Mercedes OM606 vs. OM648, Two Generations of Inline 6-Cylinder Turbo Diesel Engines, W210 & W211
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- Опубліковано 21 лют 2022
- Today we compare and contrast the 1998 Mercedes W210 E300 Turbo Diesel and the 2005 Mercedes E320 CDI. Both are great cars and there are pros and cons to each. Which is your favorite? Let us know in the comments!
*Update -- The 1998 E300 has been sold*
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Two best diesel engines mercedes ever done!From both this engines me make 500+ hp.And power limit of both still unknown!
there are now examples of the om606 with over 1000hp that have the original engine block but other connecting rods and pistons, mostly with a holset hx 55 and self-made 10 - 14mm diesel pumps
@@christianforster5176 nobody built yet 1000hp om606 .Most powerful is 800hp(at dyno) for now.
@@IvanovSuperturbodieselProjects no i have seen one dyno with 996hp, this car isnt on the internet and the car doesn't drive anymore because after approx. 10 runs the engine blew up
@@IvanovSuperturbodieselProjects and a crazy guy drives a 1000hp om606 in a toyota supra
@@christianforster5176 this supra has 600whp . Don't believe to tictok videos🤣🤣
Om606 is such a crazy good motor. Especially if you swap on a mechanical pump.
Nah 648>
The diesel cars that i want since 2019! i hope one day have all inline six om 603, 606, 613 and 648!
Our 2006 W211 has 290,000 + miles so far. We are going for 400,000. Sort of a miracle car.
I really like our W211 as well. It's now just a couple hundred miles from reaching 300k.
300 or 400 is nothing I seen 800k
i have swapped om648 from 211 to my sprinter van,it's difficult 😞 to swap but once done,my sprinter van rocks and rolls,it's got that magic power uphill,amazing engeneering
Are you using a manual or automatic trans?
i have been driving a w210 with the OM606 for a year now but with significantly more power ( i drive it with a borgwarner s200 and a 7.7mm diesel pump from dpuk along with its billet manifold and billet intake manifold and water methanol injection ( the car has 450 hp on the crankshaft and that for 80,000 km and on the complete engine are almost 420,000) ) and this engine has never had any problems and does not give the impression that anything is coming soon. By the way, the car has been running on vegetable oil for 3 months because a liter of diesel currently costs over €2.40 here
Do you use filtered veg oil or do you use a meth+catalyst mix?
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It'd be a shame to get rid of the om606, tuning potential is insane compared to the om648
It's true, they are super tunable. I've noticed a lot of these cars getting bought up just to strip the engines out for swaps.
@Timo Koeppen that goes for both 606 and 648.
@Alexander Danielsson 606 is wayyyy better om648 has more electronics
2 dreamcars for sure
I’d say give a another year or two and a lot of people will have conversions kits to fit a ZF 8 speed to both. I know there are some already running with it but not a lot of information.
they are already available PMC, and jota5sport
If God decided to sponsor a diesel engine a fully tuned 606 would be sainted! In the UK we had the OM648 powered W211 from 2003-05
I had a 2001 W210 E320 with the OM648 for a couple of years. it had about 330 000km on it and ran flawless...
My 99 has 454,000 miles. And I have had the 2005 version as well. Totally prefer the 99.
The best of the bunch is the OM611.
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Hi, great video, how does OM642 compares to these engines
You know, I'm not sure! I've not owned the V6 version.
Getting 41 winter and 47 summer on my 05 E320 CDI. Mile high and a quarter million miles. Would it run wvo? I ran my 82 CD turbodiesel on it with mods.
Love to see a pad replacement vid.
Not sure about WVO with the common rail injection on the OM648. I've run 100% biodiesel in the OM606 without modification and it runs perfectly.
I'd recommend no more than 20% biodiesel, it runs fine in the 606 because of the injection pump. However in the 648 the injectors shoot at a higher pressure and it is very easy to clog it up. That goes with any common rail diesel though
so jet lag tell me the best order for w124.w210 and w211 you are lucky enough to have driven them all what is the best chassis/model
I like them all! I think for longevity, probably the W124, although getting parts is harder all the time. The W210 has the best ride, and the W211 has the best features and most power. Also, the W211 has been the most trouble free for us!
I have owned all three and agree.
I do wish I never sold the 95 124 606 car.
Lots of 2 year only cars in the USA!
The w211 was actually released in May 2002. I have the 20th vehicle to roll off production in May 2002 (E270 cdi)
Yeah, in the US they were 2003 model year and the diesel was 2005 and 2006 only.
@@jetlagheroes7860 In Europe the diesels were continued on every model year up to this date... Now you just have to get a hybrid.
A w123 turbodiesel would be nice as well to have aside and compare
More videos of W210. Perse, driving around towns and highways. Thanks.
It has moved on to a new owner.
I still prefer the W210 bodyshell (exterior & interior dashboard instrumentation design etc.) but with updated engines & air-suspension from W211. I never like the idea of changing too drastically the appearances from 1 generation to the next just to look 'different' as function must prevail over form.
e.g. the black-white bar fuel gauge in W211 is horrible, way too difficult to read clearly compared to the classic proven swing-needle style with the amber colour needle set against warm-white character lighting...that's way more ergonomically superior presentation. As far as i'm concerned, they should have continued such old-school gauge style even for the newest models but of course nowadays done virtually via simulating the analogue gauge via high resolution graphics on modern flat panels instead.
The W210 chassis had horrible rust issues with the new 'eco' water based paints. Ruined my otherwise mint condition 1996 E320 with the smooth M104 inline 6. I loved that car...
Is the w210 still available or sold? I'll buy it right now. Thanks.
Still available.
@@jetlagheroes7860 May I asked your asking price?
@@jetlagheroes7860 May I asked your asking price?
@@jonweaver2410 Send us an email to the address listed in the video description.
I liked my om648 so much I ended up buying another. Also have a 87 wagon with the older om603--need to do some work to get that on the road. Wouldn't mind picking up a om606 to complete the trinity. (also have the om642 v6, but it's been a letdown with issues so about to get rid of it).
does the 642 feel as powerful as 648??
No not really. But it is in a bigger vehicle (r class) with AWD so it's a different feel than the E class rwd om648
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@@danielmorgan190 i like the idea of w221 diesel, but i have tried some modern smaller diesels in cla and A class 2018, and they didn't seem to be as aggressive as a 2011 golf diesel i drove, infact they were pretty flat and boring. i worry i would get a flat feeling diesel if i got w221 as emission regulations seem to have stopped motors getting going at wide open throttle.
well the 05-06 w211 with the om648 is a fun car to drive. It has a lot of kick for a fairly big diesel car. And will go 80-85 all day long at 35mpg @@raycroal
Hey OM606 is extremely reliable 😊
Did you sell the w210 ?
Not yet. Will be for sale soon.
2 STROKE OIL .. % PR TANKUP = HEALTHY FUELPUMP
I am interested in buying the w210
Already sold on to a new owner. Sorry!
I'm interested in buying your 98 E300
It's for sale
What you think, is om613 good engine? It's 3.2 liter diesel engine, you probably know it😁
From what I understand it's a good engine and very similar to the OM648, but we didn't get that version here in the states.
9:40 I have a CLK-220 CDi rocking an OM-646 and the injection pressure is 2,000 bars.
11:01 Yeah swirl-flaps $uck but luckily my 646 does not use that tech. Egr is the culprit in killing the flaps, exhaust heat plus all the gunk/sludge from egr will destroy the mechanism.
5:04 Also have an old 190-D with an OM-601 and the injection pressure is 130 bars(Lol), I think the OM 601 602 and 603 series (ala your sold W-124) differ from the OM 604 605 and 606 series(ala your W-210) in that the former have 2 valves while the latter have EDC (Electric Diesel Control) 4 valves per cylinder.
Btw there's a W-210 E-290 Turbo Diesel that uses the old 1980's OM-602 5-cylinder bored and stroked from 2.5l to 2.9l with direct injection as opposed to 602's original in-direct.
And also a W-202 C-200 Diesel using a 1980's OM-601,
am guessing both were marketed to folks who were accustomed to the old non-electronic Merc diesels that were virtually indestructible, am sure your W-124 agrees.
Heck I've seen 601 and 602's running on cooking oil with no modifications at all.
12:37 CLS-Class also has your Sensotronic Brake Control
They moved to V6 after the facelift. But at least they got em back in the latest line up.
In Europe they never discontinued them, just switched from i6 to V6. I had a 2001 E320 with the i6 cdi...
@@Munakas-wq3gp only om648 E320 CDI has i6 Diesel. And they switched that to om642 V6 after 2006 with the facelift w211.
Good video ..........
but it's kind of irritating being experienced hearing somebody else talk about these two cars....
Whys that
I hope that a 1996 Impala SS behinds CDI 320.
'94 Caprice Classic.
If you put OM 606 into Chevy which is behind of black👆🏾 Mercedes - you will have a real comfortable airplane🛩🦾🎩
Hopefully you haven't sold you w210 yet. If you still have it and will let it go , lemme know how much you are asking for it 😊
I still have it. If you're interested, send me an email to the address listed in the video description.
Ok , asap 🤠
selling the W211?
Nope, that's one of our daily driven cars.
Om 606 is 3000 psi per inyector bro
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Open the hoods completely.
❗️Chipmunks 🐿 better like it OM606 and under hood material.
Neither one is good as the 126 chassis 300SD turbo inline five cyl. Diesel 3.0 l.
Not nearly as quick though!
Між ними був іще om613, але там головка блока циліндрів погана, неправильно геометрія постелі розподільних валів, om606, або іще "the best end" останній форкамерний дизель мерседес для легкових авто, і він просто богоподібний, om648 в свою чергу це 613 з вилікуваними дитячими хворобами, зокрема й по голові, і паливна апаратура там дещо інша, на мою суб'єктивну думку це кращий дизельний двигун мерседес із common rail, також має величезний потенціал для тюнінгу
Sell me the 97 benz plsss
It's a 98. Going up for sale really soon!
Don’t sell it plz
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