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It's in the works! Sorry for the long wait!

@@SodaCanTablet alright

OH that makes a lot of sense I didn't think about that. Thank you! I really hope another one gets listed with better pics.

Thank you! Yeah I'm very proud of the art haha. I'll be uploading the file for it in the future when I have the video done so people can make their own.

Oh man I can't believe I forgot about SDVX that used to be my shit. Do you know for the Big Bass wheels how it knows the ticket values? From what I understand, the encoders can only track relative position so when the machines are shut off at the end of the day wouldn't that cause the wheel position to be lost?

@@SodaCanTablet The encoder wheels used in arcade games typically have a second sensor and the encoder wheel has an extra notch that acts as the home position

Ahhh that makes sense that's cool. Thank you!

Don't worry I had a lot of fun with this stream, and I actually made zero progress because the controller I was working on has to be trashed. I'll be streaming more soldering when I have time.

Ahhh that's cool. Playing NES games with a proper arcade stick reminds me of the PlayChoice 10 that must be a fun experience haha.

Thank you! Glad it was informative. So I really love SEGA, but I don't have too many accessories for it like with the SNES. I hope in the future I can cover it though because the SEGA sticks look sick. The official 6 button arcade stick for the Genesis looks so sleek. I'm also really interested in the later SEGA consoles like the Saturn and Dreamcast so I hope I can cover them as well.

Haha thank you so much! I'm also the type of person to rewatch videos a lot, so it means a lot to me that my videos are rewatchable for you. Thank you for your continuous support!

Thank you! Glad you enjoyed it. I'll keep that in mind for upcoming videos and explain the mechanisms and stuff if there's another controller that uses an unusual control scheme.

Ohh yeah my Super Advantage also had issues with the buttons sticking, but I took it apart and cleaned the sides and that seemed to help a lot. It still did get stuck whenever the buttons got pressed down at an angle though.

@@SodaCanTablet My entire memory of it was getting it at the store, bringing it home, and realizing it sucks because the buttons aren't great and stick easily. Back then just about any third party controller was bad though, I learned my lesson.

Thank you! Glad you enjoyed it. :^)

Thank you so much! And thank you for the shout out on Twitter as well.

Yeah it's definitely a way better layout than the Super Advantage. It's just too bad the stick is also squishy.

Ahhh I've only used Sanwa sticks so I didn't know Seimitsu sticks used the same switches. That's pretty cool. Maybe if I make another stick one day, I'll try it with a Seimitsu lever instead of Sanwa. And that's pretty surprising that a PS1 controller had a better response time than the OEM board loool. Do you remember what brand it was? I'm just curious because I only have experience with the HORI RAP 4 and Raspberry Pi Pico for fight sticks on PC. The ASCII Stick Jr. has such a nice design. Did it use switches or the rubber pads for the stick? I like the color scheme though. Kind of reminds me of the Namco PS1 Arcade Stick. Hope you enjoyed the video!

@@SodaCanTablet definitely enjoyed the video!! 1: FWIW i'm pretty sure every public candy cab i've come across in the united states has been fitted out with 100% sanwa parts, and I have never been disappointed. seimitsu sticks are well designed and super overbuilt. while it may seem like they've got a bunch of them, they just have 2 body styles, and then variants of those with different springs/throw distances/shaft lengths/deadzones etc. the LS-32 and LS-40 in particular are wide and chunky over in the case, even moreso with the pcb. their sticks and buttons overall seem to feel firmer than sanwa's, but not too heavy. i've only used the new ls-32, which is still a fairly light action but feels a bit heavier than the JLF, with a shorter throw, a snappier return and smaller deadzone. as long as you get the right mounting plate your setup/build, the LS-32 is a very good all-rounder much like the JLF. their buttons are a bit firm and tactile, not heavy but unlikely to go off just resting your finger on it, more like a cherry clear than the buckling spring-heaviness of happ buttons. sanwa buttons make it less fatiguing and easy to rapid mash, and i've RARELY had one of them go off from resting. 2: it was a qanba Q1's OEM board, which was one of the least expensive sticks of its time (maybe still?? they have them on their website for 60 and in stock??). the case has held up spectacularly after having to cut away some plastic to make room for things! 3: the NES advantage/ASCII Stick Jr have the same internals with the rubber pads for everything, i remember one of the ADVANTAGES we had felt like it was starting to rip and start missing inputs a long time ago. the original ASCII Stick famicom seems to be a different beast altogether, with a nice printed metal look and arcade quality parts from seimitsu, looks just as good as the Jr.

Haha thank you. I actually have 2 more and I want to get some of the smaller ones one day.

Thank you! I'm glad you like the editing and the custom stick haha. The stick is definitely one of my prouder builds so far. Glad you enjoyed the video!

Oh damn I didn't know that. I wish I had the manuals for these so I can see if any of these other controllers have hidden features like that. Hope you enjoyed the video!

YEAH I remember that ad. They really thought we were that stupid HAHA. The Genesis version of the CPSF looks sick I think it looks cooler than the SNES version. One thing I think is interesting is how Genesis was associated with black coloring and SNES usually with the off white, but with this it was reversed. Hope you enjoyed the video!

Oh man the PC Engine is one of my dream consoles. The only one I can afford rn though is the mini version but I'd much rather just get the real deal. Castlevania Dracula X and yeah SFII on it looks so sick. I wanna get the Turbo Express too.

@@SodaCanTablet good luck getting your hands on one

HAHA yeah I'm trynna make this a personal heaven. I always wanted the rooms like those kids in those Nintendo Power ads in their room fully decked out with gear. Hope you enjoyed the video!

From your passion for SF2, hatred of modern sticks, and referring to Tekken 5 as modern despite it being basically 20 years old, I'm guessing you grew up with SF2 in the arcades and witnessed the decline of American style sticks and increasing popularity of Japanese style sticks. You probably prefer the American style sticks because of that reason. I prefer Japanese style sticks because that's what I grew up with. What makes a good arcade controller is subjective and the definition is going to be different for each person depending on what they grew up with. That's why there's still new types of controllers like the Mixbox being made for people who grew up using keyboard controls for example, and why some people still prefer Happ sticks despite most high performing stick users using Japanese levers like Sanwa or Seimitsu. Just use what works for you. 3rd gen home consoles rarely had arcade style controllers that used micro switch stick mechanisms as opposed to ones that use rubber gaskets. I thought it was amazing how this generation became a turning point for arcade style controllers using the more traditional switch mechanisms. Similar to how it was amazing when the 5th generation of consoles mostly came with analog sticks with a few exceptions. American SF2 arcade sticks do click, just not as intensely. Like I mentioned, American SF2 machines used Happ levers which are clicky because they use micro switches. So yeah, the one at 6:18 is similar to the ones in the arcades because they use the same type of mechanism. Also original Japanese SF2 cabs used the clicky Sanwa levers so in both cases, original SF2 controls did click. 1 just not as much as the other. The clickiness being very bad is subjective. Idk if you're talking about the volume or the clicking feel itself, but there are advantages and disadvantages to both. Loud clicking can give away your inputs to an opponent even if you're playing apart from each other which might help them predict your moves. However, they can also be used to fake out or distract opponents (such as when Justin Wong started to jiggle the lever really fast during Moment 37 to try to distract Daigo with the noise), and this metagame actually led to the creation of in game mechanics like the fake fireballs. Whether the pros outweigh the cons is going to depend on your playstyle and whether you like to play mindgames with your opponent or prefer a more straightforward approach to fighting. The clicking feeling is good because it gives tactile feedback when inputs are read. Without the tactile feeling, it'd be much harder to do moves. Think about playing a fighting game on an analog stick. Not really sure what you mean by the ball moves. Do you mean like it rotates in place? Or that it moves up and down the shaft? Either way, it's not the ball that rotates, it's the shaft which by the way bat top Happ sticks also do. Neither ball top nor bat top sticks move up or down during normal gameplay unless you purposely pull up on them. As for the SNES being outdated, again that's subjective and if you consider it outdated, it just sounds like you don't enjoy retro games. If it's fun, why does it matter if it's old. You do realize modern Street Fighter games also have input leniency? SFIV had notoriously lenient inputs and continued with SFV and VI. And whether the input leniency of the SNES port of SFII was by design or because of hardware limitations like you said, the end result is something that the game devs deemed did not impact the game in a negative way and implemented in future titles.

Yeah I just tried Googling both the SNES and the Saturn version and they both seem to have the same shell and parts. They probably just recycled the shell to save on cost. I'm assuming the Reddit post is from you? Either way, hope you can find more info about it. It seems really cool!

I haven't looked too much into d-pad options for fighters, but if you have suggestions on any that's interesting I'd love to hear them. I know there are interesting ones like the SEGA Saturn controller for PS2, ASCII PAD for the Dreamcast and PS1, and the HORI 2way Fighting Commander for PS1. I don't have a Capcom pad but I really want one. I like that it combines the feel of using a standard controller for your left hand since it has a d-pad with the feel of using an arcade style controller for your right hand since your fingers are laid flat on the 6 buttons. I'm guessing the AsciiWare version is either ripping the Capcom design or maybe they had a deal at one point that AsciiWare could sell the design so that Capcom wouldn't have to do the manufacturing part.

@@SodaCanTablet Well I can't recommend anything good outside if what you mentioned and I know from firsthand experience the GamePad 6 by Performance was uncomfortable even if you had a callus on your thumb. Anything on the Nintendo side of things I can't really say since I've found what I've been looking for.

Yeah I was confused too, but a lot of commenters brought up a good point. Fighting games let you configure the controls, so it's not TOO big of a deal if the button placements aren't optimal at the default settings since you can just tune them to your liking. Other games that don't let you configure the controls would benefit from having the button layout like L X R Y B A because the Y, B, and A buttons are very commonly used action buttons so it'd be easier to have them in a straight line. Imagine playing Mega Man and you want to jump and shoot. You just have to use the 2 buttons on the bottom left which are easy to access using your index and middle finger. If it was a layout that focused only on fighting games, the Y button would be above the B button so pressing them at the same time would be a little more challenging. I think that's really cool that the designers had the foresight to make that decision which initially seemed weird to us.

@@SodaCanTablet I mean, good point but I couldn't see myself playing megaman on an arcade like controller 😂 Well except for ones released for it I guess.

Thank you so much! Glad you enjoyed it. :^)

I haven't played SF6 so I'm not entirely sure, but it seems like the modern controls is pretty similar to the macros. The special macros are like the special move button and the combo macro is similar to the assisted combo feature. I hope I get to try SF6 one day to see haha. And thank you for the support! Glad you enjoyed the video. :^)

Oh huh it seems like a reconfigured version of the QJ Digital Action Learning System. The A1, A2, and A3 buttons are the macro buttons. Very interesting that they made an updated version of their controller. Thanks for letting me know about that. Hope you enjoyed the video!

derp mario kart is a bad example because both buttons jump/slide the same, but you get the idea- many games used positional left/right actions on L/R.

Yeah in retrospect, I think that was the right move since like you said, it makes the controllers compatible with a wider range of games and fighting game buttons could be remapped anyways. I think a good example is Mega Man since that was also made by Capcom, and the layout makes it easier to jump and shoot with your middle and index fingers respectively. If it was in a more fight stick focused layout, the buttons would be on top of each other rather than next to each other.

Ah yeah my bad. Audio processing is definitely one of my weaker points I'll keep that in mind for next time.

Thank you! Glad you enjoyed it. :^)

They should've ported Street Fighter Ex to N64 it would've been perfect with the 3D graphics. :^(

All hail Blahaj.

Ah yeah. The good thing is that modern sticks are really accessible and have tons of options. Hope you can get one you like!

@@SodaCanTablet I know it'll be a bit expensive to make my own... But I want to make my own. Making the whole thing to work with a USB port would be functional for a lot of retro games. Even just the box itself would be pricey to make. Then there's the motherboard, the buttons, stick... It's gonna be pricey.

I made a Hitbox style controller for a friend not too long ago for PC that uses USB. I used a Raspberry Pi Pico for the logic board with the GP2040 code you can find online. I prefer the Pico to the Brooke UFB mainly because Picos are only $5. If cost is the main hurdle, I'd look into the Pico board. It's definitely a big portion of the cost down if you use that instead of UFBs. And yeah the buttons and the stick are definitely the most expensive parts. Sticks being $30 and each button being $2, it can add up quickly. But since the Pi uses a standard USB cable, you can use it with your pc and any emulators. Also for the case, you can use wood like I did, or if there's a thrift store near you, I'd recommend dropping by occasionally and seeing if they have any good boxes. My local Goodwill has small wood boxes that I think were for jewelry that would make good arcade sticks. Whatever you decide to do, good luck with it I hope it turns out well. Lmk if there's some way I can help with your build too.

@@SodaCanTablet Thank you for the input. I have been wanting to put my Shop Class skills back into work for a custom fight stick. Though the work is gonna be a bit timely. I'll need to save up for the stick and buttons. I saw a good bundle for a stick and buttons on Amazon. The board though will be a separate expense. I plan to map the buttons and set it up to be like an SNES controller. Problem is I'll need to put the L, R, ZL, and ZR buttons appropriately. It'd have to be an 8-button style stick, and in the case of emulation, I could easily map the buttons. I just have to save up the money for the stuff on Amazon. For the art, I'm thinking of trying to get an artist to do some stuff of my favorite anime girls as something of a pinup style.

HAHA I'm honestly still very much learning but yeah maybe it's more than a hobby.

Did you know if you input the Konami code on the baby controller there's an Easter egg? That's my favorite part of it haha. And Classic DK sounds are so funny haha. Hope you enjoyed the video!

Yeah that feature was really common in this era for third party controllers.

HAHA thank you I appreciate the support. Glad you enjoyed the video! :^)