This is a great video. Would love to see a video on all modern N64 controllers like the Brawler64, Tribute64, and the AliExpress exclusive N64 knockoff
Thank you! Someone else also suggested that idea, so I may eventually do one on that topic. I only have the Brawler controller though, so it probably won't be for a while.
I really enjoyed this video. I love seeing people talk about strange and unique controllers that I don't see very often. This is why the Brawler 64 and the Tribute 64 controllers are excellent alternatives to the traditional N64 layout. I love the original N64 controller but the other two I just mentioned are great modernized takes on the concept.
Glad you enjoyed it! Yeah I also prefer collecting weird controllers over games or special edition consoles and stuff like that. I have 2 Brawler controllers as well, and I love them. Usually my go to since I don't want to put any wear on the OEM and the Hori controllers.
I have Retro Fighter's Duelist controller. It's neat, definitely quality. I've been waiting for them to finally announce their "Big Announcement Mystery Item" for 359 days. I'm hoping that it's their GameCube controller, but Bluetooth.
i love weird controllers, we really need more boomerang designs also very good first video but it would be a good idea to address the muffled audio for the main speaking segments
Yeah weird controllers are my favorite thing to collect. And yeah the muffled audio is something I'm trying to fix by the next video. I've been looking into sound deafening foam or using a mic. Thanks for watching!
Honestly the best thing about the N64 controller or at least most N64 games is that it made the D-Pad and L button were useless. Cuz if you hold the controller the way you are supposed to, which is by the middle and right side, it was a very functional controller. Really you could cut off the left side of the N64 controller for the amount of times that either of those functions were useful for 95% of games. The one and only time that I remember using the L button was to better center the camera in Harvest Moon 64. And the only time I used the D-Pad was for movement in RE2. Other than that I don't remember using either of those functions of the controller for any other game on the N64.
That's actually a really good point. Splitting the controller up like that probably forced players to get used to the analog stick instead of sticking with the D-Pad. I remember using the D-Pad for movement in Kirby 64 and Mischief Makers, but those are 2D side scrollers so that makes sense. As for 3D games, I think most did use the analog stick for movement, but there were games like GoldenEye and I believe Perfect Dark also used the same control scheme that let you use the D-Pad for moving and the analog stick for looking. There was also the occasional 3D game like Turok that used the D-Pad for non-movement controls (In this case to toggle on/off running). Seems to be that 3D platformers used analog stick for movement and face buttons for actions, and 3D shooters included a more modern control scheme that used the D-Pad for movement and analog stick for looking.
Having the two analog sticks would be cool if say one analog stick showed up as the d-pad or the yellow buttons depending upon what the other analog stick was doing.
Yeah I assumed that's how it'd work, or maybe the end splitting into 2 plugs and letting you use the dual stick mode that way. Would've been really cool. Hope you enjoyed the video!
Really great video, I'm really impressed that it's your first! Like most people, I'm sure, I prefer the Hori pad over anything else. That stick just feels so nice, maybe even better than the GC's. Subscribed!
Thank you so much! And yeah maybe it's because the tension in the Hori Pad is slightly lower than in the GameCube stick and makes it glide a lot smoother. I actually didn't notice that difference until now.
Yeah I didn't want to spend money on something that I'd never touch again. But at the same time, I'll probably never use any of the controllers I talked about in this video again besides maybe as a joke HAHA.
Great first video. I owned a few of those and then just got rid of them as they were rubbish. I liked the original n64 controller. Back then the analogue stick was too large in depth to have it on the left of the controller and also the legendary status of the snes controller layout forced Nintendo to keep the snes design to some degree for 2d games incase the 3d games did not take off. Nintendo put huge amounts of effort into the controls of Super Mario 64 as they were so worried the jump to 3d would prove too much, hence the design. If you watch early gamers checking out SM64 at the trade shows you can see the serious lack of ability of most players to control mario, but they soon learnt the controls as the stick was so precise.
Thank you! I didn't think about the depth of the analog stick making it harder to implement and making the design similar to the SNES controller but that totally makes sense. I'll have to look up the footage of the early Mario 64 demos. That sounds super interesting.
Great comment. I remember people complaining about the controller when the N64 came out since it didn't look like anything else, but it was very good after a few minutes of play. Even at the time I thought people complaining about the N64 controller weren't trying very hard. This was years before the analog sticks would get tired and janky.
I know there have been N64 controller mods where people have joined two controllers together into one shell, so that you can use it as a dual stick controller for Star Wars: Episode 1 Racer, or in GoldenEye; but I'm honestly surprised that none of the companies who have produced modern 2-prong controllers like the Brawler64 haven't made a dual analog stick model to B take advantage of the mode in those games.
Yeah I thought the Nyko 64 was like that and would have 2 plugs, but sadly not. I wonder if dual stock N64 controllers would ever be a real mass produced product or if it's too niche to be worth selling.
@@SodaCanTablet Very niche. The only way I could see it working is if the controller could be used as normal, but have a two-analog stick mode and an adapter cable.
I saw the thumbnail and thought it would be something that Derek from SSFF would enjoy, but finding out that it isn't two N64 controllers stapled together makes me question what the point is.
Ohhh yeah his video on that is really fun and I want to make one of those Frankenstein's controller mods one day. I guess the point of these is to just make the N64 controller more approachable for people who were put off by the trident shape.
I actually have a Hori Mini, and it’s by far the best authentic 64 controller from that era. My main gripe comes down to personal preference, which is that the thumbstick doesn’t have enough tension. The extremely similar GameCube controller has a lot more resistance, which is what I was expecting. Also, the d-pad on mine slides around a bit like the cutout is too large for it. It was gifted to me by a friend over a decade ago, and I think the price has actually come down a little since then. Still, in 2024 I think most people should probably go with the Retro Fighters Brawler 64, unless having a truly retro experience is that important.
Ah yeah that's a good point I agree with. It feels like it takes half as much force to move the stick. I agree with the Brawler 64 being good for most people as well. I have 2 myself and love it. I'd love to get a Tribute 64 one day since that's modeled after the HORI Mini and see how they compare.
There was not a single game which made use of all three prongs during gameplay. This is why I never understood why people were claiming about the design
Yeah I personally like the OEM controller, and I think most of the criticisms in terms of the layout are from people who don't give it a fair chance by actually trying it out. I can understand that it can be daunting if someone's never seen it before though.
A brand called Pelican made THE BEST third party N64 controller at the time. They don't exists anymore, and I can't even find a picture of the controller online. But it was similar/identical to the Makopad.
Ohhh yeah I know of Pelican, but I've never heard of that controller. Hopefully one day, a picture pops up on a forum or something. I'd really love to see it. Hope you enjoyed the video!
I wish that companies making controllers nowadays (like retrofighters) would replicate the Alpha's design, it looks great for Goldeneye and Perfect Dark using tbe d-pad to walk and right analog to look around. I know people would want to use both analogues like modern controllers, but it's still better than only one analogue in the retrofighters control
Yeah while I love the Brawler 64, the layout doesn't really lend well to play FPS games. Maybe if they mirrored the layout they can release that as an FPS version of the controller lol. Thank you for watching!
I never understood why people felt they needed a different layout as the none standard ones generally were compromise in some way. Try dual wheeling them or using dpad and stick at the same time and you start getting real issues with most. The games on the N64 were designed for it's unique layout so I guess it's not surprising that others give issues.
Yeah I agree. It's like if you were trying to play Guitar Hero with a racing wheel. The games are designed with the controller in mind, so all N64 games should be fine with the oem layout.
3:27, lol I know what songs and noises that baby controller makes. 7:36, oh wow I haven’t heard Donkey Kong’s bizarre-ass sounding N64 noises in so long.
Did you know if you input the Konami code on the baby controller there's an Easter egg? That's my favorite part of it haha. And Classic DK sounds are so funny haha. Hope you enjoyed the video!
The problem with the n64 controller is the analog stick would loosen overtime to where it wouldnt work. The 3 prong design you can get used to but when the main movement stick would stop centering, you had to get a new one.
Yeah that's why I don't use my oem controllers. I don't want them to wear down so I use my Brawler 64 as my main controller instead. Hope you enjoyed the video!
In principle, The INteract 64 is "okay", but HATED the crooked/lopsided control stick. The nYKo dualstick would be cool to have simply for the novelty. Love the horipad. It's the ONLY controller that the GCN stick feels acceptable. Third party GCN sticks just are overblown, overscaled and overly sensitive. Anyway, Great Job! I'll be subscriber number 5 ~~^^
Yeah there's actually a whole sub category of games that's compatible with the 2 controllers. If you want to learn more, you should check out the Dual Analog Controller N64 Games video from the Stop Skeletons From Fighting channel. Great video and great channel overall and was a huge inspiration for me starting my channel.
Yeah it's shaped like a regular controller too, unlike those Frankenstein's N64 controller that's just 2 OEM controllers stuck together. It'd be really cool to see someone mod it to be that way though.
@@SodaCanTablet I just looked these up and they are too rich for me. They don't suck all the way though because you can go southpaw and move with the d-pad (Everyone uses WASD or arrows on keyboard) and have analog on the right for aiming which is more important (except for strictly left handed people).
I love the Brawler too! It's my go-to for when I'm playing for fun. I didn't include it in this video though since like you said, it's a newer controller and I wanted to focus on the ones that were sold while the N64 was on the market. Hope you enjoyed the video!
I hate the controls schemes on both N64 and PS1. They just did not have good controls figured out yet. Halo on Xbox was a huge game changer, it finally made 3d controls great on a gamepad
Yeah it was definitely an experimental phase haha. The devs had to work with what they had so I blame Nintendo for designing the controller like that in the first place haha. Hope you enjoyed the video!
I quite like the Makopad. Not especially comfortable, but then neither's the stock pad. Unfortunately it seems with N64 controllers there's no perfect option, just various compromises to choose between.
Remove the switch on the bottom of the alpha & swap the controller board for modern switch compatible button mapping. Bam, both sticks can be used on modern Nintendo switch games.
That's a good idea I haven't thought about. I don't have a Switch, but I remember a lot of people complaining about the button mapping for some of the N64 ports. Like how whenever you have to play the Ocarina on OoT, it's a bit weird. Using this controller would probably solve that problem since it has the N64 style face button layout with the 6 buttons in addition to the second analog stick. Hope you enjoyed the video!
I got a blueretro 64 adapter expecting it to magically improve anything being able to use modern controllers, but nothing is going to save you from the awful sensitivity of some shooter controls and some of them being forced inverted ;___; The firmware can be adjusted to different layouts so goldeneye controls like a modern shooter but I haven't gotten it to work yet.
Ah maybe when you manage to fix it, it'll be better? And I feel like if there's firmware to adjust the sensitivity, there would be one to invert aiming for you as well. Does it work well for other games that don't require as much precision?
Oh wow really? I thought since it has a metal base it'd be more durable. Do you remember if the metal itself broke or if it broke at the part where the metal and plastic top meet?
I do wonder how you would get along with the modern retro fighters, apparently I hear they're alright controllers, and since they're brand new they're still being made
I actually have 2 wired Brawlers and they're the main controllers I use for 90% of games haha. Mostly because I don't want to wear out the analog stick on any official ones, but I do genuinely like the Brawlers. For stuff like GoldenEye, I prefer using the oem controller though. Thanks for watching!
@@SodaCanTabletI yea they're also just decent controllers in their own right. plus you can go wireless, but you lose rumble and memory card swapping is more inconvenient but you can always get the wired model for the retro feel. the gamecube retrofighter looks pretty crap though and I wish they did stuck a little closer to the gamecube design.
These were the controllers you would get as a cheap 3rd or 4th player controllers and give it to your least favorite friend or family members to use lol
Was it because of the 2 pronged design or a different reason? A lot of people don't like the 3 pronged design, so I can see why you'd prefer the SuperPad.
Same with Johnny Thunder. He was my favorite. I didn't have the seat base in the correct color, nor the 2 black exhaust looking pieces on the back, so I just used a 4×5 tan plate with bricks for the sides and a pair of 2540 pieces for the exhaust. I'm hoping one day I can get all the parts to build all the main racers.
Which SuperPad? Hahaha jokes aside though, I don't really like how it feels because each of the directions are slightly longer than the OEM d-pad. When I play fighting games on pad, I tend to slide my thumb on the far edges of the d-pad instead of in the middle, so the longer directions make this type of play style a bit less comfortable. If you tend to just rock the d-pad from the center, you shouldn't have an issue with it though.
If you're playing a game that uses the d-pad and the stick, you'd use the right analog stick so your left hand can use the d-pad. If you're playing a game that uses the face buttons, you'd use the left stick so your right hand can be free to use the buttons. Thanks for watching!
Yeah, but then it'd be hard to press the remaining buttons. Like for Goldeneye, you have to reach your thumb over to press the A and B buttons if you're playing with the Solitaire control scheme. Another example is if you're playing Turok, the run button is the d-pad and you have to sort of reach up to press that. Not too big of a deal honestly but it can be inconvenient.
@@SodaCanTablet with GoldenEye, you didn't move your left hand to the center part with the analog stick? I thought everyone did that. 😅 But then again, I was a little kid back when the Nintendo 64 was out- so there's no way I was gonna be able to stretch my hand across the controller like that.
@@TheEarthRealm Haha I move with the d-pad and aim with the analog stick, but I think you're probably right about most people not doing it that way since the default settings aren't set that way. I prefer the accuracy for aiming instead of movement since I think it's more important. I'm also more used to moving with left hand and aiming with right since I grew up with games like Halo.
Ohh yeah I have 2 Brawlers, but I wanted to talk about 2 pronged controllers that were made while the N64 was still on the market. I also thought it'd be redundant to talk about the Brawler since so many other UA-camrs have talked about it already haha. Hope you enjoyed the video though!
That's true, but the digital signals are processed into analog outputs. Also I'm too used to calling it an analog stick haha. Glad you enjoyed the video!
do a follow up with the retro-bit tribute 2.4 v2, and the retro fighter brawler 64 nso edition. i have been burned so many times on 3rd party crap, but i want to believe 🤣 i did get an older version brawler 64 usb, i basically hate it. it feels hollow and the dpad is no bueno.
The only modern controller I have is the Brawler 64 (I think V2 but I'm not too sure). I'll put that idea on the back burner for now until I get more. Thanks for the suggestion!
I have 2 Brawler controllers, but I decided not to include them in this video because I wanted to focus on the controllers that were sold back in the day, and the Brawler is modern. I thought since there are so many other videos covering the Brawler, there isn't really anything for me to say that hadn't been said before. I do kind of regret not including it though in hindsight. Regardless, I hope you enjoyed the video!
It's all Miyamoto fault , , idiotic 3 handle design, , ,my SharkPad Pro was amazing for Quake, WrestleMania 2000 , KI-Gold, MK-TRILOGY , WARGODS , MK-4 and Pokemon Stadium , , plays them well 🎉🎉🎉
I had this really awful N64 controller from I think Performance that only had the middle handle (none of the outer ones), but also the analogue stick was just a pointy stick since the original nub fell off forever ago. Tried playing MK64 on it, and it was the most painful way I've played anything. The best part, the stick stopped moving left and right, then died completely!
Oh man is it the other SuperPad 64? That sounds painful you were basically being poked with a needle whenever you used the stick. Imagine playing the Mario party wiggle the stick mini games with that damn haha.
@@SodaCanTablet that'd be a start lol. i'd suggest getting a lavalier mic on *__* the ones with the really long cords and sometimes 2 of them for around 15-30. i'm not a content creator or anything, but i have used mics before. you'd be surprised how good some of them can sound for so cheap. read some reviews if you decide on it. i'm surprised this is your first video (not counting the other 2, sorry), but i hope you keep making videos. wouldn't let me post without changing the name.
HAHA thank you I'll take it as a compliment. Yeah I haven't made any "serious" videos before this one, and I wanted to give it my all since I've wanted to make videos about retro games for a while. I think I also have a meticulous work process and scripted everything out which helped a lot.
The concept of the Alpha 64 is actually good. It's such a shame Nintendo didn't revise the controller.
Yeah definitely. If they did something like how PS1 added new analog inputs to their existing console, that would've been cool.
This is a great video. Would love to see a video on all modern N64 controllers like the Brawler64, Tribute64, and the AliExpress exclusive N64 knockoff
Thank you! Someone else also suggested that idea, so I may eventually do one on that topic. I only have the Brawler controller though, so it probably won't be for a while.
I really enjoyed this video. I love seeing people talk about strange and unique controllers that I don't see very often. This is why the Brawler 64 and the Tribute 64 controllers are excellent alternatives to the traditional N64 layout. I love the original N64 controller but the other two I just mentioned are great modernized takes on the concept.
Glad you enjoyed it! Yeah I also prefer collecting weird controllers over games or special edition consoles and stuff like that. I have 2 Brawler controllers as well, and I love them. Usually my go to since I don't want to put any wear on the OEM and the Hori controllers.
I have Retro Fighter's Duelist controller. It's neat, definitely quality. I've been waiting for them to finally announce their "Big Announcement Mystery Item" for 359 days. I'm hoping that it's their GameCube controller, but Bluetooth.
I love finding unknown UA-cam's with really good videos, I hope your channel gets big some day
Haha thank you! I'm glad you enjoyed it.
i love weird controllers, we really need more boomerang designs
also very good first video but it would be a good idea to address the muffled audio for the main speaking segments
Yeah weird controllers are my favorite thing to collect. And yeah the muffled audio is something I'm trying to fix by the next video. I've been looking into sound deafening foam or using a mic. Thanks for watching!
3:14 First thing I said when I saw this was "that looks like a Wavebird".
Truly some of the controllers of all time
Too real.
Honestly the best thing about the N64 controller or at least most N64 games is that it made the D-Pad and L button were useless. Cuz if you hold the controller the way you are supposed to, which is by the middle and right side, it was a very functional controller.
Really you could cut off the left side of the N64 controller for the amount of times that either of those functions were useful for 95% of games.
The one and only time that I remember using the L button was to better center the camera in Harvest Moon 64. And the only time I used the D-Pad was for movement in RE2. Other than that I don't remember using either of those functions of the controller for any other game on the N64.
That's actually a really good point. Splitting the controller up like that probably forced players to get used to the analog stick instead of sticking with the D-Pad. I remember using the D-Pad for movement in Kirby 64 and Mischief Makers, but those are 2D side scrollers so that makes sense. As for 3D games, I think most did use the analog stick for movement, but there were games like GoldenEye and I believe Perfect Dark also used the same control scheme that let you use the D-Pad for moving and the analog stick for looking. There was also the occasional 3D game like Turok that used the D-Pad for non-movement controls (In this case to toggle on/off running). Seems to be that 3D platformers used analog stick for movement and face buttons for actions, and 3D shooters included a more modern control scheme that used the D-Pad for movement and analog stick for looking.
Having the two analog sticks would be cool if say one analog stick showed up as the d-pad or the yellow buttons depending upon what the other analog stick was doing.
Yeah I assumed that's how it'd work, or maybe the end splitting into 2 plugs and letting you use the dual stick mode that way. Would've been really cool. Hope you enjoyed the video!
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Really great video, I'm really impressed that it's your first! Like most people, I'm sure, I prefer the Hori pad over anything else. That stick just feels so nice, maybe even better than the GC's. Subscribed!
Thank you so much! And yeah maybe it's because the tension in the Hori Pad is slightly lower than in the GameCube stick and makes it glide a lot smoother. I actually didn't notice that difference until now.
@@SodaCanTablet Agreed! I like joysticks that don't offer much resistance.
instead of buying the fisher price controller, he brought the controller into the store. legend.
Yeah I didn't want to spend money on something that I'd never touch again. But at the same time, I'll probably never use any of the controllers I talked about in this video again besides maybe as a joke HAHA.
your channel has a LOT of potential i cant wait to see you blow up in the coming months
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Great first video. I owned a few of those and then just got rid of them as they were rubbish. I liked the original n64 controller. Back then the analogue stick was too large in depth to have it on the left of the controller and also the legendary status of the snes controller layout forced Nintendo to keep the snes design to some degree for 2d games incase the 3d games did not take off. Nintendo put huge amounts of effort into the controls of Super Mario 64 as they were so worried the jump to 3d would prove too much, hence the design. If you watch early gamers checking out SM64 at the trade shows you can see the serious lack of ability of most players to control mario, but they soon learnt the controls as the stick was so precise.
Thank you! I didn't think about the depth of the analog stick making it harder to implement and making the design similar to the SNES controller but that totally makes sense. I'll have to look up the footage of the early Mario 64 demos. That sounds super interesting.
Great comment. I remember people complaining about the controller when the N64 came out since it didn't look like anything else, but it was very good after a few minutes of play. Even at the time I thought people complaining about the N64 controller weren't trying very hard. This was years before the analog sticks would get tired and janky.
Omg I love your videos - so well made and well thought out. Instant sub!!!
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N64 controller? With only two prongs? Those, monsters!😆
I know there have been N64 controller mods where people have joined two controllers together into one shell, so that you can use it as a dual stick controller for Star Wars: Episode 1 Racer, or in GoldenEye; but I'm honestly surprised that none of the companies who have produced modern 2-prong controllers like the Brawler64 haven't made a dual analog stick model to B take advantage of the mode in those games.
Yeah I thought the Nyko 64 was like that and would have 2 plugs, but sadly not. I wonder if dual stock N64 controllers would ever be a real mass produced product or if it's too niche to be worth selling.
@@SodaCanTablet Very niche. The only way I could see it working is if the controller could be used as normal, but have a two-analog stick mode and an adapter cable.
Boomerang 64, the only controller you can throw at the tv and have it come back.
I saw the thumbnail and thought it would be something that Derek from SSFF would enjoy, but finding out that it isn't two N64 controllers stapled together makes me question what the point is.
Ohhh yeah his video on that is really fun and I want to make one of those Frankenstein's controller mods one day. I guess the point of these is to just make the N64 controller more approachable for people who were put off by the trident shape.
1:58 PFFF that got me hehehe. Great vid btw!
Haha glad you enjoyed. Thank you!
I actually have a Hori Mini, and it’s by far the best authentic 64 controller from that era. My main gripe comes down to personal preference, which is that the thumbstick doesn’t have enough tension. The extremely similar GameCube controller has a lot more resistance, which is what I was expecting. Also, the d-pad on mine slides around a bit like the cutout is too large for it. It was gifted to me by a friend over a decade ago, and I think the price has actually come down a little since then. Still, in 2024 I think most people should probably go with the Retro Fighters Brawler 64, unless having a truly retro experience is that important.
Ah yeah that's a good point I agree with. It feels like it takes half as much force to move the stick. I agree with the Brawler 64 being good for most people as well. I have 2 myself and love it. I'd love to get a Tribute 64 one day since that's modeled after the HORI Mini and see how they compare.
these controllers goofy as hell
great channel! Great editing, great comedic timing 👍🏻👍🏻 subbed
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wow epic video, i didnt even know you only had 146 subs
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There was not a single game which made use of all three prongs during gameplay. This is why I never understood why people were claiming about the design
Yeah I personally like the OEM controller, and I think most of the criticisms in terms of the layout are from people who don't give it a fair chance by actually trying it out. I can understand that it can be daunting if someone's never seen it before though.
A brand called Pelican made THE BEST third party N64 controller at the time. They don't exists anymore, and I can't even find a picture of the controller online. But it was similar/identical to the Makopad.
Ohhh yeah I know of Pelican, but I've never heard of that controller. Hopefully one day, a picture pops up on a forum or something. I'd really love to see it. Hope you enjoyed the video!
@@SodaCanTablet I wouldn't be surprised if the MakoPad is using the exact same shell design as the Pelican two-prong I'm remembering.
I wish that companies making controllers nowadays (like retrofighters) would replicate the Alpha's design, it looks great for Goldeneye and Perfect Dark using tbe d-pad to walk and right analog to look around. I know people would want to use both analogues like modern controllers, but it's still better than only one analogue in the retrofighters control
Yeah while I love the Brawler 64, the layout doesn't really lend well to play FPS games. Maybe if they mirrored the layout they can release that as an FPS version of the controller lol. Thank you for watching!
0:14 Yeah, but it was after it was discovered that humans typically have only two hands
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I never understood why people felt they needed a different layout as the none standard ones generally were compromise in some way. Try dual wheeling them or using dpad and stick at the same time and you start getting real issues with most. The games on the N64 were designed for it's unique layout so I guess it's not surprising that others give issues.
Yeah I agree. It's like if you were trying to play Guitar Hero with a racing wheel. The games are designed with the controller in mind, so all N64 games should be fine with the oem layout.
3:27, lol I know what songs and noises that baby controller makes. 7:36, oh wow I haven’t heard Donkey Kong’s bizarre-ass sounding N64 noises in so long.
Did you know if you input the Konami code on the baby controller there's an Easter egg? That's my favorite part of it haha. And Classic DK sounds are so funny haha. Hope you enjoyed the video!
The problem with the n64 controller is the analog stick would loosen overtime to where it wouldnt work. The 3 prong design you can get used to but when the main movement stick would stop centering, you had to get a new one.
Yeah that's why I don't use my oem controllers. I don't want them to wear down so I use my Brawler 64 as my main controller instead. Hope you enjoyed the video!
The Hori Mini is so cute! Its perfect for me because I have baby hands hahahah
HAHA you should try it one day. Thanks for watching.
In principle, The INteract 64 is "okay", but HATED the crooked/lopsided control stick.
The nYKo dualstick would be cool to have simply for the novelty.
Love the horipad. It's the ONLY controller that the GCN stick feels acceptable. Third party GCN sticks just are overblown, overscaled and overly sensitive.
Anyway, Great Job!
I'll be subscriber number 5 ~~^^
Thank you so much! And I agree I basically only bought the Nyko because it looks cool haha.
This was a funny and informative video Love the editing
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Subscribed. This video emits that old UA-cam retro gaming retrospective energy.
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That Alpha is honestly dope. I do not like its D-Pad, though.
I thought I'd hate the d-pad on the Alpha the most, but the Boomerang one feels a lot mushier.
@@SodaCanTablet Boomerang's looks like... very oversized, as if for a kid's toy. Might be comfortable, if it were quality.
I like this. This is kind of an original way to do videos like this.
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ive never seen someone play golden eye with two controllers like that. wild
Yeah there's actually a whole sub category of games that's compatible with the 2 controllers. If you want to learn more, you should check out the Dual Analog Controller N64 Games video from the Stop Skeletons From Fighting channel. Great video and great channel overall and was a huge inspiration for me starting my channel.
The modern one from Retro Fighters is fantastic.
True. I have 2 of them and they're my go-to controllers.
great video dude. I like your style 🎉
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Imagine saving your money as a teenager and buying one of these controllers in the late 90s. Game over
Just hand them off to your siblings or your friends haha. Hope you enjoyed the video!
Every time I watch these n64 videos I have to tell myself....I dont need it!! So cool to see how crazy controllers use to be back in the day.
Same! But you can probably tell usually I give in and just buy them haha. Hope you enjoyed the video!
All Nyko had to do was put two connectors on the cord and run it like 2 controllers combined in one housing.
Yeah it's shaped like a regular controller too, unlike those Frankenstein's N64 controller that's just 2 OEM controllers stuck together. It'd be really cool to see someone mod it to be that way though.
@@SodaCanTablet I just looked these up and they are too rich for me. They don't suck all the way though because you can go southpaw and move with the d-pad (Everyone uses WASD or arrows on keyboard) and have analog on the right for aiming which is more important (except for strictly left handed people).
well, one advantage of the AlphaPro >64 (c'mon that's totally what it says) controller is you get a spare stick when one of them inevitably crap out!
HAHA true spare stick like a spare tire on a car. The N64 controller definitely needed one since they wear out so quickly.
This video was really nice :))
Thank you so much! :^]
Great video, Nintendo 64 will be one of my fave consoles ever
Thank you! Definitely one of my favorites as well.
It was a great video. Thanks for sharing.
Thank you! Glad you enjoyed it. :^)
The brawler 64 is another dual handle controller granted it is pretty new but i love them
I love the Brawler too! It's my go-to for when I'm playing for fun. I didn't include it in this video though since like you said, it's a newer controller and I wanted to focus on the ones that were sold while the N64 was on the market. Hope you enjoyed the video!
@@SodaCanTablet thanks looking forward to more videos :)
Great first video!
Thank you! Glad you enjoyed it.
Keep making more videos. This made me laugh. Very few things make me laugh.
Thank you I will! I'm glad you enjoyed it. :^)
Underrated.
Watched this vide 3 times I love it
well made video, keep it up
Thank you!
Solid job my man! Keep ‘em coming!
Thank you! I'll keep at it.
I hate the controls schemes on both N64 and PS1. They just did not have good controls figured out yet. Halo on Xbox was a huge game changer, it finally made 3d controls great on a gamepad
Yeah it was definitely an experimental phase haha. The devs had to work with what they had so I blame Nintendo for designing the controller like that in the first place haha. Hope you enjoyed the video!
I quite like the Makopad. Not especially comfortable, but then neither's the stock pad. Unfortunately it seems with N64 controllers there's no perfect option, just various compromises to choose between.
That's true haha. I do like the Brawler 64 and I see a lot of praise for the Tribute 64 as well. I feel like they're good modern redesigns.
Remove the switch on the bottom of the alpha & swap the controller board for modern switch compatible button mapping. Bam, both sticks can be used on modern Nintendo switch games.
But all I want is to play the Zelda
game series from the N64 & up.
That's a good idea I haven't thought about. I don't have a Switch, but I remember a lot of people complaining about the button mapping for some of the N64 ports. Like how whenever you have to play the Ocarina on OoT, it's a bit weird. Using this controller would probably solve that problem since it has the N64 style face button layout with the 6 buttons in addition to the second analog stick. Hope you enjoyed the video!
i lost it when he said it even has a clitoris lol
Haha glad you enjoyed it!
@@SodaCanTablet didn't expect a reply love your videos \m/
Yeah I try to reply to all comments, and thank you!
Cool Video!
Greetings from Germany :)
Thank you! Glad you enjoyed it. :^)
I got a blueretro 64 adapter expecting it to magically improve anything being able to use modern controllers, but nothing is going to save you from the awful sensitivity of some shooter controls and some of them being forced inverted ;___;
The firmware can be adjusted to different layouts so goldeneye controls like a modern shooter but I haven't gotten it to work yet.
Ah maybe when you manage to fix it, it'll be better? And I feel like if there's firmware to adjust the sensitivity, there would be one to invert aiming for you as well. Does it work well for other games that don't require as much precision?
Great video!!
Thank you! Glad you enjoyed it. :^)
Great video!
Thank you! Glad you enjoyed it.
this was a great video
Thank you! Glad you enjoyed it.
the mako pad 64 feels terrible to me i would 100% always use a normal controller over it
Yeah I don't like the stick and how slippery it feels.
awesome vid
Thank you! Glad you enjoyed it. :^)
That super pad stick used to break. I had one when I was kid
Oh wow really? I thought since it has a metal base it'd be more durable. Do you remember if the metal itself broke or if it broke at the part where the metal and plastic top meet?
@@SodaCanTablet the stick got stuck to one side. Idk what it was caused by though
Hmm maybe something got lodged in the mechanism or something.
Great video!!!!
Thank you!
I do wonder how you would get along with the modern retro fighters, apparently I hear they're alright controllers, and since they're brand new they're still being made
I actually have 2 wired Brawlers and they're the main controllers I use for 90% of games haha. Mostly because I don't want to wear out the analog stick on any official ones, but I do genuinely like the Brawlers. For stuff like GoldenEye, I prefer using the oem controller though. Thanks for watching!
@@SodaCanTabletI yea they're also just decent controllers in their own right. plus you can go wireless, but you lose rumble and memory card swapping is more inconvenient
but you can always get the wired model for the retro feel.
the gamecube retrofighter looks pretty crap though and I wish they did stuck a little closer to the gamecube design.
These were the controllers you would get as a cheap 3rd or 4th player controllers and give it to your least favorite friend or family members to use lol
Haha yeah, the Super Pad especially. Everyone would probably be fighting to use the HORI Mini Pad though. Hope you enjoyed the video!
@@SodaCanTablet Haha true! And I did thanks can’t wait to see more! :D
I owned the Interact Superpad and preferred it over the Nintendo one.
Was it because of the 2 pronged design or a different reason? A lot of people don't like the 3 pronged design, so I can see why you'd prefer the SuperPad.
@@SodaCanTablet That and the metal joystick. One session of 1080° Snowboarding will destroy a regular one.
Ah true. I played 1080 for the first time and I can def see why a metal stick would be necessary.
1:48 It's got a what now?
Brawler 64 is def the best third party n64 controller
I agree. I have a clear blue one I use as my main controller. Thanks for watching!
I like the makopad, interesting the kori pad has a lot of praise from the smash bros community, the alpha is the one that appeals to me the most
The alpha does look the coolest. If you ever get to try out the Hori pad one day, you'll understand why. The analog sticks are top of the line. 👌
Im subbing solely because you own a Lego Racers poster.
Based fellow LEGO Racers enjoyer. I actually bought a PAL version of the PS1 game solely because it included that poster loool.
@@SodaCanTablet I built replicas of Turbo Charger and Johnny Thunder's cars, that's how much I love LEGO Racers.
Same with Johnny Thunder. He was my favorite. I didn't have the seat base in the correct color, nor the 2 black exhaust looking pieces on the back, so I just used a 4×5 tan plate with bricks for the sides and a pair of 2540 pieces for the exhaust. I'm hoping one day I can get all the parts to build all the main racers.
@@SodaCanTablet Mine's practically 1-1 with the in-game model aside from the wheels and front lights.
Cool video! Keep it up!!
Thank you so much!
I had a few Super Pads and Alpha 64's and they were good but the analof stick durability was terrible on both.
Oh wow how was the Alpha 64 when it was new? I bought mine used so I'm curious how they felt to use without the analog sticks being worn out.
Gatsu’s Theme from Berk?
Haha yup.
u got a future bro
Thank you so much!
How does Rakuga Kids play with the Super Pad?
Which SuperPad? Hahaha jokes aside though, I don't really like how it feels because each of the directions are slightly longer than the OEM d-pad. When I play fighting games on pad, I tend to slide my thumb on the far edges of the d-pad instead of in the middle, so the longer directions make this type of play style a bit less comfortable. If you tend to just rock the d-pad from the center, you shouldn't have an issue with it though.
What are you supposed to do with TWO analogue sticks? 🤷🏿♂️
If you're playing a game that uses the d-pad and the stick, you'd use the right analog stick so your left hand can use the d-pad. If you're playing a game that uses the face buttons, you'd use the left stick so your right hand can be free to use the buttons. Thanks for watching!
@@SodaCanTablet But wait, can't you do that same thing with the regular Nintendo 64 controller?
Yeah, but then it'd be hard to press the remaining buttons. Like for Goldeneye, you have to reach your thumb over to press the A and B buttons if you're playing with the Solitaire control scheme. Another example is if you're playing Turok, the run button is the d-pad and you have to sort of reach up to press that. Not too big of a deal honestly but it can be inconvenient.
@@SodaCanTablet with GoldenEye, you didn't move your left hand to the center part with the analog stick? I thought everyone did that. 😅 But then again, I was a little kid back when the Nintendo 64 was out- so there's no way I was gonna be able to stretch my hand across the controller like that.
@@TheEarthRealm Haha I move with the d-pad and aim with the analog stick, but I think you're probably right about most people not doing it that way since the default settings aren't set that way. I prefer the accuracy for aiming instead of movement since I think it's more important. I'm also more used to moving with left hand and aiming with right since I grew up with games like Halo.
Forgot the brawler 64
Ohh yeah I have 2 Brawlers, but I wanted to talk about 2 pronged controllers that were made while the N64 was still on the market. I also thought it'd be redundant to talk about the Brawler since so many other UA-camrs have talked about it already haha. Hope you enjoyed the video though!
Boys he found it
Haha what do you mean?
@@SodaCanTablet the clitoris
playing extreme g on a mako pad was absolutely terrible in the 90s
I can imagine haha. Thanks for watching!
NIce video but the N64 the stick is digital not analog.
That's true, but the digital signals are processed into analog outputs. Also I'm too used to calling it an analog stick haha. Glad you enjoyed the video!
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Superpad.
do a follow up with the retro-bit tribute 2.4 v2, and the retro fighter brawler 64 nso edition. i have been burned so many times on 3rd party crap, but i want to believe 🤣
i did get an older version brawler 64 usb, i basically hate it. it feels hollow and the dpad is no bueno.
The only modern controller I have is the Brawler 64 (I think V2 but I'm not too sure). I'll put that idea on the back burner for now until I get more. Thanks for the suggestion!
Retro Brawler controller
I have 2 Brawler controllers, but I decided not to include them in this video because I wanted to focus on the controllers that were sold back in the day, and the Brawler is modern. I thought since there are so many other videos covering the Brawler, there isn't really anything for me to say that hadn't been said before. I do kind of regret not including it though in hindsight. Regardless, I hope you enjoyed the video!
very funny video teehee
Thank you haha glad you enjoyed it!
It's all Miyamoto fault , , idiotic 3 handle design, , ,my SharkPad Pro was amazing for Quake, WrestleMania 2000 , KI-Gold, MK-TRILOGY , WARGODS , MK-4 and Pokemon Stadium , , plays them well 🎉🎉🎉
Thank god for the Retro Fighters Brawler64 nowaday
Haha true. Thanks for watching!
Ngl I clicked on this video because Shinobu
Haha yeah she's my favorite character. Thanks for watching!
I had this really awful N64 controller from I think Performance that only had the middle handle (none of the outer ones), but also the analogue stick was just a pointy stick since the original nub fell off forever ago. Tried playing MK64 on it, and it was the most painful way I've played anything. The best part, the stick stopped moving left and right, then died completely!
Oh man is it the other SuperPad 64? That sounds painful you were basically being poked with a needle whenever you used the stick. Imagine playing the Mario party wiggle the stick mini games with that damn haha.
@@SodaCanTablet It was! I was going to actually try that mini-game, but by the time I went to try that the stick died on me lol
Haha maybe it was for the better. You might have a hole in your hand if you actually tried.
great video, subscribed. get a better mic
HAHA thank you. Yes I'm currently trying to figure out how to make the audio better. I think using an external mic instead of my phone is better.
@@SodaCanTablet that'd be a start lol. i'd suggest getting a lavalier mic on *__* the ones with the really long cords and sometimes 2 of them for around 15-30. i'm not a content creator or anything, but i have used mics before. you'd be surprised how good some of them can sound for so cheap. read some reviews if you decide on it.
i'm surprised this is your first video (not counting the other 2, sorry), but i hope you keep making videos.
wouldn't let me post without changing the name.
2 joysticked
Haha yeah that one is truly a specimen. Thanks for watching!
I had one. It sucked and the joystick spun
Haha yeah that seemed to be the main problem with most of these controllers. Thanks for watching!
Where did you come from
What do you mean?
i only see 2 videos from 5 years ago and with this kinda production quality.. who r u
@@SodaCanTablet
HAHA thank you I'll take it as a compliment. Yeah I haven't made any "serious" videos before this one, and I wanted to give it my all since I've wanted to make videos about retro games for a while. I think I also have a meticulous work process and scripted everything out which helped a lot.
Please stop doing the couch segments until you get a better mic. This is interesting content but the audio quality is really off-putting.
Good news I got a better mic in my newest video haha. Hope those will be better for you.
Nah it's not that off putting imo
Haha people have different tolerances for it. It bothered me too tbh, but I'm glad I have an actual mic now so it won't be an issue anymore.