West Coast Railroad Logging Vol 2 Promo
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- Опубліковано 2 жов 2024
- This promo for Volume Two, last in the set of two DVDs available from Catenary Video Productions, covers challenges which faced railroad construction, including inclines, cableways, and plowing snow. Plus parbuckling wrecks, log dumps, mills and the "end of the show". Archival footage from 10 operations on the West Coast, and a sound track that will blow your socks off.
Ingenuity and inventiveness of US timber trade is amazing!
It's nice to see how they did that login the old trains the old equipment it's nice once in awhile to see back in time thank you 👍🇺🇸
Gotta love it!! I live here!! Almost! I grew up in Cheyenne Wyoming USA 🇺🇸 Lotsa Railroad stories to share!! WhoootWhooooot
I got to share your wonderful videos and footages of our USA 🇺🇸 Railways
Great video, Thanks for presentation. From Germany
Incredible historic footage of a bygone era. Thank you for your work compiling and preserving.
Excellent Registry, Thank (Temuco, CHILE 2020)
Brilliant footage!
I wonder what these men would think about the west coast today.
Enjoyed the video. Bet those were dangerous jobs those men did.
I like logging locos. Rode KL&L #7 in 1975 at Tacoma's Pt Defiance Park Camp 6. I took photos. A Pacific Coast Shay.
Omg, I think I stumbled upon a gold mine! Love it!
Great video. Love the audio to it it brings new life to these tapes. I just wondering what song did you use in this video.
The cable car carrying a flat bed car is so cool
Seeing is believing; someone told me about this 20 years ago, I thought they were nuts.
It's all gone now- we'll never see forests like that again. To think we became so desperate for timber, we built all these elaborate ways to get it.
growning up in snoqualmie valley has been amazing to see all the huge stumps from the timber cut to having one of the largest head rakes in a mill to seeing the mill burn in the 80s are valley is become forgoten with all the new comers but i am a proud native to the valley an its beutty
Beautiful, and sad.
Why would it be sad ?
@@bill3641 Look at what's left once these operations are done. Not much logging around Loyalton anymore. I wonder why? All the old growth will be gone someday, and then what? I guess they'll go into the parks and take what's left, as long as someone is making bank. SAD. GREED!
2018 OSHA Violation Count: 583
Simpler, different times. Wonder what the people in this video would think about the USA of 2018.
Safety is important for certain, but over regulation is costly and not productive. I"m not sure the people in the video would be able to relate to where we are now. Certainly a lot of the equipment would not be able to be used. That is what fascinates me about that era - the way ingenuity brought forth the ability to do the things they did. The Yosemite Valley incline is an example. They had one accident in 20 years. So they were safety conscious, and careful. But it certainly would not have been approved for use today!
Not MUCH AMAZED with UTUBE. TX. N . electric trains.
At the railroads peak of operation, an average of eight men a day died in the U.S. in RR related accidents.
This is simply marvelous to watch. I have been to so many of these places, while mills were still running and after some of these scenes faded into the past. I logged for one summer at Tenant, where Long-Bell had a RR shop and logging camp. Simply great stuff.
+Drycreek Dave
Thanks for the complement Dave. I had a blast putting these two programs together, and had some great help from Jim Sabol and friends from Washington State. My Dad was storekeeper in Tennant in 1925.
I grew up in Big Valley not too far away from Tennant.
@@warrenhaack I live in Macdoel, CA. My grandmother's place is in Jerome half way between tenant and Macdoel. There are still remnants of Bell lumbers mill In Dorris.
@@westerntruckandtractorrepa1353 I would love to go out to Tennant. My father was the storekeeper there in 1925. I don't imagine there is much left.
@@warrenhaack I don't know what is there today, but in about 1961, a private party was converting the old company houses into more modern dwellings, with actual insulation in the walls and ceilings and was going to try and sell them as second homes. At that time, the roundhouse was still there and the power was supplied by a big Buda powered generator that got turned off at 9:00PM and started back up around 6:00AM. By the way, I subscribe to and watch your Western Truck channel.
Invaluable footage thanks for sharing
Some rare footage of shay locomotive. All wheel positive drive. Slower but beast torque. Cool factor 9 in my book.
Thanks for sharing this fantastic video! Those men were the ones who tamed the frontier!
Thank you for sharing I love and appreciate the golden years of how things looked and how everything was done
You had to have guts in order to work for a logging railroad. Main line railroading was a milk run compared to this.
Fantastic film footage.
A nice film and great ending with the locomotive engineer waving to the cameraman. I bet the railroad lumber cars had a short life the way they were worked.
What are those crazy looking loco's with the vertical cylinders and bevel boxes on the axles? Awesome bit of footage thanks.
Those are Shay geared locomotives. They were built by the Lima locomotive works. They had a top speed of 12 mph, and could pull a train up a grade steeper than a modern highway. See Volume One of WCRL for more info (Catenary Video).
The good old days when men were men and sheep ran scared!
So many fascinating things here! I love it!
ThePainTrain765 9
Where is McCloud River RR operation???
At 1:11,mix up?
There is Campbell River on Vancouver Island,however,Powell River(NOT PoweR River) is on mainland.
Also,Nanaimo Lakes are part of Nanaimo,city on Vancouver Island etc,etc.
Just to set the record straight.
Now,where this bridge is beats me?I am kinda new on the Vanc Island.
I`ll look into it
That's the bridge over the Nanaimo River, in place and in use to 1985, when fire severely damaged the bridge and prematurely ended the logging railway that ran from the Nanaimo Lakes to Ladysmith harbour.
Wow, that was some impressive footage of hard working men and machines and sadly now in CA you can not even drink from a straw, what went wrong.
You've got to be protected from yourself!
Liberal politicians is what went wrong.
I live here Clovis California USA 🇺🇸 the Logs once flowed.. and the Friant Railroad and my old Wyoming home and play ground set 4004 and Old Sadie “ Over The Hill Gang “ Cheyenne to Laramie Wyoming USA 🇺🇸
Democrats is what happend!
They clearcut the entire forest
I gave you the 400th thumbs up.
Thank you kindly. I really enjoyed producing this, and had some incredible help from some great folks up in Oregon and Washington headed up by Jim Sabol. But let us not forget to give thanks to my former partner, Don Olsen, now deceased, who started collecting these rare films 30 years ago and had the idea originally. He lived long enough to see it finished.
I suppose it is nothing but weeds and memories today?
Some of the locomotives have been saved and are running on tourist lines. Clover Valley Logging Mallet #4 runs on the Niles Cyn Ry in Fremont CA. But yes you can only find scars and very few remnants of the operations. There was a trestle out in the woods (West Side Bourland Bridge) but a heavy storm caused the middle bent to fall a few years ago and it fell. This is why I made these programs - didn't expect to find the huge wealth of footage, but had some serious help from Jim Sabol in Tacoma, Washington. He really went to bat to help me!
The long bell trestle near vernonia is still standing.
It looks like it was a peacefull and dangerous time, awesome video
What years are these clips from?
The footage includes clips from 1921 to 1955. The early films were taken in Black and White. The footage of the Michigan-California Cableway over the American River was from 8mm taken in 1935. It was sent back East to be cleaned 6 times and transferred to digital. The amount of silver in film before the war made the quality rival 16mm. The color footage of the Yosemite Sugarpine Incline came from the Archives of the California Railroad Museum in Sacramento. Logging Mallet #4 is still in service at Niles Canyon Ry in Fremont CA. I credit Jim Sabol in Tacoma, WA for helping locate and obtain permission for footage in that area.
Once watched an old holywood style movie shot in an old lumber camp in Northern Canada that was fascinating. It was shot in an actual lumber camp and had a holywood type plot (no money to pay men). It was truly great but have not been able to find it again as I don't know the title, can anybody help with this? My friend was and raised in Wawona and is fascinated by old logging culture. No man bunns, ear rings or pony tails in those camps!)
4:27 any chance one of those carriers have survived?
Dear Rose
Most if not all are gone. The locomotive #4 from the Clover Valley
Lumber Co has been restored and runs on the Niles Canyon Railway. The
Pacific Lumber Company at Scotia still exists, using trucks. Pickering
is now Standard Pacific (in Standard) and uses trucks. A few of
locomotives from the West Side are in tourist operation at Felton, Ca,
in Colorado, and in Georgia.
Not much left. Thanks for your interest.
Warren
Cass west Virginia has several shays runnin and a steam powered high lead skidder I guess you'd call it plus a rail mounted line loader and cars with the exact same number fonts on the sides...you can walk, ride, dream of a time when work meant strainin hard all day yrs at a time with no complaints just thoughts of how long will it last...
good job with adding sound
Thanks, scoring sound effects carefully takes a long time but it breathes a new reality into old archival footage. (It's also what I teach).
All equipment was made in the USA…..and no government regulations to hinder progress!!!…..
0:36 just imagine a cable snapping and having a run away log car...
That thought went through my head too. Incredibly, in the time that they ran the incline, they had only one accident, and no one was hurt. See Hank Johnson's book on the Yosemite Valley Ry for more info.
For info on the music, contact Alan Arnopole, the composer at "yodelsan@aol.com".
Hi Warren Please Send me song tital After 2:40 min in this video
@@thinktank4040 It is an instrumental version of "Enough" by the California Zephyr Band.
Well...something else l would NEVER have seen had it not been for UA-cam. Thankyou
Man! That was a lot of infrastructure on some of those lines. I don't think there was anything like some of those cable systems in the Eastern US that I know of.
the days of old... great history
That crane boom was wood wasnt it
Yes it was. Sometimes wooden booms had steel plating bolted to one or two sides for additional strength, but not this one.
What is this music?? I need it
"Enough" by California Zephyr Band
So many idea's you have given to me. Thank you for your dream's to be passed on.
USS Midway CV-41 ship Amen Brother...American Steel USA 🇺🇸 and engineers ingenuity
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Hello, I am wondering if there is any place on the web where I can find this version of the song?
ua-cam.com/video/8xJnvtrCGuY/v-deo.html found the correct song!
what is the music used for this? and are these videos still for sale? maybe on blueray or regular dvd
If you go to Catenaryvideo.com, you can purchase either DVD or Blu Ray copies of these plus several other logging programs. Thank you for your interest. The music is by the band, "California Zephyr".
@@warrenhaack thank you I'll look the band up and will now plan on getting some of these videos
what is the name of the song
Goodness people used to be so much more innovative 😅
Don't you just want to go back to those days and smell the wood being milled, the smoke and steam from the equipment and the beautiful surroundings they worked in?? Hell, I'd go back there in a flash! My great Grandfather was in the forests near Fort Bragg using axes and saws to produce railroad ties @ 5 cents a piece.....pitchfork salmon for dinner and elk and venison for supper.
After watching dozens of these vids and documentaries this is the best so far. So where would this country be right now had these men not accomplished what they did, as seen here? I see no proof of any "native" or "indigenous people" ingenuity at all in any of these operations. No where. There was not an operating lumber company before these men got there, that was made by any "indigenous people". No where has any advancement been made by them then up till now in any of these machines and workings. So tell me what the "White man" stole when the "indigenous people" were there. They never used the land for a vision. Just as it is today, no accomplishments or advances. Just on land, there without a dream to build.
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how years?
Piękny film. Widać bardzo rzadkie parowozy, które miały pionowe cylindry i napęd rozprowadzony do wóżków.
Thank you very much, the days when California had hard working men, sad it's gone
Logging from the forest back then was a multimillion-dollar industry as of logs turned into lumber at the sawmill and sold on the market. Nice video of logging trains.
Could someone potentally tell me the music that starts at 0:48?
Why does everyone think it necessary to ad music,and junk videos?
Nice to see the powerful locomotive from Vancouver Island Canada !
I wonder were they see today
We don't log in California anymore, we let it burn....
What was the weird, to me at least, steam loco crossing the trestle at 4:40 onward?
That was a Willamette geared locomotive. After Shay's patents ran out, the Willamette Manufacturing Co built geared locomotives for a short time. They are most distinctive because the valve chests face out instead of to the left and right as Shay Geared locomotives do.
@@warrenhaack thank you Warren.
I need to purchase a copy 📀 I live near the Sugar Pine RR and Friant RR.. but I am truly blessed indeed and thankful for our USA 🇺🇸 I am a Wyomingite from Cheyenne Wyoming USA 🇺🇸! Creasote pond clean up and so much more
Paul, you can go to www.catenaryvideo.com, to purchase on-line. If not, let me know.
For get the music, let us hear mother nature, and the eq ument, out there wise nice video.tnx
what hard hats ?
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Thank you for sharing
Уже тогда там было всё продвинуто,а в СССР на зонах лес валили , оттого такую мрачную страну и выстроили ,нет зависти к ним,но обидно за свою страну ,конец наш будет ужасен и и суды Божии начинаются с нас
A period where massive, long-lasting environmental damage occurred for getting a few big corporations rich!!
similar to todays companies
yes sure whats new
You walk in any of those areas now and except for an occasional huge stump or a rock cut and maybe a rusting piece of some abandoned machinery you'd think you were in untouched forest. It grows back and some of those places they've been logged twice since then. Don't believe any environmental group on the subject for they know nothing but the location of the nearest starbucks.
This was so bad ass cool to see these beautiful trains
Excellent narration.
Great loved this video
What is the soundtrack called?
+Dr. Jak G. Cogsworth
There's a group called "California Zephyr" who scored the music for most of my films. The tune is from their CD, "Above the Timberline".
Thank you
Which song is it in the cd?
+Weyerhaeuser Railfan
The music on this program was recorded by the band, "California Zephyr". They have scored most of my films.I believe the title to this cut is "Enough".
Do you know where I could find an instrumental version?
O passado sempre nos assombra!!!
Good stuff.
The good old days......
В настоящее время это всё работает?
Спасибо.
Totaly awesome !
Interesting times, that's for sure!
Adoro tudo sobre trens, obrigado!! Ronaldo, São Paulo/🇧🇷
Cool video
wow
That incline at the beginning.
Fascinating.
Excelente
Excelente Video.
Sad the majority of huge trees are but a memory.
cut down to fuel the housing market. they will never be replaced. loggers are miners. they mine a one time resource and the when depleted bugger off leaving society to pick up the pieces.
Not really ...they grow back, by law
It just gets me that they did not log this at such a rate that there could have been continuous jobs even today. Greed is really sad.
What's greed have to do with this??Trees grow back,the jobs are still there.I'm logging areas my dad logged years ago and I expect my grandkids to log them in the future.My part of the country there has been logging for 120 years and I see no reason that it won't continue indefinately.
Idiot, liberal politics killed the industry.
Relax, and take a deep breath. It's well known how selective cutting of trees, vice clear-cutting, benefits the land and the land-owner. Does require conscious thought and care, though. Very little is simplistically painted in black & white.
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@@HubertofLiege : heh !
Muito bom o vídeo gostei 😀
Schön,
what is the song
"Enough" by the Band, "California Zephyr".
A lot of work and hard work was a very interesting video you would never get that kind of work out of people today they want to get paid but don't want to do anyting 👍🇺🇸
men the war
Cât ati furat
I front you.see thousand year old trees behind bare mountains.Fore give them they had no idea of the long term damage they're done.
SAD
get rid of the stupid music
They were doing great until they added the "music" to the video. That's a show stopper.
Ever hear of mute?
I always hate music drowning out the trains on videos. Mute is good but this has logging sounds. I prefer sticking to the subject.
It's better when you mute it to skip the fake sound effects. Luckily, it wasn't also colorized.
No one; repeat no one can automate like those Americans!