Jesus, I can’t believe how many times the judge had to repeat herself to get lawyers to listen to her orders. Complete lack of respect for her and the court smh.
He needed to be dismissed and probably be suspended from practicing for a time. That wild that a lawyer who knows how the work would come into the court and obviously disrespect her like that .she work hard for the spot amd he has ruined his chances to one day getting there too
The judge wasn’t earning respect. This judge wasn’t being fair with requests that are reasonable about mentioning someone’s children. She didn’t like it. Why is it not okay for him not to like it either ? Completely reasonable
@catzee4720 That wasn’t what this was about. The primary defence lawyer was fairly savvy, and whether or not he respected the judge wouldn’t have mattered here. He had simply spotted that the judge was emotionally off guard for a moment, and was attempting to obtain an outburst which would have ruined the legitimacy of the trial. He nearly succeeded.
Thank you for mentioning that, I was thinking the very same thing...."no one has had to endure what the defense has" ARE YOU SERIOUS ??? THESE PEOPLES FAMILY MEMBERS ARE DEAD !!!!! HOW DARE YOU TRY TO EQUATE LISTENING TO FAMILY MEMBERS THAT ARE IN FOREVER PAIN , TALK ABOUT THAT PAIN AND YOU HAVE THE GALL TO SAY "NO ONE IN THIS COURTROOM HAS HAD TO ENDURE WHAT THE DEFENSE HAS HAD TO ENDURE" NOTHING COULD BE FURTHER FROM THE TRUTH !!!! SHAME ON YOU !!!
He is going to lodge a complaint about the judge allowing threats to go unremarked in the courtroom. The judge will get scolded for that and learn from it. She's a smart and conscientious judge.
@@annabellelee4535 It was an outburst during an impact statement. That's not actionable. This judge will no be scolded, reprimanded or anything... But two of those defense lawyers should be censured and suspended from law immediately after the trial.
She should have held the scumbag in contempt and thrown him in jail. The entire defense team should be disbarred and no decent human being should ever speak to them or do any business with them. They should be outcasts from society.
@@nicolefunetes5969 The defense team of a mass murderer which has made a mockery of the entire trial threw the judge's children under the bus and when she got rightfully offended and wanted them to sit down, they disregarded her. It's her court she holds the power. And just based off your profile picture, you look like the hag to me.
@@nicolefunetes5969 Im not sure if you’re being sarcastic or not but I’m pretty sure the only insane ones in this case are that murderer’s defense attorneys and the people defending them
@@nicolefunetes5969 yeah, it’s so easy to keep your cool when you’re a mother whose children are being brought into an already awful and stressful cesspool of disrespect of even more children that were murdered in a school setting. y’all sit from the comfort of your home watching this, you nor i could ever know what these people are feeling and how they are grieving in this situation. it’s so easy to judge people when you’ve never been in their shoes.
If lawyers carried on like this here in Australia they'd be disbarred in a heart beat and rightly so. You can't show disrespect to a judge no matter what you feel or think, especially as a lawyer. this is a sign of the times we live in, the lack of respect is astounding here
@@Tolstoy111 yes they’re public defenders and they’re fighting WAY too hard for someone who doesn’t have a case! Their position is traditional, ceremonial, dare I say CHECKLIST *AT BEST*
The judge was the one out of line. The defense had to listen to the witnesses invoking their children and the judge didn't notice or care, yet the minute her own children get invoked she flips out. She's a fucking hypocrite.
I can't believe such disgusting statement is said in the court. Even worse, this guy doesn't even look apologetic when he said that. He arrogantly and disgustingly said this in front of the victims.
That is not at all what my conclusions would be based on this short vid. And Neither did a top Floriday Court after analyzing the whole court case, and in response reprimanded the judge, who in my opinion is clearly out of line with her "threatening her children" which the lawyer clearly didn't. Filing from the supreme court with factual findings: fingfx.thomsonreuters.com/gfx/legaldocs/klvyzkzyxpg/07242023florida_parkland_report.pdf
Every one of these defense lawyers needs to be disbarred. Flipping the bird at the Court and laughing with the killer and this comment about “no one has to endure what this defense has to endure” disgusting. Thank you to the judge for protecting the victims.
@@kulaishimunyakayanza5938 Umm, they had weeks in trial, you did not see anything here. And if you watch all the other videos you will see her calmly dealing with a lot of nonsense. By this day of the trial she was long past fed up.
I love how this judge rules her courtroom. All the jerks trying to get pushy in her courtroom. The judge should have ordered those lawyers into custody overnight for contempt. The judge was patient and in no way contemptuous. It's plain to see by anybody with integrity, the attorneys were beyond disrespectful.
Unprofessional public defence is standard. Our justice system is a sham. That is, most defendants have no access to compitant council! The judge here is also extremely unprofessional herself. Her children were not threatened, it was only a comparison regarding her own uncalled for comment of the defence attorneys children.
@@yeeyee52 Yeah it was a dumb move on his part AS I MENTIONED in my statement if you actually bothered to read it in whole. His conduct was VERY nout of line. However she also brought up his children first and is full of it. It was a bad move largely because she has final authority in the courtroom as she is the JUDGE. She should not be! Terrible unprofessional defence overall but also terrible unprofessional and ABUSIVE judge here, allowing threats to be made by victim's family, referencing the defences attorneys. The first defence attorney seen speaking in this clip was more then reasonable however. The Secund was another story and should be removed, as frankly should the judge herself, not that the latter will happen...
See how these defense attorneys are behaving. This is what is like to be in a narcissistic relationship. It is all about them and they continual divert the attention off of the problem and gaslight you to get you to focus on anything else.
These defense lawyers are disgusting. They act like they are so offended by people who lost their own children and loved ones speaking their truth. The truth hurts and when you are defending their loved one’s killer, you are subject to hear the hurt that these innocent families are going through. God bless the victims and their families.
I think it's the threats that are bothering the lawyers, you really don't want violence towards the lawyers and their families. Even you can't want to see children threatened.
@@annabellelee4535 the families didn’t want that. They wanted them to put themselves in the shoes the victims and families have walked in all these years. These families have been hurting for years only to get the sentencing that was less than expected and the defense should have compassion for that. Their hurt feelings don’t hold a fraction to the horrendous grief that their client caused. The talkback from the defense was completely unnecessary and unwarranted.
In this case, the defense lawyers have been putting middle fingers up and laughing and joking in front of grieving families. Their behavior is unnecessary.
@@bwd527 I didn’t know he had a rap song. This trial keeps getting more bizarre by the day. I’m going to try and look up his video. Thanks for letting me know about it.
@@joepappas4968 they are shaming the lawyers with the karma of what could happen now to their own families which is the truth. They have set themselves up for some bad experiences especially if they aren’t sorry.
The defense did a fantastic job, they all will get an upgrade, the partial drama barbydoll judge however will never be put on an case like this again, she made mistake after mistake, no wonder nobody takes her serious.
There's a'lot to unpack here, but I'm in shock. For that "" defense attorney "" to stand up there in front of the families of the people his client murdered in cold blood and got enjoyment from doing it and to say " No one in this court room has had to endure what we've had to endure " is disgusting. As far as I'm concerned he should have been held in contempt of the court right then and there then disbarred after that.
they are the defense lawyersnot the accussed so why would they be the topic of any ofthe statements? Attacking the lawyers' families is definetely not the purpose of a victim impact statement.Also the Judge being offended and claiming that they threatened their kids was not ok. Nobody threatened her kids, the guy was just trying to explain why this is not right and why she should have said something
@@byronsmith3152 What do you think threatening someone's family entails? Children are part of the family. Do you really support threatening children because their parents are doing the job that they are supposed to do?
@@annabellelee4535 The attorney brought up her kids. I do not take that as threatening them, but he brought up her kids. Had he just shut up, then nothing happens. No examples needed to be made but the guy kept persisting. This is not rocket science here. The judge said she did not recall the lawyers kids being threatened, nor was it in the video we are commenting on. So then the attorney brings up her kids to try and prove nothing. That is shear stupidity by the attorney.
@@byronsmith3152 he did not threaten her kids, did he? He only said she would not like it if it was done to her family. That is not a threat. The judge took offence to that and called it a threat. Totally uncalled for, but by doing so she actually proved his point.
DId you know that Elizabeth Scherer isn´t a judge anymore because the Florida Judicial Qualifications Commission found that Scherer violated many rules governing judicial conduct during Cruz's trial?
That is not at all what my conclusions would be based on this short vid. And Neither did a top Floriday Court after analyzing the whole court case, and in response reprimanded the judge, who in my opinion is clearly out of line with her "threatening her children" which the lawyer clearly didn't. Filing from the supreme court with factual findings: fingfx.thomsonreuters.com/gfx/legaldocs/klvyzkzyxpg/07242023florida_parkland_report.pdf
Not their ego, their children. 2 witnesses mentioned their children, and they shouldn't have had to object for the judge to clamp down on the personal attacks
@@abdallaha92 Yeah I don't know why that's controversial for some people. I know the judge and defense have had a lot of conflict but she still needs to be professional and shut down statements like "I hope your kids die".
@@worsethanjoerogan8061 In fairness, no one said "I hope your kids die", but a comment that basically accused them of enabling the next school shooter did mention their kids and was completely out of line. When the Florida Association of Criminal Defense Lawyers blasts you, you've gone far beyond regular courtroom issues
The defense attorneys are taking away focus on the victim's families. What is the matter with these attorneys? So disgusting how they are disrespecting the deceased victims, the families, the judge, the court, and the law.
the defense actually didnt do anything wrong here. they asked that their kids be kept out of the impact statements... which it technically isnt even supposed to suggest or be directed at the defendant... let alone the defense team and their kids. the defense was actually in the right here... the judge let her emotion get ahead of her again... which alot of people are trying to point out... its bad for court cases to have a judge that cannot think impartially...because that is what causes mistrials. Those families were disrespecting the jury/ the defense team/ and the defenses kids... thats all a big no no. ask any lawyer. so many reasons why thats not good...
@@picklesdill9138 Then give me an example, ANY example when it's O.K. to be "flipping the bird" at the court or Laughing during a case WITH YOUR FOUND-GUITLY-OF-THE-MASSACRE CLIENT and any other histrionics coming from the defense table.
@@yassirr8538 im not defending the REST of the trial... Im talking about THIS specific moment... lets get that VERY clear... I dont have to like how the defense acted... I dont have to agree with the verdict... I dont LIKE CRUZ... and i think he got the wrong sentence... BUT the judge was WRONG here with how she handled THIS. thats what this video is about, thats what I addressed with my comment. dont put words in my mouth or twist what I said.
@@yassirr8538 what the judge did here... allowing the impact statements to disrespect the jury, and the defense team... is wrong. it can actually have bad impacts on future jurors...and it can in the future if she chooses to act this way again possibly put a murderer back on the street with a mistrial... its wrong. and its wrong for a reason.
@@picklesdill9138 In other words, the families giving their impact statements are STILL to be muzzled and not free to express how they are impacted by the sentence the jury elected? I thought this was now was THEIR moment to verbalize how they have been victimized by the defenses actions, the jury's sentence, specific testimony's and myriad other actions?
@@annabellelee4535 I never heard anyone issue a threat. Threats are not okay not sure I ever heard a threat, nor did anyone threaten the judge's kids. The judge also went unhinged at the defense attorneys and accused them of doing the same thing the defense attorneys accused the family members of. Just an unhinged courtroom altogether.
@@lorae7 I considered the victim statement to be threatening the defense attorneys and their families. There was no threat to the judge's family and her reaction thinking there was proves that the defense was right to be concerned. I think the judge lost control of the courtroom and forgot that the defense are just doing their jobs.
@@annabellelee4535 I agree the judge actually proved the defense attorney's point, however, that said, I never heard anyone threaten anybodies kids. But the defense attorneys have also made some grave errors as well in conduct. The whole thing seems to be a mess. The only one who has it good - is the murderer as he got everything he wanted.
@@lorae7 So basically, Mr. Schachter made an undeserving comment about the defense condoning the killings and that this is what they teach their kids, while Mrs. Oliver yelled that karma would get them and that they'd have to worry about their kids going to school (I think she meant that they helped to create an atmosphere that emboldened the next potential school shooters and that they'd have to worry about the same thing happening now). In both cases the judge should have stepped in.
I bet the judge was holding this all in throughout the trial and she finally got to put the defence in their place. Also Mr Weeks trying to interrupt the judge is so rude.
That is not at all what my conclusions would be based on this short vid. And Neither did a top Floriday Court after analyzing the whole court case, and in response reprimanded the judge, who in my opinion is clearly out of line with her "threatening her children" which the lawyer clearly didn't. Filing from the supreme court with factual findings: fingfx.thomsonreuters.com/gfx/legaldocs/klvyzkzyxpg/07242023florida_parkland_report.pdf
@@Foxtrotechogolfcharlie Me, too. Not on any moral grounds, though. I feel the death penalty is fiscally irresponsible. The automatic appeals process is wastefully expensive, but doesn't cover appropriate rates for PD's. Someone sentenced to death is more likely to die in prison, not resulting from whatever manner a particular state chooses to take the life of those that take lives.
@@Foxtrotechogolfcharlie Excellent point! I can't believe I stone forgot that one. He can be of use, for once, and not just a burden upon the good taxpayers of Florida. Thanx!
@@annabellelee4535 I don't think Florida allots bonuses to public defenders, however I could be mistaken. That would make sense if they paid their public defenders something approaching competitive salary.
The defense did a fantastic job, they all will get an upgrade, the partial drama barbydoll judge however will never be put on an case like this again, she made mistake after mistake, no wonder nobody takes her serious.
Mindblowing how stupid and out of touch lawyers can be, for them to complain amd make a fuss about every little remark that they didn‘t like to hear in a trial that is supposed get justice for murdered children and the pain and horror their families have suffered for years….these lawyers are disgusting!
The defense did a fantastic job, they all will get an upgrade, the partial drama barbydoll judge however will never be put on an case like this again, she made mistake after mistake, no wonder nobody takes her serious.
@@Nonowness being disrespectful, childish and unprofessional isn't an upgrade. Your scale ⚖️ of upgrade is telling. Addressing the judge as a Barbie doll speaks volumes of your person regardless of the mistakes she made. She didn't get to that point in her carrier by playing dress up.
@@ChukwubuDike Well she is a barby doll and extremely unprofessional, even hugging the prosecution showed how partial she was from th get go. She is also very much criticised by other high profile experts, who say Sherer did a bad unprofessional jobYou will see, she will never ever be put on a high profile case like this, she did to many mistakes and half of the time she had to ask the prosecution what to do. The defense however WON the case, despite it is extremely difficult to save a mass muderes live, but they were able to convince the jury that life is the right option. This is why they get an UPGRADE! Inteligent people understand the logic behind this, you obviously not.
@@Nonownessdid you even watch the thing? Amazing job? Flipping their middle finger, comparing the family's behavior to the capital insurrection etc... that's not ' amazing'. The US is the one and only developed country that gets it right - the death penalty must remain. Comparing to what the defendant in this case did to his victims, injecting him with poison is nothing but merciful and lenient. The same could be said about Jeffrey Dahmer- if winsconsin has the death penalty he deserved it.
@@ChukwubuDike That is not at all what my conclusions would be based on this short vid. And Neither did a top Floriday Court after analyzing the whole court case, and in response reprimanded the judge, who in my opinion is clearly out of line with her "threatening her children" which the lawyer clearly didn't. Filing from the supreme court with factual findings: fingfx.thomsonreuters.com/gfx/legaldocs/klvyzkzyxpg/07242023florida_parkland_report.pdf
Whatever some defense lawyers feel they had to sit through, is not even 0.01% of the horror that the families had to endure. Suck it up and move on defense team.
@@ImDirteDan this was a sentencing trial and the defense won the case. There cannot be a mistrial. If he had gotten death, then there would be a mistrial.
The Parkland shooter/murderer has defense attorneys that are perfect for him -- whiners that disrespect the deceased loved ones, victims and judge. Can the judge throw these petty attorneys out?
They are complete a##holes. Apparently everything's a big joke to them. This is a courtroom not a damn trailer with beer buddies passing around the pot 🤨
The defense did a fantastic job, they all will get an upgrade, the partial drama barbydoll judge however will never be put on an case like this again, she made mistake after mistake, no wonder nobody takes her serious.
@@kd5you1 The defendant pled guilty so there was no trial to establish guilt, what the trial was about was the death penalty as punishment. The defense won the trial obviously. He didn't get the death penalty, now did he? Pay more attention next time.
@Account Name How would you judge a trial in that the entire planet knows the guy is guilty and the defense acting like the victims' families are too angry.
@@PianoUniverse Nobody threatened the defenses' kids. He literally was acting like the victims' families are putting too much emphasis on his client's guilt. They are trying to disrupt the victim impact statements because the parents are so angry with Nicholas Cruz. Well, this is a sentencing, and the parents of the murdered children have every right to express their anger and grief.
Is she prevented from issuing the defense attorney (who kept standing and kept talking repeatedly after he'd been instructed to sit down) a contempt citation?
Thank goodness this judge is resigning. A former prosecutor herself, she hugged the prosecuting attorneys after the trial, but railed against the defense attorneys whenever she had a chance. She's supposed to at least appear to be nonpartisan and fair. She failed miserably.
@@7777Martes Yes good, but also bad, she did succeed in allowing the defence to convince 3 of the 12 jurors deliberating to want life without parole, instead of death penalty, which is what Nicholas wanted, so a win for us all that he didn't get his way and will now rot in jail as someone's b*tch until his dying day👌
@@MisterCobana89 Looking at your recent comments that's all you seem to care about🤨 Yes sherer resigned. Two of the defence attorneys were also fined and reprimanded for disrespectful & unprofessional conduct
The defense did a fantastic job, they all will get an upgrade, the partial drama barbydoll judge however will never be put on an case like this again, she made mistake after mistake, no wonder nobody takes her serious.
It would’ve never happened if the public defenders didn’t act like children. Those POS public defenders paid for by the Florida tax payers will never have their own practice 😂 Most of the attorneys are in their 40s or early 50s. The judge is a young beautiful Judge and they thought they would get away with continually asking for a mistrial or rest their case when they knew damn well they weren’t going to call more witnesses.
Wow. These attorneys are absolutely awful at their jobs. They are lucky the judge even let them interrupt her that many times without holding them in contempt. It's sad their main argument seems to be playing the victim card. For the clients sake I hope they find some better representation.
The defense did a fantastic job, they all will get an upgrade, the partial drama barbydoll judge however will never be put on an case like this again, she made mistake after mistake, no wonder nobody takes her serious.
@@annabellelee4535 Cupcake? Bummer you can't actually form an intelligent comment without name calling. Don't ever go to law school. The name calling, bad attitude, ego and staggering ineptitude with the English language will have you kicked out on the first day. I highly recommend reading something every once in a while so you can expand your vocabulary and form arguments in an intelligent, sophisticated way without the need to resort to name calling.
The judge has every right to shut down such disrespectful attorneys. If you listen to the families impact statements, there was no threat made or, even insinuated, to the defense’s children. The defense has made a mockery of this trial and has been incredibly disrespectful. The families have every right to have their voices heard. For them, they don’t have children to defend because their children are DEAD. Shame on people for supporting the defense team. This was the families time to be heard.
The defense did a fantastic job, they all will get an upgrade, the partial drama barbydoll judge however will never be put on an case like this again, she made mistake after mistake, no wonder nobody takes her serious.
The defense lawyers seems like they laugh and spit foods out of their mouths at the table talking about anybody’s women and kids. Disgusting behavior and to even team up coming at the judge, you don’t talk about anyone’s child besides the purpose of your job?! Is his job to bring in anyone’s children, what they like to eat, do you want candy, no! Do what you were presented today for - Thank you and all calm. I hope that thank you will serve them well at the table when he’s spitting foods out and talking about people’s kids again, and CHOKE.
The STATE has only ask each of our Witness's if they want to pass on any HEARSAY from unknown persons of what the unknown person may have wanted to said. (Defense and Judge, yelp we are find with that.)
Is there anything more despicable than a defense attorney? I know in our system they are necessary, but why don’t they have to at least be truthful and ethical? They can say and do absolutely anything with no consequences in order to win and turn a guilty client loose once again upon the public…and they vigorously resort to anything! Wonder how they look at themselves in the mirror.
Shout out to this judge!!! She is not playing the game the defense is trying to create! What a circus act of a team smfh. & What a total clown for saying “no one in the courtroom had endured what we have endured” SHAME ON YOU
Muhhaaaaa, No, The defense did a fantastic job, they all will get an upgrade, the partial drama barbydoll judge however will never be put on an case like this again, you will see, she made mistake after mistake, no wonder nobody takes her serious. In europe somebody like her would never even get a law degree. The defense by the way WON the case, they had the better arguments and displayed humanness. You love empty botox injected barby dolls, well you have zero taste then.
I noticed that very early in the trial. Just because the Judge is beautiful, they thought they’d get a mistrial or resting their case when they knew they weren’t calling anymore witnesses. They’ll always be public defenders paid for by the Florida tax payers. At their age they should have their own practice but that will never happen😂
Wow...super patient. As a judge, I would give one command to sit down and after that it's contempt. This isn't play time - she's a judge in a murder case. Direct the action then enforce the direction.
This guy is THE Public Defender...the defense team's boss. So Ms. McNeill ran to him after her objection earlier to complain about the victims families statements. Really? To stop the proceedings for the complaints of the defense team when today is the day for the victims to speak??? "Inciting violence"?? No. Just no.
The defense did a fantastic job, they all will get an upgrade, the partial drama barbydoll judge however will never be put on an case like this again, she made mistake after mistake, no wonder nobody takes her serious. In europe somebody like her never even get a law degree. The defens by the way WON the case, they had the better arguments and displayed humanness. You love empty botox injected barby dolls, well you have zero taste then.
@@worsethanjoerogan8061 but it is ok to flip the middle finger and expect people not to get mad.... make it make sense the defense team are unprofessional....
The defense did a fantastic job, they all will get an upgrade, the partial drama barbydoll judge however will never be put on an case like this again, she made mistake after mistake, no wonder nobody takes her serious.
Bro screw that judge, talking to that man likes hes 5 years old, telling him to go sit down, like bruh hes a grown ass man he can do whatever tf he wants to do, how about that judge stfu for once
Punish these attorneys by showing them true blind justice. To desecrate something as sacred as the law in the fashion these attorneys exhibited today, then they have lost the right to their eyes.
The judge should find the unruly attorney in contempt of court and fine him $5000 dollars, then add an additional $5000 if he does not comply. Then after the third strike, have the baliff remove him from her courtroom.
This had to be one of the stupidest things I've ever heard a defense lawyer say!!! Okay, I've heard even stupider things but he has a lot of gall doing this. These are the same lawyers that flipped the bird at one of the parents speaking during sentencing. The whole lot should be sanctioned as well as made to face their respective bar associations. Truly sad ...
These defense attorneys need to be disciplined for their actions, otherwise don’t bother asking for professionalism from the jury or from anyone else then.
I actually can see where the Defense is coming from on this one. It would only take three seconds for the judge to admonish the family members to refrain from making derogatory personal comments about the lawyers. Attacking a lawyer's family is not the purpose of a victim impact statement. Even if the lawyers are acting shady, the statements should remain focused on the shooter, the consequences of his actions, and the memory of the victims. Just my opinion.
I agree. The focus of the statements should be on Cruz. Not sure why the families are bringing up the defense children. This is a public defense team. Its their job to defend him (and many other criminals and murderers)
The blatant disrespect of the court is what made the victim impact statements inflammatory. If the defense had been professional throughout the trial this would not have happened.
The defense did a fantastic job, they all will get an upgrade, the partial drama barbydoll judge however will never be put on an case like this again, she made mistake after mistake, no wonder nobody takes her serious. In europe somebody like her never even get a law degree. The defens by the way WON the case, they had the better arguments and displayed humanness.
The attorney didn't threaten her children, for her to claim so is concerning. He was explaining why it was important that people not talk about his children, and he made his point, even though she may not realize it until a later time.
Exactly. This video frightens me to my core. She is behaving as though she's having an emotional argument with her partner in private. The attorney was so transparently demonstrating a point. Her reaction to having her children alluded to proved his point. Quite worrying indeed.
@@Zerenko I think the reason she perceived it as a threat was because as she said, no one watching knows anything about her personally or her family. There's a lot of crazy people out there so if her children are brought up here by an attorney, now everyone watching knows she has children and it feels exposing and threatening. As if him bringing up her children was calculated to bring peoples attention to the fact that she has some, and putting that idea in people's heads of possibly hurting her family. Like a form of intimidating her if you will, kind of like mob bosses. These judges go through a lot of trouble lto keep their families separate and safe from their jobs because they have to deal with so many deranged individuals so it's kind of a known thing that you don't bring up their families in court to protect that anonimity. Especially not during a trial being streamed online and potentially being watched by a lot of people that differ with how she has handled the case. I think her reaction was big but not inappropriate given the context. I appreciate your opinion on it though.
@@Naeruve Given this, does it not seem as though the attorney's point (about it being improper for his children to be mentioned in court) is valid and serious? She entirely dismissed it, only to have it immediately demonstrated to her how serious it is. Not fit to be a judge.
That's a ridiculous statement that you have absolutely no evidence for; you just said it bc it's the kind of thing that gets you pats on the back and goes unchallenged in today's world. I've covered court cases for 14 years and have been in over 100 courtrooms all across America and can assure you lawyers go hard right at male judges as well. You pulled that statement directly out of your ass
You don't need to be a feminist to think that tbh. If it was a male judge who presided over this case nobody probably would have batted an eye. but when a woman is firm she's "histrionic" and "out of line." People definitely think she's ditsy too because she is young and photogenic - like legally blonde lol.
Exactly, and I NEVER pull the race or gender card. But in this instance you have to suspect that a male judge would not be receiving all this pushback and argument. Yes, certain legal regulatory bodies deemed the judge to have acted inappropriately. But to be fair, she was PUSHED OVER AND OVER again regardless of how many times she said they were moving on the defense would not stop, almost to a contempt of court level. I would consider myself the opposite of a feminist, but even I have to agree that it is hard to imagine that a male judge would recieve this much disrespect and this much defiance when stating repeatedly that the proceedings are to move on. She received virtually no respect during this trial from the defense. In these highly publicized cases where it is an open-and-shut case, the defense often has to resort to thus type of nonsense to put in the appearance that they are engaging in some sort of defense. Granted, I know this was just a sentencing hearing, but it's just gaslighting to try to draw the focus to anything, ANYTHING besides the defendant ans the crime.
The defense did a fantastic job, they all will get an upgrade, the partial drama barbydoll judge however will never be put on an case like this again, she made mistake after mistake, no wonder nobody takes her serious. In europe somebody like her would never even get a law degree. The defens by the way WON the case, they had the better arguments and displayed humanness. You love empty botox injected barby dolls, well you have zero taste then. She ruined her career just there with her dramatic unreasonable outburst.
The victims are rightfully upset...but there is such thing as defense team rights...and in court the impact statements were being made at the children of the defense team (thats technically not allowed)...when the defense asked that the judge address it, she said she never heard anything... thats when he said "had it been said about your children you would have heard it"...and she called that a threat... which is was not. she kind of proved his point. this judge was wrong here... the impact statements arent even supposed to be directed AT the defendant... and she is allowing them to call him names and everything else... believe it or not there is a reason people think she is being a bad judge...because the rules she is breaking could be the reason someone like Cruz gets a lighter sentence or even a mistrial.
This entire episode - from the horrifying shooting itself, to the soccer mom judge telling the attorney to go sit in the corner - is only possible in the sick, absurd place the USA has now become
The fact that she is not holding anyone in contempt is why they do not respect her. Respect is earned. Hold them in contempt and let them spend the night in the slammer.
17 people died and this happens in court. that defence team needs to be disbarred.
People don't know how to spell defense... 😅
Jesus, I can’t believe how many times the judge had to repeat herself to get lawyers to listen to her orders. Complete lack of respect for her and the court smh.
He needed to be dismissed and probably be suspended from practicing for a time. That wild that a lawyer who knows how the work would come into the court and obviously disrespect her like that .she work hard for the spot amd he has ruined his chances to one day getting there too
The Florida Judicial Qualifications Commission disagree with you. They said the judge acted inappropriately.
Because she's a woman
The judge wasn’t earning respect. This judge wasn’t being fair with requests that are reasonable about mentioning someone’s children. She didn’t like it. Why is it not okay for him not to like it either ? Completely reasonable
@catzee4720 That wasn’t what this was about. The primary defence lawyer was fairly savvy, and whether or not he respected the judge wouldn’t have mattered here. He had simply spotted that the judge was emotionally off guard for a moment, and was attempting to obtain an outburst which would have ruined the legitimacy of the trial. He nearly succeeded.
"No one in this courtroom has had to endure what we've had to endure." That's quite a statement in a hearing about a mass murderer
It's unbelievable that he said that. I don't know if they understand what their client did.
Can you actually imagine the audacity
Thats how little they care about the victims.
That comment made me absolutely sick to my stomach! They are as heartless at the murderer!
Thank you for mentioning that, I was thinking the very same thing...."no one has had to endure what the defense has" ARE YOU SERIOUS ??? THESE PEOPLES FAMILY MEMBERS ARE DEAD !!!!! HOW DARE YOU TRY TO EQUATE LISTENING TO FAMILY MEMBERS THAT ARE IN FOREVER PAIN , TALK ABOUT THAT PAIN AND YOU HAVE THE GALL TO SAY "NO ONE IN THIS COURTROOM HAS HAD TO ENDURE WHAT THE DEFENSE HAS HAD TO ENDURE" NOTHING COULD BE FURTHER FROM THE TRUTH !!!! SHAME ON YOU !!!
"Judge, please do not summarily dismiss me."
"I'm summarily dismissing you."
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
I mean he is doing that for the record.
He is going to lodge a complaint about the judge allowing threats to go unremarked in the courtroom. The judge will get scolded for that and learn from it. She's a smart and conscientious judge.
@@annabellelee4535
It was an outburst during an impact statement. That's not actionable.
This judge will no be scolded, reprimanded or anything...
But two of those defense lawyers should be censured and suspended from law immediately after the trial.
She should have held the scumbag in contempt and thrown him in jail. The entire defense team should be disbarred and no decent human being should ever speak to them or do any business with them. They should be outcasts from society.
Yep white privileged rude appointed judge
This defense team is vile, disgusting and it’s quite frankly disturbing that they are attorneys. They are the epitome of what is wrong with humanity
What do you expect from Criminal Defense Lawyers? They defend the people who kill children for christ sakes. You think they are actually good ones?
@@8thhousealchemist600 arent they appointed public defenders?
Indeed. It’s not about them being appointed it’s about their behavior. Their behavior is disgusting.
I don't know how you can give the middle finger to the judge and not have any consequence.
@@talon310calif It wasn't to the judge
It's disgusting how they won't respect her when she demands them to go sit down. Like the judge spoke, you need to follow. Simple as that
its because the judge is acting like an insane barren hag
@@nicolefunetes5969 The defense team of a mass murderer which has made a mockery of the entire trial threw the judge's children under the bus and when she got rightfully offended and wanted them to sit down, they disregarded her. It's her court she holds the power. And just based off your profile picture, you look like the hag to me.
@@nathanlev9879 "IM NOT BARREN!!!!!!!!!!! IM NOT A HAG" yeah shes totally sane and not a psycho
@@nicolefunetes5969 Im not sure if you’re being sarcastic or not but I’m pretty sure the only insane ones in this case are that murderer’s defense attorneys and the people defending them
@@nicolefunetes5969 yeah, it’s so easy to keep your cool when you’re a mother whose children are being brought into an already awful and stressful cesspool of disrespect of even more children that were murdered in a school setting.
y’all sit from the comfort of your home watching this, you nor i could ever know what these people are feeling and how they are grieving in this situation. it’s so easy to judge people when you’ve never been in their shoes.
"Nobody in this courtroom has had to endure what we've had to." Are you f'ing kidding me? The audacity.
Who else has been threatened in this court?
@@annabellelee4535 Shouldn't you be working on your depositions or something Ms McNeil?
roasties shoudlnt be allowed to be judges, this woman is literally insane
@@nicolefunetes5969 What's are roasties? Sounds interesting!!
@@nicolefunetes5969 I hope your school has you on a watch list.
If lawyers carried on like this here in Australia they'd be disbarred in a heart beat and rightly so. You can't show disrespect to a judge no matter what you feel or think, especially as a lawyer. this is a sign of the times we live in, the lack of respect is astounding here
These crooks are defending an animal that wasn’t worth defending their position should be ceremonial at best.
@@ianfortuna9385they are public defenders assigned by the state.
@@Tolstoy111 yes they’re public defenders and they’re fighting WAY too hard for someone who doesn’t have a case! Their position is traditional, ceremonial, dare I say CHECKLIST *AT BEST*
@@ianfortuna9385 this was a sentencing hearing not a trial. And the defense technically won since he didn’t get the death penalty.
@@Tolstoy111 you sound happy about this are you a monster just like him? You probably are!!
I don't believe I've ever seen attorney's act this way.
The judge was the one out of line. The defense had to listen to the witnesses invoking their children and the judge didn't notice or care, yet the minute her own children get invoked she flips out. She's a fucking hypocrite.
OJ trial flashbacks
It was a three ring circus. It was ridiculous.
Lowest of the low
Just wait until the trump trials.
They're gonna get nasty
I can't believe such disgusting statement is said in the court. Even worse, this guy doesn't even look apologetic when he said that. He arrogantly and disgustingly said this in front of the victims.
That is not at all what my conclusions would be based on this short vid. And Neither did a top Floriday Court after analyzing the whole court case, and in response reprimanded the judge, who in my opinion is clearly out of line with her "threatening her children" which the lawyer clearly didn't. Filing from the supreme court with factual findings: fingfx.thomsonreuters.com/gfx/legaldocs/klvyzkzyxpg/07242023florida_parkland_report.pdf
Every one of these defense lawyers needs to be disbarred. Flipping the bird at the Court and laughing with the killer and this comment about “no one has to endure what this defense has to endure” disgusting. Thank you to the judge for protecting the victims.
well, technically the judges job is not exactly to protect the victims. its to conduct the court in a law-based fact-based manner.
Which she did.
Over-emotional judge; she’s Terrible with a short temper….no one said anything about her children
@@kulaishimunyakayanza5938 the defense lawyer mentioned her children directly. What planet are you on?
@@kulaishimunyakayanza5938 Umm, they had weeks in trial, you did not see anything here. And if you watch all the other videos you will see her calmly dealing with a lot of nonsense. By this day of the trial she was long past fed up.
Absolutely
I love how this judge rules her courtroom. All the jerks trying to get pushy in her courtroom. The judge should have ordered those lawyers into custody overnight for contempt. The judge was patient and in no way contemptuous. It's plain to see by anybody with integrity, the attorneys were beyond disrespectful.
Unfortunately, the JUDGE was the one who would end up being in contempt…by the Florida Supreme Court.
In my view, she was a hero for trying to do the right thing for the families. @@jimthegatormantwopoint0
@@jimthegatormantwopoint0because the state of Florida is so fking backwards!
The Florida Judicial Qualifications Commission disagrees.
@@jimthegatormantwopoint0 Yea how dare she not play nice with people disobeying court orders
I like this Judge!!
Not impressed how they kept talking back to her.
Why were they not held in contempt of court for blatantly DISOBEYING the judge's order?
Unprofessional public defence is standard. Our justice system is a sham. That is, most defendants have no access to compitant council! The judge here is also extremely unprofessional herself. Her children were not threatened, it was only a comparison regarding her own uncalled for comment of the defence attorneys children.
@@Devina210 perhaps because this judge isn't very professional herself.
@@jKLa you never bring up the judges children lmao, that defense attonery lacks basic decorum. there was no need to attempt to 'relate' with the judge
@@yeeyee52 Yeah it was a dumb move on his part AS I MENTIONED in my statement if you actually bothered to read it in whole. His conduct was VERY nout of line. However she also brought up his children first and is full of it. It was a bad move largely because she has final authority in the courtroom as she is the JUDGE. She should not be! Terrible unprofessional defence overall but also terrible unprofessional and ABUSIVE judge here, allowing threats to be made by victim's family, referencing the defences attorneys. The first defence attorney seen speaking in this clip was more then reasonable however. The Secund was another story and should be removed, as frankly should the judge herself, not that the latter will happen...
See how these defense attorneys are behaving. This is what is like to be in a narcissistic relationship. It is all about them and they continual divert the attention off of the problem and gaslight you to get you to focus on anything else.
These defense lawyers are disgusting. They act like they are so offended by people who lost their own children and loved ones speaking their truth. The truth hurts and when you are defending their loved one’s killer, you are subject to hear the hurt that these innocent families are going through. God bless the victims and their families.
I think it's the threats that are bothering the lawyers, you really don't want violence towards the lawyers and their families. Even you can't want to see children threatened.
@@annabellelee4535 the families didn’t want that. They wanted them to put themselves in the shoes the victims and families have walked in all these years. These families have been hurting for years only to get the sentencing that was less than expected and the defense should have compassion for that. Their hurt feelings don’t hold a fraction to the horrendous grief that their client caused. The talkback from the defense was completely unnecessary and unwarranted.
Defense lawyers are needed tho
In this case, the defense lawyers have been putting middle fingers up and laughing and joking in front of grieving families. Their behavior is unnecessary.
Karma will take care of them soon enough
That is the most out of control courtroom moment I’ve ever seen
you should check out Darrell Brooks... unless you just mean between the professionals then yes.
@@winko567 brooks was the most off the rails court room experience I’ve ever seen
I was talking about the professionals but now I’m curious about Darrell Brooks. I’m going to have to check that out.
Look up his rap song wat the bindnes it's hilarious 😂
@@bwd527 I didn’t know he had a rap song. This trial keeps getting more bizarre by the day. I’m going to try and look up his video. Thanks for letting me know about it.
Good the families have a right to talk, shame on those lawyers.
why?
@@joepappas4968 because he killed people it’s not a joke.
@@Sara-et4et but why do they have a right to talk about the lawyer's families? they didn't kill anyone.
@@joepappas4968 they are shaming the lawyers with the karma of what could happen now to their own families which is the truth. They have set themselves up for some bad experiences especially if they aren’t sorry.
The defense did a fantastic job, they all will get an upgrade, the partial drama barbydoll judge however will never be put on an case like this again, she made mistake after mistake, no wonder nobody takes her serious.
There's a'lot to unpack here, but I'm in shock. For that "" defense attorney "" to stand up there in front of the families of the people his client murdered in cold blood and got enjoyment from doing it and to say " No one in this court room has had to endure what we've had to endure " is disgusting. As far as I'm concerned he should have been held in contempt of the court right then and there then disbarred after that.
they are the defense lawyersnot the accussed so why would they be the topic of any ofthe statements? Attacking the lawyers' families is definetely not the purpose of a victim impact statement.Also the Judge being offended and claiming that they threatened their kids was not ok. Nobody threatened her kids, the guy was just trying to explain why this is not right and why she should have said something
@@skaania He did bring up her kids by using them as an example. He should have just listened and shut the hell up.
@@byronsmith3152 What do you think threatening someone's family entails? Children are part of the family. Do you really support threatening children because their parents are doing the job that they are supposed to do?
@@annabellelee4535 The attorney brought up her kids. I do not take that as threatening them, but he brought up her kids. Had he just shut up, then nothing happens. No examples needed to be made but the guy kept persisting. This is not rocket science here. The judge said she did not recall the lawyers kids being threatened, nor was it in the video we are commenting on. So then the attorney brings up her kids to try and prove nothing. That is shear stupidity by the attorney.
@@byronsmith3152 he did not threaten her kids, did he? He only said she would not like it if it was done to her family. That is not a threat. The judge took offence to that and called it a threat. Totally uncalled for, but by doing so she actually proved his point.
Why does a mass murderer have 10 attorneys?
The disrespect these defense lawyers showed the judge is unconscionsable.
DId you know that Elizabeth Scherer isn´t a judge anymore because the Florida Judicial Qualifications Commission found that Scherer violated many rules governing judicial conduct during Cruz's trial?
That is not at all what my conclusions would be based on this short vid. And Neither did a top Floriday Court after analyzing the whole court case, and in response reprimanded the judge, who in my opinion is clearly out of line with her "threatening her children" which the lawyer clearly didn't. Filing from the supreme court with factual findings: fingfx.thomsonreuters.com/gfx/legaldocs/klvyzkzyxpg/07242023florida_parkland_report.pdf
The Criminal Defense Attorneys: "My ego and character is being attacked".
Sickening humans. I hope they all rot in Hell.
Not their ego, their children. 2 witnesses mentioned their children, and they shouldn't have had to object for the judge to clamp down on the personal attacks
@@abdallaha92 Yeah I don't know why that's controversial for some people. I know the judge and defense have had a lot of conflict but she still needs to be professional and shut down statements like "I hope your kids die".
@@worsethanjoerogan8061 In fairness, no one said "I hope your kids die", but a comment that basically accused them of enabling the next school shooter did mention their kids and was completely out of line. When the Florida Association of Criminal Defense Lawyers blasts you, you've gone far beyond regular courtroom issues
The defense attorneys are taking away focus on the victim's families. What is the matter with these attorneys? So disgusting how they are disrespecting the deceased victims, the families, the judge, the court, and the law.
the defense actually didnt do anything wrong here. they asked that their kids be kept out of the impact statements... which it technically isnt even supposed to suggest or be directed at the defendant... let alone the defense team and their kids. the defense was actually in the right here... the judge let her emotion get ahead of her again... which alot of people are trying to point out... its bad for court cases to have a judge that cannot think impartially...because that is what causes mistrials. Those families were disrespecting the jury/ the defense team/ and the defenses kids... thats all a big no no. ask any lawyer. so many reasons why thats not good...
@@picklesdill9138 Then give me an example, ANY example when it's O.K. to be "flipping the bird" at the court or Laughing during a case WITH YOUR FOUND-GUITLY-OF-THE-MASSACRE CLIENT and any other histrionics coming from the defense table.
@@yassirr8538 im not defending the REST of the trial... Im talking about THIS specific moment... lets get that VERY clear... I dont have to like how the defense acted... I dont have to agree with the verdict... I dont LIKE CRUZ... and i think he got the wrong sentence... BUT the judge was WRONG here with how she handled THIS. thats what this video is about, thats what I addressed with my comment. dont put words in my mouth or twist what I said.
@@yassirr8538 what the judge did here... allowing the impact statements to disrespect the jury, and the defense team... is wrong. it can actually have bad impacts on future jurors...and it can in the future if she chooses to act this way again possibly put a murderer back on the street with a mistrial... its wrong. and its wrong for a reason.
@@picklesdill9138 In other words, the families giving their impact statements are STILL to be muzzled and not free to express how they are impacted by the sentence the jury elected? I thought this was now was THEIR moment to verbalize how they have been victimized by the defenses actions, the jury's sentence, specific testimony's and myriad other actions?
The defense is beyond disgusting ! 👏👏👏 to the Judge !!! 👏
Gesh those attorneys care more about their own hurt feelings rather than. The murders of those children and the pain those family members have endured
So, you don't mind if your children get threatened? The judge should have intervened when the victim started threatening the defense.
@@annabellelee4535 I never heard anyone issue a threat. Threats are not okay not sure I ever heard a threat, nor did anyone threaten the judge's kids. The judge also went unhinged at the defense attorneys and accused them of doing the same thing the defense attorneys accused the family members of. Just an unhinged courtroom altogether.
@@lorae7 I considered the victim statement to be threatening the defense attorneys and their families. There was no threat to the judge's family and her reaction thinking there was proves that the defense was right to be concerned. I think the judge lost control of the courtroom and forgot that the defense are just doing their jobs.
@@annabellelee4535 I agree the judge actually proved the defense attorney's point, however, that said, I never heard anyone threaten anybodies kids. But the defense attorneys have also made some grave errors as well in conduct. The whole thing seems to be a mess. The only one who has it good - is the murderer as he got everything he wanted.
@@lorae7 So basically, Mr. Schachter made an undeserving comment about the defense condoning the killings and that this is what they teach their kids, while Mrs. Oliver yelled that karma would get them and that they'd have to worry about their kids going to school (I think she meant that they helped to create an atmosphere that emboldened the next potential school shooters and that they'd have to worry about the same thing happening now). In both cases the judge should have stepped in.
Way to go judge, more power to you. Wish there were more like you
I bet the judge was holding this all in throughout the trial and she finally got to put the defence in their place. Also Mr Weeks trying to interrupt the judge is so rude.
The lack of respect towards the judge, and the victims families, is appalling! Like wtf!?
Full marks to the judge she's amazing
Terrible. Why do you think they behave that way? She's like a substitute teacher
That is not at all what my conclusions would be based on this short vid. And Neither did a top Floriday Court after analyzing the whole court case, and in response reprimanded the judge, who in my opinion is clearly out of line with her "threatening her children" which the lawyer clearly didn't. Filing from the supreme court with factual findings: fingfx.thomsonreuters.com/gfx/legaldocs/klvyzkzyxpg/07242023florida_parkland_report.pdf
How can anyone even mention their living children as an arguement in this case is quite disgusting.
I'm in love with this beautiful judge! Greetings from the Netherlands.
You stand strong Judge!!
Judge, you are great. Nonsense and misbehavior not tolerated.
Guess Karma is coming quickly. The guilt is piling up on the defense. Good for them job or not at some point you make the choice on who you represent.
@@Foxtrotechogolfcharlie Me, too. Not on any moral grounds, though. I feel the death penalty is fiscally irresponsible. The automatic appeals process is wastefully expensive, but doesn't cover appropriate rates for PD's. Someone sentenced to death is more likely to die in prison, not resulting from whatever manner a particular state chooses to take the life of those that take lives.
Their Karma is winning the case and depositing a fat paycheck. You do understand that they won, right?
@@Foxtrotechogolfcharlie Excellent point! I can't believe I stone forgot that one. He can be of use, for once, and not just a burden upon the good taxpayers of Florida.
Thanx!
@@annabellelee4535 I don't think Florida allots bonuses to public defenders, however I could be mistaken. That would make sense if they paid their public defenders something approaching competitive salary.
The defense did a fantastic job, they all will get an upgrade, the partial drama barbydoll judge however will never be put on an case like this again, she made mistake after mistake, no wonder nobody takes her serious.
Mindblowing how stupid and out of touch lawyers can be, for them to complain amd make a fuss about every little remark that they didn‘t like to hear in a trial that is supposed get justice for murdered children and the pain and horror their families have suffered for years….these lawyers are disgusting!
Absolutely disgusting behaviour. The trial has finished and these are just sentencing formalities, who do they think they are!!
The defense did a fantastic job, they all will get an upgrade, the partial drama barbydoll judge however will never be put on an case like this again, she made mistake after mistake, no wonder nobody takes her serious.
@@Nonowness being disrespectful, childish and unprofessional isn't an upgrade. Your scale ⚖️ of upgrade is telling.
Addressing the judge as a Barbie doll speaks volumes of your person regardless of the mistakes she made.
She didn't get to that point in her carrier by playing dress up.
@@ChukwubuDike Well she is a barby doll and extremely unprofessional, even hugging the prosecution showed how partial she was from th get go. She is also very much criticised by other high profile experts, who say Sherer did a bad unprofessional jobYou will see, she will never ever be put on a high profile case like this, she did to many mistakes and half of the time she had to ask the prosecution what to do. The defense however WON the case, despite it is extremely difficult to save a mass muderes live, but they were able to convince the jury that life is the right option. This is why they get an UPGRADE! Inteligent people understand the logic behind this, you obviously not.
@@Nonownessdid you even watch the thing? Amazing job? Flipping their middle finger, comparing the family's behavior to the capital insurrection etc... that's not ' amazing'. The US is the one and only developed country that gets it right - the death penalty must remain. Comparing to what the defendant in this case did to his victims, injecting him with poison is nothing but merciful and lenient. The same could be said about Jeffrey Dahmer- if winsconsin has the death penalty he deserved it.
@@ChukwubuDike That is not at all what my conclusions would be based on this short vid. And Neither did a top Floriday Court after analyzing the whole court case, and in response reprimanded the judge, who in my opinion is clearly out of line with her "threatening her children" which the lawyer clearly didn't. Filing from the supreme court with factual findings: fingfx.thomsonreuters.com/gfx/legaldocs/klvyzkzyxpg/07242023florida_parkland_report.pdf
It kills me watching these grown men have to be treated like toddlers. Good on the judge for holding her own.
Whatever some defense lawyers feel they had to sit through, is not even 0.01% of the horror that the families had to endure. Suck it up and move on defense team.
but it is not them nor their families who murdered the kids so why insult them? for doing their job? I'm with the defence team on this one.
These defense attorneys are ridiculous.
Some people don't like having their families threatened .
muuhhah, i bet you think the barbydoll judge is hot. The defense did a fantastic job and Won the case by the way!
Well you're wrong and are probably get a mistrial after this
@@ImDirteDan this was a sentencing trial and the defense won the case. There cannot be a mistrial. If he had gotten death, then there would be a mistrial.
@@Nonowness - defense did a fantastic job? LOLOLOLOLOLOL!!
She is a hero , and America needs more judges like her what a true leader, now I’m going to sit down
About time judges stopped tolerating defence crazy tactics!
The Parkland shooter/murderer has defense attorneys that are perfect for him -- whiners that disrespect the deceased loved ones, victims and judge. Can the judge throw these petty attorneys out?
They are complete a##holes. Apparently everything's a big joke to them. This is a courtroom not a damn trailer with beer buddies passing around the pot 🤨
How do you throw the WINNERS in the trial out? They won that trial.
The defense did a fantastic job, they all will get an upgrade, the partial drama barbydoll judge however will never be put on an case like this again, she made mistake after mistake, no wonder nobody takes her serious.
@@annabellelee4535 Isn't this the defendant that got 17 consecutive life sentences? If so then how did they win?
@@kd5you1 The defendant pled guilty so there was no trial to establish guilt, what the trial was about was the death penalty as punishment. The defense won the trial obviously. He didn't get the death penalty, now did he? Pay more attention next time.
This Judge, Lady, is like our PM in Italy, they have it!!!!!!!👏👏👏👏👏👏👏Well done. We all are hoping for a better world. Love from 🇮🇹
You’re amazing Judge Elizabeth Scherer 👑💗
@Account Name Agree, the defense kids can be threatens but not her's.
She is amazing and did an amazing job!
@@bootsie1212 I agree. She did an excellent job.
@Account Name How would you judge a trial in that the entire planet knows the guy is guilty and the defense acting like the victims' families are too angry.
@@PianoUniverse Nobody threatened the defenses' kids. He literally was acting like the victims' families are putting too much emphasis on his client's guilt. They are trying to disrupt the victim impact statements because the parents are so angry with Nicholas Cruz. Well, this is a sentencing, and the parents of the murdered children have every right to express their anger and grief.
Go stand in the corner.
Kudos to the judge for not allowing the defense lawyers to bully the court.
Is she prevented from issuing the defense attorney (who kept standing and kept talking repeatedly after he'd been instructed to sit down) a contempt citation?
Thank goodness this judge is resigning. A former prosecutor herself, she hugged the prosecuting attorneys after the trial, but railed against the defense attorneys whenever she had a chance. She's supposed to at least appear to be nonpartisan and fair. She failed miserably.
@@7777Martes Yes good, but also bad, she did succeed in allowing the defence to convince 3 of the 12 jurors deliberating to want life without parole, instead of death penalty, which is what Nicholas wanted, so a win for us all that he didn't get his way and will now rot in jail as someone's b*tch until his dying day👌
You realize that the judges behaviour was so out of line and violated so many courtrules in this scene that she lost her job over this, right?
@@MisterCobana89 Looking at your recent comments that's all you seem to care about🤨 Yes sherer resigned. Two of the defence attorneys were also fined and reprimanded for disrespectful & unprofessional conduct
I know lawyers are thought of as bitter and smug, but man this attorney fits the stereotype to a tee.
This judge needs to get control of her court- or should I say circus?
GO GIRL
I am surprised he wasn't held in contempt
You realize that the judge lost her job over that scene, right?
@@MisterCobana89 it wasn't over this scene. It was a multitude of reasons.
@@edwardrivera1107 she retired/quit
YES KARMA! Go judge!!!!
Wow!! I've seen it all .
The Judge does not want a circus. Amen to What she has said so far.. I think that Judge needs a raise!!
The defense did a fantastic job, they all will get an upgrade, the partial drama barbydoll judge however will never be put on an case like this again, she made mistake after mistake, no wonder nobody takes her serious.
Yes lady judge rule your courtroom raising her voice several times 😮😮😮 no respect for the judge
It would’ve never happened if the public defenders didn’t act like children. Those POS public defenders paid for by the Florida tax payers will never have their own practice 😂 Most of the attorneys are in their 40s or early 50s. The judge is a young beautiful Judge and they thought they would get away with continually asking for a mistrial or rest their case when they knew damn well they weren’t going to call more witnesses.
The lawyer thinks being picked on is worse than watching your kid get hunted down and slaughtered?!?
oh please !! It's all a bunch of big fat Egos! arguing.
She should have charged them with contempt.
No body has respect nowadays at all
Wow. These attorneys are absolutely awful at their jobs. They are lucky the judge even let them interrupt her that many times without holding them in contempt. It's sad their main argument seems to be playing the victim card. For the clients sake I hope they find some better representation.
They won the case, cupcake! The judge will be scolded on allowing threats to the defense to go unchallenged in the courtroom
The defense did a fantastic job, they all will get an upgrade, the partial drama barbydoll judge however will never be put on an case like this again, she made mistake after mistake, no wonder nobody takes her serious.
@@annabellelee4535 Cupcake? Bummer you can't actually form an intelligent comment without name calling. Don't ever go to law school. The name calling, bad attitude, ego and staggering ineptitude with the English language will have you kicked out on the first day. I highly recommend reading something every once in a while so you can expand your vocabulary and form arguments in an intelligent, sophisticated way without the need to resort to name calling.
@@thepolishedwook Amen, sister!
The judge has every right to shut down such disrespectful attorneys. If you listen to the families impact statements, there was no threat made or, even insinuated, to the defense’s children. The defense has made a mockery of this trial and has been incredibly disrespectful. The families have every right to have their voices heard. For them, they don’t have children to defend because their children are DEAD. Shame on people for supporting the defense team. This was the families time to be heard.
100 percent!
Omg, as a teacher, I relate to this judge ❤️
So depressing to have a judge like this
This defense team is absolutely ridiculous.
The defense did a fantastic job, they all will get an upgrade, the partial drama barbydoll judge however will never be put on an case like this again, she made mistake after mistake, no wonder nobody takes her serious.
Very interesting that as a woman she had to tell the men numerous times to move or sit down. Would that have happened with a male judge?
No
The defense lawyers seems like they laugh and spit foods out of their mouths at the table talking about anybody’s women and kids. Disgusting behavior and to even team up coming at the judge, you don’t talk about anyone’s child besides the purpose of your job?! Is his job to bring in anyone’s children, what they like to eat, do you want candy, no! Do what you were presented today for - Thank you and all calm. I hope that thank you will serve them well at the table when he’s spitting foods out and talking about people’s kids again, and CHOKE.
The STATE has only ask each of our Witness's if they want to pass on any HEARSAY from unknown persons of what the unknown person may have wanted to said. (Defense and Judge, yelp we are find with that.)
Fun Fact: this incident caused this judged to be disqualified
Tell me your all liberals, without telling me your all liberals
Imagine having to talk to multiple grown men like children
Go to the back of the room now.
Is there anything more despicable than a defense attorney? I know in our system they are necessary, but why don’t they have to at least be truthful and ethical? They can say and do absolutely anything with no consequences in order to win and turn a guilty client loose once again upon the public…and they vigorously resort to anything! Wonder how they look at themselves in the mirror.
you are right.
Good for you judge!!
Shout out to this judge!!! She is not playing the game the defense is trying to create! What a circus act of a team smfh. & What a total clown for saying “no one in the courtroom had endured what we have endured” SHAME ON YOU
Muhhaaaaa, No, The defense did a fantastic job, they all will get an upgrade, the partial drama barbydoll judge however will never be put on an case like this again, you will see, she made mistake after mistake, no wonder nobody takes her serious. In europe somebody like her would never even get a law degree.
The defense by the way WON the case, they had the better arguments and displayed humanness. You love empty botox injected barby dolls, well you have zero taste then.
They don’t take the judge serious. Wow. Just because she’s a 10 don’t give them the right to act like that. She says jump… they are to jump!
I noticed that very early in the trial. Just because the Judge is beautiful, they thought they’d get a mistrial or resting their case when they knew they weren’t calling anymore witnesses. They’ll always be public defenders paid for by the Florida tax payers. At their age they should have their own practice but that will never happen😂
This is hilarious. It's like a teacher scolding misbehaving students and sending them to the principal's office.
There is nothing hilarious about this, how dare you say such a thing.
the irony is painfully humourous
Wow...super patient. As a judge, I would give one command to sit down and after that it's contempt. This isn't play time - she's a judge in a murder case. Direct the action then enforce the direction.
This guy is THE Public Defender...the defense team's boss. So Ms. McNeill ran to him after her objection earlier to complain about the victims families statements. Really? To stop the proceedings for the complaints of the defense team when today is the day for the victims to speak??? "Inciting violence"?? No. Just no.
Too many nuts could come gunning for the defense or their families. The victims can bitch about Cruz, but the defense was doing their job.
Unprofessional bunch of animals the whole lot of em . Just rats inside of suits and ties
The defense did a fantastic job, they all will get an upgrade, the partial drama barbydoll judge however will never be put on an case like this again, she made mistake after mistake, no wonder nobody takes her serious. In europe somebody like her never even get a law degree.
The defens by the way WON the case, they had the better arguments and displayed humanness. You love empty botox injected barby dolls, well you have zero taste then.
Thing is he has a point. Judge shouldn't have let the personal attacks on the defense and their kids slide. They don't have to accept that.
@@worsethanjoerogan8061 but it is ok to flip the middle finger and expect people not to get mad.... make it make sense the defense team are unprofessional....
Absolutely sick people
Three cheers for the judge ❗❗❗
The defense did a fantastic job, they all will get an upgrade, the partial drama barbydoll judge however will never be put on an case like this again, she made mistake after mistake, no wonder nobody takes her serious.
Sad when the murderer (yes he was convicted) seems like the mature one.
How that dude didn't get a contempt ruling is beyond me.
Bro screw that judge, talking to that man likes hes 5 years old, telling him to go sit down, like bruh hes a grown ass man he can do whatever tf he wants to do, how about that judge stfu for once
Punish these attorneys by showing them true blind justice. To desecrate something as sacred as the law in the fashion these attorneys exhibited today, then they have lost the right to their eyes.
The judge should find the unruly attorney in contempt of court and fine him $5000 dollars, then add an additional $5000 if he does not comply. Then after the third strike, have the baliff remove him from her courtroom.
This had to be one of the stupidest things I've ever heard a defense lawyer say!!! Okay, I've heard even stupider things but he has a lot of gall doing this. These are the same lawyers that flipped the bird at one of the parents speaking during sentencing. The whole lot should be sanctioned as well as made to face their respective bar associations. Truly sad ...
1 month in prison would cool these lawyers down.
These defense attorneys need to be disciplined for their actions, otherwise don’t bother asking for professionalism from the jury or from anyone else then.
The judge show a lot - I mean a whole lot - of restraint. She could have held him in contempt and jail his disrespectful behind !!!
I actually can see where the Defense is coming from on this one. It would only take three seconds for the judge to admonish the family members to refrain from making derogatory personal comments about the lawyers. Attacking a lawyer's family is not the purpose of a victim impact statement. Even if the lawyers are acting shady, the statements should remain focused on the shooter, the consequences of his actions, and the memory of the victims. Just my opinion.
I agree. The focus of the statements should be on Cruz. Not sure why the families are bringing up the defense children. This is a public defense team. Its their job to defend him (and many other criminals and murderers)
It's a fine line to walk. I think the victims families should be able to fully express themselves, however there's no need to perpetuate bad behavior.
They are public officials. If they don't like it then they can repeal the first amendment.
They deserve it
The defense lawyer's job and creed is to do their job with 100% efficiency. They may not like Cruz, but they must defend him without prejudice.
Over-emotional judge; she’s Terrible with a short temper….no one said anything about her children
The blatant disrespect of the court is what made the victim impact statements inflammatory. If the defense had been professional throughout the trial this would not have happened.
The defense did a fantastic job, they all will get an upgrade, the partial drama barbydoll judge however will never be put on an case like this again, she made mistake after mistake, no wonder nobody takes her serious. In europe somebody like her never even get a law degree.
The defens by the way WON the case, they had the better arguments and displayed humanness.
This judge needs to calm down and act appropriately. A judicial review is in order.
The attorney didn't threaten her children, for her to claim so is concerning. He was explaining why it was important that people not talk about his children, and he made his point, even though she may not realize it until a later time.
Exactly. This video frightens me to my core. She is behaving as though she's having an emotional argument with her partner in private. The attorney was so transparently demonstrating a point. Her reaction to having her children alluded to proved his point. Quite worrying indeed.
@@Zerenko I think the reason she perceived it as a threat was because as she said, no one watching knows anything about her personally or her family. There's a lot of crazy people out there so if her children are brought up here by an attorney, now everyone watching knows she has children and it feels exposing and threatening. As if him bringing up her children was calculated to bring peoples attention to the fact that she has some, and putting that idea in people's heads of possibly hurting her family. Like a form of intimidating her if you will, kind of like mob bosses. These judges go through a lot of trouble lto keep their families separate and safe from their jobs because they have to deal with so many deranged individuals so it's kind of a known thing that you don't bring up their families in court to protect that anonimity. Especially not during a trial being streamed online and potentially being watched by a lot of people that differ with how she has handled the case. I think her reaction was big but not inappropriate given the context. I appreciate your opinion on it though.
@@Naeruve Given this, does it not seem as though the attorney's point (about it being improper for his children to be mentioned in court) is valid and serious? She entirely dismissed it, only to have it immediately demonstrated to her how serious it is. Not fit to be a judge.
@battery, the judge mentioned her own children a few times throughout the trial.
@@parttimehallmonitor what was said about Defense counsel’s children?
Wow. The amount of disrespect. No one would be this defiant towards a male judge.
That's a ridiculous statement that you have absolutely no evidence for; you just said it bc it's the kind of thing that gets you pats on the back and goes unchallenged in today's world. I've covered court cases for 14 years and have been in over 100 courtrooms all across America and can assure you lawyers go hard right at male judges as well. You pulled that statement directly out of your ass
My thoughts entirely.
I'm not a feminist, but hard not to wonder about how she is treated because she is young and pretty.
You don't need to be a feminist to think that tbh. If it was a male judge who presided over this case nobody probably would have batted an eye. but when a woman is firm she's "histrionic" and "out of line." People definitely think she's ditsy too because she is young and photogenic - like legally blonde lol.
Exactly, and I NEVER pull the race or gender card. But in this instance you have to suspect that a male judge would not be receiving all this pushback and argument. Yes, certain legal regulatory bodies deemed the judge to have acted inappropriately. But to be fair, she was PUSHED OVER AND OVER again regardless of how many times she said they were moving on the defense would not stop, almost to a contempt of court level. I would consider myself the opposite of a feminist, but even I have to agree that it is hard to imagine that a male judge would recieve this much disrespect and this much defiance when stating repeatedly that the proceedings are to move on. She received virtually no respect during this trial from the defense. In these highly publicized cases where it is an open-and-shut case, the defense often has to resort to thus type of nonsense to put in the appearance that they are engaging in some sort of defense. Granted, I know this was just a sentencing hearing, but it's just gaslighting to try to draw the focus to anything, ANYTHING besides the defendant ans the crime.
I have even more respect for this judge now!! Loved this part today!!!
The defense did a fantastic job, they all will get an upgrade, the partial drama barbydoll judge however will never be put on an case like this again, she made mistake after mistake, no wonder nobody takes her serious. In europe somebody like her would never even get a law degree.
The defens by the way WON the case, they had the better arguments and displayed humanness. You love empty botox injected barby dolls, well you have zero taste then. She ruined her career just there with her dramatic unreasonable outburst.
The Chief public defender was moments away from being held in contempt! What an idiot. Arguing with the Judge.
This argument is so disrespectful to the victims who LOST THEIR CHILDREN.
The victims are rightfully upset...but there is such thing as defense team rights...and in court the impact statements were being made at the children of the defense team (thats technically not allowed)...when the defense asked that the judge address it, she said she never heard anything... thats when he said "had it been said about your children you would have heard it"...and she called that a threat... which is was not. she kind of proved his point. this judge was wrong here... the impact statements arent even supposed to be directed AT the defendant... and she is allowing them to call him names and everything else... believe it or not there is a reason people think she is being a bad judge...because the rules she is breaking could be the reason someone like Cruz gets a lighter sentence or even a mistrial.
I am so irritated that they treated the judge with such disrespect. SHAME ON YOU
This entire episode - from the horrifying shooting itself, to the soccer mom judge telling the attorney to go sit in the corner - is only possible in the sick, absurd place the USA has now become
The way they speak to the judge is shocking!
The fact that she is not holding anyone in contempt is why they do not respect her. Respect is earned. Hold them in contempt and let them spend the night in the slammer.
Yeah, that would have *really* given the Supreme Court ammunition to disbar her.
All you simps see a hot judge and get goo goo eyes. Gross.