Honda HR-V vs Nissan Kicks vs Toyota Corolla Cross: Gas vs hybrid Big Test | Top Gear Philippines

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  • @edwin_ac
    @edwin_ac Рік тому +23

    Excellent comparison. It's still a matter of priority. If you have lots of money, and appreciate the joy of driving, the HRV will beat the 2.

  • @RJ-mf6yp
    @RJ-mf6yp Рік тому +26

    For me the back seat comfort is a tie.
    Cross elbow space is lesser while kicks has more while leg room the otherway around.
    For the fuel economy, the other 2 are in eco mode while kicks is in normal mode. This one is clearly not fair regardless if kicks is using regenerative braking which should be part of the equation.
    Kicks may have even beat hrv in terms of braking if set in eco mode due to regenerative braking assistance as well.

    • @jerrytrinidad7484
      @jerrytrinidad7484 Рік тому +1

      Especially when the kicks is in B mode.. the breaking would be mush better .. rigged!

  • @Tleilaxu_Mentat
    @Tleilaxu_Mentat Рік тому +21

    Your 1st test, the 0-80 kph is invalid since you revved the HR-V so that the turbo would be spooled before starting, that's not how it would be used in the real world. Just floor the throttle from idle RPM for all 3 cars, using it's sportiest accelerator mapping. And why the arbitrary 0-80, just make it the standard 0-100 kph test. If you want to test in-gear, highway overtaking then test the 80-100 or 80-120 kph acceleration as well.

  • @SethPinnock
    @SethPinnock Рік тому +20

    I disagree with the boot space comparison I think the Nissan should be in first place because the boot was in place with all the items stored while in the Toyota the boot cover had to be retracted

  • @katiebumbum1113
    @katiebumbum1113 Рік тому +8

    You should have included the Mazda CX-30 Hybrid instead of the Honda HR-V.

  • @muratcelikkol4270
    @muratcelikkol4270 Рік тому +21

    Interesting test, however you never covered the driving experience at all. The Kicks being 100% electrically driven, would have a hugely different driving experience than the other two. Examples of which would be NVH levels, 1 pedal Driving, instant torque of 280nm, ie all the benefits of a 100% electric drive train. This plays huge to anyone that enjoys driving.

    • @noski33
      @noski33 9 місяців тому +1

      Agree. Now they have the Kicks hybrid, maybe need to revisit this comparison test

  • @lowyiliang1820
    @lowyiliang1820 Рік тому +10

    Hrv definitely looks better in term of design, and not to forget it had magic seats that can tall, fold, and flat mode which tcc and kicks dont have.

  • @ericmonte7671
    @ericmonte7671 Рік тому +7

    If the TCC would have not been granted an extra point for braking, Kicks and TCC would have been tied overall. For the price point, power to fuel efficiency, guess who wins

  • @stuartmisfeldt3068
    @stuartmisfeldt3068 8 місяців тому +2

    The Yaris cross hybrid is more equivalent to the kicks. The TCC is next level up.

  • @rdl3852
    @rdl3852 Рік тому +34

    They felt cramped most in the cross but still got 3 points???!!!???

    • @valerieang2581
      @valerieang2581 Рік тому +3

      Maybe because it has the best Head room n best hip room, 2nd best leg room, but with ac.

  • @jexhunt.307
    @jexhunt.307 Рік тому +6

    id choose the kicks amongst the three haha
    altho the guy with the glasses was really defending the hrv
    and when speaking of cargo space i would think the kicks won that round

    • @charlesa1234
      @charlesa1234 5 місяців тому

      Kicks managed to fit the entire luggage without removing the top cover. In Corolla Cross they removed the cover

  • @raycg80
    @raycg80 Рік тому +11

    Hi, just noticed the remark at the end “even w/o double points, TCC would have won by one” computation actually without double points is TCC = 20-3, Kicks = 19-2, and HRV = 17-1 which makes the TCC and Kicks a tie. And honestly, there was very lil diff between the two’s consumption 27:25

  • @HighlandFace94
    @HighlandFace94 Рік тому +3

    I'd still go for the Honda HRV👍👍

  • @gabrielgaite5964
    @gabrielgaite5964 7 місяців тому +5

    Kicls is the clear winner here.

  • @randel8737
    @randel8737 Рік тому +12

    I really like the TCC, for me the looks are superior compared to the two. I got a chance to test one last year and didn't really take a seat on the 2nd row. I was surprised that it has less shoulder and elbow room despite its size. But for a point difference versus the price tag, I think the Kicks and TCC Hybrid are a tie.

  • @jarespiritu
    @jarespiritu Рік тому +5

    The Cross has low speed follow, it's just not advertised. Try to trigger the adaptive cruise control in traffic and it will do a low speed follow ;)

  • @jayson8825
    @jayson8825 Рік тому +12

    Maintenance and Durability. Id go for HRV.

    • @Tleilaxu_Mentat
      @Tleilaxu_Mentat Рік тому +6

      With that unrepairable CVT that costs 300K at the casa? Lulz.

    • @troy5568
      @troy5568 Рік тому +2

      ​@@Tleilaxu_MentatThis is Honda that we're talking, not Nissan, lol.

    • @Tleilaxu_Mentat
      @Tleilaxu_Mentat Рік тому +2

      @@troy5568 They're both using CVTs, both are unrepairable.

    • @morisjohnny84
      @morisjohnny84 23 дні тому

      The Kicks doesn't hv CVT transmission.. Lol..

  • @badjoke2880
    @badjoke2880 Рік тому +3

    value for moneybahould be at keats 3-6-9 points and not 1-2-3 points only....its the most important for buyers.

  • @Sniffowasabi
    @Sniffowasabi Рік тому +3

    "And i'm Anton." Man, your falsetto is the winner.

  • @ibapa888
    @ibapa888 Рік тому +1

    For someone who is upgrading the Kicks is very attractive.

  • @Makeeman
    @Makeeman Рік тому +22

    Another thing I saw... For the corolla cross, you had to remove the cover for the trunk right? For the kicks, you didn't really remove the cover? How is that the corolla cross was better than the Nissan Kicks?

    • @nikytamayo
      @nikytamayo Рік тому

      Wider, with a bigger opening and less intrusive wheel arches, so it was easier to do all that, even if the Kicks technically has more space.

    • @BoyHonda2.0
      @BoyHonda2.0 Рік тому +2

      Mas malaki ang HRV di lang naayos ang lagay inuna Sana ang child anchor seats bago yong ice cube ang haba nyan saka pang mabigat ang HRV na Cargo.. lahat naman nagkasya di lang pinakita ng malapitan kong my space pa.. sa paglagay ng gamit discarte.

    • @nikytamayo
      @nikytamayo Рік тому

      @@BoyHonda2.0 it is around 1-2 cu.ft smaller than the other two. It is a noticeable difference

  • @CT37BN
    @CT37BN Рік тому +5

    Honda for engine/drivetrain, performance/stopping distance, very good price. Only downside is slightly less luggage area.
    2nd for Toyota Corolla Cross and 3rd for Nissan Kicks

  • @gregrodrigueziii8075
    @gregrodrigueziii8075 Рік тому +1

    Just got a 64.1 km/l on kicks today.

  • @chudez
    @chudez Рік тому +7

    the 3-2-1 point system gives each category relatively equal weight regardless of how much better or worse the other cars performed, making the results seem closer that they probably are. the 21 and 20 km/l performance is 66% better than the 12.1 km/l performance but this isn't reflected in the 6-4-2 points. same goes for the other quantitative categories like acceleration and braking.

    • @NandaLinnAung
      @NandaLinnAung Рік тому +1

      i definitely think HR-V could have fared much better.

    • @john_vin
      @john_vin 11 місяців тому +2

      Yep there needs to be weighted tabulation because consumers place more value on particular parameters

  • @SethPinnock
    @SethPinnock Рік тому +4

    Safety in modern cars is a must, however, I am going to rate the safety better in the Nissan as it packs the features that are most practical for not so developed roadways.

    • @franciscojoshua5025
      @franciscojoshua5025 Рік тому

      Is nissan kicks better for bad road conditions?

    • @kenv2667
      @kenv2667 Рік тому

      can you explain po how? I'm still learning and eyeing the Kicks as our first car

    • @olegarioclemente6132
      @olegarioclemente6132 3 місяці тому

      Unfortunately, Nissan has to remove some features of the Nissan intelligent mobility safety feature to meet a price target😧

  • @ar.wiltonmontero
    @ar.wiltonmontero Рік тому +3

    How about maneuveribility on tight streets, i guess its part of us here in Philippines, day to day living, 3 points as max where it can access tight streets, great Comparison Top Gear!

  • @mikofoodmoto8745
    @mikofoodmoto8745 Рік тому +4

    Does driver weight counts on braking and accelerating?

  • @ricg2005
    @ricg2005 Рік тому +2

    Finally. Toe to Toe. This will prosper my friends. Looking forward to other variants/model/brand

  • @ABNHW
    @ABNHW 9 місяців тому

    great comparison ut the yaris cross is a better choice vs the corolla

  • @ejtan5690
    @ejtan5690 Рік тому +3

    Veloz, BR-V, Xpander and Stargazer next comparison please. :)

  • @danesasotomayor5114
    @danesasotomayor5114 Рік тому +6

    You missed to add the paddle shifters in the HRV 😊

    • @TheM5guy
      @TheM5guy Рік тому +2

      CVT transmission 🥱

  • @user-ye1wn3uj7e
    @user-ye1wn3uj7e Рік тому +26

    The Honda looks way better than the other 2.

    • @mar-km8pc
      @mar-km8pc Рік тому +9

      True and more than what was discussed i think the appearance has to have a deal breaker point!

    • @teejaysalgado9819
      @teejaysalgado9819 Рік тому +1

      Yes.. mazda na din yung design ng hrv 😂

    • @ceelee5850
      @ceelee5850 Рік тому +2

      Lol

    • @kindat6407
      @kindat6407 Рік тому +1

      Subjective. Ok sana HR-V kaso yung rear parang si E.T.

    • @conradopradofamily3782
      @conradopradofamily3782 11 місяців тому

      Way better indeed

  • @arthabitan6401
    @arthabitan6401 2 місяці тому +1

    Sana you guys also considered the future cost in maintaining these vehicles after its warranty period expired. Thank you

    • @arthabitan6401
      @arthabitan6401 2 місяці тому

      I think Honda HRV V turbo is much more likeable overall.

    • @TGPMagazine
      @TGPMagazine  2 місяці тому

      Unfortunately, that's hard to test unless we get long term review units. So we can only see the cars as they are when delivered.

  • @tukitox
    @tukitox Рік тому +6

    Why do i get the feeling na the cross was rigged to win? 😢

  • @Jepas8811
    @Jepas8811 Рік тому +1

    One category missing out - maintenance and battery cost. This should have been considered. How much is battery replacement for kicks? 250k?

  • @Colstan
    @Colstan Рік тому +9

    Thanks guys! Hope next would be the Veloz V, Xpander, BRV all their high end models. The last time you did this is you used the Veloz g which is basically an Avanza. Hope you got this idea.

  • @darylp9306
    @darylp9306 9 місяців тому

    Can you add the Seltos for this year's comparo? If ever you decide to shoot a new video like this one.

  • @johnwick860
    @johnwick860 Рік тому +2

    I've seen the Kicks and it is too small... if Nissan brings the Rogue, I will pick that over the other 2, even over the CRV, RAV4 & CX5, best seller sya sa North America market

    • @olegarioclemente6132
      @olegarioclemente6132 3 місяці тому

      Yes as the Rogue , unfortunately in the US not E power. In other countries the Xtrail is Epowered with E4orce

  • @jigsomyoca5377
    @jigsomyoca5377 4 місяці тому

    Would love to see a retest of this with the new corolla cross line up, specficially the base G

  • @bulletblacktop
    @bulletblacktop Рік тому +1

    okay, toyota wins here. by 1 pt. I don't mind the 9.8secs for 80kms.
    2nd is KICKS
    3rd is HRV - bad fc 12.1 km/liter vs 20-21 kpl for both electric/hybrid x-over

  • @joke0419
    @joke0419 Рік тому +2

    Value for money category, ang nanalo yung Nissan Kicks na maraming kulang na features na meron sa Cross at HR-V.
    Sana cheapest nalang yung category mas akma pa. Hahaha

  • @Nics-j6j
    @Nics-j6j 10 місяців тому +1

    always mentioning the kicks being stripped with leather seats etc to say its value for money. how about the non turbo hrv? compared to lowest variants of kicks nd corolla cross

  • @tonyrock5313
    @tonyrock5313 9 місяців тому

    This test is why I'll get the rav4 hybrid.

  • @aldwinjosephempaces57
    @aldwinjosephempaces57 Рік тому +5

    For bigger adults, you can always consider Hyundai Tucson. Hyundai always prioritize comfort, style and space comparing it with RAV 4 or if CRv as a 7 seater Hyundai Santa Fe has the same comfort. 🇵🇭

  • @bocssalcedo8723
    @bocssalcedo8723 Рік тому +3

    im looking at ths 3 ths year but how about NVH (tire & wind) driving above 90kph .. its very helpful if u considerd ths.. thanks

  • @melvinrobles6745
    @melvinrobles6745 11 місяців тому +2

    Include head light visibility in the next review

  • @snc237
    @snc237 Рік тому

    These guys have the charisma of a rock

  • @jaysonsantos2280
    @jaysonsantos2280 Рік тому +2

    still go for honda

  • @clicker125
    @clicker125 Рік тому +3

    aesthetically and engine wise...nissan for me! wala napa english lang ako 🤣✌️

  • @nikehusk3849
    @nikehusk3849 Рік тому +2

    For the acceleration contest, driver weight should have been factored in.

  • @TV-ch4gg
    @TV-ch4gg Рік тому +1

    which car had the most airbags for safety?

  • @BL-zt4es
    @BL-zt4es Рік тому +3

    Corolla cross, hrv 10 month wait. No units available even if we want to buy these vehicles

  • @wtfd00d-t9z
    @wtfd00d-t9z Рік тому +3

    do this more !!!

  • @teejaysalgado9819
    @teejaysalgado9819 Рік тому +3

    Dapat sinama yung cx30 ng mazda.

  • @paulbonifacio901
    @paulbonifacio901 Рік тому +1

    Kicks for me 😁
    I want a terra e-power 😢

  • @jeejay98
    @jeejay98 6 місяців тому

    Don’t you guys have a circuit to test?

  • @mikeybien
    @mikeybien Рік тому +1

    Kicks should lead in fuel economy, Hindi Naman pansamatagal Yu g fuel economy ng cross.

  • @derekgreen9583
    @derekgreen9583 7 місяців тому

    Will you be doing a new comparison with the HRV HEV?

  • @vinci24
    @vinci24 Рік тому

    Anyare sa TG Phils, secluded area nalang test location nila. Collecting TG mags when Sarne is the EIC nito. Maganda yung concept pero yung location.

  • @onemph05
    @onemph05 8 місяців тому

    I would pick HRV S and not the turbo. No EV or Hybrids in our fleet.

  • @tonyrock5313
    @tonyrock5313 9 місяців тому

    Why 80KPH?
    Tests are usually 100kph

  • @garo919
    @garo919 Рік тому +3

    i'd like to get an update on the toyota's android auto issue if ever you guys can test it again or if they mention a fix for it. sounds like a huge deal breaker that i haven't heard from other reviewers since most of them use iphones

  • @mar-km8pc
    @mar-km8pc Рік тому +6

    Design is a make or break. Should be the first category even if it’s subjective lol HRV all the way!

    • @kindat6407
      @kindat6407 Рік тому

      Rear ng HR-V parang si E.T.

  • @asterespero2484
    @asterespero2484 Рік тому +2

    Ford Territory andaming features for only 1.3M for the top of the line

  • @karlgoesfishing.sightseeing

    Thank you guys. The best preview...now i'm thinking of buying the Corolla Cross😊

    • @noski33
      @noski33 9 місяців тому +1

      Did you buy? How is the experience? I’m thinking of getting one 😊

    • @karlgoesfishing.sightseeing
      @karlgoesfishing.sightseeing 9 місяців тому

      @@noski33No😂, i think i'll still to Isuzu MUX

  • @rick137.pickle
    @rick137.pickle Рік тому

    I think the hrv rs does not have the rear cross traffic alert for the Ph spec.

  • @chempobuckz9119
    @chempobuckz9119 Рік тому +3

    How about NVH?

    • @user-ye1wn3uj7e
      @user-ye1wn3uj7e 3 місяці тому

      These are entry level cars for budget conscious buyers so NVH is most likely not high on their list of priorities.

  • @jethercalope6378
    @jethercalope6378 8 місяців тому

    wow i just love the challenges

  • @charlesa1234
    @charlesa1234 5 місяців тому +1

    If the Kicks braked even just 1m shorter than the HR-V, it would be granted 3 points, and 2 pts for the Honda and only 1 point for the Toyota Corolla Cross. The Nissan Kicks would have won this comparo

  • @NandaLinnAung
    @NandaLinnAung Рік тому

    This is really good video and insightful. this video is part of my purchase process of the three. thanks a lot.

  • @andrewsia9440
    @andrewsia9440 Рік тому +3

    You guys are unbelievable until this time you only look at Toyota.

  • @mikelucas2432
    @mikelucas2432 5 місяців тому +2

    I feel nissan is much better then toyota.

  • @wajahata6481
    @wajahata6481 5 місяців тому

    It is not fair to compare hybrid with normal petrol engine for fuel economy. Compare toyita corolla petrol engine with HRV and then make video

  • @raymarobedoza3461
    @raymarobedoza3461 Рік тому +1

    Honda is the King

  • @jovenostan6257
    @jovenostan6257 Рік тому +2

    HRV VTEC TURBO. MY TOP CHOICE!

  • @captainjack6890
    @captainjack6890 Рік тому

    The HRV wins this test on looks alone.

  • @kostantinosadamopoulos5192
    @kostantinosadamopoulos5192 Рік тому +1

    The Toyota corolla cross is a great car, better from the others in everything (you can check it more)
    Plus you can have it hybrid and awd

  • @akombalasau4022
    @akombalasau4022 Рік тому +1

    omg. Calax at balibago complex sta rosa!

  • @stephanietan4389
    @stephanietan4389 Рік тому

    This was a fun review :D

  • @Makeeman
    @Makeeman Рік тому +5

    Hmmm... Good test overall :) one thing to point out. I saw that the FE test used Eco mode on both the HRV and Corolla Cross. The Nissan Kicks was on Normal mode. I think you should do a retest using same modes :) other than that, fairly fair testing! :)

    • @nikytamayo
      @nikytamayo Рік тому +1

      It's a difficult choice. Eco mode on the Kicks uses fairly heavy regen braking, which isn't most efficient on the highway. But in traffic, we did toggle between the modes.
      Yes, I would like a rematch.

    • @cmp10
      @cmp10 Рік тому +1

      Eco/Sports mode (with B-mode) can be efficient in highway drives. That's what I use. You have to get the hang of applying appropriate pressure in the pedal though. It requires a day or two to get used to which I understand that this review might not have.

    • @nikytamayo
      @nikytamayo Рік тому +1

      @@cmp10 true! We did get the hang of it later on. There's a narrow window in the pedal travel in which you can coast without losing momentum. Hope that Nissan makes that window a little wider in the future. One pedal driving is quite convenient, but needs to be a little easier to master.

    • @Makeeman
      @Makeeman Рік тому

      @@cmp10 same here, I actually use Eco + B mode, because you can actually feel the usefulness of e-pedal Step. Eco mode can be useful also in the highway, you just have to maintain at a cruising speed :) Normal is good for coasting but, if you can't coast continuously in a highway, better switch it up to Eco or Sport :) you'd get better FE either way.

    • @Makeeman
      @Makeeman Рік тому

      @@nikytamayo it's pretty easy to get used to :) just 1 or 2 more drives and you'd be using it effortlessly 😁

  • @CaptAmerica45
    @CaptAmerica45 Рік тому +3

    They forgot to include that Nissan kicks epower is excempted for coding... Damn!

    • @noski33
      @noski33 9 місяців тому

      All hybrids now exempt from coding 🤣

    • @CaptAmerica45
      @CaptAmerica45 9 місяців тому

      @@noski33 talaga? Sabi ng suzuki ertiga unfortunately hindi kasama hybrid nila... Correct me ha baka na fake news lang ako.

  • @nerdvlogs5286
    @nerdvlogs5286 Рік тому +2

    I choose Toyota Corolla Cross Gr hybrid

  • @kenv2667
    @kenv2667 Рік тому

    Great review!
    is the fuel efficiency test a combined city and highway drive? I can't believe toyota cross is still better, although just a little.
    Btw, Nissan Kicks VE variants (non-leather seats) not only gives up leather seats and fog lights, but also 360 camera view. right? So VE vs top variants has a hit in safety. and considering Kicks has the worst in safety features between the three, that is a big hit.
    First time I learned that the Toyota Cross is a much safer car, my mind is set for Kicks. But still, budget wise, Toyota Cross is a bit too expensive for me.
    My dilemma now is Kicks Ve or VL.
    Leather seat is better. But my butts gets hot easily (experience in gaming chair even in an aircon room)
    Fog light is not really a concern for me honestly.
    360 camera view is actually the biggest concern for me. So can you clarify that one? is 360 camera view only for VL?

    • @ChelseaandCo.
      @ChelseaandCo. Рік тому

      Yes it is. I'm also debating whether to shell out the extra 200k for the VL's 360 degree camera

    • @gregrodrigueziii8075
      @gregrodrigueziii8075 Рік тому

      Its VL only. Im a VE owner and the driving experience is just great. You know you could be faster than anyone if you need to overtake. handling is very good. Its just a different experience. A friend of mine who drove an EV said, it drives exactly like any EV. super quiet. I personlly think the VE at that price is tough to beat. regarding 360. Never really had an issue without it. I personaly dont find it necessary, but I understand some do want that luxury. But in any case you could always buy a third party 360 cam/dashcam less than 10k which has better quality video wise, If you really need it. wont ruin warranty as it can be done without cutting any wires.

    • @gregrodrigueziii8075
      @gregrodrigueziii8075 Рік тому

      @@ChelseaandCo. you can always buy a third part dashcam, which has a better camera. I dont know if it helps, but today I just got 64.1 km/l on kicks duel efficiency today. yup city drive during heavy traffic, i could get 17 km/l. all of this with a very much fun driving experience with kicks e power system, the handling, e pedal and instant torque is just awesome.

  • @nemesio888
    @nemesio888 Рік тому

    This is such a joy to watch! Keep making these type of comparos. I hope u compared 3 hybrids though😊

  • @marcalvarez2613
    @marcalvarez2613 Рік тому +1

    I like this segment.

    • @novtag9724
      @novtag9724 Рік тому

      Same here, want more of this

  • @jerrytrinidad7484
    @jerrytrinidad7484 Рік тому

    I have to say.. in the fuel economy run.. they never mentioned if any of the vehicles were in certain modes.. like if all of them are on eco or of different modes like sport or just ordinary drive..Like if one is in eco and other in sport.. logically the later would be thirstier.. the most economical, in their test , is the heavier, less powered and bigger displacement? Come on…

  • @jovenostan6257
    @jovenostan6257 Рік тому +4

    Kahit anung gawin Honda is the best!!

  • @jomarmabalot4879
    @jomarmabalot4879 Рік тому

    Hrv pa dn panalo sa lahat, after 5 yrs pag palitan na battery nyan 6 digits dn presyo halos papantay na sa presyo ng 2nd hand car.

  • @venomhnb
    @venomhnb Рік тому

    TCC all the way

  • @piktut
    @piktut Рік тому

    You guys missed the charging ports on the Cross as a plus 😊

  • @gustavogonzo2776
    @gustavogonzo2776 Рік тому

    honda hrv the best

  • @k2blagoy
    @k2blagoy Рік тому

    You should use a Vbox instead on relying on the speedometers

  • @rick137.pickle
    @rick137.pickle Рік тому

    0 to 80 the corolla cross almost 10 secs already

  • @naaahhhx
    @naaahhhx Рік тому

    Liking the seat test

  • @emilg9496
    @emilg9496 Рік тому +1

    Toyotas and Hondas generally are more reliable and easier to service.

  • @broxvlog2228
    @broxvlog2228 Рік тому +4

    Honda HRV 💙

  • @josemiguelcagalingan5092
    @josemiguelcagalingan5092 Рік тому

    Golf bag at the back?

  • @hilaryjonilagan4777
    @hilaryjonilagan4777 Рік тому

    Why only 0-80 not 0-100?

    • @nikytamayo
      @nikytamayo Рік тому +1

      Speed limits.
      Plus 80 is the optimum cruising speed.
      Plus space.

    • @Tleilaxu_Mentat
      @Tleilaxu_Mentat Рік тому

      Yeah, very arbitrary. Speed limit in PH highways is 100 km/h, not 80. In-city speed limit in primary roads is just 60 km/h, so I dunno where they got that 80 figure.

    • @nikytamayo
      @nikytamayo Рік тому

      @@Tleilaxu_Mentat The official speed limit on open roads is 80 km/h. 60 km/h on radial roads. It's only the paid, privately managed tollways that have a 100 km/h speed limit.
      80 km/h is also the speed used in Car of the Year Philippines back in the day as an alternative measure to 0-100 km/h.

    • @Tleilaxu_Mentat
      @Tleilaxu_Mentat Рік тому

      @@nikytamayo You were testing in private roads right? If the roads were long enough and there's no other traffic then I see no reason why you didn't just make a standard 0-100 test. The HR-V also had an unfair advantage in that test since the engine was revved high enough to spool the turbo before starting.

    • @nikytamayo
      @nikytamayo Рік тому +2

      @@Tleilaxu_Mentat That's the rub. The road was not long enough.
      To safely test 0-100 times, you preferably need at least 400 meters of straight road (though a 1 km strip is preferable), to give yourself at least 100m of space if there are issues.
      I have alternate areas that are closed off to traffic, but neither of them were available during this shoot, so we made do with what we had. ;)
      Yes, that would definitely be an advantage, but the HRV's CVT doesn't allow you to torque brake effectively, so it's still a slow take-off, especially when you compare it to the Civic with the exact same powertrain.
      We often debated "take off" techniques in COTY before, but the conclusion was that "gentle" and "aggressive" were highly subjective, so just do what you can without destroying the car.
      Still, noted on that. We were discussing simply measuring passing power (like from 40-60 kmh). But we are still threshing out what is the most useful x-y metric.

  • @tudortiger
    @tudortiger Рік тому

    Nice Giugiaro!

  • @jaypineda3770
    @jaypineda3770 Рік тому +1

    Where is the points for fuel consumption? Lol