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IS IT REALLY THE WORSE...REMEMBER GREENBAY!! AARON RODGERS CONTRACT 4 YEARS!! DOESN'T HAVE ANY WEAPONS, WAS M.V.P PIROR YEAR!! JUST NEEDED BETTER WRS AND THEN THEY TRADE UP!!!!!! IN THE FIRST ROUND!!!! FOR A QB!!!! JORDAN UNLOVED
... It is not a bad pick. They need a QB of the future... They Loved penix. Kirk Cousins is essentially trash.... he is an older version of Dak Prescott. Great in the regular season total GARBAGE in the post season. Cousins is essentially on a 2 year deal which give Penix 2 years to sit and learn which is apparently a great thing looking at Mahomes and Love. So yea... This was a great pick and your take is trash on this one.
I was watching Tom Grossi's every fans draft reaction and he spent half the video just shitting on the Falcons. The funniest part was the Packers fan saying "Atlanta you're doing it wrong."😂
I could see them using him as trade capital, but I think essentially their plan is 2 years with Kirk and then move on to Penix, especially after looking at how Kirk's contract is structured. Sucks for Kirk and his family to be uprooted thinking they would be there at least 4 years and then learning it wil probably only be 2 years. It's a business, but this has obviously been in the works for a while. Their excuse for not telling Kirk was it was a sensitive issue and they didn't want other teams finding out. In other words, they are telling Kirk they don't trust him. Hell of a way to start a relationship.
I can’t believe they did this. Arthur blank is probably super pissed . Dallas turner was teed up for this pick and now he is gonna have 12 sacks next year while we struggle to have a guy with half that
Not saying penix was a bad pick but totally agree def not the best pick ... I really wanted dallas turner.... look at what will Anderson did for Houston last year... if turner ends up as the DROY in Minnesota I will be pissed
I guess the Falcons are trying to emulate the Packers, 49ers, Patriots and other teams. Pick a QB to develop planning for the next 2 or 3 years. I agree a team should focus all their energy when in their window to win. You shouldn't sell the farm but definitely everything should go towards improving the team now. I understand the criticism but it is the reality that many teams do this now.
I was legit talking with my brother about this because we both are falcons fans and I was like we are allergic to drafting defensive players in the first round
5:22 - If he's going to be a star, draft him and spend $100m on premier talent in free agency. If he's not, spend $100M on Kirk Cousins and use the draft to get a young baller. But don't do both.
Cousins: “It’s not about the money, it’s about what the money represents.” ATL: “It’s not about who the first round pick is, it’s what the pick represents.”
Watching the draft with buddies and I say "falcons probably gonna get wr" friend says "it's a qb" we all dumbfounded and he continues "its the falcons they are stupid" 😂😂😂😂
From what I saw Penix was projected to the 2nd round. ATL might have gotten him for cheaper, filled a position of greater need in round 1, and saved themselves a bit of grief in the process.
It's a business but transparency with your players sends a strong signal to potential free agents. Keeping Kirk in the dark that this even could be a possibilty indicates a lack of integrity in managment THAT FREE AGENTS WILL NOTICE
As a life long Falcons fan, nothing surprises me anymore from the leadership at the Falcons. It’s like they’ll do anything to guarantee a bad season. Those folks in the front office couldn’t find their ass with a hat. Totally fed up.
I love Raheem Morris from back when he was interim head coach in Tampa. He got the most out of a ragged given up roster and almost got us into the playoffs. I think 10-6. The league screwed him on a bad call against the lions. Offensive PI on a touchdown catch. The league later changed that call during the next week but our season was over and he left. Coaches like him and Tomlin are the dungy coaching tree. Trust in it. They are solid people and coaches. Tampa loved Ra.
It’s easy to say that nothing has gone right for this franchise since they grabbed that 28-3 lead in the Super Bowl a few years back, but the truth is very little had gone right for the Falcons before that game, as well. But this has effectively been a full circle that started when Raheem Morris interviewed to be Dan Quinn’s replacement and was determined not to have been good enough for the job at that time, only to be given the job the next time he interviewed after the guy who beat him out was fired before the sun could even hit the ground for the first day of Offseason 2024. And somehow it’s only gotten worse since then.
WHAT...THE...FUCK As a Falcons fan I just want to curl up n die. I feel bad for the players giving all n the fans deserve more. The incompetence of this franchise is staggering. Cousins didn't get a call? How about the f'n owner who has given an open checkbook for a winning team for decades and was blind sided by the pick? Shit...let's double down and draft another QB tonight 🥸
Penix has a crazy accurate deep ball, which will be nice in the NFL. But yeah, this pick is definitely bizarre on so many levels. The falcons really needed pass rushers also.
Penix Jr. will ask for a trade now once he starts sitting on bench next season why would he want to play for the Falcons after seeing what they done to Cousins? Falcons won't keep Penix Jr. for more than a year they showed their true colors.
This is one of those cases where the Falcons’ GM thinks he’s smarter than everyone else and he’s going to be a genius rebel. That kind of thinking always gets you fired. 😂
Matthew Stafford...after being on a crappy team, went to the Rams and won a Super Bowl. Kirk was on crappy Washington team, then a Vikings team with a defense that was 13th, 18th, 27th, 30th 31st, and 31st.
What you have been seeing the past few years, is the NFL slowly adopting the MLB and NBA formula. The owners aren't poor and they're making moves that don't make sense to people right now, but will in a couple of years. Experts and wannabe experts are shocked because they're haven't been paying attention to the changing landscape.
My guess 1. Penix is cover loses if 2. Kirk Cousins to suspension for couple game and Falcon possible fine tampering investigation and long prep future QB owners wanted via Roger’s via Love and Farve via Roger’s and Alex Smith via Patrick Mahomes
In the previous tampering cases where action was taken, the GM, owner and /or coach contacted the player about a new contract. That didn’t happen in this case. Kirk didn’t talk to the GM, owner OR the head coach either. He is rehabbing an injury an injury and talked to the head athletic trainer. And of the teams that were penalized…the player was not dealing with an injury. None of one of what happened with Kirk / Falcons rises to the level of tampering that the other teams were penalized for. In only the most serious case, the Dolphins lost their first rounder. And in none of other tampering cases that were FAR more serious, no players were suspended.
I agree with your assessment but if he just sits 2yrs he’ll still be 26 and unproven. Cousins could stay all 4yrs then Penix is 28 and that’s a tremendous waste!!!
I just went from being a Falcons fan to a Chargers fan. They got the right philosophy and pick the right players. Falcons either draft the wrong player at the right position or the right player at the wrong position (Bad Timing and horrible allocation of resources) Things just went from bad to worse in the ATL
I have seen quite a few comments from Falcons fans about the following: 1) "Penix will benefit from Kirk Cousins as a mentor". Hmm, I'm a Vikings fan and I can say for a fact that Kirk feels threatened by any QB that might take his job. He goes out of his way to not provide any advice. 2) The Falcons can just trade Cousins midseason or after the 2024 season. Hmm, Kirk has a no trade clause and he's not going to uproot his family and move to another city. Also what team needs a QB so bad that they will take on his contract? That said if Cousins goes down with a serious injury this year then the Falcons will look like geniuses.
You start the video with Ian rapport prefacing that the owner wants a succession plan and that Michael penix is for sure on the board for Atlanta. Then you try to say that their GM has to explain the pick after they made it to the owner? Bro this contradictory. So which is it?
The thing is they got them signed for the next two or three years which means they should be trying to win now. And they just wasted a top 10 pick on another quarterback that probably won't even see the field for the next 2 years. They should have got a defensive end, Edge rusher that could start on day one and make an impact and help the team right now because they made some decent moves in the offseason and it look like they were trying to compete for this next two or three year run.. I just think it's a bad move to use a number eight overall pick on a player that won't even see the field for the next few years. They should have got of player that's going to contribute now
Penix is also injury prone. I could see ATL needing another QB in a couple years and going through this all over again. Should've drafted an elite tackle or such to keep their QB upright.
Drafting the QB for Atlanta makes total since if you believe cousins will be successful... getting lucky and getting QB talent at a later pick is a real tool of the dices. Especially when you have a chance to get a guy this high and can groom him for 2 or 3 seasons to get him ready to start one day. Far too often teams throw QB's into the fire too soon.
If their plan was to draft, Michael Penix the entire time… then why the hell did they even bother signing Kirk cousins? You could’ve gotten another veteran for significantly cheaper to play as a bridge quarterback. Like, they could’ve just went and grabbed Gardner Minshew before he signed with the Raiders. He would’ve been a perfectly cheap option that would make a perfect bridge quarterback. He plays for maybe one year and then you start Penix afterwards. But instead now you’re locked into a $180 million contract ($100 million guaranteed) for four years.
Right they basically paid 180 million for a locker room presence. It’s a good pick but sheesh why bother with cousins before hand like that. Especially on the package deal the Steelers got for russ n fields.
People are saying it is dumb, but it is smart. You get a first rounder to sit and learn the pro way and be ready by year two/three. Second, with Cousins, you are not getting an opportunity to pick that high. The world is just so used to instant gratification.
If Penix stays healthy, he could turn into a solid QB in the league. But I agree that picking a QB at 8 might have been the wrong decision... but who am I? Not an NFL scout, coach, or GM 😂
Well, I'm a Pats fan and this make sense. If Cousins will bring what the Falcons expect him to bring, they won't pick in the top 20 the upcoming 4 years. Then Cousins is out, and they will start to look for an early pick, since they expectedly will play bad after Cousins for at least a season. How do you know that you will strike with that pick? They were lucky with the transition from Vick to Ryan, but not that much after Ryan. Now they try to correct the mistake. Just look at my Patriots after Brady. And I'm not sure that Maye will be the long term answer at all. He would need 2-3 year on the bench, but behind who? The Falcons tackled this issue.
As someone who tries to be a Falcons fan for the hometown team, it's impossible. Not because they're a bad team, but because the head office continues to make stupid decisions like this. I cussed as soon they called Penix's name. I assumed they would either draft Dallas Turner or trade down with Minnesota
Naw we don't need fans like u. Instead of b!tchN about getting the best QB available, you wouldn't know why they did, if u been a actual fan the last 7 yrs
Everybody say that stuff until you see Penix throw...such a perfect spiral and velocity. DB's think they've got it and the pace on the ball fools them.
I think he throws weird. It looks like he only throws with his arm when QBs need to use their whole body. You know who does throw an accurate, tight spiral? Kirk Cousins. ua-cam.com/video/-RCh-9miJC8/v-deo.html Sean McVay on Kirk....."People say Kirk doesn't have good arm strength!" McVay said, sounding incredulous. "I don't know what film guys have been watching, but he can make all the throws, on time, in tight windows. I think this guy's arm talent is incredible. It's special. Coaches all talk about it, but I don't think this guy gets the credit [from the general public] for the natural stroke and consistency he displays. The ball comes out quickly and he throws a nice, crisp spiral that makes it catchable. I think when you really saw his arm talent was that Sunday night game we played against the Packers in 2016 (a 42-24 Washington victory at FedEx Field in mid-November). The wind was just howling; it was brutal. When you're down there in warmups, as a play-caller, you're thinking, 'Man, I have to alter some of my calls to account for this.' But I didn't have to change a thing." Mike McDaniel on Kirk...."in his first start against the Browns, Cousins did something even more mind-blowing. Said McDaniel: "We have a keeper where he rolls to his right and there's a guy dragging across that's his first option. Leonard Hankerson runs a post on the backside to clear out the safety; he's like a non-option. And Kirk, on the move, throws it 60 yards across his body and hits [Hankerson] for a touchdown. That play survives in our teach tapes because it's the only time it's been thrown. I love it when that happens, 'cause now I can show that play every year to our receivers and say, 'See -- it could come to you -- so run your fastest.' "
Only explanation is that he could be trade bait at some future point, if he shows he can play. Or maybe they could convert him into a receiver like the Steelers did with Kordell Stewart. Other than those two options, it’s dumb!
As a Dolphins fan i envy the Falcons QB room,you had to pay $50m per year to lure a great vet in Cousins but anything less than that and he wouldn't have signed. There is no better situation for Penix Jnr. than to watch and learn how a true pro like Cousins prepares and be ready for when he has to go in. After the number of injuries that happened to starting QB's last season all the comments about Penix Jnr sitting for at least 2 years seems stupid to me,the odds are he starts multible games this season. The flipside is the Dolphins who have Tua,a QB who has never beaten a legit team from December on and has been given a saloon ride in the QB room with no competition since they dumped Ryan Fitzpatrick who was always better than him.
Coming from a falcons fan, penix is a great player nothing against him but there are so many defensive holes we coulda filled. But we all know the falcons don’t take defensive talent in the first round, we wait for mid players
Adding Cousins was a HUGE mistake and Cousins with his ONE playoff wins in 9 years will not be the solution for ATL. Penix Jr. MAY be a solution and since QB is the most important position, and he was available...perhaps...ATL realized that they couldn't pass up the opportunity to have an above average QB over the BAD signing of mediocre QB, who puts his DEF in bad situations and employs the old Big-8 offense of numerous possessions leading to 55-50 games....due to inefficiency of the passing game. Even the best DEF will suck when they need to hold the other teams for 10+ possessions at disadvantageous field possessions....Don't compare Cousins to Rodgers or other real good QBs.....Cousins is just a bit above QBs like Sam Howell.
I don't how people don't understand that a qb like Penix Jr don't come around that often. The falcons paid the average cost of what it takes to compete with everyone in that conference, In Kirk cousins they know if cousins gets hurt againe or doesn't come back the same player he was lastyear they had to take M.P..jr to assure if they have a franchise qb they will always stay competetive.
Tbh im not too upset about the pick as a Falcons fan. The one thing i was worried about was if Kirk goes down, who replaces him besides Taylor, who also gets injured a decent amount. Trust me, i wanted someone on defense, but at least if Kirk goes down we can see how Penix turns out. What also helps is that barely any defese was taken so hopfully we pick up a dline guy in the second round
Way different. Rodgers had a not great year the year b4, Love dropped in the draft, Love was young compared to Penix, plus the Packers didn't just pick up Rodgers in free agency for 4 years right b4 drafting his replacement. They should've traded back and gotten a defensive player or never given Kirk a 4 year deal. It might all work, but they wasted a pick that could've helped them win this year: Odunze, Turner, etc.
I’m no Falcon’s fan but I’ve been doing this since the 80’s as a child with my dad who has a sports pedigree as a player, so it’s in me and you don’t pass on top QB’s period. And I know nobody believes Cousins is him not even the Falcon’s now that’s simple.😂😂
Falcons don’t want to be like the Steelers getting stuck with an older, injured and bad shape quarterback. Have to get a good quarterback when they could.
Everyone mocked the packers when they took Jordan love and now they are praising them Kirk's deal is a 2 year deal which allows penix to sit and develop build his confidence and hone his skills before taking over
The pick wasn’t baffling. What was baffling is the contract the Falcons offered Cousins. It’s all gonna make sense when the Seahawks and Falcons eventually play. Byron Murphy II, who the Falcons should’ve selected, is gonna lay Cousins out. In steps Penix Jr, and the rest is history.
I guarantee you, Penix does not look at this as a dream situation, he doesn’t want to sit there on the bench four years. Who the hell wants to sit on the bench.
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IS IT REALLY THE WORSE...REMEMBER GREENBAY!! AARON RODGERS CONTRACT 4 YEARS!! DOESN'T HAVE ANY WEAPONS, WAS M.V.P PIROR YEAR!! JUST NEEDED BETTER WRS AND THEN THEY TRADE UP!!!!!! IN THE FIRST ROUND!!!! FOR A QB!!!! JORDAN UNLOVED
... It is not a bad pick. They need a QB of the future... They Loved penix. Kirk Cousins is essentially trash.... he is an older version of Dak Prescott. Great in the regular season total GARBAGE in the post season. Cousins is essentially on a 2 year deal which give Penix 2 years to sit and learn which is apparently a great thing looking at Mahomes and Love. So yea... This was a great pick and your take is trash on this one.
Nice fade. 👍
potentially tampering for Kirk Cousins just to draft his replacement eighth overall is crazy ngl
Is replacement is an ancient being as well
Imagine Kirk just snitches on em just as a fuck you.
They drafted Penix cause they might lose there 1st for next year by tampering for cousins
Falcons gonna Falcon.
@@Douchecanoe42069then pick the year after. Also the qb class isn’t as good so you’ll be able to pick one in the 2nd round
I was watching Tom Grossi's every fans draft reaction and he spent half the video just shitting on the Falcons. The funniest part was the Packers fan saying "Atlanta you're doing it wrong."😂
😂
Tom grossi > ESPN Pat
Possi grossi!
I mean it’s true tho. They are doing it wrong.
And the season hasn't started yet. A lot of people just need something to run their mouth about.
I could see them using him as trade capital, but I think essentially their plan is 2 years with Kirk and then move on to Penix, especially after looking at how Kirk's contract is structured. Sucks for Kirk and his family to be uprooted thinking they would be there at least 4 years and then learning it wil probably only be 2 years. It's a business, but this has obviously been in the works for a while. Their excuse for not telling Kirk was it was a sensitive issue and they didn't want other teams finding out. In other words, they are telling Kirk they don't trust him. Hell of a way to start a relationship.
I’d never trust that gm again I’d ask for a trade I’d never play for a man I can’t trust
Whose gonna be traded? Kirk? Idk who would trade for a 35 year old qb coming off a bad injury
He played great last year up until then. @@trentwise3762
@@trentwise3762 IF anyone was traded, it would be Penix
@marcgarrett5427 I said the same thing.. they can trade him for 2 WRs
I can’t believe they did this. Arthur blank is probably super pissed . Dallas turner was teed up for this pick and now he is gonna have 12 sacks next year while we struggle to have a guy with half that
All of you are wrong. Blank approved of this and us falcons fans definitely didn’t approve
You don’t draft a qb without the owner knowing
Not saying penix was a bad pick but totally agree def not the best pick ... I really wanted dallas turner.... look at what will Anderson did for Houston last year... if turner ends up as the DROY in Minnesota I will be pissed
Yeah. Karma for not picking Belichick. Oh well.
I guess the Falcons are trying to emulate the Packers, 49ers, Patriots and other teams. Pick a QB to develop planning for the next 2 or 3 years.
I agree a team should focus all their energy when in their window to win. You shouldn't sell the farm but definitely everything should go towards improving the team now. I understand the criticism but it is the reality that many teams do this now.
The General manager is stupid enough for not telling Kirk cousins 7:39
Same GM that traded up for trubisky 😂🤣
@@240sx1992nissan he is dumb as Jerry 😆
@@240sx1992nissanno it’s not. not at all
@@willhunter7503 Ryan pace? 99.9 percent sure it’s Ryan pace.
@@240sx1992nissan and youre 99.9% wrong lmao it’s terry fontenot
As a falcons fan, I was suprised for exactly 0.000000561233 of a second before I remembered oh yea were the God damn falcons 😂
I was legit talking with my brother about this because we both are falcons fans and I was like we are allergic to drafting defensive players in the first round
Literally lol we could have had ANY defensive player
Same trying to find a way to cope with their bad decisions 😂 as long as they win I won’t care though tired of losing seasons
You gotta say noooooo to the Falcons... you gotta tell em no!
Lol ya I told ppl we would prob screw this up and ya 99% sure we did.... had our pick of the best DE or CB in the draft n took a qb ... baffling
5:22 - If he's going to be a star, draft him and spend $100m on premier talent in free agency. If he's not, spend $100M on Kirk Cousins and use the draft to get a young baller. But don't do both.
I like Penix in ATL a lot but this was the most Franchise Mode BS I've ever seen 😂😂😂😂
The Joker aka Arthur Blank played Kirk Cousins 0:58
Cousins: “It’s not about the money, it’s about what the money represents.”
ATL: “It’s not about who the first round pick is, it’s what the pick represents.”
And it's still stupid 😂😂😂
Will laugh my a** off if Atlanta gets the 3rd seed overall ... Just play the damn game!
Kirk had it made in MIN. When your priority is "what the money represents", you end up at a dysfunctional poverty franchise like ATL
I will laugh harder if he says fu ....I retire !!
@@gary50900 just take his 100 guaranteed mill and walk away 😂
Watching the draft with buddies and I say "falcons probably gonna get wr" friend says "it's a qb" we all dumbfounded and he continues "its the falcons they are stupid" 😂😂😂😂
So the Falcons use a top 10 pick on a player that won't even see the field for probably the next 2 years? Smh. That GM needs to fire himself
From what I saw Penix was projected to the 2nd round. ATL might have gotten him for cheaper, filled a position of greater need in round 1, and saved themselves a bit of grief in the process.
@@twogruden9943 they still won’t get it
the way they answered "that was a PRIvATe phone call" so quickly had me dying. We gonna suck for the next 3 years blud
It's a business but transparency with your players sends a strong signal to potential free agents. Keeping Kirk in the dark that this even could be a possibilty indicates a lack of integrity in managment THAT FREE AGENTS WILL NOTICE
Kirk was probably cussing out Fontenot and Morris on the phone, that is why it was a private phone call lol.
Kirk don't cuss, but I bet he said, gosh darn it, golly, gee whiz, dang it😂😂
@@axman300Probably a few "Fiddle Sticks!!!!" Thrown in there 😊
This is great for Saints.
Why?
@Gman333gmf is gunna be 28 when he finally plays
Aren't yall still paying Taysom Shill starter money? Lmao
@Gman333g feels good knowing the Brees' era is finally over.
If 28-3 was a draft pick. Great laughs all around the league
This is why bad teams get worse .. having this much money tied up at QB is insane
And, Arthur Blank stared blankly at his GM…
As a life long Falcons fan, nothing surprises me anymore from the leadership at the Falcons. It’s like they’ll do anything to guarantee a bad season. Those folks in the front office couldn’t find their ass with a hat. Totally fed up.
I love Raheem Morris from back when he was interim head coach in Tampa. He got the most out of a ragged given up roster and almost got us into the playoffs. I think 10-6. The league screwed him on a bad call against the lions. Offensive PI on a touchdown catch. The league later changed that call during the next week but our season was over and he left. Coaches like him and Tomlin are the dungy coaching tree. Trust in it. They are solid people and coaches. Tampa loved Ra.
This was a true shocker!
It’s easy to say that nothing has gone right for this franchise since they grabbed that 28-3 lead in the Super Bowl a few years back, but the truth is very little had gone right for the Falcons before that game, as well.
But this has effectively been a full circle that started when Raheem Morris interviewed to be Dan Quinn’s replacement and was determined not to have been good enough for the job at that time, only to be given the job the next time he interviewed after the guy who beat him out was fired before the sun could even hit the ground for the first day of Offseason 2024.
And somehow it’s only gotten worse since then.
As a falcons fan I think this pic is bat shit crazy, you need an edge rusher in this draft
WHAT...THE...FUCK
As a Falcons fan I just want to curl up n die. I feel bad for the players giving all n the fans deserve more. The incompetence of this franchise is staggering. Cousins didn't get a call? How about the f'n owner who has given an open checkbook for a winning team for decades and was blind sided by the pick? Shit...let's double down and draft another QB tonight 🥸
Cousins is probably pissed
Penix has a crazy accurate deep ball, which will be nice in the NFL. But yeah, this pick is definitely bizarre on so many levels.
The falcons really needed pass rushers also.
Penix Jr. will ask for a trade now once he starts sitting on bench next season why would he want to play for the Falcons after seeing what they done to Cousins? Falcons won't keep Penix Jr. for more than a year they showed their true colors.
You CONSTANTLY HEAR ABOUT "TRUST" in NFL...Falcons just showed Cousins "Don't trust us"
Falcons need to fire Terry at the end of next football year.
This is one of those cases where the Falcons’ GM thinks he’s smarter than everyone else and he’s going to be a genius rebel. That kind of thinking always gets you fired. 😂
Love your video, Mike, and what were the Falcons were thinking
A QB controversy without snapping a ball. Lol
Falcons franchise has CTE
This is ridiculous. Blank should fire the GM and anyone who had a decision in this pick. Atlanta had so much potential. I feel for the fans.
Penix turning 24. Hes going to be like 25-26 before he even gets a start 😂😂😂
Same age as JORDAN 💕
Yall legit slow 😂😂
Kirk Cousins COULD be the Falcons' RUSSELL WILSON!!
At least they didnt TRADE for him
Matthew Stafford...after being on a crappy team, went to the Rams and won a Super Bowl. Kirk was on crappy Washington team, then a Vikings team with a defense that was 13th, 18th, 27th, 30th 31st, and 31st.
What you have been seeing the past few years, is the NFL slowly adopting the MLB and NBA formula. The owners aren't poor and they're making moves that don't make sense to people right now, but will in a couple of years. Experts and wannabe experts are shocked because they're haven't been paying attention to the changing landscape.
Thank you Atlanta for that pick and allowing us to pick Rome 😂🐻⬇️
I hate it when teams get docked draft picks but the Falcons deserve to lose a 1st rounder for tampering for making such a dumb pick.
Kurt might not fully recover from his injury.
My guess 1. Penix is cover loses if 2. Kirk Cousins to suspension for couple game and Falcon possible fine tampering investigation and long prep future QB owners wanted via Roger’s via Love and Farve via Roger’s and Alex Smith via Patrick Mahomes
In the previous tampering cases where action was taken, the GM, owner and /or coach contacted the player about a new contract. That didn’t happen in this case. Kirk didn’t talk to the GM, owner OR the head coach either. He is rehabbing an injury an injury and talked to the head athletic trainer. And of the teams that were penalized…the player was not dealing with an injury.
None of one of what happened with Kirk / Falcons rises to the level of tampering that the other teams were penalized for. In only the most serious case, the Dolphins lost their first rounder. And in none of other tampering cases that were FAR more serious, no players were suspended.
They'll end up trading one of them 😂
Pittsburgh will take them. They love all the leftovers 😂
Lmao😂
And Cousins has a NTC 🤣
To who though? Penix sure, he could get traded. Idk who would trade for Kirk being so old and with his recent injury
This pick doomed the Raiders to the QB purgatory. 🤣
Maybe if they picked up Bill he wouldn’t have made this decision
You literally explained my thinking exactly
The entire football world knows its not about MPJ he's great. Its the situation the Falcons have brought upon him and themselves.
I don’t think it’s bad because Penix is obviously the future for the falcons and he can learn behind a vet like Cousins
he is gonna be 28 years old when kirks contract runs out, thats way too old to be starting your "starter" career
@@inactiveacc123 He would actually be 29 by the time he starts playing after Kirk's contract runs out. Even worse lol
If that was the goal, they should’ve drafted McCarthy
I agree with your assessment but if he just sits 2yrs he’ll still be 26 and unproven. Cousins could stay all 4yrs then Penix is 28 and that’s a tremendous waste!!!
They should have drafted my nephew because he is only 9 and will be of age when Cousins contract ends😂😂
I just went from being a Falcons fan to a Chargers fan. They got the right philosophy and pick the right players. Falcons either draft the wrong player at the right position or the right player at the wrong position (Bad Timing and horrible allocation of resources) Things just went from bad to worse in the ATL
I have seen quite a few comments from Falcons fans about the following: 1) "Penix will benefit from Kirk Cousins as a mentor". Hmm, I'm a Vikings fan and I can say for a fact that Kirk feels threatened by any QB that might take his job. He goes out of his way to not provide any advice. 2) The Falcons can just trade Cousins midseason or after the 2024 season. Hmm, Kirk has a no trade clause and he's not going to uproot his family and move to another city. Also what team needs a QB so bad that they will take on his contract? That said if Cousins goes down with a serious injury this year then the Falcons will look like geniuses.
hot take: it’s an under rated pick and over hated
Not signing Bill was their biggest mistake
You start the video with Ian rapport prefacing that the owner wants a succession plan and that Michael penix is for sure on the board for Atlanta. Then you try to say that their GM has to explain the pick after they made it to the owner? Bro this contradictory. So which is it?
I'm glad Falcons went full potatoe and passed on Dallas Turner. 😂😂😂
This is wild 😂😂😂
Cousins will never see the end of his contract. Another concussion or two or major injury and he's out. He's 36 for crying out loud.
Then that contract was TERRIBLE
The thing is they got them signed for the next two or three years which means they should be trying to win now. And they just wasted a top 10 pick on another quarterback that probably won't even see the field for the next 2 years. They should have got a defensive end, Edge rusher that could start on day one and make an impact and help the team right now because they made some decent moves in the offseason and it look like they were trying to compete for this next two or three year run.. I just think it's a bad move to use a number eight overall pick on a player that won't even see the field for the next few years. They should have got of player that's going to contribute now
I don’t think he’s gonna be ready week 1
He'll see the $100mil though
Penix is also injury prone. I could see ATL needing another QB in a couple years and going through this all over again. Should've drafted an elite tackle or such to keep their QB upright.
As a Falcons Fan even a Month Later I can still not get over this pick
Cuz you purchase yourself an NFL team an draft who you want to draft @ #8!😮
Drafting the QB for Atlanta makes total since if you believe cousins will be successful... getting lucky and getting QB talent at a later pick is a real tool of the dices. Especially when you have a chance to get a guy this high and can groom him for 2 or 3 seasons to get him ready to start one day. Far too often teams throw QB's into the fire too soon.
If their plan was to draft, Michael Penix the entire time… then why the hell did they even bother signing Kirk cousins? You could’ve gotten another veteran for significantly cheaper to play as a bridge quarterback. Like, they could’ve just went and grabbed Gardner Minshew before he signed with the Raiders. He would’ve been a perfectly cheap option that would make a perfect bridge quarterback. He plays for maybe one year and then you start Penix afterwards. But instead now you’re locked into a $180 million contract ($100 million guaranteed) for four years.
Right they basically paid 180 million for a locker room presence. It’s a good pick but sheesh why bother with cousins before hand like that. Especially on the package deal the Steelers got for russ n fields.
they couldve traded back and still got Penix
This makes so much sense to me
Sit behind Cousins while they push for a super bowl, develop a winning culture around the rookie qb and put him in at the right time, I love the pick.
Penix is gonna be great
If he only has to wait 2 seasons or less to start and he turns out to be a franchise QB it won't be so bad.
If cousins does well they could trade Penix within these next years for players and draft positions in the future like the bears💯
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People are saying it is dumb, but it is smart. You get a first rounder to sit and learn the pro way and be ready by year two/three. Second, with Cousins, you are not getting an opportunity to pick that high. The world is just so used to instant gratification.
As a falcons who watches every game since I was 8 I knew they would find a way to mess but never this bad 😢
If Penix stays healthy, he could turn into a solid QB in the league. But I agree that picking a QB at 8 might have been the wrong decision... but who am I? Not an NFL scout, coach, or GM 😂
Well, I'm a Pats fan and this make sense.
If Cousins will bring what the Falcons expect him to bring, they won't pick in the top 20 the upcoming 4 years. Then Cousins is out, and they will start to look for an early pick, since they expectedly will play bad after Cousins for at least a season. How do you know that you will strike with that pick? They were lucky with the transition from Vick to Ryan, but not that much after Ryan. Now they try to correct the mistake.
Just look at my Patriots after Brady. And I'm not sure that Maye will be the long term answer at all. He would need 2-3 year on the bench, but behind who? The Falcons tackled this issue.
draftiing penix jr since cousins is coming off a injury is wild since penix jr isnt to far off himself so that cant be why they did it
As someone who tries to be a Falcons fan for the hometown team, it's impossible. Not because they're a bad team, but because the head office continues to make stupid decisions like this. I cussed as soon they called Penix's name. I assumed they would either draft Dallas Turner or trade down with Minnesota
Naw we don't need fans like u.
Instead of b!tchN about getting the best QB available, you wouldn't know why they did, if u been a actual fan the last 7 yrs
Everybody say that stuff until you see Penix throw...such a perfect spiral and velocity.
DB's think they've got it and the pace on the ball fools them.
I think he throws weird. It looks like he only throws with his arm when QBs need to use their whole body. You know who does throw an accurate, tight spiral? Kirk Cousins. ua-cam.com/video/-RCh-9miJC8/v-deo.html
Sean McVay on Kirk....."People say Kirk doesn't have good arm strength!" McVay said, sounding incredulous. "I don't know what film guys have been watching, but he can make all the throws, on time, in tight windows. I think this guy's arm talent is incredible. It's special. Coaches all talk about it, but I don't think this guy gets the credit [from the general public] for the natural stroke and consistency he displays. The ball comes out quickly and he throws a nice, crisp spiral that makes it catchable. I think when you really saw his arm talent was that Sunday night game we played against the Packers in 2016 (a 42-24 Washington victory at FedEx Field in mid-November). The wind was just howling; it was brutal. When you're down there in warmups, as a play-caller, you're thinking, 'Man, I have to alter some of my calls to account for this.' But I didn't have to change a thing."
Mike McDaniel on Kirk...."in his first start against the Browns, Cousins did something even more mind-blowing. Said McDaniel: "We have a keeper where he rolls to his right and there's a guy dragging across that's his first option. Leonard Hankerson runs a post on the backside to clear out the safety; he's like a non-option. And Kirk, on the move, throws it 60 yards across his body and hits [Hankerson] for a touchdown. That play survives in our teach tapes because it's the only time it's been thrown. I love it when that happens, 'cause now I can show that play every year to our receivers and say, 'See -- it could come to you -- so run your fastest.' "
Only explanation is that he could be trade bait at some future point, if he shows he can play.
Or maybe they could convert him into a receiver like the Steelers did with Kordell Stewart.
Other than those two options, it’s dumb!
Could you do a video where you grade first round picks
As a Dolphins fan i envy the Falcons QB room,you had to pay $50m per year to lure a great vet in Cousins but anything less than that and he wouldn't have signed. There is no better situation for Penix Jnr. than to watch and learn how a true pro like Cousins prepares and be ready for when he has to go in. After the number of injuries that happened to starting QB's last season all the comments about Penix Jnr sitting for at least 2 years seems stupid to me,the odds are he starts multible games this season. The flipside is the Dolphins who have Tua,a QB who has never beaten a legit team from December on and has been given a saloon ride in the QB room with no competition since they dumped Ryan Fitzpatrick who was always better than him.
GM wanted revenge for Griffin 3 , now primos knows how it feels to be the guy and they waste an early pick for a QB
Coming from a falcons fan, penix is a great player nothing against him but there are so many defensive holes we coulda filled. But we all know the falcons don’t take defensive talent in the first round, we wait for mid players
Adding Cousins was a HUGE mistake and Cousins with his ONE playoff wins in 9 years will not be the solution for ATL. Penix Jr. MAY be a solution and since QB is the most important position, and he was available...perhaps...ATL realized that they couldn't pass up the opportunity to have an above average QB over the BAD signing of mediocre QB, who puts his DEF in bad situations and employs the old Big-8 offense of numerous possessions leading to 55-50 games....due to inefficiency of the passing game. Even the best DEF will suck when they need to hold the other teams for 10+ possessions at disadvantageous field possessions....Don't compare Cousins to Rodgers or other real good QBs.....Cousins is just a bit above QBs like Sam Howell.
Yall must be new to the Falcons...😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
As a vikings fan im beyond happy to say goodbye to choke artist kirk. Im ready for the young JJ with his mobility, zippy arm, and swagger.
Falcons fans this is what it’s like to be a Packer fan. Drafting for the future not today
Falcons didn't have to sign cousin's too be honest.
I don't how people don't understand that a qb like Penix Jr don't come around that often. The falcons paid the average cost of what it takes to compete with everyone in that conference, In Kirk cousins they know if cousins gets hurt againe or doesn't come back the same player he was lastyear they had to take M.P..jr to assure if they have a franchise qb they will always stay competetive.
You know you wanted the cowboys to take him 😂 the future is bright in ATL
Atlanta did the absolutely right thing. Panic sits for a couple of years, learns, takes over successfully.
The only thing that is a mistake is paying cousins 180 million dollars. Pendix Jr is a phenomenal player
As a Colts fan, I’d like to say thank you. You may be the reason why the colts got 1st overall pick for defense.
U can always draft a good pass rusher in the second or third round but u don’t leave someone that good on the board
Tbh im not too upset about the pick as a Falcons fan. The one thing i was worried about was if Kirk goes down, who replaces him besides Taylor, who also gets injured a decent amount. Trust me, i wanted someone on defense, but at least if Kirk goes down we can see how Penix turns out. What also helps is that barely any defese was taken so hopfully we pick up a dline guy in the second round
This is reminiscent of Jordan Love getting drafted by Green Bay.
Worked out well for them. I’m not mad.
Way different. Rodgers had a not great year the year b4, Love dropped in the draft, Love was young compared to Penix, plus the Packers didn't just pick up Rodgers in free agency for 4 years right b4 drafting his replacement. They should've traded back and gotten a defensive player or never given Kirk a 4 year deal. It might all work, but they wasted a pick that could've helped them win this year: Odunze, Turner, etc.
It's not
The most crazy pick in the draft. Penix at 8th is crazy. Falcons needed a OL or WR or defensive player.
I’m no Falcon’s fan but I’ve been doing this since the 80’s as a child with my dad who has a sports pedigree as a player, so it’s in me and you don’t pass on top QB’s period. And I know nobody believes Cousins is him not even the Falcon’s now that’s simple.😂😂
Incase cousins gets hurt and cant compete they have penix to fill in the slot ...why they paid cousins so much ? Pure stupidity 🤣😂
Falcons don’t want to be like the Steelers getting stuck with an older, injured and bad shape quarterback. Have to get a good quarterback when they could.
I agree with Mike - fill one of the existing deficiencies on offense/defense with that #8 pick. It’s a WIN NOW league!
Everyone mocked the packers when they took Jordan love and now they are praising them Kirk's deal is a 2 year deal which allows penix to sit and develop build his confidence and hone his skills before taking over
The pick wasn’t baffling. What was baffling is the contract the Falcons offered Cousins. It’s all gonna make sense when the Seahawks and Falcons eventually play. Byron Murphy II, who the Falcons should’ve selected, is gonna lay Cousins out. In steps Penix Jr, and the rest is history.
I guarantee you, Penix does not look at this as a dream situation, he doesn’t want to sit there on the bench four years. Who the hell wants to sit on the bench.
Why is it a mistake AND THE SEASON HASNT HAPPENED YET.
Ya'll WEIRD AF! *Just let it play out! *are you not entertained?!!*