I notice that Ping often puts the blame back on Will and struggles with looking at her feelings. The ability to understand what you are feeling is a key turning point in therapy and she’s not quite there yet.
The fact that people are in the comments blaming either of them is sad and not the point of the show, it getting people to open up be vulnerable and undertsand the other parties perspective. Not to blame each other. I am glad that rhey came to the conclusion it wasn't working. No point in wasting more time. Wish them luck and move on.
This doctor is the best…My former husband & I went to a psychologist..after pouring my heart out ( he was having an emotional affair with a much younger woman) the therapist said “ why haven’t you two fixed this yourselves?” WTF..that was an hour & $$$$$ wasted !!
She might have worded it wrong. Maybe she means, what is it that has made the conflict resolution break down. What is the obstacle you both haven’t been able to hurdle.
That is a great question! The therapist is asking you to identify what it is you specifically think you need help with (communication, anger, threats, etc). When you admit you have not fixed it because of X...X becomes the thing all 3 of you can go after.
She was frustrated at him because he wasn’t fulfilling her emotional needs. She’s the “man” in the relationship and having that off balance doesn’t work!
@@Allinmyworld yes for sure! I can unfortunately relate. I was wayyy checked out of the relationship by the time my ex and I broke up and I became angry like she did. Not my proudest moment, but I can understand her
It almost seems as if she is abrasive to get a reaction out of him. She keeps throwing jabs at him, say a lot of hurtful things about him and ask questions to the therapist, but they seem to be meant for him. If she is sitting there and saying she is done, it doesn't seem that way - but then what do I know... just my impression in this situation
I feel sorry for her. It looks like the marriage is coming to an end because he wasn’t committed to working on himself although he knew his pattern all along
I know a lot of the comments here are very erudite and thought out... but watching this whenever they pan to him I kept thinking "this man looks like you mushed together Aaron Rodgers and Macauley Culkin".
That's one way to look at it. From my perspective, he wants to express himself but is met with hyper criticism time and time again. In his mind, his attempts are never good enough for her, resulting in shutdown. It's kind of like trying a new hobby, and your mentor keeps saying " wrong " with every attempt. It's gonna be hard to show up
Felt so terrible for Ping tbh. Watching the full season, it was obvious that Will was very self centered and selfish. Never wanted to put in any effort. Ping was essentially his way of getting back at his mom imo. The therapist even states at one point she wishes she could put Will into a therapy bootcamp, because he just doesnt care at all about anything that isnt fun. It's alarming. It was clear he had used her and driven her to the edge then played victim. Sad.
That woman is misunderstood… do you know how exhausting it can be to hold 2 people together ?? she has to uplift herself and tend to him.. and if she’s lucky enough to have inner motivation, happiness and inner strength.. she’s the only person carrying both of them.. that’s why she’s crying wolf “I’m done” she doesn’t want it to be really be done, she’s queuing him up, I’m done carrying the 2 of us, it’s a heavy load.. Yoo hoo, hint hint, how bout you step it up and pull your weight here?? He’s harvesting from her , but doesn’t know how to use the relationship irrigation system..
I wonder if what's making him so...unresponsive to her is because he goes straight to "well, she's already angry, there's NOTHING that can be done to fix this" rather than "alright, this isn't working. let me try something else, let me get to the bottom of this." And maybe, by this point, it is too late for them because this cycle has been going on for too long.
It seems to me like she got really angry while he was speaking, and was all of a sudden very sure she was "done" not because she genuinely feels that way, but because she was angry.
I don't know why he doesn't just walk out after being told he's useless. It's time to collect your stuff guy and get a room somewhere. The therapist even hinted that she's just trying to extract concessions.
I've been in this dynamic, it's so sad and so toxic😢 got to work trough it for myself, it's been a rollercoaster but boy did I learn something about myself, myself in relationships and just people and psychology in general🙌🏻✨️🫢
Two long term relationships. One girlfriend, one wife. Each decided we needed to go to couples therapy. Each proactively chose a female therapist. Each was truly only looking for professional validation of her desire to dump me. Could have saved significant amounts of time, money and aggravation and just dumped me up front.
“Ping”?! Really? Meanwhile, she “observing” from her galaxy far, far away … that he’s “closed off”.. poor chap… then again, frankly, he chose to ‘couple’ with a ping .. However, was he always like this … before Pingy… ? But then, when he gets a few words in, saying that perhaps they are over.. she immediately attacks .. her voice roughens even as it goes up .. she takes centre stage, again.. MEGA MOUTH, micro mind.
I notice that Ping often puts the blame back on Will and struggles with looking at her feelings. The ability to understand what you are feeling is a key turning point in therapy and she’s not quite there yet.
The fact that people are in the comments blaming either of them is sad and not the point of the show, it getting people to open up be vulnerable and undertsand the other parties perspective. Not to blame each other. I am glad that rhey came to the conclusion it wasn't working. No point in wasting more time. Wish them luck and move on.
This exactly. ❤
There’s is only 3 words to describe this relationship; “nothing is coming”
2:02 She gets it. I know its a show, but there is something he is holding onto that he needs to be released.
It isn’t just a show. This is real couples going through real therapy with a real licensed therapist
This doctor is the best…My former husband & I went to a psychologist..after pouring my heart out ( he was having an emotional affair with a much younger woman) the therapist said “ why haven’t you two fixed this yourselves?” WTF..that was an hour & $$$$$ wasted !!
Therapist here. That is not necessarily a bad question. Maybe if it was phrased, "What comes in the way of you trying to fix this issue?"
She might have worded it wrong. Maybe she means, what is it that has made the conflict resolution break down. What is the obstacle you both haven’t been able to hurdle.
That is a great question! The therapist is asking you to identify what it is you specifically think you need help with (communication, anger, threats, etc). When you admit you have not fixed it because of X...X becomes the thing all 3 of you can go after.
You dont need someones permission to DIVORCE if you dont feel it you just don't Move out and move on 😊
Exactly. She said she's done but still sees a couple in therapy.
It took me so long to believe that reality but it’s so true!
They are one of the couples on here that i want them to break up so bad!! Ping hated him and was so mean to him
She was frustrated at him because he wasn’t fulfilling her emotional needs. She’s the “man” in the relationship and having that off balance doesn’t work!
@@pupplylove3003 She didn't have an patience or empathy for him at that point break up
@@Allinmyworld yes for sure! I can unfortunately relate. I was wayyy checked out of the relationship by the time my ex and I broke up and I became angry like she did. Not my proudest moment, but I can understand her
It almost seems as if she is abrasive to get a reaction out of him. She keeps throwing jabs at him, say a lot of hurtful things about him and ask questions to the therapist, but they seem to be meant for him. If she is sitting there and saying she is done, it doesn't seem that way - but then what do I know... just my impression in this situation
They trigger each other
Because their relationship started out on the wrong foot with both of them being in poly relationships.
Never tell someone “hopeless”.
People close off when youre are constantly around angry partners.
Maybe they should do couples therapy with couples that have a good relationship... Might be good to see those couples
Why would u go to therapy when u all good though
@irissejake4619 the best couples I know do therepy to make their relationship even better. It's like going to the gym. Preventative maintenance.
At least they realised it's over, too bad they didn't just leave it before couldve saved therapy money 😂
That guy I feel sorry for. I don’t know what’s going on, but he’s sad and upset. And hate to see humans feel hurt and sad.
He's probably sad and hurt because it's coming to an end. Sometimes people grow out of love and need to go their separate ways
Yeah it’s always sad when marriages start failing
I feel sorry for her. It looks like the marriage is coming to an end because he wasn’t committed to working on himself although he knew his pattern all along
@@qusmable ☝️- AND SHE KNEW HIS PATTERNS AS WELL 🥲🫣😬😢
He's emotionally exhausted dealing with her
I know a lot of the comments here are very erudite and thought out... but watching this whenever they pan to him I kept thinking "this man looks like you mushed together Aaron Rodgers and Macauley Culkin".
Wow! He is such a wall! Emotionless no.connection what's so ever. Poor woman has been by herself for sooo long.
That's one way to look at it.
From my perspective, he wants to express himself but is met with hyper criticism time and time again. In his mind, his attempts are never good enough for her, resulting in shutdown.
It's kind of like trying a new hobby, and your mentor keeps saying " wrong " with every attempt. It's gonna be hard to show up
He is saying it...its done.
I don't get it, Ping said she's done but still tries to go see couples therapy. If she’s done, she should’ve closed the door and left, moved on.
As a last attempt to “repair” the relationship, I reckon she just needed to hear it from a professional.
That was her last cry for help
Felt so terrible for Ping tbh. Watching the full season, it was obvious that Will was very self centered and selfish. Never wanted to put in any effort. Ping was essentially his way of getting back at his mom imo. The therapist even states at one point she wishes she could put Will into a therapy bootcamp, because he just doesnt care at all about anything that isnt fun. It's alarming. It was clear he had used her and driven her to the edge then played victim. Sad.
That woman is misunderstood… do you know how exhausting it can be to hold 2 people together ?? she has to uplift herself and tend to him.. and if she’s lucky enough to have inner motivation, happiness and inner strength.. she’s the only person carrying both of them.. that’s why she’s crying wolf “I’m done” she doesn’t want it to be really be done, she’s queuing him up, I’m done carrying the 2 of us, it’s a heavy load.. Yoo hoo, hint hint, how bout you step it up and pull your weight here?? He’s harvesting from her , but doesn’t know how to use the relationship irrigation system..
I wonder if what's making him so...unresponsive to her is because he goes straight to "well, she's already angry, there's NOTHING that can be done to fix this" rather than "alright, this isn't working. let me try something else, let me get to the bottom of this." And maybe, by this point, it is too late for them because this cycle has been going on for too long.
It’s a type of helplessness since he has deep seated mommy issues too.
becaude he doesnt care about HER. he cares about what hes able to extract from her.@madamoisellechampignon5340
It seems to me like she got really angry while he was speaking, and was all of a sudden very sure she was "done" not because she genuinely feels that way, but because she was angry.
I don't know why he doesn't just walk out after being told he's useless. It's time to collect your stuff guy and get a room somewhere. The therapist even hinted that she's just trying to extract concessions.
He is so quite hes frustrating me from far
That man ran away from her. She is too aggressive and abusive.
He’s very low energy and detached… being with him would frustrate me.
Yup
Honestly, I would be too if any time I tried to express something I got shut down or told to stop whining. She's explosive.
@@diamcole True, you have a point
I've been in this dynamic, it's so sad and so toxic😢 got to work trough it for myself, it's been a rollercoaster but boy did I learn something about myself, myself in relationships and just people and psychology in general🙌🏻✨️🫢
He's low energy probably because he's been worn down by that awful woman's neediness, demands and abuse. He needs to find a better woman.
Don’t wait until the breaking point to see a shrink
She looks so disgusted and full of hate while he looks defeated. There’s no coming back. It’s done
“I’m sure that hard to say”
Yes. Well a man on the verge of crying is in a tough spot.
No S Sherlock 😂😂😂
It's not about having a revelation. It's about validating his feelings.
If we find it difficult listening to her imagine his life...... jesus 😐😐
That woman is sooooo abusive. He needs to leave her and the abusiveness.
She's a witch.
Wheres Dexter ?
He wants to leave.
He's too passive, I know it's frustrating for men who are like this, but women like lively men
He's checked out! He done!
He's exhausted and defeated. Even her attempts to hurt him don't reach his heart anymore
Yeah, this shit is over with. She’s an angry ass woman, and he’s not present.
Ping's a narcissist. He suffered narcissistic abuse from his mother, and he married his mother. He needs to heal. She might be beyond redemption.
Two long term relationships.
One girlfriend, one wife.
Each decided we needed to go to couples therapy.
Each proactively chose a female therapist.
Each was truly only looking for professional validation of her desire to dump me.
Could have saved significant amounts of time, money and aggravation and just dumped me up front.
Why did you agree to the therapy if everyone was out to get you?
So its everyone's fault but your own?
Now I'm no therapist but maybe you not seeing your part in either relationship ending might be a YOU problem.
You seem very divorce-able based off this comment alone
“Ping”?! Really? Meanwhile, she “observing” from her galaxy far, far away … that he’s “closed off”.. poor chap… then again, frankly, he chose to ‘couple’ with a ping .. However, was he always like this … before Pingy… ? But then, when he gets a few words in, saying that perhaps they are over.. she immediately attacks .. her voice roughens even as it goes up .. she takes centre stage, again.. MEGA MOUTH, micro mind.
why are you questioning her name, weirdo
This is so incredibly vague. Shallow and empty of substance.