Automatic transmissions: have drastically improved in the past 15 years especially. Shifts faster than manual transmissions. Now have gear control using paddle shifters Manual transmission fans: “aT lEaSt nObOdY cAn stEAl my cAR”
Lol I drive manual every day but it isn't hard to see that you are trading performance for more personal taste. If I was a racer, I would go automatic paddle shifting every day but out in town, manuals make my life more fun on the road. It only sucks during traffic if stuck in it for more than 20 minutes.
@@brandzsantos4670 Modern day automatics can outperform manuals in both speed and fuel efficiency. More gears, near instant shifting, lock-up clutches, and computers that make better choices than humans will do that.
@@jordonsample7922 None, even if I did, I'd still be more clever than you trying to be witty with a cliched response to a post or comment (in this case) in which you don't like.
Using paddle shifters is a lot better than manual, my mustang is a paddle shifter and I’ve raced in both automatic and manual both are good. The 24 hour le man cars are paddle shifters.
Automatic is more consistent and a 6 speed man. You need to know how to launch. It's not as easy as it seems. Need to get 2 real drivers that do drag for a living to really do this test. They both everyday car guys and drag isn't really their thing.
Jose Vega auto is "almost always" faster in a straight line on power. the main reason is a torque converter. it multiplies torque of an engine at the same load. basically your engine bogs less by staying in max torque longer. so an auto can pull longer gears (shift less and faster) and keep you in the max power longer. only down fall is you not putting max power to the wheel (high HP just make wheel spin anyways), but in auto, you're putting more power over time to wheel under acceleration. keep in mind this is "almost always" ture not always.
I have two performance V8 vehicles one is manual and the other an automatic and anytime I think there might be high traffic, I drive the auto. Manuals are fun, but in a traffic jam, it's a total pain in the a$$...can't be good on the clutch either.
I beleive this is in Colorado. You could shave a second at least off of that time due to alltitude. Most races you see on youtube are in a state that is not so high in altitude.
Unless its stated in the video that they are at sea level....99% of these videos on this channel are filmed in locations above 1 mile of elevation. Vehicles that are supercharged or turbocharged still lose power at high elevation. Not as much as NA motors but they still lose power and torque.
I drive a manual but I'm not going to drive a car just cause it's hard to drive. I do it cause I like it not cause the transmission is one that some dont know how to operate.
I know manual and auto. But to argue that driving auto is gay and manual is more musculine is either dumb or dumb. The convenience of auto is literaly a blessing, though i like manual on a long drive, auto in the city is a bliss. Arguing about whats musculine or not is a kids act. Its all about convenience and what suits u best.
HayPagibig I love driving a stick shift but I have to agree with you. It’s stupid how people can say that ones better than the other. It’s all based on preference. Auto’s are definitely faster than any manual, the new gearboxes in cars can shift faster than any human.
I've grown up dragracing, 20+ years on the track. And one thing for sure, no transmission dodge has ever made will compete against the new 8 speed automatics they have in these cars now. I rented just the basic RT model and it automatically made me want a hellcat for sure for my next new car purchase.
Nissan is actually pretty good at automatics too. I know a guy that put a q50 transmission in a g37x with a straight pipe and he didn't even need a tune to wake the car up. The 400 Z has a 9 speed dual clutch and the industry standard right now is 7. I'm talking about these guys had dual cluthes in 2007. Nissan and Dodge are masters at the automatic game. It's just a little hard for me to justify driving their cars.
Automatics in sport mode are configured to be as fast as possible, which means gear changes are a lot quicker than manual shifting. Manual stick shift or paddle shifters will nearly always lose to straight automatics in track mode, (drag race for sure) and obviously the power output makes a big difference.
Guys, modern automatics will always be faster,get over it. As much as I'm a manual fan, automatics were designed to be better, simple as that, we don't even need this debate, thought we'd moved past that years ago. Manuals only have street cred and wow-factor going for them and yeah, if you ruin a manual box it's a lot easier to put back together than an automatic. And the efficiency argument also got a bunch of holes punched into it around 2004. Let it go...
Mr Headass yes, it is there are however automatics designed for performance driving but those are costly. You can as shift down to a lower gear to get more power to the wheels when you need to.
BKamron manuals are faster in a long drive not a short drive. Automatic s much accelerate in short drive like dat not even a 1km race its only 500m in 500m d manual u cant shift a 5speed or 6speed but automatic is much accelerate and it can shift 2 7speed or 8 speed in 500m run. I can drive both and manual is much faster in a long way. D advantage of automatic is fast acceleration thats it.
BKamron that’s not true, only with cars like this or super cars, normal every car automatic transmission is shit and nowhere near as fast as a manual can be
Realistically...when it comes to drag racing. Automatic is by far faster. But people who have never had more than 600 horse under their foot wouldn't understand
AGS is exactly right here. Notice he didn't say anything about who would win BUT both CARS would have done better with experienced drivers. The auto guy just stood on it and gave no input at all (I bet he had no idea where peak torque was) and almost 14 sec for any hellcat... really? Nice guys having fun but proved nothing. (I still would bet on the auto though lol)
Guess why race drivers on track control the gears themselves and not let the car decide what gear to use? Because it's faster to let a trained driver do it
You're right. However automatic transmissions are far superior nowadays, especially since the torque converter can be locked at higher speeds. Now we also have DSG's which are basically automatic standard transmissions with torque converters. There's really no beating that.
The 8 speed auto they put in these cars is a wonder of engineering. These automatic transmissions are not like they were 30 years ago. They out perform most manuals because the largest draw back to a manual is the person operating it. A lot of people like to claim they know how to perfectly work a stick, but turns out they still cannot outperform a modern day automatic transmission.
Can perfectly work stick =/= ability to outperform automatics. My current daily driver is a manual but that's cause most traffic here puts me to sleep so I wanted something engaging. But my brother in law has an auto challenger with a manual mode and it's a lot more fun for high speed driving for sure.
Lol dude what are the chances though? Anyone can learn to drive stick in a day or 2 depending how fast they pick it up. In the uk, all dem fuckn people drive manual soooooo....
@@halwayshanzo2307 any air breathing vehicle loses power at higher elevation. Boost is the mechanism for overcoming that. Fighters in WWII had a massive altitude advantage if they were supercharged.
I'll take the stick any day, more connected to the enjoyment, it never seemed to affect the results in my car as pictured. You gotta work to get the best out of a manual trans
I think we all know that manual transmission require much more skill. I've had both automatic mustangs and manual but in my opinion manual transmission just feels more rewarding
I have driven manual sports cars for the last 14 years. Nothing can touch a new automatic.They have those transmissions dialed in. I am not bad at a manual but like Jose said, the automatics are rock solid consistent. My next car will be a DSG.
RSGames I got a DSG, it shifts very fast but you still feel disconnected from the car experience. A auto is a auto no matter how nice u try to make it. Still boring in the long run.
Marcel GT3 i’m pretty sure thieves in 3rd world countries kno how to drive stick too since nearly every other country outside the US drives manual regularly
5:50 as a manual transmission driver i understand that feeling driving automatic, lol im like, what the.... This is so cool! im like driving a bump car.
Most modern cars are taking the automatic route. Especially high end sport and super cars. As modern cars performance baseline grows higher and higher most of these style of huge power Straight liners will probobly phase out the manual. Leaving really only focus st, miatas, and cars made for fun and handling to still have traditional gearboxes
As a car young enthusiast that own both type of transmission, I must say I love driving the manual , makes me learn a lot more about driving , precision and all. But when all is said and done I’d rather race on the automatic cos yes I have more time to think ahead than shifting . I love them both though : Manila for learning my precision, and auto to make practicals super easy 👍🏼
I have literally never clicked on a video with the word “manual” in it and have not seen the top comment being someone making an anti theft joke and thinking they’re original.
Thanks again Roman and Andre +The Fast Lane Car it was a blast. Main take away for me elevation costs the hellcat 1 second the manual transmission another .25 seconds, based on some altitude data (altitude factor .9276) Romans car is running per manufacturers specs. As for the M6 there is not a solid reference points but best I have seen is 11.8 which would be 12.8 at altitude. This being my first drag race on a track with a time of 12.4 I have room to improve and an excuse to get some slicks and get back down to Bandimere, until then look for me in the fast lane.
+Jesse Bailey you bet Jesse. Too bad so many people have no clue what racing at a mile above sea level does to drag times. It would be funny if it was not so sad that so many car guys and gals have don't understand the role of oxygen and air pressure in the combustion process.
The Fast Lane Car, you guys will always have people out there spewing bs who have no idea what DA is, and know nothing about the challenges of launching a heavy car on street tires. Everyone runs 9's when they're running their mouth. And as far as slow manuals go, just add more hp! Works for me 👍
+Juan Beltran I bet your as white as paper saying nigga also it does kinda work that way if you redline for a few seconds or shift at lower rpm you won't go as fast you have to time your shifts and know how to Launch and not spin your wheels to much whish ik in a hell cat is hard to do but you need to only spin a lil bit spinnin ain't winnin
Manual still gives you more control, you just have to know how to control it AND have a rock-solid shifting system. You may not notice it in a straight line, but when you catch some oversteer you're gonna wish you had a clutch. 👍
try downshifting from 5th to 2nd on a hair pin in an auto and youll see the diff. semi autos are the fastest obv, but standard with a clutch with left foot breaking is an art form
Even manual hellcat is more lighter than automatic hellcat because of it transmission, Automatic hellcat more faster because it's get 8 speed transmission. So it's can have more close gear ratio than a manual hellcat . That is why many manufacturer choose auto trans. Can create to 8-10 speed transmission. More gear = more close gear ratio = higher acceleration. Sorry more my bad english, atleast everyone can understand what I'm trying to say :P For the sake of spirited driving , I still prefer manual hehehe
Syahwazz Waz they both have the same top speed and acceleration, but the automatic shifts faster that’s why it’s better, the 7th and 8th gears are just overdrives
@@Andrei-eb2du the 5th and 6th gears in a 6 speed are still considered overdrive gears, the same as you'd consider 7th and 8th overdrive gears in the Auto. In most manual transmissons, 4th gear is a 1:1 gear ratio. This ratio varies more in automatics depending on manufacturer and total gears. Regardless, the auto is not faster due to faster changes alone. If this were the case, a manual would not be a full second slower... maybe a few tenths of a second with a good manual driver. Its the addition of 2 extra gears that gives a slightly better edge by improving shift points, maximizing the power band and then the fact of obvious faster shifting solidifies an auto over manual win. Nothing is worse than having to shift gears 50 yards from the finish due to gearing in a manual. Overall though, I much prefer a manual sports car when mucking about the town and having a overall good motoring experience.
A 6 speed auto Vs 6 speed manual would be more fair. It figures that with 2 extra gears the auto can make better used of the engine's power band, even if both drivers were able to launch identically. A rolling race would have been interesting as that would have eliminated launch technique and traction issues.
A manual gives you the feeling of full control. There's nothing like downshifting into a corner without using the brakes and coming out the other end perfectly. My current CRV is the only automatic I've ever bought. I want to find a 5-speed project car.
Kids in this comment section are like "yeah manuals transmissions are way faster, my razer scooter has one" or "my dad has this car so i know much more abput it then you do" lol
Where the MEME SAUCE!?!?! Uh.. Actually anyone with a manual knows autos are quicker off the line. We just arent bitches and actually like to be the one doing the driving.
Matt McAvay manuals are more fun, manuals give me more control, and no one can text and drive in my manual car. I'm home there's lots of things a manual does better and lots of things an auto does better
They both had a 2.8 60ft. Which is terrible. It's so much harder to launch the manual. If either of them could have gotten a better launch, their ETs would have been better.
5764 feet above sea level, worn street tires, less than ideal track conditions and two drivers that are trying not to break their cars. 13.6 is probably about right.
"What a mistake" Not,I'd take my manual Hellcat any day over the automatic. I test drove both,much more fun with a car you have to drive!Maybe different if I had to try and make money at the track,but my cat spends most of its life out cruising and making Mustangs and Camaros look silly in town!:-)
97% of manual drivers will either bog the launch or fry the tyres. 2% of racers know how to launch fast using clutch slip after lots of practice . Only 1% can launch fast and have their clutch last more than 50,000 miles. In summary stick to an auto if you want to drag race.
I have 4 old rigs 3 started out as automatics, at considerable hassle to myself I changed all 3 to a stick shift and could really care a less about quarter mile times I just think 3 peddles are cooler then 2! 👍
Manual nowadays is more for cinematic feeling, kind of like turbo lag for the tension building up. Some like it, some do not. Although there is a difference in skill, as the older man said. Automatic racing another Automatic is equally luck and skill rather stick racing stick is more skill than luck. (Assuming cars are of the same base and mod)
*Both cars have negatives & positives* : 1- Automatic is safer & more consistent & smoth power delivery 2- Manual the powerband is all over the place causing less stability especially when shifting gears . 3- Manual is more reliable , if you are getting an used car out of warranty a new Automatic gearbox can cost you from 2.5k to 6k to repair 99% of Mechanics wont bother opening Automatic gearboxes even if is just a simple sensor problem , they will say "you need a new Auto gearbox $$$$$$$ "
Sure the auto is faster in a straight line, duh! Now put both those cars on a road course where both drivers know the course equally well. You will quickly see exactly where the manual shines with the driver having the ability to select a gear FAR earlier in anticipation of any upcoming corner/maneuvers instead of slushing around until you get on the throttle enough for it to drop a gear. (yes, there are a FEW exceptions) Even using the paddle shifters on a 'fake dual clutch' slushbox can have wide variation in the time it takes from hitting the paddle or slapping the shifter before it tries to shift. Of course this really depends on how much (or how little) you have your foot into the skinny pedal. For the average consumer there is no way to set up an auto to behave and hold the gear you want for the specific amount of time you NEED to stay in a gear to drive at the mechanical limits of the vehicle. Now the Tesla stuff is cool and Ill bet the one pedal driving mode could be pretty precise... I haven't really spent any real quality time with one though, so maybe it sucks on curvy mountain roads?? That's one car I never got to race over my favorite mountain pass in my 5-spd honda accord as I got rid of it before tesla was a thing.
Automatic transmissions have come along long way!!! Look at big trucks, years ago they were mainly a manual case they couldn't build an auto strong enough but the new engineering and technology you just can't beat the new autos!!! Quick shifting, strong!!!
Manuals are harder to drag race. Im eager to get better with my new manual but I think that automatics will always have the edge. Its man vs a well calibrated machine. The auto's will basically have a near perfect run every time by just pushing the gas pedal and holding the wheel.
Come on down to colorado your Hemi or scat pack doesn't have what it takes. 5.7 would be close to 15 seconds in colorado at almost 6000 feet of elevations.
I.T. intern and automatics are just boring. With a manual can feel your improvement when practicing while an automatic is just a car that does everything for you.
On an automatic car you can fall asleep,lollll... Manual cars are simply more fun to drive and gives you a real driver experience... The responsive sensation of the car that's completely on your will is my personal feeling while stepping on the gas... :)
This was rigged. Of course the red one would win. We all know red cars are faster.
😂
Petr Ryba omfg I just noticed that
But the white one had some stickers and everyone know each sticker adds 50HP
@@omaravalos1234 true
@@omaravalos1234 bro I'm dead
So no one saw the old lady drag racing in the background on 1:59
Omg the best
Khalil Davis i think she was driving a Pontiac GTO
@@GomezMotorSport it was a G8, look at the back of the car.
Steven Talamantes yeah close enough, nice car by the way
@@GomezMotorSport yup probably the same 6.0 unless it was the GXP. Nice cars, too bad the prices went up since Pontiac shut down.
With a manual transmission, it all depends on the driver. Sometimes it'll be good and sometimes bad.
Bryne G that was what i literally was writing
Doesn't matter. No human can shift better than a machine. That's like trying to compute faster than a calculator.
@@thomasalias8492 automatic is starting to get better in more expensive transmissions
Tom Foolery then get a Tesla then lol brainlet
@@thomasalias8492 u can shift better, do your research
" It never matters what is under the hood . It's all about the one who's behind the wheel " .
- Dominic Toretto.
Nooo mooniicca
Cool I have a 48 hp Ford Courier you can drag race just let me know how you do.
I can shift but my 1980 volvo solid steel frame couldn't outrun a bouncy ball falling down the steps. I tried.
Not double clutchin' like ya should
Thats what manual fanbois said after losing to automatics 😂😂
Automatic transmissions: have drastically improved in the past 15 years especially. Shifts faster than manual transmissions. Now have gear control using paddle shifters
Manual transmission fans: “aT lEaSt nObOdY cAn stEAl my cAR”
Omg the golden comment.
it’s not hard at all to drive manuals especially the news ones
Lol I drive manual every day but it isn't hard to see that you are trading performance for more personal taste. If I was a racer, I would go automatic paddle shifting every day but out in town, manuals make my life more fun on the road. It only sucks during traffic if stuck in it for more than 20 minutes.
Skylar Grace Lol
Manuals are fun sure autos are fast that’s why no supercars are manual
Roses are red
Violets are blue
Looking for the race?
It's at 2:32
Tuchho Bal
And thank you!
that was beautiful
Good one!!!!
Tuchho Bal violets arent blue idiot
Hold this W
Manual or auto
Both I cant afford :(
Wan Syahmi I think a 1970 Challenger RT will take the new Hellcats.
scrap py you are absolutely right
in The Mercedes A, Automatic is cheaper
Wan Syahmi hell yeah I got you on that
get a job
Gen Z: "purposefully buys manual sports cars because they're more fun to drive"
Baby Boomers: "Millennials can't drive stick lol"
ur so unique and pro
Meanwhile people all over the world drive stick, except in the US.
Im 15 and i can drive manual
soulassassin0g cuz they BROKE
%70 of gen z doesn’t have their drivers license, why didn’t you just stick with millennials
Q: What’s faster? Automatic or manual?
A: U can shift faster than older autos, but not newer ones.
Back in 1991 that was the answer, but in 2019 autos are generally going to be faster and more fuel efficient.
@@Xrelent not fuel efficient tho
@@brandzsantos4670 Modern day automatics can outperform manuals in both speed and fuel efficiency. More gears, near instant shifting, lock-up clutches, and computers that make better choices than humans will do that.
@Mr Mapunde unless you can shift faster
@Philip Chouliaras I agreed...nowadays automatic are much faster and efficient..and it shift precisely..
A manual car is my Millennial Anti-Theft Device.
Not this millinal I'm so disgusted with my gen
Mike Miller oh grow up. It’s a car. Who cares what people want to drive.
What Facebook post did you take this from?
@@jordonsample7922 None, even if I did, I'd still be more clever than you trying to be witty with a cliched response to a post or comment (in this case) in which you don't like.
Haha
Actual drag racing at 2:30
Second race at 5:30
Driving manual is a skill and it’s actually way more fun than during an automatic even if it’s a paddle shift
Except when you live in a crowded ass city.
And you lower chance of your car getting stolen by 60% 😂
Driving a auto is still faster lol
Using paddle shifters is a lot better than manual, my mustang is a paddle shifter and I’ve raced in both automatic and manual both are good. The 24 hour le man cars are paddle shifters.
@@repent.4satan742 it’s okay you can’t drive Manual
Automatic is more consistent and a 6 speed man. You need to know how to launch. It's not as easy as it seems. Need to get 2 real drivers that do drag for a living to really do this test. They both everyday car guys and drag isn't really their thing.
but its the "everyday" drivers who think manuals are better
also 2/3/4 speed drag automatic anyone
Jose Vega A slush box is probably better on a strip, but on a track there's no question.
Oh wait a Hellcat and right turns? Lol my bad.
tc auto is faster on a track
Jose Vega auto is "almost always" faster in a straight line on power. the main reason is a torque converter. it multiplies torque of an engine at the same load. basically your engine bogs less by staying in max torque longer. so an auto can pull longer gears (shift less and faster) and keep you in the max power longer. only down fall is you not putting max power to the wheel (high HP just make wheel spin anyways), but in auto, you're putting more power over time to wheel under acceleration. keep in mind this is "almost always" ture not always.
gastorage, look up a trans brake
I love my manual car, but the constant traffic where I live just makes it a drag to drive.
ItzMeIrvin this is facts
Samee. I love my manual too but ugh my feet hurts so much after
I have two performance V8 vehicles one is manual and the other an automatic and anytime I think there might be high traffic, I drive the auto. Manuals are fun, but in a traffic jam, it's a total pain in the a$$...can't be good on the clutch either.
13 second hellcat? Car needs a new driver. These things should be running mid 11s stock.
I beleive this is in Colorado. You could shave a second at least off of that time due to alltitude. Most races you see on youtube are in a state that is not so high in altitude.
They didn’t do burnouts to get traction either. They were feathering on takeoff with cold tires
Unless its stated in the video that they are at sea level....99% of these videos on this channel are filmed in locations above 1 mile of elevation. Vehicles that are supercharged or turbocharged still lose power at high elevation. Not as much as NA motors but they still lose power and torque.
Hellcats are slow.
@@robvoyles 😆 think your the slow one!!
Me: drives an automatic
My car: has never been stolen
Idk where some of these dudes live that their cars keep getting stolen
A manual isnt gonna keep their rims and wheels getting taken in the hood
My dads manual almost got stolen because the alarm didnt go off right away
You think so hahaha hehe😋😛😜😝?
I drive a manual but I'm not going to drive a car just cause it's hard to drive. I do it cause I like it not cause the transmission is one that some dont know how to operate.
Do you drive a Honda
Automatic - Faster
Manual - More Fun
At the end of the day, it doesn't matter, you're driving a Hellcat!
*In a straight line*
DJHeroMasta this is just like ps4 vs Xbox one 😂
Lmao yea, all about the preferences man, ppl seem to forget that. You like what you like lol
Thats not what the driver said
Mk.Jordi Official stock? Lmao... Na. Definitely not. Modded maybe.
I know manual and auto. But to argue that driving auto is gay and manual is more musculine is either dumb or dumb. The convenience of auto is literaly a blessing, though i like manual on a long drive, auto in the city is a bliss. Arguing about whats musculine or not is a kids act. Its all about convenience and what suits u best.
HayPagibig I love driving a stick shift but I have to agree with you. It’s stupid how people can say that ones better than the other. It’s all based on preference. Auto’s are definitely faster than any manual, the new gearboxes in cars can shift faster than any human.
Nickatrix10 not true, everyday cars have shitty auto transmission
Ekill say who? Its just your opinion. Say that to the millions of households who prefer A/T.
HayPagibig ok you can’t drive be manual obviously
Ekill another opinion. Try more.
I've grown up dragracing, 20+ years on the track. And one thing for sure, no transmission dodge has ever made will compete against the new 8 speed automatics they have in these cars now. I rented just the basic RT model and it automatically made me want a hellcat for sure for my next new car purchase.
Nissan is actually pretty good at automatics too. I know a guy that put a q50 transmission in a g37x with a straight pipe and he didn't even need a tune to wake the car up. The 400 Z has a 9 speed dual clutch and the industry standard right now is 7. I'm talking about these guys had dual cluthes in 2007. Nissan and Dodge are masters at the automatic game. It's just a little hard for me to justify driving their cars.
That guy was shifting like my grandma
He wasn't double clutching like he should either....
Automatics in sport mode are configured to be as fast as possible, which means gear changes are a lot quicker than manual shifting.
Manual stick shift or paddle shifters will nearly always lose to straight automatics in track mode, (drag race for sure) and obviously the power output makes a big difference.
Guys, modern automatics will always be faster,get over it. As much as I'm a manual fan, automatics were designed to be better, simple as that, we don't even need this debate, thought we'd moved past that years ago. Manuals only have street cred and wow-factor going for them and yeah, if you ruin a manual box it's a lot easier to put back together than an automatic. And the efficiency argument also got a bunch of holes punched into it around 2004. Let it go...
BKamron is manual better for drifting?
Mr Headass yes, it is there are however automatics designed for performance driving but those are costly. You can as shift down to a lower gear to get more power to the wheels when you need to.
BKamron manuals are faster in a long drive not a short drive. Automatic s much accelerate in short drive like dat not even a 1km race its only 500m in 500m d manual u cant shift a 5speed or 6speed but automatic is much accelerate and it can shift 2 7speed or 8 speed in 500m run. I can drive both and manual is much faster in a long way. D advantage of automatic is fast acceleration thats it.
BKamron that’s not true, only with cars like this or super cars, normal every car automatic transmission is shit and nowhere near as fast as a manual can be
Though manuals you'll never have to replace the transmission as long as you don't screw up the clutch
Realistically it's all about the person behind the wheel
AGS automatics will always be faster, no matter the driver.
Realistically...when it comes to drag racing. Automatic is by far faster. But people who have never had more than 600 horse under their foot wouldn't understand
KNACK 2 THA FUTURE not exactly true. Auto will have less whp since the auto robs power.
KNACK 2 THA FUTURE "automatic is faster no matter the situation"
What about Drifting??? Do you think auto is better to drift with???
AGS is exactly right here. Notice he didn't say anything about who would win BUT both CARS would have done better with experienced drivers. The auto guy just stood on it and gave no input at all (I bet he had no idea where peak torque was) and almost 14 sec for any hellcat... really? Nice guys having fun but proved nothing. (I still would bet on the auto though lol)
Automatic-faster
Manual-more fun(granted you don’t live in a traffic heavy city)
Answer- nobody cares
Automatic isn't faster tho
@@JoelLinus it is
fact
@@JoelLinus computer systems in high end cars in 2020 now are craxy fast theres no way u can shift that fast on an h pattern.
@@JoelLinus It is nowadays, old automatics were less efficient than manuals but autos has improved a lot
You can't out shift an automatic
Incensed Shark59 On a strip maybe not, take it a to track, different story.
Jacob Wolfe still
Guess why race drivers on track control the gears themselves and not let the car decide what gear to use? Because it's faster to let a trained driver do it
Jacob Wolfe Exactly. Driving in a straight line isn't that impressive.
Luke M Murphy hell yeah turn left
When it comes to manual, it’s about the driver✊
who cares....the win matters..
And if the drivers meh auto wins?
@@mojojoji5493 Auto always wins these days. Modern Autos shift faster than any human.
It’s still got less gears and shifts slower
You're right. However automatic transmissions are far superior nowadays, especially since the torque converter can be locked at higher speeds. Now we also have DSG's which are basically automatic standard transmissions with torque converters. There's really no beating that.
Might not be able to out shift a automatic. . . But I'll damn sure try!!
The 8 speed auto they put in these cars is a wonder of engineering. These automatic transmissions are not like they were 30 years ago. They out perform most manuals because the largest draw back to a manual is the person operating it. A lot of people like to claim they know how to perfectly work a stick, but turns out they still cannot outperform a modern day automatic transmission.
Can perfectly work stick =/= ability to outperform automatics.
My current daily driver is a manual but that's cause most traffic here puts me to sleep so I wanted something engaging. But my brother in law has an auto challenger with a manual mode and it's a lot more fun for high speed driving for sure.
The automatic is faster, but I’ll still go for the manual. Makes a great anti-theft device.
Robert B. Where do you live east LA? México?
Lol dude what are the chances though? Anyone can learn to drive stick in a day or 2 depending how fast they pick it up. In the uk, all dem fuckn people drive manual soooooo....
Yeah tell that to people in third world countries....
Not in the UK or Mainland Europe.
Car theft rings will just use a wrecker and snatch your car as easy as a Repo man dude.
Dude is driving a Hellcat and ran a 13.6.... I run a 13.8 in my stock motor '13 R/T this guy can't drive to save his life.
Its kinda sad really. Even a manual hellcat should run 11s with the 6 speed....stock... The auto....low 11s. Hellcat with drag radials ru. High 10s...
xXBirdsmurfXx dude sucks , he needs to go back to automatic
You do realize that any boosted vehicle loses power at higher elevations right? They'd hit 11s at or around sea level.
@@halwayshanzo2307 any air breathing vehicle loses power at higher elevation. Boost is the mechanism for overcoming that. Fighters in WWII had a massive altitude advantage if they were supercharged.
@@sunnyd4204 bro，your words had no logic.
I'll take the stick any day, more connected to the enjoyment, it never seemed to affect the results in my car as pictured. You gotta work to get the best out of a manual trans
I only droven manual
What about an auto with a manual valvebody?
Scared of toasters - or if you move to a city lol
go to philipines manila lets see if you can survive using manual i would choose auto cause in traffic its hell!
Manuals are more fun for cars under 500hp, when you start making big power and dialed in auto is the way to go.
I think we all know that manual transmission require much more skill. I've had both automatic mustangs and manual but in my opinion manual transmission just feels more rewarding
I have driven manual sports cars for the last 14 years. Nothing can touch a new automatic.They have those transmissions dialed in. I am not bad at a manual but like Jose said, the automatics are rock solid consistent. My next car will be a DSG.
My dad has a DSG and it shifts so quick
ZippyTPinhead what is DSG?
GattaSplatta Man
Direct Shift Gearbox
RSGames I got a DSG, it shifts very fast but you still feel disconnected from the car experience. A auto is a auto no matter how nice u try to make it. Still boring in the long run.
GC 10 Well I wouldn't know, I've never driven a DSG
Where do these people that drive manual transmission cars live that they have their car stolen on a regular basis?
Third world countries. Thieves steal to survive.
California
Chicago, detroit, camden, shreveport any black city
Marcel GT3 i’m pretty sure thieves in 3rd world countries kno how to drive stick too since nearly every other country outside the US drives manual regularly
Hahaha
5:50 as a manual transmission driver i understand that feeling driving automatic, lol im like, what the.... This is so cool! im like driving a bump car.
Manual gives a real driving experience;)
Facts
Very true. I love both, auto for a daily in town, and manual for my rally car.
my dad doesnt like automatic bcoz its too boring for him thats why he picked manual because for him its more challenging
Agree!
sez who??
Auto for sure is faster, but their is something about a manual an auto will never replace.....
Z2357111319 control, that's all it gives you.
+dragonblade101 and it's a lot more fun and being able to review and stuff and burnouts
Most modern cars are taking the automatic route. Especially high end sport and super cars. As modern cars performance baseline grows higher and higher most of these style of huge power Straight liners will probobly phase out the manual. Leaving really only focus st, miatas, and cars made for fun and handling to still have traditional gearboxes
abyxis since most high end cars come from European brands where the majority drives manual so they while always have traditional gearboxes.
Autos never have to repair their clutches m
As a car young enthusiast that own both type of transmission, I must say I love driving the manual , makes me learn a lot more about driving , precision and all. But when all is said and done I’d rather race on the automatic cos yes I have more time to think ahead than shifting . I love them both though : Manila for learning my precision, and auto to make practicals super easy 👍🏼
The red cars back cup holder was down causing it to go faster, this is bs
I have literally never clicked on a video with the word “manual” in it and have not seen the top comment being someone making an anti theft joke and thinking they’re original.
Thanks again Roman and Andre +The Fast Lane Car it was a blast. Main take away for me elevation costs the hellcat 1 second the manual transmission another .25 seconds, based on some altitude data (altitude factor .9276) Romans car is running per manufacturers specs. As for the M6 there is not a solid reference points but best I have seen is 11.8 which would be 12.8 at altitude. This being my first drag race on a track with a time of 12.4 I have room to improve and an excuse to get some slicks and get back down to Bandimere, until then look for me in the fast lane.
+Jesse Bailey you bet Jesse. Too bad so many people have no clue what racing at a mile above sea level does to drag times. It would be funny if it was not so sad that so many car guys and gals have don't understand the role of oxygen and air pressure in the combustion process.
The Fast Lane Car, you guys will always have people out there spewing bs who have no idea what DA is, and know nothing about the challenges of launching a heavy car on street tires. Everyone runs 9's when they're running their mouth. And as far as slow manuals go, just add more hp! Works for me 👍
Automatics are better for getting road head😂
36090pburke lol for real unless youre on a expressway in 5th gear
36090pburke whats the girl gonna sit on then?
HAHA yesssir lmao
If she can't shift for you while giving head, she's not the right one anyways.
@@militaryiam97 the tow bar
I honestly don't care if it is a second slower I would still take the manual...
frdman it's not about if he is smart or not some people prefer manual
@frdman auto is for pussys who can't drive stick. It's a muscle car not a corolla.
Yankee 1985 Auto always rule
the sensation shifting gears liek toretto. that's what we looking for
cuase the more buttons and levers you have the more manly you feel huh?
I think I saw 3 vipers in this video and I'm jealous...
The Dodge viper is my favorite car
Same here. The blue ‘97 especially. Wanted that car ever since I was a kid. Might be able to get it in a few years!
Manual drivers triggered af rn lmao
Enterprise Earth it's not too late, you can still learn.
Skoldpadda why don't you try it
Skoldpadda bro try using a manual on hillstart. It would take you 30 minutes to learn that
RISEUP Gamer There are many reasons why people prefer an automatic.
LOVES 2 Smooch bro😐
iam only 16 and i drive a manual like a pro
What we learned is nobody can drive a manual hellcat properly
waterloo123100
Eh hm high elevation.
waterloo123100 Good good!😂
results wouldn't be different.
I.T. Intern yeah they would be when you learn to launch out of the hole like a real manual can
waterloo123100 nah, it would be the same results lol
I don’t care, I’m still gonna stick with an H pattern. They’re a lot funner to drive
More fun*
Then y r u here
I'm n it for the speed ,I thought that was the fun part
MAFIANA GOD MODE GAMING I’m not having this argument
Until you burn up a clutch !!!!!
5:50 And at that moment, a man became a boy.
My dream car is a viper
L1ghtn1ngStr1ke 1 Dodge Viper
Bro me too, I wanna t/a 2.0 or acr
New autos are faster than manuals but those manual launches sucked
Ray Wilson you're right. The only thing I learned from this video was that neither driver could properly launch a manual transmission.
And that's why you don't see them using stick shift cars that much
+Cam Man it's because.neither of them can drive manual is 10 times faster if you shift propperly
Jack Gaming nigga it doesn't work that way 😂😂
+Juan Beltran I bet your as white as paper saying nigga also it does kinda work that way if you redline for a few seconds or shift at lower rpm you won't go as fast you have to time your shifts and know how to Launch and not spin your wheels to much whish ik in a hell cat is hard to do but you need to only spin a lil bit spinnin ain't winnin
This video made me feel reassured about my automatic. Even though it's an automatic, it has paddles on the steering wheel so I can shift gears.
Same. I love my 2020 camaro
Likewise . I got modified exhaust. I raced other Hellcats before and I smoked em
Racing manuals is a test of driver skills, racing automatics is a test of the engineer's skills.
Roses are red
Violets are blue
Looking for the 2nd race?
It's at 5:32
ema azura goat
Marco Pena no u
When u try to steal the top comment lol
Thanks brother
Manual still gives you more control, you just have to know how to control it AND have a rock-solid shifting system. You may not notice it in a straight line, but when you catch some oversteer you're gonna wish you had a clutch. 👍
Considering these cars have 707 hp, there 1/4 times are absolutely horrendous
At higher altitudes performance goes down, the drivers aren't bad.
Yeah because they have the aerodynamics of a brick 😂
From running constant high 10s, low 11s, with my 6 speed. Were either of you trying?
"i have a secret weapon" "what is it?" "im almost out of gas" 🤣🤣
"Don't tell Jesse this but I've got a secret weapon"
"What's that?"
"I'm almost out of gas"
What a savage!
Manuals impress high school girls, automatics win the races.
More like high school dudes
I’d like to see your race a manual in an automatic on any actual race track that isn’t a straight line.
Religion LOL how are all manuel drivers honda civic drivers?
People with little dicks buy autos.
atif im an m3 druver son
I have a neon srt4 with boltons and a tune and i ran a 12.5 1/4 mile in a 300whp car
try downshifting from 5th to 2nd on a hair pin in an auto and youll see the diff. semi autos are the fastest obv, but standard with a clutch with left foot breaking is an art form
Even manual hellcat is more lighter than automatic hellcat because of it transmission, Automatic hellcat more faster because it's get 8 speed transmission. So it's can have more close gear ratio than a manual hellcat . That is why many manufacturer choose auto trans. Can create to 8-10 speed transmission. More gear = more close gear ratio = higher acceleration. Sorry more my bad english, atleast everyone can understand what I'm trying to say :P For the sake of spirited driving , I still prefer manual hehehe
Syahwazz Waz they both have the same top speed and acceleration, but the automatic shifts faster that’s why it’s better, the 7th and 8th gears are just overdrives
The auto is like 8 pounds heavier
@@Andrei-eb2du the 5th and 6th gears in a 6 speed are still considered overdrive gears, the same as you'd consider 7th and 8th overdrive gears in the Auto. In most manual transmissons, 4th gear is a 1:1 gear ratio. This ratio varies more in automatics depending on manufacturer and total gears.
Regardless, the auto is not faster due to faster changes alone. If this were the case, a manual would not be a full second slower... maybe a few tenths of a second with a good manual driver.
Its the addition of 2 extra gears that gives a slightly better edge by improving shift points, maximizing the power band and then the fact of obvious faster shifting solidifies an auto over manual win.
Nothing is worse than having to shift gears 50 yards from the finish due to gearing in a manual.
Overall though, I much prefer a manual sports car when mucking about the town and having a overall good motoring experience.
Regardless of outcome the ZF8 is hands down the best auto transmission ever put in a car or truck. Geman engineering at it's finest!
I just bought a challenger RT with a 6 speed manual, dont regret a thing!
A 6 speed auto Vs 6 speed manual would be more fair. It figures that with 2 extra gears the auto can make better used of the engine's power band, even if both drivers were able to launch identically.
A rolling race would have been interesting as that would have eliminated launch technique and traction issues.
It's not about what's fair, it's about which one is faster.
@@ZemzyOserisimagine if someone put a 12 gear manual from a truck in a small road car 💀💀
A manual gives you the feeling of full control. There's nothing like downshifting into a corner without using the brakes and coming out the other end perfectly. My current CRV is the only automatic I've ever bought. I want to find a 5-speed project car.
Kids in this comment section are like "yeah manuals transmissions are way faster, my razer scooter has one" or "my dad has this car so i know much more abput it then you do" lol
Where the MEME SAUCE!?!?! Kkkkkkkkkkk yes like this
Where the MEME SAUCE!?!?! grammar=jack shit
Where the MEME SAUCE!?!?! Uh.. Actually anyone with a manual knows autos are quicker off the line. We just arent bitches and actually like to be the one doing the driving.
Tbh there funner
Yes tough Prius driver all these “kids”
How do they do on a track with corners left and right???
So much hate...
So much envy... lol
Beau Binning I really don't think it's envy.
Muscle Everything I'm not jealous I've got my dream car, just saying they need to practice they're driver mod
I'll be a little slower for a stick, just because anyone who has driven a good sounding car with a stick knows what I mean.
Also, with practice you could bring those e/t down.
Muscle Everything well duh, how many of us will have the chance to comfortably own something like this in our lifetimes?
I'll still get a manual
Logan Xiong good, theres only one thing a manual beats an auto with. Resale value
Matt McAvay Auto have higher resale value.
crazyflyboy30 which is it I'd like to know?
Matt McAvay manuals are more fun, manuals give me more control, and no one can text and drive in my manual car. I'm home there's lots of things a manual does better and lots of things an auto does better
Name one a manual does better.
Automatic or manual. Who cares. Drive both!
DantEightSix Nice suggestion
stop saying it's about the driver, they swapped drivers already.
Besides, an auto has more gears, easier to stay on the powerband.
13.6 in a 700hp car.....whats the deal!!
myusernames1967 elevation which means less power and no drag radials which means poor launch and traction so both making the car alower
hellcats will do mid 11's easy just crappy conditions. My stock scat pack did a 12.6 lol.
They both had a 2.8 60ft. Which is terrible. It's so much harder to launch the manual. If either of them could have gotten a better launch, their ETs would have been better.
5764 feet above sea level, worn street tires, less than ideal track conditions and two drivers that are trying not to break their cars. 13.6 is probably about right.
1guyin10 I ran a 13.6 in my old 5.7 hemi.
"What a mistake" Not,I'd take my manual Hellcat any day over the automatic. I test drove both,much more fun with a car you have to drive!Maybe different if I had to try and make money at the track,but my cat spends most of its life out cruising and making Mustangs and Camaros look silly in town!:-)
Neither driver impressed me they left too soft and actually shifted like they were on the freeway hahaha come and run me in a stick I'll show you fast
I'm sure you 2007 manual can beat they're hellcat lmao
97% of manual drivers will either bog the launch or fry the tyres. 2% of racers know how to launch fast using clutch slip after lots of practice . Only 1% can launch fast and have their clutch last more than 50,000 miles. In summary stick to an auto if you want to drag race.
I have 4 old rigs 3 started out as automatics, at considerable hassle to myself I changed all 3 to a stick shift and could really care a less about quarter mile times I just think 3 peddles are cooler then 2! 👍
Manual nowadays is more for cinematic feeling, kind of like turbo lag for the tension building up. Some like it, some do not. Although there is a difference in skill, as the older man said. Automatic racing another Automatic is equally luck and skill rather stick racing stick is more skill than luck. (Assuming cars are of the same base and mod)
*Both cars have negatives & positives* :
1- Automatic is safer & more consistent & smoth power delivery
2- Manual the powerband is all over the place causing less stability especially when shifting gears
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3- Manual is more reliable , if you are getting an used car out of warranty a new Automatic gearbox can cost you from 2.5k to 6k to repair 99% of Mechanics wont bother opening Automatic gearboxes even if is just a simple sensor problem , they will say "you need a new Auto gearbox $$$$$$$ "
Also, under harder circumstances, let's say snow or big hills, a skilled manual driver would actually be better than an automatic
Sure the auto is faster in a straight line, duh! Now put both those cars on a road course where both drivers know the course equally well. You will quickly see exactly where the manual shines with the driver having the ability to select a gear FAR earlier in anticipation of any upcoming corner/maneuvers instead of slushing around until you get on the throttle enough for it to drop a gear. (yes, there are a FEW exceptions)
Even using the paddle shifters on a 'fake dual clutch' slushbox can have wide variation in the time it takes from hitting the paddle or slapping the shifter before it tries to shift. Of course this really depends on how much (or how little) you have your foot into the skinny pedal. For the average consumer there is no way to set up an auto to behave and hold the gear you want for the specific amount of time you NEED to stay in a gear to drive at the mechanical limits of the vehicle.
Now the Tesla stuff is cool and Ill bet the one pedal driving mode could be pretty precise... I haven't really spent any real quality time with one though, so maybe it sucks on curvy mountain roads?? That's one car I never got to race over my favorite mountain pass in my 5-spd honda accord as I got rid of it before tesla was a thing.
5:30 thank you
Automatic transmissions have come along long way!!! Look at big trucks, years ago they were mainly a manual case they couldn't build an auto strong enough but the new engineering and technology you just can't beat the new autos!!! Quick shifting, strong!!!
“I don’t have eco mode”
😑 yup. Because you’re car is a manual. You’re in charge of the efficiency, essentially.
After automatic technology surpassed manuals it shifts quicker. You simply can't shift as fast its not the 90s anymore....
Manuals are harder to drag race. Im eager to get better with my new manual but I think that automatics will always have the edge. Its man vs a well calibrated machine. The auto's will basically have a near perfect run every time by just pushing the gas pedal and holding the wheel.
I ran mid 13s in a manual 5.7, lol. Get someone that can drive.
There is no way anyone could control that power on rear wheels without spinning them. I did 12.7 with my Scat pack 6.4 manual.
@@alenfgreen Me too. And I've ran 11s with my Hellcat. This channel is funny.
Dude yeah. I also ran 13s in my auto 5.7...I've seen scatpacks run low 12s and hellcats at mid to low 11s.....something isnt tight here loll
@@Kennethwells7594 their truck channel seems really tight and I watch it regularly, but cars aren't their forte.
Fr bro😂
Granny shifting not double clutching like you should
Fast and furious
That auto trans is hard to beat on the track.. a manual is fun as hell on the sreet.. keep em rolling.. thanks for sharing
Manuals are fun to drive but not in traffic. Thats where Autos shine. But to each their own...
Manual are more fun and automatics are more faster 💯
Which ones faster, an automatic, or two guys that can't drive a manual?
Come on down to colorado your Hemi or scat pack doesn't have what it takes. 5.7 would be close to 15 seconds in colorado at almost 6000 feet of elevations.
Jesse Bailey watch the video
I'm in the video ?
Jesse Bailey ok then, you can't shift.
Do you think there could be other factors in play or just my shifting lol?
There's nothing wrong with having a automatic
Manuel had a driver error code. That’s why.
Are they stock or tuned?
Early shift?
Good driver?
Exactly
You have to know how to drive to turn quick times with a manual. Give me the stick any day.
Randall Palmer it's still slow regardless.
I.T. intern and automatics are just boring. With a manual can feel your improvement when practicing while an automatic is just a car that does everything for you.
Janno_O rather have speed for this type of car. I'll take the manual in a track based car like gt350r or ats v.
You gotta be very skill with the stick shift to beat the automatic version of any car done this test many times my self
No
yes it really matters when you shift
YES MANUAL ARE MORE ENGAGING AND FUN PEOPLE. But if I want a higher chance to win races, I’m going automatic
i knew roman was sitting in the automatic before he even said it lol
Kyle Jansky no paddle shifter you are not a genius
On an automatic car you can fall asleep,lollll... Manual cars are simply more fun to drive and gives you a real driver experience... The responsive sensation of the car that's completely on your will is my personal feeling while stepping on the gas... :)
He put his car in eco mode haha
BriefCarBreakdown that old guy seems cool af I’d kick it with him
At the end of the day, we all love cars