Jimmy Savile's Biographer Dan Davies Interview How Did Savile Hide In Plain Sight? The Reckoning BBC

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  • @shaunattwoodOFFICIAL
    @shaunattwoodOFFICIAL  Рік тому +17

    Watch UNTOUCHABLE - Jimmy Savile: ua-cam.com/video/6zCOix1iTvg/v-deo.html
    Watch our full Savile interview with Mark Williams Thomas: ua-cam.com/video/hnJKZwQ4DzE/v-deo.html
    Dan Davies: Book: www.amazon.com/Plain-Sight-Life-Jimmy-Savile/dp/1782067434
    The Guardian: www.theguardian.com/profile/dandavies
    This documentary for an online audience examines how one of Britain's most prolific offenders engineered his career and lifestyle to escape detection from the authorities for over sixty years.
    Over 4 years, this documentary was produced by Shaun Attwood with Underground Films.
    Underground Films website: www.undergroundfilms.co.uk/
    Watch UNTOUCHABLE full unedited documentary on Vimeo: vimeo.com/ondemand/savileuntouchable
    The Vimeo version includes option for David I's Savile contributions.
    UNTOUCHABLE Music by Michael Baugh
    www.michaelbaugh.co.uk
    UNTOUCHABLE includes:
    Kelly Gold (friend of Top of the Pops suicide victim)
    Mark Williams-Thomas (ex-cop) www.williams-thomas.co.uk/
    Christian Wolmer (author) www.christianwolmar.co.uk/
    Stephen French (author/activist)
    Matthew Steeples (author/activist) www.thesteepletimes.com/
    Mark Coster aka Boris www.broadmoorsinister.co.uk/
    Christopher Berry-Dee (author) www.christopherberrydee.com/
    Jason Farrell (senior political correspondent) www.bitebackpublishing.com/authors/jason-farrell
    Dr Sohom Das (psychiatrist) ua-cam.com/users/APsychForSoreMinds
    Alan Merritt (activist) facebook.com/alan.merritt.96

    • @chriskessell4579
      @chriskessell4579 Рік тому

      Has anyone else said their thumbs up have been removed ?

    • @sharpgage6512
      @sharpgage6512 Рік тому +1

      im sorry to say he didnt hide in plain sight. tons of people knew but just didnt do anything. we have a love of super heros in comic books, we love the heros in movies going up agaist impossible odds and winning agaist wrong doers, we love these icons of justice and movie heros cause there brave and willing to risk there lives to stand up for whats right, there what we all wish we were or could be but arnt. fear and cowadance in everyone else was the only thing hidden in plain sight. but thats a very uncomfatble truth for people to admit to themselfs let alone to anyone else. no one had it in them to lead the fight come what may, there was no hero. just people that looked the other way pretending thay didnt see. jimmy would of known this about people.

  • @terrygoldsmith335
    @terrygoldsmith335 Рік тому +52

    Yorkshire Police need to be held to account. Both Surrey and the Metropolitan Police shared concerns about Saville to them and both times they said they received no intelligence.

    • @nickbarber2080
      @nickbarber2080 Рік тому

      He had W Yorks Police wound round his finger.
      They were protecting him...

    • @Nautilus1972
      @Nautilus1972 Рік тому +9

      Also the NHS.

    • @darrionrobson8004
      @darrionrobson8004 8 місяців тому +7

      I worked at West Yorkshire HQ, and was aware the highest ranking officer (Chief Constable) and an Assistant Chief Constable were regulars to his flat for 'Friday tea'. So very true to say he had friends in high places both inside and outside the police force

    • @volpeverde6441
      @volpeverde6441 7 місяців тому +2

      all covered up....
      police/politicians/royal family/T.V./hospitals/prisons....

    • @stephenchamberlain4245
      @stephenchamberlain4245 7 місяців тому +2

      What happened at ' Friday tea '?

  • @tog2842
    @tog2842 Рік тому +146

    The whole "celebrity worship" phenomena is a sickness in society.
    We should be celebrating science, humanitarians and others who would lead to a healthier, more balanced society.

    • @bobjames6622
      @bobjames6622 Рік тому +11

      Spot on!

    • @franklin7387
      @franklin7387 Рік тому +16

      "Science" 🤣 Take another booster why dont you

    • @tog2842
      @tog2842 Рік тому +25

      @franklin7387 Yes Frank, Science. Not exploitative manipulation of untested drugs. Now get back to Love Island mate, they are missing you.

    • @fullspeedaheadbarcelona6502
      @fullspeedaheadbarcelona6502 Рік тому +4

      Exactly mate!

    • @jonathanmonck-mason6715
      @jonathanmonck-mason6715 Рік тому +7

      Absolutely. I lived in Leeds in the 1970s just a few hundred yards from Jimmy Savile. I too was one of tens of thousands of people interviewed about the Yorkshire Ripper. I knew about Savile's career at Radio Luxembourg, Top of the Pops, Jim'll Fix It. I think I had even heard rumors about necrophilia, but guess what? I didn't have the slightest interest in him. After all, he was my dad's age.

  • @angehockenhull3057
    @angehockenhull3057 Рік тому +97

    All this just goes to show how stupid we are by putting our worth and trust on famous people😮

    • @pattieboyd2832
      @pattieboyd2832 Рік тому

      The media just seems to be there for using the celeb industry to dumb down society, appealing to types who read celeb magazines, dreaming of meeting a rich man as thick as they are like a tattoo necked footballer, who would want a cheap looking orange woman. Who then makes a living selling dumb stories about their designer handbag they can't pronounce the name of, and sell their children into the talentless celeb industry to use for their own attention. Then the meaning of style is lowered to orange women with an obvious fake chest they like showing off, and sometimes they're promoted as a fashion designer despite never spending a day working in or studying the industry.
      Even if the footballer such as Beck'am never wins anything as too busy using his highly paid job to be Kard' type talentless celeb , he will think he's owed a Knighthood for hanging around royalty at charity events. They often expect to have more attention in events like Olympics, above the ones winning medals.

    • @sarahholland2600
      @sarahholland2600 Рік тому +11

      I was a child when he was a big celeb. People back then were far more naive tbh. My Dad, a very no nonsense bloke, who was v good at sussing dodgy people , didnt like us watching Jim'll Fix It & used to say Saville was a total weirdo. Everyone else would say, oh no he's just eccentric, look at how much he does for charity etc.

    • @paulkitchen1846
      @paulkitchen1846 Рік тому +9

      Even if the majority of people didn't trust him or others, the media manipulation would get you believing the opposite.

    • @mandychadwick8762
      @mandychadwick8762 Рік тому +6

      How stupid ‘ we are ‘ ? If only life was so simple
      So many didn’t trust him but he had the backing of so many unscrupulous characters

    • @madiclegg3690
      @madiclegg3690 Рік тому +2

      I never have and don't understand why people do. It's beyond stupid

  • @nichhodge8503
    @nichhodge8503 Рік тому +77

    I watched The Reckoning on the BBC iPlayer and really enjoyed it and Steve Coogan’s performance as Jimmy Savile was absolutely brilliant and the lady who played as Margaret Thatcher got her voice and actions down to a tee as well

    • @jettjones9889
      @jettjones9889 Рік тому

      Coogan is an unbearable leftist loon.

    • @saraheatonwriter
      @saraheatonwriter Рік тому +17

      Coogan was fantastic. You forget you're not looking at Saville himself. It was very brave of him to take on this role.

    • @rogfusionkid
      @rogfusionkid Рік тому +6

      ​@@saraheatonwriterYes there were only a couple of moments where I could immediately see it was Coogan he's just elevated his acting career.

    • @shojaejlali1290
      @shojaejlali1290 Рік тому +4

      The reckoning was terrible. Nothing interesting or new there. They had a fantastic opportunity to tell the real untold story about Savile but they swerved it. How did Savile get away with it for years? Who was protecting him and why? The reckoning instead tried to make Savile life out to be as pathetic and guilt ridden as possible to perhaps try and give the victims some relief by saying "look at jimmy...look how sad and lonely he is...look he's full of guilt and gods going to punish him for eternity!" 😂 the truth is that Savile had a very successful life,yes he was a bachelor but he had women who slept with him willingly too! Not all Savile sexual encounters were abuse. And at the end of the day the real story was he got away with it. And he had a successful life. That's the real tragedy
      He was probably a psychopath and if so he didn't feel any Catholic guilt or remorse. I imagine he slept very soundly at night. That's the horror. He won! As for god punishing him...cmon. if people want to believe that then so be it. I think the Savile story needs to be honest the reckoning wasn't honest at all. As for Steve Coogan performance I felt like I was listening to Alan partridge with a blonde wig on. I give it a 3 out of ten. Very disappointing 😢

    • @davidhenderson9707
      @davidhenderson9707 Рік тому

      @@shojaejlali1290exactly I haven’t seen it yet (live abroad) but it appears to be revisionist history and takes the narrative away from the elites he was procuring for on Jersey.

  • @zeddeka
    @zeddeka 7 місяців тому +23

    Saville's story is really the 20th century on trial. He got away with it because it was the era of the dirty old man, which was thought to be humourous and often celebrated in characters like Sid James in the Carry on Films, Benny Hill, old Mr Grace in "Are you being served" and a million other sit com characters. In the 80s, the film Rita, Sue & Bob too turned the story of a predatory older man into a comedy. Teenagers like Samantha Fox were shown topless on page 3 together with appalling sexualised commentary and as late as 1994, The Sunday Sport held a countdown until a girl turned 16 when they could show her topless. The law wasn't changed until several years later.

    • @tomhollandroberts1737
      @tomhollandroberts1737 4 місяці тому +1

      Surely you mean "Shit Com" and not Sit Com. ???

    • @วาสนาสิงหานุวงศ์
      @วาสนาสิงหานุวงศ์ 3 місяці тому +2

      Absolutely spot on it was the era of the dirty old man. Brilliant analogy and some well thought out examples nice one 👍

    • @cutekanjii
      @cutekanjii 3 місяці тому

      Well theres an argument in a stricter sexualy society and culture where all that is frowned upon actually Increases the amount of abuse since the sexual openess is repressed and because its seen as"dirty" it goes unreported. Whereas in a freeze more secually open society like page 3 being the norm and all the ladies men running around grabbing asses in comedy films etc. There's less assaults etc as the subjects more out in the open not as big a deal

    • @cbarclay99
      @cbarclay99 5 днів тому

      It was also the era when children born outside marriage or from broken families or even just dysfunctional families were seen as not worthy of protection from sexual abuse. The result was that sexual abuse was the norm not the exception in children's homes until they were closed down around 1990.

    • @cbarclay99
      @cbarclay99 5 днів тому

      @@cutekanjii A good point. When I was at school, children would be punished for making an accusation against a teacher, because it was unacceptable to even suggest that a teacher was homosexual let alone that s/he was a pedofile. This was after the legalisation of homosexuality, but when there was still huge stigma against homosexuals.

  • @TheROLLER1953
    @TheROLLER1953 Рік тому +39

    Just Goes to show , that if you Give the " correct handshake" , then you are free to do whatever you want.

  • @honeysuckle4537
    @honeysuckle4537 10 місяців тому +10

    FINK DAN DAVIS IS HIGHLY SKILLED REPORTER, DONE HIS HOMEWORK, A BOOK WORTH BUYING CONTAINING ALL FACTS ❤❤❤❤

  • @Stayinyourownlane1970
    @Stayinyourownlane1970 Рік тому +62

    I met him at the RM base in Lympstone. I was visiting my partner and had my 3 year old with me. He wanted her to sit on his lap. I wouldn't let her. He was so creepy looking. He literally made my skin crawl.

    • @hanginlaundry360
      @hanginlaundry360 Рік тому +16

      I can imagine!!! Thank God you kept her away!!!

    • @lujinahjfairi3760
      @lujinahjfairi3760 Рік тому +13

      That was a triumphant moment for your intuition.

    • @karenperkins6744
      @karenperkins6744 Рік тому +15

      I met his brother Vince, when my 4 boys were small, and believe you me, he gave me the exact same feelings! I kept my kids well away from him! It seems his other brother Johnnie (I think that's his name) apparently, was exactly the same, yet, not much is actually said about them! But Vince was just as creepy as Jimmy was in my opinion!

    • @lorimiller4301
      @lorimiller4301 Рік тому +10

      Thought I heard that one of his brothers was arrested for the same type of crime ?!
      Never hear about his father though ?!

    • @annodomini7250
      @annodomini7250 Рік тому +3

      I love people who met Savile, they are so special...

  • @theresapierce3934
    @theresapierce3934 Рік тому +24

    He got away with it because he was a procurer for others.

  • @mewpertybewtox7887
    @mewpertybewtox7887 Рік тому +118

    Given the very similar criminal behaviour of jimmy and his two brothers, I wonder if all three were abused as children. And since Savile would never discuss his father, could there have been something going on there…?

    • @sarahholland2600
      @sarahholland2600 Рік тому +40

      Exactly. Way back, he did a radio interview with a Psychiatrist who did a very popular series, "In the Psychiatrist's Chair", interviewing celebs. It's on You Tube. It's really noticeable that as soon as Saville's Dad is mentioned, his voice suddenly speeds right up, gets very much higher & he changes the subject as fast as possible. As an ex teacher, I really feel that 3 children out of 7 becoming s*x offenders is a massive red flag re abuse. Even in interviews with his Mum that I've seen, , Saville openly says to her, "You didn't want me". She doesn't protest very much that she did, saying "Once I knew, I did". So he was not planned was my take: & prob not that wanted either.

    • @serendpity3478
      @serendpity3478 Рік тому

      It was his disgusting old mother.

    • @melbournegirl7
      @melbournegirl7 Рік тому +23

      My thoughts too. His father was likely the P word.

    • @tsiddig
      @tsiddig Рік тому +12

      @@sarahholland2600
      Could Jimmy allegedly, have been a product of abuse by his dad, wouldn’t that explain his mother not wanting him, allegedly?

    • @sarahholland2600
      @sarahholland2600 Рік тому +25

      ​@@tsiddigYou mean abuse to her? Who knows. Apparently she was a cold woman , who even tho' Saville bought her a flat & gave her a monthly allowance, showed him very little interest. Family members have stated in interviews that her usual comment on him was, "he's probably up to no good". Maybe she had her own suspicions re her son.

  • @LeoPaulHelmar
    @LeoPaulHelmar Рік тому +22

    Great interview. I've watched most of the Savile stuff out there and somehow I'd never came across Mr. Davies. I need to get his book. Thanks!

    • @guimarboy
      @guimarboy Рік тому +3

      It's a great book.

    • @limeyosu2000
      @limeyosu2000 10 місяців тому +1

      One of the best books I have read !

  • @anaccount8474
    @anaccount8474 6 місяців тому +12

    Stop using that phrase 'he hid in plain sight' - he was protected at the highest echelons of british society. Exactly how a working dance hall thug from Leeds got into that position is the real question that needs to be addressed.

    • @starwood213
      @starwood213 12 днів тому +1

      A very good question.

    • @cbarclay99
      @cbarclay99 5 днів тому

      Totally agree. Like Dan Davies, I 'knew' he was a pedofile from the late 70s. I put the word in quotation marks because I don't know how I knew. It was just common knowledge amongst people I was associated with. Perhaps the comment by John Lydon on TV. Perhaps hints in Private Eye.

  • @madiclegg3690
    @madiclegg3690 Рік тому +33

    Evil seems to be rewarded in this weird world

    • @seansands424
      @seansands424 Рік тому +1

      because they let it, it in there interest

    • @richardplume3212
      @richardplume3212 10 місяців тому

      Enemy in plain sight a bit harsh but rule 303 4me

    • @AndrewHillis_2024
      @AndrewHillis_2024 2 місяці тому +1

      WELL THE DEVIL IS THE RULER OF THIS WORLD AT LEAST FOR NOW ! ! !🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔

    • @shaqyardie8105
      @shaqyardie8105 2 місяці тому

      @@AndrewHillis_2024 Leave the religious nonsense at the door please. If your god wanted to kill the devil and have endless peace, then he would do just that instead of watching like a doofus.

  • @anaccount8474
    @anaccount8474 6 місяців тому +10

    I was brought up in the 70s and never heard any rumors about him. I remember reading an interview in a magazine with him in the early 90s. My impression was that he was totally deluded as he was talking about himself like he was one of the most powerful people in the UK. Of course we now know he was.

    • @Debbie-vo3yg
      @Debbie-vo3yg 5 місяців тому +2

      That's because he supplied children to a lot of powerful people

  • @Wereontoyouss
    @Wereontoyouss Рік тому +25

    You should look into Fort Augustus Abbey 'Cardinal Keith O’Brien, a good friend of Savile’s, was also a regular visitor at the school.

  • @starwood213
    @starwood213 12 днів тому

    Very interesting interview and I appreciate Dans insights. I also like the way he treated each question seriously and respectfully. Looking forward to reading his book.

  • @BANGERS68
    @BANGERS68 Рік тому +31

    It’s such a shame he never got caught. Evil man. Ruined so many fragile life’s.

    • @Mydadisbiggerthanyourdad
      @Mydadisbiggerthanyourdad Рік тому

      They waited until his death as he knew too much

    • @NECRONOMICON7-7-7
      @NECRONOMICON7-7-7 11 місяців тому +7

      He did get caught, everyone knew about it but through powerful friends he remained untouchable .

    • @tomhollandroberts1737
      @tomhollandroberts1737 4 місяці тому

      @@NECRONOMICON7-7-7 Royal Family ?????

    • @Shlbly1
      @Shlbly1 3 місяці тому

      @BANGER68 I was one of the Duncroft & BBC girls who was abused ua-cam.com/video/mBO3WegCqhU/v-deo.htmlsi=OqhnMNTX1gLx4XMR

    • @Shlbly1
      @Shlbly1 3 місяці тому

      He was one of many who stole my childhood ua-cam.com/video/mBO3WegCqhU/v-deo.htmlsi=Ml-YQuAlKCQGdwTN

  • @lesleyjones5817
    @lesleyjones5817 Рік тому +9

    Really great interview 👏 👍

  • @Conorguill
    @Conorguill 9 місяців тому +10

    Seems strange not to mention the consistent allegations which have swirled around Mountbatten

  • @ozdorothyfan
    @ozdorothyfan 7 місяців тому +7

    I always even as a child growing up seeing him on TV in the 1970's found him creepy and inappropriate with young girls. An adult male persistently insisting that some young girl give him a kiss when it was obvious they didn't want to gave me the creeps for just one thing.

  • @elixorvideos
    @elixorvideos 2 місяці тому

    Wonderful talk, I wish it went on for longer. So much insight.

  • @MikeSmith10999
    @MikeSmith10999 8 місяців тому +6

    Just Binged The Reckoning. Interesting work.

  • @annyaboyd3141
    @annyaboyd3141 Рік тому +6

    One of the best books I've read about Saville, I might read it again

    • @RANDYSWELLBURG
      @RANDYSWELLBURG Рік тому +1

      After that, you might read and enjoy The French Lieutenant's Woman.

  • @MarkPearce-u7m
    @MarkPearce-u7m 7 місяців тому +10

    Esther covered for him. Then fronted child line. Scary eh?

    • @Peter-cz8hx
      @Peter-cz8hx 7 місяців тому +5

      yeh userzo4h. allegedly just as bad as him, she has been kiddie fiddling herself.god will sort her out soon enough cos she's not long for this world, thankfully. she's also one of the clan if you know what i mean..

    • @djsimonrossprice9400
      @djsimonrossprice9400 7 місяців тому +4

      ​@@Peter-cz8hxmy old boss confirmed ALL this to me in 1985.
      He was a very famous author.
      He mentioned E.R a few times I couldn't believe it then..... Can now..😢😢

    • @AndrewHillis_2024
      @AndrewHillis_2024 2 місяці тому +1

      AND NOW SHE IS ON THE WAY OUT WITH DIGNITAS ! ! !🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔

  • @saitdesigns
    @saitdesigns Рік тому +30

    The bit where he mentions the pedophile ring parties with adult men and children who were nervous is utterly spine chilling its the stuff of horror movies

  • @DKGCustom
    @DKGCustom Рік тому +3

    thanks Dan

  • @yvelaine
    @yvelaine Рік тому +2

    Thank you , very interesting and. Genuine .

  • @hynesightweddingfilms
    @hynesightweddingfilms 11 місяців тому +1

    Fantastic information. Well done

  • @brigittelehmann9749
    @brigittelehmann9749 Рік тому +13

    He was pure evil

  • @Nautilus1972
    @Nautilus1972 Рік тому +1

    Jimmy’s autobiography I read when I was 17. Over 20 years ago. It remains the most unique autobiography I’ve ever read.

  • @BeesWaxMinder
    @BeesWaxMinder Рік тому +4

    44:22 - saville was a rare case of someone who could surf that 'storm' while the likes of the offenders who are so very famous to us all go under
    It's very likely that there are tens of thousands of people, maybe hundreds of thousands, who can successfully weather the 'storm' and even use it as an energy to commit the crimes but we will never know about them
    We only know about the ones that fail and are found out
    There are many stories of multiple offenders who can't help themselves in drawing attention to their crimes and poking at the police etc and that's the way their caught
    Those are the only ones we hear about

  • @nichhodge8503
    @nichhodge8503 Рік тому +14

    The line Jimmy Savile said to the policeman about waiting for midnight for the girl to turn 16 would be funny if it wasn’t true!

    • @tallpaska5913
      @tallpaska5913 Рік тому +6

      I was a teenager in the '70s and that scenario was a common joke. The attitude was that no matter how forcefully a girl was cajoled or coerced into sex, as long as she was 16, she was fair game.

    • @averyintelligence
      @averyintelligence Рік тому +2

      ​@@tallpaska5913it's still a common joke. I hear people say shit like that all the time.

    • @averyintelligence
      @averyintelligence Рік тому +2

      ​@@tallpaska5913 my money don't pickle pickle, it folds.

    • @annodomini7250
      @annodomini7250 Рік тому

      At least he waited.

    • @seansands424
      @seansands424 Рік тому +1

      He had done her all ready

  • @JamieJammy
    @JamieJammy Рік тому +12

    I think he blackmailed people , he knew Mount B and his dreadful reputation, so he blackmailed his way in.

    • @JCMCCARTHY-e3x
      @JCMCCARTHY-e3x Рік тому

      What was Mount B reputation?

    • @JamieJammy
      @JamieJammy Рік тому

      @@JCMCCARTHY-e3x He was killed by an IRA bomb in 1979, along with his 14 year old grandson Nicholas and a 15 year old deckhand Paul Maxwell. According to FBI documents Mountbatten was gripped by “a lust for young boys”. A Historical Institutional Abuse Inquiry found that 39 boys were abused at Kincora

    • @julianf-b475
      @julianf-b475 11 місяців тому

      ​@@JCMCCARTHY-e3xused to take boys from Irish homes and abuse them. Apparently the ira were going to use this information.

    • @Vaptomwen
      @Vaptomwen 10 місяців тому +4

      Unlikely,if that was so he’d of gone the same way as Dando. More likely there a high powered ring protecting him & others in exchange for something.

    • @norfolkronin6307
      @norfolkronin6307 7 місяців тому +2

      How did he know about mountbatten? Bless

  • @duncanbedford4765
    @duncanbedford4765 Рік тому +3

    Shauns adorable when he tries to pronounce any word with 'th' ...😂

  • @elizabethsheffield6609
    @elizabethsheffield6609 Рік тому +18

    ......it was also "rumored by some people that E.R. ALLEGEDLY opened Childline for very different purposes/reasons to what she showed the public. IMHO

    • @womanbread
      @womanbread Рік тому

      She is one disgusting, despicable hag, who helped Savile, as well as covered up and lied for him.

  • @shamrockballs1066
    @shamrockballs1066 Рік тому +10

    Fs mate the ads on this is ridiculous, 8 in 22 mins. Get it sorted.

  • @michaelrapson
    @michaelrapson Рік тому +19

    Surprised Davies neglected to mention that Saville was a procurer of children for the rich and famous and that was his path to fortune. There's a big gap in his narrative. I don't have his book, unless it's mentioned in that.

    • @michaelrapson
      @michaelrapson Рік тому +4

      It seems to have worked in the following way (according to various sources): Saville would deliver the children to a valet of a rich man at an agreed secret locality. The valet would give Saville the payment. Saville would melt away into the night. The valet would then deliver the children to his master discreetly. Deal done.

    • @saraheatonwriter
      @saraheatonwriter Рік тому +3

      Probably for legal reasons, because the links go to the most influential institutions in the country, and Dan wouldn't stand a chance against them.

    • @babs66
      @babs66 Рік тому

      ​@@saraheatonwriterLoius Theroux didn't seem to think he supplied children. I can't remember why.

    • @starwood213
      @starwood213 12 днів тому

      @@michaelrapson I wonder if he associated with Mohamed Al Fayed.

  • @chickedee1085
    @chickedee1085 Рік тому +11

    Shame they can’t mention how JS supplied girls to politicians and members of the royal family, due to You Tube P.C rules.

  • @patchpeek
    @patchpeek 10 місяців тому +5

    No Savile rumours in our school yard. Like most schools, whole class tried desperately to get on jim'll fix it. Presume some "Hindsight bias" by the author.

  • @chaosnexxus9255
    @chaosnexxus9255 4 місяці тому +2

    "Could another Savile happen in public?"
    Huw Edwards: "Hold my beer."

  • @Lisa-li1jd
    @Lisa-li1jd 4 місяці тому

    Excellent interview on a subject I find fascinating. Bought the book. 🇺🇸

  • @mattsta1964
    @mattsta1964 Рік тому +51

    Savile was a Knight of Malta, a very exclusive appendant body of international freemasonry. These people manage our lives behind what the public sees and reads in politics and the media.

    • @tog2842
      @tog2842 Рік тому

      He was balls deep in every corridor of power, he knew too much, all the dirty underage and necrophilian secrets. and would be protected because of that.
      Similar to Epstein, until he was imprisoned - potentially making the powerful vulnerable.

    • @spiritualcheerleader1622
      @spiritualcheerleader1622 Рік тому +1

      1 comment but can’t see it. Hmmmm 😆

    • @deanthechamp5669
      @deanthechamp5669 Рік тому +3

      And a hi priest

    • @virginia3222
      @virginia3222 Рік тому +5

      I’m curious about what you mean by, “These people manage our lives…”. The Knights of Malta don’t seem to have a lot to do with my life.

    • @senioresyyouthworker7866
      @senioresyyouthworker7866 Рік тому +12

      They have huge influence over media, governments, laws that are made, what we see in the news, agendas in society.

  • @ChubbyChecker182
    @ChubbyChecker182 Рік тому +5

    Those 1970/80s Savile AutoBiographies are unavailable now arnt they ? Can they be downloaded somewhere ?... i have heard a few extracts from UA-camrs, and they are full of hints and innuendos about what he was up to.

    • @rosemarymurlis-hellings8138
      @rosemarymurlis-hellings8138 Рік тому +2

      Try ordering through your local library. They should be able to see if there are any copies available throughout the library network.

  • @christinewilde110
    @christinewilde110 Рік тому +17

    Louis Mountbatten liked young boys.... A friend of mine told me when the tv program was about to expose him that as a youngster in Yorkshire all the boys knew what he was like. At that time he had a caravan that he used to park near to the venue where he was DJ ING and girls would hang around and get invited in.

    • @sarahholland2600
      @sarahholland2600 Рік тому +8

      Exactly. Savilles friend from the very start of his career has been in a couple of docs saying Savilke was paying off underage girls families right from the start of his career when he was doing dance hall gigs , which lead to his radio DJ career.

    • @johnnowlan9963
      @johnnowlan9963 Рік тому +4

      He love little Indian boys 👳🤘

    • @annodomini7250
      @annodomini7250 Рік тому

      @@johnnowlan9963 Well done for having sex with him, special you.

  • @JT-dn1id
    @JT-dn1id 11 місяців тому +2

    I have read Dan Davie's book and found it to be the best authority on this subject. 600 pages, but very well structured and easy to read. Apart from being a pervert who damaged many people, I was interested in how much he had actually achieved and of course he used this part of his reputation to feed into the dark side of his life.

  • @westminsterwatcher5152
    @westminsterwatcher5152 Рік тому +1

    Fascinating interview!

  • @TheGlasgowGamer
    @TheGlasgowGamer 6 місяців тому

    This is really valuable insight as Dan really got to the truth of it all long before it was revealed. Great interview Shaun.

  • @fay5479
    @fay5479 Рік тому +12

    The power of oddness... fascinating 🤔 and paralyzing...

  • @judithsullivan9703
    @judithsullivan9703 10 місяців тому +2

    The Yorksire and the Met Police, everywhere he was "volunteering" with and raised money for and the music industry. Everyone heard the rumors and turned the other way!

  • @beverleyferguson8942
    @beverleyferguson8942 8 місяців тому +2

    I have just finished Dan Davis book which was excellent. I put the book down next to a photo of my very young grandchildren, when l realised what l did l moved the book!

  • @ChubbyChecker182
    @ChubbyChecker182 Рік тому +8

    In the new Scorcese movie (Killers Of The Flower Moon) De Niro's Charcter is a 32nd Degree FreeMason, and he was bad enough... Savile is believed by some to be a 33 Degree mason.

    • @annodomini7250
      @annodomini7250 Рік тому

      So Freemasons have bad members so does the local book club...

  • @clivehaining3195
    @clivehaining3195 11 місяців тому +6

    I was just thinking, he stayed by his mother’s side for 3 days and 3 nights. Do you think he got up to anything.?

    • @kracheconomique
      @kracheconomique 7 місяців тому +1

      Omg. Anything's possible

    • @nickcoppard5335
      @nickcoppard5335 6 місяців тому

      Once a perv always a perv

    • @JP-ve7or
      @JP-ve7or 5 місяців тому +1

      It was 5 days, I believe, and . . . I'd rather not think about it.

  • @davidbaines1425
    @davidbaines1425 Рік тому +4

    Where are the newspaper articles mantioned at 18.00??? The guy who employed ex-concentration camp guards...? Please link them here.

  • @cheeseisdelicious111
    @cheeseisdelicious111 Рік тому +3

    When Jim was at his peak of fame and adoration, i was a young child in NZ. I only first heard of him when he died. Seeing news stories on TV - clips of his appearances over the years - he immediately struck me as a slippery ominous man. What whas the general feeling of the British public back then? He seemed to be loved by EVERYONE... was this a reality? Or did most people see him thr way i did?

    • @rogeredmunds5806
      @rogeredmunds5806 10 місяців тому +8

      He wasn't "loved by everyone". I reckon the majority thought him a bit of an oddball, and weren't drawn to watching or listening to him broadcast, because he was irritating.
      His crafty cover was always charity fundraising, and voluntary work in hospitals, and because of this he was imagined to be eccentric, but with a good heart.
      Plenty of people could have blown the whistle on him, and maybe many tried ? It is assumed after his death, and so much has become known, that he must have had some kind of protection during his lifetime, due to "things he knew about that would truly shock if he opened his mouth". Plenty of secrets died with him for sure. He isn't missed.

    • @marniep4332
      @marniep4332 10 місяців тому +4

      I must have had great intuition even as a child of 6 or 7. Family used to watch him on TV, jim will fix it etc and even then I felt an evil force about him.

    • @Debbie-vo3yg
      @Debbie-vo3yg 5 місяців тому +2

      As kid I thought he was weird remember my daddy saying he was weird also

    • @karenharvey2549
      @karenharvey2549 3 місяці тому +1

      I’m grew up in his heyday and whenever I saw him on TV I cringed. I thought he was creepy but I didn’t know why I felt that way. Mum wouldn’t let us watch Top of the Pops. Perhaps she had a sixth sense about him. She had quite good radar.

    • @karenharvey2549
      @karenharvey2549 3 місяці тому +2

      @@rogeredmunds5806I didn’t like him at all. He was creepy.

  • @jotheakston2405
    @jotheakston2405 Рік тому +6

    Really interesting interview. What did happen to his remains in the end? Dan were you nervous or wary of Savile during your interviews? This is so fascinating unfortunately!

    • @spikesgirl9371
      @spikesgirl9371 Рік тому +4

      My understanding is his remains are still there but they removed his headstone. Unless something else happened that I'm unaware of.

    • @babs66
      @babs66 Рік тому +3

      Yes he's at at Woodlands Scarborough.

    • @mattgosling2657
      @mattgosling2657 10 місяців тому

      ​@@babs66was he buried or cremated?? I expect if he still had a headstone it would have been smashed years ago.

    • @PaulAngeloff
      @PaulAngeloff 10 місяців тому +3

      @@mattgosling2657 he was buried at a 45 degree angle so he had a view of the sea. Weird even in death. His head stone was removed and ground up for land fill. His grave is unmarked. I read all this today after watching the reckoning ep1

    • @mattgosling2657
      @mattgosling2657 10 місяців тому

      @paulangeloff400 he really was a very strange creepy bastard wasn't he, he probably abused thousands of young kids over the years and nobody will ever know about all the things he got up to, I wouldn't be surprised if some of his victims have disappeared over the years too. Its absolutely shocking how many very famous important people he had as friends and how royal family treated him, we have no idea how many untouchable people there are that have been doing the same thing for years and getting away with whatever they like. Its sickening, I can remember watching jim'll fix it when I was a little kid and I always thought he was a weirdo and nothing nice about him.

  • @ashbaggie4066
    @ashbaggie4066 Рік тому +12

    My parents met him on the QE2. Over the period of the cruise they would bump into him several times and as Dan states he gave them the carefully constructed Saville bullshit around his life story. They came away liking him. He was on his own and spent most of his time on the cruise chatting to old people and making sure they were ok. Even my Dad, who before the cruise was not a fan, was sucked in. Im surprised not much has come out about his time on QE2 as i believe he went on it alot.

    • @Nautilus1972
      @Nautilus1972 Рік тому +8

      Crimes on boats are notoriously hard to prosecute. Has to do with jurisdiction.

    • @martinintrospective3491
      @martinintrospective3491 11 місяців тому

      @@Nautilus1972 I used to have a sailboat & some of mates worked on these multi million £ Gin Palaces based in Ibiza & Mallorca . Some of those Gin Palaces fly under a flag of convenience ( some 3rd world country that has questionable human rights ?) My friend had bars on the front of the port. The staff of these Gin Palaces used to drink in her bars. There would be somebody off the Gin Palaces who would acquire - Girls( young), drugs etc & anything else they or their rich clients requested .

    • @andybray9791
      @andybray9791 5 місяців тому

      Yep ur dad was indoctrinated by him

  • @KKTR3
    @KKTR3 Рік тому +4

    Just come to me I’ve never heard anything about his father until this

  • @averyintelligence
    @averyintelligence Рік тому +6

    Can we not ignore the fact that they designed worzel gummidge to look like jimmy saville.

  • @chel3SEY
    @chel3SEY 9 місяців тому +3

    Good interviewer. Talks little and lets his guest speak.

  • @Chrispy1976
    @Chrispy1976 Рік тому +3

    I watched the reckoning recently, it was an eye-opener, there's a bit that drives me mad (alongside the obvious child abuse and assaulting vulnerable patients etc) The guy playing Dan Davies says something along the lines of "There's no smoke without fire?" ..and Coogan playing Jimmy offers up his cigar and retorts something along the lines of "Here's smoke, no fire? there you go a free physics lesson for you." ... i was like, ok smart-ass, how did you light the effing cigar? I think a lot of it boils down to how he just got away with it all. on a personal note, Saville destroyed what had been a lovely memory for me of my younger sister when she was about 3 in the mid 80's, she used to sing along with the jim'll fix it theme tune, and go 'Bubbubah' ... that memory is now tainted, sounds daft considering what he did to people, I am just glad i never got a reply to my letter asking to fly a harrier jump jet sometime after the falklands conflict. Thank you for this interview, it's macabre to say i enjoyed it, but perhaps, i find the saville story engrossing, more than entertaining. thanks for opening up what is known for us to digest and process this vile predatory paedophile. Never Again.

    • @mattgosling2657
      @mattgosling2657 10 місяців тому

      I think that probably would have been quite a hard fix to get a little kid a ride in a harrier, but if you don't ask you don't get so was worth a try buddy. You were probably better off getting let down he was a creepy fucker mate.

  • @johnrider5701
    @johnrider5701 5 місяців тому +2

    There's an old saying. Its not what you know its who you know and Savile knew the right people if he went down they went down as well.

  • @real-eyes-realise-real-lie8888

    Vince opened my school fete in Pembroke, Wales in early 80s. He seemed odd to us kids. He dressed in a gold tracksuit and looked nothing like Jimmy

    • @mattgosling2657
      @mattgosling2657 10 місяців тому +3

      Jimmy used to wear a shiny gold tracksuit also I can clearly remember seeing him dressed like that.

  • @gweilospur5877
    @gweilospur5877 7 місяців тому +2

    The biggest part of the answer will be that what Savile did has been massively exaggerated.

  • @michaelmorrissey1790
    @michaelmorrissey1790 14 днів тому

    I was lead to believe one of his brother worked at Stockwell Station selling newspapers can you please ask this question

  • @AndrewHillis_2024
    @AndrewHillis_2024 2 місяці тому +1

    JIM 'FUXED' IT FOR EVERYONE ! ! !😭😭😭😭😭😭😭

  • @julianmoules7673
    @julianmoules7673 9 місяців тому +2

    Was he in the masons and was this an aspect that's never mentioned re being close to the police

  • @melbournegirl7
    @melbournegirl7 Рік тому +20

    I would suggest that the reason he hated his father was because his father was also the P-word. Given his brother also had these habits supports that these things run in families. It’s not “normal” to hate your father. Reasons for disliking his father not known.

    • @lorimiller4301
      @lorimiller4301 Рік тому +8

      They run in families because the abuser transfers his demons to the victim through the abuse.
      Then, the victim has to decide whether to fight those demons or give in to it.

    • @annodomini7250
      @annodomini7250 Рік тому +1

      @@lorimiller4301 loony alert.

    • @lorimiller4301
      @lorimiller4301 Рік тому +8

      ​@@annodomini7250So because you don't understand something you're going to resort to calling me names ?
      Sure hope it never happens to you or your loved ones pal.
      The greatest trick the devil has is being too subtle for fools to recognize him.

    • @annodomini7250
      @annodomini7250 Рік тому

      @@lorimiller4301 I understand all too well. In response to the second line of your reply that is you being passive aggressive. The third you call me a fool which I am fine with. Now let us look at your first comment about demons and this is very simple, Jimmy Savile had demons because of this they abused children through Jimmy's body, I hope you are following, therefore it is not Jimmy Savile who is guilty but the demons within him this being so, Jimmy did not sin when abusing children he had no control over these demons that you said he had. We cannot be responsible for another sin, that's Christian 101, the demons sinned Jimmy was possessed. As you know when someone is in a possessed state they are unaware of their actions, I assume you know this, Jimmy therefore is not responsible for his actions. How much of a fool am I, I do not give Jimmy a free get out of jail card as you do.

    • @annodomini7250
      @annodomini7250 Рік тому

      @@lorimiller4301 I hope you received my in-depth reply to this post, I look forward to your reply as I would be interested to know your position now, as a Christian. Theologically there are problems with the position you hold and would appreciate an expansion on this belief you have.

  • @Bluediamond200
    @Bluediamond200 4 місяці тому +1

    Apparently he left all his money when he died to all his lawyers, wonder how much 2TK received 🤔

  • @RAW555R
    @RAW555R 10 місяців тому +1

    What is Shaun looking at during these interviews? Is his computer up on the wall or something?

  • @jonathanmonck-mason6715
    @jonathanmonck-mason6715 Рік тому +6

    Duncroft School was what was known as an "approved school" in those days. The fact that he did not know this and called it a Borstal calls into question his credibility. In the 1970s it was taken over by the national institute for mental health and run as a children's home. Borstals were tough juvenile prisons run by the Home Office.

    • @tallpaska5913
      @tallpaska5913 Рік тому +9

      'Borstal' is a colloquial British term for youth custody establishments, much as one might call any vacuum cleaner a 'Hoover'.

  • @KKTR3
    @KKTR3 Рік тому +1

    A fight on the hillside? More info

  • @y007p3
    @y007p3 Рік тому +9

    One of the things I liked about this mini series was that it was sensitively done.

  • @jonathanmonck-mason6715
    @jonathanmonck-mason6715 Рік тому +8

    In post war Britain there were few working class heroes (before the Beatles) and that was one of the reasons why Savile was taken up by influential people.

  • @MumOfMylo
    @MumOfMylo Рік тому +9

    Guy Marsden is my children's Grandad! Learned more about Jimmy savile through Shaun than thru family 😂

    • @georgia8592
      @georgia8592 Рік тому +2

      The fact you find it humorous is perhaps one of the reasons people don't confide in you 🤔

    • @MumOfMylo
      @MumOfMylo Рік тому +5

      @georgia8592 more the fact I don't speak to them! Funny how you laughing at my humour 🤣 🙄 honestly 🤣 ppl just like having a go for sake of having a go 🤔 strange 🙄

    • @georgia8592
      @georgia8592 Рік тому +6

      None of this is humorous.

    • @MumOfMylo
      @MumOfMylo Рік тому +1

      @georgia8592 think you've overreacted about a simple comment 🤔

  • @CrueLoaf
    @CrueLoaf Рік тому +5

    I’m not sure there was schoolyard gossip about Saville.

    • @BadgerBotherer1
      @BadgerBotherer1 Рік тому +2

      I don't remember any!

    • @darrelirvine5560
      @darrelirvine5560 Рік тому +1

      I encountered saville, when I was 7 we were on a school trip, to Hardwood House, bird garden, just outside Harrogate, north Yorkshire, I believe the owner of that country pile, is related to the Queen, a cousin I believe, we were shepherded into this quite area, of the estate, our group, because there were other school groups there also, and it was quite a small area, but in the corner, there was a caged area, and we were told, to be quite, because their was a bad tempered gorrilla (yes I know) a gorrilla, but remember, we were only 7yo Olds, anyway no sooner he the guide said those words, when a huge tier was thrown at the cage gate, and and scared the crap outta me, i remember it, to this day.. Anyways this is quite a long ( but true) account of what happened, 10 minutes after that, me and my friend, were stood behind this tree talking, when I heard a familiar voice, so we looked around the tree, and to my utter suprise, there was Jimmy saville, in this Bloody guerilla suite, with the head off! and he was smoking the obligertry cigar ( and we all know) just what that cigar really represented don't we eh, and the reason I recognized him, was because of "top of the pop's" now here's were it gets really sinister, (again a true story) year's later in 1976 Peter Sutcliffe aka the Yorkshire ripper, tried to pick me up, when I was 12 yrs old, less than half a mile from were he worked at Clarks, in Bradford West Yorkshire, were I'm from, I told, Jon wedger, my story, about Peter Sutcliffe, Jon wedger is a retired ex Scotland yard cop, and bugger me, so to speak, two weeks later, Sutcliffe was found dead, in his cell, died from COVID! apparently, not that I believe it, for one minute, I think certain parties shall we say, didn't want people, putting two and two, together, here endeth my true stories.

    • @neilf335
      @neilf335 Рік тому +3

      I went to school in Scarborough in the 60s; Saville & Jaconelli were well known for their 'antics'!

    • @CrueLoaf
      @CrueLoaf Рік тому

      @@neilf335 maybe in Scarborough!

    • @darrelirvine5560
      @darrelirvine5560 Рік тому

      He was on "Top of the pop's" that's why saville was familiar to me.

  • @theshitehawkofradders6891
    @theshitehawkofradders6891 8 місяців тому +1

    DAN KNEW

  • @cb4883
    @cb4883 10 місяців тому +2

    HE DIDN'T HIDEN PLAIN SIGHT EVERYONE KNEW WHAT HE WAS 😮😮

  • @TurinTurumba
    @TurinTurumba 11 місяців тому +1

    It'd be great if he wrote a new book titled, ",JS, How it really happened"

  • @djsimonrossprice9400
    @djsimonrossprice9400 7 місяців тому +2

    None of us can escape judgment day....

    • @AndrewHillis_2024
      @AndrewHillis_2024 2 місяці тому +1

      JESUS HAS PAID FOR OUR SINS PAST, PRESENT & FUTURE SO WE WILL BE OKAY BUT UNFORTUNATELY IT'S THE DEATH SENTENCE (THE SECOND DEATH) FOR THOSE WHOSE NAMES ARE NOT WRITTEN IN THE BOOK OF LIFE ! ! !🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔

    • @shaqyardie8105
      @shaqyardie8105 2 місяці тому

      No evidence of a judgment day, mythical fairyfale nonsense. And a god that sits back and watches this man do the things he did is not a god that i would want to look up to.

  • @jaymestrodden4916
    @jaymestrodden4916 3 місяці тому +2

    Saville the beast😢

  • @claredelamer7940
    @claredelamer7940 Рік тому +4

    Apparently he was a member of MENSA. Is this true? What was his IQ?

  • @martinjones1930
    @martinjones1930 Рік тому +3

    Wasn't anything we haven't heard before

  • @badninja1971
    @badninja1971 10 місяців тому +2

    The only problem is you’re covering crimes from years ago. It’s still going on.
    TV presenters are still playing the same game, especially ones with brothers convicted. 🤔

  • @robinwills8284
    @robinwills8284 Рік тому +1

    Rumors of him were common many places but not out of UK … though deep topic want to listen to video

  • @JohnMarkss
    @JohnMarkss Рік тому +3

    The school yard gossip comment is very interesting. I dont believe anyone in any school yard in the uk said anything sexual about Saville.

    • @mah3223alia
      @mah3223alia Рік тому +6

      They definitely did ....at my school anyway ('78-'79)

    • @JohnMarkss
      @JohnMarkss Рік тому

      @@mah3223alia I stand corrected.

    • @davidhenderson9707
      @davidhenderson9707 Рік тому +2

      Some schools are posher than others don’t you know

  • @AndrewHillis_2024
    @AndrewHillis_2024 2 місяці тому +1

    JIM 'FUXED' IT FOR EVERYONE AND NOW HE IS BEING 'FUXED' BY THE DEVIL IN HELL NOW ! ! !

  • @Jane-rc2rk
    @Jane-rc2rk 3 місяці тому

    Even if he was a product of abuse, he was an adult and could’ve sought help.

  • @TheChipmunk2008
    @TheChipmunk2008 9 місяців тому

    I never heard those rumours :(

  • @KKTR3
    @KKTR3 Рік тому +1

    52.09 mins he did not let it slip he’d been telling that story for years- even in the sun newspaper

  • @shylinh5939
    @shylinh5939 9 місяців тому

    Shaun, you are amazing. This stuff is so repulsive, but you do it, you do what makes people feel so sick and powerless. Nothing vile has happened to me, I grew up being loved and safe, I didn't even know that the kind of disgusting crimes Savile was responsible for went on until I was an adult. And it's almost unbelievable that that it did, it was known about, but continued anyway, and no one stopped it. Savile was only stopped by death. And death was far too good for him.

  • @KKTR3
    @KKTR3 Рік тому

    Which - PA ???

  • @norfolkronin6307
    @norfolkronin6307 7 місяців тому +2

    I can't understand how anyone thought the reckoning was a good and enjoyable watch. Mindblowing. Horrible.

    • @paj4949
      @paj4949 5 місяців тому

      it’s not meant to be enjoyable it’s meant to make you feel disgusted by him. i felt really uncomfortable and just gross watching it and i think that’s what makes it effective. i think they were careful to not put him in a sympathetic light or downplay what he did

  • @norfolkronin6307
    @norfolkronin6307 7 місяців тому +1

    There's some who at Yorkshire TV who at times were going to exspose some major pedophillic crimes on a major scale. Here in the UK and the state's. But powers to be shut them down. Boystown in the state's was going to be huge as it went to the very top at the white house. And it was the same in this country. There is the chosen few who can do what the hell they like and get away with it with no repercussions. There's a list of names. Bless

  • @pagimaidj
    @pagimaidj Рік тому +4

    How this guy was able to fool MI5/MI6 is the fascinating part of it all, he must of had 'friends' in very high places ... 😉 ...

    • @vauxtc
      @vauxtc Рік тому +3

      Like MI5 and MI6

    • @darrenremington6422
      @darrenremington6422 Рік тому +5

      Rolf Harris painted the Queen??????

    • @AndrewHillis_2024
      @AndrewHillis_2024 2 місяці тому +1

      AND FRIENDS IN VERY LOW PLACES TOO ! ! !🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔

  • @babs66
    @babs66 Рік тому +3

    He had a girlfriend that appeared on This Morning. Where did she fit in?

  • @DisobedientSpaceWhale
    @DisobedientSpaceWhale Рік тому +1

    As a Roman Catholic, Savile would not be allowed to be a Freemason, by his own Church. Dan Davies also says 'you know' a heck of a lot, but he's a great writer.

    • @davidhenderson9707
      @davidhenderson9707 Рік тому +3

      He has dozens of pictures wearing the Knights of Malta badge

    • @DisobedientSpaceWhale
      @DisobedientSpaceWhale Рік тому +1

      ​​@@davidhenderson9707Knights of Malta is a ROMAN CATHOLIC order not a masonic one!!! Catholic Church hates Freemasonry!

  • @FrankieParadiso4evah
    @FrankieParadiso4evah 6 місяців тому

    9.22 a nun who was later beatified should be pronounced bee-AT instead of beat!

  • @SoloSi2024
    @SoloSi2024 Рік тому +1

    Yep, definitely a very weird childhood.

  • @angeleyes1353
    @angeleyes1353 Рік тому +2

    Excellent interview.