R2Y2 v3 In War Thunder : A Basic Review
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- Опубліковано 19 чер 2024
- Taking a look at the R2Y2 in War Thunder. This aircraft is mostly fictional, as represented in WT, and will be removed from the game eventually. This video focuses on the V3, but most of it applies to the V1 and V2 as well.
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TIMESTAMPS
00:00 Intro & History
02:29 Systems & Weapons
04:39 Flight Performance
06:51 Combat Tactics
09:05 Miscellaneous
10:18 Conclusions - Ігри
"Source: it came to me in a dream" the aircraft
Gaijin: The source is that I made it the fuck up
I like how Tim emphasizes the importance of using the blue bomb…
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4:00 funny thing is, the AP bomb doesn't work as intended against actual ships, since for some reason Gaijoob didn't code the bombs to be able to piece anything. So, it's entirely useless for now.
Came here to say the same thing, glad there's at least one other player who knows this.
I did some extensive testing years ago when I started playing Japanese aircraft and was pretty disgusted with the way Gaijin added them to the game completely broken and then couldn't be bothered to fix it in 10 years. Inexcusable, especially after they added naval to the game.
Know this comment is a year old, but glad they finally added this. AP bombs now work as intended.
The R2Y2 V3 has an awesome fish kite skin on WT Live. Highly recommend it :)
I got these when they were at 7.0 with air spawn. They were pretty good. Then Gaijin did what you don't do. Double nerf. Removed the air spawn AND increased the BR. Now at 8.0 they are completely outclassed by everything.
I would agree the double nerf was a little bit too much, just removal of an air spawn would of been enough for me since my issue with the R2Y2s was their air spawn and what ever I used against them had a ground spawn or had an air spawn but was super slow (B-29). Now it’s just a shame that they are outclassed by everything
8:13 They have a low velocity if you use any belt that isn't the tracers. For some reason, those have an insane muzzle velocity of 920 m/s and they also hit harder and more consistently than most. Lovely work otherwise Tim!
Yeah i was very confused when he said that. I suppose if people are just starting to grind the aircraft they will notice the stock guns and belts are slow and inconsistent...but anyone this far into the japanese tree will know those 30mm tracers are super high velocity, super accurate, and absolutely hit like missiles.
They will RIP thru armor aswell, even tho the stats say otherwise. .you can EASILY smack any tank in Air RB with a single tap
I think he did point out how Tracer is the best belt to use at 3:24
the tracers surprisingly can kill bmps and other ifvs either hitting the atgm or hullbreak
and yeah confused when he said the gun was hard to use
when infact i get alot of 1km kills in the thing than any gun including the Vulcan
I’ll never get why people are just fine with Gaijin removing vehicles from the game. Surely it’d be better to just state that it’s fictitious to anyone who plays it instead of removing everyone hereafters ability to play it.
I am absolutely NOT ok with them removing vehicles, in this case specifically Japan has next to no unique aircraft past tier 4 and atleast these were a mature concept based on an upgrade to an existing aircraft, they're less fictitious than the E100
The Ki-201 or the Kikka Kai could be added in place of the R2Y2 V-2 and V-3. The Kikka Kai (both the Kikka and Kikka Kai would be better as attackers imo but oh well) was a more powerful naval based version of the Kikka, and the Ki-201 was a heavy attacker loosely based off on the Me-262 and was to be armed with 2x 20mm and 2x 30mm, same as the R2Ys. The Kikka Kai was built and tested so that could be a better alternative to the Ki-201, but frankly i think people who get snooty about prototypes and mockups being added can go pound sand.
I remember when these things had an air spawn and were a scourge in RB.
Use the J2M5 with tracers to grind these jets.
I don't mind fictional machines in WT, they add history, and as someone who enjoys vehicle games, I enjoy more vehicles. Besides tis a game, so fictional vehicles is fine not all of them are OP as some think they are.
I thinks that it's fine as long as it make sense and isn't totally fake.
I love that that first plane* you built in the KSSR run looked like an R2Y2
This thing used to have a bomb sight too, paired with its air spawn at 7.3 made it virtually untouchable if you flew it right.
Japan has next to no unique planes past rank 4, removing these would be criminal. Im perfectly fine with these being somewhat hypothetical.
From my experience flying the thing out back when it was 7.3 and just after it's nerf with the airspawn and BR increase, I could say at even 7.3 without an airspawn it was fairly well balanced as far as what it was going against and what it could do. Once it was moved to 7.7 it was getting a bit more of a stretch considering you could start facing things like the Sabres which practically outclass you in each meaningful way as well as some of the early MiG's as well which were nasty to deal with in an uptier, which was frequent. With it's new place at 8.0, a full BR ahead of where it had started, without an airspawn and with the expensive 16k repair cost spaded, it just makes me think, why?
The guns: Absolutely wonderful. The tracer velocity of 920m/s and nearly 60 grams of TNT filler per shell are just absolutely devastating to anything that it hits so long as it doesn't spark which, for the Type 5 cannons, is somewhat infrequent.
The handling: As mentioned by Tim himself, the roll rate, absolutely subpar. The turn rate is fairly decent, on part with the Meteor with some careful energy management, and the energy retention is pretty good considering it is a bus looking thing. However, 2 major caveats on this handling are: 1) The rudder acts like a nasty airbrake WHEN it engages, making the energy retention much worse if one isn't careful, and 2) The rudder also locks up first in a hive speed dive, making it harder to aim the guns when diving down onto a target.
Handling Cont: Again as mentioned, the engines aren't too bad on the thing and she can giddy up and go somewhat decently, on par at least with most of her 'starter' brethren as it were, however, top speed and upper acceleration, as mentioned in the video, are somewhat lacking. The engines also don't like going up above 4-5km altitude, and usually enjoy the thicker air to breath, similar to a lot of early jet engines. What the video touched on but didn't go into depths over is how the plane handles combat damage. The TL;DR is that, it doesn't. If the wing takes even light yellow levels of damage, the roll rate is somewhat cut down on an already abysmal roll, but if you fuselage gets damaged to even light-moderate yellow, you lose most of your acceleration, top speed, turning capacity, and energy retention. It is critical to avoid damage whenever possible, by any amount.
The bombs: As mentioned, take the blue bomb. That's it. No matter what, when taking a bomb, go blue. The brown bomb does not work. Plain and simple, it does not work in the game. They have said for years that they'd fix it, and make it work, especially when naval started to be introduced to the community as a whole out of the beta testing of it, but they haven't yet made it work as intended. Currently it is an 800kg bomb, with only ~30kg of tnt equivilent in it, making it worse than the Blue bomb in every capacity, and nearly useless entirely as it stands now.
TL;DR: Great video overall, though as far as the plane goes, it's sad to see it continuing to get the boot higher in the BR because of a spreadsheet, as well as the removal of it entirely as the 3 planes make up nearly half of Japan's Tier 5 planes as a whole. Fake or not, we need the filler for something, as boring, or papery as it is.
P.S. The Su-11 is just an overall better plane with objectively worse guns, a full BR lower, with better all around performance where it matters. Gaijin at work indeed.
Something about being able to say the bomb (singular) is so strange to me
Good thing I've already put a small amount of RP into this jet, so incase in the future they going to remove it, I still able to research it, for now I'm trying to research the J7W1 first and then Ki-84 line.
I dont have the v3, and haven't used the v1 in quite a while. I did enjoy it however, and I actually don't mind the guns lower rof.. and it has helped me use it, but my god are you a big target in this thing. I guess I better revisit and grab the others before it's too late as well.
I kinda wish the Ki-201 Fire Dragon couldve been added but oh well its still ablueprint. Albeit a more "grounded in reality" design. Its like a Japanese 262 for those wondering, like a ultimate kikka
I absolutely adore the Japanese 30s on the R2 series and earlier props. They're absolute railguns.
this thing would be great... except it got buffed to 8.0. which means it will almost always get uptiered to 8.7/9.0. this thing is good, but a fight against a sabre or a g91 is pretty one sided
Hey Tim, during the cockpit section of this review I think you should have mentioned that there is no rear cover for the pilot seat so it is very easy for the pilot to get knocked out. Pilot knockout makes up a much higher than normal percentage of deaths in these planes.
Hey thanks for the nice review and tips! They have been talking about removing them for a long time, but sounds more urgent than ever. I already got the first one, probably won't worry with the second. Unless there is a major difference? Also do you like to grind out stock planes' modules in AB? I might try that some.
The engine layout is different on all of them, also it isn't urgent, like with the Maus, Tiger II 105 and Panther II they will announce the removal way in advance.
The only reason you would want to get them is the free repair for another plane for that day you're playing them, other than that there's the collection value if you're a weeb.
They can be effective at grinding out the Rank 5-6 area of the Japanese tech tree because groundpounding and to some degree basebombing are good enough options for the R2-s. (those cannons get pretty awkward with light pillboxes though)
Their SL multipliers aren't horrible either as far as i remember and rank 5-s are great for the current event formats and they are fun planes as well you don't take seriously from the moment you look at them so it might be something you would pick up even after grinding out the tech tree.
It's definitely not a strong plane, this is a borderline meme plane with battle ratings currently on the increase.
If you're not interested in this type of plane you're probably not missing out though they have some potential for Ground RB since most people's first thought after seeing a plane is to turn with them.
Really underselling the guns here, four type 5's are not too be messed with
great video and information and I honestly do not know why these got bumped up to a 8.0 BR from the 7.3 or what ever it was 7.7 or something. But I have never honestly have gave high BR jets a go in arcade battles and it really doesn't even look to bad after what i use to see when I played low BR in Air arcade props i truly stopped playing that mode. I am going to try out high BR jets now that i seen this video. I bought these jets but never bothered to spade or start grinding them after buying them but good vid thanks.
The vast majority of air players switch to RB right around 8.0-9.0 , and this is about the highest I ever bother.
So i need to go and research this
I unlocked all 3 in the last couple months at 7.7 and got very good. I feel I contributed to the be change, the guns are so good I got a couple 8 kill games just from dumb enemies, the performance isn’t the best.
Okay sir i get it the blue bomb is better but please this is a Wendy's
They have this in the game. (Tiger ll(10.5cm) and panther ll sit smoking “ just you wait”)
Still there. All 3 are. If they remove them then Japan would have an incredibly easy grind to Top Tier. Kind of annoying though that it jumps from Tier 3 to Tier 5 for that line. Meaning that if you try to use the previous vehicle for the 110% bonus, you get a penalty instead for the R2Y2 being 2 tiers above.
The best looking one is hands down the V2 ngl, it's just so sleek looking
The wingroot intakes certainly are a nice look
The blue one?
I've been using this for awhile, and I've gotta say, it's an ok fighter, but DAMN can this little thing knock out ground targets likeit's nothing, before the air RB change to tanks, you could 1 tap mediums and heavys with the Tracer belts, cant do that now, but you can pop light pillboxes in a few shots. And those will add up your score REALLY fast.
Most games I'll have about 7-20 AI ground kills.
Do you think it's worth grinding them out before the next major update? or do you think they will be removed after
Gaijin will anouce if they are about to remove the R2Y2s. It was stated in a devblog that there isn't a replacement for them as of now, so I don't think they will be removed any day now.
As for is it worth to grind them, ABSOLUTELY. The R2Y2s are really fun, the choice to move them from 7.7-8.0 is wierd but it does not effect you too much. You can face 9.0s rarely, but 7.0 and 7.3 spam will keep dragging you down and get a lot of downtiers.
It is also not the worst grind. At least if you do like agile dog fighter. Since that is what you will have access to. I do find Japan has some excellent WWII planes. It is no armour, best armour philosophy for sure. But in general you want avoid get shot for sure no matter what you are flying.
@@ofekk213 appreciate the lengthy response! Currently am on rank 3 I’m going to try to grind them before the next update since I’m probably going to be focusing on other things since this update adds new top tier planes
@@Cythil yea a lot of their planes are impressive pretty insane that some can even out turn spitfires which is practically unheard of
@@0wen.985 Many Japanese aircraft are turnfighting gods and can really give Spits a run for their money.
They have some BnZ aircraft too.
Good reviews as usually, but you really dropped the ball on the cannons, the Japanese late 30's might be one of the best 30's in the game before Gatling guns become a thing
You don't like that paintjob? Personally, I've always loved that late-war bare metal look, with normal markings and a somewhat improvised camo pattern.
It looks to much like fish scales or something to me. I prefer the solid green on Japanese aircraft from that time period.
@@TimsVariety That's fair. I guess I would prefer just the bare metal look or the solid green, but I don't mind the camo. Definitely does look like a fish though.
you can one tap medium tanks with the tracers.
Just to clarify, I want to use the brown bomb right?
100%
Camo isn't great? It's one of my favourite camouflages in the game.
Low velocity? These guns got very very good velocity, yes the rate of fire is bad but the velocity is good. It is a headon god.
What!? Dude thank you for info, those f ing clowns, and what thy give in return? Some crap? I have v1 but now i want all
Next Yak15 plz
I got to keep power grinding for them. I'm so close but gaijin shitty tech tree system drives me nuts
I have almost everything in the japanese Aviation/Ground tree Need New Jets PLS!!
shame this thing got raised to 8.0
It will also probably get removed in the future bc it is fake
tbh it's not that bad, 6.7 barely exists as it is and 7.0 and 7.3 spam will still keep dragging you down in BR. The only bad thing is that now rarely you can face 9.0s, but you can still beat them if you play your cards correctly.
@@lior_theboom yes i know that, but it does not change that the R2Y2 is not a 8.0 jet
@@ofekk213 jets of that era should not ever be matched against AAM's even if they are fake jets
@@Cryo_Cake It's just AIM-9Bs, there isn't a single jet at 9.0 or lower that has any better missile (I think the Red Tops are worse. Yes they pull more G but their range is fucking abysmal). You have great manuverability, you can easily dodge those AIM-9Bs.
Only jet that actually has good missiles at 9.0, is the Sa'ar with the Shafrir 2s, but barely anyone plays that.
v2 has better roll rate btw
can't have jets in japan
i hate the BR and refuse to fly it, props and jets shouldn't mix
This thing really shouldn't be at 8.0, you just get uptiered 90% of the time to 8.7 and cant do anything
What’s better then 1 basically flying turd that is almost a fake jet , 3 of them and all carry the same load out 😂
That’s why I always lose a dogfight. ITS A UFO AND ISNT REAL!
R2Y2 is horrible in RB. :) but I like this one.
I'm not sure about the history, but the fakeness is disappointing. The UFO season was fun in a silly playful way but this thing, flying against planes that existed, just irks me. I understand WT is not DCS and all that stuff but still. I like WT for its "realism" sooo... Oh and it's a higher tier plane so it may cost real dollars to use which may pollute the balance
It was added when the game only had 4 factions and was WW2 focused. It gave the Japanese a jet fighter comparable to the Meteor/P-80/Me-262 etc. that they otherwise wouldn't have had. It made sense at the time but the game has moved on and it's probably for the best if they remove it now.