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  • @smithplayspokemon
    @smithplayspokemon  3 місяці тому +15

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  • @turtlesandwich77
    @turtlesandwich77 3 місяці тому +244

    11:22 "confusion at 16" yeah me too Kadabra...

  • @francescganau7679
    @francescganau7679 3 місяці тому +178

    Running two snorlax at the same time has always been so fun. One classic physical with Body Slam and the like. The other a slow killing machine with Amnesia plus Surf, Blizzard… it never gets old

    • @sceptile2794
      @sceptile2794 3 місяці тому +6

      I need to play fire red next time like this...

    • @M4x_P0w3r
      @M4x_P0w3r 3 місяці тому +30

      @@sceptile2794 Careful, Fire Red Snorlax is not good with a special set. Amnesia doesn't boost Special Attack there.

    • @elconsorte123
      @elconsorte123 2 місяці тому +2

      Yeah it would have to be Pokemon Red not FireRed. Good catch!

    • @pnealiv7443
      @pnealiv7443 2 місяці тому

      Love teaching Snorlax Pay Day 🥰

    • @Magic_Ice
      @Magic_Ice 9 днів тому

      A gen 2 player’s best dream

  • @PlaguevonKarma
    @PlaguevonKarma 3 місяці тому +188

    Happy to see the Dodrio propaganda! Don't forget it comes with TM Tri Attack and Fly too!

    • @SpliffingBrit
      @SpliffingBrit 3 місяці тому +3

      What do you even know about gen 1? ;p

    • @Hyrule-Postman
      @Hyrule-Postman 3 місяці тому +10

      Drill peck and Tri attack in gen 1 is all i need, i swear Tri attack has 45% para, 25% freeze and 20% burn chance with 10% to do no statuss.... or i am extremely lucky in gen 1 with tri attack status

    • @emkalina
      @emkalina 3 місяці тому +6

      @@Hyrule-Postman it doesn't do status in gen i

    • @banditrests
      @banditrests 3 місяці тому +8

      Tri attack has no secondary effect in gen 1, body slam is strictly better. But dodrio and is absolutely the best non legendary flying type.

    • @Hyrule-Postman
      @Hyrule-Postman 3 місяці тому

      @@emkalina my last Yellow run says otherwise, unless the rom i got has a patch included to make Tri Attack apply status, it definitely does

  • @tabbender1232
    @tabbender1232 3 місяці тому +83

    Gengar pre physical special split was insane because it was immune to or double resisted 4 physical types (5 in gen 3 because levitate) which is like half of them. Coupled with its absurd special defense in gen 1 and great speed too... yeah

    • @ShiningJudgment666
      @ShiningJudgment666 3 місяці тому +8

      The lack of proper STAB sucks for it though. Neutral Psychics and Thunderbolts coming from it are surprisingly underwhelming at times. But it is amazing despite its flaws. The ability to hard wall certain Pokemon is a legitimate use.

  • @cmbaz1140
    @cmbaz1140 3 місяці тому +46

    Nidoking has saved my ass so many times in so many games...truly deserves to be called KiNG

    • @enerc2333
      @enerc2333 3 місяці тому +3

      In those 1st generation games, if you have anyone else in your starting game, I assure you that anyone can destroy this entire game.
      One of those is Rhyhorn- Rhydon, kingler with crabhammer In that generation it is 99% guaranteed critical. Even if he has a special evil, he destroys everything. Since with sword dance with body slam you have a very easy time, and the crabhammer for rock types, It is 100% guaranteed and if you want you can add ice beam or blizzard for other coverage or simply hyper beam, since in that generation you do not need to recharge when you defeat a Pokémon.Underrated, Yes! Since in the following generations it fell a lot, but in the first games, red, blue and yellow, it is a great Pokémon.

    • @carloscolin8874
      @carloscolin8874 10 днів тому +1

      Facts

  • @KlldbyCuriosity
    @KlldbyCuriosity 3 місяці тому +46

    As a competitive player, Starmie being number 1 is no surprise you kind of need one on a team

    • @MrLinkkid
      @MrLinkkid Місяць тому +3

      Starmie is my favorite Pokemon and I use it any chance I get in both playthroughs and in competitive battles. You really can't go wrong.

  • @Reazzurro90
    @Reazzurro90 3 місяці тому +6

    100% agree on Starmie. I always make sure I get to Fuscia City as quickly as possible so I can capture Staryu and begin training it. It is a formidable Pokémon even when it is at a type disadvantage, especially with the versatility of moves it can learn.

  • @addambarcelos
    @addambarcelos 3 місяці тому +33

    I mean, the 1st place doesn't really seem controversial, it's really good

    • @Salnax
      @Salnax 3 місяці тому +5

      It is amazing, but you have to get halfway thru the game and then use half of the Rare Candies and best TM’s on it. That late availability and high investment hild it back IMO.

    • @jaketno
      @jaketno 3 місяці тому +4

      @@Salnax I found grinding on Cycling Road does Starmie very well. Though ya it's hard to recommend unless you're willing to put in a bit of work at first.

  • @garg4531
    @garg4531 3 місяці тому +43

    Definitely agree that Starmie is underrated, but not without its challenges unfortnately
    As you said you can evolve it straight away for high stats and give it access to Surf, Psychic, Thunderbolt, and Ice Beam for an insane powerhouse, but it also comes late game and a low level, and at that point most casual playthroughs might already have a full team of high level mons

    • @whiteeeveeangel
      @whiteeeveeangel 3 місяці тому +10

      I absolutely agree with this. Usually by the time I can get the super rod to fish up Staryu, I have a fully established team that's already in the mid-30s and Staryu cam only be found at lv 15 (20 in yellow) at the earliest point. If you could catch it at 10 or 15 with the Good Rod in Vermilion, I would totally agree, but at 15 off the coast of Fuchsia? Nah, I'll pass it up for Jynx in a heartbeat.

    • @garg4531
      @garg4531 3 місяці тому +3

      @@whiteeeveeangel Add to that by that point you gain access to the super rod or surf you already have access to blastoise, gyarados, vaporeon, and/or lapras, all great water types available much sooner
      Why try anything else, especially when you get them at such a low level in the late game

    • @zivronen9539
      @zivronen9539 3 місяці тому +8

      It has been a long time since I played the games, but I believe that the issue isn't helped by Starmie being in the slow level up group, while jynx is medium-fast with a 1.5x trade multiplier.

    • @EuroMIX2
      @EuroMIX2 3 місяці тому +3

      I've always thought that Starmie was cool, but never really used one for this exact reason.

    • @ShiningJudgment666
      @ShiningJudgment666 3 місяці тому +5

      @@garg4531 Starmie is quite cracked though. It's got the movepool and the stats to take advantage of it. The grind and slow level up group is painful for it though. Gyarados has a similar movepool (doesn't get Psychic but can hit hard from the physical side) and is obtainable earlier. Lapras is in a similar boat but isn't as offensively inclined. Gen 1 has a lot of Water types honestly. You'd have to consider if you want something limited with Water/Ice coverage or something that can bring more to the table.

  • @AdrianGarcia-ts1or
    @AdrianGarcia-ts1or 3 місяці тому +15

    In my playthrough of Pokemon lifegreen from like 4 years ago I had a starmie and taught it the same moves you just mentioned. I considered it my best Pokemon back in the day

    • @brunolepri8177
      @brunolepri8177 3 місяці тому

      Surf, tbolt, ice beam and psychic, the perfect gen 1 offensive set

    • @FoggyMcFogFace
      @FoggyMcFogFace 3 місяці тому

      @@brunolepri8177 I always think about what to do with Starmie but it always ends up with those exact 4 moves because it's just obviously the best

  • @joeschof9088
    @joeschof9088 3 місяці тому +28

    Hell yeah jynx is my favourite mon to use on a playthrough and no one appreciates how good its stabs are for the major fights

    • @smithplayspokemon
      @smithplayspokemon  3 місяці тому +5

      Jynx is goated

    • @enerc2333
      @enerc2333 3 місяці тому

      Jinx is good, but a physical attack of any kind destroys him. Those 35 physical defense always bothered me, I don't know why, they gave him such a low defense, a rock thrower destroys him, And a rock slide, they kill 10 jinx in a row. Up to the twinneedle, They can destroy Beedrill, with about 50 or 55 physical defense they would be perfect for that Pokémon. And for Alakazam with about 60 or 65 physical defense they would be great, I don't know why they left them, Such low defense, I suppose because of their very high special, since they were very abusive and would be difficult to defeat. But with those defenses they would be fine.

    • @KeroTheInvincible
      @KeroTheInvincible 3 місяці тому

      @@enerc2333 Anything with Rock Slide is getting outsped and hit with super-effective STAB if its name isn't Dugtrio. This is also a list for in-game playthroughs, so while there are a few Pokemon on notable trainer's teams (Rival Jolteon, Lance Aerodactyl, Giovanni Persian) that can outspeed Jynx and land a solid physical hit, they're easy enough to play around, and Jynx still puts in a tremendous amount of work.
      Kanto as a whole is just packed with trainers using Poison, Grass, Fighting and Ground types. Not even to mention what stat experience does to Pokemon with good availability.

    • @zsmit7648
      @zsmit7648 3 місяці тому

      @@KeroTheInvincibledoes Jynx outspeed aerodactyl?

    • @KeroTheInvincible
      @KeroTheInvincible 3 місяці тому

      @@zsmit7648 Does Aerodactyl get Rock Slide?

  • @jaketno
    @jaketno 3 місяці тому +14

    I've found doing Saur runs that its most effective strategy is a Swords Dance/Body Slam combo. It seems somewhat counter intuitive but the Dances not only increases attack significantly, but can also trigger the bug known as the Badge Boost Glitch potentially increasing stats like defense and speed as well (temporarily) Normal type moves tend to do pretty well in this game so Dance and Slam really makes its time a breeze. Also fairly obvious, but keeping Razor Leaf for those that it's super effective against is also highly recommended lol most Mons fall with 1-2 of those sweet guaranteed crits.
    Toxic/Leech Seed (While a neat little glitch) is a huge waste of turns. You have to spend one turn setting up one move, another turn to set up another, and then it takes a couple more turns to bear fruit. Not to mention both moves aren't all that accurate, so you could spend even more turns missing. Swords Dance does require turns of set up as well but once you're set up you'll be good to go for the rest of the battle, whereas Toxic/Leech Seed requires you to repeat the process for every Pokémon.
    IMO its best set at the end would be Swords Dance, Body Slam, Razor Leaf, and Sleep Powder (Hey you never know lol)

    • @ShiningJudgment666
      @ShiningJudgment666 3 місяці тому +1

      Venusaur's good but its coverage is ass (why does it only get Grass and Normal for coverage). It's not great for solo runs for that reason but it's a good support because Gen 1 sleep is busted (and worth delaying evolution so you can get Sleep Powder sooner) and anything that can pull it off semi-reliably is viable. Not un-doable but it doesn't get Earthquake like Charizard and Blastoise. It is at least faster than Victreebell, better than Vileplume and Tangela and easier to get than Exeggutor.

    • @DMaster8686
      @DMaster8686 3 місяці тому +1

      Just keep in mind that in gen 1 crits ignore your own stat boosts so they end up doing less damage if you use something like sword dance. That said there isn't much better choice for a grass move in gen 1 than razor leaf...

    • @jaketno
      @jaketno 3 місяці тому

      @@DMaster8686 Ya Badge Boost doesn't work well with crit hits obviously lol That's why I'd opt more for Swords Dance/Body Slam over Growth/Razor Leaf. In my scenario, Body Slam would be the dominant attack in the arsenal with Razor Leaf being more of its secondary attack (Like I said counter intuitive not making STAB dominant, but this just works the best)

    • @jaketno
      @jaketno 3 місяці тому

      @@ShiningJudgment666 I've actually done multiple solo runs with each starting family. Blastoise is the easiest by far with (Surf/Hydro Pump, Ice Beam/Blizzard, Earthquake/Dig, Withdraw) then Venusaur is second with the set I mentioned and then Charizard last (Swords Dance, Earthquake/Dig, Body Slam, and Flamethrower/Fire Blast. You don't want Slash on this set because it will ignore your Dances thus making Swords Dance somewhat useless) Saur does better than you might think even without EQ (Though it would be much nicer if it could use it lol) Erika is bugged to keep wanting to poison Saur despite it not being possible (Gotta love Gen 1 lol) same with Lance, the Dragon types will spam Agility so Saur wins for free. Blaine is easy to set up Swords Dance on Growlithe who can only use Ember or Agility (Coin flip in possibility) and Body Slam will be enough to win even without Super Effective damage. The only real wall it has is Agatha which requires sleep strategies, and resisted Razor Leaf. Zard unfortunately has the hardest wall to climb out of all 3 mons being Lance's Gyarados. Gyarados hits for super effective hydro pump damage. Lorelei isn't that safe for it either. Though once Charizard can set up dances and use EQ it becomes a total monster.

  • @shsz1984
    @shsz1984 3 місяці тому +7

    I SO agree with the 1# spot. (And I'm a Mewtwo fan, but damn!)
    Discovering as a little kid that Starmie could learn Psychic, Recover (as Staryu ofc), Thunderbolt, Blizzard, etc, made my jaw drop. (I hoarded the TMs and didn't use them until later. That's how I found out) And seeing it going first every single turn... Felt like hitting the jackpot with this fella.
    Plus, it was really fun to use in Pokemon Stadium. So much coverage it was insane!

  • @CheeseBlaster
    @CheeseBlaster 3 місяці тому +6

    I remember my first Yellow team being Pikachu, Dugtrio, Dodrio, Hitmonlee, Starmie and Snorlax. So seeing half of my team in this video made me proud

  • @samueleich13
    @samueleich13 3 місяці тому +4

    As a Pokemon tournament player from the very beginning, I can say from experience that in the late 90s you didn't have easy access to the Internet like you do today and a lot of information about moves or strategies could only be found through magazines like Nintendo Power or Pokemon Strategy Guides. I was lucky that my brother-in-law already had internet back then and I was able to find out about a lot of Pokemon and moves.
    My Pokemon Red battle ready team at the time consisted of Alakazam, Tauros, Chansey, Exeggutor, Snorlax and Zapdos. I still have the save file because I was able to save it to this day with an Action Replay in the early 2000s.

  • @leonardoluiz7487
    @leonardoluiz7487 3 місяці тому +11

    I think you're underselling Nidoking.
    Earthquake is available as soon as Erika and that would give him STAB neutral damage against 2/3 of her team. Even without EQ, NIdoking still either resist or go neutral against most moves in Erika's gym.
    I understand not getting EQ before Erika, but it far more acceptable to get it before Koga, at which point it stomps the gym.
    Sabrina is weird. If you can outspeed her Nidoking can solo her, if you can't Nidoking is a very risky pick.
    By Blaine you should have EQ either way, so it's a good matchup.
    Nidoking is also good against most of Giovanni's team. It's terrible vs Dugtrio, but it will outspeed and KO both Nidos and will at least heavily damage Rhydon, as it's faster.
    EQ Nidoking soloes Agatha, goes neutral against Bruno (which might be enough to solo Bruno, since he's really bad) and helps against a few pokemon in the Champion fight.

  • @xjennyintime
    @xjennyintime 3 місяці тому +9

    I feel like Articuno deserves a honorable mention, as it comes at level 50 (which is massive for a wild pokemon and makes up for the slow growth rate), requires pretty much no TM investment as it naturally learns its best moves almost immediately and does massive damage to pretty much everything that doesn't resist ice, which by the time you get it boils down to just Lorelei, making Jolteon or Zapdos good partners. Its amazing bulk also lets it sponge hits from things it can't one-shot which is a big advantage over Jynx or Alakazam, and at least in Red and Blue, its type weaknesses aren't really put to the test (fire and electric are rare outside of their gyms and the only sources of rock type damage are Rock Throw from Bruno's Onix or random Geodude...). Overall, while it is only available after Koga and does require support to deal with Lorelei, Articuno is just really, really good for a playthrough and it's probably worth using your Master Ball on the most.
    Also, Gengar is so good that you can literally get away with just using the moves it learns naturally and not teach it any TMs, even Lick is useful alongside Confuse Ray and Night Shade thanks to the paralysis chance.

    • @ShiningJudgment666
      @ShiningJudgment666 3 місяці тому +3

      If only Articuno's movepool wasn't so barren. Lorelei's a roadblock for Articuno for sure. Zapdos at least gets dual-STAB though not really anything else (Hyper Beam/Double Edge at least gives it a way to get past Electrics which are ironically solid checks outside of Rock/Ground types). You honestly don't need to use a Master Ball on anything with Gen 1 sleep.

    • @xjennyintime
      @xjennyintime 3 місяці тому

      @@ShiningJudgment666 True, istant 21% catch chance after landing sleep plus a wide array of good sleepers makes ultra balls just as consistent.
      And Articuno only really needed a good flying move a.k.a. Drill Peck imo, if it had access to it, it would be near unstoppable as Ice/Flying is only resisted by the Mount Moon fossils

    • @redwings13400
      @redwings13400 2 місяці тому +1

      In a casual playthrough, the legendary birds (at least Zapdos and Articuno) are both ridiculous because they come at level 50 and can be caught with a master ball for free, so it's basically a free auto-win button against either Lorelei or Lance, depending on which trainer you need the help against. You don't need them to beat the game, but like, if you're only training up four or five pokemon anyway to keep around a consistent hm slave in your party, they will always make your team stronger. There's a reason a lot of nuzlockes ban legendaries, because they usually come at such a high level that they are often just immediately the strongest member of your team with no investment required.
      The only downside is the low catch rates if you're saving your master ball for Mewtwo, so sometimes it's more annoying than its worth to catch them.

  • @underblader9675
    @underblader9675 3 місяці тому +8

    In my last leaf green Nuzlocke starmie was a win button. I wouldn't have accepted any other place for the gen 1 god

  • @gamequack48
    @gamequack48 3 місяці тому +19

    When you covered the other water types (Gyarados, Tentacruel) I was worried that you had missed the best 2 (Slowbro, Starmie) haha. Great vid!

    • @apeters8
      @apeters8 3 місяці тому +1

      I kept thinking he had underrated starmie... It was my favorite to get when I was a kid.

    • @dlake1224
      @dlake1224 3 місяці тому +1

      Yeah it sounded like the top one wouldn't be water

    • @colinhobbs7265
      @colinhobbs7265 3 місяці тому

      Also forgot about lapras

    • @MK-yg2np
      @MK-yg2np 2 місяці тому

      In yellow you can catch shellder at lv40 on cycling road

  • @MimictheRaft
    @MimictheRaft 3 місяці тому +3

    Im so glad you metnioned Jynx.
    Jynx is an underrated Pokemon that never got an evolution, because Nintendo was too scared of it.

    • @eldest808
      @eldest808 Місяць тому

      Racism was Jinx evolution lol

  • @JohnJohnson-wy5ct
    @JohnJohnson-wy5ct 2 місяці тому +3

    For catching an abra, Catch a bellsprout with wrap. You can wrap abra, and it can't teleport away.

  • @jaydenb635
    @jaydenb635 3 місяці тому +2

    Absolutely agree with starmie. I had always thought it as another pokemon only good in gen 1, but after using it in gen 3 ROM hacks its nice to see its still an amazing option in future games.

  • @ElsyeaR
    @ElsyeaR 3 місяці тому +3

    Starmie can be good as you described IF you decide to voluntarily dodge a lot of encounters and do a convoluted route for rare candies and catching it. I don't think people would do that in their first or second playthrough. Clefable, Nidoking or Nidoqueen will most often than not be used instead, because it's easier to have them (as you told)

  • @KawaiiAzusa
    @KawaiiAzusa 3 місяці тому +25

    I'm shocked Mr. Mime wasn't only high on the list, it wasn't even mentioned. I would have put it tied with number 1.
    You can get it before the 4th gym, and it essentially does what Alakazam does (and that has to be traded, which most people these days probably can't do). On top of that it has more coverage than Alakazam, which is one of its biggest weaknesses. But the most important fact is that it's a trade Pokemon, so the early investment to catch up on exp gets rewarded by a much higher level in the end later.
    Jrose11 did a video where he does the least amount of possible battles, and Mr. Mime is the key to all of that. If that doesn't show how good of a Pokemon it is, then what does show it?

    • @smithplayspokemon
      @smithplayspokemon  3 місяці тому +5

      its part of the honorable mentions as it's outclassed by alakazam

    • @KawaiiAzusa
      @KawaiiAzusa 3 місяці тому +8

      @@smithplayspokemon Somehow I must have missed it in the honourable mentions.
      Still I would argue it's better than Alakazam because of the extra exp from trading and learning Thunderbolt.
      Both will make the game trivial, so in the end it doesn't matter

    • @dlake1224
      @dlake1224 3 місяці тому +1

      Yeah extra exp makes it sooo good

    • @finnvaneekelen4966
      @finnvaneekelen4966 3 місяці тому

      Yeah the traded EXP really is bonkers. But i do also get why its not high up as its stats are just so much worse then alakazam

    • @Vorael
      @Vorael 3 місяці тому

      Honestly I agree, its stats are pretty comparable to Kadabra's. Alakazam/Golem/Gengar are kinda cheating, since you probably don't have access to them anyway.

  • @justinrazon7200
    @justinrazon7200 3 місяці тому +3

    Graveler (aka Geodude) was among my very first Hall of Fame and actually did a lot of heavy lifting. Even tho Rockslide was terrible, it somehow did it's job way way back during the times I literally knew nothing about pokemon and was like "Hey, TM Rockslide, I has rockdude"
    Also I had no access to trades because the gameboy was a "luxury" item in my country. So I was stuck with Graveler. I don't think I recall even knowing it could evolve. I gave Earthquake to Charizard and not Graveler because I saw that they both could learn it and chose my cool dragon over the rock.
    Also I didn't know Snorlax was actually a good pokemon, I definitely caught it, then dumped it into the PC never to look at it. Gotta Catch'em All.
    P.S. - Kid me never used items. And weirdly enough, adult me still don't. Elixir Syndrome is real.

  • @jeremyrossi2716
    @jeremyrossi2716 3 місяці тому +2

    Fun Fact: You can get a level 100 obedient Gengar before Brock with some glitches in a similar fashion to how you can glitch a Mew encounter before Misty. This will run confuse ray, lick, and night shade (and maybe Hypnosis, it's been a while so I don't fully remember). This basically means that even without TMs you can just one shot mostly anything. If you do give it TMs it gets even better at its job, especially if you use the Missingno. glitch to duplicate TMs to use on multiple Pokemon. Gengar's ony other major weakness, it's frailty, is not only negated by it's sheer speed, power, and immunity to the most common attacking type; but it is also negated by the fact that you are level 100. Even if you are hit by a psychic or earthquake-unless it is from an insane attacker with STAB like Alakazam or Nidoking-you will be fine. Glitched Gengar is probably the best Pokemon for an in game play through of all time.

  • @Adamzx1258
    @Adamzx1258 3 місяці тому +6

    id love to see this for future generations

  • @Cookynator
    @Cookynator 3 місяці тому +3

    Going to have to mildly disagree with Starmie as top slot for 2 reasons. Firstly because of it being in the slow level up group which means that if youre going solo or avoiding extra grinding it will be down 10 levels on the medium groups and 15 on a fast leveler by the E4 and secondly, because it lacks any set up move. If it wasn't for those things, it definitely would be number 1!
    That coverage plus its base special is insanely good!
    I'd also rate Blastoise above Tentacool because of the levelling up rates as well (medium-slow vs slow)
    Lastly, I think you're somewhat underestimating the value of sleep move + set up move. That combo makes Venusaur and Victreebel absolutely cracked! I'd say it's actually more broken than para-wrapping because of the PP limit on that.

  • @paulwalker3758
    @paulwalker3758 3 місяці тому +1

    Absolutely agree with Starmie. My Gen 1 Starmie was the bane of my friends in battles and easily my most consistent Pokemon in playthroughs.

  • @armorbearer9702
    @armorbearer9702 3 місяці тому +3

    Yeah! Respect Geodude! The lack of strong fighting type moves helps Geo's usefulness.

  • @matthewmoser1284
    @matthewmoser1284 3 місяці тому +2

    I've been testing out different teams lately, and in my most recent Kanto run I tried out Starmie for the first time.
    Starmie is BROKEN. Especially in Gen 1. It's now completely replaced Alakazam on my primary Kanto team builds. S tier pokemon for sure.

    • @smithplayspokemon
      @smithplayspokemon  3 місяці тому

      Right!! Ala is also just so boring. Like it’s a psychic machine, and that’s it

  • @pnealiv7443
    @pnealiv7443 2 місяці тому +2

    After you get Lapras, it can handle literally everything. With Body Slam, Blizzard, Psychic, and Thunderbolt, it can take the ENTIRE Elite Four by itself 😶

  • @Hubilicious90
    @Hubilicious90 3 місяці тому +3

    „In the context of a normal playthrough, where you are using three to six Pokémon.“ - I’m pretty sure a normal playthrough would be soloing your starter 😂

  • @Walkerman379
    @Walkerman379 16 днів тому +1

    I think Dugtrio is underrated here. At the time that it is available, it is OP. The toughest part of the investment is that the wild one you try to catch could wipe out your team. It immediately takes out Surge and clears Lavender Tower and it doesn't need to use TMs for dig/earthquake so you can use those for other pokemon on your team. I used Dugtrio nearly every time I played.

    • @GameOgreDonkey
      @GameOgreDonkey 9 днів тому

      Same. Dugtrio/venasaur alone got you through 80% of the game.

  • @craigyeah1052
    @craigyeah1052 3 місяці тому

    A casual quick run with bulbasaur, geodude, jynx/doduo, and then tentacruel sounds like such a chill playthrough, maybe jolteon as well. (also gotta wonder who is saying diglett is the best early dig user)

  • @NickJamNG
    @NickJamNG 3 місяці тому +1

    A slight note on the training up Abra front: Thunder Wave and Seismic Toss (with proper trainer positioning) are available just above Cerulean and eliminate the need to swap train Abra. Just para-toss everything up to Kadabra.

    • @robertgosney5657
      @robertgosney5657 3 місяці тому

      That is a interesting strategy that I never thought of thanks 👍

  • @Eric-gp3hi
    @Eric-gp3hi 3 місяці тому +3

    This is a great list I’m looking forward to Yellow Legacy!

  • @MLTN28
    @MLTN28 3 місяці тому +3

    Instead of getting Staryu directly below Fuchsia City, just swim to Seafoam island and use Super Rod on B3F or B4F to catch Staryu at a max level of 40 with an awesome 40% encounter rate. Saves you the level grinding then give Water Stone straight away. Teach Surf, Psychic, Ice Beam and Thunderbolt. By the time you defeat the 3 remaining gyms and victory road it will be close to level 60 when you reach the Pokemon League👍🏻

    • @smithplayspokemon
      @smithplayspokemon  3 місяці тому +1

      Damn I never knew this!! Based af

    • @tehSunBro
      @tehSunBro Місяць тому

      Thats only in yellow. In R/B its max level is 33, which is still a lot better than 15, for a quick surf@@smithplayspokemon

  • @RyoCaliente
    @RyoCaliente 3 місяці тому +2

    Have to give a shout-out to Raticate! It's fast, STAB Hyper Fang is brutal and once it learns Super Fang, you can halve anything's HP (and Raticate is fast enough to outspeed a lot of stuff).

  • @BlackDawn626
    @BlackDawn626 3 місяці тому

    4:50 nice double Stun Spore attack on Weepinbell

  • @manofsteelix
    @manofsteelix 3 місяці тому +8

    Persian aka sukuna of gen 1

    • @smithplayspokemon
      @smithplayspokemon  3 місяці тому +4

      persian's domain just warps you into a room that is just one giant hyper beam

    • @manofsteelix
      @manofsteelix 3 місяці тому

      @@smithplayspokemon doesn’t even need slash omg your right…

  • @scrubplaceholder6216
    @scrubplaceholder6216 3 місяці тому +2

    Victreebel is the most OP pokemon in yellow. If you start with only a victreebel you can speedrun the game faster then any other mon.

    • @ShiningJudgment666
      @ShiningJudgment666 3 місяці тому

      How does it get past Agatha consistently? She'd be a roadblock. I suppose Mimicking a Super Effective move.

  • @ADHDreams
    @ADHDreams 3 місяці тому

    I remember on my first play through of Pokémon red being confused, because my Clefable would learn a move on level up, but thinking he was amazing because he had bubble beam and mega punch!

  • @Thedarksenshi
    @Thedarksenshi 3 місяці тому

    Not surprised on Number 1, I remember giving it that moveset and even using it to solo Brandon's team of the Kanto Legendaries in Emerald.

  • @DUKEHadToDoItToEm
    @DUKEHadToDoItToEm 3 місяці тому +3

    Title: "its not what you think"
    Thumbnail: its exactly who you think

    • @smithplayspokemon
      @smithplayspokemon  3 місяці тому

      But watch

    • @DUKEHadToDoItToEm
      @DUKEHadToDoItToEm 3 місяці тому

      @@smithplayspokemon I did, only real surprise is Starmie being #1 despite the fact that I fully expected Starmie to be somewhere on the list. Gen 1 is boring overall. Go back to making gen 2 (the best generation in pokemon) great again

    • @philipspigelmeyer959
      @philipspigelmeyer959 3 місяці тому

      ​@@DUKEHadToDoItToEm you must not understand that HD already did redo gen 2😂😂😂 there is only so much you can do with it. Go back and watch his old vids and he explains he's doing gen 1 now, already did gen 2 and then after he gets done with gen 1 he's doing gen 3. Before you "try" to talk about stuff you don't know about go look to see if it's already been done and talked about😂😂😂😂😂😂

    • @DUKEHadToDoItToEm
      @DUKEHadToDoItToEm 3 місяці тому

      @@philipspigelmeyer959 No I fully understand he already did gen 2. I've been subbed to this channel since this guy has less than 30k subs, followed the whole development of his gen 2 remake and played through it once. It still feels unfinished, there's a lot that can still be done with it especially if you use the DS gen 2 remakes as the base rather than the GBC games. That's why I said "go back to..." rather than "make gen 2 great".
      Also why are you spamming laughing emojis when you're the one who has a fundamental misunderstanding and deserves to be laughed at here? Go outside or something

  • @dakotamcchristian495
    @dakotamcchristian495 2 місяці тому

    Persian in gen 1 is amazing due to crits being speed base and slash having stab. Also beedrill only run was fun

  • @santii9305
    @santii9305 3 місяці тому +2

    Gen 1 has so many powerful pokemons!!

    • @iss2075
      @iss2075 3 місяці тому +1

      Yeah, and then Gen II was the opposite and only had like 5 good Pokemon lol.

  • @2shy2guy52
    @2shy2guy52 Місяць тому

    I think that tentacruel is a really good example of power creeping, where it was a really good Pokemon in generation 1, but now it is just a throwaway annoying water encounter along the lines of wingull, finneon and magikarp.

  • @spyfire242
    @spyfire242 13 днів тому

    Spent the whole video waiting for Starmie and was about to be disappointed but you redeemed yourself. My favorite Pokemon and vastly underrated for how powerful it is.

  • @Hydraina
    @Hydraina 3 місяці тому +10

    I loveee clefable! I'm so glad to see It here!

  • @mismagia
    @mismagia 3 місяці тому +1

    okay so here's my hot take the best team you can make in kanto consists of Nidoking Starmie and Either Farfetch'd or Charizard
    Nidoking is your physical sweeper who comes in at gym 1 and solo carries you through the early game until you can pick up Starmie
    Nidoking gets: Strength/RockSlide/Submission/Earthquake ///// Starmie gets: Surf/Psychic/IceBeam/Thunderbolt
    these 8 moves hit every type in the game super effectively except for Psychic and Ghost since those types dont have a weakness in gen 1
    Using Strength over Body Slam is an unfortunate but necessary option especially in RBG because in those games Charizard cant learn Fly which means you have to use Farfetch'd as your Cut/Fly user and Farfetch'd cant learn Strength however you are only losing 5BP and the chance to paralyze Strength is still a perfectly good move in its own right so dont feel too bad
    Yellow players rejoice as the worlds saddest HM Charizard allows you to use whatever move you like on Nidoking
    Something extra to note is that if you're playing FireRed/LeafGreen Nidoking actually learns Brick Break and Shadow ball in those games giving you complete Super Effective type coverage over the entire game and Charizard also obtains Rock smash making it the defacto best Hm User in the region with Strength/Fly/Cut/RockSmash making Farfetch'd uneccessary
    if you really want to make this a 6 pokemon team then I say go catch yourself Articuno Zapdos and Moltres

  • @francescganau7679
    @francescganau7679 3 місяці тому +2

    Dugtrio. Dig against what you kill. Switch when u don’t. Easy and efficient

  • @EmperorOfTigers
    @EmperorOfTigers 3 місяці тому

    Very well put together and I definitely agree with most of your picks. I do think that Gengar deserves a higher place. It just hits so hard and its ghost type makes it immune to a lot of moves. It does struggle with mono Psychic but that's the only issue. I get it doesn't get a good stab move but it's still amazing with some TMs (which many if the highest place picks do too).
    I was super happy to see Jynx so high though. I've used it and it really is that good.
    I've never used Starmie but I definitely see that it's a great choice. I feel like the investment might be a bit too much for it to be as high as it is but I could be wrong.
    As for Alakazam I agree it's not the best Pokémon but still great but I think it mught still be ranked too high by a tiny bit. Its very weak defence wise so any good physical attacker can take it out. Also yes Psychic is very strong but Alakazams lack of coverage hurts it. Getting an Abra and training it up is rather annoying too.
    I actually find Gengar to be better and more useful than Alakazam to be completely honest.

  • @Cowne8
    @Cowne8 3 місяці тому +1

    10. Clefable
    9. Machamp
    8. Gengar
    7. Snorlax/Dodrio
    6. Bulbasaur line/Victreebell
    5. Geodude
    4. Nidoking
    3. Squirtle line/Gyarados/Tentacruel
    2. Abra line (Alakazam) / Jynx / Jolteon / Slowbro
    1. Starmie

  • @Joshuazx
    @Joshuazx 3 місяці тому +2

    lovely analysis!

  • @gofglida4155
    @gofglida4155 2 місяці тому +1

    Exeggcutor stats in Gen 1 are actually just ridiculous

  • @Hamsterpro2022
    @Hamsterpro2022 2 місяці тому +1

    I liked the video because you put my top 3 favorite Pokemon on the list!!!

  • @kalafrank5
    @kalafrank5 3 місяці тому +1

    i didn't expect that number one

  • @Ash-Ketchum-and-Pikachu
    @Ash-Ketchum-and-Pikachu 12 днів тому +1

    A beedrill can actually one shot an alakazam in gen 1 with twineedle (technically a 2 shot). It's the only real bug move and used it in my bug type only run one time

  • @RatedRMario21
    @RatedRMario21 3 місяці тому

    Starmie with a moveset of Surf, Psychic, Thunderbolt, Ice Beam is a Godsend when playing Round 2 (Hard Mode) of Pokemon Stadium 1. Amazing versatility and decent defenses make it a perfect leadoff almost every time

  • @bakuiel1901
    @bakuiel1901 3 місяці тому +1

    Dodrio is the only Original bird I haven't run in a playthrough, missing out

  • @caseyhart4999
    @caseyhart4999 25 днів тому

    Back when I was a kid with my red version when I would battle my friends Gengar was my absolute go to Pokémon. Hypnosis was my bread and butter lol.

  • @falcon5747
    @falcon5747 3 місяці тому

    I had Starmie in my Blue game back in the day and I approve of this message

  • @koltenastle3254
    @koltenastle3254 3 місяці тому +1

    Surprised to not see tauros here

  • @skaterdl8966
    @skaterdl8966 4 дні тому

    After many playthroughs on yellow i ended up trying a no-pika/starter/legendary team and ended up with victribell, machamp, dugtrio starmie dodrio and snorlax. Always wanted golem and gengar but no friends with a link cable. Crazy to see my entire team be here 👀

  • @ObiClon
    @ObiClon 3 місяці тому

    With the exception of Clefable,Machamp, & Jynx I used most of the Pokemon from this list (granted most of them were in last generation games).

  • @theprogram1950
    @theprogram1950 3 місяці тому

    After seeing the defense that starmie has in gen 1 I realized that he has it all: decent defense, good special attack (below alakazam), a lot of speed and the best coverage; psychic, thunder, ice beam/blizzard, surf, recover. By far the best mon in gen 1 (ignoring mewtwo).

  • @devonbrock6772
    @devonbrock6772 3 місяці тому

    I feel that Dugtrio should've also been on here. It's pretty early and easy to capture. Immediate use for the Electric gym as well as several afterwards. The 5th highest speed stat (tied with Alakazam) the ones faster are Electrode, Jolteon, Aerodactyl, and Mewtwo so the combo of Earthquake, Slash, and Rock Slide are great for most opponents.

  • @jplm5394
    @jplm5394 3 місяці тому +7

    Maybe you should take into consideration the experience rates as well. This takes Snorlax down a notch and boosts Clefable a bit.

  • @therealmorganofficial
    @therealmorganofficial 3 місяці тому +1

    Your choices are excellent. All except Geodude! He dies to any non-fire special attack through the whole game!

  • @d.d.7287
    @d.d.7287 15 днів тому

    I'm about %98 sure that I've never beaten a gen one game without at least one of Haunter, Alakazam, Garydos or Snorlax in my final team. Also, Clefable was mad underrated. It took me stumbling across the scenario you laid out by happenstance to realize it.

  • @noahf7258
    @noahf7258 Місяць тому

    I agree on starmie, I beat all of Pokemon stadium 1s gym leader castle and stadium cups with starmie alone doing the majority of the work!

  • @banditrests
    @banditrests 3 місяці тому +1

    All great picks and it’s nice to see some niche picks like Jynx get a chance to shine, but you are kind of glossing over the importance of growth rates. Slow growth rate Pokémon tend to fall behind if they don’t have the stats to compensate or you do a ton of extra grinding to make up for it and starmie’s base 100 special really is underwhelming despite it’s incredibly move pool and typing, especially if you’re going to get at alakazam for not one shotting everything. Ultimately though, victreebl is the best practically imo, it just hard beats everything but Agatha.

  • @LinktoSonic
    @LinktoSonic 2 місяці тому

    You should make a top 10 best pokemon to use in Pokemon Stadium for each cup and gym leader castle/elite four

  • @scraps7624
    @scraps7624 2 місяці тому

    I just realised that this is literally the 1st time I've ever seen the Jynx sprite from the player's perspective

  • @Trustee-of-The-Most-High
    @Trustee-of-The-Most-High 3 місяці тому +1

    After you know the gengar glitch there's no better choice 😂

  • @acediadekay3793
    @acediadekay3793 3 місяці тому

    I have beaten The Elite 4 and Asshat with just a level 48 Slowbro (no items in battle), the biggest issue was the speed since you are sometimes hoping the AI wound du something stupid before you can do your turn. So nr 1 makes a lot of sense to me.

  • @joeb6750
    @joeb6750 3 місяці тому

    Nidoking was my favorite in Yellow out of some coincidence because I both liked it more than Nidoqueen and it learned double kick at lvl 11

  • @user-gt7vi9jm9m
    @user-gt7vi9jm9m 3 місяці тому

    I am so glad with the trade evos that the second stage is usable if you cannot get the full evolution.

  • @AkaiAzul
    @AkaiAzul 3 місяці тому

    Thoughts on Mew? Obtainable via glitch, yes, but learns any TM, great typing, great base stat total, obtained early.

  • @marawe1292
    @marawe1292 Місяць тому

    6:30 Victreebell is in the list cause it sounds like victory-bell!😅

  • @emkalina
    @emkalina 2 місяці тому

    how do you get poliwag before erika?

  • @pedrohenriquecarneiro3386
    @pedrohenriquecarneiro3386 2 місяці тому

    13:38 I love using Jolteon in gen 1 games

  • @vegaphoenix475
    @vegaphoenix475 3 місяці тому

    I always knew starmie is the best! It’s my favorite Pokémon which usually gets me weird looks but I love it!

  • @derekoverhage9180
    @derekoverhage9180 Місяць тому

    You don’t need a friend for gengar. Use the escape rope glitch on the second to last trainer in the forest. You can catch a lvl 2 gengar.

  • @benjaminakerman5066
    @benjaminakerman5066 3 місяці тому

    I think what I appreciate most about his game takes are that they are backed up by data like it’s hard to argue the numbers

  • @KeroTheInvincible
    @KeroTheInvincible 3 місяці тому

    If we're talking about low investment and high reward, being able to catch a lvl 31 Dugtrio before Surge is having a portable nuke in your back pocket. It's frail, but outspeeds absolutely everything of any relevance. Knows 100 base power Dig naturally, learns guaranteed crit Slash after 4 levels, and even learns Earthquake naturally if you grind to 47.
    Since it can use the Fissure TM from Giovanni, it's also the best abuser of Gen 1's X Accuracy. Dugtrio can literally outspeed and instantly kill anything in a playthrough that isn't Flying, or Mewtwo.

  • @Xestern
    @Xestern 3 місяці тому

    yoo what a great vid, instant sub

  • @mrplow8
    @mrplow8 Місяць тому

    I always beat everything with Blastoise and Dugtrio until I got far enough to do the rare candy cheat, and then I just made a team of 6 level 100 Pokémon.

  • @BluePhoenix_
    @BluePhoenix_ 3 місяці тому

    Nidoking front sprite: I am going to destroy your sorry 4ss!
    Nidoking back sprite: I... I don't wanna be here... I am bored...

  • @victoriousf.i.g.3311
    @victoriousf.i.g.3311 2 дні тому

    Clefable went to the Elite 4 with me. It's pretty bulky and has moves for every situation

  • @realOmegasMovie
    @realOmegasMovie 3 місяці тому

    Definitely agreed that Starmie is the best , I have used this Pokémon ever since I was a child and I still use it in Pokémon Let’s go Pikachu, it really is killing machine😄😄

  • @morganc4920
    @morganc4920 9 днів тому

    Taurus never gets any love. His attack scales up so quick. By level 50 he way outclasses snorlax. Body slam can solo everything but rock and ghost type in end game. Taurus is the sleeper pick

  • @Medabee8
    @Medabee8 3 місяці тому +1

    6:23 - Wrong. Paralyzed opponents will be able to attack 75% of the time.

  • @forsetimaster0689
    @forsetimaster0689 3 місяці тому

    I feel Dugtrio should have been featured more on this list. Not only can you get one evolved instantly right before Surge (obviously its best fight) but it also learns everything it could ever want barring Rock Slide by level up. Dig, Slash, and eventually Earthquake will leave a lot of options available for your other team members, and all of them are coming off of a 23.4% crit rate due to its rediculous 120 speed.

  • @AcedSama
    @AcedSama 2 місяці тому

    Dodrio and Vaporeon are my favs ❤

  • @carlosfigueredo5682
    @carlosfigueredo5682 3 місяці тому

    For a true Gen1 Red and Blue Player, no resource is truly finite, as with some planning the Missingno Glitch would grant you infinite TMs

  • @thechamp6813
    @thechamp6813 3 місяці тому

    You clearly missed out on Dugtrio.
    You can catch a Level 29-31 one before the second gym.(before the third Gym is the most common) Which makes it the strongest Pokemon to obtain levelwise without glitches until Snorlax or entering Surf.

  • @nickw7452
    @nickw7452 3 місяці тому

    Whatnot - DadOfChu
    Glad Clefable got some love. Used it in Yellow and it helped so much on the N64. Used Mega Punch, Psychic, Thunder Wave and Flash. Got to unlock Dodrio mode