"Rory McIlroy, Don't Begrudge Other Players!" Greg Norman Debates LIV Golf With Piers Morgan

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  • Piers Morgan is joined by Australian golfing legend Greg Norman to debate the morality and viability of professional golfers switching from the PGA Tour to the new Saudi-backed LIV Golf. They discuss what it might do for developing the sport and also whether the morality of a tournament taking place in Saudi Arabia is acceptable when considering the culture's controversial stances on women's rights among other things.
    Greg believes that an injection of $2 billion into golf can only do good. When asked by Piers if he can separate the morality issues surrounding the LIV Tour, Greg says he looks at it solely as a product that will benefit the game and put more money in the pocket of golf players. When asked about Rory McIlroy's comments on the LIV golf tour "tearing golf apart", Greg suggests that he should not begrudge other players their decision as all golfers, including Rory, are "independent contractors".
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  • @billyoliveira910
    @billyoliveira910 Рік тому +20

    Excellent Interview. LIV Golf CEO Greg Norman and Piers Morgan did a great job. . Now lets Interview Jay Monahan. Lets get this settled and have a World Super Golf Championship with all the Tours in the future.

  • @GhostofEight
    @GhostofEight Рік тому +26

    Greg Norman has a brain. Well spoken. Great interview. I hope LIV succeeds. The sourness of the PGA has made me turn away from them and become a big LIV supporter.

    • @austi16
      @austi16 Рік тому

      Greg Norman is a reptilian shapeshifter making chemtrails. You let the white man bring you down smh

    • @RC-9
      @RC-9 Рік тому

      So you prefer 54 no cut silly team games with washed up golfers earning £zillions for “turning up” to historical PGA tournaments enabling young players to forge a living through hard work and talent … lol

  • @adrianbelcourt9640
    @adrianbelcourt9640 Рік тому +39

    This a mess for one simple reason: Arrogance and Entitlement of the PGA monopoly and it’s commissioner

    • @earnwithhearn180
      @earnwithhearn180 Рік тому +7

      Lol. The tour has their own rules and the players signed those rules. They could of played elsewhere but they signed tour rules. Now they want to violate those rules and sue the tour so they can play both tours? LIV doesn’t allow their players to do interviews without permission. Imagine an “independent contractor” who can’t speak without permission. Norman has been fighting with the tour for 30 years. This is his payback. So many uninformed people on here.

    • @adrianbelcourt9640
      @adrianbelcourt9640 Рік тому

      @@earnwithhearn180 I wish what you said was true but there’s overwhelming evidence that players were often given permission to play in non-sanctioned events. Can you say Tiger Woods! Greg Norman was given exemptions and the list goes on and on and on. The truth is the PGA monopoly, I’m not for profit one I might add, is fat and bloated and entitled. They make an absolute fortune off of their stars and will do anything and everything to shut them down when it does not suit their ends. The easy answer was for the PGA to have a little vision but they’ve not had it in 30 years. It’s an American tour for American players to make American money for their lifestyles. They are a long ways away from promoting golf at a global level

    • @outofbounds276
      @outofbounds276 Рік тому +2

      @@earnwithhearn180 Exactly right!

    • @ricokwan7178
      @ricokwan7178 Рік тому

      @@earnwithhearn180 Imagine how the World would be if we all just remain silent and do nothing when there is something not right at all? Moreover, is it reasonable and acceptable that a person who is guilty of one thing cannot criticize another' having done some other things wrong?

  • @holysmoker10
    @holysmoker10 Рік тому +7

    It’s simple to see, look at the players and how much fun they are having at a LIV tournament.
    Look at players at a pga event. They are stiff, there’s no fun, there’s no interaction with fans, or their fellow players.
    For the people that play, Golf is fun, and it should be fun.
    LIV = Funner Golf

    • @jimallan6751
      @jimallan6751 Рік тому

      He so far up himself me me me I'm the one I done this I done that he's a shister

  • @spencerphillips983
    @spencerphillips983 Рік тому +8

    best interview on LIV i've seen so far. Thanks Piers.

  • @mysb13
    @mysb13 Рік тому +17

    Pga supporters sounded sour and liv supporters sounded joyful.

    • @GhostofEight
      @GhostofEight Рік тому +1

      Yes!

    • @imemine6494
      @imemine6494 Рік тому +2

      .. Of course, they want something for not very much.. if your that good, play on the PGA.. greedy gits

  • @TitleWaive1
    @TitleWaive1 Рік тому +44

    This was great interview and Piers didn't shy away from tough questions. I'd love to see Piers interview Rory or Jay Monahan.

    • @JasonSchierling
      @JasonSchierling Рік тому +1

      Piers did an excellent job. Norman never answered the bug question - is it fair to criticize LIV because of Saudi involvement. Rory and Jay won't have any kind of questions like that.

    • @1362pc
      @1362pc Рік тому +7

      Monahan would does not have to courage to be interviewed by a real journalist

    • @glfxfa5452
      @glfxfa5452 Рік тому

      Maybe Piers can ask Rory how long was he sleeping w Meghan Markle. Or was he given a fee?

    • @kentvonmiddledorm677
      @kentvonmiddledorm677 Рік тому +1

      Maybe. but he let Greg deflect the thought question with one sentence answer rather than pushing the issuer. Anyways. Later.

    • @juanfrancisco8022
      @juanfrancisco8022 Рік тому +6

      @@JasonSchierling Well, the PGA is involved with the Saudis, China, and UAE. I would love to hear Rory respond to that.

  • @bradleystuart8608
    @bradleystuart8608 Рік тому +19

    Well done Piers!

  • @mandladludlu8359
    @mandladludlu8359 Рік тому +6

    What a great interview by Greg Norman and great journalism by Piers. And I don't normally agree with Piers but he did a great job here.....

  • @thomasemmet2177
    @thomasemmet2177 Рік тому +36

    This interview is excellent. Much needed detail in what’s become a mid-slinging cacophony.

  • @FAC1806
    @FAC1806 Рік тому +30

    Since when is competition not good?! Kudos to Greg & Liv Golf for shaking up the game of golf.

    • @danw5760
      @danw5760 Рік тому +1

      This is not free market competition, this is a state actor involving themselves, it's a whole different thing

    • @FAC1806
      @FAC1806 Рік тому +2

      I need more of an explanation from you about what you wrote.. since when are monopolies remotely a better thing in a commercial arena

    • @danw5760
      @danw5760 Рік тому +1

      @@FAC1806 I'm not saying pga tour was perfect or necessarily even good, but this type of competition, a foreign state intervening in the market for political purposes, is not the answer

    • @FAC1806
      @FAC1806 Рік тому +2

      @@danw5760 Political purposes? Really?

    • @danw5760
      @danw5760 Рік тому

      @@FAC1806 You're aware of who is behind Liv are you not?

  • @johnprendergast1338
    @johnprendergast1338 Рік тому +4

    With Norman it's not business --It's personal ..

  • @tuzaguilar4201
    @tuzaguilar4201 Рік тому +23

    Glad to hear Norman like this. He has grown the game. He is the perfect man to bring world golf to the fore.

    • @collydub1987
      @collydub1987 Рік тому +3

      What are you talking about? Golf has always been massive you absolute fool

    • @Aldini98
      @Aldini98 Рік тому +3

      Please explain how he has grown the game ?

    • @GWills-ys6rd
      @GWills-ys6rd Рік тому

      @@collydub1987 So why is the disparity between the PGA Tour and other worldwide tours so huge? Take a look at southern hemisphere golf as an example. Who's the fool now?

    • @davidwalker2402
      @davidwalker2402 Рік тому +3

      He is destroying the game..

    • @imemine6494
      @imemine6494 Рік тому

      .. You don't know much about this man then... he is a greedy, totally disloyal entitled arse.. sorry Greg your time has gone, you were a great golfer, even though you only won two majors.. now go to bed with your hot milk and biccies

  • @blakeeckel5056
    @blakeeckel5056 Рік тому +29

    I'm far from being pro-LIV, but Greg does bring up solid points regarding the PGA Tour finally forking out hefty payouts for tournaments. It shows the lack of transparency the PGA Tour has with its players, and if I were a player, I'd be pretty pissed it took a threat like LIV to for the PGA to drop its drawers and finally payout stipends for missed cuts and large payouts for players who make it. You're going to see moral issues with every major entity, whether its the PGA Tour or LIV Golf. I'm glad LIV has become a player, because it's forcing the PGA Tour to do what they should've done right after Tiger came onto the scene and literally generated the Tour billions.

    • @1362pc
      @1362pc Рік тому +1

      PHIL WAS RIGHT...

    • @austi16
      @austi16 Рік тому +1

      Sounds great on paper until you find out where the liv golf money is coming from lol

  • @VERTICALWisdom
    @VERTICALWisdom Рік тому +20

    Solid interview by Piers. Greg Norman is so professional and the LIV Tour is great for golf and all the best to the players and their families.

    • @patrickmccutcheon9361
      @patrickmccutcheon9361 Рік тому

      I like when Piers is like this. He is informed and asks the right questions and actually allows his interview to respond. Other times he and other journalists constantly interrupt their guests when they give answers that do not correspond with their narrative.

  • @selectmarketing844
    @selectmarketing844 Рік тому +18

    Yes golf needs a shake up. PGAT have run their 12 month tour at the expense of other tours: DP, Asia, Japan, Australia. The OWGR ranking system is biased golfers playing on the PGAT Tour. Its much harder for golfers in Europe and Asia to qualify for the majors. LIV a new format, think is aimed at younger fan so traditionalists dont like it. Some questionable negative campaigning from PGAT Pr team. So hope LIV succeeds!

  • @outofbounds276
    @outofbounds276 Рік тому +5

    I don't think anyone really pays attention as to how much the PGA Tour has grown in purse size over the years. Some players have indicated that some of these new programs implemented were discussed in the player advisory meetings over two years ago. The player that finished 160th on the PGA Tour earnings list made over $600,000 in 2021-2022 season. I don't get the one-sided view that is loosely discussed. LIV is simply buying these players, most of which are in the twilight of their careers. I don't get it.

    • @mineshjogia9945
      @mineshjogia9945 Рік тому +1

      Over two years ago, still is within the LIV era. Man you really are terrible at keeping track of anything, i'm surprised you manage to work out how to comment on YT.

    • @asdf09er
      @asdf09er Рік тому +2

      LMAO, you think that's a lot for professional sports? #160 in the NBA gets paid $8.75 million!!!! There is not a single NBA player that makes less than $1 million guaranteed each year. And how many men go out and buy thousands of dollars of basketball gear based on those guys vs. how many buy thousands of dollars of golf gear based on what the pros use.

  • @rosskennedy
    @rosskennedy Рік тому +6

    Piers Morgan has brought up goods and bad points,but with all pro and cons I think LIV will grow in next 2 years,it be world tour and not a USA tour as PGA is.

  • @mineshjogia9945
    @mineshjogia9945 Рік тому +7

    Long LIV tour 54!

  • @austinmeehan3522
    @austinmeehan3522 Рік тому +26

    I would want Greg as my commissioner if I was a pro golfer. He's definitely pro-players and wants the best for them.

    • @earnwithhearn180
      @earnwithhearn180 Рік тому +4

      Lol. He isn’t doing this for charity. Norman is a business man and has been at odds with the pga tour for 30 years. It’s personal for him IMO.

    • @outofbounds276
      @outofbounds276 Рік тому +5

      Greg is for Greg and Greg only. You'll see as this LIV mess proceeds.

    • @RC-9
      @RC-9 Рік тому

      🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

  • @FedupwiththeBS
    @FedupwiththeBS Рік тому +4

    What’s the difference between ARAMCO sponsorship in golf & LIV golf can someone please explain?

  • @Al-po2oh
    @Al-po2oh Рік тому +2

    I wish Piers would have asked Greg if he believes the PGA and it’s associated tours have a monopoly in golf. I believe it. World #1 for 6 years; let that sink in. I predict the players will come together and force a solution. The fans make this all possible. They deserve harmony. Respectfully

  • @DocPortland
    @DocPortland Рік тому +10

    I went to the LIV event in Portland OR and it was sensational. I hope they come back.

  • @KFB3
    @KFB3 Рік тому +3

    Love both tours,can’t understand why they can’t get along.

  • @kcook8023
    @kcook8023 Рік тому +33

    Rory screwed this whole thing up. He's making the PGA seem so weird. LIV is cool

    • @collydub1987
      @collydub1987 Рік тому +5

      It really isn't

    • @mcfch9625
      @mcfch9625 Рік тому

      @@collydub1987 you're far too polite.

    • @davidwalker2402
      @davidwalker2402 Рік тому

      Yeah so cool 150 people watching golfs elders …

    • @imemine6494
      @imemine6494 Рік тому +1

      .. No it is not... its for golfers past their best.. we have a seniors tour for that.. Rory is correct.. and I have not been his biggest fan

    • @kcook8023
      @kcook8023 Рік тому

      @@imemine6494 the senior tour is more enjoyable then the PGA tour right now

  • @dewetrobertson1752
    @dewetrobertson1752 Рік тому +31

    PGA think everyone should bow to them

    • @craigblock138
      @craigblock138 Рік тому

      You couldn’t be more wrong….. it’s Norman who thinks God should bow to him…….

    • @sialehakau1654
      @sialehakau1654 Рік тому

      PGA showing their Corp side. Aloha.

  • @kensussex2903
    @kensussex2903 Рік тому +1

    Excellent?! He asked Greg one tough question which he essentially avoided. Unfortunately Morgan isn't smart enough to ask the toughest questions. LIV will hurt the other tours because they don't have to worry about a sustainable business model due to the Saudi Money. LIV will lead to diluted leagues, which will hurt revenues of the major tours.

  • @aspendownhill7650
    @aspendownhill7650 Рік тому +2

    The test of time will be 2 years from now. If LIV can weather the effects of lack of press, exposure, fanbase, etc., I say well done and enjoy your new home. The controversy makes it front and center in the news right now, but that will end.

  • @dougkennedy5889
    @dougkennedy5889 Рік тому +3

    Team event is like 14 Ryder Cups a year? Greg what are you drinking. That comment is laughable.

  • @billmoyer3254
    @billmoyer3254 Рік тому +2

    Who in the hell says PGA owns the game of golf?

  • @marramarketintelligence1842
    @marramarketintelligence1842 Рік тому +5

    I'm an independent contractor who does work for law firms. If I start working for a competing law firm, my clients can cancel our agreement because they simply don't want me to help their competitors. I would never think to insist that I should have the unalienable right to work for both just because I say that I'm an independent contractor. In other words, they are telling me that if I work for a competitor they won't let me work for them. It's the same for LIV and PGA Tour. The Tour doesn't have to take meetings with a competitor and they don't have to allow players, especially when they are working in some regards as paid employees with all the ways that LIV regulates and pays their players, to just pop into their league whenever they want. Norman is a liar.

    • @michaelfohey5455
      @michaelfohey5455 Рік тому

      That is the best rebuttal I’ve heard to date, well said. PGA tour business model with sponsors is based on providing x% of available
      PGA players to each tournament, so approving releases to play elsewhere instead of that weeks event is part of that equation. That’s why it’s in the PGA player signed agreement.

    • @zubairhameed
      @zubairhameed Рік тому +2

      LIV players dont want to play in PGA tour. They want world ranking points and right to play in majors and Rider cup all of which currently is monopolized by PGA

    • @VLind-uk6mb
      @VLind-uk6mb Рік тому

      @@zubairhameed The PGA Tour has NOTHING to do with the majors, nor with the Ryder Cup. There seems to be some confusion here between the PGA and the PGA Tour. The PGA is like the R&A. The PGA Tour is a separate entity altogether-- it runs the competitive season, including the Presidents' Cup, which they do own, and the World Golf Championships (although they are nominally run by the International Federation of PGA Tours, which includes the European Tour and several others). Most of these tours are PGAs -- it stands for Professional Golf Association.
      The PGA runs the US Ryder Cup team (the DPWT, i.e. the European Tour, runs the European team). It runs one major, the PGA Championship. The Masters is run by Augusta National Golf Club and is an invitational. The Open is run by the R&A, and the US Open is run by the USGA. These four entities determine the composition of their respective fields.
      I agree that the LIV players are not all that set on playing on the PGA Tour -- several have said that one of the inducements to join LIV was to play less --but they need to play it and other Tours to maintain or improve their ranking points. What they want is for the OWGR to grant LIV ranking points. Which, if sanity prevails, it never will. Why should a "tour" of 48 players, playing only 54 holes without a cut, get points? The senior Tours, which only play 54 also, do not despite having full fields and cuts.
      LIV offers retirement plans for players whose careers are fading -- Pat Perez would have had a hard time getting into many PGA Tour events. Westwood and Poulter might always have a chance in Europe through invitations, as they are popular, but Westwood was about done on the PGAT and Poulter was headed there.
      Younger players, some very up and coming, opted for money rather than legacy. Good Lord, Pereira almost won the PGA as a ROOKIE. His future on the PGAT was golden. Henrik Stenson was ALREADY a Ryder Cup Captain; future shoo-ins Westwood, Poulter and Garcia may have sacrificed that opportunity. Cameron Smith, who doubtless is as money-conscious as the next player, was probably the most sincere about playing less -- he has often said he wished he could spend more time in Australia.
      It was a good interview. But Norman hedged on a Putin-sponsored tour. He does not give a damn about "morality." He is and always has been about money, and he makes few bones about it. LIV is, not purely but certainly simply, a commercial entity. And that, in the end, may be its undoing.

  • @gilbertlui820
    @gilbertlui820 Рік тому +8

    For those liv haters they should not be driving their cars with Saudi oil nor the pga fly with their private jet with Saudi fuel

    • @outofbounds276
      @outofbounds276 Рік тому

      We wouldn't need Saudi oil if we would tap into our own resources.

    • @teaandbiscuits1
      @teaandbiscuits1 Рік тому +1

      Just because our society has been structured in a way where we are dependent on their oil, it doesn't mean we don't have the right to critique their sport washing endeavours.

    • @SiLoMixMaster
      @SiLoMixMaster Рік тому

      @@teaandbiscuits1 Spoken like a complete hypocrite 🤣

  • @leonabc298
    @leonabc298 Рік тому +2

    Personally I’ve grown so tired of the PGA format, it’s become staid, boring and the same old every week. Haven’t bothered watching PGA since LIV arrived.

  • @ladgolf6330
    @ladgolf6330 Рік тому +10

    I've watched loads of LIV - nearly all of it tbh. Simply, I couldn't possibly find the time to do that with a tour event - LIV is easy, and fun to watch - something I can't say about a conventional tour event. Outside of the majors and a select few other events, golf can be a pretty boring watch in front of the televison, and LIV have obviously tried to fill that gap.

    • @dogguy8603
      @dogguy8603 Рік тому

      And regarding the Saudi stuff, yah the Saudis suck, but the PGA has taken its fair share of blood money

    • @NA-kr5uq
      @NA-kr5uq Рік тому +2

      LIV is a 3 day exhibition. You watch one less day of golf if you watch LIV vs PGA. So you're complaining about 1 additional day. And LIV has more fluff to make up for their lack of talent on the field. They're a sideshow act

  • @stephengraham5499
    @stephengraham5499 Рік тому +6

    Go LIV

  • @user-sf7gl1hv7r
    @user-sf7gl1hv7r 6 місяців тому

    Most of my golfing friends believe that if you offer to play a Ryder Cup match between the PGA TOUR and LIVGOLF teams, the PGA TOUR team will be afraid of this option and refuse to play with the LIVGOLF team under any pretext. The LIV team has as many stars as the PJGA TOUR team.

  • @GWills-ys6rd
    @GWills-ys6rd Рік тому +8

    In my opinion, it's not just hypocrisy, it's prejudice. Established Tours and some golf authorities have seemingly acted appallingly.

  • @Itsthejourneynotthedestination

    Here's my take on the interview, it was open and frank but in my opinion the players who went created a problem with the utter BS they came away with. Saying they were doing it to grow the game, so they can be with their families more etc had they said...hell ye, they are paying a shitload of cash, why not ! That for me created the divide.

    • @mineshjogia9945
      @mineshjogia9945 Рік тому +1

      So players choosing to do what is best for them caused a divide for you? Grow a god damn pair!!! P.S if you'd bother to listen to any presser with both ears, every single LIV golfers has acknowledged they are going for the money. And having others reasons is not mutually exclusive. And you'll find only a handful of players of the 48 said anything about playing less and more family time, which again i don't know why you would have an issue with. This applies to every golfer on every tour when it comes to wanting to play for more money and still wanting more family time.

    • @billmoyer3254
      @billmoyer3254 Рік тому

      think about that on your way to work tomorrow. you are there for what?

    • @decentcomment9447
      @decentcomment9447 Рік тому +1

      @@mineshjogia9945 I think you’ll find that the main players who people actually knew who went to liv started off by saying everything other than that they were going for money. They absolutely did say they were going to grow the game and that they were happy they got to play less golf and be with their families but then out their names on a lawsuit so they could play pga tour ? Make it make sense. Only a couple like Richard bland and pat Perez were honest from the beginning

  • @collydub1987
    @collydub1987 Рік тому +1

    I remember Piers asking why someone wasn't protesting the visit of the Saudis to the UK.

  • @davidquinn7144
    @davidquinn7144 Рік тому +1

    One of the only times I have agreed with. Mr Morgan . Did I just say that. Wow.

  • @oahujuniorgolfassociationc6656

    Half way thru this video I never realized What a great interviewer Pierce is.

  • @MarkG1189
    @MarkG1189 Рік тому

    After watching the Adelaide round, I'm sold. As golf fans and also weekend golfers we've got options

  • @garygemmell3488
    @garygemmell3488 Рік тому +3

    Professional golfers. A bunch of rich men trying to get richer.

  • @robbragg5712
    @robbragg5712 Рік тому +1

    Can’t argue with any of the points. We would have competition laws in business to stop this anywhere else

  • @tomconnolly8071
    @tomconnolly8071 Рік тому +1

    The fans will decide and the whole issue will resolve itself.
    Individual players and fans will look at their own morality.

  • @fredulanday
    @fredulanday Рік тому +1

    The problem is when Liv golfers wanna play PGA tour events and get world ranking points for LIV events. They can play with LIV all they want but they want to have it both ways. Chose one and stop crying

  • @seanoconnor5638
    @seanoconnor5638 Рік тому +3

    If LIV want to "grow" the game they need to forget about NETWORKS and keep it free on UA-cam. Bring it to the nine year old kid in Somalia. Easy access for every race/class and colour. I'm sure the players would take a pay cut to do "good for the game"

    • @dru9217
      @dru9217 Рік тому +3

      they literally only left the PGA for more money... no other reason... as if theyre going to ever take a cut at this point

  • @robl7559
    @robl7559 Рік тому +1

    Gee Tiger and Rory ...... what yah doin bros.... We had Safeway and a Coop grocery for many tears in our neighborhood ..... lol one day Costco came and a few months after Wholefoods too .... people were enjoying they had choices and it was amazing... the more the merrier... i see absolutely nothing wrong with Pro or Amateur Golfers playing various tournaments... PGA is great ... LIV is COOL !!

  • @KingpinPadre
    @KingpinPadre Рік тому +1

    Baffling that the PGA Tour was able to turn over the couch cushions and, PRESTO!, a humongous increase in purses. I'm not happy with the way LIV has gone about a few things, but their actions have pumped big-time coin into professional golf. The PGA Tour has been quite petty in their defenses.

  • @earnwithhearn180
    @earnwithhearn180 Рік тому +7

    The pga tour has their rules. The “independent contractors” signed those rules. They could of chose to play elsewhere but they chose to sign tour rules and now they are trying to sue and tell the pga tour they should get to play both tours. Just go to LIV and be gone. Norman fails to tell Piers that he cut off players from signing because he could only pay so many. So LIV isn’t even an option for all players right now. PGA tour has a right to have their own rules. Players can leave if they don’t like it. . Norman has had bad blood with the PGA tour for 30 years. People in here are clueless.

    • @1362pc
      @1362pc Рік тому

      LIV players don't want to go back to a place that hates them, and banned them as members illegally

    • @katking6820
      @katking6820 Рік тому +2

      Some people are clueless for sure. The PGA tour has had a monopoly on the sport for a very long time. Some players knew that the PGA tour was withholding 100s of millions from the players. It’s not about where the Liv money is coming from obviously.We all know almost all the PGA tour sponsors are huge corporations that take Saudi money as well as the US government doing billions of dollars in business each yr. Funny that the PGA tour was able to scrounge up a couple hundred million to add to the PGA tour next yr. So yes at least one person is a bit uninformed.

    • @steveg209
      @steveg209 Рік тому

      LIV doesn’t let everyone play LIV tourneys. Why does the PGA Tour have let everyone play their tourneys? LIV has qualifications and requirements that their players must follow in order to play their events. So does the PGA Tour.

    • @904Zambo
      @904Zambo Рік тому +1

      This argument is so flawed. The PGA Tour has allowed its players to play on other Tour's for years. They decided to not allow LIV Tour events because they see it as a threat to their monopoly. Had they PGA Tour paid players based on their value from the start, then LIV would've never gotten off the ground.

    • @steveg209
      @steveg209 Рік тому

      @@904Zambo yes, they’ve allowed them to play on other tours, but that’s the point, right? The Tour decides if a player playing elsewhere is good or bad for the Tour, and makes their call. If the Tour says no, then that’s the Tour’s call. How is that flawed?

  • @pauljames8222
    @pauljames8222 Рік тому +2

    Hopefully Liv Golf gets involved with FPGA 🇫🇯 🙏 #fijiOrganisation# in future

  • @chrismorgan9460
    @chrismorgan9460 Рік тому +1

    Was more pro pga but gotta give Greg Norman credit for this interview. Just wish they could knock heads with each other

  • @philgallier3037
    @philgallier3037 Рік тому +1

    Like Greg says Saint McIlroy turned his back on the European Tour to chase the dollar on the PGA tour so what's the difference here that all the top players have defected to LIV to chase the bigger dollar. Rory needs a reality chaeck.

    • @decentcomment9447
      @decentcomment9447 Рік тому

      He went to the pga tour because that’s where the best players are. That’s always been the case. All the top players haven’t went to liv only about 3 of the top 15 went so yeah, not quite.

  • @alistairverdin4859
    @alistairverdin4859 Рік тому +4

    He should be a politition. Avoids questions well.

  • @richardphillips5158
    @richardphillips5158 Рік тому +1

    Norman lies right from the start: he says LIV players can play anywhere and any time they want. WRONG! They have to play the LIV tournaments. They can't say "thanks for all the Saudi money but I am going to play elsewhere during your next tournament." Even Mickelson acknowledges that the LIV contract is stricter than the PGAT, but is "worth it" because of all the Saudi cash. Good grief, some great principles.

    • @VLind-uk6mb
      @VLind-uk6mb Рік тому

      They also have to shill for the LIV tour all the time and act enthusiastic about team golf. I don't think any of the veteran Ryder Cup players would agree with Norman that it is 14 Ryder Cups a year.

  • @patrickmccann8701
    @patrickmccann8701 Рік тому +3

    Greg Norman was a natural golfer. Now he's using this 'confidence' naturally off the golf course with LIV. ⛳🤜

  • @charlesdoyle5931
    @charlesdoyle5931 Рік тому +8

    Great interview well done Morgan. Scotland gifted the world with the game of golf . Get it sorted NOW angry Scot 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿🏌️‍♀️⛳👍

  • @eamonnoneill1340
    @eamonnoneill1340 Рік тому +2

    Have no problem with players going to liv golf for the money but there’s no way they can play in the majors or the Ryder cup can’t have your cake and eat it too

    • @mineshjogia9945
      @mineshjogia9945 Рік тому

      Man this "have your cake and eat it" comment is just the most annoying copy paste PGAT propaganda out there, usually repeated by people who have no clue the majors are not the PGAT, nor is the Ryder Cup and the LIV is not a competitor to either.

    • @eamonnoneill1340
      @eamonnoneill1340 Рік тому +1

      What I mean is they cannot qualify to play because there playing a different kind of golf tournament which is pretty simple to understand I thought

    • @mineshjogia9945
      @mineshjogia9945 Рік тому

      @@eamonnoneill1340 They're not playing a different kind of golf tournament though. They are literally playing just 18 holes less, everything else is the same more or less, played under R&A/USGA rules.
      If you actually think about it, a regular 72 hole tournament is actually two back to back 36 hole events, with the first 36 dictating where you start the last 36. And the first 36 is played by so many golfers, the field always breaks into a good and a bad side of the draw. Basically a 72 hole tourney, is actually two back to back 36 holes events with a bunch of luck thrown in over the first 36, and unfair/really good starting score for the last 36 depending on which side of the draw you fell on in the first 36. This makes it less superior to a 54 hole, shotgun start, no cut event, where everyone plays all 54 in same conditions.
      Then we have the fact, the current OWGR is able to rank tournaments with 54 holes just like it could any other format (so they got no excuses really), and if they refuse to, others such as datagolf are showing how it can be done. This is just math's and can easily be done. This is far simpler math's than calculating orbits of satellites. Give me couple hours and i could come up with half a dozen rankings systems. What amazes me, is how the OWGR can give points at the Tour Championship, which is a limited field event, no cut, and players don't even start on the same score. Nothing gets weirder than that and they still manage to figure out how to give points. And worse still Will Z got points for the event and he did not even hit a shot. This is one of many examples. So when OWGR or the PGAT and their sheep say it's doesn't fit the criteria/rules or they are not playing the same as us, and whatever other excuse they come up with, it's all bs.
      As for qualifying via other methods outside of rankings such as Open/US Open qualifiers, or winning events (which admittedly you need to have qualified for) that get you in does not impact LIV golfers or change anything about how they work unless they ban LIV players from playing qualifiers. Which if they did, the majors would lose credibility and be in a massive legal battle. So nothing changes. now the PGAT/DPWT will try and limit events to LIV players so they cannot qualify that way. But that is an action taken by spiteful tours, not the R&A or the other major organizers.

    • @eamonnoneill1340
      @eamonnoneill1340 Рік тому

      Look at the end of the day I think the vast majority of pro golfers and golf fans have no interest what so ever in liv which is why no tv network will buy it and the Saudi royal family are going to have to buy time on fox sports channel to get it on tv I think that says it all don’t you pathetic really

  • @thepimpernel6971
    @thepimpernel6971 Рік тому +1

    What LIV has exposed is that the PGA tour or its players have been undersold. Norman looks back at Kerry Packer and what he did to cricket around the world. Not a fan of the Saudi's but Norman is right the players are independent contractors.

  • @paulw6183
    @paulw6183 Рік тому +7

    LIV could easily run alongside the PGA

    • @imemine6494
      @imemine6494 Рік тому

      .. Oh yeah, how, when all the best players are on the PGA???

    • @noonan395
      @noonan395 Рік тому +1

      Already Has !! PGA Tour is done Tiger 🐅 can barely walk

    • @SiLoMixMaster
      @SiLoMixMaster Рік тому +1

      @@imemine6494 12 of the last 24 majors were won by LIV players.....and the best player in the world Cam Smith and winner of the most recent major just left the PGAT for LIV

    • @imemine6494
      @imemine6494 Рік тому

      @@SiLoMixMaster.. 24 majors???.. thats over six year period.. I don't think the likes of mcdowell for example, would win another major... do you?

    • @SiLoMixMaster
      @SiLoMixMaster Рік тому +1

      @@imemine6494 Well he's won the same amount of majors in the past 6 years as his fellow Northern Irishman Rory so you tell me 🤣🤣

  • @johngarnergarner6724
    @johngarnergarner6724 Рік тому +4

    I can't argue with anything Greg Norman said. Here's why LIV will be successful, I believe. Over the years there have been many attempts to create competing sports leagues here in the US. In particular, this has been true with professional football. Without exception all these upstarts failed because they could not attract the top players in the NFL. The money just wasn't there. An anomaly would be Major League Soccer. By any measure it has been successful. That's because we didn't have a competing league, for instance like the English Premier League. LIV has already attracted many of the top players in the world
    and will probably continue to do so. So the PGA and DP World Tours are constantly under pressure and they will ultimately have to accomodate LIV Golfers. If not, they will be left with a lot of players we've never heard of. It seems to me that the PGA Tour made a strategic mistake by banning players. Doing so does nothing but hurt the PGA Tour. I'd also add that the most critical element for LIV's long term success is getting a main stream TV deal. Fox for example. I just don't think they are going to get that many viewers by streaming their tournaments. Once they secure a TV deal it's game over. And that's just a matter of time.

  • @skipcampbell239
    @skipcampbell239 3 місяці тому +1

    PGA is crooked as hell...

  • @simonbagel
    @simonbagel Рік тому +1

    17:29 A question born from profound historical ignorance.

  • @xman9190
    @xman9190 Рік тому +1

    What Greg didn't address is what's in it for the Saudis? It's not profit, it's not sports washing, it's not just to give the players another option. Then what is it?

    • @VLind-uk6mb
      @VLind-uk6mb Рік тому

      It IS sports washing, and it IS about money.But it is just because there is so much money in Saudi that they can wait for return on investment. But there are already rumblings that they are dissatisfied that there was so little return the first season. If it does not graph sharply upward in Season 2, LIV may be in trouble.

    • @xman9190
      @xman9190 Рік тому

      @@VLind-uk6mb
      It IS NOT about money. It'll be a long time, if ever, before the Saudis see a return on their investment and they know that.

    • @bobbowie9350
      @bobbowie9350 Рік тому

      Some were speculating its a way into the corporate sponsors.

  • @Wisdumb1984
    @Wisdumb1984 Рік тому

    The only Piers Morgan-led interview worth watching.

  • @alexvalentine8724
    @alexvalentine8724 10 місяців тому

    Greg has been a player at the top for so long best driver of the golf ball ever go hard Greg love the LIV format.

  • @1362pc
    @1362pc Рік тому +2

    Greg is THE golf innovator and leader right now, and Monahan is the one chasing him to copy his ideas

    • @RC-9
      @RC-9 Рік тому

      Who wants 54 non cut tournaments with silly team games played by washes up golfers just in it for the easy pay day .. LMFAO 🤣

  • @galatians22122
    @galatians22122 Рік тому +1

    GO LIV!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • @terrymetcalfe615
    @terrymetcalfe615 Рік тому +1

    Would you still promote LIV without the obscene amount of money.

  • @basha0810
    @basha0810 Рік тому +3

    I just love Greg. I think what he's done is amazing. He's been working on this concept for 30 years. Rory is a bully and needs to keep his mouth shut. The guys at LIV are the cream of the crop and they're having fun. I haven't watched the PGA since LIV started in June. I'm done with the PGA. Their true colors came out and I want no part of it. I can't stomach the players left there that are so bitter against these great guys on LIV. It's such a shame. Well done Greg! Stay strong and keep making LIV the best ever, the future of golf!!!

    • @NA-kr5uq
      @NA-kr5uq Рік тому

      You sound like an emotional Trumper. Kiss Greg's as while saying 'Rory is a bully who needs to keep is his mouth shut' also 'the guys at LIV are the cream of the crop' 🤣 no they're not. The majority of their players are washed up and are known more for their controversial opinions than their talent

    • @VLind-uk6mb
      @VLind-uk6mb Рік тому

      Hardly the cream of the crop. Perez? Now Brendan Steele?

  • @markloveridge4605
    @markloveridge4605 Рік тому +1

    The business model as mentioned is the money after that it’s only golf

  • @christianhennessey1191
    @christianhennessey1191 Рік тому +1

    Great interview Piers.

  • @bobsnooker.3950
    @bobsnooker.3950 Рік тому +1

    Great interview but Greg skirting away from some real issues. He is splitting the golf world whatever way you look at it.

  • @gh4121-b5n
    @gh4121-b5n Рік тому

    People say guys going to LIV get big bucks, But what’s never said is to get those big bucks the players Must play all the LIV events. So some get 50-150 mill to jump from the PGA and they must play all 7-8 events in 2022. Next season there’ll be about 14 events. I like LIV and seldom if ever watch the PGA anymore. Maybe just some Senior events, but this is a new way to play golf. Many PGA guys say “well there’s no cuts”, then what are the WGC Events then? The WGC events are exactly LIV Tourneys with single players, and no cuts, and only 64 players.

  • @greatwhiteshark9192
    @greatwhiteshark9192 Рік тому +1

    There's probably 3 guys holding the PGA tour together right now.. JT Rory and speith!!the rest can go if they want but if 1 of those 3 go..well..it's disastrous for the tour!!

    • @Possumzz
      @Possumzz Рік тому +1

      You forgot to mention Rahm. Spieth is a no one. He has been horrible for the longest time.

    • @VLind-uk6mb
      @VLind-uk6mb Рік тому

      @@Possumzz And Scheffler, and Schauffele. And a LOT more. Look, the PGA Tour's old slogan was true" These guys are GOOD." As they are on the European Tour, and the Japan Tour, and the Sunshine and the Australian. And many others.

  • @williamansel1090
    @williamansel1090 Рік тому

    Well said, the PGA does not have the right to tell these guys where they can and cannot play.

  • @jacob4183
    @jacob4183 Рік тому +1

    Greg is wrong you started a tour directly opposing the European and PGA tour of course they aren't going to celebrate you on their tours. He is way off on that.

  • @mick6949
    @mick6949 Рік тому +2

    Is Rory getting paid from PGA to diss Liv??? I'm a big fan if his but the prettiness from him and PGA and Uther's is embarrassing to the sport

  • @richardstanton6387
    @richardstanton6387 Рік тому

    Great interview and great honesty. Well done!!

  • @johnjames6620
    @johnjames6620 Рік тому +8

    The Saudis with Kashaggi, ok, but what about USA and UK with Assange (for starters)? What about what the USA did with Covid?

    • @collydub1987
      @collydub1987 Рік тому

      What did the USA do with COVID?

    • @johnjames6620
      @johnjames6620 Рік тому

      @@collydub1987 Covid came from a lab leak arising from research sponsored by the USA. China, of course, is also culpable. Who is not culpable are countries like Sweden, Australia, India, Brazil, Russia, South Africa, Mexico, Indonesia, amongst many others!

  • @ezgolfer2
    @ezgolfer2 Рік тому

    I’ve watched LIV Golf every chance I got. Because of the PGA response, I’ve stopped watching the PGA

  • @luisfelipegomezdemariaca9391

    is it fair that a player can obtain OWGR points by playing 54 holes with no cut, against a player playing 72 passing cut?

  • @wildebeest88
    @wildebeest88 Рік тому

    Rory didn't leave the European tour, he is still a member. Greg distorts Rory's move to the PGA tour. It wasn't for the money as Greg claims. It was to play the best players in the world. I.e. Tiger, etc.
    It's pretty obvious Greg has issues with the PGA tour.........for a long time.

  • @markcrawford4912
    @markcrawford4912 Рік тому +1

    Rory never left the European tour just for more money he done it to play with the best players in the world the PGA players left to go to LIV purely for money nothing else

    • @A-FrameWedge
      @A-FrameWedge Рік тому

      @Mark Crawford That is because all the best players from around the world came to play the PGA Tour because they offered the most Prize money. If there was a golf tour other than the PGA tour that came around in say the 1950’s that offered the most money by a wide margin, the players would of played there.

    • @karenolmstead9734
      @karenolmstead9734 Рік тому

      You state this as fact when you don't know what their motivation was.

    • @VLind-uk6mb
      @VLind-uk6mb Рік тому

      Rory did NOT leave the European Tour. Like many others he is a dual member. Has to be, of course. You have to be a member of the ET (now the DPWT) to play Ryder Cup.

  • @ancil57
    @ancil57 Рік тому

    No one is begrudging DEATH Tour golfers. Straight cash, homie. But don't take the money and then try to force your way into other tours later. If the DEATH Tour is going great, you should be happy with your big purses, guaranteed money, exhibition-style golf, and anonymity relative to television coverage.

  • @kentsnider3644
    @kentsnider3644 Рік тому

    Take your "platform" and operate it as you see fit. Offer a viable alternative to fans and players who prefer it to the PGA. You can't claim to want to be a part of a system that you won't be happy with until you change it.

  • @mauricemoore6679
    @mauricemoore6679 Рік тому

    WELL THE MAJOURS WILL NOT BAN LIV PLAYERS BECAUSE WITHOUT THEM ITS NOT A MAJOUR

  • @scottmallory298
    @scottmallory298 Рік тому

    There must have been a deal to be had here. Given that with only a handful of exceptions, LIV is full of players who are over the hill, why couldn't LIV have simply funded the Senior / Champions Tour

    • @bigyt813
      @bigyt813 Рік тому

      No one watches that tour.. Ive never watching one seniors event. ive watched LIV 3 weeks now and Im becoming a fan. Money talks bullshit walks

  • @neilshirley
    @neilshirley Рік тому +2

    Was Piers paid for this ‘interview’ by LIV?

  • @weSnooker
    @weSnooker Рік тому +1

    The heart and soul of everything will eventually be dead and the world will be full of people with no personality or respect

  • @mikeg.5233
    @mikeg.5233 Рік тому

    What a group of billionaire children arguing about “my backyard”. No sympathy from me, shut up and play the game, if you can’t compete, sit and watch. 😪😪😪

  • @lazerpug4416
    @lazerpug4416 Рік тому +1

    Tiger woods the greatest ever player knows best and thinks Liv is a shambles and it is!! Morgan is a complete clown 🤡

  • @frankaq3951
    @frankaq3951 Рік тому

    What a joke! Fifty-four hole, no-cut tournaments where everyone gets paid, no matter how they play...wow, what excitement.

  • @coobay4786
    @coobay4786 Рік тому +2

    I'll be watching LIV this weekend.

  • @Pesto-64
    @Pesto-64 Рік тому

    I don’t have a favorite here but what about Nike, a Chinese company known for human rights violations, who sponsors Tiger, Rory, and others on the PGA (and other sports). I can’t be the only one who sees the hypocrisy.

  • @davek8178
    @davek8178 Рік тому +1

    PIERS AND Greg alternative facts. Right out of the Trump playbook.

  • @darraghobrien7110
    @darraghobrien7110 Рік тому

    Greg norman got some bag to support this

  • @jasonstampka2555
    @jasonstampka2555 Рік тому +1

    Can Liv players skip a liv event to play pga no independent contractors my ass

  • @josephharley9448
    @josephharley9448 Рік тому +1

    Only one problem Greg. Watching LIV golf is absoute rubbish. Of course the players love it you knob, they are getting handed grotesque amounts of money just for turning up.

  • @tonybroadhead341
    @tonybroadhead341 Рік тому

    Nothing said about liv golf getting rid of 4 players to make way for 4 others as it’s limited to 48 players 🤷🏻‍♂️ 😡😡😡

    • @tonybroadhead341
      @tonybroadhead341 Рік тому

      @Jackie Jay that’s not fair cos if those players Chuck there Pga tour cards they’ll be left with no tour to play hope this liv fails 🤭