And hardly anyone remembers when Wes was named in #37 in the best guitarist of all time, don’t remember who put that out. Honestly I think he’s way underrated but 37 out of all? nah, but definitely somewhere in the top 100
@@youknowimright.3137 in comparison to most rappers he can sing far better. Dont judge a Single skill, look at the bigger picture. Bizkit was a phenomenon, so unique that no other Band could achieve it, not like most "skilled" rappers. Tbh they are replacable thats why the music industry pushed rap for decades.
@@PARISONFIRE Im just saying hes not that great at rapping .... Yes hes good at creating hooks. I'll admit the lyrics for Re-arranged was surprisingly great. His singing ... its not terrible its not great either. But when it comes to musically with the 5 guys ... he's on the bottom of the totem pole. Now business-wise oh yeah hes great.
John Otto is also a seriously underrated drummer, he puts work into those songs. Sam rivers also is an amazingly brilliant bassist. Not many people know how legendary dj lethal is, also stupidly underrated. Fred is Fred, but without Fred, limp bizkit wouldn’t exist.
I agree- they are all dope at what they do- Wes is still a cut above the rest. I also found it awesome that while they were the hottest band at one point, Wes was still like “nah, I want to wear a bunny costume on stage” lol. But he’s incredibly talented on the guitar
@@clothbooster sure it is, Fred is an incredible frontman, but you can kind of understand why people don't like him. He was basically a douchebag character that he created, his lyrics weren't always good. I sometimes think people don't look at limp bizkit the way they should
To be honest, most lyrics are tongue in cheek/sarcastic..but people not even spot this if you would shove it into their face and take it way too seriously. Also still "blaming" them for Woodstock, because media told them so and the same people have no clue how a disaster that festival was anyways or ride a Zakk Wylde bandwagon because of one interview. 😂 Los Angeles and Show Me What You Got are a glorious example, that seems to trigger still today a lot of people if their glorious city is mentioned.
@@mikoajsroczek7202 there’s a lot of popular rock band with average or even below average lyrics. What’s funny is he wasn’t looked at has a terrible song writer until after the media turned on him. Most fans really just repeat what everyone else is saying to fit in
People hate on Fred but don’t forget he was made VP of interscope records. Before the media turned on him the mainstream take was Fred is everything you need in a great frontman as the industry had changed. Voice and ability to sing wasn’t as important as it once was. Instead you needed someone who was polarizing, that was intelligent when dealing with the media and fans. Not to mention Limp Bizkit is proof that 90% of so called fans are band wagon followers. They don’t really have an opinion of their own. They simply listen to whatever the influencers of the era tell them to
Fred has some of the best voice control of any vocalist out there. The way he can start to scream or screech then turn it off instantly isn’t an easy thing to do.
bruh even the famous distorted riffs are perfect imo. they're literally the definition of less is more and all of them find this perfect rhythmic pocket that makes you want to move. like nookie is two notes and its such a sophisticated riff with how the rhythmic bounce shifts around when he plays the hi notes in different accents
I saw the Summer Sanitarium Tour in 2003. LB were the true stars of the show. I have never seen a stadium bounce like I did that show… for the WHOLE SET!!! I was exhausted 🤘
They get hated on but everyone, and I mean everyone, was listening to their music when it came out. They had a major influence on the music industry, even if people won’t admit it now a days.
During the pandemic, I started watching lotta UA-cam and I came across a live set of Limp Bizkit at Hell Fest, and I got to say it was probably one of the most awesome shows I’ve seen. The groove that they had was incredible.
Wes is so influential to me he's a pioneer of artistry both visual and musical, so original n riffs that r as brutal as the cleans are silky n hypnotic, id love to jam with him it's a dream but u never know ..1 day ..
All of his shit is well written and have a lot of complexity with tone etc. Plus they are just extremely original and he shreds the shit out of everything he plays. Dude is mind blowing.
The number 1 limp bizkit song I'd tell anyone to listen that perfectly showcases how awesome of a guitarist wes borland is the song my way. Wes Borland's guitar riffs in that song are insanely awesome. 💯🔥🤘🤘
Don't forget Mike Smith, he was the replacement for Wes on there album Results May Vary (which is my favorite album), he was the best replacement for Wes and he did a damn good job, also there bass player Sam Rivers did guitar work on Results May Vary for tracks like Creamer (Radio Is Dead), Lonely World, and Down Another Day.
Even the distorted parts are imaginative. If you compare to other bands from the same sort of genre he actually begins to look like an avant garde genius.
Sam is also an amazing bass player and John is really tight drummer too. I’m glad more videos have been coming out acknowledging the talent in the band.
I completely agree with this as a guitarist, even Dimebag Darrell was seen rocking out to Wes Borland in the front row of one of their concerts and he's probably one of the most influential metal guitarist of all time, if Dime approves so do I 🤘
I love when people are like “these riffs were actually really good” like yeah no shit maybe thats why they were at the top of the charts for multiple years
Big fan of Limpbizkit since 1990s My interest was the music videos, Choreography and words to their songs. They got me through some tough times. Was sad when Wes left but they made it work without him. ❤
I’ve always agreed on this. Wes borland has always been a huge influence on me playing guitar ever since I was very young his clear tone/reverb parts always hit different especially when you play them yourself with proper equipment
Wes Borland is one of the reasons I play guitar to this day since I was 13. I’ve loved his style and he is massively. If you ever heard him in other some of his other work he is massively talented.
I'm music degree level in terms of knowledge and experience and you're absolutely right - I just discovered Wes recently and I'm liberated by his artistic take on everything, he has a freedom few have!
Everybody in Limp Bizkit (except for Fred like you mentioned), is actually very underrated. Even DJ Lethal, who added so much to the band by basically being a "second guitarist" with his turntable
Saw them in 2010. Was blown away that a band could sound and look that good. Great music, great albums. I think Fred is involved in the song structure/pacing too, as well as doing the actual lyrics.
I'm from Jacksonville. I seen limp Bizkit at the milk bar a couple times back in 96. I remember talking to wes upstairs and remember what a nice guy he was. We knew they were about to blow up
The one song Damning Well did for the Underworld soundtrack made me appreciate Wes's playing. Im a super casual when it comes to this stuff, but I love that song.
Anyone who plays guitar knows Wes is a badass. Are his riffs crazy difficult? No, but you probably couldn’t make it “sound” like him because he plays with so much attitude and charisma
Wes is probably the most underrated guitarist.
I firmly believe he is one of the best of all time.
Agreed.
And hardly anyone remembers when Wes was named in #37 in the best guitarist of all time, don’t remember who put that out. Honestly I think he’s way underrated but 37 out of all? nah, but definitely somewhere in the top 100
Well that's absurd but your sentiment is decent
🤘🏽
100
i don't think anyone in the "guitar community" would deny Wes being an amazing guitarist
He thought he had a hot take 😂
@lol-zp1pssure, but the consensus is he's is a great guitar player.
@lol-zp1ps hence my clarification of both of your reductive takes.. .
Facts
Exactly!
i dont understand all that bad fred talk. this guy was a workhorse and materialized limp bizkit out of the ashes and im thankful for that. love u fred
True but when it comes to rapping ... he's lyrically terrible.
@@youknowimright.3137 ofc i cant speak for him but im Sure the goal for bizkit was to be simple and hooky. Raw in a sense and that was achieved surely
@@PARISONFIRE True ... but compare him to most rappers ... he's at a low level.
@@youknowimright.3137 in comparison to most rappers he can sing far better. Dont judge a Single skill, look at the bigger picture. Bizkit was a phenomenon, so unique that no other Band could achieve it, not like most "skilled" rappers. Tbh they are replacable thats why the music industry pushed rap for decades.
@@PARISONFIRE Im just saying hes not that great at rapping .... Yes hes good at creating hooks. I'll admit the lyrics for Re-arranged was surprisingly great. His singing ... its not terrible its not great either. But when it comes to musically with the 5 guys ... he's on the bottom of the totem pole. Now business-wise oh yeah hes great.
John Otto is also a seriously underrated drummer, he puts work into those songs.
Sam rivers also is an amazingly brilliant bassist.
Not many people know how legendary dj lethal is, also stupidly underrated.
Fred is Fred, but without Fred, limp bizkit wouldn’t exist.
The whole lineup slaps and are overlooked for whatever reason.
The bass on "The One" is damn near amazing. Really technically proficient band.
Would you people stop using the freakin word “underrated?” I swear that word liters every YT comment section
I agree- they are all dope at what they do- Wes is still a cut above the rest. I also found it awesome that while they were the hottest band at one point, Wes was still like “nah, I want to wear a bunny costume on stage” lol. But he’s incredibly talented on the guitar
@@Glitchfaction Underrated point of view imo
Nobody will be pissed, Wes is overlooked not underrated imo. I don’t think People hate him or gis riffs at all, it’s just Fred
The hate against Fred is completely imbecile. Wes would be nothing without Fred and limpbizkit.
@@clothbooster sure it is, Fred is an incredible frontman, but you can kind of understand why people don't like him. He was basically a douchebag character that he created, his lyrics weren't always good. I sometimes think people don't look at limp bizkit the way they should
To be honest, most lyrics are tongue in cheek/sarcastic..but people not even spot this if you would shove it into their face and take it way too seriously. Also still "blaming" them for Woodstock, because media told them so and the same people have no clue how a disaster that festival was anyways or ride a Zakk Wylde bandwagon because of one interview. 😂
Los Angeles and Show Me What You Got are a glorious example, that seems to trigger still today a lot of people if their glorious city is mentioned.
@@mikoajsroczek7202 there’s a lot of popular rock band with average or even below average lyrics. What’s funny is he wasn’t looked at has a terrible song writer until after the media turned on him. Most fans really just repeat what everyone else is saying to fit in
@@mikoajsroczek7202 I feel like a lot of people take Limp Bizkit waaaayyyy too seriously and they're not intended to be taken seriously
Wes Borland has a sound unlike any other guitarist. It’s magical sounding.
People hate on Fred but don’t forget he was made VP of interscope records. Before the media turned on him the mainstream take was Fred is everything you need in a great frontman as the industry had changed. Voice and ability to sing wasn’t as important as it once was. Instead you needed someone who was polarizing, that was intelligent when dealing with the media and fans. Not to mention Limp Bizkit is proof that 90% of so called fans are band wagon followers. They don’t really have an opinion of their own. They simply listen to whatever the influencers of the era tell them to
Hear hear 🍻
Damn this is a good take, it’s amazing to think about back then and just how big Limp Bizkit really was
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Fred has some of the best voice control of any vocalist out there. The way he can start to scream or screech then turn it off instantly isn’t an easy thing to do.
Without Fred we wouldn’t have Staind 🤘
bruh even the famous distorted riffs are perfect imo. they're literally the definition of less is more and all of them find this perfect rhythmic pocket that makes you want to move. like nookie is two notes and its such a sophisticated riff with how the rhythmic bounce shifts around when he plays the hi notes in different accents
Limp Bizkit is one hell of a band.
Almost had Kerry king quitting for a hot second 😂
They are definitely one of the bands of all time.
I saw the Summer Sanitarium Tour in 2003. LB were the true stars of the show. I have never seen a stadium bounce like I did that show… for the WHOLE SET!!! I was exhausted 🤘
A fuckin men to that
@greenhandgeezer Amen Brother
Wes is a legend. Sam and John are top shelf.
Fred is the man that brings it all together and makes it happen
Completely
agreed
They get hated on but everyone, and I mean everyone, was listening to their music when it came out. They had a major influence on the music industry, even if people won’t admit it now a days.
Limp Bizkit has a plethora of genuinely awesome musicians
The more I learn about Wes, the more impressed I become with his writing and playing. Much respect to that dude!
Been sayin for years that dude is underrated as fuck. He's written some pretty wicked shit. 👍
During the pandemic, I started watching lotta UA-cam and I came across a live set of Limp Bizkit at Hell Fest, and I got to say it was probably one of the most awesome shows I’ve seen. The groove that they had was incredible.
Re-Arranged is the best Limp Bizkit Song
I could not agree more! Wes Borland is very talented indeed….
Listen to their instrumentals the band plays so well together.
People hate on Fred, but jammed his shot as loud as possible back in the day
Wes is universally loved. The whole band is good, their chemistry as a group is unmatched. No band has a tighter groove than Limp Bizkit
Idc how impressive it is, I care about how well written it is
Wes is a beast!! They tore through the 90’s and their songs hold up!
Wes is so influential to me he's a pioneer of artistry both visual and musical, so original n riffs that r as brutal as the cleans are silky n hypnotic, id love to jam with him it's a dream but u never know ..1 day ..
All of his shit is well written and have a lot of complexity with tone etc. Plus they are just extremely original and he shreds the shit out of everything he plays. Dude is mind blowing.
The number 1 limp bizkit song I'd tell anyone to listen that perfectly showcases how awesome of a guitarist wes borland is the song my way. Wes Borland's guitar riffs in that song are insanely awesome. 💯🔥🤘🤘
Don't forget Mike Smith, he was the replacement for Wes on there album Results May Vary (which is my favorite album), he was the best replacement for Wes and he did a damn good job, also there bass player Sam Rivers did guitar work on Results May Vary for tracks like Creamer (Radio Is Dead), Lonely World, and Down Another Day.
Interesting opinion
Nah. Wes is superior. Mike smith it’s great but he’s no wes
Sam Rivers is vastly under rated/ under appreciated.
I don't hear what is so good about Mike Smith. All he does is overload on hammer-ons and pull-offs... thats it.
I also love that album.
I love wes. He's badass as fuck
Its gonna be okay has some of the best “clean” effects ever.
he def has his own style and seems like a cool dude. Haven’t listen to LB in 25 years or so but I like Wes.
He's got some incredible riffs for sure. The main riff of Sour is nuts. Love when he utilizes tapping like that.
You’re tripping. Guitar community LOVES Wes
Wes played exactly what worked. Which is freaking hard to do.
Livin it up is one of the dopest guitar tracks
The Bizkit is awesome: hands down. Borlan is absolutely incredible. Very talented
Even the distorted parts are imaginative. If you compare to other bands from the same sort of genre he actually begins to look like an avant garde genius.
Wes Borland has always been brilliant.
Wes is the reason 2020’s metalcore guitar sounds the way it does
He’s tight dawg I never could get into limpbizkit but I seen them live this year and couldn’t take my eyes off Wes after the first songs he’s killer
Fuck yea he’s amazing, wish he stayed in bizkit
Sam is also an amazing bass player and John is really tight drummer too. I’m glad more videos have been coming out acknowledging the talent in the band.
I completely agree with this as a guitarist, even Dimebag Darrell was seen rocking out to Wes Borland in the front row of one of their concerts and he's probably one of the most influential metal guitarist of all time, if Dime approves so do I 🤘
For real! The “out of style” riff is so sick
wes borland is one of the most underrated guitarists of all time. agree whole heartedly. the intro to build a bridge goes hard
I love when people are like “these riffs were actually really good” like yeah no shit maybe thats why they were at the top of the charts for multiple years
AND his commitment every show to his showmanship in dressing up differently goes a long way too. 👍
I love the OOOOHohHo in the beginning 😂
I still think the verse melody in "My Way" is one of my favourite little riffs.
Big fan of Limpbizkit since 1990s
My interest was the music videos, Choreography and words to their songs. They got me through some tough times. Was sad when Wes left but they made it work without him.
❤
love wes
I’ve always agreed on this. Wes borland has always been a huge influence on me playing guitar ever since I was very young his clear tone/reverb parts always hit different especially when you play them yourself with proper equipment
He’s also one of the most underrated bass players, and producers.
wes’ plucking in the later parts of chocolate starfish actually got me interested in psychedelic
he’s unique for sure. cool parts everywhere on all their albums he’s on. plus his stage makeup and all that…come on haha nobody goes that hard 😂
Sam Rivers actually wrote some cool lines to compliment Wes’ rhythmic riffs
John Otto is also VERY underrated
He's insanely underrated
Wes Borland is one of the reasons I play guitar to this day since I was 13. I’ve loved his style and he is massively.
If you ever heard him in other some of his other work he is massively talented.
I'm music degree level in terms of knowledge and experience and you're absolutely right - I just discovered Wes recently and I'm liberated by his artistic take on everything, he has a freedom few have!
Yep. Just started to get into learning some Wes riffs his last week. 👌
Also the distorted parts are killer 😂
Wes is one of my favorites, I don’t think he’s overrated at all many people love his work
The whole band is legit good man.
Wes' music outside of Limp Bizkit are worth a listen. Also a collaboration with Danny Elfman? Yeah, Wes is a powerhouse.
He can/could go from distortion overload chords to clean licks in a heartbeat
Everybody in Limp Bizkit (except for Fred like you mentioned), is actually very underrated. Even DJ Lethal, who added so much to the band by basically being a "second guitarist" with his turntable
People only hate on Limp Bizkit because they ain’t Limp Bizkit. Look at their concerts man. They’re one of the greats.
Saw them in 2010. Was blown away that a band could sound and look that good. Great music, great albums. I think Fred is involved in the song structure/pacing too, as well as doing the actual lyrics.
The band was world class. THE BAND. 🤌🏽🤌🏽
guys right. and the easy riffs are catchy and make the songs memorable so
Sam Rivers is a fuckin beast. That bass be chonky.
Wes is a beast. He wrote some seriously badass riffs that have been stuck in my head for so so long.
Wes is incredibly artistic in so many ways. He even does his own makeup. Very creative guy and best of all he is really effing cool 😎
Doesn't make me mad at all. Always loved Wes's style.
i personally dislike that he only likes the clean parts, i feel like the distorted riffs on 3dby are the most well written
Wes is truly a really awesome sweet person. Got to meet him along time ago before LB ever left Jville back in the old Milk Bar days.
I'm from Jacksonville. I seen limp Bizkit at the milk bar a couple times back in 96. I remember talking to wes upstairs and remember what a nice guy he was. We knew they were about to blow up
I think anyone who actually plays metal guitar knows Wes is an insane and talented riff writer
Limp Bizkit achieved what most musicians can dream of, a generational sound
Sam on bass too! He's basslines are actually beautiful and unique
Wes was terribly underrated
I love Wes! I love Limp Bizkit! I even love Fred!
Nah Wes was hard bro😂😂😂 I'll die on this hill alone if need be😂😂😂
His taping riffs are tasty AF
I already knew that Wes was one of the best
I started playing bass when I was 12 because I saw Wes playing his 4 string. I quickly realized he was the guitarist and picked up a guitar asap.
100 % agreed . He is a solid and very creative player.
Fred turning on Eminem was the beginning of the end for Limp Bizkit
I love this guitarist so much ♥️♥️♥️
Wes is a gem ngl
Agreed. For second I thought your hot take was Wes Borland sucks.
Sam Rivers is a underrated bass player, that rearrange bass riff is one of the best
He makes some freaky sounds he has to be the best guitarist I have ever seen and heard
Limp bizkit are like Primus you either love them or hate them
No yeah for real.
He was also very visually creative as well. His costumes stood out alot from the rest of the band
Of course wes is awesome, helmet is one of his biggest influences
The one song Damning Well did for the Underworld soundtrack made me appreciate Wes's playing. Im a super casual when it comes to this stuff, but I love that song.
fred aint that fred anymore
His whammy bar stuff is pretty kewl too
Bands like spiritbox reference wes as a major influence.
Anyone who plays guitar knows Wes is a badass. Are his riffs crazy difficult? No, but you probably couldn’t make it “sound” like him because he plays with so much attitude and charisma
You’re damn right he is. Excellent guitar player.