Really terrific and creative work Tim! As far aso those butterflies go & just for ha ha's, why don't you try making them in the shape of a butterfly wing. 👍👍🎸🎸🦋🦋🦋
I love this iteration! The wood selections are perfect IMO. Woods that have large open grain are usually avoided by mass manufacturers to save time in finishing. As long as the wood is stable and strong enough for the job, USE IT! Have you ever thought of using Osage Orange for the bridge and nut? It's hard as nails but it would last forever on a bass.
I like how he mounts Music Man humbuckers In the correct “upside down” orientation which provides a much more comfortable and useful thumb rest for the player.
The Apeiron Evolution, I dig it! The more of these you make, the more the design grows on me. I love how unique it is. And the Mk I still looks and sounds great! Thanks for sharing!
i wouldn’t mind knobs on the back because i barely touch them anyway. on guitar i don’t really tweak with knobs but on bass i will tweak my knobs, but once i find a sound i like i set it and forget it.
i always find it funny when people are like "you cant make an instrument like that" when they are just running off assumptions made by others and passed to them. so many second hand opinions with very little backing in reality. while instrument making is very much a tradition with some beautiful traditional style instruments, i dont think people get how young electric guitars and bass' are, and how much room there is for experimentation. not to mention how the advances in things like composite materials and cnc manufacturing have really changed the realm of possibilities with these kinds of instruments. your og aperion seems great 3 years on! and i love watching your updates of the new versions.
"Tradition" can be beautiful and meaningful, but it can also be counter progressive and poisonous - and I'm not just referring to instrument making :-p
cheers! Part of the idea and design behind this is to make them not "boutique bass" prices. Even the most tricked out one is still less than an American made Fender P bass.
I definitely like the "strings on a piece of wood" concept where you minimalise the visible hardware. Would be fun if you could somehow hide the tuners. Maybe headless bass tuners somehow slotted in the back. Dont do it for me off course, im located behind an importtax wall
When people tell you "That's wrong!" but it works. I very much like the originality of the design. Just call the variations Mark II, Heritage Custom, and MK5 and keep people guessing what happened to 3 and 4.
lol. But seriously that is the point. Here, where I live, maple grows easily and readily and is great for making guitars, but by the time I get it to you over there it has a huge carbon footprint and costs a heck of a lot more... so why should you or I import wood from elsewhere to make, well, pretty much anything? You should make guitars where you are from wood that grows near you, right? and by "you" I mean the hypothetical collective "us", but I'm looking at YOU, specifically, Gibson, and all those brainwashed into thinking one must deforest other continents to make guitars... :-p
It is my fav wood to work with, hands down. I was fortunate enough to buy a bulk load of it about 5 or 6 years ago for a good price. It was in rough shape so a little more waste than usual, but for the price... However I'm pretty much out now, trying to make another score.
I will go through and look at your videos but where you talked about epoxying the truss rod in is a spot that I am stuck and kind of dreading on my Bass build. I thought that truss rode were supposed to be clear of any kind of glue and the Stew Mac truss rod I have has specific epoxying instructions. Is it that I was under the wrong assumption from listing to a wide verity of other people or maybe just a bass thing? If possible any InSite would be helpful. Thanks for the video I love your ideas and shapes.
OK. My guess is every builder has their own way and philosophy. Here's mine. So yes, you don't want to get glue on the truss rod because it needs to be able to move. HOWEVER you also don't want the truss rod to be loose in there and able to slide or wiggle around. So I add just a tiny drop of glue to the very end of it, buried in the heel, and at the very top of it, before the part where the Allen key enters, just to keep it still. that's in. Like two eyedropper drops of glue on each end.
@@timsway Thanks. I appreciate the reply. I am thinking of getting a different truss rod just because of the directions this Stew Mac U Channel one has. For my first ever instrument build I am fine with the wood working portions of it, however, when it comes to the actual guitar parts. I am new to it and a internal non accessible part like the truss rod. I just don't want to make a mistake and have to redo a neck and fretboard. Again Thanks for the reply.
dont listen to those people, they dont know what they are talking about. you can use literally any hard wood to build a stringed instrument. you can reinforce wood with epoxy too, people who dont actually build need to shut their trapp.
Loving these!
Love the design honesty using the butterflies as a feature.
Nice video Tim. Love this line. Clean. Mahalo for sharing! : )
I need an Apeiron 6 an Apeiron Bass6 in my life. 🤙🏻🤙🏻🤙🏻
Those butterflies make each bass truly unique, as well as the construction more stable over time. I like it a lot.
I like the idea of the jack in the back of the instrument. May try that in the future. Keep up the great work!!
with a 90 degree jack or an angled input it works great!
Keep up the creative work. As you continue your journey, you're getting farther from tradition, and further into invention.
Really terrific and creative work Tim! As far aso those butterflies go & just for ha ha's, why don't you try making them in the shape of a butterfly wing. 👍👍🎸🎸🦋🦋🦋
I love this iteration! The wood selections are perfect IMO.
Woods that have large open grain are usually avoided by mass manufacturers to save time in finishing. As long as the wood is stable and strong enough for the job, USE IT!
Have you ever thought of using Osage Orange for the bridge and nut? It's hard as nails but it would last forever on a bass.
I have messed around with osage. It is super dense stuff!
I like how he mounts Music Man humbuckers In the correct “upside down” orientation which provides a much more comfortable and useful thumb rest for the player.
The Apeiron Evolution, I dig it! The more of these you make, the more the design grows on me. I love how unique it is. And the Mk I still looks and sounds great! Thanks for sharing!
thanks man, appreciate it.
i wouldn’t mind knobs on the back because i barely touch them anyway. on guitar i don’t really tweak with knobs but on bass i will tweak my knobs, but once i find a sound i like i set it and forget it.
Solid design. I like the improvements.
I remember watching the video on this the day it uploaded all those years ago. Crazy. Good shit Tim!
thanks man!
Wow!!!!this is amazing
i always find it funny when people are like "you cant make an instrument like that" when they are just running off assumptions made by others and passed to them. so many second hand opinions with very little backing in reality. while instrument making is very much a tradition with some beautiful traditional style instruments, i dont think people get how young electric guitars and bass' are, and how much room there is for experimentation. not to mention how the advances in things like composite materials and cnc manufacturing have really changed the realm of possibilities with these kinds of instruments. your og aperion seems great 3 years on! and i love watching your updates of the new versions.
"Tradition" can be beautiful and meaningful, but it can also be counter progressive and poisonous - and I'm not just referring to instrument making :-p
nicely done. or coming along nicely, if not quite done yet.
Very cool thanks Tim!
I absolutely love this design! Some day I'll be able to afford a boutique bass and it will 100% be one of yours! ❤️
cheers! Part of the idea and design behind this is to make them not "boutique bass" prices. Even the most tricked out one is still less than an American made Fender P bass.
I thought it was an amazing idea and you sure didn't disappoint!
GAWJUS, Tim! Love the incremental steps up...
I definitely like the "strings on a piece of wood" concept where you minimalise the visible hardware. Would be fun if you could somehow hide the tuners. Maybe headless bass tuners somehow slotted in the back. Dont do it for me off course, im located behind an importtax wall
My next video finishes these basses off, but the one after that you're gonna really dig. See you in two weeks! :)
49th looky-loo view; 6th LIKE posted at 3:00 - always liked that first one; the simplicity of the design.
When people tell you "That's wrong!" but it works.
I very much like the originality of the design. Just call the variations Mark II, Heritage Custom, and MK5 and keep people guessing what happened to 3 and 4.
lol.
Maybe try dogbone bowties? Has round corners and would look cool
basically what I settled on in the end, but the shape still needs some tweaking
What kind of screw-zip-tie clamps are those at 14:50?
they are a stew mac product for gluing fingerboards onto necks. relatively inexpensive but they only last so many uses.
"Maple is inexpensive." Please come to UK, and bring a lot of inexpensive maple with you.
lol. But seriously that is the point. Here, where I live, maple grows easily and readily and is great for making guitars, but by the time I get it to you over there it has a huge carbon footprint and costs a heck of a lot more... so why should you or I import wood from elsewhere to make, well, pretty much anything? You should make guitars where you are from wood that grows near you, right? and by "you" I mean the hypothetical collective "us", but I'm looking at YOU, specifically, Gibson, and all those brainwashed into thinking one must deforest other continents to make guitars... :-p
I have some reclaimed american chestnut. Great stuff enjoy it while you have it.
It is my fav wood to work with, hands down. I was fortunate enough to buy a bulk load of it about 5 or 6 years ago for a good price. It was in rough shape so a little more waste than usual, but for the price... However I'm pretty much out now, trying to make another score.
I will go through and look at your videos but where you talked about epoxying the truss rod in is a spot that I am stuck and kind of dreading on my Bass build. I thought that truss rode were supposed to be clear of any kind of glue and the Stew Mac truss rod I have has specific epoxying instructions. Is it that I was under the wrong assumption from listing to a wide verity of other people or maybe just a bass thing? If possible any InSite would be helpful. Thanks for the video I love your ideas and shapes.
OK. My guess is every builder has their own way and philosophy. Here's mine. So yes, you don't want to get glue on the truss rod because it needs to be able to move. HOWEVER you also don't want the truss rod to be loose in there and able to slide or wiggle around. So I add just a tiny drop of glue to the very end of it, buried in the heel, and at the very top of it, before the part where the Allen key enters, just to keep it still. that's in. Like two eyedropper drops of glue on each end.
@@timsway Thanks. I appreciate the reply. I am thinking of getting a different truss rod just because of the directions this Stew Mac U Channel one has. For my first ever instrument build I am fine with the wood working portions of it, however, when it comes to the actual guitar parts. I am new to it and a internal non accessible part like the truss rod. I just don't want to make a mistake and have to redo a neck and fretboard. Again Thanks for the reply.
Like deployed 👍
dont listen to those people, they dont know what they are talking about. you can use literally any hard wood to build a stringed instrument. you can reinforce wood with epoxy too, people who dont actually build need to shut their trapp.
Прикольное видео.. Интересно на сколько афигеет афтор видео узная что его смотрит русский из Казахстана 😂😂😂
I'm glad you are here!