This is mostly only faster if you are rushing 1-2 people. Rushing a full party it is not at all. Also a minor detail, char A doesn't need to kill the high council first for this to work. Skip part 1 and go directly to char B's game will work just fine. So little less time needed. :)
it was not said its faster, just that it skips the organs ;-) Anyway there are several cases in which this can be faster: - rushing with no-tele char (in hc for example) - in normal difficulty, the durance of hate maps are ridiculous small while the forest maps can be very nasty yet Of course, both skipping or getting organs, u can have more or less luck with the map... Its just good to have an alternative option, so u can decide what is better for ur situation!
@@computerz009 Because the more people you have to babysit running for the wp and from the wp. When they die, and they will, it would've been faster to find the organs. Usually.
@@jebuscrebus I hear ya. Would be interesting to see a non-teleporting rusher vs a teleporting rush though. I would guess if you're using a non-teleporting rusher it wouldn't be worth it to go find all the organs
@@computerz009 On hell diff. the Durance of Hell levels get very big and are you unlucky it will take a very long time to find the right way without teleport. But as a rusher you should easily be able to kill off any unwanted mobs along the way for the rushees to pass safely. Even with teleport you might take longer to find the 2 organs in the swamps since it's so random. I have tried finding both within 1 min. and also not found them in 3-4 min. So it really depends on the rng-sus. ;)
Ty so much for the information dude! Love your accent, just wanted to add, "Char" is short for "Char-acter" so it's pronounced like the beginning of "Character" kind of like "Car". It's not like Charizard. Will be using this to rush my alts for sockets faster, thx again.
that's a really cool workaround, thanks for sharing! i'm not sure it'd be always faster (especially nightmare/hell), but i'm curious to see people try it out
No, it is not faster, especially if you know the layout of act3 well enough to find the organs in no time. I am rushing people and even doing g-rushes, so believe me, this method is not faster to collaborate with the low levels. Maybe if you are rushing a friend over discord and you get lucky with Durance of hate 1 and 2
This is not faster for Grushes. Arduously entering and exiting games, coordinating everything is not necessarily faster. If the rusher has the wp’s and knows the map, that’s the way to go.
durance levels can be HUGE and escorting a level 1 through the entirety of it seems precarious at best.. i feel like it would require real world testing (multiple rushes) to confirm
This is agood trick to know, but your right if you got a good rusher who knows A3. Just getting the orogans will be faster. Also if there lvl 1 and your tryig to keep them alive it can waste so much time
its not really faster considering you have to kill council once make new game Walk through durance 1 then 2 then make another came then through 2 again. getting the Organs is just faster.
I mean there is another way, but someone still needs the organs. Like if some other character already has the organ-set no one else needs to collect it when they smash the orb.
I have a char that has opened Durance but hasn't killed Mephisto. I get the people I am rushing to join a game made by that character then I re-log with my rush char to walk them through to Meph.
On normal maybe that would be faster, on Nightmare or Hell with much bigger Durance of Hate layouts? I doubt it. Specially with the loading times for some people.
@@loren11111 And that's why it's faster to teleport to the organ locations after normal. Otherwise you have long load times, wait for game creation and for the client to walk to the stages.
Tbh this takes longer unless you have a terrible map roll/clueless with the maps in general. Imagine a lvl 1 slow walking in a hell game with a large durance map, then dying before snagging the wp.
I have always use thin method, for the last 20 years. I havent made act 3 sice high school. :P Btw. Act 2 also have trick, but its little more complicated and you actually need the Staff and the Amulet, just you dont need it for all characters and dont need the character to be in the game when the amulet and staff were used :P You can just enter a random game where the party is already at the Throne room and after the kill Duriel, you just speak with the folks in town and talks to meshif. I did that too during the start of the Season. The quests are still UNDONE and i still have to finish the quests in my own private game, but i am at act 3 already :P
Its a cool work around but trying to do this with a full game of people who dont know what they are doing can get annoying 🤣 i wish they would just bring back to normal
Does this make it so Character A can never take a portal into Durance though? Mephisto is a pretty popular place to farm in both NM and Hell difficulty.
very seriously......running a low level character through hell or even NM durace seems like a fucking nightmare. It'd be SOOOO much faster to just have the high level character TP around for the organs.
@@MountArreatD2R Gotta say bud - Durance is one of the most dangerous places in the game because of dolls. They're super fast and have a after death explosion. WALKING a low level with no HP and no gear is IN.SANE. Sure it might be slightly faster to do your way if the rushee doesn't die. If that low level dies once just doing act 3 quests would have been faster. ...and again it's EXTREMELY likely the a low level dies fking WALKING through Durance on NM or Hell.
finding the way through the durance also is not a great act, especially when knowing a bit about the map generation in d2.... btw it was never said its faster, just that it skips organs...in some situations it is even faster. In normal the durance maps are ridiculously small, and when not using a teleport char for a rush, like I just did in hc, it is oc faster. So knowing an alternative way let's u decide whats betterfor ur situation, what is so bad about that?
no, it always depends on situation, like characters, game mode, and so on....anyway its good to know more than one way no? maybe try not to see the things only from your own perspective....and btw, mapsense also helps getting through the durcance fast! especially in normal, the map is ridicoulously small....
Skipping ancients is another question, you do that by completing baalquest in party while ur char stands in harrogath. Thats the way how lvl 1 chars get into hell...
Think the title is a little misleading. If I'm being rushed by a friend who has Enigma on his paladin and he can't get all 3 organs within minutes then maybe he should stop using JSP and play the game a bit.
I think you just do missunderstanding..at first it never was talked abouit which way is the faster one, and indeed, it does depend on the situation. Knowing both ways lets you decide... Maybe you just should think beyond a bit ;-)
it was not said its faster, just that it skips the organs ;-) Anyway there are several cases in which this can be faster: - rushing with no-tele char (in hc for example) - in normal difficulty, the durance of hate maps are ridiculous small while the forest maps can be very nasty yet Of course, both skipping or getting organs, u can have more or less luck with the map... Its just good to have an alternative option, so u can decide what is better for ur situation!
no not done. you still can''t take someone elses tp into dura....like cow level, can enter through red portal but cannot take others tp into it unless killed baal
maybe not for hc rushes with sorc....when a java rushed my hc char this was so much faster than getting all organs.....especially in normal where the maps are ridicuously small....
I died with my lvl 88 sorcs in HC doing this. Just that walk full of exploding dwarfs is yo much... Do the Game like You should. Of course in softcore do wyw... softcore is for baby boys anyway
well, if you collected the organs, you had to walk through the durance lateron anyway when doing the game like you should.... but you should maybe respect any player, this "im am superior cuz im hc" attitude is really kinda low... My main interest in the game is pvp, I dont really care about hc but I respect it and sometimes I even play.
If you're looking to speed up a game that already takes less than 6 hours to complete, just to get to the boring farming part faster, you're missing a chromosome.
you are missing brain if you just cant imagine that different players have different focus in this game. My main interest for example is PvP, but I handle any content here. There are many different sides of the game, respect any player. If you don't agree to that, just get the f... out of here...
This is mostly only faster if you are rushing 1-2 people. Rushing a full party it is not at all.
Also a minor detail, char A doesn't need to kill the high council first for this to work. Skip part 1 and go directly to char B's game will work just fine. So little less time needed. :)
it was not said its faster, just that it skips the organs ;-)
Anyway there are several cases in which this can be faster:
- rushing with no-tele char (in hc for example)
- in normal difficulty, the durance of hate maps are ridiculous small while the forest maps can be very nasty yet
Of course, both skipping or getting organs, u can have more or less luck with the map...
Its just good to have an alternative option, so u can decide what is better for ur situation!
Why does it matter how many people you're doing this with at a time?
@@computerz009
Because the more people you have to babysit running for the wp and from the wp. When they die, and they will, it would've been faster to find the organs. Usually.
@@jebuscrebus I hear ya. Would be interesting to see a non-teleporting rusher vs a teleporting rush though. I would guess if you're using a non-teleporting rusher it wouldn't be worth it to go find all the organs
@@computerz009
On hell diff. the Durance of Hell levels get very big and are you unlucky it will take a very long time to find the right way without teleport. But as a rusher you should easily be able to kill off any unwanted mobs along the way for the rushees to pass safely.
Even with teleport you might take longer to find the 2 organs in the swamps since it's so random. I have tried finding both within 1 min. and also not found them in 3-4 min. So it really depends on the rng-sus. ;)
I really want to change my boss voices to German now. That sounds epic
xD
sounds satanic af. very nice for a diablo game.
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This is the Line from Diablo when he spawns in german. This is one off my favorite quote.
French is overrated. German underrated. Change my mind.
Thank you! My friends and I HATE act 3 and I always take a break whenever I get there, after they patched the previous workaround.
thanks for sharing this makes the rush only slightly longer now rather than obscenely longer
Ty so much for the information dude! Love your accent, just wanted to add, "Char" is short for "Char-acter" so it's pronounced like the beginning of "Character" kind of like "Car". It's not like Charizard. Will be using this to rush my alts for sockets faster, thx again.
that's a really cool workaround, thanks for sharing! i'm not sure it'd be always faster (especially nightmare/hell), but i'm curious to see people try it out
depends on char and mapluck^^
It is faster
No, it is not faster, especially if you know the layout of act3 well enough to find the organs in no time. I am rushing people and even doing g-rushes, so believe me, this method is not faster to collaborate with the low levels. Maybe if you are rushing a friend over discord and you get lucky with Durance of hate 1 and 2
yeah i rush random noobs at level 1, so the coordination piece is definitely another factor.
This is not faster for Grushes. Arduously entering and exiting games, coordinating everything is not necessarily faster. If the rusher has the wp’s and knows the map, that’s the way to go.
It’s a high risk high reward, I rush people all the time in hardcore hell there is always 1 person that dosent make the walk lol
Love your creative thinking on this method!
wow very nice, ty for this workaround. this will save so much time over dozens of rushes, thx
Running thru durance lvls 1 and 2 takes about 1/2 of time needed to collect organs so it's a bit faster.
U havent had sorc that knows what to do i guess ..
durance levels can be HUGE and escorting a level 1 through the entirety of it seems precarious at best.. i feel like it would require real world testing (multiple rushes) to confirm
This is agood trick to know, but your right if you got a good rusher who knows A3. Just getting the orogans will be faster. Also if there lvl 1 and your tryig to keep them alive it can waste so much time
its not really faster considering you have to kill council once make new game Walk through durance 1 then 2 then make another came then through 2 again. getting the Organs is just faster.
@@joshuaadkins9820 All depends on the rusher really. Do they know how the A3 layouts work. If they dont then this method is probably just faster.
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Really nice trick, thanks for sharing!
I have already figured this out weeks ago when ladder started . Video posted
It's basically the same thing just a few more steps to make it even more tedious.
Thank you for posting, very helpful.
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Not showing us the meph drop is awkwardly frustrating 😆
oh damn so sorry :/
This method is good if u only need socket rush :)
I mean there is another way, but someone still needs the organs. Like if some other character already has the organ-set no one else needs to collect it when they smash the orb.
Nice video thanks for the trick.
thx for your help!
I have a char that has opened Durance but hasn't killed Mephisto. I get the people I am rushing to join a game made by that character then I re-log with my rush char to walk them through to Meph.
On normal maybe that would be faster, on Nightmare or Hell with much bigger Durance of Hate layouts? I doubt it.
Specially with the loading times for some people.
You just look for lvl 2 and lvl 3 entrance with high char level, then run straight into it
@@loren11111 And that's why it's faster to teleport to the organ locations after normal. Otherwise you have long load times, wait for game creation and for the client to walk to the stages.
@@loren11111 And think about HC xD. Lets run through durance on Hell as low lvl everybody!
I'm not sure if this is faster than just teleporting around and doing the work for your customers. Especially in Hell mode.
Good Vid, as always. 🤟🏻😊
That’s cool! At this point my act 3 is so fast, it’s faster to collect the organs than jump games and walk durance body guarding a low lvl.
Tbh this takes longer unless you have a terrible map roll/clueless with the maps in general. Imagine a lvl 1 slow walking in a hell game with a large durance map, then dying before snagging the wp.
Well this would be a level 1 slow walking in a normal game,level 40 going through NM and level 60 in hell if you are doing it right
yeah what is fatser depends on situation! knowing both ways lets u decide what is better for ur situation =)
Damn you revealed the secret lol u know.. i used this method from day 1 :p
Nice Tip, thx a lot!
Good video. Just on the pronunciation of Flayer Jungle, it’s not “fleuer” but more similar to “fleher”
ohh sorry, thank you for correction, I still have to become more familar with speaking english =)
King moves ✊🏽✊🏽✊🏽✊🏽
I have always use thin method, for the last 20 years. I havent made act 3 sice high school.
:P
Btw. Act 2 also have trick, but its little more complicated and you actually need the Staff and the Amulet, just you dont need it for all characters and dont need the character to be in the game when the amulet and staff were used :P
You can just enter a random game where the party is already at the Throne room and after the kill Duriel, you just speak with the folks in town and talks to meshif.
I did that too during the start of the Season.
The quests are still UNDONE and i still have to finish the quests in my own private game, but i am at act 3 already :P
ty did not know about this
neat loophole- but i think running like this will be longer than just collecting all orgens;)
Especially on ps5, seeing how we can't chat and what not.
Great Video
Nice trick!
Nice find
Great skip - who found this?
Blizzard will be upset. They are determined to annoy players by the change, now they see this.
xD
well thats game mechanics, not my fault^^
Shall I make a video for blizzard about how they could fix it?^^
Probably faster to just teleport to organs with character b
Fn nice!!
Takes longer to do this than finding all the organs. Much less trying to do this with 7 people. And forget HC.
no, it depends on individual situation which way is fatser...and btw what takes longer was not asked in the video ^^
you dont have to kill council to skip organs and do meph
yeah true, I figured out later! =)
Nice work making this public so Blizzard can hotfix it :)
Its a cool work around but trying to do this with a full game of people who dont know what they are doing can get annoying 🤣 i wish they would just bring back to normal
Does this make it so Character A can never take a portal into Durance though? Mephisto is a pretty popular place to farm in both NM and Hell difficulty.
No, after killing mephisto you can also take tps furtheron, because the thrid quest automatically completes....so u only cant use tp during the rush!
It is faster if you complet the q :)))
no, depends on situation...look at other posts I answered this so often yet....
Mephisto sound way more better in whatever this language is.
haha that is german xD but there are also many sound that are much cooler in english imo....
Is the first step even necessary (to complete the 5. Quest)? Can't you just run directly to the WP in a Char B game?
hmm...good question I'll have to try ^^
I'd like to try this out
Idk, for me is faster to find organs, then all those moves
yeah, depends on situation...
very seriously......running a low level character through hell or even NM durace seems like a fucking nightmare. It'd be SOOOO much faster to just have the high level character TP around for the organs.
no, depends on situation, like I answered dozens of times before ^^
@@MountArreatD2R Gotta say bud - Durance is one of the most dangerous places in the game because of dolls. They're super fast and have a after death explosion. WALKING a low level with no HP and no gear is IN.SANE.
Sure it might be slightly faster to do your way if the rushee doesn't die. If that low level dies once just doing act 3 quests would have been faster.
...and again it's EXTREMELY likely the a low level dies fking WALKING through Durance on NM or Hell.
This trick takes longer than actually just doing the rush
no, depends on situation, like I answered dozens of times before ^^
Nice
Nice trick
dein akzent is echt hart. uff
sorry ich weiss mein englisch ist furchtbar -.-
I find all 3 organs in 5-7 minutes in norm nightmare and hell. Not that big of a deal really. Just do the quest.
finding the way through the durance also is not a great act, especially when knowing a bit about the map generation in d2....
btw it was never said its faster, just that it skips organs...in some situations it is even faster. In normal the durance maps are ridiculously small, and when not using a teleport char for a rush, like I just did in hc, it is oc faster.
So knowing an alternative way let's u decide whats betterfor ur situation, what is so bad about that?
I can get the organs fairly fast it's not hard lol and doesn't take long
depends on situation, I answered that so many times yet lol....come out of your prespective ^^
I think navigating act 3 map in general is the worst thing ever. I think id give that a try.
yeah especially when not having teleport yet this is helpful!
thanks i guess... still sucks you can´t do it the old way.
Da hätte man auch selbst drauf kommen können
noice
Why NadeKing making videos about Diablo? 😂😂😂
With map assist (maphack) collecting organs takes an extra 3min on a rush. Faster! :)
Not everybody uses hacks....
Using my packet based auto tele goes even faster. At the organ around when the loading screen finishes.
this is slower, if you have a little bit mapsense
no, it always depends on situation, like characters, game mode, and so on....anyway its good to know more than one way no? maybe try not to see the things only from your own perspective....and btw, mapsense also helps getting through the durcance fast! especially in normal, the map is ridicoulously small....
Does this work with skipping ancients as well?
Skipping ancients is another question, you do that by completing baalquest in party while ur char stands in harrogath. Thats the way how lvl 1 chars get into hell...
You need a "bumper" it's called I believe
Think the title is a little misleading. If I'm being rushed by a friend who has Enigma on his paladin and he can't get all 3 organs within minutes then maybe he should stop using JSP and play the game a bit.
I think you just do missunderstanding..at first it never was talked abouit which way is the faster one, and indeed, it does depend on the situation. Knowing both ways lets you decide...
Maybe you just should think beyond a bit ;-)
mephisto redet deutsch aber am schluss sagt der pala c`mon 😮
ja ich nutze die gameplay-aufnahmen aus den deutschen videos....teilweise aber auch umgekehrt....alles was wichtig ist ist in der korrekten sprache ^^
German bosses ftw.
collect organs would be faster
no, depends on situation. In answered this so often yet, if u wanna know look at the other posts ^^
ehh seems like more work than finding the organs 🤷♀
it was not said its faster, just that it skips the organs ;-)
Anyway there are several cases in which this can be faster:
- rushing with no-tele char (in hc for example)
- in normal difficulty, the durance of hate maps are ridiculous small while the forest maps can be very nasty yet
Of course, both skipping or getting organs, u can have more or less luck with the map...
Its just good to have an alternative option, so u can decide what is better for ur situation!
Sneaky :)
Once you walk into Durance of Hate 1, tp back to town and ask rusher to open to WP. Done, no need to walk
no not done. you still can''t take someone elses tp into dura....like cow level, can enter through red portal but cannot take others tp into it unless killed baal
Or you could just get the organs and save time KEKW
well I think it depands on the player and the char which way is faster...and on map luck. Go get the organs if u like, noone will stop you lol ;-)
wow really great, you can do the organs right away is faster and easier OMG And another "episode" waste of time with Mount Arreat
cool trick, but this will take longer than jst getting organs lol xD
depends a bit on map and char...but in normal the way through the durance is way shorter than looking for organs....
Exploit fixed next patch
*Sigh* You realize Blizzard is going to stop this glitch next right?
yeah probably...why?
No need
Not good for HC Rushes xD
maybe not for hc rushes with sorc....when a java rushed my hc char this was so much faster than getting all organs.....especially in normal where the maps are ridicuously small....
LOL and yes it's faster
Take this down! They going to fix it!!!
yeah probably...but why should that be a reason to take it down?!
Wieso redest du jetzt Englisch
Warum nicht?
Sry but i am faster even with this trick u need to quit so many times then i allrdy tped
depends on situation...like I answered dozen times before ^^
I died with my lvl 88 sorcs in HC doing this. Just that walk full of exploding dwarfs is yo much...
Do the Game like You should.
Of course in softcore do wyw... softcore is for baby boys anyway
well, if you collected the organs, you had to walk through the durance lateron anyway when doing the game like you should....
but you should maybe respect any player, this "im am superior cuz im hc" attitude is really kinda low...
My main interest in the game is pvp, I dont really care about hc but I respect it and sometimes I even play.
Dude your mephisto speeks weird.
yeah he speaks german sorry xD
he says "Meine Brüder sind dir entkommen!" =)
If you're looking to speed up a game that already takes less than 6 hours to complete, just to get to the boring farming part faster, you're missing a chromosome.
you are missing brain if you just cant imagine that different players have different focus in this game.
My main interest for example is PvP, but I handle any content here.
There are many different sides of the game, respect any player.
If you don't agree to that, just get the f... out of here...
Awful english man. But good trick
sorry bro I did not speak english too much since I was in school, mybe I'll improve over time ^^
That's hell of lot more effort