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  • Опубліковано 25 жов 2024

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  • @ludington2242
    @ludington2242 2 роки тому +13

    "You are already dead" is hilarious. Fav card from the set so far. "Nani?"

    • @EmperorPylades
      @EmperorPylades 2 роки тому +11

      I am very disappointed that the flavour text wasn't "What?"

  • @AggressiveLemur
    @AggressiveLemur 2 роки тому +51

    Junji says a graveyard, not your graveyard. Even better than you thought.

    • @saldiven2009
      @saldiven2009 2 роки тому +4

      I was going to say the exact same thing.

    • @nicksheehan8777
      @nicksheehan8777 2 роки тому +1

      It’s a great card but I do think he rated it a little high. Even with the ability to hit both graveyards I think it’s an A, not A+.

    • @virtueofabsolution7641
      @virtueofabsolution7641 2 роки тому

      It’s an A not A+.
      Edit mostly because the backup ability is so weak.I mean it’s an a+ if your opponent has two cards or if you have a good creature in your gy. But what if neither is true ?

    • @AggressiveLemur
      @AggressiveLemur 2 роки тому +3

      @@virtueofabsolution7641 I cannot imagine it's a frequent board state where there are no non-dragon creatures in either graveyard and your opponent is at high life and not hellbent.
      In that scenario it's a 1-1 where your opponent lost two life. Any other situation it's a 1-2 or 1-3.but generally speaking a limited deck should be like ..15ish creatures. At the point where you are casting Junji some dudes should have died on both sides. Pick the best non dragon out of either pile.

    • @virtueofabsolution7641
      @virtueofabsolution7641 2 роки тому

      @@AggressiveLemur okay? The thing is an A+ is widely considered to be a card that wins the game all on its own even from behind. A simple 2 for 1 doesn’t really do that. Like compare this to Tetzimoc the dragon that kills all its previous targets as it comes down. While a huge flying beater that dies into a resurrection is strong I wouldnt say it wins the game on its own.
      Then again we are quibbling over whether a rare that most of us may never actually play is an A or A+. Maybe not the best use of time.

  • @Kradolpher
    @Kradolpher 2 роки тому +18

    Biting palm ninja also has the upside of being modified with its menace counter

    • @Waffletigercat
      @Waffletigercat 2 роки тому +3

      @Derek Cline Unfortunately, Gruul is the color pair that cares the most about modified in this set. But black does have a couple of modify matters cards.

  • @LinkThinks
    @LinkThinks 2 роки тому +19

    Thanks for pushing back my sleep schedule this week, Nizzahon! Appreciate all your hard work.

  • @nlb137
    @nlb137 2 роки тому +7

    The shrine also has some sorta self-synergy going on; being able to pick of X/1s or X/2s makes it's deathtouch ability more relevant because it makes it so if you need to trade, it's more likely that the creatures the other player has left will be big things you'll want deathtouch for.

  • @MrQlzqlzuup
    @MrQlzqlzuup 2 роки тому +27

    Echo of Death's wail also has an unfortunate downside of enabling every single enemy ninjutsu card for 2 turns, unless you have a 0/x blocker or are willing to kill off the rats.

    • @thegamesx0
      @thegamesx0 2 роки тому

      The UB ninjitsu archetype also has a good number of rats, so you may end up taking control of some of those cards if they use the tokens to ninjitsu.

    • @slendyspy2675
      @slendyspy2675 2 роки тому +5

      @@thegamesx0 Echo of Death's Wail only gains control of Rat TOKENS. Can't take control of opposing rat cards.

    • @slendyspy2675
      @slendyspy2675 2 роки тому

      @Derek Cline That's a surprisingly good strategy.

    • @thegamesx0
      @thegamesx0 2 роки тому

      @@slendyspy2675 Oh, you're right. Thanks for correcting me, it would have been terrible to discover my mistake while drafting lol

    • @slendyspy2675
      @slendyspy2675 2 роки тому +1

      @@thegamesx0 It happens to everybody, I've been victim to failing to read the card during my draft hype.

  • @troythewizard9940
    @troythewizard9940 2 роки тому +4

    "Chainflail Centipede" just fueled my next nightmare by the name alone, thx

  • @Et111thompson
    @Et111thompson 2 роки тому +2

    You are already dead looks stronger then you have it credit for. Letting creatures through in combat is way riskier in this set because of the ninjutsu mechanic, so being able to chump block and come out even on cards for 1b seems really appealing.

  • @soprettymuchthatsthewayitis
    @soprettymuchthatsthewayitis 2 роки тому +15

    I like you are already dead because it synergises well with ninjutsu because you can attack in with some 1/1 guy or maybe someone with a big butt, and if they block to stop you from using ninjutsu, then you can trade your creature up, but if they don't block because they're scared of a combat trick, then you get to ninjutsu in for value.

    • @sir_wffles
      @sir_wffles 2 роки тому +3

      Also that you can shout THAT line at the same time you cast it.

  • @nickbalmes6640
    @nickbalmes6640 2 роки тому +2

    Junji is actually even better since you can reanimate from ANY graveyard not just your own! Like if it trades for something large enough in combat and you get that same creature back with his death trigger is pretty bonkers 😆

  • @bluedestiny2710
    @bluedestiny2710 2 роки тому +3

    I cant help but think that "You are already dead" is a reference to the meme "Omai wa mo shindeiru" followed by the surprised "nani?!?!?" XD
    I mean, that is literally what it means, followed by the art and the flavor text XD

    • @schlockfather
      @schlockfather 2 роки тому +2

      It's definitely a Fist of the North Star reference.

    • @tamalock
      @tamalock 2 роки тому

      Exactly what I was thinking

  • @nlb137
    @nlb137 2 роки тому +1

    You can also protect Twisted Embrace from getting blown out by using it on a vehicle or equipped reconfigure creature; they won't be creatures (so harder to destroy in response) but can go back to being creatures later to still use the +1/+1

  • @sgjuxta
    @sgjuxta 2 роки тому +6

    Not saying this is necessarily a *good* strategy, but the best case I can think with Enormous Energy Blade is that you equip it to something cheap that becomes scary with +4/+0, next turn swing with it, your opponent trades off, and you move it to a new creature after combat, and repeat. I can see potential board states where this could snowball heavily if you're ahead and you start stuffing your opponent in The Abyss every turn. I am kinda sad there's no sneaky instant-speed equip effects in this set to combo with it though. A card like Sigarda's Aid would have been cool to see as a potential build around.

    • @stuflames4769
      @stuflames4769 2 роки тому

      "target creature you control".
      You cannot equip things to an opponent's creatures.

    • @XYBeautiful
      @XYBeautiful 2 роки тому

      @@danielmulter4951 Can't equip your opponent's creatures.

  • @justinbrett1227
    @justinbrett1227 2 роки тому +1

    You can also bounce Okiba Reckoner Raid once it's a creature and get the two pings from the Saga all over again, which even if you only do it once will probably matter a lot.

  • @TetsuRiken
    @TetsuRiken 2 роки тому +3

    You are already dead! Hahahahahahahaha love it favorite card so far if only because of the reference

  • @geefron
    @geefron 2 роки тому

    Great reviews as always Nizzahon. Just noticed how perfect the intro music is for this set!

  • @Hundo_Mo
    @Hundo_Mo 2 роки тому +2

    Junji is the card I am most excited to play with. It seems like such a powerhouse. Its Grade is DEFINITELY on par with what I was expecting

  • @Redpoppy80
    @Redpoppy80 2 роки тому +2

    How fitting that the last card reviewed is the meme card and it's not trash to boot.

  • @andrewmakar2035
    @andrewmakar2035 2 роки тому +1

    I think several cards really depend on how good ninjistu stuff is. You Are Already Dead works well with Ninjistu if you attack with a creature where you know one will be blocked yet the other will be ninja'd away. Suddenly your decoy is lethal. The same trick often goes for Return to Action. Ninjitsu also synergizes with ETB creatures, upping the value of Virus Beetle, Gloomshrieker (which has menace) and several more effects.
    Also Okiba Salvage depends on the quality of channel effects, because Channel can load your graveyard up with creatures that give it a target and satisfy one half to the requirement for the counter. In theory, a turn 1-2 artifact, turn 3 channel greater tanuki, turn 4, 8/7 Trample is feasible.

  • @jud6ment
    @jud6ment 2 роки тому +1

    25:50, i would say C, it can make the cut. I think this is going to be a prince draft and getting bombs out of hand will feel good. Pumping your creature feels much more efficient when you know your opponent can do nothing. I like the two effects together as a one of in deck

  • @boots4snootin571
    @boots4snootin571 2 роки тому +1

    Hey nizza! You ever thought about doing all commons first, then uncommons then rares? Seems like it would be more easily comprehensible

  • @samuelrussell5760
    @samuelrussell5760 2 роки тому +1

    I think the Jitte is clouding your judgment on Life of Toshiro Umezawa. The Jitte effects are good because you can use them at instant speed and stack them as needed. If the -1/-1 can kill something it will feel good. Otherwise, you get through for a few points of damage with the pump or gain some life and neither of those will feel super exciting. And the 2/3 with an ability you often won’t use is nothing to get worked up about. I’d usually feel bad about first picking this. It’s playable, but B is too high.

    • @NizzahonMagic
      @NizzahonMagic  2 роки тому +1

      I think you are underestimating how good +2/+2 is two turns in a row. It isn't just that it gets through a few damage, it allows you to attack more effectively on virtually any board, really helping you in a race. So yes, the boost seems small, but making your 3/3 attack on a board where it couldn't before is much bigger than just a few points of damage.

    • @samuelrussell5760
      @samuelrussell5760 2 роки тому

      Could be. I guess this card hinges on how good +2/+2 is on the average board. If it is consistently swinging things, then this could be a B.

  • @stepniak18
    @stepniak18 2 роки тому +1

    'You are already dead' is the best in decks with lot's of Mance because you are likely to kill one creature in combat and finish off the other creature that blocked, and in BR decks with cheap damaging spells as you don't 2 for 1 yourself using double removal on a single target.

  • @McD_James
    @McD_James 2 роки тому +3

    Hope you're doing well, Nizzahon.

  • @hyousai
    @hyousai 2 роки тому +2

    I love Tatsunari for commander, but in limited I think you definitely need more than one enchantment in your deck to make him worth it. If my understanding of the rules is correct, you can’t use the evasion ability without a frog to target. As such, without at least a few enchantments, he’s likely to be a vanilla 3/3 for 2B. Not an awful statline, but nothing impressive.

    • @fidly4
      @fidly4 2 роки тому +2

      A few enchantments or a lot of "papercraft decoy"!

    • @NizzahonMagic
      @NizzahonMagic  2 роки тому +3

      I mean, yeah you need more than one to make him good, but my point was that he is a 3 mana 3/3, so it isn't a disaster.

  • @RafaelAAMerlo
    @RafaelAAMerlo 2 роки тому

    Awesome review!
    I think Tatsunari falls into the A range because the triggered frog creation is recursive. You can every single time you'd cast an enchantment press damage with it (even possibly to the face for one mana), then sacrifice it for value, then create a new untapped one. It's buildaround-ish, but I see the enchantment theme and some aristocrat payoffs strong enough in Black to consider it reshapes the board enough like a bomb does :P

    • @NizzahonMagic
      @NizzahonMagic  2 роки тому +1

      Yeah, at this early stage in the format I feel like all the things that I dinged a little bit for needing Enchantments/Artifacts are a lot easier to make work than I expected -- and I thought it would be pretty easy!

    • @RafaelAAMerlo
      @RafaelAAMerlo 2 роки тому

      @@NizzahonMagic That's very fair for new "mechanics" in new sets (like Blood in the past one). You still did an awesome job :D

  • @nocapsrage
    @nocapsrage 2 роки тому

    The problem with blade of the oni is that as an x1 creature it’s really vulnerable. There’s quite a bit in this set that can deal with an x1, so i think getting that dream of reconfiguring over and over again may be hard, especially because you can only reconfigure as a sorcery. Feel like a lot of the time it’ll get killed in response to a reconfigure and then you’ll be down 4 mana and a creature

  • @slendyspy2675
    @slendyspy2675 2 роки тому

    Black has a lot of interesting removal this set, I have my eyes on "You Are Already Dead". It's a card that guarantees a trade and tacks on a nice cantrip for the cost.
    If you have a first-strike creature, it's going to feel like one of the best combat tricks in the game for the low cost of one mana.
    The Long Reach of Night, to me, looks like a first-pickable card. It reads like a late-game edict effect that has an opp make difficult choices that can put you ahead. Early on, it still forces the opponent to sacrifice resources to give you an edge. It is an interesting saga, and helps provide a relevant body that scales as the game goes on. I can imagine scenarios where it is 4 mana, 5 or more power menace threat by the time it transforms. Especially by turn 6.

  • @megatenshi
    @megatenshi 2 роки тому

    Black looks so fun this set. Super excited to try it out

  • @marcocito9269
    @marcocito9269 2 роки тому

    It seems like WoC had a lot of fun sneaking in here and there pop culture references. Biting palm ninja is Deidara from Naruto.

  • @profozpin227
    @profozpin227 2 роки тому +1

    Junji says A graveyard. Not necessarily YOURS. I think it's a pretty damn good black card.

  • @Mil89GR
    @Mil89GR 2 роки тому

    Many thanks for the video Niza! Black looks fun in this format - it can be combined with white ,blue and red. I would like to see how these combos will pay out in draft when the set will come out

  • @therealHLY
    @therealHLY 2 роки тому +1

    tribute to hirobi feels like it's just going to enable all of your opponents Ninjutsu triggers, since your now in a catch 22 with it. if you block and kill those rats, then playing the saga becomes a lot less valuable, since your getting a 3/3 and had to occupy your blockers for a long while. if you don't block those rats your giving your opponents ninjas free access to your face
    like if you know your playing against the samurai deck or know your opponents not got any ninjas then it gets more value, but since most colours in neon dynasty are using ninjutsu even if one as a backup part of the design, it feels like a massive risk to mainboard in this format

    • @NizzahonMagic
      @NizzahonMagic  2 роки тому +1

      I think that if you are worried about ninjutsu you can probably block them pretty easily. But you're right, that is something that may hurt the card.

  • @virtueofabsolution7641
    @virtueofabsolution7641 2 роки тому +1

    Wow. I think this might be the first time I’ve ever disagreed with your rating as an *overrating* in leech gauntlet. A 2/2 lifelink is fine, a C. Adding living weapon for 4 makes it a c+.the only reason I say anything is because there is a HUGE difference between c+ and b- and I don’t think this bridges the gap. It’s nice but this is basically just *lifelink* and while that can turn a damage race it definitely doesn’t turn a resource race.
    Similarly I think your rating of Life of Toshiro umezawa is overrated. The buff and minus effect is nice but like I pointed out in the blue/white review (as well as the mtggoldfish review) I find this mix of offensive value to be incongruous with the slow nature of the sagas themselves not having haste and being in general pretty slow.

  • @pepijnwarmerdam8784
    @pepijnwarmerdam8784 2 роки тому +1

    I'm thinking that ninjutsu and modify work poorly together and might weaken certain colours or colour pairs.
    I wonder how it will play out in drafts.

    • @Waffletigercat
      @Waffletigercat 2 роки тому +2

      Well fortunately in that regard, most of the ninjutsu is in Dimir while most of the modify matters is in Gruul (though admittedly there is a bit of each in other colors). However, I kinda feel like ninjutsu is gonna be underwhelming in limited because you'll mostly be relying on fliers to get your ninjutsu triggers and this set has TONS of flying and reach.

  • @tomscud
    @tomscud 2 роки тому +1

    24:50 I guess Okiba Salvage is the card where either I'm wrong or literally all the previewers are wrong (lim resources and LoL are also both down on it) - I think this is going to be the best this effect has been since Ikoria, and for basically the same reason - there are a bunch of big creatures that can put themselves in the graveyard while getting value, so this can pretty often be a 5/7 ward 3 or 6/5 ward 2 flyer on turn 5. Not an A or anything but C+ to B-.

  • @NicerDicerSmart
    @NicerDicerSmart 2 роки тому

    23:54 that's an Akira reference if I've ever seen one

  • @jdogx211
    @jdogx211 2 роки тому

    PLANAR BRIDGE!?!?!?!?!?
    😨😱🤯😵😰😓
    So, after Kalindesh, Tezzeret jumped into he's Looking Glass and wound in an episode of Ghost in the Shell.

  • @jazzfestyz9734
    @jazzfestyz9734 2 роки тому

    Black seems quite strong so far

  • @zayneowen4427
    @zayneowen4427 2 роки тому

    Junji says a graveyard not your graveyard so it's the best card in graveyards period

  • @danielmcarthur8169
    @danielmcarthur8169 2 роки тому +3

    There should have been a card called " all with nothingness" one black phyreian mana. You and your opponent both discard their hand

    • @elizacogen711
      @elizacogen711 2 роки тому +3

      incredibly busted card. imagine that with tergrid in standard

    • @danielmcarthur8169
      @danielmcarthur8169 2 роки тому +1

      @@elizacogen711 would you accept both players exiling thier hands instead?

    • @elizacogen711
      @elizacogen711 2 роки тому +1

      ​@@danielmcarthur8169 for 2 life that'd still break the game imo. an aggro deck could empty their hand, completely disregarding the concept of card advantage and then put the other player on the same foot as them

    • @danielmcarthur8169
      @danielmcarthur8169 2 роки тому

      @@elizacogen711 but that's the meme...a version of one with nothingness needs to be great.

    • @fmtpulmanns7593
      @fmtpulmanns7593 2 роки тому

      That card is busted. Possibly not in standard, but it'd break legacy, probably vintage and modern as well.

  • @ddd09ish1
    @ddd09ish1 2 роки тому

    Enormous energy blade has STYLE tho lol

  • @HighlightHouse07
    @HighlightHouse07 2 роки тому

    I think black is the best colour for limited

  • @bluemage1
    @bluemage1 2 роки тому

    Kami of Restless Shadows F+. Even if every other card would be a Ninja or Rogue, this card is just to bad. You should just play a basic Land over it.
    Dokuchi Shadow Walker B-. High pick as a really good finisher. 4 mana and returning a creature to put a creature into play which immedatly deals 5 damage can be game winning.

    • @NizzahonMagic
      @NizzahonMagic  2 роки тому

      Interesting takes there. A 5 mana 3/3 that returns a creature to your hand will never, ever be an F. It is definitely an F without enough ninjas, though.
      For Shadow Walker, I think you are vastly overrating how good it is to ninjutsu it into play. Sure, it does five and you pay 4, but only if you set up Ninjutsu, and even then the deal you are getting is hampered by returning a creature to your hand. You will play it if you have lots of good ways to enable ninjutsu and/or other ninja payoffs, but that's it.

    • @NemisCassander
      @NemisCassander 2 роки тому

      @@NizzahonMagic I have to agree with Noah and disagree with you. Dokuchi Shadow-Walker you will _always_ play at least one of. I think the important part is not that you get a 5/5 for 4 + bouncing a creature, it's that barring instant removal it's a guaranteed 5 damage that leaves a 5/5 behind. Sure, it needs setup, but so do _all_ Ninjutsu abilities.

  • @davidlauritzen923
    @davidlauritzen923 2 роки тому

    Black looks better than white or blue so far.

  • @Waffletigercat
    @Waffletigercat 2 роки тому

    I don't understand the flavor of Dockside Chef. The art looks like he's feeding spirits. But a chef who sacrifices something to draw something seems like he's cooking one thing to make another thing. Like IDK, just seems weird flavor to me.

    • @NizzahonMagic
      @NizzahonMagic  2 роки тому +1

      I think its awkward to create "chef" cards in any format without Food too, since that's such an obvious flavor thing.

  • @0whatman
    @0whatman 2 роки тому

    "omaewa mo shindeiru" is a card now lmfao nice

  • @ofdgaming2351
    @ofdgaming2351 2 роки тому

    To confirm, invoke despair is an “F” right? Am I missing something, 1BBBB for an edict most the time are you kidding?

    • @NizzahonMagic
      @NizzahonMagic  2 роки тому +1

      It edicts multiple things, it definitely isn't an F

    • @ofdgaming2351
      @ofdgaming2351 2 роки тому

      @@NizzahonMagic I’ve just established that you get the draw if the enchantment and the planes Walker fails too? In that case it’s kind of 1BBBB edict a creature, draw 2 which is a decent card! Making 4 of one colour in limited is so rough though! Thanks for the reply, your confidence allowed me to find what I was missing at first.

  • @armageddon28
    @armageddon28 2 роки тому

    Clawing Torment seems like a terrible card. Especially with so many creatures with ninjutsu. If you don't have a way to block the enchanted creature they'll bounce the creature back to their hand and get rid of the enchantment. I think the only value it might have is to remove X/1 creatures but even that doesn't seem that great

  • @autobotjazz1972
    @autobotjazz1972 2 роки тому +1

    33:19 NANI?

  • @zackyferret
    @zackyferret 2 роки тому

    Rakdos artifacts looks nasty

  • @faerie7dragon
    @faerie7dragon 2 роки тому

    Nizzahon says *You are already dead*
    *NANI!?*

  • @brainpower45
    @brainpower45 2 роки тому +1

    You are seriously underrating you are already dead. Black has a ton of ninjas, which HEAVILY incentivises blocks, even on small creatures. This is really just a half price blade brand.

  • @Brain-washed2
    @Brain-washed2 2 роки тому

    19:00
    incompleat?

    • @benjaminbuchan6497
      @benjaminbuchan6497 2 роки тому +1

      Not a typo, the process of turning something into a Phyrexian is called compleation.

    • @Brain-washed2
      @Brain-washed2 2 роки тому

      @@benjaminbuchan6497 neat

  • @Quiestre
    @Quiestre 2 роки тому

    OMAE WA MOU SHINDEIRU

  • @cspeeds96
    @cspeeds96 2 роки тому

    Woooo

  • @joshhudson9839
    @joshhudson9839 2 роки тому

    This might be a hot take but I feel like these black commons are pretty underwhelming, a lot of finicky instants and sorceries and poorly statted creatures. The bulk of the power seems to be in the commons and given how overdrafted black tends to be early on in most formats I feel like it's gonna be tough to pull it together early on in the format.
    BW and BG both feel like archetypes with pretty weak identites (the BW theme has barely any support and BG just seems like a good stuff deck and historically BG good stuff has been very disappointing) which leaves UB and BR and UB is probably just gonna be naturally contested because ninjas. Personally I feel like I'm only gonna really try to get into BR cause it looks like a really good archetype. Just based off initial impressions all the red decks especially BR and UR look solid and all the other archetypes except maybe UB look like they just won't come together very well cause they lack support.
    Initial impression of color rankings for me is R > U > W = B > G
    Also this set is giving me strong core set vibes. Besides ninjutsu and reconfigure (maybe flip sagas too I guess) there aren't any really defining mechanics. Most of whats going on here is just a typelines matter theme so I wouldn't be surprised if this plays like a core set.

  • @alexMendoza-wl5oj
    @alexMendoza-wl5oj 2 роки тому

    Leech gauntlet is a blue card LOL

  • @DragonProtector
    @DragonProtector 2 роки тому

    hm

  • @sshim950
    @sshim950 2 роки тому

    : )

  • @blaze556922
    @blaze556922 2 роки тому

    Return to action might be the ugliest artwork of the year...

  • @bobjones4469
    @bobjones4469 2 роки тому

    Interesting, most humanoid creatures in Kamigawa are either furries or female. Magic is primary a White guy's game so I suppose that's not too surprising.

  • @jaredfaust8677
    @jaredfaust8677 2 роки тому

    First. Hell yeah