Ford 1.8 TDCi FAI Timing Chain Conversion Install
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- Опубліковано 26 жов 2017
- With the wet belt to timing chain conversion kit supplied by Lymm Engine Components I have finally finished the process of getting it installed.
Lymm Engine Components are one of my go to suppliers and they specialise in engine parts. Always great personal service from the team as well as worldwide delivery.
This is a big job and the video should give you an idea if you've got the tools and ability to take it on. This is not designed as a DIY video so use any information included at your own risk.
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Recently we've seen two of these belts let go in customer's cars. Now every one that comes in for whatever work has a recommendation to replace or upgrade. What a stupid idea, literally designed to fail.
Terrible design that just doesn't last. Has to be a hard sell to customers, it's not going to be a cheap job
Ford 1.6d from 1986. Better. Timing gears and a little belt.
is it possible to remove the wet-belt tension pin/bolt earlier in the process to check whether there is already a chain installed? i've heard that the belt only came in from some point in 2008 (ive got a early 2008).
Absolutely. Pull the tensioner then you'll know what you have
Badgertronix can I do this without effecting the timing? Just pull it out and look? Thanks
It's always nice to hear the engine start after major surgery, well done mate.
Thanks. It was a big relief it all went to plan and worked 😃
@@Badgertronix можно ли провернуть не снимая корпус Масленного насоса ТНВД на один зуб коленвал ведь без шпонки просто мы русские очень ленивые 😇
That's a big job. Some would say beyond the skill set of a DIY'er but your a smart man. You had the space, parts, tools and know edge to get this job done. Hopefully that new kit will be worth the investment and you'll never have to do this job again. I have to admit, I did skip a head a little but if I had this engine I would certainly have paid attention to the details. Leon and Rob are two great guys. I love this community because of people like them and you. Getting that kit was a big help too. Great video Jonathon.
+wyattoneable I don't blame you for skipping ahead, it was a big job and a big video! I'm sure the video will be helpful to those who need it, apart from Alan's videos there's not much information about it. We have a fantastic community and the support and encouragement that comes with it
Excellent! Between your "on the job" video and Alan's 'scrap engine' video, I've just done this on my latest car.
I lost my last 1,8 tdci Focus due to catastrophic engine failure.
Hahahahaha! I did EXACTLY the same with the crank seal tool, right into the bucket with the coolant and oil in it!
Awesome. Glad the video helped
I will be doing this job myself on the drive way soon, done a couple of golfs before but this video is a great help.cheers.
Regards from Romania,
My name is Justin and I have a Ford Focus mk2.5 1.8tdci from 2008 (KKDA / KKDB engine). I watched a lot of your videos and I really appreciate them.
A few months ago, just before the distribution changed, the wet belt broke and I destroyed the engine, so I bought a "new" (used) one about 93,000 miles from the UK (KKDA engine). This engine ran excellently on the donor car. From this engine I took the actual engine with the injection pump, without turbo and EGR. Of course I changed the whole distribution on this engine, which was on the chain with a new distribution (F.A.I. chain conversion kitt) and one the Contitech belt kitt. Preventively I changed the cylinder head gasket, although the old one was impeccable. I also rebuilt the injectors. When it is cold, especially in the morning, the engine has a slightly irregular run, emits smoke and has a hesitant ride. As soon as the engine reaches 40 degrees Celsius, it spins very nicely and has an ok run.
Now comes my question: is it possible that the injection has a little advance, that is, to inject a little too much diesel? Is it possible to adjust from the screws that are on the injection pump hub?
Thanks in advance
I'm not a mechanic he said. Nice and easy he said. I can't show you too much he said. Fair bit of work there he said.The video of understatements !! Huge job Badger and achieved with your usual no nonsense approach mate.
I had to leave the nonsense on the cutting room floor! The video was long enough as it was. Thank you for watching and thank you for the kind words.
WOW this video is brilliant. I was going to pay a garage to do the work as it was too much for me to do. Bad news a few days before my clutch went. My aircon had also packed up a few weeks before, so I decided to scrap the car and buy something else. Now I can see why the garage wanted so much money!
That sucks but thanks for watching. Yeah it's quite a job!
I've got a UK 2008 Transit Connect van booked in for timing belt replacement this week. Ford main dealer says it has a chain but we'll be having the tensioner bolt out to double check. You've created a great video here. Sense quite an affinity because I've owned and maintained several VW Passat 5-cyl and really enjoyed your Audi 90 rebuild.
How can you check, without taking the cover off? I need to know for my MK4 2007 Mondeo
@@GlossaME There's a tensioner bolt that you can take out. It will either have a flat end or a slight dome. I can't remember exactly which one is wet belt or chain but a but of Google will let you know. The wet belt came in at October 2007 officially but Ford were fitting stock engines so it's worth checking. My 2008 reg is a chain.
@@tiguanman1170 I'll take that to my mechanic. Mine is registered in 09.2007 Mondeo MK4. Where's the location of this set tensioner? I am really thankful that you replied.
Brilliant video Jon you have done a great job well deserve your beer i also love the new special tool cricket bat lol and i`m glad you thanked Leon for the tips amd Rob for the donation keep them rolling
+Paul Mayou cheers Paul. This video was a long time coming and hopefully helps some people out. I had a lot of great support from Leon, Rob, Simon at Lymm and everyone else. That cricket bat has been used to fix more cars than I have used it to play cricket
Thank you very much for this excellent video. I send my regards from Buenos Aires!
Great job Badger!! Thanks for the shout out :)
+One Auto, cheers Rob!
Good job pal,perfectly explained,best of luck
Quite the job there sir , hope it works out well for you!
+New Level Auto it was a beast but ultimately satisfying. Thanks for watching, I'm glad it's over!
Nicely done buddy , the nuns cricket bat seal remover was a nice touch. No parts left over is always good. Goterdone
+STEVE ROB haha I thought you'd appreciate that special tool. Goterdone now letshavesomefun
Watched this on ROKU in the shop this morning and now for a comment...... Holy Crap!! Big job indeed. 😱
+txsviking that's why they pay me the big bucks.... oh wait they don't pay me at all 🤣 Hopefully I don't ever have to do it again. Cheers
A bit of an involved process! nice job Badger.
+The Disgruntled Mechanic it was a big job but feel much happier now that belt is out of there. Cheers!
good job friend. congratulations from Valencia. Spain
Good job respekt!! From an old Ford mechanic in DK
+Gert Aabo thank you my friend and thanks for watching!
Nice. I watched Alan's video on this and I've spoke to a forklift mechanic i know who did this on his Transit connect. Watching your experience doing the job has been very helpful.
That wet belt is awful, like you said. Yours is best case scenario. There are now 3 people i know who want this correcting on their own vehicles. I'm surprised how much access there was to do it with the engine in situ.
Rob and Leon. Top blokes. 👍
+zoidberg444 there's been a lot of talk online about the problem but before Alan's video no real idea of how to fix it.
For as much of a pain in the bum this job was to do and film hopefully it proves useful. These are great cars but they're getting older and into the aftermarket or home mechanic where information isn't always that easy to find.
Cheers!
I'd heard rumblings. At first i almost didn't believe that they had used a belt. Then i heard Ford were pushing "belt in oil technology" on their new ecoboost engines like that small turbo unit in the new Fiesta. Most other Ford diesels which i had seen had died from something else before being bitten by this problem. Although by the looks of your belt there isn't much time left to deal with it.
Certainly i think there is more hope for these 1.8 units going forward. Ford don't put them in the Focus or Mondeo any more. Mondeo is 1.6 or 2.0 only. The new Focus's have gone from 1.6HDI with the odd 2.0 to mainly this new 1.5 Tiger unit. Apparently they make that in the UK. I know the guy who's in charge of the tooling contract for the factory where they produce them. I've driven newer 65 and 17 plate Focus's with that engine. It seems like it has more torque than the 1.6. God only knows what problems they will start having in a few years though.
+zoidberg444 I much prefer the 1.8 to the 2.0 with all the emissions junk. I think I would be scared to get a more modern diesel, just too complicated. Modern petrol cars have closed the gap economy wise
Great video and very useful for DIY. Thank you.
Thanks for watching
excellent video and job done
Great job. So good explained. Danke schön, help me a lot!
Prerty involved job. Nicely done.
+T.O.A.G cheers! It took a while but I got there
Good job and qualty tools.
Thanks mate thats a big help. I'll let you know how I get on .
Hi I have brought the same kit and wanted to know how tight do you tighten the 4 iron head bolts up on the conversion kit? Your overview video on the kit shows a little movement.
great video, just a question are any o rings on timing casing i assemble everything back and i left with 2 O-rings that i don`t remember where it goes
got to do this monday, looks like a pita.
Super film fajnie pokazane 😄
Muchas gracias por la información
Спасибо!!!👍 Отличная работа!!! 🤗 Удачи во всём!!!
I know what I will be watching after work tonight!
Did the Badger borrow your glasses.
MostlymoparIH Not that I am aware of... I have not yet watched the video. Will do so after work... in about 12 hours.
+Thomas EXOVCDS there wouldn't have been enough room to get your glasses in there!
That's what she keeps telling me!
Now now Thomas, Charlie may be watching.
Congratulations for this great tutorial so well done, would you be so kind to tell me how many kilometers is it necessary to change the timing belt in the ford focus 1.8 tdci 115 year 2007? Thank you in advance.
Well done mate, top job.
I don't know if it's been mentioned before but don't use a ratchet to crack tight nuts, bolts, please use a knuckle bar.
Best wishes :)
Great video and good job !!
+N Smith thank you!
Well done,i am half way through .
Good luck 😀🍀 It's a big job!
@@Badgertronix parts arrived today,I'm putting chain on next but it came in separates..was there any timing Mark's on the pump pulley or lining pin ? I know on the belt theres a line and mark ..cheers
Great video but I'm stuck with the engine mount bracket I can only see 3 bolts where is the 4th bolt also the bolts holding the water pump pulley how do you hold the pulley to slackened the bolts
Must say ..ford owners club forum - no thanks given on the thread for your efforts - great bunch ! its hard enough work videoing and doing the work..and for the first time
Thanks for this excellent video
BTW - did you do a video on checking the valve clearances
Just had one in apparently diagnosed with a bad ECU... Which might well be... but to start with... the belt or chain is snapped!
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I don't really tackle this sort of repairs... but was nice to watch your video!
Great work there!
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Thanks! An ECU would be an easier fix. They seem to snap camshafts when the belt breaks
@@Badgertronix
Possibly... haven't got that far..
How did you work out the position of the spacer hub in reference to the sprocket with the play it has in it?
Thank you.
dang good job bud started nice
+DriveShaft Drew thanks Drew, the startup was a big relief!
Tell me please. With what force it is necessary to tighten the crankshaft bolt ?
Great video mate. I am just doing mine, my crank pulley has separation anxiety. So it's being soaked with oil over night. How many hours altogether did it take you?
Fantastic job Sir! Changed the water pump and top timing belt on my brothers 2007 mk2 focus tdci. When I pulled out the tensioner bolt and found it was black in colour and its end was domed I breathed a massive sigh of relief as I knew we had a chain and not a wet belt. However, just taking the water pump off requires most of this dismantling procedure. Took us two hours of grunt sweat and swearing to get the lower half of the engine mounting off due to the chassis leg preventing removal of the bolts. (We ain't mechanics either). Honestly for the time it took we might as well have hoisted the engine out! There is still a fair bit to do but access is not so much a problem once you get this far. In my humble opinion, if you need to change the water pump you might as well go the whole hog - if you have a wet belt.
It's a fair bit of work in such a cramped engine bay. Definitely easier to pull the engine I think.
Hello good, I have the same engine, but it is supposed to have a lower chain.
Can it be detected if it has a chain or belt by difference in noise in the motor? Does it sound different depending on whether you have an oil-bathed chain or belt? Thanks. Because otherwise how could you know without having to drop the entire distribution?
All the best
Great work mate.
I also tend to do as much work as possible, myself on my cars and I would probably tackle this job myself with more confidence after watching your video but due to lack a of having a garage/place to work on it I am having to take it to a local garage for them to do the job. Just need to find one with a good rep.
Thanks again for all your efforts and taking the time to share your experiences as they really do help out other guys like us who enjoy the rewards of doing the work ourselves, saving a few bob and also (by doing it ourselves) having the peice of mind that the job is done and done right ;-)
You deserve that beer mate! :-)
Cheers
+Neelfy01 thanks mate
I know what you mean. Jobs like this I have to have them worked out in my head before I feel confident enough to tackle them.
Thanks for watching and even if you're getting a garage to do the job, it gives you an idea of what they're charging you for.
My local Ford dealer didn't believe me these cars had a wet belt that needed changing so finding a good garage can prove tricky.
Cheers and thanks for watching!
You have to change H pressure pump timing pulley from engine with time chain or you just re use from engine with wet belt?
Thank's for the vidéo
Hi, thanks for the video. Iv been looking at as much information I could find on this job, as I'm doing it tomorrow. Alan's stuff is great, as you said, but yours showed me exactly what I'm in for, as I'll be doing it in the driveway with engine in. Just one question, if you don't mind. So after breaking the bolt in the wet belt cover, how tight did you tighten them. I can certainly do without it happening!!
Thanks again.
Hey Dude like to say sorry cause for a Diy man well done ,,,watched the whole video ,,congrads well worth that beer,
If I just wanna change the crank seal do I need timing tools? It seems to me it doesnt ...am I right?
Hi sir good job I have ford cmax 2008 model I'm running on the road my engine stop the garage said got cut my belt motor too and he can't fix it thanks you have advice for me sir
Just watched your video ive just brought a ford c max 1.8 tdci 115ps 09 plate is this the same engine as mine then it's got 132000 on clock and no signs of receipts or anything being done to it thanks.
I have the same oil leaks ,where do they come from? So I know what to change...Thanks
Hello mate, any chance of the genuine part numbers for this conversion? Many thanks
Prfect it's a good job, will I have a car ford focus ghia + 192000 kilometres if I change this chain or no
Excellent video. Can you please tell me if I can remove the bottom tensioner without effecting the timing? I need to know if my engine is belt or chain. Thanks
Yes, that seems to be the accepted method
Congratulations!!! Do you know if the ford Focus 2012 tdci already comes with a chain or with the strap in an oil bath?
Thank you very much in advance!
Thank you. A 2012 should be the wet belt. Cheers
Perfect, I am doing this tomorrow.
Loved Alans Video but it is nice to see with the engine in the car.
+darkwaterblue great timing. It's a different experience with the engine in the car! It's time consuming and fiddly but not too difficult if you're organised.
Yes just getting to the tensioner and timing pin is going to be a fair bit of work! Fingers crossed and all that.
+darkwaterblue did you get this all done ok?
+darkwaterblue thanks for the detailed reply!
It's a workout just getting to start the timing belt side of it. Interesting you had the same bolt snapping issue, that sounds exactly how mine went.
My upper seal was still good thankfully but definitely something to keep an eye on.
Sounds like just in time maintenance for you! Glad you're almost sorted.
Cheers!
Badgertronix she lives! Possibly the worst way to spend 3 days I can possibly think of. Thanks again for the videos, cheers.
A well deserved beer
Another great video, is there a replacement interval for the oil submerged belt that Ford recommend.
Ford seem to have gone backwards because the earlier 1.8D had 2 dry belts that was replaced at the same time.
+Kevin Haynes thank you Kevin. The replacement interval for both the wet belt or the chain is 10 years or 125,000 miles. I wouldn't worry about ever changing the chain but you see what my belt looked like after 9 years and 100,000 miles.
Thanks for watching!
Despite what Ford said officially via there service intervals, the heavy duty dual chain setup just does not fail. My local independent Ford specialist has been around for more than 15 years and whilst they've done a few rebuilds on 1.8 TDCi's that had the lower wet belt snap, they've NEVER had to replace the lower chain setup.
Good job
Thanks
How to definitely know if it's a chain or wet belt? I own a 09.2007 Mondeo MK4 125 PS. Please!
Sea now if this were 5 or 6 vids I would be commenting on each one but since your director had ya jam em all together I will be making comments throughout the process.
+MostlymoparIH I welcome those comments, likes, shares and subscriptions
brilliant ....... cheers
+Kel Tay thanks for watching!
All kidding aside that was a great video. Great shots except for the times that your hands or Thomas's glassed got in the way. Thumbs up Pal.
+MostlymoparIH thank you my friend. It was a tough one to film, no access for my camera, my fingers or anything else. Cheers!
merci boko
glad my march 2007 focus 2006 engine mk2 1.8tdci is CHAIN wet belt approx may 2007 mk2.5 focus on 143.000 recent cam belt change + water pump + aux belt tenstioner . HEARD wet belts can brake 80.000 less scary
Thank you A+
+Nick Kirk thanks for watching!
Another great video, I did this job a few month's back maybe the uk version is slightly different but I managed to get the crank pin in without taking off the alternator and so maybe worth a try before taking it off. and the only thing's I did differently was putting loctite on cam, fuel pump and crankshaft pullys bolts, and I aligned the crank pully using the long pully bolt to guide through the seal.
+FRUITBAT2006T Trevor is yours a Mondeo or Focus? Either way it will be identical to the UK version. I don't think that there is anyway I could have done that without removing the AC and alternator. Both are right in the way. I did use a bit of Loctite here and there but must have edited out that to try and keep the video shorter. What condition/mileage was your belt in when you took it off? Cheers
HI, sorry for the delay it was a c max and I removed the bottom hose the fiddly bit was getting the blank plug back in after taking out the tool I taped it to the socket with tape. it had done 100,000 miles and the lower belt was showing signs of cracking oddly the top belt still looked new but I changed it of course.
Do keep the videos coming great work.
+FRUITBAT2006T Trevor a couple of people have mentioned having trouble getting that blanking plug back in. Thanks for sharing your experience. More videos coming soon! Cheers
15:49... your CPR training at work! Back to watching! =)
+Thomas EXOVCDS that's what I thought when I saw that!
Hallo where can i find a dust caver for the timing belt on a ford focus tdci 1.8 2003
Hi mate I've just completed this job myself on a mondeo. The cars running but noticed I have an oil leak from around the fuel pump. What's the relevance of the plastic white ring that comes with the new seal as I just thought it was there to keep the shape of the seal and removed it before pressing the seal on? Should I have put the seal on with this in place?
The white ring is there as a guide to help get the seal on without damaging it. I don't think I kept it in place when I put it on as it was a really tight fit. Just be careful it's not leaking onto the top timing belt.
Hi , I have a question is the timing pump rotated is the pump has a position point like the other pump
The diesel pump is not timed
The wet belt should be consigned to history, it's the worst of both worlds. The inconvenience of a chain and the longevity of a belt. Personally I wouldn't even bother tinkering with it.
That will give you something to do in your free time ;)
+Ozzstar free time? I've heard of that
it is necesary to change the seals if u have no leaks ?
thank you and good job u made !
Thanks. Yes, definitely change the seals
Hi mate nice video. I've ordered the same kit and not sure how to set the 2 sprockets up. I understand the crankshaft one has to be positioned with the pin on the sprocket but I'm not sure if I need to set the fuel injection sprocket up in a certain way. Any advice would be great. Thank you
Hi mate. I wish they sent the chain pre assembled it would take a lot of headaches out of the process. I just assembled it alongside the belt I removed to make sure it was all in the right place. There's no orientation to worry about as the fuel pump end is held on by a taper and is not timed. Bolting the little hub to the girl pump sprocket is a bit if guess work. I positioned it so that the bolts butted up against the sprocket in the direction of rotation so that timing couldn't alter if they slipped. It all makes sense when you've assembled it
How is the correct timing on the injector pump set , when the pump shaft rotation can be in any position within the sprocket ? I cannot understand this description !
The injector pump is not timed
After these years, do you consider this job worth it? Always seemed interesting to me but don't think I'd do it
Well done!!! I am going to do mine and your video will surely come handy. Are you going to do video on valve clearances in near future? It would be nice if someone paved the way, then I could tackle two jobs at the same time having the rocker cover already off. :)
+Francziszek Kimono fantastic, hope the video helps you out. I might get to a valve clearance video on the 1.8. Watch this space. Cheers!
Big job you did it mine booked in garage next week I’m on 116k need done ASAP bought all the kit ant water pump ect garage want £300 fit how long did it take
It is a big job. I reckon it took me about 10 hours all up
Hi is it hard to assemble the chain assembly ? Is there a way chain need to be ? I just bought the same kit and as u said it doesn't come assembled
Thanks
It was a while ago now. I don't think it ended up ending too much of a hassle, but I don't remember the details, sorry.
Hello , nice video i will use it to do the job on my focus this saturday. I have one problem i have the tool kit but i don't have the tool 303-652 from ford , for alining the distributioncover from the wet belt . can i do the job whithout that tool?thank you
maybe by using the cranckshaft bolt ?
+bertje00 it would be better to have the tool otherwise it's going to be hard to align the timing cover properly and it might end up leaking. You might be able to improvise with something else but the tool will make it much easier. Cheers!
Did you use a new gasket on the wetbelt cover or did u juat use sealant?
I used a new gasket. It's a one time use metal gasket so you have to. I also added a little sealant
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very few mechanics change the lower belt and ford didn't used to give a change interval for it.
They can and do fail which causes engine damage that WILL include piston damage because the valves crack the edges of the swirl chamber in the piston crown.
Exactly, that's why I made this video. Thanks
Ta-da.... cheers!
I'll let my coworker do this one... if it were to ever come in! =)
+Thomas EXOVCDS cheers! Hopefully that's the one and only one I'm doing
Hey Badger did you remove power steering pump pipe or just unbolt pump and dangle it out of the way !!
I had electric power steering so no pipes. I guess you'd just move them out of the way
engine type is duratoq TCD
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gee thats a long video. i made this crank locking pin you show at 4.30minutes in my apprentice on a cnc machine from stainless for our 1,6 D fiesta ford from 1986 my dad blew it up within less then 10k from new with no water on autobahn till it stopped on its own. head was cracked and then new head on the camshaft snapped as it was also bent .. That was a steep learning curve i had lol.
I'm sure you were popular after that! Thanks for watching
1:50 Could you explain or do a video how to replace an alternator and it's pulley? Mine is squeaking and looks abit more complicated job than an "ordinary" alternator construction? How does alternator and it's pulley connect? Must it be replaced from beneath the car, as top is quite filled with pipes etc? I have a Ford Mondeo 1.8 TDCi 92 kW (125 HP) 2008.
If I get access to one of those cars again I will. It's pretty simple, just loosen the screws and undo the bolts
quick question,i have one of these 1.8 diesil Mondeo. I don't know anything of its history, would it be o.k to remove tension bolt only to see if a chain has been put in already.
yes
Torque to yield bolt for the crank pulley means it should have been replaced. Why didn't you use a torque angle gauge to tighten it to spec?
What torque setting were the 4 bolts the adapter fixed on to.
I can't remember now. Sorry
I have a Focus 1.8 TDCI GHIA and wonder if you can make a movie on how to adjust the valves.
I would if I still had a 1.8 tdci
Where is the engine code location on ford Mondeo exactly?
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Fantastic video mate it's not easy especially doing that job on the floor 1:02:42 what's your pirate name greybeard lol I cannot believe that Leon wanted you to thank him personally what a knob
+bodgit and leggit garage thanks mate, it was a chunk of work to do and film. Rrrrrrrrrrr says greybeard. What a ok knob 😂 you said it 😂😂😂
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Hello.
my wet belt broke off for 300,000 km. I bought a used engine with a chain and did not replace it. it withstands this chain?
Never heard of the chain version snapping