And honestly its not really worth the time to try and direct people. I think the INTJ is much better off just being an influencer that leads by example instead of trying to control everyone
@@GhostofJung yeah I agree, that's how I'm trying to lead my path in life ... I don't wanna lead anyways... I don't want anybody bothering me or anything.. I only like talking to pple I can learn from and usually keep the conversation limited to the topic they have more experience then I ... What I meant to say is , if I convey information / throw out a idea I usually have hard time putting into words .. so I tend to use analogys or make up a story that connects to the idea I'm trying to express ... people will not listen to the message or point I'm saying and get mad because of my voice of tone or bring up a point unrelated to the Information I was trying to convey For example, I was reading the ingredients in baby formula... explaining that it's made of corn syrup and artificial chemicals and explaining how the manufacturers motives are being profitable and not your health and knowing profit is their goal. Using that principle you can see the following results that would lead to using man made chemicals that are designed for high shelf life and low cost to produce instead of using natural real food I was talking about how this mainly began during WW2 when demand for food increased beyond the labor supply was available to produce the food ... Basically I'm saying how obvious the connections are and I specifically don't need to get into details because you can Google the specifics.. I tell pple to look at the connection and these connections are everywhere .... I'm not crazy But pple will not listen to things I say ... and when I was talking about this concept ... the reply I got was. Well not all moms cam breast feed Watch your privilege Do you think your better then me AND IM LIKE WHY is it everytime I say information A.... or 1 plus 1is 2. Pple will attack me for shit I wasn't even thinking about
@@GhostofJung my problem is I don't have a goal or purpose .... if school was free I'd learn everything..... I'm trying to think of what to do , what career I feel fulfilled and not bored and can maximize myself and stay interested So I'm trying to see what other intjs do, while Listening to as much INTJ Anecdotal personal stories and points of view... Because up until I learned about MB TI and this personality type I really thought I was crazy ... or something wrong .... Like why I look at most pple and seriously think they are idiots , or just don't think At all and will do things for feelings or shirt term gratification. .. I hate when people with a title , think because they have a position of authority their words or way is infallible and I'm like no. Your still a idiot with a piece of paper .... your credentials mean nothing to me , it only tells me your thoughts came from group think and you sat in class for x years and regurgitated well the crap your saying and you don't understand what your saying nor have expanded on the idea / topic with your own interpretation I always ask why , then I figure out my how ... I can't stop wondering how and what things mean ... I still think I'm crazy
I prefer to use “make hypothesis” rather than “make predictions”. I test my hypothesis overtime... people around me call them predictions then I say, “You didn’t see that coming? Really...” Never used drugs... a girl offered me in high school and when I said, “No thanks,” she asked why. I told her I can see where that leads and it’s not pretty.
there were times, if i could get access to drugs i would normally i wont i dont think psychedelics or marijuana as harmful drugs - it depends on the amount and other factors
Ive gotten the same thing... “you must have lived in a past time”. My nephew said the other day, “Auntie DeeDee... you seemed to live in the 20s.” That was totally out of nowhere and caught me off guard. 😆 The things is... I believe Ni is a timeless function and is required to be timeless in order to stay in the meta of seeing structures, systems, and patterns (behavioral, evolutionary, systematic, etc) across times. If it wasn’t timeless it wouldn’t be able to span and scan as far and wide in order to project into the future. I see myself as moving parallel across many different timelines and taking them in all at the same time. Also, let’s be real... time is the enemy to INTJs.
With Se in 4th, Ni can be quite optimistic and idealistic most of the time which is why when “life happens to me” it can be quite jarring (like jumping in a cold lake). Balancing and working on Se can help ground me more so I don’t get those big swings between idealism and reality resulting in nihilistic thinking.
This is 100% so spot on everything is so true .. and i gave up telling pple anything because they just wanna argue or dismiss me
And honestly its not really worth the time to try and direct people. I think the INTJ is much better off just being an influencer that leads by example instead of trying to control everyone
@@GhostofJung yeah I agree, that's how I'm trying to lead my path in life ... I don't wanna lead anyways... I don't want anybody bothering me or anything.. I only like talking to pple I can learn from and usually keep the conversation limited to the topic they have more experience then I ...
What I meant to say is , if I convey information / throw out a idea I usually have hard time putting into words .. so I tend to use analogys or make up a story that connects to the idea I'm trying to express ... people will not listen to the message or point I'm saying and get mad because of my voice of tone or bring up a point unrelated to the Information I was trying to convey
For example, I was reading the ingredients in baby formula... explaining that it's made of corn syrup and artificial chemicals and explaining how the manufacturers motives are being profitable and not your health and knowing profit is their goal. Using that principle you can see the following results that would lead to using man made chemicals that are designed for high shelf life and low cost to produce instead of using natural real food
I was talking about how this mainly began during WW2 when demand for food increased beyond the labor supply was available to produce the food ...
Basically I'm saying how obvious the connections are and I specifically don't need to get into details because you can Google the specifics.. I tell pple to look at the connection and these connections are everywhere .... I'm not crazy
But pple will not listen to things I say ... and when I was talking about this concept ... the reply I got was.
Well not all moms cam breast feed
Watch your privilege
Do you think your better then me
AND IM LIKE WHY is it everytime I say information A.... or 1 plus 1is 2. Pple will attack me for shit I wasn't even thinking about
@@GhostofJung my problem is I don't have a goal or purpose .... if school was free I'd learn everything..... I'm trying to think of what to do , what career I feel fulfilled and not bored and can maximize myself and stay interested
So I'm trying to see what other intjs do, while Listening to as much INTJ Anecdotal personal stories and points of view... Because up until I learned about MB TI and this personality type I really thought I was crazy ... or something wrong ....
Like why I look at most pple and seriously think they are idiots , or just don't think At all and will do things for feelings or shirt term gratification.
.. I hate when people with a title , think because they have a position of authority their words or way is infallible and I'm like no. Your still a idiot with a piece of paper .... your credentials mean nothing to me , it only tells me your thoughts came from group think and you sat in class for x years and regurgitated well the crap your saying and you don't understand what your saying nor have expanded on the idea / topic with your own interpretation
I always ask why , then I figure out my how ... I can't stop wondering how and what things mean ... I still think I'm crazy
I prefer to use “make hypothesis” rather than “make predictions”. I test my hypothesis overtime... people around me call them predictions then I say, “You didn’t see that coming? Really...” Never used drugs... a girl offered me in high school and when I said, “No thanks,” she asked why. I told her I can see where that leads and it’s not pretty.
there were times, if i could get access to drugs i would
normally i wont
i dont think psychedelics or marijuana as harmful drugs - it depends on the amount and other factors
Love that name letters style. Very INTJ.
Thank you! Glad you noticed...that style really speaks to me!
Ive gotten the same thing... “you must have lived in a past time”. My nephew said the other day, “Auntie DeeDee... you seemed to live in the 20s.” That was totally out of nowhere and caught me off guard. 😆
The things is... I believe Ni is a timeless function and is required to be timeless in order to stay in the meta of seeing structures, systems, and patterns (behavioral, evolutionary, systematic, etc) across times. If it wasn’t timeless it wouldn’t be able to span and scan as far and wide in order to project into the future. I see myself as moving parallel across many different timelines and taking them in all at the same time.
Also, let’s be real... time is the enemy to INTJs.
HAHA, time is the enemy and also we try to live outside of it. I'm glad your nephew recognizes this "beyond time" quality within you 😁
With Se in 4th, Ni can be quite optimistic and idealistic most of the time which is why when “life happens to me” it can be quite jarring (like jumping in a cold lake). Balancing and working on Se can help ground me more so I don’t get those big swings between idealism and reality resulting in nihilistic thinking.
Very interesting and insightful. 👌
Oh yeah
17:56 Hope suffers the harsh verdicts of experience.
you can always prove if those "nothing matter types" are real when you see how they react to you saying they are wrong lol
I like Gabriel’s logic... if you kill someone then you should be killed... no? That’s not right? 😂 Well, makes sense.
That’s too simple and easy.
There are many reasons to kill someone…