I'll be honest, I might be more interested in Metazoo now than I've ever been, because people will undoubtedly dump their collection for dirt cheap now!
I briefly got into it for a few months before M.Z. closed down, because believe it or not, I have a local group who actually plays the game. Although the group is kind of dead now...sad 😢
For a long time, I thought of Rudy as the savior of the TCG industry, until I finally realized that Rudy wasn’t playing the same “game” that I was playing.
Context? Who is rudy? Edit: nevermind he explained its one of the investment bros. Is that also the guy that got stuck with like 100s of boxes of that set of Force of Will that pretty much killed the game? Lol.
I never saw Metazoo at Target, or any other store, to be honest. But I am surprised at the sheer level of incompetence and greed that Metazoo went through. They had a niche, and they ruined it.
I'm in the midwest. It was in my local targets and walmarts. But it never sold! The rows of blisters and products just sat on shelves. And I'm not even mentioning card shops! There's a local one with CASES upon CASES of unsold product.
@@randomencounter8984how did he make his money anyways? I always just assumed he was some loser who hoarded old magic and got lucky. Was it through stocks?
Never really played Metazoo, but given every card of theirs I saw, I think their main goal should have been appealing to the casual demographic. Espcially families and tabletop players. Not collectors and whoever tf is interested in skateboards in 2023.
Someone made a hour long+ video on UA-cam about it's history, the sketchy owner/steve aoki getting involved and trying to squeeze as much profits out as possible. The guy who made the video was someone heavily involved in TCGs, and working in a very big card shop. He pointed out a lot of things weren't adding up about the game, particularly how its player base wasn't all that significant; suggesting it was really just a bunch on "investers" trying to buy up early sets for future sales, and that it wasn't really as promising as people were making it out to be.
@@KripdomIII I tried looking it up. I can't find it, I think it was removed. It was so well explained too. His name is Gage, who made the video, he wasn't even trying to be negative, the premise of the video, was he got a guy come into the shop trying to see if they sold metazoo, he said they didn't and the guy got mad and was trying to give him a sales pitch of why metazoo was going to be the next big thing like pokemon. His follow up question to the guy who came in was, "is the game fun", and the guy proceeded to say he doesn't actually play the game. So he decided to look into the game and only ever found finance style content on it, and found it to be impossible to find actual game play of the game. He looked into the founder, explained all the problems he saw with the game and all the mistakes they were making (nfts) expanding too quickly, low player base, their biggest events had maybe a few thousand people, while the actual popular tcgs gets upwards of 4X as much people for medium events.
@@KripdomIII It was Nyhmnim, but the whole thing is no longer online. The whole thing was a breakdown he did on stream IIRC, which someone else uploaded on UA-cam, but the upload is now gone, and nobody seems to have made a backup.
On the subject of Organized Play Kits, doesn't it also make sense for the company to include them for free though? If a store owner doesn't want the argued deal to get the kit and just buys say 1 case of product, doesn't that hurt the company? Offer the organized play kit with any order for the store to be able to better advertise your game, create better interest, people want to try it out and so the store ends up ordering more product for future sets anyway. Isn't it a win-win rather than making a special deal for the kits that not all stores might be up for?
I had that same opinion on the fact that this was in Target and Walmart is insane that they just close down. If its LGSs, that's one thing, but think of all the negotiation/bargaining/bulk sales that had to be sold to get into big box.
You've talked about how you think there's a word association between "cryptid" and "crypto" but I always figured it was about the word "Meta" being associated with the whole web3/crypto thing
Crypto bros are fun to laugh at when they fail, however I can't say the same when they tank something that had the potential to be successful and and enjoyable with them.
It sucks because i considered buying a few of the actual decks i found for sale as a kind of game to play with kids at school (I'm a teacher). The concept felt like it would have been great for that elementary school age group@@nmr7203
The more time passes, the more I despise these investment bros in general. They ruin anything they latch themselves onto, because they never care about quality, about a community being healthy, about the impact to the world at large, they only care about value and profit. And on top of that they're insufferable. I care about the secondary market with the card games I play, but more so because I can make some money back every now and then. People like this actively ruin games for the actual players by inflating or tanking prices. Can't stand it.
Exactly. Collecting, selling and buying cards is a normal aspect of any healthy TCG, but investment bros make it infinitely harder because they strongarm casual and less affluent collectors out of the scene whenever they pop up.
I'm so late to hearing about this! I expected a crash and burn from the stuff I was seeing them pull after the kickstarter, but the details are still worse than I imagined.
The few shops that promoted this game flopped when cards were ridiculously over priced. The selling point for the game was entirely nft base. A promoter told our locals that the game is worth the investment. Now they threw it out for cheap because no one was buying and no one ever showed to play.
I live under a rock and my brother gave me one of those couple booster pack things from target or something. It looked medium bad and I have never met a person that recognized my little handful of cards. It’s wild to me to hear it was a game that was selling and people were actually playing it.
100% on point about the toxic "investment" culture. It's currently infecting One Piece and I'm genuinely afraid it will succumb to the Two Year Curse. I can't find anybody to play with IRL BUT product is always sold out. I can play Pokemon both days of the weekend at multiple stores.
This is a whole rug pull, asset flip, hype and dump, etc etc. They got everyone to buy into it then nothing happened. There was no tournament play. Every lcs sold it, but no one ever played it. Rudy absolutely manipulates the market. People will simp for him and make him money. He would say a product is dying while buying 200 pallets of that same product. I remember when Rudy sold his Alpha investment boxes or whatever. People bought it thinking they would get mtg stuff, but they got worthless metazoo.
I remember metazoo being a Kickstarter and early on it seemed really positive but it quickly fell off the radar which made me think it never actually reached the Kickstarter goals. I hadnt heard of flesh and blood until tolarian community college did a learn how to play video and it seems much more successful, probably because they just did the hard work towards making it. There isnt really a local flesh and blood scene around me but I'm in the UK so maybe it hasn't really broken its way in yet but ive seen the cards whereas metazoo wasnt even advertised here. Meatzoo was dead before it stopped sucking on its mothers teat and its probably a good thing.
Selling your product in big stores is paying them money for the shelve space which can yield you a negative profit pretty fast if you do not sell large volumes!
I find it interesting that this game did fall victim to the two year curse but not because the game itself was bad, but because of the controversy behind it. Most games die off because of their mediocrity, but Metazoo instead died off because of the poor decisions made by the creators.
I never saw metazoo anywhere except the local hobby shop Never saw a single player Never saw anyone try to buy any of it Never saw anyone show any interest in it In a saturated market of card games I'm glad to start seeing these god awful ones start dying, now if only bandai will go out of business we might actually clean up the market from all these god awful cash grabs lately
Great video Kohdok. It's very sad the trajectory this game took. I was so excited by it. I've heard newer rumors that the company is being bought out, and I'd be interested if that could save it. Excellent insight as usual. Keep up the good work 🤟
I honestly loved the idea of the game, but it suffered so much for focusing on the speculator market and crypto bros. I wanted a new card game I could play, but nobody really cared about that.
The only good thing that M.Z. had going for it, was it was fairly cheap to get into I bought $25-$30 worth of cards and made three budget decks, so that I could play with a local group, who was into the game. I never won a single game because they were all way better than I was, but hey still some fun had.
I mean... being charitable on the guy who called the failed Sanryo collab "record breaking," the metazoo product selling so well would be an example of it being the record breakingly lowest selling Sanryo collab product ever.
Biggest waste of potential I've ever seen... A shame.... general populous already losing faith in TCGs with all the Kickstarter scams and 'value crashes' etc.. I bet this doesn't help any either... Been a fun 4 years, had one of The best overall communities I have ever seen in not just the TCG space, but hobby space in general.. It definitely was a fun ride.. 🃏
While there is always a chance, Sorcery and Metazoo have two different leadership styles and 2 different goals. Sorcery is focused on 1 set a year because they are a small company. Metazoo were branding and releasing anything and everything possible. Sorcery is also being run by one of the inventors of Path of Exile who left that company to focus on his game. The scaling of his game is much smaller. There are obvious crossovers but the differences are starker. Sorcery is more of a boardgame in a way
@@MrRayRockstar It is a CCG but it's a grid based game and designed to be played Kitchen Table. It's a hybrid style game. This is the first time a game like this has tried this model to my understanding. It's basically one set a year which has its positives and negatives. It will be interesting how they balance the needs of the players and the needs of the game store. It's not endless product and there is no real competitive scene. So much fun to play though and honestly the best card opening experience i have had since Revised in 1994. Without hyperbole.
Not sure. Sorcery is AT LEAST an actual game that is fun to play as well as to look at. But it does have similar issues to current TCG markets, where "investment bros" have been buying product. scalping it. denying player buyers. calling it a "collectible". And then going surprisedPikachu.jpg when the market crashes because its those very same "casual players" that keep the market afloat and working at all. Right now, i would say the prices for the beta product have been relatively "healthy". But the playerbase is also extremely small because not enough product is being given to interested LGSs to build a local community out of. Remains to be seen if itll stick around past a year/year in a half. But the product itself that has been released is VERY HIGH QUALITY and the foils are something worth legitimately wanting to own. Its just that good.
tried to get my mitts on some metazoo decks for my card nights with the crew but oddly prices are all over the place.. I know I can/will catch a bunch low no issue but shocked some stuff is higher priced then one would assume.
The ability icons were annoying & this game had the single worst combat phase I ever experienced. The concept of targeted attacks on specific creatures seems straight forward but allowing defending players to assign blocks on said creature turns an attack into a slog. Not even mentioning the damage modifiers & the tedium of tracking permanent base 5 damage units (unlike the base 10 of pokemon) on BOTH creatures as well as out of a life total of 1K.
Honestly, good riddance. As harsh as it sounds. The type of audience that the game started to attract after it got big seriously needs to keep away from hobbies. Not just due to the fact they make collecting either casually or for play unbearable, but because of their rather rancid vibes and opinions .
Kohdak. Im really sad. I messaged you 6 months ago. I was wondering if you thought it would have been a good idea to sell my psa mothman. Sadly its too late
Because some opinions are worth more to.others than some. Not sure why you would need to ask this? It's like if I asked you why are you considering another oncologist's opinion? @@nmr7203
FaB will see the exact same fate as MetaZoo. For the exact same reasons. They did and are doing what they were designed to do. Make money. Once the money is over, the game is over.
I'm not so sure, it's coming up on what 4 years, it's sales consistently place it right below the big 3 for TCGs, and it has multiple weekly play groups from what I can see. It's got a good game at core level and I think it's here to stay. It might not last 20 years, but it's at 4 years at least so it's not fallen victim to the 2 year curse.
Not true at all. FAB has a healthy player base. My LGS has 10 to 12 each week. LSS did exactly what they needed to do the get the investors and people like Rudy out of their game. FAB should easily make it 10+ years
@OpinionatedFanboy they literally made a Rudy card... how is that getting him out of your game? FaB was a COVID cash grab. Just because 10 people near you like to play it does not equate to a healthy game. 8 people show up weekly to play Force of Will at my LGS, so I am to assume it's nice and healthy?? No.
@Maddecent30 , umm thousands of players attend their calling events. The game pretty much told Rudy to fuck off to support LGS that carry their game and run organized play. They used to be in bed with Rudy and that's why the promos exist but they realized that was bad for the game and cut him off.
I'll be honest, I might be more interested in Metazoo now than I've ever been, because people will undoubtedly dump their collection for dirt cheap now!
Yeah, now I'm interested in Hello Kitty, some of those cards look cute lol.
Oh man same, never even considered getting into metazoo until now. I’ve dropped at least 3k over the past few days buying up cheap boosters
I briefly got into it for a few months before M.Z. closed down, because believe it or not, I have a local group who actually plays the game.
Although the group is kind of dead now...sad 😢
For a long time, I thought of Rudy as the savior of the TCG industry, until I finally realized that Rudy wasn’t playing the same “game” that I was playing.
He was already getting sketchy even before getting involved with these products.
It took me 30 Seconds to know that Rudy was bad for the hobby.
@@39Lords you definitely have a sharper mind than mine
Context? Who is rudy?
Edit: nevermind he explained its one of the investment bros. Is that also the guy that got stuck with like 100s of boxes of that set of Force of Will that pretty much killed the game? Lol.
@@jonathan-6958 He runs the UA-cam Channel Alpha Investments.
I never saw Metazoo at Target, or any other store, to be honest.
But I am surprised at the sheer level of incompetence and greed that Metazoo went through. They had a niche, and they ruined it.
I've seen it at target locally, so it might be regional?
I'm in the midwest. It was in my local targets and walmarts. But it never sold! The rows of blisters and products just sat on shelves.
And I'm not even mentioning card shops! There's a local one with CASES upon CASES of unsold product.
@@TheoJay615Target only on Illinois and Iowa. Not sold at Walmart. Sold decent at Target up to UFO.
I, too, saw it at Target once. I think they were in those Fairfield Company packs as well. Can't remember where, though.
If Rudy tried to do to the stock market what he does to card games, he'd probably be in jail right now.
He was a stock broker... And you could exchange his MtG speech just to any popular ticker and he would sound like 99% of the finance youtube.
It’s called pump and dump whether it’s stocks, crypto, or even physical product as in this case.
@@randomencounter8984how did he make his money anyways? I always just assumed he was some loser who hoarded old magic and got lucky. Was it through stocks?
Rudy: "I never told anyone to invest in Metazoo. If you invested, that was your fault. Don't blame me bro"
Watching this game unravel has been immensely satisfying. It was an NFT rug pull all along.
Never really played Metazoo, but given every card of theirs I saw, I think their main goal should have been appealing to the casual demographic. Espcially families and tabletop players. Not collectors and whoever tf is interested in skateboards in 2023.
Sin #8, NEVER get involved with NFTs.
Someone made a hour long+ video on UA-cam about it's history, the sketchy owner/steve aoki getting involved and trying to squeeze as much profits out as possible. The guy who made the video was someone heavily involved in TCGs, and working in a very big card shop. He pointed out a lot of things weren't adding up about the game, particularly how its player base wasn't all that significant; suggesting it was really just a bunch on "investers" trying to buy up early sets for future sales, and that it wasn't really as promising as people were making it out to be.
What’s the name of the video/channel?
@@KripdomIII I tried looking it up. I can't find it, I think it was removed. It was so well explained too. His name is Gage, who made the video, he wasn't even trying to be negative, the premise of the video, was he got a guy come into the shop trying to see if they sold metazoo, he said they didn't and the guy got mad and was trying to give him a sales pitch of why metazoo was going to be the next big thing like pokemon. His follow up question to the guy who came in was, "is the game fun", and the guy proceeded to say he doesn't actually play the game. So he decided to look into the game and only ever found finance style content on it, and found it to be impossible to find actual game play of the game. He looked into the founder, explained all the problems he saw with the game and all the mistakes they were making (nfts) expanding too quickly, low player base, their biggest events had maybe a few thousand people, while the actual popular tcgs gets upwards of 4X as much people for medium events.
@@KripdomIII It was Nyhmnim, but the whole thing is no longer online. The whole thing was a breakdown he did on stream IIRC, which someone else uploaded on UA-cam, but the upload is now gone, and nobody seems to have made a backup.
Leaning into NFTs and crypto killed any chance at acquiring new players.
@@JamesNintendoTurdTHE AGE OF GAGE LETS GOOOOOOO
On the subject of Organized Play Kits, doesn't it also make sense for the company to include them for free though?
If a store owner doesn't want the argued deal to get the kit and just buys say 1 case of product, doesn't that hurt the company? Offer the organized play kit with any order for the store to be able to better advertise your game, create better interest, people want to try it out and so the store ends up ordering more product for future sets anyway. Isn't it a win-win rather than making a special deal for the kits that not all stores might be up for?
I had that same opinion on the fact that this was in Target and Walmart is insane that they just close down. If its LGSs, that's one thing, but think of all the negotiation/bargaining/bulk sales that had to be sold to get into big box.
MTG didn’t get into big box stores until like well after Pokemon and YGO.
You've talked about how you think there's a word association between "cryptid" and "crypto" but I always figured it was about the word "Meta" being associated with the whole web3/crypto thing
Metazoo was a pump and dump for a ton of people from the get go and I've been predicting its fall this whole time
At the time of you posting that "friendship ended" video, I'm fairly certain that prozd section was the most viewed piece of metazoo gameplay🤣
Crypto bros are fun to laugh at when they fail, however I can't say the same when they tank something that had the potential to be successful and and enjoyable with them.
Ding Dong the Witch is Dead!
play our song
I saw metazoo product on the shelf at target literally yesterday, that's wild
The irony of a game called *META* Zoo getting into NFTs and crypto bs.
Wasn't aware of any related crypto stupidity. Boneheaded move, if true!
No one really cared by that point, Metazoo was comsidered a joke way before that.
It sucks because i considered buying a few of the actual decks i found for sale as a kind of game to play with kids at school (I'm a teacher). The concept felt like it would have been great for that elementary school age group@@nmr7203
The more time passes, the more I despise these investment bros in general. They ruin anything they latch themselves onto, because they never care about quality, about a community being healthy, about the impact to the world at large, they only care about value and profit. And on top of that they're insufferable. I care about the secondary market with the card games I play, but more so because I can make some money back every now and then. People like this actively ruin games for the actual players by inflating or tanking prices. Can't stand it.
Exactly. Collecting, selling and buying cards is a normal aspect of any healthy TCG, but investment bros make it infinitely harder because they strongarm casual and less affluent collectors out of the scene whenever they pop up.
Yes look at the Frisker Ocean
Now calm down Timmy…
I'm so late to hearing about this! I expected a crash and burn from the stuff I was seeing them pull after the kickstarter, but the details are still worse than I imagined.
The few shops that promoted this game flopped when cards were ridiculously over priced. The selling point for the game was entirely nft base. A promoter told our locals that the game is worth the investment. Now they threw it out for cheap because no one was buying and no one ever showed to play.
I live under a rock and my brother gave me one of those couple booster pack things from target or something. It looked medium bad and I have never met a person that recognized my little handful of cards. It’s wild to me to hear it was a game that was selling and people were actually playing it.
Just saw a metazoo pack at my target yesterday and thought it sounded familiar.
100% on point about the toxic "investment" culture. It's currently infecting One Piece and I'm genuinely afraid it will succumb to the Two Year Curse. I can't find anybody to play with IRL BUT product is always sold out. I can play Pokemon both days of the weekend at multiple stores.
As of April 13th 2024, I still see metazoo at target. Weird its still being sold but I guess they just want to get rid of it now?
This is a whole rug pull, asset flip, hype and dump, etc etc. They got everyone to buy into it then nothing happened. There was no tournament play. Every lcs sold it, but no one ever played it.
Rudy absolutely manipulates the market. People will simp for him and make him money. He would say a product is dying while buying 200 pallets of that same product. I remember when Rudy sold his Alpha investment boxes or whatever. People bought it thinking they would get mtg stuff, but they got worthless metazoo.
I remember metazoo being a Kickstarter and early on it seemed really positive but it quickly fell off the radar which made me think it never actually reached the Kickstarter goals. I hadnt heard of flesh and blood until tolarian community college did a learn how to play video and it seems much more successful, probably because they just did the hard work towards making it. There isnt really a local flesh and blood scene around me but I'm in the UK so maybe it hasn't really broken its way in yet but ive seen the cards whereas metazoo wasnt even advertised here. Meatzoo was dead before it stopped sucking on its mothers teat and its probably a good thing.
lololololol we got scammed. We paid for the president's Lambo...
Frisker Ocean owner
Selling your product in big stores is paying them money for the shelve space which can yield you a negative profit pretty fast if you do not sell large volumes!
I find it interesting that this game did fall victim to the two year curse but not because the game itself was bad, but because of the controversy behind it. Most games die off because of their mediocrity, but Metazoo instead died off because of the poor decisions made by the creators.
I never saw metazoo anywhere except the local hobby shop
Never saw a single player
Never saw anyone try to buy any of it
Never saw anyone show any interest in it
In a saturated market of card games I'm glad to start seeing these god awful ones start dying, now if only bandai will go out of business we might actually clean up the market from all these god awful cash grabs lately
CARD GAMES FROM THE ABYSS! :u
Great video Kohdok. It's very sad the trajectory this game took. I was so excited by it.
I've heard newer rumors that the company is being bought out, and I'd be interested if that could save it.
Excellent insight as usual. Keep up the good work 🤟
it's just physical NFT rugpull lmao.
I honestly loved the idea of the game, but it suffered so much for focusing on the speculator market and crypto bros. I wanted a new card game I could play, but nobody really cared about that.
The only good thing that M.Z. had going for it, was it was fairly cheap to get into
I bought $25-$30 worth of cards and made three budget decks, so that I could play with a local group, who was into the game.
I never won a single game because they were all way better than I was, but hey still some fun had.
I mean... being charitable on the guy who called the failed Sanryo collab "record breaking," the metazoo product selling so well would be an example of it being the record breakingly lowest selling Sanryo collab product ever.
Never saw the game in my 2 local LGS where I live (Spain). Would've bought a few packs if I could
Great insight again kodok its really sad to see
All we can do is learn
Biggest waste of potential I've ever seen... A shame....
general populous already losing faith in TCGs with all the Kickstarter scams and 'value crashes' etc.. I bet this doesn't help any either...
Been a fun 4 years, had one of The best overall communities I have ever seen in not just the TCG space, but hobby space in general.. It definitely was a fun ride..
🃏
Is Sorcery next?
While there is always a chance, Sorcery and Metazoo have two different leadership styles and 2 different goals. Sorcery is focused on 1 set a year because they are a small company. Metazoo were branding and releasing anything and everything possible. Sorcery is also being run by one of the inventors of Path of Exile who left that company to focus on his game. The scaling of his game is much smaller. There are obvious crossovers but the differences are starker. Sorcery is more of a boardgame in a way
@@themagictraindriver thanks for the insight. One more question. Is Sorcery then not a ccg? (real question)
@@MrRayRockstar It is a CCG but it's a grid based game and designed to be played Kitchen Table. It's a hybrid style game. This is the first time a game like this has tried this model to my understanding. It's basically one set a year which has its positives and negatives. It will be interesting how they balance the needs of the players and the needs of the game store. It's not endless product and there is no real competitive scene. So much fun to play though and honestly the best card opening experience i have had since Revised in 1994. Without hyperbole.
Not sure. Sorcery is AT LEAST an actual game that is fun to play as well as to look at. But it does have similar issues to current TCG markets, where "investment bros" have been buying product. scalping it. denying player buyers. calling it a "collectible". And then going surprisedPikachu.jpg when the market crashes because its those very same "casual players" that keep the market afloat and working at all. Right now, i would say the prices for the beta product have been relatively "healthy". But the playerbase is also extremely small because not enough product is being given to interested LGSs to build a local community out of. Remains to be seen if itll stick around past a year/year in a half. But the product itself that has been released is VERY HIGH QUALITY and the foils are something worth legitimately wanting to own. Its just that good.
No..but Frisker is 😂
tried to get my mitts on some metazoo decks for my card nights with the crew but oddly prices are all over the place.. I know I can/will catch a bunch low no issue but shocked some stuff is higher priced then one would assume.
Why don't the posters just come laminated then?
much harder to ship. Usually things are sent in a small-ish box. If you have ever bought a nice playmat you know how much space it saves
The ability icons were annoying & this game had the single worst combat phase I ever experienced. The concept of targeted attacks on specific creatures seems straight forward but allowing defending players to assign blocks on said creature turns an attack into a slog. Not even mentioning the damage modifiers & the tedium of tracking permanent base 5 damage units (unlike the base 10 of pokemon) on BOTH creatures as well as out of a life total of 1K.
for all the people that sell it, I've never met anyone that bought or played it.
So are all the Alpha Investment timmys still going to listen to his bad advice that only serves to fill his pockets?
Yes
Honestly, good riddance. As harsh as it sounds.
The type of audience that the game started to attract after it got big seriously needs to keep away from hobbies. Not just due to the fact they make collecting either casually or for play unbearable, but because of their rather rancid vibes and opinions .
Tf you mean kohdok has a second channel
Kohdak. Im really sad. I messaged you 6 months ago. I was wondering if you thought it would have been a good idea to sell my psa mothman. Sadly its too late
Why did you need his opinion specifically
Because he is great. I dont know. Kohdak is a great youtuber. @@nmr7203
@@nmr7203WWTFIMD?
(What would the funny internet man do?)
It doesn't look like he messages back.
Because some opinions are worth more to.others than some. Not sure why you would need to ask this? It's like if I asked you why are you considering another oncologist's opinion? @@nmr7203
To be honest i think most metazoo fans dont play the game so that socks
This is why you never take UA-camrs advice
Now metazoo most the rest of its artists
Very based take and video. I hadn't thought about the crypto angle at all for Zoo's demise. I was hung up on no one plays the game.
You know what game isn’t dead? ONE PIECE BABYYY
But didn't you hear? They're reprinting sets that weren't able to meet player demand. This is bad for some reason.
@@geek593 bad for dude bro investors great for players
@@andreelmatacoronavirusquin1322 May they rest in piss.
I cant wait for the anime!
FaB will see the exact same fate as MetaZoo. For the exact same reasons. They did and are doing what they were designed to do. Make money. Once the money is over, the game is over.
I'm not so sure, it's coming up on what 4 years, it's sales consistently place it right below the big 3 for TCGs, and it has multiple weekly play groups from what I can see. It's got a good game at core level and I think it's here to stay. It might not last 20 years, but it's at 4 years at least so it's not fallen victim to the 2 year curse.
A few years ago I would have agreed but FAB turned it around and concentrated on players and play. That really turned them around.
Not true at all. FAB has a healthy player base. My LGS has 10 to 12 each week. LSS did exactly what they needed to do the get the investors and people like Rudy out of their game. FAB should easily make it 10+ years
@OpinionatedFanboy they literally made a Rudy card... how is that getting him out of your game? FaB was a COVID cash grab. Just because 10 people near you like to play it does not equate to a healthy game. 8 people show up weekly to play Force of Will at my LGS, so I am to assume it's nice and healthy?? No.
@Maddecent30 , umm thousands of players attend their calling events. The game pretty much told Rudy to fuck off to support LGS that carry their game and run organized play.
They used to be in bed with Rudy and that's why the promos exist but they realized that was bad for the game and cut him off.
metazoo was never worth it anyway there are better games out there
MetaZoo tried to behave like WotC. The only thing missing were armed thugs.
😂😂😂😂
It wasn't quirky lol it was bad. Stop coping. The game was shit.
DcHRO Next!
Digimons going to go as well 😢
@@PokeLaneYTHow so??