I am elderly and won't be around more than another decade or so, but I am concerned about my children and grandchildren. My oldest son is a teacher and is concerned about education in this country. My second son is concerned about the safety of his marriage to his husband. I have a daughter whose biological clock is ticking and might have to deal with women's rights issues soon. And my youngest son is planning to move out of the country. He has a young son, and we don't want him murdered at school. May God have mercy on us all.
This conversation validated how I am choosing to handle this year/season. Sometimes I feel “behind” or that I need to work harder to learn how to do the bridging work that I want to do. Sometimes we need to sideline ourselves, and sometimes our bodies sideline us. I have a complicated relationship with my parents that I would go as far to say is not even mutually respectful. Knowing that they would probably disown me if I came out, then also knowing that my capacity right now is severely limited due to chronic illness, I still want to celebrate Thanksgiving with them. Even if all I can do is stay quiet. But it’s silence not in the way of feeling silenced, but in a way that creates joy and hope from a situation that feels hopeless on the outside. Sometimes all we can do is listen, sometimes all we can do is celebrate that we are alive against the odds and be thankful.
My family has banned all Trump supporters from the home. Since my grandmother disowned me for dating another man, she is no longer allowed on our property. I am so lucky I can enjoy my turkey and cranberry sauce in peace. 💜
I love this bc when I was growing up I was raised into anti lgbtq redirect and I was able to deconstruct that so I think we need to just continue to be patient with people and hope they come around
I dont understand the members of my community that maintain relationships with their "loved ones" that cast a vote declaring they are of subhuman status.
I think this was a very important conversation to have. I think the framing of building bridges is so useful because it’s a collaborative effort between us and those people we disagree with. Great episode as always!!
As an older cis/ace male Christian, I am so dismayed that so many people who claim to "follow Jesus" have so much disdain for their fellow humans and those who Christ called "the least of these"... To hate the very people the God they claim to follow commanded them to serve has so broken my faith in people, and makes it extremely difficult for me to worship with them!
As someone who's been in this fight for a long time I say skip it. Your family needs to know how much they hurt you with this vote. They so uninformed that they were willing to give up your civil rights in exchange for cheaper groceries. Your family said you are worth less than food. They need to feel the pain of your absence as this one skip can be there everyday for them because they put you at risk of harm. That speaks louder than any conversation. The pain of your loss will help start the conversation
I've already multiple of my America friends say they're cutting ties with family members who voted for Trump and how their family doesn't get why they suddenly don't wanna talk to them. I wouldn't either if my family voted for someone who wants to takes away my rights.
Got news for you: many of us gays lost our blood family long ago and gave up chasing them down. So the rest of you who are finding out that you may be merely secondary, unimportant family versus entirely ostracized, I’m telling you it gets better. Invest in your CHOSEN family. They need the love more and appreciate it. Consider a queer-centric holiday. ✨ 🏳️🌈 💖 🏳️⚧️ ✨ 💖
If it's an option, skip going to events where you're not supported. If you're the only lgbtq person somewhere and have no allies at that event, i recommend skipping it. If you're out and comfortable saying so, let them know you don't feel safe/wanted/(how ever you feel)
Perhaps it's because I'm middle-aged and, unlike probably most of your subscribers, the fact that, even though my late father was a lay preacher, I was never drawn in by organized religion or the Bible in that way, I never thought it necessary to try to be nice to bigoted people except for having to fake what I thought growing up. I get why some people want to since they apparently had family members they actually like. I'm not an atheist, but I can't stand most of my relatives. I commend this young woman for writing this book for people who want these relationships, however. Just so you know, I'm fascinated by those in our community who can be involved in these things. I like hearing what people think. Hearing a literally out adult gay man saying he thinks love making that's true to his nature will damn his immortal soul in the last video was just too far for me, I love the two of you, BTW.
I didn't watch the last show because of the thumbnail, because i lived in a "side b" state for a long time, and it's triggering for me. Maybe some people can find peace in it, but that's not me, i don't understand because it just felt like living in fear.
If I'm being quite frank... I didn't look at the comments on the last video, but it's kind of disappointing to hear that people were upset that you guys posted the last video. I mean I don't want to start a dispute here, but like it was still a conversation worth having. And even if it stings more due to the recent election... Idk the fact that you should need to not release or push a release because it may not be received well, for me, is a bad sign. Like I think UA-camrs should make videos with their own creative ideas and headspaces in mind the most. And I don't want you guys to feel like you have to cater to the viewers. Not saying that it isn't a good thing to take viewers feedback and concerns into account, but idk... I just feel weird about that. Ok now I'll watch past like the first 5 mins of the video lol
Hahaha laughing at that last line. Totally, we just want to people that practice what we speak on, and say - we hear the positive comments and also hear the hard feedback. Thank you for watching! 🫶
Firstly, In this podcast, it has been stated a few times that others don't understand. I began decades ago saying, "One can understand to the degree one has experienced." A person can relate somewhat through empathy because of facing similar situations. I truly desire that we who are Believers who happen to also be Gay can be accepted, supported, and be our genuine selves. My position concerning this election is our sexual identity is only one issue to consider when voting. I cannot support most of the other issues; e.g., border crises, economic inflation, etc., are affecting many areas of my daily living in greater harm. I'd rather fight for change in living openly than not be able to function decently because of a great deal of unrule and fear of not being able to afford even half of my basic needs. Nowadays, one can risk limb and life regardless of sexual identity. Society, overall, is decreasing from unity and positivity to caring only for what pleases and benefits the individual. There is little Community in the world today. Again, I'd rather fight for my sexual identity rights than constantly dealing with massive chaos affecting most every area of living well.
Wow. I was going to comment in love to my younger brothers and sisters to fear not. Maybe God can use the challenges we all face to widen our tents. But you said it much better. Thanks!!
I struggle a lot with this. My parents are interpersonally incredible people, like to a shocking degree. They committed their lives to poverty and helping people in the inner city, and my mom has spent 40 years helping poor families and drug addicted women. Like well over 80,000 hours of helping these people. My dad is a counselor for unaccompanied male children coming from poor countries, mostly central and south america and the middle east. Theyre both Trump voters, my mom is full MAGA. She's always been an apocolyptic christian. She voted to end globalism and remove migrants because she believes its actually a democratic plot to allow criminals in the country to destroy it, my dad got a few genuinely scary unhinged extremist boys from Afghanistan and is basically afraid of them, and frankly its valid. Theyve assaulted his coworkers and theyve been fired for protecting themselves. So i do understand where they're coming from, but i still think theyre wrong. I've personally canceled thanksgiving but i let them know i love them unconditionally. Thats where im at, i dont know how i will feel if Trump does indeed hurt my friends.
@ My gay BF of 14 years is more right wing than me.Plus we have many conservative gay friends.We live in NYC.Take your head out of your a**.Not all gays are liberals!
I am elderly and won't be around more than another decade or so, but I am concerned about my children and grandchildren. My oldest son is a teacher and is concerned about education in this country. My second son is concerned about the safety of his marriage to his husband. I have a daughter whose biological clock is ticking and might have to deal with women's rights issues soon.
And my youngest son is planning to move out of the country. He has a young son, and we don't want him murdered at school. May God have mercy on us all.
This conversation validated how I am choosing to handle this year/season. Sometimes I feel “behind” or that I need to work harder to learn how to do the bridging work that I want to do. Sometimes we need to sideline ourselves, and sometimes our bodies sideline us. I have a complicated relationship with my parents that I would go as far to say is not even mutually respectful. Knowing that they would probably disown me if I came out, then also knowing that my capacity right now is severely limited due to chronic illness, I still want to celebrate Thanksgiving with them. Even if all I can do is stay quiet. But it’s silence not in the way of feeling silenced, but in a way that creates joy and hope from a situation that feels hopeless on the outside. Sometimes all we can do is listen, sometimes all we can do is celebrate that we are alive against the odds and be thankful.
My family has banned all Trump supporters from the home. Since my grandmother disowned me for dating another man, she is no longer allowed on our property. I am so lucky I can enjoy my turkey and cranberry sauce in peace. 💜
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
This is really lovely! You guys are great
Thank you so much for this podcast. Brit Barron taught me new stuff today and I'm grateful!! Thanks for all you do!
Thank you for meeting people where they are, even when we are not perfect. And I don't think you should apologize for letting Connor tell his story.
I love this bc when I was growing up I was raised into anti lgbtq redirect and I was able to deconstruct that so I think we need to just continue to be patient with people and hope they come around
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❤ I said good bye to the trumpets in my family.
I dont understand the members of my community that maintain relationships with their "loved ones" that cast a vote declaring they are of subhuman status.
I think this was a very important conversation to have. I think the framing of building bridges is so useful because it’s a collaborative effort between us and those people we disagree with. Great episode as always!!
As an older cis/ace male Christian, I am so dismayed that so many people who claim to "follow Jesus" have so much disdain for their fellow humans and those who Christ called "the least of these"...
To hate the very people the God they claim to follow commanded them to serve has so broken my faith in people, and makes it extremely difficult for me to worship with them!
I really needed to hear this conversation. Thank you 💙
Boy did I need to listen to this. Thank you so much for discussing this topic.
As someone who's been in this fight for a long time I say skip it. Your family needs to know how much they hurt you with this vote. They so uninformed that they were willing to give up your civil rights in exchange for cheaper groceries. Your family said you are worth less than food. They need to feel the pain of your absence as this one skip can be there everyday for them because they put you at risk of harm. That speaks louder than any conversation. The pain of your loss will help start the conversation
I normally spend thanksgiving alone for the last 6 years. One can survive without these “tradition” and reach out to friends if one is lonely
You do great work, keep going!
This was beautiful.
I've already multiple of my America friends say they're cutting ties with family members who voted for Trump and how their family doesn't get why they suddenly don't wanna talk to them. I wouldn't either if my family voted for someone who wants to takes away my rights.
Got news for you: many of us gays lost our blood family long ago and gave up chasing them down. So the rest of you who are finding out that you may be merely secondary, unimportant family versus entirely ostracized, I’m telling you it gets better. Invest in your CHOSEN family. They need the love more and appreciate it. Consider a queer-centric holiday.
✨ 🏳️🌈 💖 🏳️⚧️ ✨ 💖
Thank you
If it's an option, skip going to events where you're not supported. If you're the only lgbtq person somewhere and have no allies at that event, i recommend skipping it. If you're out and comfortable saying so, let them know you don't feel safe/wanted/(how ever you feel)
Perhaps it's because I'm middle-aged and, unlike probably most of your subscribers, the fact that, even though my late father was a lay preacher, I was never drawn in by organized religion or the Bible in that way, I never thought it necessary to try to be nice to bigoted people except for having to fake what I thought growing up. I get why some people want to since they apparently had family members they actually like. I'm not an atheist, but I can't stand most of my relatives. I commend this young woman for writing this book for people who want these relationships, however. Just so you know, I'm fascinated by those in our community who can be involved in these things. I like hearing what people think. Hearing a literally out adult gay man saying he thinks love making that's true to his nature will damn his immortal soul in the last video was just too far for me, I love the two of you, BTW.
I like very much much what yall are doing. Remember that God is in control.
I didn't watch the last show because of the thumbnail, because i lived in a "side b" state for a long time, and it's triggering for me. Maybe some people can find peace in it, but that's not me, i don't understand because it just felt like living in fear.
Guys - if we are Christians, we have CHRIST and that’s all we really need. You will be ok!
I feel totally hopeless
Any suggestions ?
Soo needing this episode thank you- i skip thanskgiving bc its rooted in genoc!de but the same question applies to christmas ❣️✨
Go, but with an escape plan. If it's safe.
If I'm being quite frank... I didn't look at the comments on the last video, but it's kind of disappointing to hear that people were upset that you guys posted the last video. I mean I don't want to start a dispute here, but like it was still a conversation worth having. And even if it stings more due to the recent election... Idk the fact that you should need to not release or push a release because it may not be received well, for me, is a bad sign. Like I think UA-camrs should make videos with their own creative ideas and headspaces in mind the most. And I don't want you guys to feel like you have to cater to the viewers. Not saying that it isn't a good thing to take viewers feedback and concerns into account, but idk... I just feel weird about that. Ok now I'll watch past like the first 5 mins of the video lol
Hahaha laughing at that last line. Totally, we just want to people that practice what we speak on, and say - we hear the positive comments and also hear the hard feedback. Thank you for watching! 🫶
Why people let politicians on in there homes and this is not the only holiday don’t be a fool
Firstly, In this podcast, it has been stated a few times that others don't understand. I began decades ago saying, "One can understand to the degree one has experienced." A person can relate somewhat through empathy because of facing similar situations.
I truly desire that we who are Believers who happen to also be Gay can be accepted, supported, and be our genuine selves. My position concerning this election is our sexual identity is only one issue to consider when voting. I cannot support most of the other issues; e.g., border crises, economic inflation, etc., are affecting many areas of my daily living in greater harm.
I'd rather fight for change in living openly than not be able to function decently because of a great deal of unrule and fear of not being able to afford even half of my basic needs. Nowadays, one can risk limb and life regardless of sexual identity. Society, overall, is decreasing from unity and positivity to caring only for what pleases and benefits the individual. There is little Community in the world today. Again, I'd rather fight for my sexual identity rights than constantly dealing with massive chaos affecting most every area of living well.
Wow. I was going to comment in love to my younger brothers and sisters to fear not. Maybe God can use the challenges we all face to widen our tents. But you said it much better. Thanks!!
@ I appreciate your kind words. Blessings to everyone ❣️
I struggle a lot with this. My parents are interpersonally incredible people, like to a shocking degree. They committed their lives to poverty and helping people in the inner city, and my mom has spent 40 years helping poor families and drug addicted women. Like well over 80,000 hours of helping these people. My dad is a counselor for unaccompanied male children coming from poor countries, mostly central and south america and the middle east. Theyre both Trump voters, my mom is full MAGA. She's always been an apocolyptic christian. She voted to end globalism and remove migrants because she believes its actually a democratic plot to allow criminals in the country to destroy it, my dad got a few genuinely scary unhinged extremist boys from Afghanistan and is basically afraid of them, and frankly its valid. Theyve assaulted his coworkers and theyve been fired for protecting themselves. So i do understand where they're coming from, but i still think theyre wrong. I've personally canceled thanksgiving but i let them know i love them unconditionally. Thats where im at, i dont know how i will feel if Trump does indeed hurt my friends.
Maybe the crazy liberal ones should!😂😂😂😂😂😂☺️☺️
Enjoy your holidays alone.
@ My gay BF of 14 years is more right wing than me.Plus we have many conservative gay friends.We live in NYC.Take your head out of your a**.Not all gays are liberals!