fact about the walls can't be true knowing how many historical-looking cities are scattered across the continent. Maybe it was for the British isles only?

    • @lorenzomitidieri4850
      @lorenzomitidieri4850 Рік тому +2

      @@antonironstag5085I’m Italian and I can assure u that most of Italian cities have still their ancient walls.

    • @zombievikinggaming4258
      @zombievikinggaming4258 5 місяців тому

      ​@@historyinbitsStarting on an Insular holy site is a power move. That or Desmond because it's slightly more developed.

  • @confusedhuman5151
    @confusedhuman5151 Рік тому +434

    This is such an excellent concept! Using crusader kings, and other titles, to teach history! You nailed the execution! Do you have any idea on what you’re doing next?

    • @historyinbits
      @historyinbits  Рік тому +58

      This means a lot to us, thank you very much! And thank you for subscribing! Our next video will probably be a historical assessment of the 1990s city-builder ‘Caesar 3’.

    • @roanchis5033
      @roanchis5033 Рік тому

      ua-cam.com/users/Rosencreutzzz is a really good channel for stuff like this. It’s not the exact same as they deal with less specific history and more philosophy but they do really good videos!

    • @Zogerpogger
      @Zogerpogger Рік тому +2

      @@historyinbits It was a great video! My only quibble was that you didn't post your sources, which I think is important. I would also be interested in them.

    • @Xepent
      @Xepent Рік тому +1

      ​@@historyinbits could you please look at how the middle east is portrayed versus real life?

    • @LDW12887
      @LDW12887 Рік тому

      He hasnt in the least tho...

  • @Terror_Official
    @Terror_Official Рік тому +49

    With the Rite tenant added to Insular as well, it's now more focused on the idea that it's simply a slight deviation from Catholicism itself. They still recognize the Pope as their head of faith within the current game state, which brings certain advantages and disadvantages.

  • @twat3789
    @twat3789 Рік тому +466

    Just a heads up, the language spoken in Ireland isn’t typically called Gaelic, I think that’s more so for Scotland. Far as I’m aware it can be called gaelic, and is included in that group of languages, but typically is referred to by another name. Irelands language is called Irish in English, and Gaeilge in Irish. It’s closely related to Scottish Gaelic but it’s not the same. Your pronunciation for Irish words seemed pretty good to me overall though

    • @historyinbits
      @historyinbits  Рік тому +63

      Thank you so much for your input! Do you speak Irish?

    • @OisínMcColgan
      @OisínMcColgan Рік тому +47

      I came here to say the same thing. It's a minor nitpick but the idea that the Irish language is called Gaelic has this odd ubiquity outside of Ireland. In Ireland it's extra confusing because we have Gaelic Football, and many people simply refer to Gaelic Football as just "Gaelic". The end result is that well intentioned foreigners often end up doing the equivalent of asking us if we speak soccer
      Edit: by the way I really enjoyed the video

    • @kunatix7033
      @kunatix7033 Рік тому +3

      @@OisínMcColgan Nooo my Irish brother, don't tell me that in Ireland you guys say soccer too instead of football😔

    • @OisínMcColgan
      @OisínMcColgan Рік тому +22

      @@kunatix7033 We say football, but that just makes my earlier comment even more confusing

    • @Kpb69
      @Kpb69 Рік тому +6

      @@kunatix7033 We call it ground ball or the foreign game.

  • @mandead
    @mandead Рік тому +11

    @History in Bits
    I'm the developer of the Improved Insular mod. Check out the TIP Vol. II mod - play it with no other mods enabled. I think you'll enjoy Ireland in that; hope you decide to make a vid!

    • @historyinbits
      @historyinbits  Рік тому +2

      Very cool to hear from you! Thank you for the tip :D

  • @ManiacalInc
    @ManiacalInc Рік тому +58

    Nice to see Ireland getting some attention. I've made a number of videos on Ireland in CK3 on my channel, including one on Murchad. I'd be interested to know what sources you have that say he ruled until 1068 as all the ones I've read say that Toirdelbach ruled Munster from 1063. Paradox copied the Munster Kings list from Wikipedia and Murchad was added to that as the result of a misreading of an Irish academic text. Toirdelbach was the ruler of Munster in the 1066 start in CK1 but later games took heavily from Wikipedia, for which I think they can be criticized.
    6:56 You say you couldn't find any characters in Meath that reflected real historical figures. The guy on screen as you say that, Conchobar Ua Máelshechlainn, defeated Murchad (King of Dublin) in 1070 (which resulted in his death) and then killed his father, Diarmaid mac Máel na mBó (King of Leinster/High King) in 1072, after which Toirdelbach rose to the High Kingship. The guy who made the improved insular christianity mod also did one where Toirdelbach starts as King of Munster.
    If you haven't check out forvo (.) com, it has recordings of native speakers of various languages pronouncing words. Lots of Irish names and place names there.

  • @hardlo7146
    @hardlo7146 Рік тому +11

    If you do another breakdown like this, I highly suggest Armenia and the Caucasus as a whole, Paradox seems pretty confused when choosing rulers there. For example, in 867 they have the historical Bagrationi ruler of Tao-Klarjeti be the ruler of Kakheti for some reason, when in reality Kakheti was ruled by the independent Donauri dynasty. The guy they have ruling Tao-Klarjeti should actually be ruling in the principality of Daron/Taron, which doesn't even exist in-game!

  • @JayJay-gz4li
    @JayJay-gz4li Рік тому +44

    this man deserves so much more subs that he has, so much effort obviously put into this

    • @historyinbits
      @historyinbits  Рік тому +7

      Thank you so much for the positive feedback! Very excited about the increasing support coming in!

  • @karleder5111
    @karleder5111 Рік тому +19

    It makes so much sense to explain the historical backgrounds of the game, because you understand so much more about the roles and the context! Great! And very entertaining!

  • @josipspisic1737
    @josipspisic1737 Рік тому +17

    Really interesting idea for video and way to learn something new about history, keep it up mate 👍🏼

    • @historyinbits
      @historyinbits  Рік тому +4

      Thank you so much man! Really appreciate it :)

  • @saoirsedeltufo7436
    @saoirsedeltufo7436 Рік тому +3

    I saw someone else had corrected the Gaelic bit and your pronunciations are generally very good for a non-speaker, but my one clarification would be that Irish people just call the state Ireland, it's only Brits that call it Republic of Ireland (which is a football team, not the proper name for the country!)
    Great video, thanks!

  • @seanomaoilriain3168
    @seanomaoilriain3168 Рік тому +19

    As an Irish person, I have to compliment the pronunciation of Old and Middle Irish names and places! I haven't a clue if you used the IPA in order to accurately pronounce them but it was really well done!

  • @PelagiusPrinceps
    @PelagiusPrinceps Рік тому +3

    I'm just discovered your channel and I already know that is going to be one of my favorites! Keep doing this man is awsome!

    • @historyinbits
      @historyinbits  Рік тому

      Thank you so much, we really appreciate the positive feedback!

  • @Apollo1989V
    @Apollo1989V Рік тому +4

    Changes were made in both 1.5 and 1.6 versions that make Insular seem more like a regional branch of Catholics. 1.5 made polygamy an Irish cultural tradition rather than a tenet of Insular. 1.6 made the Pope the spiritual leader of Insular.

  • @geoDB.
    @geoDB. Рік тому +13

    With Struggle for Iberian DLC, insular shares religious head of the pope with the Catholic church with mozarab (new faith). Definitely think it is odd to have a new faith represented in the game yet no mozarabic culture in.

  • @Tenryuu19
    @Tenryuu19 Рік тому +6

    I've been playing Ireland as a majority of my games since before Holy Fury in CK2 and love the setting, hoping one day I'll be able to visit and see Eire for myself. Great video, btw.

  • @josecmch98
    @josecmch98 Рік тому +1

    This video is amazing! Hope you keep making more ck3 videos like this.

    • @historyinbits
      @historyinbits  Рік тому +1

      Really appreciate your support, there will be more CK3 content in the future! Thank you!

  • @peter3664
    @peter3664 Рік тому +2

    Brilliant work, thanks for the video and very good effort on all the pronunciations too.
    You clearly put a lot of effort into this and when I spotted your number of subscribers I was shocked, really solid start to your channel and wishing you the very best of luck in growing it

    • @historyinbits
      @historyinbits  Рік тому +2

      Thank you so much for the kind words, they are really appreciated! We hope to have you around for future videos as well :)

  • @therellla
    @therellla Рік тому

    I been seaching for this kind of content for so long. It's awelsome play ck3 knowing better the history of that place, i hope to see more ck3 videos.

  • @lisynski6040
    @lisynski6040 Рік тому +6

    This video was excellent! It was really fascinating to see all the detail put into this little corner of the map. I think I want to do some more research of my own in a similar vein, particularly with Novgorod, as that was the first region I ever played as in CK3.

    • @historyinbits
      @historyinbits  Рік тому +1

      I have to admit I never played in Novgorod, but I think I will do soon!!

    • @lisynski6040
      @lisynski6040 Рік тому

      @@historyinbits definitely should. Its good fun. Maybe not the best start, but once youre knowledgable its quite enjoyable (if you can bear a fee viking invasions)

  • @vsaga
    @vsaga Рік тому +6

    While I struggled my way through playing as the Rurikid dynasty before playing as Count Eudes of Anjou, Ireland is such a relaxing way to get into the game. I’ve been messing around with Norse invasions of the British Isles and it always ends up that Ireland just chills while we all duke it out

  • @mitsuhirato7609
    @mitsuhirato7609 Рік тому +14

    Great video! I'd love it if you would make more videos comparing CK3 to actual history. Great stuff!

  • @kevVvito
    @kevVvito Рік тому

    Very interesting video and original concept. I really like that you took the time to look for actual information and contrast it with the game, what a brilliant idea. I hope that you keep making this kind of videos.

    • @historyinbits
      @historyinbits  Рік тому

      Thank you for the positive feedback, we really appreciate it!

  • @Michael-do2xf
    @Michael-do2xf Рік тому

    Subscribed! Great content, that's what I'm here for. Looking forward to the next one!

    • @historyinbits
      @historyinbits  Рік тому

      Thank you very much for your support, glad to hear you liked it!

  • @Gimmegames4free6942
    @Gimmegames4free6942 Рік тому +2

    This was so good, itd be cool if you also did something similar for other factions too and make a series out of it. Keep up the good work

    • @historyinbits
      @historyinbits  Рік тому

      Thank you very much for the good feedback!

  • @bpanch7841
    @bpanch7841 Рік тому +2

    You're gonna be big in the future, I can already tell. GREAT content.

  • @dford145
    @dford145 Рік тому +2

    Great video!

  • @tommydoncila
    @tommydoncila Рік тому

    Amazing content!

  • @Ben-rd3mg
    @Ben-rd3mg Рік тому +1

    The second he called Irish Gaelic I realised this video would be tough to sit through

  • @DovahFett
    @DovahFett Рік тому +5

    Just an idea, but if you do decide to do more of these kinds of videos for CK3, you should also consider adding the characters you talk about to the "Interesting characters" page on the Crusader Kings 3 wiki. Lots of players check there for ideas of whom to play, and I imagine you could add quite a bit to it with your research.

  • @JohnnyNakatomi
    @JohnnyNakatomi Рік тому +1

    Great ! More History Please !

  • @MinecraftRealm713
    @MinecraftRealm713 Рік тому

    Just stumbled on this channel. really cool and I hope things go well.

  • @KamilUrbanovicz
    @KamilUrbanovicz Рік тому +4

    Would be excited to see more videos such as this relating to what we see in CK3 and its accuracy, historical background etc.

  • @JKR9488
    @JKR9488 Рік тому +1

    I enjoyed this, would love for you to look at other regions, you've earned a sub!

    • @historyinbits
      @historyinbits  Рік тому +1

      Thank you for your support! We are already working on it!

  • @JKAV_76
    @JKAV_76 11 місяців тому +1

    The subtitles when you try to pronounce things is brilliant 😂

  • @SteamAPunk
    @SteamAPunk Рік тому

    Cant believe you're under 500 subs! Great content :)

    • @historyinbits
      @historyinbits  Рік тому

      Thank you so much for your feedback! Still very new here and thankful for all the support we can get!

  • @IchBinDerTitan
    @IchBinDerTitan Рік тому +6

    Really good video, just want to say although our system was similar to feudalism, It was very different in many ways too, mainly in the structure of command as a chieftain didn’t have an heir, instead that heir would be voted upon by the entire family including everyone but the lower class, slaves and serfs. The chief also held less power than for example an English feudal lord as there was a council between the upper class of the clan called a „derbfine“ which could often overrule the decision of a chief.

    • @Cherrywick76
      @Cherrywick76 Рік тому +1

      This was done in CK2 with the tanistry succession law. I don't know if CK3 has that.

  • @Jeremietonami
    @Jeremietonami Рік тому +2

    My first game of CK3 was on Murchad. I remember conquering that island in like 10 years county by county without acknowledging the "broke a truce" debuff. Everyone hated this guy and I was like why the fuck??? My domain limit was like 12/4 and probably all of them had 0 control. Game finished with a rebellion that took the Irish throne.

  • @sellingenglandbythepound5255
    @sellingenglandbythepound5255 Рік тому +1

    Excellent stuff sir 👏

  • @fedggg5481
    @fedggg5481 Рік тому +2

    i'm not irish, but i'm Scottish and speak Scottish gaelic(Gàidhlig), a language that roots off irish(Gaeilge). As a Gàidhlig speaker i think your pronouncations were brilliant.

  • @moskverKRPT
    @moskverKRPT Рік тому +3

    You really could make a series using CK3 to explore different historical kingdoms. Great video

    • @historyinbits
      @historyinbits  Рік тому

      Thank you for the compliment, more videos are on the way :)

  • @maximegagnier8448
    @maximegagnier8448 5 місяців тому

    Seeing how well informed your videos are, I would like to know what starting date (and why) you would like to see being added to ck3 ?
    Any intriguing kingdom / potential characters you thinks would made adding another starting date relevant.
    Thanks 👍

  • @michaelcooper3803
    @michaelcooper3803 Рік тому

    i like dis especially the voice you used to read the paradox forum comment

  • @lakefires
    @lakefires Рік тому

    I subscribed in hopes of more ck3 content like this.

  • @hawx00145
    @hawx00145 Рік тому +10

    I adored my time with the Petty Kingdom of Munster which I turned into the Kingdom of Ireland...my greatest achievements was adopting to Catholicism and participating in the crusades, I basically carried the team and installed my benefactor, my brother as King of Jerusalem. Shortly after I had a somewhat unsuccessful conquest of Iberia(tried to revived the celtiberians) and eventually installed my sister as Queen of Galicia. Then my character died, meaning Jerusalem's and Galicia split of from Ireland as per inheritance laws, and my new character had a bad relationship towards his uncle and aunt. And finally, as a noob I thought I could conquer England with the help of my ally, my brother in law, the holy roman emperor, but refused to join, so I quit...tried coming back to that save after the Royal Court update released, but it's corrupted...Regardless and TLDR, there will always be a spot in my heart for Ireland in CK3, regardless of slander.

    • @historyinbits
      @historyinbits  Рік тому

      I guess you cant get around trying to conquer England in order to form an empire, otherwise the inheritance laws will just keep screwing you. Thank you for sharing :)

    • @hawx00145
      @hawx00145 Рік тому

      @@historyinbits Exactly lol🤣

  • @ZingBingDing
    @ZingBingDing Рік тому

    This brings me back to one of my first playthroughs where I started as munster and accidentally created a kingdom of dwarf geniuses

  • @sappholopod4829
    @sappholopod4829 Рік тому +4

    Very nice video! Part of my love of CK3 is because it fuels my love of medieval history, so dives into what aspects of the game are historical vs. strictly mechanical are always welcome in my book.
    RE: the subject of "Insular" Christianity in the game, it's worth noting that the devs have stated they aren't fully satisfied with current religious mechanics in CK3. There have already been some changes (perhaps most notably in the form of allowing multiple faiths to share a single spiritual head, so as to more accurately portray the Islamic world), and I wouldn't be surprised if we see a future religion-focused update that includes making the dynamic between the two Catholicisms a bit more nuanced.

  • @TaeSunWoo
    @TaeSunWoo Рік тому +2

    (Watches this while I wait for my MacBook to offload files so I can play CK3 and have my Greco-Egyptian empress of Rome annex Ireland into the Empire)

  • @Erikaaaaaaaaaaaaa
    @Erikaaaaaaaaaaaaa Рік тому +1

    This might be a stretch but is your intro the Seikilos song? The 8-bit remix throws it off a bit but it sounds just like it. Great video by the way!

    • @historyinbits
      @historyinbits  Рік тому +2

      Yes it is Seikilos! Kudos for recognising it!

  • @dom8338
    @dom8338 Рік тому +2

    as an Irish person I can say this is a really great representation of my countries history, although it might have been better to describe the differences between mainland feudalism and pre Norman Irish Brehon law because the Irish was based a lot more in pre Christiaan Celtic customs and laws and was almost democratic in a way definitely look it up it's very interesting. over all though an-maith buachaill

  • @kamilszadkowski8864
    @kamilszadkowski8864 Рік тому +1

    Great idea for a video propped up by great research, narration, and editing. Liked, subscribed, and waiting for more videos like this one. Especially from CK3.

  • @rod9829
    @rod9829 Рік тому +1

    800 hundred years! *slams table*

  • @KingJupiter
    @KingJupiter Рік тому +1

    I recently did a video on Vic3s Africa with a similar premise to yours.
    I am very impressed with this video and will probably take some inspiration of you for my future content.
    All I can, very impressive!

    • @historyinbits
      @historyinbits  Рік тому

      Very cool, I’ll check that out! Thank you for the positive feedback!

    • @KingJupiter
      @KingJupiter Рік тому

      @@historyinbits It's a shame you have so little views but I'm sure you can rise up

    • @historyinbits
      @historyinbits  Рік тому

      @@KingJupiter Hi, do you want to contact us via the e-mail address on our channel page? We tried to contact you but couldn't find an address :)

    • @KingJupiter
      @KingJupiter Рік тому

      @@historyinbits Oi sure why not

  • @LadyTylerBioRodriguez
    @LadyTylerBioRodriguez Рік тому +1

    Oh this is fantastic! I've been working on a project concerning Ireland from 1263 to 1324 and this helps a lot! The project by the way is about Dame Alice Kyteler, the Flemish Irish woman who was among the richest women in Ireland in her day, welded much influence and power, and was accused of witchcraft. Also was maybe one of histories first serial killers. Fascinating lady and knowing Ireland in the middle ages is very useful.

    • @historyinbits
      @historyinbits  Рік тому +1

      Sounds fascinating as well! What are you doing the project for, are you a history student?

    • @LadyTylerBioRodriguez
      @LadyTylerBioRodriguez Рік тому

      @@historyinbits Oh I'm a paralegal in training but I've always loved history. Its a UA-cam project because I love just putting hours of effort into it but it also works towards paralegal studies because the trial of Dame Alice Kyteler hinges on if secular middle ages law or papal canon law held more power in Ireland. The church won that fight in the end.

  • @Keefan1978
    @Keefan1978 Рік тому

    Very good video, thank You! Why not do other similar videos about other CKIII areas?

  • @spaceisspace1771
    @spaceisspace1771 Рік тому +1

    I think in recent updates having insular have the pope as head of faith helps a lot

  • @paulthompson5761
    @paulthompson5761 Рік тому +1

    I want to let you know that Paradox has modified Insular Christianity in the “Fate of Iberia” as part of the free patch. The new Rite tenant allows a faith to have the Catholic Pope as their head of faith while having different doctrines. It does give the Catholic Pope a -10 opinion of characters of faiths with Rite.
    Mozarabic Christianity which was the focus of the DLC was given a unique decision to either bind to Rome or break with Rome. I have not played as Irish since the update so I don’t know if they have a similar decision, but I hope they do.
    I would also like to see your opinion on Irish Culture as represented in the free update that accompanied the Royal Court DLC.
    As Ireland is a small part of my family history I am always curious to learn more.

  • @Podgeman3000
    @Podgeman3000 Рік тому +3

    @maniacalinc has done a lot of videos on Ireland's portrayal in Paradox games including a detailed look at Murchad which I'll link here.
    ua-cam.com/video/tX6W0H9R7yc/v-deo.html

    • @historyinbits
      @historyinbits  Рік тому +2

      Just checked it out! Very very cool stuff. Thank you for sharing!

  • @timmyturner327
    @timmyturner327 Рік тому +1

    I had multiple campaigns in Ireland in CK2. I conquered the entire island and even became Holy Roman Emperor, taking Iceland, parts of Scotland...it was a weird game. This video brought back memories.

  • @fsbayer
    @fsbayer 4 місяці тому

    I did Gaelic Studies at University (albeit focussing on Scotland rather than Ireland), and you honestly don't do a bad job of the pronunciations, doubly so for someone with no other exposure to the language. Really refreshing and a far cry from the absolute butcherings I'm used to from much of elsewhere in the CK/Paradox UA-cam scene. Obair dhiongalta, cum ort!

  • @badhoplite7299
    @badhoplite7299 Рік тому +1

    Fun Star trek connection, in one episode of DS9 O'Brian and Bashir are heading to the holodeck to reenact the Battle of Clontarf. When Bashir asks why O'Brian gets to be the High King, O'Brian claims that he is a direct descendant of Brian Boru.

    • @historyinbits
      @historyinbits  Рік тому

      Loving this!

    • @saoirsedeltufo7436
      @saoirsedeltufo7436 Рік тому

      It's nice but a bit silly - a bit like everyone of European descent is descended from Charlemagne I'd assume that almost everyone of Irish descent is descended from Boru, especially in the 24th century

    • @barryb90
      @barryb90 Рік тому

      Ironically my grandmother is an O'Brien, r descendants of Brian Boru and my name is O'Bruidair (Brodir), the name of the Viking that killed Brian Boru.

  • @danielnas7606
    @danielnas7606 Рік тому +1

    Could you make a seperate video of the history and tales, of the mod that you mentioned "tales of Ireland". It's such a cool mod, but I and probably alot others are overwhelmed by all different invasions and folktales and just get confused

  • @RealConstantinusMagnus
    @RealConstantinusMagnus Рік тому

    Do you have a list of changes I could use if I wanted to make a mod improving accuracy?

  • @nordicmist3624
    @nordicmist3624 Рік тому

    I downloaded the royal court for my console and since then it keeps crashing. Any tips on how to fix it?

  • @gilmer3718
    @gilmer3718 Рік тому

    I always liked how in one start time, you're playing the grandson, or great grandson of Brian Boru if you picked the correct county in the SW of Ireland. Oh you covered it. I thought there was one descendant you could play. Of course, I was talking about CK2 whereas you are talking about CK3.

  • @MoreNimrod
    @MoreNimrod Рік тому

    I think it would be fun and interesting if you did cover Tales of Ireland and compare that to historical evidence.

  • @bobbacon1398
    @bobbacon1398 Рік тому +2

    Honestly I can't remember what my first game of CK3 was like, I just phased that out of my mind lol

    • @historyinbits
      @historyinbits  Рік тому +1

      I guess that happens, it is hard in the beginning :D

  • @czerwonaswinia7153
    @czerwonaswinia7153 Рік тому

    First part of video hits hard. I remember my struggle with spanish Jimena's

  • @orangesilver8
    @orangesilver8 Рік тому

    Similar to Murchad, when I was looking into Welsh history I found the first prince of Wales is alive at the start of the game, but unlanded and comes to power with foreign help not long (15 years) after the game start. I would like to play as the real first prince of wales but it's not normally available.

  • @AtomicArtumas
    @AtomicArtumas Рік тому +1

    I think the funniest thing here is that CK3 finally actually made Ireland not the best place to start for a new player....
    and then immediately reversed that with it's first major DLC by making the kingdom of mann just stupidly OP.
    Sure, you either need a custom ruler or to "start" somewhere else, but most norse factions can extremely easily just pop a varangian adventure and go move to Ireland. And a lot of the smaller norse factions start in nearly the same exact situation as most of the Irish leaders, especially places like Iceland, etc.
    At launch, everyone was actually super excited for the fact that you were generally better off starting off somewhere like Italy as a vassal of the HRE, but then they just had to go and give the british isles not just the single most overpowered decision in the game, but also a second major decision that gives you a huge de jure empire that you can VERY easily jump into from the first decision.
    And now we're just straight back to "yeah, just start in ireland lul".

  • @jinxedfates
    @jinxedfates Рік тому +1

    a new favorite niche channel

    • @historyinbits
      @historyinbits  Рік тому +1

      We are flattered! If you have any input or suggestions let us know!

  • @Nick-vf8vq
    @Nick-vf8vq 4 місяці тому

    with the upcoming landless DLC coming later this year it would be a really interesting(and I assume difficult) start to paly as the guy at 3:57 and try to get the kingdom of Ireland before your death

  • @Ealdorman_of_Mercia
    @Ealdorman_of_Mercia Рік тому

    In every game, I always start off with a low ranking, nobody character, who slowly rises through the ranks through Machiavellian scheming, opportunities, battles, good relations with the lords..etc
    It's just more satisfying and relateable, instead of starting off immediately as a king or emperor.

  • @Zaire82
    @Zaire82 Рік тому

    Nice video and all, but I need to bring attention to something far more important.
    You have Edge Scrolling enabled.
    What kind of maniac subjects themselves to that annoyance?

  • @alexhunt521
    @alexhunt521 Рік тому +3

    I always start in Ireland. I love working my way up from Desmond, uniting the Irish and then taking out the norse populations. Then I slowly work my way through Wales and Cornwall. My favourite way to completely taking over Brittania 😊😊❤❤

  • @MrWertheron
    @MrWertheron Рік тому +5

    You are mocking (a bit :) ) the comments about Insular Christianity, but one of the main historical critics is valid : in the 9th century (and pre Gregorian Reform catholicism in general) lot of places in Europe would have their own flavour of catholicism and are not in the game as a Faith, and Insular Christianity is in CK3 only because it is well known in an english speaking country.

    • @historyinbits
      @historyinbits  Рік тому +1

      That’s a very good point. It would be interesting to see how complex one could explore the various branches of Catholicism and the other main faiths. But perhaps a bit frightening to new players!
      And we promise the mocking is in good faith, and just a bit of fun !

  • @MrBrianofarrell
    @MrBrianofarrell Рік тому +1

    Great video, and I do appreciate the huge effort made in the pronunciation.
    I started in Wexford, to play as Leinster since Dublin is Norse. And I have to disagree that Insular is a net negative, polygamy is a huge boon in dynastic system of Ck3.

  • @patrikrendulic3223
    @patrikrendulic3223 Рік тому +1

    Great video. Could you make a similiar one about Kingdom of Croatia?

    • @historyinbits
      @historyinbits  Рік тому +1

      I’ll look into it! What’s your favourite character there?

    • @patrikrendulic3223
      @patrikrendulic3223 Рік тому +1

      @@historyinbits well of course the king Petar Krešimir IV the Great (only Croatian king to be called great) other than that knez Domagoj.

  • @ichigojordan9096
    @ichigojordan9096 Рік тому +1

    I played in Ireland bc my family descend from mayo try to bring my family name back in ck3 is a blast

  • @bolle9810
    @bolle9810 Рік тому +4

    I'm Kinda sad I can't play as Olaf the White like in CK2, Always found it more fun to unite Ireland as him rather than Ivar the Boneless. But oh well maybe one day I will come around and do that and form a Norse-Gaels Kingdom/Empire

    • @historyinbits
      @historyinbits  Рік тому

      There must be a mod for this, right? :D

    • @bolle9810
      @bolle9810 Рік тому

      @@historyinbits There is no mod in CK3 involving Olaf the White as far as I know, you can play is his widow Aud the Deep-Minded in Iceland however

  • @gojimoji9085
    @gojimoji9085 Рік тому

    Quick question: What's the music you're using? Specifically around 3:30 with that awesome mead hall cheering vibe haha

    • @historyinbits
      @historyinbits  Рік тому

      In this video we actually just used the game's soundtrack since we thought it fit so well :D

  • @bigbadgruff9733
    @bigbadgruff9733 Рік тому +1

    Well that was weird, first actual footage of ireland (clocktower) in the clip is about 200 steps from my front door.
    I swear we are not that small of a country.

  • @danielmaher964
    @danielmaher964 Рік тому +1

    Thanks for shedding more light on the little known history of the Irish church

  • @FionanOMurchadha
    @FionanOMurchadha 6 місяців тому

    I always wondered if we unified early, Ireland didn't become a kingdom until 18 June 1542, and that Kingdom was a client state of the Kingdom of England from its inception until 1 May 1707 when the Kingdoms of England and Scotland merged to Great Britain until 1 January 1801 was when Great Britain and the Kingdom of Ireland merged to create the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Ireland.

  • @Hollow-Eyes
    @Hollow-Eyes Рік тому

    I started as a tiny county in Africa. Realm devide scared me half to death, but after the third time it happened, I finally figured out what was happening, but had no idea how to stop it. After killing serveral generations worth of siblings and vassals to keep my domain, I was finally removed from power shortly after I establised the Empire Of Guinea. What brought me down, you ask? War? Rebellion? No. I just didn't know what matrilineal marraige meant. So my son was not from my dynasty.

  • @raptorrr930
    @raptorrr930 Рік тому

    Hey there, what source did you use for this? You mentioned some article by Peter Crooks but I can't seem to find it.

    • @historyinbits
      @historyinbits  Рік тому +1

      Hi, we were referencing Mr Crooks contribution to "Medieval Ireland: An Encyclopedia" by Seán Duffy (2005)

    • @raptorrr930
      @raptorrr930 Рік тому

      @@historyinbits Thanks very much! :)

  • @pezzamanmovies
    @pezzamanmovies Рік тому

    My first playthrough in ireland lasted less then a month before the chess with death event fired and gave me a game over.

  • @conormurphy6109
    @conormurphy6109 Рік тому

    Use the voiced th sound for Meath. Like the th in father. Solid job with the rest of the pronunciation!

  • @Kronos_LordofTitans
    @Kronos_LordofTitans Рік тому

    Wasn't a feature of the struggle for Iberia patch that insular now has an odd status where they still consider the pope head of Faith?

  • @coreytrevor287
    @coreytrevor287 Рік тому +1

    It's a great island to start out on to learn how combat and wars work, and has many choices for growth. Most of the terrain being marshlands stinks for development, but if you have royal courts there are culture core values that can negate some of it. Regardless great video.

  • @aise3722
    @aise3722 Рік тому

    one of my first ck (2) gameplays was as Laughlin, i turned it into an empire spanning across all of Britain and a huge chunk of france before the sunset invasion landed on ireland itself. i was tempted to quit st that point but i pushed through. what i did was come under the wing of the aztec empire and essentially destroy it from the inside out. safe to say i pushed them back to the spanish peninsula where they remained to this day

  • @theuglypersian2470
    @theuglypersian2470 Рік тому +1

    Could you compare the Seljuks in-game and the Seljuks in real life?

  • @devincook1396
    @devincook1396 Рік тому

    my first ck match was ck2, and I played as East Anglia

  • @tyrant-den884
    @tyrant-den884 Рік тому

    Guess next time I play in Ireland I am handing my land over to Toreildelbracht, and then switching control to him, and madladding the isle in one life.

  • @weckar
    @weckar Рік тому +1

    Okay. But how historically accurate it is that, one way or the other, Ireland always becomes one with Iceland?
    One always seems to conquer the other.
    (Even though Island is just a Duchy)

  • @Ratich
    @Ratich Рік тому +1

    Ireland seems fine from what you've said. Anatolia is honestly one of the biggest historical inaccuracies in terms of culture, in the game. There's just a sea of Greek rather than it being separated into Greek which occupies mainland Greece and the coasts, Cappadocian which occupies the middle of Anatolia and is a hybrid culture, Pontic which occupies areas of the Black sea coast of Anatolia and is a hybrid culture between Greek and Persian and lastly Italiot which exists mainly in southern Italy and Sicily. It's weird that Paradox chose to split every other previously monolithic culture other than Greek.

    • @historyinbits
      @historyinbits  Рік тому

      You are right, that massive Greek culture extension is indeed odd. Thank you for sharing!

  • @Vestlandsguten
    @Vestlandsguten Рік тому +1

    I had a super-fun run with the irish. Started by consolidating the island, and declaring the high-kingdom. Then my next ruler establihed a new religion, based on the mad visions he recieved in his holy trance. And slowly the rest of the irish people saw the light, and decided to follow in the footsteps of st. eochad. The Pope, being the pope, was not amused that we had completely left the catholic fold. A huge crusade ensued, which I lost. The enitre island kingdom was usurped by french and english crusaders, and my dynasty were decimated. I ended with only one county in the hebrides, and only 6 living members of my family. I was about to rage-quit, but then I though, this is what makes ck3 fun; to roll with your losses and try even harder. So the rest of the game I spent reclaiing the island bit by bit, and not only for my own dynasty, but I did everything in my power to conquer and reinstate the old irish noble-families in their respective ancestral duchys. The satisfaction when the usurper french king was secured in my dungeon was real! (Albeit, I did end up converting to catholisism, just to ensure it would not get taken away from me again. I guess the pope won in any case) Only a small county in the hills of meath remained true to the raving visions of st. eochad who had brought this misfortune upon the land in the first place.

  • @codytheclonetrooper4002
    @codytheclonetrooper4002 Рік тому +1

    Never played in ireland in ck3. Would be a fun multiplayer challenge for everyone to be a different irish lord and try to unite ireland under ones own rule. Also idk if its just me but i think that another good ”noob” start for ck3 is as a duke in the hre since theres alot of opportunities naturally progress and become the ruler of the hre and expand your empire. Also the elections are quite fun for me to manipulate the results of in my favor

  • @BoboTMC
    @BoboTMC Рік тому

    I wonder if you can play as Toirdelbach if you grant him land and then switch to him. Could be fun.

  • @yorkieandthechihuahua
    @yorkieandthechihuahua Рік тому

    VERY interesting. Keep going with other videos about historical accuracy compared to our beloved games.

    • @historyinbits
      @historyinbits  Рік тому

      Thank you! Hope to see you around for future videos :)