Volkswagen e-Golf FL - Future Second Hand Bargain (ENG) - Test Drive and Review
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- Опубліковано 9 тра 2019
- Volkswagen e-Golf 2019 may seem irrelevant new with the introduction of the first purely electric Volkswagen ID.3. However as more electric vehicles start appearing on the second hand market, cars like Volkswagen e-Golf may be an interesting proposition. Why? Watch this to find out.
Starting price: 36 000 euro (without incentives)
As tested: ~40 000 euro
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Yes, for me it would be interesting if you make a video on polish driver culture.
Agreed!
I took an old campervan from Berlin to Gdansk via Stettin, and back through Poznan, around a decade ago. No problems whatsoever with rude drivers -- in fact, if I let somebody overtake, they'd flash their blinkers after having passed me to say "thank you". (The hard-core Techno lovers at the camping grounds were a bit annoying, though...)
Here in Lithuania we have distinctive number plates for EVs, so you easily recognize them.
I heard we'll be getting separate plates for EVs as well.
The same in Latvia. With special blue plates is allowed to drive on bus lanes and free city parking.
Government is installed (will finish a network of chargers outside cities on main ways all around country with maximum distance 50km. But already as there is only 2 on each place, they are a lot of times full and there are queues...
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Oh the joys of driving in Poland. How right you are. I am a Brit having lived and worked in Warsaw for many years and Polish drivers drive me nuts. Your thoughts comments and a UA-cam video would be watched with great interest and humour. Your reviews are great - I look forward to them every week. AR
Good to see you covering more electric cars. Yes, you are right, this could be a bargain second hand city car in a few years time. Love the drone shots on this video - your productions keep getting better & better.
Not a drone. It’s a 360° camera, pretty awesome still.
1:43 and 4:50 - Great shots ! I love it! And yes, where's that f...in' socket !? That should be marked somehow. Thanks Mr Marek!
I'd have one of those used if well kept and cheap. They will be cheap, because the technology is changing so quickly and new electric cars are becoming cheaper than they used to be, with a far better range. If a replacement very high capacity battery pack were available at a sensible price, then people like me would be very interested.
Great observation about the charge point indicator being absent. I love those indicators on my various cars because I can never remember which car has the filler on which side without looking at the fuel gauge and that little arrow. I've learnt to check even when I think I know, because I used to get it wrong far too often.
Sweden, here the McDonalds offer charging ports 😍
Canada only offers free coffee refills 🙁
thank you Marek, you are very interesting to watch. very informative.
Hey Marek, great vid with some strong points and questions! I'm the proud owner of an e-Golf. And it is the best car I have had so far. With some remarks. We have a moving company in Amsterdam which does all things fully electric (if possible) and we haven't bought an combustion engine powered car or truck since 2014. Metrics 2018 98% full electric, 49 tons CO2 reduction. But deep down inside i'm a Volvo fan (240, 940, V70 classic, V70 D5, C70 D4, V60 PHEV) and Sweden is my other home country. "Ock jag talar bara lite Svenska!" But Volvo had no car to match and I think they won't until 2022. In the Netherlands we invest a lot in EV mobility, as the do in Norway. I can charge at home and at work so even with a 200 km range I don't have any range ancienty. Knowing that most of the fuel stations in the Netherlands ar equipped with fast chargers driving a small capacity EV (which the e-Golf now is compared to it's competitors) is no problem for me. And remember it's a Golf!!!! I have driven my car to the Belgium Ardennes multiple time and Paris with no problems.
It's great to see some countries making it easy to adopt new technologies. That said, the Netherlands is a relatively small country, so driving an EV is less of a problem, than for example in Norway.
Portugal, and our EV stations are miserable. We have a few Tesla Superchargers, and from a company called Mobi.e witch is free, but 80% of the charging stations run by that company are offline (because it's free and they don't have resources to repair them and install new ones...)! Ooh and our electricity are the most expensive in europe, so charge at home.....you get the idea!
If only portugal have sunny days to use solar energy ...
Great review
In Lithuania we had special plated for EVs. They had letters EV and a few numbers. These plates also available for rechargeable hybrids.
Charging stations are in cities, also near motorways or main roads. There are a few charging stations near Lidl shops in capital city. I'm not sure if EVs are allowed to use public transport lanes but a few years ago they were allowed.
There are quite a lot charging stations in Estonia.
Marek, in the future plugin vehicles will respond to voice command "Hey car, where is the charging port?" Or if you own the car (rather than just testing it) you will remember where the port is. 🙄
Let's hope that as battery technology improves these E-Golf can be upgraded to have longer range, so finding a used one at a big reduction in price would eventually get you a very good EV. Time will tell. That was sure a quite test drive. 🙂
6:15 and DJ Marek drops a beat 😁
And please do make a video about Polish driving habits.🤩
LMAO
Im from Montenegro, there are no charging ports for electric vehicles here.eitherway there are only about 50 EV and hybrid cars compared to about 200 000 ICE cars.in our country people just recharge them at homes.
I like the arrow idea for the charging port!
Great review! About the technology: I still think the VW or any other car brand engineers have a lot to improve in the matter of “electric cars”. Do You think it is the only way to the future? By the way I’m still in love with V6’s or even V8’s sound, even R4’s with improved exhaust or diesels but I can’t stand silence when I’m driving. Do You?
I love the silence.
This is an interesting observation about the e-Golf. I will definitely keep it in mind. I drove some electric cars, but as far as interior goes (and Depeche Mode startup sound) I still love the e-Golf.
As far as charging infrastructure goes - I live in Slovenia and on AC quick chargers are popping up and aren't a rarity anymore. Otherwise, outside of the capital city there is a problem. It is still preferred if you cater to your charging problem yourself and install a wall box, except of course you live in an apartment. In my city (small town actually) they talk about installing five chargers this year and I've yet to see any work done. Also, they most likely won't be fast chargers so Type-2, but when they do get installed I bet we'll see quite a few more electric cars around.
Also, YES PLEASE - do a video about polish drivers :D
Switzerland here. Tesla infrastructure is absolutely great west of Budapest. Haven't tried driving to Poland yet.
Hi from the UK. This is the first video of yours that I have seen. I really enjoyed it. I am hoping to get a second-hand eGolf this year (I can't afford any of the new EVs of this size that are available at the moment), so your review is very relevant to me.
I've subscribed and look forward to more reviews from now on.
Thanks for the feedback and subscribing! There will be more EVs in the months to come, and I'm sure I will be touching upon 2nd hand market and reliability issues in these cars as well.
@@MarekDrives That's great news Marek. I really look forward to them in the months to come. Thanks again. Phil
in turkey, there is no infrascructre at all, it is very stupid idea to drive a electricity charged car in turkey
Regen is always applied before brakes kicks in. The strength is for a driver's convenience. The most efficient movement is in neutral actually because then you do not use energy reconversion.
In Lithuania Charging is fine. Here we still have free fast Charging stations along main roads every 50 km. Even if one is out of order, you can drive to the next. As there are only ~1000 evs, a charging stations are not occupied even considering there only is one at a site
I have seen one review of e-golf like a year ago, where the reviewer suggested the same thing. So it got me thinking. It's like in an ICE. You release the throttle, and the consumption goes to zero. You then brake at the last second and thereby save on fuel. I guess it's the same here. But not everyone drives like that. For example, I go downhill when I go home from work so I put in third gear and coast. Today there was the same car behind me (golf VII :D), and it was always very close to me. When I sped up, the distance became larger, and then he'd catch up with me. That means he was ACCELERATING DOWNHILL!!! :D
Tell me Mr. Marek, where do you recommend having breakfast at 4 am in Warsaw. As usual, quality video!
Home :)
Marek Drives Let me know if you ever might need help with making videos in or around Warsaw, I live in Józefosław and I've been a fan of your work before even I relocated to Poland.
LIve in Australia and have been watching you for some time. Would love to watch a video regarding driving in Poland. Regarding EV chargers in Australia - we're getting there....slowly. We don't get the e-Golf (or Golf GTE) here but as a big Golf fan (we're on our 7th) we would definitely get it instead of our current TSI.
Will do :) I the next few weeks I'm planning a road trip video, which will be perfect to get a sample of Polish drivers behaving... the way they consider normal.
Which EVs do you get in Australia? Not that there are many. I assume Tesla. What about new Hyundai/KIA EVs?
I have one of these (2016 SE, 24 kwh) that I bought at the end of the three-year lease.
2:39 -- It took me about a year to discover this but you can toggle between coast and recuperation by pulling _back_ on the gear lever and releasing it. This makes it easy to coast most of the time and toggle on B model to slow down, rather than braking. When you have B mode on, you are almost in a one-pedal mode. 6:38 -- I don't understand why you would take cables, don't the charging stations over there provide them? 6:41 -- the air compressor and tire kit are supposed to be stashed in the gap you can see on the right side of the boot.
Depends on the infrastructure in a given country. Majority of Type 2 chargers in Warsaw just have a socket you need to plug your own cable in. Similarly some of the shopping malls offer dedicated EV parking spaces with just a 230V socket, so you need your own cable. Usually only the paid chargers include a combo with all 3 cables (Type 2, ChaDeMo and CCS). If you decide to take the car somewhere further like for a weekend trip (I know it's not made for that) then you definitely want to carry the cables just in case.
hm in Tg-Mures is only 1charge ,and we have 80000 diesel and 70000 gasoline cars Romania..
Czechia: EVs are about to get distinctive plates, which allows them to park for free in Prague, they will also be entitled to drive on motorways without the vignette (which costs about 60€/year) and they are exempted from company car tay (there is no private car tax in Czech republic). I drive a petrol car so i don´t know wheter its sufficient, but in shopping centers there are ussually some chargers, in Prague at least, however not many chargers in streets. Since the highway vignete is cheap and the road tax is applied for company cars only, the sole interesting benefit is the free parking.
Hello, cungratulations for your great reviews!
I live in Lisbon PORTUGAL and own 2 EV cars. A 2013, 22kw Zoe and a 2014 fiat 500e, for about 2 years.
I buy bouth my cars in the used car market, and 90% off the time i charged them in our MOBI.E street chargers, witch sow far, are free to use!!!
And we have about 250 charges around the city. Butt some off them don't work :(
Aniway, me and my wife are very happy, since we change ouwer old diesel cars for used, electric cars.
Marek, on the battery indicator the cable is on the right which indicate that the plug for charging is on the right. The arrow is just redundant...
But no. You'll find the same icon on the Passat GTE, which has the charging socket behind the grill.
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Same thing with Nissan LEAF
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I live in the suburban area of SE Pennsylvania U.S and charging stations here are established with each station being at reasonable distance from each other. For the VW e-Golf, it caught my eye as it just "a car" that could fit in my daily driving lifestyle but I'm still on the fence here as VW here in the US have a bad reputation for reliability and I need to wire/install a dryer plug somewhere on my house.
Right, you guys have 120V grid, which makes charging an EV at home an exercise in futility. Interesting observation about quality problems. Was it always like that or has the perception of the brand changed after dieselgate? AFAIK US spec Passat is made in the US, and it's completely different from what we get in Europe. Atlas is made specifically for markets like the US and Middle East, so again we can't compare it to Euro spec cars. I don't know about Tiguan, because Mk1 tends to be quite reliable.
@@MarekDrives Very nice videos!
In the USA before building a VW factory in the Chattanooga, USA most vehicles were built at the factory in Mexico City with some exceptions being brought from Europe. The most notoriously unreliable used to be VW Bora or Jetta - a sedan/saloon built on the same platform with Golf with 2 L engine in the years 1997 to 2003. However VW Atlas has very good reputation today. The problem comes with genuine VW parts which are very expensive in the USA.
I still own a 1.8 L turbo VW Passat 2002 Station wagon/estate built in Germany. If employing independent mechanics and using aftermarket parts one can be happy with a VW in the USA.
Used egolf in Kentucky and Tennessee go for $11-15,000 USD.
In Spain the infrastructure is growing, in Madrid there are pretty much all over city center
Any bonuses/benefits? Free parking, bus lanes, etc.?
Whoa, what's that snazzy camerawork at 1:50 ?
Haha, your little note at the end is in reference to a problem only an automotive journalist would encounter. At least until electric cars become common rental car offerings.
I was never sure which side the filler cap is in my private cars, even before I started doing this :)
Normaly on a petrol car the side of the pistol on the gas pump showed in the dash indicates on wich side of the car is the fueling port. it is the same on an e-golf, but instead of a pistol it is an electric plug.
No, usually there's an arrow. The pistol is (AFAIR) always on the right side, which coincidently is the correct side for most European models. Most Japanese cars used to have the filler cap on the left side, but the pistol is still on the left. For example this Honda Jazz has the filler cap on the left, there's an arrow indicating that, but the pistol is on the right.
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Does anyone know for sure what colour eGolf is in Marek’s review?
It's (I'm translating from the Polish spec sheet I got with the car) "dark silver metallic".
Serbia - as I know there is only Two in all country. (Both on high way E75(from Hungary to North Macedonia))
Like Poland a few years ago.
5:08 turkey. what is infrastructure ? we never heard of it. :)
Hey sey cok güzel olacak ! :)
I would be interested to see a video about Polish driving habits.
Equally, a VW E-Golf (used) with say 600 km Plus range would be a very interesting car.
You need to do a polish dash cam compilation!!
I don't do dashcams. There are plenty of those, including specifically Polish drivers.
It will be interesting to see how insurance companies treat EVs with aftermarket batteries. Its easy to imagine them using a possible fault with a non-factory battery to not pay out on a battery related accident. So I suppose we will have to wait until certified (EU?) aftermarket battery manufactures or service centres become a thing.
I don't want to sound like more disgruntled, than I usually sound, but my experience with insurance companies ranges from neutral to bad. I have no doubt they will find a way to make your claim a trip to hell and back :)
I think without battery thermo management, this will not be the future. The heat build up on long trips and charging while on the trip, battery troubles.
I think the sweet spot for EV range would be 500km per charge; people are used to filling their car with fuel every week or two, not topping the tank off every day.
Perhaps it’s a generational thing? Am I getting old?
Anyway, I’d love an i3 Rex or an eGolf if I could buy an EV and be able to rely on sufficient public fast-chargers throughout Sydney.
I thought REx would make the i3 more usable, but it's really an emergency solution to get you to the nearest charging station, rather than extend your range.
in the usa this will be called volkswagen e-rabbit
It was sold mostly in California as a compliance car with the same name as in Europe - VW eGolf. Some states still provide good tax incentives. So in Colorado you can buy a new one after tax incentives for 18000 USD as shown on youtube channel TFL car.
Hi from Barcelona.
Here in Catalonia the charging station are really good. However in other places of Spain is more difficult, instead of having a Tesla.
Ukraine. Infrastructure almost zero.....Around my 300.000 population city only some 5-6 chargers 3.3 kW (imagine 21 kWh Leaf need 7 hours from 0 to 100 percent), price for charging there about triple compare to same charging at home.
Oi puff daddy! Take your sunny glasses. You can't be cool in an electric golf 😄
Hey I like those sunglasses 😎
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I live in the UK. The charging infrastructure is growing slowly. But if I were to go on any kind of long distance journey, I would NOT use an EV.
Given that charging an EV takes from one hour up to 24 hours plus, to really get the EV market off the ground, we need an EV which is priced at around the same price as the Renault Zoe (currently around £18000 in the UK) with a range of at least 600 miles / 1000km plus from a charge.
As you mention in the video, EVs currently are great for city-centre / round-town and local motoring. Beyond this, you need a vehicle with a petrol or diesel engine.
In Australia public car charging points are rare, even in the major cities of Sydney and Melbourne. Petrol in Australia is relatively cheap and the country is big, even though most people live in 4 major cities and would rarely drive more than 100km per day, which has resulted in politicians largely ignoring EVs. Also, after America, I’d suggest that Australia has the highest climate-change-deniers per capita. We’re way behind most other modern democratic nations when it comes to sustainable energy reliance. Shameful really.
Interesting. We were always taught Australia is one of the countries most affected by the ozone hole. But I get how geographic situation in some countries may discourage adoption of EVs. Poland is about 800-900 km across, and this makes current generation EVs a deal-breaker for most people.
Will sell my e golf and buy second Tesla. Does that speak for itself?????
If charge stations are bad now. Imagine five years time.
one question regarding the charging of the battery - let's say you get home, it's depleted and you plug it in. Will the battery be charged to 100%, or will it leave some capacity to be charged when the ICE starts in the morning to heat up
- knowing German engineering, I'd bet it's loaded to 100% and in the morning the ICE will be burning gas and polluting uselessly.
- this car only restates the fact that German cars are built strictly for Germany. Bigger batteries for bigger range in the city - the prius formula works since 2002, my greatest consumption on an auris hybrid during mixed EasternEuropean driving was 6.3 l/100 km - show me an otto/diesel automatic car from germany that can do that. Why complicate everything? Do you even fathom to realize what replacing the huge golf battery will cost? Too much Frau Merkel, too much for how little car you will have left.
This is not a plug-in hybrid.
what? extra 300 kilograms??? are you kidding me? :)) the auris hybrid has 136 hp and weighs 1380 kgs. Less than a Golf 2.0 tdi? The GTE weighs 1615 kg :))=)) wow, that's lame. Does it also come with a maintenance happy DSG gearbox? Oh, and talking about Eastern European relevance, does the Golf GTE have room for a spare tire? the auris hybrid has.
This is not GTE (hybrid). This is e-Golf (fully electric). And it doesn't have a gearbox as such.
Yesterday I "charged" my Skoda Superb Diesel. It took me 2 minutes and my range is +1200km. And when I'm not driving there is no pollution. When an EV is not driving, there is pollution from the nuclear, gas or trash burning electricity power plant. When we get more EV's, the electricity price will rise due to the higher demand, and this way my grandma will pay extra even without a car.
Because oil production and transport are clean like morning dew.
@@MarekDrives nothing as beautiful as a truck loaded with fresh refined diesel oil in the morning dew :-) just joking here
@Patrick. How do you know electricity price will rise ? For tesla S drivers perpective, electricity is free ... Just kidding.
@@porsche911235 did you ever hear about the free market? Demand, offer and price? Besides, on fossil fuels we pay excise. Not on electricity, once EV's become common the government will add excise to the electricity price. Just to compensate less excise income from fossil fuels. Do you really believe in free electricity?
@Patrick Van Reusel. Speculating is not knowing. Electric prices are all ready raising because of public investment production and private shareholders bonuses. That’s a fact. Gouvernements taxes on electricity for EV ... that’s not a fact
About free tesla electricity, I was being sarcastic, it’s outrageous that tesla’s owners can drive for free and at the same time, your grandma’s retirement pension is going down