I think it would've been cool to give him feral powers like faster speed, healing, enhanced strength, senses, claw extension without turning him into the ugliest mindless thing in marvel comics.
Wolverine's healing factor/mutation being slowed by adamantium poisoning is literally impossible, because adamantium is supposedly indestructible. Metal poisoning is literally tiny shavings and slivers of metal in your bloodstream. Since adamantium can't be broken, it shouldn't break apart at any level or hinder Wolverine AT ALL. Nice going with that had-wavy explanation, Marvel.
Most non-ferrous metals will secrete chemicals which induce metal poisoning as well. Alloys are notorious for this. The metal doesn't have to degrade, it just has to react, chemically, to other variants.
You are talking straight facts about Wolverine’s secondary mutation in this video. The Adamantium definitely holds back his secondary mutation and it poisons him I like Wolverine better without the Adamantium
Really? You know without the Adamantium from Logan's bones then his nothing but a pure animal than a human. I preferred Wolverine coated his bones with Vibranium or Muramasa Metal than an Adamantium so he could still be a human.
Facts? About a comic? A work of fiction that's been retconned so many times that it requires multiple people to explain it on social media..? Okay dude.
I would LOVE for Marvel to do proper berserker Wolverine and rages on film done properly of course but never would I ever want to see feral Wolverine on comics or in film, I hated that with a passion 😂
I think another factor is that his secondary mutation didn't kick in until the trauma of his adamantium bonding process as he lived nearly 200 years before one came along. So in a weird way it had both caused and halted the process, or the mutation began after the process of the adamantium being ripped out couldm also have been a factor
Why? it was a terrible comic series. They also did the same to sabretooth making him totally feral for a while and I remember the author drew feral sabretooth in full uniform complete with his mask and looking in mint condition which I just found hilarious. All I could picture was feral sabretooth screaming like a nutjob while neatly putting on his outfit in the morning.
nah that was just a different take on wolverine healing factor cant be stop by that the same way even the zombie virus in the more logic marvel zombie comic cant turn logan.
It did, Logan's healing factor is ALWAYS active with the adamantium skeleton as it is constantly poisoning him. However with the gene-x suppressants present in the food ESPECIALLY corn...which is a lot in whiskey and any alcoholic beverage really. Sooo yeah with the adamantium constantly poisoning him, plus with his healing factor weakened by the suppressants...no wonder.
He can't have adamantium poisoning, because that would mean the metal would slowly break down seeping into his bloodstream, adamantium is supposed to be indestructible to the point that it can't break down, not even with time, so yes, to answer the other person, it is because if what they put into the food and drink, his healing factor slowly go weaker because of how much he drank with with the cure in the mix, and before anyone tells me te cure would be authentic, it doesn't work that way, it has to be a certain amount of dosage to completely cure the mutation within the body, its not like, 1 or 2 drop of cure and the mutation is gone, it has to be a certain amount, and micro dosing the food and drink, it would take time
Why can’t wolverine just remove the adamantium inside him but keep his claws. Pretty sure magneto can free up his schedule to help in the procedure lol 😂
@@CursedReflection Wolverine's skeleton was infused with True Adamantium which was molecularly modified by his healing factor (indicating that his healing factor, while being unable to physically push the adamantium out, was strong enough to actually change the adamantium) into Adamantium Beta. Adamantium Beta is just as strong and resistant as True Adamantium, but allows Wolverine's bones to function normally (so he can continue making red blood cells and such). The adamantium helped to increase his strength and durability (which really was no big deal considering he could be stronger and tougher without it over time) at the cost of slowly poisoning him.
I think the possibility of getting Berserker Wolverine is about as likely as getting World Breaker Hulk. Next to None! But it would be cool to see how close they get to that type of story. Not sure most would relish that one.
Is it wrong that I love his savage form Kinda does resemble beast mixed with sabretooth Also I watched a video that explained that if wolverine adamantium was swapped with vibranium he would be alot more flexible and be a lot lighter and stealthier But depending which vibranium he used If it was wakandian vibranium if he didn’t disperse the kinetic energy building up he would blow off his limbs If it was arctic vibranium which black panther uses in his claws which can break down any metal It would cannibalize the iron in his blood melting him from the inside
To have a story make sense with this form he needs to be able to overcome it and control it. The writers just couldn’t commit to doing this. It was a layup.
I kind of like the idea that they could make it more or less like a werewolf, that when he goes into his berserker state his mutation causes him to become more animalistic and appearance but when his rage is spent he referreds back to normal, that the adamantium has nothing to do with this and it's just a constant battle he has to fight within himself... I personally never cared for the idea that the adamantium was poisoning and slowly killing him as his healing factor in my opinion should be too strong for that. But the X-Men were always more visceral in nature which is one of the things that made them my favorite superhero team, their powers are usually fantastic but also come with drawbacks, more like nature is in real life their abilities aren't shiny and without consequence like other superheroes, it's messy and in some cases bloody and even though a lot of them have these powers they have to struggle with the drawbacks of them... But I still prefer the idea that Logan is always fighting to keep the feral animal within himself at bay rather than slowly being poisoned to death by the adamantium.
@@Shatter149 bro. How the hell is the adamantium slowing that up. He was atleast 150-200 years old when he got the adamantium put in him. So you tellin me this feral transformation took this long to hit him? Compared to his entire life span he barely had the adamantium inside of him. If that was his natural mutation it should have kicked in BEFORE he got adamantium. But they switch these stories up all the time because originally he didn’t have claws. Then they retconned the claws in. Then he could heat the claws up. Then they took that away. Now the adamantium is poison and it’s holding his powers back? lol. If he already had his powers how the hell didnt his feral senses kick in the 150-200+ years he was alive before he got the adamantium???
@@Shatter149 and I do have common sense. I understand what they are saying about his powers I’m not stupid. What I’m saying is if you actually followed Wolverine from the beginning you’d see how inconsistent and random this theory is. Imagine me saying smoking cigarettes is preventing you from breathing underwater. And you didn’t start smoking until you were 60. If that was the case why couldn’t you breathe under water before that? Doesn’t make sense.
@@dominiquewilson is it really that hard to understand that the metal is stopping him from evolving? true he still a powerhouse because of the strongest metal he has but thats the only limit he has, he can never get stronger than that. was that really hard to catch? omg. you really proved my point. you lack common sense. now get lost
Basically Logan is a werewolf haha with no weaknesses if he lets his mutation go free he becomes an immortal beast in the same way that if Deadpool were not constantly regenerating from his cancer his body would not resist high speed regeneration and would explode. I mean those two are lucky that something prevents them from becoming unstable, Logan being able to be more powerful and Deadpool finally dying.
Considering the particular energy absorbing (and then dispersing) properties of vibranium, I would think it would be even less safe and practical than adamantium to have a skeleton coated with it.
the metal poisoning doesn't make much sense, cause for a metal thats so highly dense its nigh-indestructible, it shouldn't shed off any molecules to even cause metal poisoning in the first place
Isn’t Adamantium just temu Vibranium anyways? X Men origins wolverine portrayed it as its one element but I feel like that was a stylistic choice. If that was Vibranium that shit would not have been stolen from a mining operation like I believe it was.
I think a new type of metal, should be thought up, a type of metal that is 100% safe, and compatible with bones, when fused to them. I imagine a new type of metal, that is not toxic, has a special type of mineral content to it, and it mainly exists on a different planet. But some sort of circumstances, lead to a huge amount of this new metal, to come to planet:Earth, from the storage of a crashed Spaceship.
Bs. Poisoning someone with that advanced of a healing factor is ridiculous. Thats why the logan movie sucked. Wolverine poisoned. I cant even say it, its to ridiculous
I would like to see this variant of LOGAN, known as Berserker-Wolverine, appear in a (X-MEN) cartoon show.
I think it would've been cool to give him feral powers like faster speed, healing, enhanced strength, senses, claw extension without turning him into the ugliest mindless thing in marvel comics.
I mean wolverine with an unchecked mutation basically becomes sabertooth more or less. it's not that complicated.
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Wolverine's healing factor/mutation being slowed by adamantium poisoning is literally impossible, because adamantium is supposedly indestructible.
Metal poisoning is literally tiny shavings and slivers of metal in your bloodstream. Since adamantium can't be broken, it shouldn't break apart at any level or hinder Wolverine AT ALL.
Nice going with that had-wavy explanation, Marvel.
I couldn't agree more
Most non-ferrous metals will secrete chemicals which induce metal poisoning as well. Alloys are notorious for this. The metal doesn't have to degrade, it just has to react, chemically, to other variants.
You are talking straight facts about Wolverine’s secondary mutation in this video. The Adamantium definitely holds back his secondary mutation and it poisons him I like Wolverine better without the Adamantium
Really? You know without the Adamantium from Logan's bones then his nothing but a pure animal than a human. I preferred Wolverine coated his bones with Vibranium or Muramasa Metal than an Adamantium so he could still be a human.
@@ginya276so a skeleton that would make him either explode or disintegrate or one that would simply kill him? Great choices.
Facts? About a comic? A work of fiction that's been retconned so many times that it requires multiple people to explain it on social media..? Okay dude.
@@mattmarzula Oh, look at you captain semantics.
I would LOVE for Marvel to do proper berserker Wolverine and rages on film done properly of course but never would I ever want to see feral Wolverine on comics or in film, I hated that with a passion 😂
I think another factor is that his secondary mutation didn't kick in until the trauma of his adamantium bonding process as he lived nearly 200 years before one came along. So in a weird way it had both caused and halted the process, or the mutation began after the process of the adamantium being ripped out couldm also have been a factor
I hope the mcu shows us beserker Wolverine.
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Why? it was a terrible comic series. They also did the same to sabretooth making him totally feral for a while and I remember the author drew feral sabretooth in full uniform complete with his mask and looking in mint condition which I just found hilarious. All I could picture was feral sabretooth screaming like a nutjob while neatly putting on his outfit in the morning.
They might in the upcoming game
@@billfred9411J cuz it's a bad comic doesn't mean they can't use the good idea
I thought it was the mutant cure put in food that started to slow Wolverine's healing.
nah that was just a different take on wolverine healing factor cant be stop by that the same way even the zombie virus in the more logic marvel zombie comic cant turn logan.
It did, Logan's healing factor is ALWAYS active with the adamantium skeleton as it is constantly poisoning him. However with the gene-x suppressants present in the food ESPECIALLY corn...which is a lot in whiskey and any alcoholic beverage really. Sooo yeah with the adamantium constantly poisoning him, plus with his healing factor weakened by the suppressants...no wonder.
He can't have adamantium poisoning, because that would mean the metal would slowly break down seeping into his bloodstream, adamantium is supposed to be indestructible to the point that it can't break down, not even with time, so yes, to answer the other person, it is because if what they put into the food and drink, his healing factor slowly go weaker because of how much he drank with with the cure in the mix, and before anyone tells me te cure would be authentic, it doesn't work that way, it has to be a certain amount of dosage to completely cure the mutation within the body, its not like, 1 or 2 drop of cure and the mutation is gone, it has to be a certain amount, and micro dosing the food and drink, it would take time
Why can’t wolverine just remove the adamantium inside him but keep his claws. Pretty sure magneto can free up his schedule to help in the procedure lol 😂
its not like plating, his bones are literally adamantium at this point
@@NonsensicalSpudzI thought his bones were just heavily covered in adamantium, no?
@@CursedReflectionAs adamantium was in molten form I think it got infused with bone so it’s not just a coating.
Like making an alloy of something.
@@thisisnotmyname9044 ahh ok, got you. I call myself a huge wolverine fan, but always got confused on his adamantium. Thanks brother
@@CursedReflection Wolverine's skeleton was infused with True Adamantium which was molecularly modified by his healing factor (indicating that his healing factor, while being unable to physically push the adamantium out, was strong enough to actually change the adamantium) into Adamantium Beta. Adamantium Beta is just as strong and resistant as True Adamantium, but allows Wolverine's bones to function normally (so he can continue making red blood cells and such). The adamantium helped to increase his strength and durability (which really was no big deal considering he could be stronger and tougher without it over time) at the cost of slowly poisoning him.
Didnt you make a video just like this like 5 days ago?
Great video The Marvelous Wave :]
This also proves my belief that Wolverine's son, Jimmy Hudson, has the better powers than his father.
I predict that this will be covered in Season 2 of X-Men 97
I love that you guys have posted about 5 videos about wolverine and deadpool but then just bring up the exact same points over and over again
I think the possibility of getting Berserker Wolverine is about as likely as getting World Breaker Hulk. Next to None! But it would be cool to see how close they get to that type of story. Not sure most would relish that one.
The coolest Wolverine
Is it wrong that I love his savage form Kinda does resemble beast mixed with sabretooth
Also I watched a video that explained that if wolverine adamantium was swapped with vibranium he would be alot more flexible and be a lot lighter and stealthier
But depending which vibranium he used
If it was wakandian vibranium if he didn’t disperse the kinetic energy building up he would blow off his limbs
If it was arctic vibranium which black panther uses in his claws which can break down any metal
It would cannibalize the iron in his blood melting him from the inside
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To have a story make sense with this form he needs to be able to overcome it and control it. The writers just couldn’t commit to doing this. It was a layup.
Okay, I think I understand now.
I kind of like the idea that they could make it more or less like a werewolf, that when he goes into his berserker state his mutation causes him to become more animalistic and appearance but when his rage is spent he referreds back to normal, that the adamantium has nothing to do with this and it's just a constant battle he has to fight within himself... I personally never cared for the idea that the adamantium was poisoning and slowly killing him as his healing factor in my opinion should be too strong for that.
But the X-Men were always more visceral in nature which is one of the things that made them my favorite superhero team, their powers are usually fantastic but also come with drawbacks, more like nature is in real life their abilities aren't shiny and without consequence like other superheroes, it's messy and in some cases bloody and even though a lot of them have these powers they have to struggle with the drawbacks of them... But I still prefer the idea that Logan is always fighting to keep the feral animal within himself at bay rather than slowly being poisoned to death by the adamantium.
the adamantium was a power limiter
Doesn’t make sense at all
@@dominiquewilson the metal is stopping him from evolving to his strongest form. have you watched the video? do you have common sense?
@@Shatter149 bro. How the hell is the adamantium slowing that up. He was atleast 150-200 years old when he got the adamantium put in him. So you tellin me this feral transformation took this long to hit him? Compared to his entire life span he barely had the adamantium inside of him. If that was his natural mutation it should have kicked in BEFORE he got adamantium. But they switch these stories up all the time because originally he didn’t have claws. Then they retconned the claws in. Then he could heat the claws up. Then they took that away. Now the adamantium is poison and it’s holding his powers back? lol. If he already had his powers how the hell didnt his feral senses kick in the 150-200+ years he was alive before he got the adamantium???
@@Shatter149 and I do have common sense. I understand what they are saying about his powers I’m not stupid. What I’m saying is if you actually followed Wolverine from the beginning you’d see how inconsistent and random this theory is. Imagine me saying smoking cigarettes is preventing you from breathing underwater. And you didn’t start smoking until you were 60. If that was the case why couldn’t you breathe under water before that? Doesn’t make sense.
@@dominiquewilson is it really that hard to understand that the metal is stopping him from evolving? true he still a powerhouse because of the strongest metal he has but thats the only limit he has, he can never get stronger than that. was that really hard to catch? omg. you really proved my point. you lack common sense. now get lost
Yes it’s only right we see bro in his natural form
What if magneto slowly take amount of adamantium overtime? Like say 1 cm cube per week
i'd like just his claws re coated as he can extend them so they can be re-coated without rejecting. The rest, can stay bone.
Why didn't magneto use the adamantium and forge himself a suit that he can break it down into a weapon at will?
"On screen one day" after we literally just seen magneto rip the adamantium out his body in XMen 97 lol
We'll probably be seeing more feral wolverine in the next season of x-men 97
Why isn’t the Beast consciousness fading? If he created something to keep his consciousness, maybe he’d make one for wolverine
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Elektra being to Feral Wolverine what Shamhat was to Enkidu lol.
Without the sex, maybe.
they should put this on screen
Basically Logan is a werewolf haha with no weaknesses if he lets his mutation go free he becomes an immortal beast in the same way that if Deadpool were not constantly regenerating from his cancer his body would not resist high speed regeneration and would explode.
I mean those two are lucky that something prevents them from becoming unstable, Logan being able to be more powerful and Deadpool finally dying.
They always forget to show how he killed Cable's son and his minions without any difficulty, showing exactly how powerful he is in his feral state.
Aren't there any wolverines with vibranium bonded to their skeleton instead of adamantium?
Considering the particular energy absorbing (and then dispersing) properties of vibranium, I would think it would be even less safe and practical than adamantium to have a skeleton coated with it.
Imagine watching Wolverine with no adamantium live action .
the metal poisoning doesn't make much sense, cause for a metal thats so highly dense its nigh-indestructible, it shouldn't shed off any molecules to even cause metal poisoning in the first place
I wanna see a "Weapon H" full mutation
Couldnt Professor X give Wolverine months therapy and train him to control his mutation and emotions?
It can't be true Adamantium if it is poisoning him. This has been discussed by another UA-camr. Beta Adamantium would poison him
Isn’t Adamantium just temu Vibranium anyways? X Men origins wolverine portrayed it as its one element but I feel like that was a stylistic choice. If that was Vibranium that shit would not have been stolen from a mining operation like I believe it was.
Wasn't Logan already 200 years old by the time he got the admantium?
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Correction: Beast Mutation into his furry blue form was due to experimenting with MGH.
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I think feral wolverine was so stupid and whoever introduced the adamantium poisoning to wolverine's lore was stupid too.
Highly agree.
i believe if the story was crafted a little better it would work and not be so broken.
Feral Wolverine was the dumbest thing they did to him.
Spider-Man turned into a fricking Spider once if you remember
It's called a mutation for a reason because it keeps mutating. Get it ? Muchacho!
@@AchillesSeverus Spider-Man is not a mutant.
Mutations that continue mutating are called "cancer".
@@tay-dor7147 potaeto... potaato .. muchacho
There was no adamantium poisoning.
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Because it sucks, and makes no sense, at least in the comics, hopefully not X-Men 97 he grows bone claws
It doesn’t suck
@@bullymaguire3385 but it does
@@XZAVIER-DAA-GOD it really doesn't suck. Just unneeded hate for no reason
@@Douio right, you suck it off
I think a new type of metal, should be thought up, a type of metal that is 100% safe, and compatible with bones, when fused to them.
I imagine a new type of metal, that is not toxic, has a special type of mineral content to it, and it mainly exists on a different planet.
But some sort of circumstances, lead to a huge amount of this new metal, to come to planet:Earth, from the storage of a crashed Spaceship.
There is one and it's called vibranium
We also have uru but I don't know what it will do to the biology if a body is coated in it
Its just artists draws wolverine like that..
The not the Adamantium killing him. someoneelsedotheexplainingicba
Bs. Poisoning someone with that advanced of a healing factor is ridiculous. Thats why the logan movie sucked. Wolverine poisoned. I cant even say it, its to ridiculous
It makes sense, and how they break it down the process behind it