Powercrept Into The Moon - MiG-21 Lazur-M
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- Опубліковано 19 січ 2023
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Fuel: Full tank
Ammo: Air Targets
Load out: 4x R-60 Missiles + 2x R13M + Mixed
Convergence: 600 meters
Vertical Targeting: No
Crew: maxed (lvl 75) + expert
Outro: A.N.O. - Vanish
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This is one of the better premiums jets I've played with and honestly I've had a lot of fun.
It’s like a mig23ml but with better downtiers
YEAAA WOOOOOOO
I play it, even if I’m getting dominated I’m still having fun
do you think i should buy it? im not that great at dogfighting but in air rb i get 1 or 2 kills per game
@@rocrugamer3842 it depends, do you want speed or maneuverability, do you need to be able to dump speed or do you want to retain it, it all depends on how you fight, take it out on a test flight and see if you like it
I must say, the climbing above everyone then diving on them tactic really helped me with the F-5C. Look, back in the day when I started playing WT (2013) I literally did it for one reason only, to be able to fly the F86 in test flight. Back then I had no real money that I could spend on this game, I never got premium and I never got any premium planes. The experience sucked total ass. It would take me soooo long to just research a single plane, because I was playing arcade mode as I was 'scared' of RB. When I started playing again recently, I got me a premium plane (learned the ins and outs of dogfighting in this game) and when the sale happened this year I got the F-5C and premium account for 195 days total. The climbing above everyone and then diving on them with my Aim-9's actually works quite well, since people don't really expect you, so if you catch them off guard you get easy kills from the crappy missiles. I then usually dogfight a few people and usually I absolutely destroy them. The issue I had in the beginning is I would stay low with my team and just get obliterated by the wall of missiles from F14's and Mig23's and now even damn Tornados, or I would get 3rd and 4th partied in a dogfight. I think what the climbing really does for you is you aren't part of the initial onslaught / not many people see you. I went from like a 0.5 KD at best with the F-5C to around 2 or 3 per match now just because I climb at the start
Ok
Slam Dunkin' A-10's with the MiG-21SMT is how I grinded the 10th Anniversary event (and would have done in the winter event, hadn't my computer died).
People hate climbing cuz they're "scared" of radar missiles . Too bad they dont take the time to learn how to counter them
I absolutely hate playing the F5C against tornados, they will refuse to dog fight you and just out run you, gain position then rain radar missiles at you and never really engage. And its so frustrating as the only way to really kill a tornado is to let them get in your 6 and make them overshoot if you can even get them to engage in the first place. Ive had several games where its a 1v1 and the tornado will just run away until the timer expires hiding around their airfield
@@MrRobschnieder are you unironically complaining about the Kormoran missiles (among other things)?
you’ve quickly become one of my favorite channels, i’ve learned so much from you and enjoyed doing it. i never miss a video
Thank you for your work, I am a noob jet pilot who has never had a problem getting on someones ass, but my gunnery is terrible, watching you reminds me of when I went to my first professional baseball game, where I really saw what was truly capable, if you worked hard enough, I appreciate your reviews greatly, as it has helped me to sort out both planes I want, and what the enemy can do as well, I know what all the various props do, but your introspectives on jets have been invaluable thank you.
It's very hard to get R60M kills on people unless they are oblivious, a number of people when launching the longer range IR missiles assume you fired an R60 out if range and sometimes won't flair.
Yeah i much prefer r13m1
Just figured, you're having my music in your Outro! Love it mate, thanks for the support!
I don’t understand why people don’t talk about the stale state of air RB. It really needs a fresh overhaul. High tier is too chaotic to be enjoyable. Even if your team is doing well, I find myself 1 of 4 planes chasing the one poor jet until his certain death. My F16 gathers dust until there is something worth playing.
These vids are so quick now but still very entertaining to watch.
Shenyang F-5 is a good example of a powercrept premium
should be 9.0
I mean it is literally just a better MiG-17AS so it would make sense its at a higher BR.
@@Julio_Tortillia It’s fucking hilarious how soviets STILL don’t get a MiG-17F
@@Julio_Tortillia Yeah… and the Cuban Mig is better anyways because of that 9.0 battle rating. Less american missile trucks to deal with.
Is nobody going to mention thr harrier gr1? Absolutely no countermeasures against all aspect missiles, no RWR, piss flight performance except for acceleration and even the SRAAMs don’t do much against planes with 100+ flares each.
Great video mate. Keep up the good work
imagine hearing in the news that an F-16 got into a dogfight with a MiG-21 and lost the one circle fight.
MiG-21bis is a better one-circler in real life. You can look that up too. USAF evaluated the MiG-21's best strength is the 1-circle, can even get it's nose on an F-15. Any modern fighter will beat it in a 2 circle, because the MiG's wing has lots of induced drag which bleeds energy in a sustained turn.
Play the yak 15p
Also first
He’ll see it soon, keep it up!
Do not tell the Doof what to do
@@norway3062 how is it in Norway?
Holy shit its Norway
Two things. First, F-16A not being able to turn with a MiG-21bis, holy shit. More importantly, keep in mind that Germany will likely get their own MiG-29A, so grinding with this may be useful.
fuel. r2b in top tier massive disadvantage most cases.
@@runningamok2825 what rtb? you can have 34 minutes of fuel, most high br air rb matches are over under 10 minutes.
F16 smokes a mig 21 under like 7-800kph but the G limiter is a bitch above that
Bro had too much fuel and he was cutting inside him. If the F16 decided to take more time he would have ran him out of fuel
He also dumped too much speed for a rate fight, F-16 rates super well around 350 mph and should absolutely stomp on everything else in a rate fight.
11:40 very cinematic
That F16 looked pissed lmao
Just picked mine up to grind for german tornado and the mig 29.
Having a blast with it, the r60mk is a great missle. It fixed the main problem with the mig 21 and it's that it needed faster/better missles.
It slaughters F4s and tomcats if your smart
So it’s good for grinding the German tech tree ?
@@Wandhydranttdon’t buy a $70 MiG-21. Just get some prem time or something and talisman the MiG-23MLA
@@Attack_The_D_Point I am already finished with the German tech tree by now. By a miracle, I actually got the Mig-23 talisman out of a battle trophy! I think the snail rewarded me for the grind…
R-13M1 are kinda underrated imo, I wish more planes had them, or the earlier R-13M
Thank u❤
Damm last kill was just epic
Honey wake up DEFYN just posted !!
I think it's worth getting it now with the MiG-29 and MiG-29G
We are soon getting 12.0 so 11.0 is going to get more sucked down than up leaving the lazur M in a sweet spot
Lol, that didn’t age well
@@CHILLCASTER nope, this thing can't compete. This thing is a piece of shit for it's br.
Yeah this never happens. I spaded the bis-SAU and got 12.0 85% of the time.
Man, how many hours do you have in realistic air battles? that's crazy, you're so good, I declare you the best pilot in the world with any plane. Postscrip: i love you
10:17 he probably went for the ai because he thought you were going to crash into the ground
LETS GOOOOOOOOOOOO
Nice viedeo, i would love to see you play the cl13 sabre mk 6
This update is the biggest power creep in awhile
I've found that the mig 23 ml players don't dodge the missiles in a Headon, the sky flash makes them easy targets
I want to see you play DCS would be interesting.
Man I love this jet tbh and I dont have an issue what so ever bringing a full tank of fuel honestly, I mean it probably has gotten me killed a time or 2 but I normally end up with atleast 1 kill a match most of the time atleast 2 so its whatever I'm making money and not losing it
”And welcome back” is among the shortest intros in the YT world. Btw, try listening on 75% speed, then he sounds more or less normal 😂
It's so beautiful tho
defyn lowkey goated af
You should play the MiG-17AS. I used it to grind for MiG-29 and dang is it good. Easily printed out 1 mil SL per hour without even tryharding, just casual playing.
I did that with the israeli A-4E grinding the F-16 netz
It's perma-uptiered to su25 and a10 tier now...
@@thelordofcringeits terrible now with the uptiers
@@alphacentaurivenus8037 so it's still terrible
Germany should get the Mig-29 as they HAD irl
It's funny how you are weping constantly, as Mig21 had to be very careful with afterburners, to prevent melting the engine
what is your oppinon on the latest br changes?
gg
You think you could do more prop game play?
I think you should play props at high tier, would make for an interesting video
Mig 21 becomes a ufo on low fuel because its thrust to weight ratio actually becomes 1:1
So would you agree it’s better that it has stayed at 11.0
Rip underskilled f16
can you please do a video on the lf mk ix
i have seen the Skill issue decal in the wild... on a PTW Su-25K loaded for Air to Air... I give up on this community.
@DEFYN how is that German F-4F Early these days just wondering if I made the right choice in selling the thing for over a hundred GJN ? Also thanks for the video and for helping me decide that there is no damn way I am going to drop 70 bucks on a damn rank 7 jet that is basically a copy paste from rank 6 well appreciated from your YT vids. Oh and my wallet.
Made the right choice... no flares means absolute dogshit
I own the F-4F early (grinded it back in 2021 and kept it) and I'd definitely much rather have the 100 GJN. No countermeasures at 10.3 especially in something as hot and heavy as a Phantom is a death sentence nowadays, and all you get out of it is only four AIM-9J's - very mid missiles
@@niggalini Thanks I kind of figured the thing was gonna end up kind of on the junk list after the news broke out about the rank 8 coming to Air-tech trees. But that message backed up what I was thinking cause that thing at 10.3 and as heavy and no all aspect AAM's and no ECM's that thing was gonna just be a FAT boy target and never mind its in the german tech tree. But good looks well appreciated.
@@farmcat9873 For sure, glad you made the right choice. It was fun back then, when 10.7 BR was the top tier with MiG-21bis versus F-4E, but after that it's all gone downhill for the German Phantom
This thing is public enemy #1 for a10 early players
Do you come from the Netherlands?
the video is great but my parents are fighting
Sad J7D noises
i hope they find something to acualy fill the german air tech tree bc irl its a bit empty
just phantoms tornados and a mig 29
and then the euro fighter
I was going to suggest bribing some politicians to buy some F-35s, but I guess they’ve already got some on order. Oh well, there’s always the Haunebu II.
@@Tom-jw7ii 'yo german politican guy can you please buy some f15's f16's f18's f22's f35's we need warthunder content'
they could propably use the belgian f16 some stuff from denmaker netherlands you know just take stuff from the general region
pleaaassse can you do a video on the mig-19s germany ? i can't get a kill with this
Bearcat F8F-1B gameplay please!!
Im playing on ps5 and i cant fire a AA missile, it locks the enemy but i cant fire a missile? Help please 🤗 p.s is t normal in war thunder your aircraft bobbles a lot ( its almost not possible to even fly straight lol i own the mig 21 on DCS and there my mig fly perfect straight and when i turn it dont wobble all directions but in war thunder the mig wobbles like crazy why?
Crazy that they’re uptiering the Italian F-104S’s to 11.0 when they’re not nearly as good as this mig-21 which deserves to be at 11.0
The F-104s are going up because they have CMs which negates the F-104’s biggest weakness in its playstyle: dealing with good missiles.
@@kommandantkillcode Notching SARH in F-104s is a pain
@@musela97 Not gonna deny that, but it’s mainly due to the RWR being weird. I’m able to notch F-16s with the Jaguar E despite not having RWR though, so I think it should be possible for a 104 with CMs to do the same, even though difficult. At least you don’t have to fight the F-16s and MiG-29s all the time.
Can you play the F8F-1? I have been playing It and im enjoying lately at 5.0.
It’s hella nasty at that low of a br
@@dakotahondalock5621 yep, that thing is absolutely insane at 5.0, especially with the 1B not been that great(Overtiered+AN/M3 nerf).
I will when i have time to
@@DEFYN hey i would apreciate a new video about sea vixen. It`s missles are significantly better at high altitude and with the good climb rate you can make use of it. I got some crazy 4km red top kills on some climbing f86`s and g 91 etc..
how about the f4u 4b with its new FM change? It climbs very well now but it compresses a lot at high speed and can't lose energy at all to reverse people, also it starts flatspinning on stalls and won't recover using full real control if you have a yellow wingtip.
So if its just a bis...how is it a powercreep? What changes?
Do you understand what powercreep means? It’s powercreeped because of the other things that get added like the F-14, F-16, MiG-29, etc. especially because it has no long range all aspect missiles.
oh nvm I see what you mean, he’s not calling it powercreep, he’s calling it powercreeped
Would love to see you duel jblack in bi lol
Could you play F4E?
To da m o o n
By the time Defyn covers the EJ ADTW it might be flyable, dare I say, competive O.O
Probably tomorrow
Come on DEFYN! CALL IT A LASER-M!
Worst thing they did was raise it to 11.3 now it's borderline unplayable.
it is easy to dogfight a tomcat in the mig21 or not ?
It is not, you just run out of energy
Mig21sau its rhe same plane with lazum i mean about ability's?
yep
@@Texas_Engineer_Mike thank you
and i think those big flare pod on sau doesn't affect it's performance
@@rxzxqx6982 it does but in the same way as integrated flare dispencers
Play the MiG-21 F-13
BR changes should decompress this MM a lot I think. a lot a lot. lol
The f16, f14 and mig 29 need to be 12.0.
they will be soon.
literally announced yesterday...
@@runningamok2825 I didn't see that. Thank God.
Oh nothing I can't handle. I have the su-22 M3 💀💀😨😨😭😭
so I am not the only one having problems with the Gsh-23 its been real weak lately
mig guns are bad in general now, nr30s slap but got their velocity reduced once again (first was when all tracer belts was added)
technically it should have a lead indicator buuuuuuuut gaijin seems to be very scared to add those back, for some reason
huh? MiG-21 with lead indicator? Never heard of that. J-7 sure, it has HUD but MiG-21 had only gyro sight.
@@Texas_Engineer_Mike "Lazur-M" is an automatic leading system
@@grum__1 yeah and it's for landing
@@grum__1 sorry I misstook it from SAU but anyway... Lazur-M doesn't give it's pilot any lead indicator. That system connects to ground radars and sets the plane on intercept course with the target.
The strategy I’ve found for this plane is to take 4xR60MKs with 2 ZB-500 bombs and enough fuel to leave full afterburners for more than half the match. Basically just take off, stay below 150 meters and sprint for the nearest base. Once you drop your bombs, you zoom away and support your teammates (if they’ve already killed everyone then just kill some AI). If you want to just fight air targets, 2xR13M1 and 4xR60MK works well (but it’s pretty easy to get outclassed when the entire team is F14s and F16s and you have a single 29, with your whole team dying within a minute).
Personally I prefer taking the bombs and hitting a base because the amount of sl you lose gets insane after a few matches of getting 7v1ed since your whole team flew straight at the enemy like smooth brains.
Killing AI is better than taking bases
@@truta3715 In most circumstances that would be the case, but the Lazur M is in an odd spot BR wise. Since it’s 11.0 it will be matched against 11.7 and 12.0 in 90% of matches. Because of this, it can be almost suicidal to try and kill the AI targets (which are CL-13s like half the time so they’re worthless anyways). The only reason I choose to take the ZB’s is to rekindle SOME amount of sl and not go completely negative. In a lot of matches it’s almost impossible to get kills because either your team claps the enemies before you can engage, or your team gets clapped and you’re left in a 1v8 against 4th gens.
yeah, now fly it stock
doof pls play J5N1 to make a recap on target priority and object permanence, flying that shit cured my ADHD
Why R-13 missiles?
longer range
Superior range to the R-60s, and less vulnerable to flares
@@niggalini R-60s still have the acceleration to catch people off guard so I ussualy just take 6x R-60MKs. They also work really great in headons against the F-14s because of how hot they are, even if they are flaring.
@@Julio_Tortillia that is true, completely forgot the MiG-21bis now has all-aspects rather than just the rear-aspects
Blind Hunt was one second away from switching to the F-16 when Defyn killed him...
iar 81 c
please :)
Play the swedish b239 pls
I hate ppl like that f-16 guy,he got beat and still trying to shoot u with his guns and missles
I'm going to play the "noob" here for once, but what the fuck is going on with SARHs at top tier? I can avoid most of them no problem, but sometimes it seems that even if you pull the textbook "notching+chaff" on the damn thing, the missile still doesn't give a fuck. What's the big idea?
notch window for radars of F-14, MiG-29, F-16 and Mirage 2000 was narrowed
Chaff doesn't do much against PD radar, next time try to go as low as you can, radars go weird when you go low
@@Texas_Engineer_Mike that explains a lot. It's kinda bull tbh..
Play the yak3
Wow I haven't heard someone use the word Chode in a while lol
Play the MiG 3 lol
Actually the Mig 21 bis doesnt have the big countermeasure dongle, the smt is the only one with it in game 🤓
MF, bis-SAU, SPS-K left the chat
mf, bis sau, sps k join the chat
Surprising how fast the lazur turns with low fuel. That f-16 was going way too slow though.. f-16 FM at very low speeds right now is trash. He could have just accelerated away and Defyn wouldn't have been able to do anything with the trash r-60mks. One flare is all it takes per missile and F-16 has way more acceleration. Get some distance, turn back in and force the headon, which f-16 always wins due to the sparrows. After that, it's just a sparrow/9l lottery - if Defyn manages to dodge all of the missiles, again, f-16 can just burn out and rearm. Just a very poor (or lazy) pilot on the other end.
Day 2 of asking for a P51D30 video the last time you made a video about it was 2 years ago. I lov u DEFYN!!!
Its pretty much identical to the other P51-D variants.
@@dosidicusgigas1376 in the video he says that he has made a lot of videos about the Mig21 so I don’t think he has a problem making a video about almost identical aircraft.
"I don't see how anyone could say war thunder is copy and paste." 63 Mig 21's later....
Cope lol
2nd
lol
FISHBEDD
First
Roses are red
Lemons have a funny taste
The MiG-21bis Lazur-M is a copy and paste
Without a shadow of a doubt the single biggest piece of shit I've collected in War Thunder. Don't waste your money, it's trash.
Gaijin needs to stop rewarding fighters for bombing in air rb. I've had 10 games with 3+ premium mig 23s arguing over who gets what base. Only won 2 out of the 10 because my team would have 3 fighters base rushing directly into f-14/16s without even trying to dodge. The same ppl would then turn around and cry about US planes being overpowered and how it's impossible to grind despite having a $70 rank 7.
Base bombing is a very crucial part for grinding stock fighters. Thats how I grinded mods for F-16A and it is by far just the fastest method, so it shouldnt be nerfed. Problem is with players that just go 500 m in the air and try to outrun pheonixes just to try bombing a base. This is truly just a skill issue on the player part. I had no problems bombing bases in my F-16A even against US teams. People just have to learn how to dodge Fox-1s and Fox-3s by just hugging the ground and watching out for the occasional Fox-2.
@@Julio_Tortillia these are premium fighters not TT they refuse to take missiles
@@jblakemore Im still fine with base bombing if theyre premiums as long as after they bomb they return to air to air duties. Too many people just turn into a dedicated bomber.
bro shut up, bombing already gives terrible rewards
@@PrintScreen. then why do ppl throw games and xp away to bomb in a prem
Day 1 of asking for Harrier FRS1