Especially since they had a 1 yo daughter. If he would sexually assault one child he would do it to his own. Them both going to prison saved that kid from harm when she got older. This was Karma more than anything.
Let me get this straight. Clay originally had ONLY 30 days of jail time for sexually assaulting a child, But committing insurance fraud landed him 30 years….. crazy world we live in
23:33 30 days for child abuse 20 years for fraud does anyone see the problem with this is anyone else like what the hell 30 days insurance companies do not take kindly man I could say so much worse but I don't want to be banned
It seems Clayton Daniels was going to face more jail time the his sexual abuse crime and so to escape it and to get insurance money, he staged his own death.
In my opinion it’s a case of Molly meeting her own needs rather than the needs of her children - she clearly exposed her own vulnerable children to a sexual predator. I really hope the children no longer live with her!
@@thepapschmearmd No one agrees with the laws and yet they remain unchanged. That's why calling it a "democratic society" is just propaganda. It's a corporate society with window dressing.
@@thepapschmearmd No one agrees with the laws and yet they remain unchanged. That's why calling it a "democratic society" is just propaganda. It's a corporate society with window dressing.
The fact that Molly decided to help Clay avoid his abysmally light sentence for sexual assualt and just stage a whole accident while also desecrating an old woman's body is appalling. Like are you serious??
This aspect really disgusted me. What type of....Beast in human form could stand by a man...no not a man, a monster,- like that whilst fully knowing that he was a pedo child rapist? It is truly disturbing, sickening to know that there are such 'Things' as that out there on our planet.
@@malcolmcarter1726 bro it's just a woman. Now don't assume I intend to say all women are like her--I mean nothing she did is outside of human nature and there are other humans doing the human things she did right now. Beware that fact.
I’m a nurse. I care for a blind elderly fellow who loves to listen to MrBallen. We listen to a different story everyday. He’s really such a great storyteller.
Lol i love the friend that spoke honestly at the funeral saying the world's better off without him. So many times just because someone dies they become the best person in the world the 'light up the room, give the shirt off their back' types.
That’s what I thought. I laughed so hard at the probabilities of almost everyone there agreeing too. Then the amount of confidence they had to only dye his hair and go right back to the house. It’s all hilarious except what he did to a 7 yr old. Sick.
there was a guy I went to high school with who had like only a handful of "friends" and no one really close to him, but a lot of enemies.. dude was a known dealer and a banger.. over winter break he had a deal in the school parking lot go wrong, he got shot, and tried to walk home afterwards, but ended up bleeding out in the snow on the football field...... you would've thought we'd lost our school mascot the way people reacted! he got a full page in the yearbook that year and again when our class graduated, suddenly he had so many friends, people were in counseling sessions during classes cuz they were so sad. it was frickin stupid. a total asshole lowlife got what he deserved.
There must've been some legal issue with the case for the sexual assault. Probably got a plea deal because of it with the light sentence with an agreement to be on probation and if he violated probation it would be repealed. Makes sense because he got hit with an additional 20 years for the probation violation. He got the maximum sentence for both of these crimes he committed.
@@taylorbug9 being president won't change a damn thing, the government isn't incharge of insurance agencies the US, they're private insurance companies. In Canada, it's illegal for our politicians to lobby with corporations and there is a legal cap on election spending for campaigns. Personally I'd you were to get into US politics, that would be the first thing I'd personally address, so you guys can finally tell big Pharma where they can shove their outrageous prices.
30 days for ruining a child’s life forever but you take some money that doesn’t belong to you and suddenly you get 30 years… the “justice” system hard at work folks
Well honestly they paid into that insurance. We all do and ost the time we all never use what we pay into. Now how they did was illegal. What sucks is she got 20 and barely stayed in prison for it. He will die in there and she barely was punished.
The justice system seemingly prides themselves in letting high risk individuals off easily, while punishing people for petty offenses with extreme consequences for their crimes
Law enforcement dropped the ball at the beginning of the accident investigation as well. Even with severe burns, a mediocre forensics investigator should be able to tell the difference between a man and a woman.
The moment it was clear that she was okay with having her children around a man that was convicted of sexually assaulting a child, I knew something wasn’t right about her because she didn’t care about the possible danger he was to her own children.
Tbh that just made me think she killed him. If they were together for years and then he did that I could imagine she just pretends she's behind him still, but then kills him for the money.
@@Veronica.A. That's not true or else she wouldn't have had him come back. He was dead as far as anyone else knew so she had the perfect opportunity to cut him out and take all the money, but she didn't.
@@Veronica.A. hell no he couldn't. He wouldn't be going down, just wouldn't be with her. Turning himself in would get him more time than it gets her, and there's no proof she knew anything about it. She can just say he's a liar and did it all himself.
Remember, we don't have the details on what did or did not happen. It's easy to hear "sexual assault on a child" and get triggered, but who knows what actually took place. That sentence kind of suggests there is more to that part of the story.
@@aaront2192bro, if hearing "sex assault on a child" doesn't trigger you, I'm gonna assume you're a diddler too. There are no misunderstandings when it comes to be convicted of sexual assault against a child. I sincerely hope anyone who thinks there's any explanation that makes those charges invalid is forced to eat a cactus with a lemon juice chaser.
Who drives to their Mom's house at 11pm, a 40 mile drive, without warning her they're coming first? Also I am left with many questions about that autopsy.
I didn't even think about the autopsy. You'd think there would be some anatomical evidence that the person they were examining was a female... I guess it was all burned away?
Right? How could they not tell the difference between a young man and an elderly woman? There should be questions about the capabilities of the person performing autopsies there. It calls all other autopsies performed there into question, too. That's a pretty big mess up.
@@Rexorazor you are generalizing women. Not all women are like than. I've been with the same man for last 20 years and we are still having the best times of our lives.
This story just confirms how I feel about the justice system. You mess with children or any human being slap on the wrist maybe...mess with their money... throwing the book at you.
@@mariotaylor2390 people who do NOTHING are just as bad as people who do the wrong thing! "The only thing necessary for the prosper of evil is for good men to do nothing." Edmund Burke
Can you imagine IF the father of the abused little girl had not had an alibi for that night, that man who was rightfully distraught about what happened to his daughter could have been arrested possibly convicted and put into prison even potentially put on death row all because of these evil selfish people!
@@CharlieApples That wasn't my concern, my concern was that the child's father could have been wrongfully convicted of murdering the rapist as revenge and in Texas he could have received the death penelty as a result, luckily the rapist is an idiot and used an elderly woman's remains but if he had used a younger males remains it could have turned out differently.
Totally agree with you, it’s like perfectly primed for false arrest & conviction. The fact they couldn’t differentiate between the bodies is just ludicrous though, boggles my mind.
Ive been listening to Mr.Ballen for over a year now, never would I thought he would cover a story of someone I actually knew. I was locked up at Wallace unit ( texas prison in colorado city/ west texas )with Clayton for about 8 years in the same dorm. They call him goose in prison. Loves Harley’s, loves tattoos, and his a Luciferian in prison. I knew he had a sex related charge because he was known to be a sex offender but never did I imagine the whole story. Needless to say , almost everyone in there is guilty of severe crimes, but to know I played chess , talked to on a daily basis , and even worked out with him at the rec yard , would molest a 7 year old girl and dig someone up out of a grave and set them on fire, it’s unbelievable.
Is it not true what they say about getting your papers read?.... I thought everyone in prison gets their papers read by the gangs and essentially all the people in the prison know exactly what you're in there for. On top of that, I thought pedophiles got separated into protective custody specifically for this reason...
it is very sad to know that someone can go to prison for 30 years for insurance fraud and fake their own death, and for assaulting a 7 year old girl you get only 30 days...
The amount of disgusting things he did with no apparent remorse is staggering. However the emotional damage he inflicted on that poor boy Caleb is truly mind blowing. It’s one of the most inexcusable acts of cruel behavior that a parent figure could ever do to their child. Honestly so bothered by that.
I have seen this video of two officers ordering taco bell and what you are describing happen, my issue is, I can't seem to locate the original video? Anyone?
What is that? "Abuse of a corpse" or something? I've heard stories of that and it usually gets you probation, though it was probably dropped here. Prob some kind of deal. He probably would've had the death penalty for insurance fraud and they dropped it to 30 years. (Sarcasm). That poor little boy will prob have trust issues & such for life.😢
Evidently, in the US, insurance fraud (thus robbing company managers and shareholders of a little profit) will land you with a substantially heavier penalty than desecrating a grave, destroying the corpse of another's family member, and assaulting a poor little 7 year old child. It's a mad world.
It is but abuse of a corpse is not a crime that carries much of a penalty. The bigger question is HOW DID ANYONE MISTAKE THE SKELETON OF AN 80 YEAR OLD WOMAN FOR A YOUNG MAN. Did they make ANY effort to properly ID the body? Wtf
At first I thought Molly had murdered her husband and I was glad because of what he did to that little girl. I hate the fact that she actually helped him stage it to protect him from his sentence.
I hope Caleb is okay, that poor baby..not only was his bio dad not around, the dad that stepped up was a piece of absolute trash. And his mom wasn’t any better. The younger sister too, I hope they both are doing awesome and thriving in adulthood!
Didn't anyone notice a corpse had been dug up? The body turned out to be that of 81 year old Charlotte Davis, who had died six months before the crash was staged. Embalming fluid is very flammable.
@@StarkGrimmFan Not necessarily, there's a weird thing called thermal amputation where bones are disintegrated but tissue remains. Bone changes such as osteoporosis or breaks may also be missed in autopsy especially back early 2000's. I'm a vet student so sometimes I go down these rabbit holes. The body is weird as heck but incompetency can't be ruled out lol 😂
@@hypsyzygy506 Embalming fluid would deffo act as an accelerant on top of light fluid. Corpses are unfortunately dug up a lot but not noticed especially if it was a grave that's to the back of the cemetery or neglected. People are honestly just crazy.
Molly’s poor kids were likely ruined over this. The two of them were truly despicable. I hope her children are being raised by kind people who can help them.
What I found heartbreaking was how traumatised her son was being told the person he views as his father is dead, only to see him again and being gaslit into believing it’s not him. What kind of mother puts her child through that so that she doesn’t have to go through 30 days of being without her pedo boyfriend??? And don’t even get me started on 30 days for molestation and 30 years for fraud 😡😡😡
I did some research 1, the 30 years prison sentence was for arson, insurance fraud, desecration of a cemetery and was given an additional 20 years for violating his probation. This means that the initial sentencing for violating a 7 year old was probation, only probation, if he had just violated his probation by missing a meeting, he would have only gone to jail for the 30 days immediately, the judge added 20 years because of the lengths he went to to avoid the 30 day sentence. The initial sentence was still only 30 days if he violated his probation. It was never 20 years for violating a child. 2 a suspended sentence means he was found guilty but was given a delayed prison sentence and put on probation and the judge will generally dismiss the case and not force the accused to serve the prison sentence if the comply with the probation, which makes this 10 times worse in my opinion. 3 I believe pedophiles deserve the death penalty and the fact that he was initially given a suspended sentence makes my blood boil. Probation for ruining a child’s life and robbing them of their innocence, but 30 years for faking his own death and insurance fraud in which no one actually got hurt 😤 that’s not justice and you can’t change my mind.
@@cereliaadduci9438old world justice was wrong fairly often but it was right more often, and you wouldn't be breathing for much longer in that justice system for assaulting a child or anyone for that matter.
I shouldn’t have read the comment section since I didn’t watch the full video because I was crying thinking she lost her husband and mom & son lost a son/father.
I bet her son was happy when he thought the guy died and when he realized it was a scam that’s when the kid’s attitude changed and was angry. What a sick woman and what a sick world we live in when a pedo gets a couple days in jail but insurance fraud gets 30 years in prison. Something’s not right here
Oh how very self righteous of you to carry shame you don't have to be accountable for. Try something less pretentious & self serving like being ashamed of not recognizing & standing against movements, organizations, lobbies, interest groups, activists, etc., that are demoralizing society creating more of these heinous people.
@@curiouser-and-curiouser no matter what people do, there will always be people who are trash, I don't mean to be so blunt and harsh but truth of the matter is people with an attitude such of yours is what the issue is, some people just don't know how to positively lead somebody on a right path, I am in no wrong to be ashamed of the people that have tainted the positive reputation humans are able to uphold. To be ashamed I am putting myself in a position where I am disappointed in negative people yet still hopeful at the possibility of humans being able to gain the positive status and take out the negative
The same reason men mow the lawn even though their wives have spent the whole week playing around. Things like that happen. It's just choices people make.
Wow. This story went in a completely different direction than I was anticipating. I feel so bad for those kids, especially Caleb. Also, congrats on 300 episodes! You are hands down my favorite story-teller on UA-cam.
That was one of the strangest stories I have heard you tell. How messed up is it that he gets 30 days for being a podophile and 30 yrs for insurance fraud. Tells you how messed up our justice system is.
That's how it is. Rapists, abusers, and pedos get a slap on the wrist, if it even goes to trial. Hell, even when women and kids are murdered it gets less jail time than drug charges or anything involving money.
I was really struck by your foundation. That's a beautiful amazing thing. My son and I lived in horrific conditions for 7 years before I could get away. If there had been something like this when we were going through our hardship, it would have made a world of a difference. I'll be promoting this. Thank you ❤
She did it for the money. She didn't care for her own son what makes you think that she would even remotely even think what happened to the 7 year old girl?
Good Grief, what a story... And WHY is it that money crimes deserve an almost life-sentance BUT vile crimes such a child assault, are such short sentences...? Something is VERY WRONG with the justice system..... Another brilliantly told tale from Mr B. Thank you so much. Love, Mel in Devon UK xx🍰🌻
Well now are you not one to not look at all the facts lol.. The why is because that is not what happened. the alleged child assault was 8 years previous (when Clay was 16) and they had zero evidence. Nothing is wrong with the justice system on this one IF you know the facts. Also the almost life-sentence was due to the revocation of the suspended sentence on the sexual assault plea. He was never convicted of sexual assault. They had no evidence so they pressured him into taking a plea deal.
@@sahian305 I don't think they care that much or realize that a body was miss in grave yard. Ohio is a felony. But also some ground keepers might be reusing the coffin once the body is decomposed enough
Not only did this guy think he was Hannah Montana and that by changing his hair he thought he would conceal his identity, no, he also did what the justice system couldn't do and gave himself the sentencing he truly deserves. Beautiful. Well done 👍
What do you mean what the justice system couldnt do? They same system judged him both times. It's just the justice system is anything but justice. It thinks that hurting children isnt as bad as ripping off an insurance company. And the reason why it thinks that is because america is ran by corporations. Title 28 section 3002 part 15a states america means federal corporation. Everything you think is true is in fact a lie. And I mean everything. The government isnt capable of telling the truth it would expose them as the criminals they truly are. Wake up people
twenty years for probation violations, but only a month-long jail sentence for assaulting a child. there's some thing *_really_* wrong with the justice system in this country.
So I recently watched a video about a mother who pimped out her 5 year old daughter for 200 dollars and the man she sold her daughter to ended up killing the little girl and the mom only got 17 years. This woman got 20 yrs for insurance fraud. Our justice system is so effed up!!!!!
That's why the judge went heavy on Molly's sentence , she took Caleb for months "THAT'S NOT DADDY, DADDY IS DEAD" while he is looking at his father. F'ckd that boy up.
I feel infinitely sorry for the little girl that Clay had raped. I feel infinitely sorry for Clay's children who were traumatized by this frightening behavior of Clay pretending to be someone else. This is shocking and horrendous.
@@shanansavoy8717 His son was traumatized and confused by Clay's weird behavior of pretending to be someone else and no longer be his friend and step father. His son prayed to get his step dad back. He was scared.
A rare gift to be able to hold attention with storytelling. Not everyone can do it. John's clearly a natural. I can imagine him doing the same when he was a Navy Seal. A bit entertainment amid the madness and fear.
I agree - he does tell a great story and he knows how to keep an audience interested without giving too much away. A true talent in every sense of the word.
*The more shocking part is him only getting 30 days for what he did.* I can't believe the coroner could not tell the difference between an old woman's skeleton structure and a young man's. The height difference and the pelvis is very different. Brunt or not a doctor could tell.
height? sure. other physical characteristics? sure. pelvis, not really. theres a very high % of women with "android" pelvis shapes. basically theres too much overlap of men and women who have the same pelvic proportions to for sure determine someones sex that way.
Right?!? Body was preserved enough that they could still tell that lungs didn't inhale any soot, but they couldn't tell this 80yo woman wasn't a guy in his twenties...
This is how you know Mr Ballen is a brilliant storyteller...I already know the story, but had to listen because I love how he tells it. This man is a true talent.
Considering Clay's crimes against children, his prison sentence is an undeserved mercy. Molly's assistance is also just awful, I hope the kid found a better life after these two were locked away.
So many questions! How did no -one notice it was that Clay was the new boyfriend. Did no -one notice that a body was dug up? How can you have such a short sentence for child assault and a massive sentence for fraud. All bizarre, All fascinating. Thank you Mr Ballen 🙂
Yes many parts to this are missing, but those parts do not make for a good story. 1) he dyed his hair and stayed out of sight - so no real looks at the guy. 2) Oh they figured out with DNA it was not him 3) The child assault allegedly happened 8 years previous when Clay was 16. They had zero evidence. They pressured Clay into that plea agreement. 4) The massive sentence was not for the fraud. They revoked his 20 year suspended sentence on the plea agreement, and all the other crimes involved. insurance fraud, arson, and desecration of a cemetery.
I don't believe this version of the story is remotely close to being accurate. Sounds like it was significantly embellished for entertainment purposes. I'm pretty sure law enforcement never for a second assumed the body in the car was Clay.
He's had his UA-cam channel for eight years now and I don't remember if it was on Twitter or on Instagram but he did mention that it wasn't even a few years and he was already getting noticed all over the place.
@@wildechild5 His videos started in 2020 (when I subbed) and it wasn't even a few years before people started recognizing him because it wasn't even a few years since he started doing videos when that comment was made.
Man imagine being that father and hearing that a few probation violations and insurance fraud was worth more time than asaulting your daughter to begin with. What a wonderful justice system we have.
I’ve been trying to avoid Mr.ballen videos for a few weeks to have a binge watch day and I didn’t even make a freaking week lol The man’s videos are just to good
As a mother, I’m disgusted that our penal system values money over virtue: 30 days for the egregious violation of a child vs 30 years for (attempting…?) insurance fraud. WHY/HOW??!? In what world is this justifiable? Should be the other way around, if anything.
they couldn't even be bothered to dig up someone of the same sex!!! how did the medical examiner miss that? even burned that badly, they should've caught it during the autopsy. I can't believe they even tried it. that poor woman's family must have been distraught.
@@locabynature I don't even want to try imagining how horrific and devastating it must feel to have your loved one desecrated in any way. I don't think I could ever make peace with it. It would most likely cause me mental and emotional trauma with no way to fix it.
@@Realuser0000 if you want to pass off a body as yourself then it needs to be the same sex as you. I don't know how they got this bullshit past a medical examiner but they can tell it's not the right sex if they actually bother.
I always like your unexpected twist in the final stage of your story. Through your immersive storytelling, it is hard to predict the unpredictable turnaround. You're a perfect storyteller, guaranteed.
Wait so the body was intact enough to see that the lungs had not inhaled soot, but not enough that they could see it was the body of an 81 year old woman? I feel like a more thorough coroner could've solved this one a lot sooner.
Sir, a title I have respect for anyone that has served, especially in the Nav, and you know hierarchy, chain of command is different. Nuff said 🫡. Glad you made it back. Few people are tried in the fire, mine was electrical grid, civilian. One thing that stands out about those of us that has been through traumatic situations as us... it's the thankfulness to be alive and not be afraid? Help no IM being censorship f
I’ve heard of this story. It was a episode on Forensic Files. I remember because in high school I took a forensics class and in this case we did a chapter on fire patterns and we watched this episode of Forensic Files as an example. It’s just a mind blowing case.
Between the Podcast, making UA-cam videos, coordinating the Mr. Ballen Foundation, and being a father, I don’t know how you do it all! And you have yet to disappoint with the content. I’ve been a fan for years. Thank you John, for all that you do.
@@우사민-r3cAlso he is a super hero, he's John b Allen the NAVY SEAL story teller of the decade...The man is a true hero in my eyes and lot's of others eyes as well....Wish i could get to meet him someday he's a humble man .. Blessings to you and your family always from Puerto Rico with lots of love
He certainly found his niche. I enjoy it too, but all in all, it should take about one full workday to produce the amount of weekly content posted on social media. He also has employees who assist in story research & writing. It’s understandable how Ballen juggles things.
Honestly when I saw CAREFULLY LAID PLAN, I honestly thought that Molly had killed Clay and staged his death. That twist at the end got me, and MrBallen revealed the twist so well with his amazing narration ability
I felt bad for the 4 year old. Having his mind messed with at that young and knowing something was wrong but not being mature enough to understand why something was wrong.
I remember this case from somewhere else. I sadly don't remember where I saw this, but it always hurts hearing how the parents would lie and manipulate their own son. I can't imagine how confused and hurt that poor boy was when no one believed him - not even his own parents. It paints such a clear picture to me that both of them didn't care about anyone but each other and their own selfish desires. Horrible.
I've gotta say Mr.Ballen ever since I found out about the strange dark and mysterious in your story format I've noticed how passionate and caring you are with not only your work but the fans and everyone involved anyways thank you for your kindness Mr.John❤
You had me in the first half.. but i started to put two and two together before the ending was revealed. I hope the son is okay after this. I couldn't even imagine what he went through mentally, especially being so young. I wouldn't be surprised if he ends up with horrible trust issues for the rest of his life. The biggest crime they committed was messing with that poor child's head. Edit: I'd like to include the sexual assault crime against another CHILD in my statement as well. Let's hope they're never around children again. HER TOO. Because she was clearly okay with what he did to that little girl!!!
Absolutely! Although desecration of an old woman's final resting place by digging up her body and burning it to ashes is pretty high up there on the list of "worst sins" committed by these two! 😬
@@julireep278I also dont think they got charged with that at all! So 30 days for sexual assault against a child. No charges for digging up a dead body. But god forbid you commit insurance fraud, they'll give you 30 years for THAT 🙄
For a few minutes I thought she knew about what he did to that kid and decided to kill him. Little did I know she did know that but decided to protect him
I'm just disgusted and appalled all the way around this story! Just when I think there's nothing else people can do to shock me, I hear a story like this...smh. Humans are the only real monsters in this world. And the more people I meet, the more I love my dogs! 🐾🐾
I was hoping they were foiled by there own plan, and when the father of the seven year old was questioned, he would only reply "how could I have killed someone who was already dead"
For real. People can be complete monsters and total angels. Most of the monsters want you to think they're an Angel and the Angels are just hiding in their homes with their pets.
I have a friend and co worker who is also a dog trainer. About 4 years ago, we got into this debate because she said something similar as you did. Now I LOVE dogs. but, my argument was why should we choose? Why can't we love dogs AND humans? I have recently apologized and told her that she was right. I never ever thought I would be saying this. I wish I could talk to myself in the past. But these past years, I have went from an extrovert to an introvert. I just want a dog and that is it. I am so done with people and the ignorance of today.
Imagine having such despicable parents that your mother chooses a child predator and decides to lie to you about your dads real identity. Their poor kid ended up with both parents in jail, all because he couldn’t accept a short jail sentence for assaulting a young girl.
I wonder where the child’s biological father is? Hopefully he’s not a complete idiot or a-hole as it would have been great to see Caleb have some kind of decent parental figure in his life.
The fact he only got 30 days in jail for messing with a kid but 30 years for insurance fraud proves how bad the justice system is nowadays, the justice system is a complete joke
Oh stop it. He had a deferred adjudication in the sexual assault case. The case was dead, as the alleged assault occurred when he was 16 years old. Years had gone by and they were going by mostly circumstantial and hearsay evidence, so they made it deferred adjudication deal. The 30 years was for a bunch of things, including arson, desecration of a cemetery, and then the massive insurance fraud.
@@DakotaFuqualet me rephrase. Ironic that you say age is just a number when talking about a 7 year old who was sexually assaulted by a 16 year old and how justice wasn't served.
@@DakotaFuqua I agree. It very much is. I'm just saying the phrase " age is just a number" is not what you should say because that's LITERALLY what pedophiles believe
I keep thinking how confused that poor kid must have been. “Yay! Daddy is home!” “No he’s not, and if you keep saying he is, mommy will get in trouble and have to go away for a long time.” No wonder he was acting out. He was being lied to and couldn’t comprehend what was going on.
I remember watching this on “Accident, Murder or Suicide” and there was an added detail in regards to this case. The elderly woman, whose corpse they used to fake his death, was deathly afraid of fire. In the time before her death, she strictly asked her caretakers NOT to cremate her and bury her instead. And Clay randomly used her for this. It’s so tragic, but luckily she’s back in her grave now.
@@Rico-Vega25 On the show, investigators said the body was so thoroughly destroyed by the fire that they couldn’t even use the body’s teeth to identify it, it was too damaged. It wasn’t until police discovered Clay was alive and admitted he dug up one of the bodies to use as a decoy that police went to the local cemetery and found one of the graves appearing freshly dug up. That was how they identified the old woman as well as the story with her last caretakers.
@@IrishPlagueDoctor No, they used DNA from a hip bone & asked his mother for a sample to compare it to. They suspected the new boyfriend was him before they arrested them. They're not stupid. These story tellers & tv shows stretch the truth to make it more suspenseful for the audience.
Once the autopsy determined that the incident was intentional, you would think it would become a priority for the investigation to positively ID the body through dental or DNA considering the ID of the victim came from every investor’s primary suspect and starting point. A lot of UC man hours could have been allocated elsewhere had that happened.
@@Subjohny the body was so destroyed they didnt measure the pelvis. it is not as shocking as your seem to believe. your belief they were "mistaken" is what is actually funny
It's is horrific about the molestation, endangering children, etc. It's appalling he would get so little time, but I'd like to mention the corpse he dug up and how her family must have felt finding out grandma had been disinterred and used in a crime while being roasted. I'm sure they were grief stricken all over again.
I KNOW, were they not even charged for that horrific part of it? And someone in another comment said that the old woman's family said she had a lifelong fear of FIRE, and even worried about being accidentally cremated instead of buried after her death. And look what happened to her ....
@@audreymuzingo933 Yes they were charged it was part of the sentence.. He leaves parts out.. like how the sexual assault had happened when Clay was 16 and 8 years ago.
Imagine getting off so easy on a horrific crime like sexual assault on a child, only getting 30 days in county jail, not even state prison, but then thinking that even that isn’t good enough, so you fake your own death just to get out of doing 30 days and it ends upgetting you 30 years
It's absolutely sick how they took that child's dad from him, gave him back, then convinced him that it wasn't his dad. I wonder how long they were planning to keep up the charade. I pray their son and the 7 year old survivor are doing well🙏🏽❤
The first clue that something was wrong here wasn’t that there weren’t any skid marks but that Clay left the house at 11pm but the car was on fire at roughly 6am. I mean, 40 miles wouldn’t take 7 hours!! Also, irrespective of Molly’s involvement in the cover-up & insurance fraud, the fact that she stayed with a POS that admitted to sexually assaulting a child, was enough for her serving 20 years. Clay should be in jail for life.
I never understood why they make such a big deal out of skid marks in wrecks like this. If someone fell asleep there would be none, or if they got disoriented by the curves, turned the wrong angle and drove off a ledge
I love how I can actually visualise the stories like a movie thanks to Mr Ballen's great story telling and the photos to go with them 💖 Can't believe Molly is out already and just hope her kids are ok and not completely scarred by this 😬
How he got a light sentence for assaulting a child is beyond me smfh but then got 30 plus 20 more years for what he did after the fact is even crazier! And molly being okay with what he did to a child is even more disgusting, she really tried to help him avoid getting jail time smh. They should’ve both rotted in jail..
She actually had no affection or long lost love for him. It was the money she was interested in. She didn't even care for the child. The reason she was protecting him was that she wanted her own skin to be saved.
What a twisted story! Mr.Ballen, you’re such a great storyteller, I’ve never missed an episode since I subbed, appreciate your hard work, this is definitely entertaining
Best part of this story was his "friend" saying "the world is better off with out him" during his eulogy that is great.
Pure gold.
And Clay would get to hear about that too 💯
Definitely a “well damn” moment.
He did just sexually assault a 7 year old girl… nobody likes that
When I heard him say that I just said "DAM THAT BETRAYAL""😂😂
The fact she tried to help him avoid jail time for violating a child is beyond infuriating.
Especially since they had a 1 yo daughter. If he would sexually assault one child he would do it to his own. Them both going to prison saved that kid from harm when she got older. This was Karma more than anything.
The fact that she looks that ugly but can find a man is beyond comprehension
Especially since they have a daughter together 🤦
You aint lying. It was despicable. I'm so glad justice caught up with him. Atleast the father can now get alittle piece of mind.
crazy the lengths blind love can take u 🫠
Let me get this straight. Clay originally had ONLY 30 days of jail time for sexually assaulting a child, But committing insurance fraud landed him 30 years….. crazy world we live in
That's exactly what I was thinking! We indeed live in an upside down world
Right?? At least the father of that kid gets a 2nd chance at redemption
Totally insane
Exactly what I was thinking!!!
Crazy
23:33 30 days for child abuse 20 years for fraud does anyone see the problem with this is anyone else like what the hell 30 days insurance companies do not take kindly man I could say so much worse but I don't want to be banned
It's screwed up
Yeah. It’s bullshit. Bullshit bullshit bullshit.
Insurance fraud gets more jail time than murder or sexual assault. The system is messed up. Great story telling Mr Ballen!
It seems Clayton Daniels was going to face more jail time the his sexual abuse crime and so to escape it and to get insurance money, he staged his own death.
The system serves the rich. If you fuck with their money there's hell to pay, but if you do something to a poor person then ehh who cares.
@@colecampbell1906😔
@@colecampbell1906 this system is universal. It's not money that is evil, it's the money minded, greedy souls who are evil.
It wasn't murder, it was grave robbery and desecrating a corpse. They didn't kill anyone to fake his death. He dug up and stole a dead body
I have to question Molly’s judgement in leaving her kids with someone who assaulted a 7y.o.
In my opinion it’s a case of Molly meeting her own needs rather than the needs of her children - she clearly exposed her own vulnerable children to a sexual predator. I really hope the children no longer live with her!
@@Suelyn13 If she did 20 yrs in prison they would be adults by the time she was released.
@@djg5950 near the end of the video he says Molly was paroled
Agreed totally insane! Leave them alone with, be in a relationship with, etc.
She knew what she was doing, she is as deranged as he is
30 days for messing with a kid but 20 YEARS for insurance fraud. You can really see who the justice system serves
Our justice system and our political system are servants of special interests and large companies. We are just nuisances in the way of profits.
@@thepapschmearmd No one agrees with the laws and yet they remain unchanged. That's why calling it a "democratic society" is just propaganda. It's a corporate society with window dressing.
@@thepapschmearmd No one agrees with the laws and yet they remain unchanged. That's why calling it a "democratic society" is just propaganda. It's a corporate society with window dressing.
2 undercover officers sent not to catch a p3do... but to save a conpany 110k. The cost of 2 officers was cheaper than paying out.
The bankers, of course. Specifically, international financiers.
The fact that Molly decided to help Clay avoid his abysmally light sentence for sexual assualt and just stage a whole accident while also desecrating an old woman's body is appalling. Like are you serious??
Well it was probably more for the 110k but i hear you all the same
This aspect really disgusted me. What type of....Beast in human form could stand by a man...no not a man, a monster,- like that whilst fully knowing that he was a pedo child rapist? It is truly disturbing, sickening to know that there are such 'Things' as that out there on our planet.
@@malcolmcarter1726 bro it's just a woman. Now don't assume I intend to say all women are like her--I mean nothing she did is outside of human nature and there are other humans doing the human things she did right now. Beware that fact.
She is also like that man.
I’m a nurse. I care for a blind elderly fellow who loves to listen to MrBallen. We listen to a different story everyday. He’s really such a great storyteller.
I love that you do that with him. ❤
That’s amazing❤️ I love that you’re doing that with him
That is really sweet! And also a tough job. Thank you for looking after someone that most people would otherwise ignore or mistreat
That is so sweet! Much love to both of you ❤🌺
Thank you for your service 🙏🏼
Lol i love the friend that spoke honestly at the funeral saying the world's better off without him. So many times just because someone dies they become the best person in the world the 'light up the room, give the shirt off their back' types.
That’s what I thought. I laughed so hard at the probabilities of almost everyone there agreeing too. Then the amount of confidence they had to only dye his hair and go right back to the house. It’s all hilarious except what he did to a 7 yr old. Sick.
you are so right about how after truly awful people pass...it turns into...they were the kindest blah blah blah person so walk the earth...smh
It’s even funnier that he’s alive and got to hear that lol!
The prank you suggested, is very dangerous. I hope and pray nobody actually does it
there was a guy I went to high school with who had like only a handful of "friends" and no one really close to him, but a lot of enemies.. dude was a known dealer and a banger.. over winter break he had a deal in the school parking lot go wrong, he got shot, and tried to walk home afterwards, but ended up bleeding out in the snow on the football field...... you would've thought we'd lost our school mascot the way people reacted! he got a full page in the yearbook that year and again when our class graduated, suddenly he had so many friends, people were in counseling sessions during classes cuz they were so sad. it was frickin stupid. a total asshole lowlife got what he deserved.
The penalty for hurting an insurance company is far worse than the penalty for hurting children
Not if I were president.
There must've been some legal issue with the case for the sexual assault. Probably got a plea deal because of it with the light sentence with an agreement to be on probation and if he violated probation it would be repealed. Makes sense because he got hit with an additional 20 years for the probation violation. He got the maximum sentence for both of these crimes he committed.
Of course, it is. How silly of us to think that it would be otherwise.
well duh, insurance companies have lobbyists.
@@taylorbug9 being president won't change a damn thing, the government isn't incharge of insurance agencies the US, they're private insurance companies. In Canada, it's illegal for our politicians to lobby with corporations and there is a legal cap on election spending for campaigns. Personally I'd you were to get into US politics, that would be the first thing I'd personally address, so you guys can finally tell big Pharma where they can shove their outrageous prices.
Okay but that kid, Caleb, yelling “I love you, dad” up at the sky is just heartbreaking.
His child molester dad?
Yeah we got to keep in mind he would have probably assaulted his kid one day as well for the type of person he was.
30 days for ruining a child’s life forever but you take some money that doesn’t belong to you and suddenly you get 30 years… the “justice” system hard at work folks
Well honestly they paid into that insurance. We all do and ost the time we all never use what we pay into. Now how they did was illegal. What sucks is she got 20 and barely stayed in prison for it. He will die in there and she barely was punished.
Money is more important than people, didn't you know that? (Extreme sarcasm)
The justice system seemingly prides themselves in letting high risk individuals off easily, while punishing people for petty offenses with extreme consequences for their crimes
He stole from a corporation. He should have opened a business and committed wage theft like most wealthy
Law enforcement dropped the ball at the beginning of the accident investigation as well. Even with severe burns, a mediocre forensics investigator should be able to tell the difference between a man and a woman.
The moment it was clear that she was okay with having her children around a man that was convicted of sexually assaulting a child, I knew something wasn’t right about her because she didn’t care about the possible danger he was to her own children.
She obviously was interested in the money part. Not him, not get child. Just the money.
Tbh that just made me think she killed him. If they were together for years and then he did that I could imagine she just pretends she's behind him still, but then kills him for the money.
@@Veronica.A. That's not true or else she wouldn't have had him come back. He was dead as far as anyone else knew so she had the perfect opportunity to cut him out and take all the money, but she didn't.
@@colecampbell1906 well, he could have exposed her plan if she dumped him. He would be like if I'm going down,you're also going down with me.
@@Veronica.A. hell no he couldn't. He wouldn't be going down, just wouldn't be with her. Turning himself in would get him more time than it gets her, and there's no proof she knew anything about it. She can just say he's a liar and did it all himself.
The most upsetting thing about this is the sentencing: 30 days for child rape, but 30 years for insurance fraud 🙄 Disgusting!
It was 30 days for something else.
@@cruelpulse It was sexual assault of a 7 year old minor. I checked, couldn't believe it either
Remember, we don't have the details on what did or did not happen. It's easy to hear "sexual assault on a child" and get triggered, but who knows what actually took place. That sentence kind of suggests there is more to that part of the story.
@@aaront2192 you really need details on that? It's assault on a child in a sexual manner. 🤨 That can't be good in any way.
@@aaront2192bro, if hearing "sex assault on a child" doesn't trigger you, I'm gonna assume you're a diddler too. There are no misunderstandings when it comes to be convicted of sexual assault against a child. I sincerely hope anyone who thinks there's any explanation that makes those charges invalid is forced to eat a cactus with a lemon juice chaser.
Only 30 days for the s/a of a child is just wicked
Right? They always get such light sentences.
Disgusting.
Agreed. It's ridiculous. The justice system serves the pedophiles
Who drives to their Mom's house at 11pm, a 40 mile drive, without warning her they're coming first? Also I am left with many questions about that autopsy.
I didn't even think about the autopsy. You'd think there would be some anatomical evidence that the person they were examining was a female... I guess it was all burned away?
"Eh, some dead body, as good as any. And maybe that young man was an elderly woman, who knows." The guy who performed the autopsy probably
Right? How could they not tell the difference between a young man and an elderly woman? There should be questions about the capabilities of the person performing autopsies there. It calls all other autopsies performed there into question, too. That's a pretty big mess up.
@@jenx5870 Maybe the coroner thought Clay identified as a woman and mistakenly assumed they's gender.
@@patron8597"this body had been dead for 5-10 years, sounds about right"
Why would anyone go to those extremes for a man that did that to a 7 year old little girl? It's disgusting.
His wife did. For the money obviously.
@@Veronica.A. No, she did it because she loved him. Just a shitty person in love with a shitty person.
Women.. ☕
@@Rexorazor men also...☕
It's actually the money here doesn't matter man or woman.
@@Rexorazor you are generalizing women. Not all women are like than. I've been with the same man for last 20 years and we are still having the best times of our lives.
Out of everything Clay have done, it's wild how it was the insurance fraud that got him 30 years.
Very "Al Capone"-ish.
It wasn't insurance fraud that got him. He had a plea agreement and it got revoked plus all the other charges added up to make 30 years
This sentence is insane for fraud which nobody got hurt. This tell us who the justice system is serving.
Isn't capitalism grand?
@@natsinthebelfry Capitalism is not the problem, the problem is people who abuse it, just like alcohol or anything you can think of.
This story just confirms how I feel about the justice system. You mess with children or any human being slap on the wrist maybe...mess with their money... throwing the book at you.
Blame the legislators. You vote for them! So blame yourself!
@@trawlins396 Goes to show what you know. I haven't voted Democrat or Republican since '08 so nope I'm blaming them 😆
@@mariotaylor2390 well then you really have nothing to complain about!!
@@mariotaylor2390 people who do NOTHING are just as bad as people who do the wrong thing!
"The only thing necessary for the prosper of evil is for good men to do nothing."
Edmund Burke
And even less for animals.
the fact that she had a one year old daughter and still wanted to stay with him after he sexually assaulted a 7 year old girl is revolting
That's exactly what I was thinking
@@kaitlyn3077 Me too.
Sick attracts sick.
I felt sorry for her until I heard that. Any woman who stays with a monster like that is equally as disgusting as the pedo.
For many women being with someone is better than being with no-one. Especially when they have a young family that needs supporting.
Can you imagine IF the father of the abused little girl had not had an alibi for that night, that man who was rightfully distraught about what happened to his daughter could have been arrested possibly convicted and put into prison even potentially put on death row all because of these evil selfish people!
Never would have happened, they knew that body wasn't clay
They would not charge a child’s father with SA just because they can’t find the actual rapist
@@CharlieApples That wasn't my concern, my concern was that the child's father could have been wrongfully convicted of murdering the rapist as revenge and in Texas he could have received the death penelty as a result, luckily the rapist is an idiot and used an elderly woman's remains but if he had used a younger males remains it could have turned out differently.
@@amerwiccanandproud Agreed and people get imprisoned for crimes they didn't commit every year.
Totally agree with you, it’s like perfectly primed for false arrest & conviction. The fact they couldn’t differentiate between the bodies is just ludicrous though, boggles my mind.
300 episodes and I ain’t missed a single one! Congrats mrballen u legend.
Mrballen is my inspiration..my parents said if I get 20k followers They'd buy me a better camera for recording..begging u guys, literally begging.
There's always one 😂 I keep thinking I saw them all and every now and then I find one I never saw before end it's Christmas every time 😂
I appreciate the support! 🙏❤
@@MrBallenhi
The ultimate groupie right here 😂
Ive been listening to Mr.Ballen for over a year now, never would I thought he would cover a story of someone I actually knew.
I was locked up at Wallace unit ( texas prison in colorado city/ west texas )with Clayton for about 8 years in the same dorm.
They call him goose in prison.
Loves Harley’s, loves tattoos, and his a Luciferian in prison.
I knew he had a sex related charge because he was known to be a sex offender but never did I imagine the whole story. Needless to say , almost everyone in there is guilty of severe crimes, but to know I played chess , talked to on a daily basis , and even worked out with him at the rec yard , would molest a 7 year old girl and dig someone up out of a grave and set them on fire, it’s unbelievable.
Is it not true what they say about getting your papers read?.... I thought everyone in prison gets their papers read by the gangs and essentially all the people in the prison know exactly what you're in there for.
On top of that, I thought pedophiles got separated into protective custody specifically for this reason...
it is very sad to know that someone can go to prison for 30 years for insurance fraud and fake their own death, and for assaulting a 7 year old girl you get only 30 days...
It's so unfair and unrealistic!
@@anthonywilliams9852 It's entirely realistic. That's the whole problem.
I guess trying to take money from the US is a bigger crime than child abuse
He was a crusty nonce and the problem is far more widespread than we think
It's beyond messed up and unimaginabley revolting
The amount of disgusting things he did with no apparent remorse is staggering. However the emotional damage he inflicted on that poor boy Caleb is truly mind blowing. It’s one of the most inexcusable acts of cruel behavior that a parent figure could ever do to their child. Honestly so bothered by that.
You're right.
What good would remorse do for anyone who would comment about it ?
I have seen this video of two officers ordering taco bell and what you are describing happen, my issue is, I can't seem to locate the original video? Anyone?
Probably abortion is worse
How is there no punishment for, y'know, literal GRAVE ROBBING?!! He actually dug up someone from their grave! How is *that* not against the law?
Yes exactly!! I was thinking the same
Probably got dropped as part of the plea deal
What is that? "Abuse of a corpse" or something? I've heard stories of that and it usually gets you probation, though it was probably dropped here. Prob some kind of deal. He probably would've had the death penalty for insurance fraud and they dropped it to 30 years. (Sarcasm). That poor little boy will prob have trust issues & such for life.😢
Evidently, in the US, insurance fraud (thus robbing company managers and shareholders of a little profit) will land you with a substantially heavier penalty than desecrating a grave, destroying the corpse of another's family member, and assaulting a poor little 7 year old child.
It's a mad world.
It is but abuse of a corpse is not a crime that carries much of a penalty. The bigger question is HOW DID ANYONE MISTAKE THE SKELETON OF AN 80 YEAR OLD WOMAN FOR A YOUNG MAN. Did they make ANY effort to properly ID the body? Wtf
At first I thought Molly had murdered her husband and I was glad because of what he did to that little girl. I hate the fact that she actually helped him stage it to protect him from his sentence.
I hope Caleb is okay, that poor baby..not only was his bio dad not around, the dad that stepped up was a piece of absolute trash. And his mom wasn’t any better. The younger sister too, I hope they both are doing awesome and thriving in adulthood!
Hopefully they aren't with their money minded, greedy, selfish biological parents.
That is my actually my first name but yea I do hope he is with different, much better parents.
I hope the 7 year old girl who was sexually assaulted by their father is okay
@@lulemon3359 yeah
@@lulemon3359 she must be okay. It's kind of sad that God gives power to people to hurt children and His innocent creations:(
The fact that they couldn’t identify it was an old woman’s corpse even burnt is a little insane as well🧐
They used an accelerant so it burnt hotter.
@@KelliMariePy if they could tell there was no soot in the lungs then they definitely had bones… 🤷♀️
Didn't anyone notice a corpse had been dug up?
The body turned out to be that of 81 year old Charlotte Davis, who had died six months before the crash was staged. Embalming fluid is very flammable.
@@StarkGrimmFan Not necessarily, there's a weird thing called thermal amputation where bones are disintegrated but tissue remains. Bone changes such as osteoporosis or breaks may also be missed in autopsy especially back early 2000's. I'm a vet student so sometimes I go down these rabbit holes. The body is weird as heck but incompetency can't be ruled out lol 😂
@@hypsyzygy506 Embalming fluid would deffo act as an accelerant on top of light fluid. Corpses are unfortunately dug up a lot but not noticed especially if it was a grave that's to the back of the cemetery or neglected. People are honestly just crazy.
Molly’s poor kids were likely ruined over this. The two of them were truly despicable. I hope her children are being raised by kind people who can help them.
Sad but these kids were doomed from the beginning
Her children are not CHILDREN anymore. Use your head!
I hope there living there best life rn. Nobody deserves what happend to them
@@catkinsella651 *they're and
*their.
It's not complicated.
@trawlins396 it's online I don't care about grammar u get the concept... jeez...
What I found heartbreaking was how traumatised her son was being told the person he views as his father is dead, only to see him again and being gaslit into believing it’s not him. What kind of mother puts her child through that so that she doesn’t have to go through 30 days of being without her pedo boyfriend??? And don’t even get me started on 30 days for molestation and 30 years for fraud 😡😡😡
30 days for pedophelia, but 30 years for insurance fraud?!?! Wtf is wrong with the justice system?! 😤
I did some research
1, the 30 years prison sentence was for arson, insurance fraud, desecration of a cemetery and was given an additional 20 years for violating his probation. This means that the initial sentencing for violating a 7 year old was probation, only probation, if he had just violated his probation by missing a meeting, he would have only gone to jail for the 30 days immediately, the judge added 20 years because of the lengths he went to to avoid the 30 day sentence. The initial sentence was still only 30 days if he violated his probation. It was never 20 years for violating a child.
2 a suspended sentence means he was found guilty but was given a delayed prison sentence and put on probation and the judge will generally dismiss the case and not force the accused to serve the prison sentence if the comply with the probation, which makes this 10 times worse in my opinion.
3 I believe pedophiles deserve the death penalty and the fact that he was initially given a suspended sentence makes my blood boil. Probation for ruining a child’s life and robbing them of their innocence, but 30 years for faking his own death and insurance fraud in which no one actually got hurt 😤 that’s not justice and you can’t change my mind.
It's run by pedos
@@johnstuartmill1500the justice system sucks a*s most people know this
Nothing it's working exactly how the Democrats want it to work.
@@cereliaadduci9438old world justice was wrong fairly often but it was right more often, and you wouldn't be breathing for much longer in that justice system for assaulting a child or anyone for that matter.
For Molly to help Clay avoid his ridiculously short jail term for sexually abusing a child is past disgusting. She's almost worse than he is.
She IS worse, in my opinion. Her poor son.
And, to leave her children with him???? Disgusting!!!
Almost? NO sher is horrible like him.
I shouldn’t have read the comment section since I didn’t watch the full video because I was crying thinking she lost her husband and mom & son lost a son/father.
I bet her son was happy when he thought the guy died and when he realized it was a scam that’s when the kid’s attitude changed and was angry. What a sick woman and what a sick world we live in when a pedo gets a couple days in jail but insurance fraud gets 30 years in prison. Something’s not right here
Im ashamed to live in a world of such heinous people
Oh how very self righteous of you to carry shame you don't have to be accountable for. Try something less pretentious & self serving like being ashamed of not recognizing & standing against movements, organizations, lobbies, interest groups, activists, etc., that are demoralizing society creating more of these heinous people.
@@curiouser-and-curiouser you must be a trump supporter!? And that is a big part of what is wrong with today's society
@@curiouser-and-curiouser no matter what people do, there will always be people who are trash, I don't mean to be so blunt and harsh but truth of the matter is people with an attitude such of yours is what the issue is, some people just don't know how to positively lead somebody on a right path, I am in no wrong to be ashamed of the people that have tainted the positive reputation humans are able to uphold. To be ashamed I am putting myself in a position where I am disappointed in negative people yet still hopeful at the possibility of humans being able to gain the positive status and take out the negative
@@curiouser-and-curiouserThey're child abusers. Maybe u should pick your battles psycho.
@@curiouser-and-curiouser nothing to say? As I thought, just an idiot trying to be better than what they really are 😂
Me barely starting out the story and wondering why she's making dinner if he's been at home with the kids all day playing around 😂
Me too!!
The same reason men mow the lawn even though their wives have spent the whole week playing around. Things like that happen. It's just choices people make.
@@johnclaybaugh9536but that's once a week, she makes dinner everyday
@@johnclaybaugh9536I’ll give your comment a like because the rest of society really doesn’t understand what equality is anymore.
Wow. This story went in a completely different direction than I was anticipating. I feel so bad for those kids, especially Caleb. Also, congrats on 300 episodes! You are hands down my favorite story-teller on UA-cam.
That was one of the strangest stories I have heard you tell. How messed up is it that he gets 30 days for being a podophile and 30 yrs for insurance fraud. Tells you how messed up our justice system is.
Thing is what most people fail to realize is that it is not your Legal system but there's 🧐
That's how it is. Rapists, abusers, and pedos get a slap on the wrist, if it even goes to trial. Hell, even when women and kids are murdered it gets less jail time than drug charges or anything involving money.
@@asha_verenot just when women or kids are murdered, you forgot someone in that list.
@@asha_veredo male murders not matter
@@condorhawk8812 you're right. They forgot non binary homosexuals.
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I was really struck by your foundation. That's a beautiful amazing thing. My son and I lived in horrific conditions for 7 years before I could get away. If there had been something like this when we were going through our hardship, it would have made a world of a difference. I'll be promoting this. Thank you ❤
God bless you!🙏
It's really tragic the emotional pain & trauma they put their poor children through believing their father was dead.
Yeah, that was sick. I hope he is okay.
It’s absolutely horrific they did that to the poor little boy. His mental health meant nothing to either 😡
Well, lucky boy. He is now hopefully not living with his parents anymore.
What's more horrific is that Clay SA'd a child and received only 30 days jail for it!
I know
I agree a nasty couple all around I hope the kids can get healing
@purnimaamin4085 The kids are in Molly's parents' care. Hopefully, it's a safe, loving home.
The fact that she did this for him dispite him doing what he did to that little girl is Despicable.
Prime example of people will do anything for money
She did it for the money. She didn't care for her own son what makes you think that she would even remotely even think what happened to the 7 year old girl?
She was either just as sick or an abused woman.
If you want to change anything first you have to stop giving Transgender WyteBoys a Bigger Woman's voice then Biological Women 😅
@@lericomathis7191I'm not convinced it was all about the money. I'm going to guess that keeping him out of jail was #1. The money was a bonus.
Good Grief, what a story...
And WHY is it that money crimes deserve an almost life-sentance BUT vile crimes such a child assault, are such short sentences...? Something is VERY WRONG with the justice system.....
Another brilliantly told tale from Mr B.
Thank you so much.
Love, Mel in Devon UK xx🍰🌻
Well now are you not one to not look at all the facts lol.. The why is because that is not what happened. the alleged child assault was 8 years previous (when Clay was 16) and they had zero evidence. Nothing is wrong with the justice system on this one IF you know the facts. Also the almost life-sentence was due to the revocation of the suspended sentence on the sexual assault plea. He was never convicted of sexual assault. They had no evidence so they pressured him into taking a plea deal.
That's Congress for you
They should've charged them for grave robbing too
@@sahian305 I don't think they care that much or realize that a body was miss in grave yard. Ohio is a felony. But also some ground keepers might be reusing the coffin once the body is decomposed enough
Seems like allot of people in charge are pedophiles themselves.... So they don't care.
Not only did this guy think he was Hannah Montana and that by changing his hair he thought he would conceal his identity, no, he also did what the justice system couldn't do and gave himself the sentencing he truly deserves. Beautiful. Well done 👍
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What do you mean what the justice system couldnt do? They same system judged him both times. It's just the justice system is anything but justice. It thinks that hurting children isnt as bad as ripping off an insurance company. And the reason why it thinks that is because america is ran by corporations. Title 28 section 3002 part 15a states america means federal corporation. Everything you think is true is in fact a lie. And I mean everything. The government isnt capable of telling the truth it would expose them as the criminals they truly are. Wake up people
Good point
That’s what you call Poetic Justice 💕. Just makes you feel good . But the Justice System is so Jacked 🤬
twenty years for probation violations, but only a month-long jail sentence for assaulting a child. there's some thing *_really_* wrong with the justice system in this country.
There's a lot wrong and it all revolves around money!
Legitimately makes me sick thinking about this
Sounds like the judge needs to be kicked off the bench.
So I recently watched a video about a mother who pimped out her 5 year old daughter for 200 dollars and the man she sold her daughter to ended up killing the little girl and the mom only got 17 years. This woman got 20 yrs for insurance fraud. Our justice system is so effed up!!!!!
What they did to that poor little boy, her son, is despicable. He’s clearly very traumatized.
Obviously they're both okay with child abuse.
I came here to find this comment. Him shouting to the sky... that's heavy. Poor little boy loved his daddy. Had no idea what a dirt bag he was.
@@ryanrents126and what about the mother who was equally involved. She is a piece of shit too.
That's why the judge went heavy on Molly's sentence , she took Caleb for months "THAT'S NOT DADDY, DADDY IS DEAD" while he is looking at his father. F'ckd that boy up.
Gaslighting a 4-year-old is as bad as it gets.
I feel infinitely sorry for the little girl that Clay had raped. I feel infinitely sorry for Clay's children who were traumatized by this frightening behavior of Clay pretending to be someone else. This is shocking and horrendous.
What did he do to his children???
@@shanansavoy8717 His son was traumatized and confused by Clay's weird behavior of pretending to be someone else and no longer be his friend and step father. His son prayed to get his step dad back. He was scared.
@@gerarddearie she very much did.
And rip to the women whos body was tampered with
I doubt he raped the little girl. There is no way in hell he would only get 30 days for that.
A rare gift to be able to hold attention with storytelling. Not everyone can do it. John's clearly a natural. I can imagine him doing the same when he was a Navy Seal. A bit entertainment amid the madness and fear.
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I agree - he does tell a great story and he knows how to keep an audience interested without giving too much away. A true talent in every sense of the word.
I've listened to one of his podcasts, only because of curiosity, but find his in person story telling MUCH more enjoyable!! Thank you Mr. Ballen!!
*The more shocking part is him only getting 30 days for what he did.*
I can't believe the coroner could not tell the difference between an old woman's skeleton structure and a young man's. The height difference and the pelvis is very different. Brunt or not a doctor could tell.
height? sure. other physical characteristics? sure. pelvis, not really. theres a very high % of women with "android" pelvis shapes. basically theres too much overlap of men and women who have the same pelvic proportions to for sure determine someones sex that way.
I agree, proudamerican.
Right?!? Body was preserved enough that they could still tell that lungs didn't inhale any soot, but they couldn't tell this 80yo woman wasn't a guy in his twenties...
This is how you know Mr Ballen is a brilliant storyteller...I already know the story, but had to listen because I love how he tells it. This man is a true talent.
Considering Clay's crimes against children, his prison sentence is an undeserved mercy. Molly's assistance is also just awful, I hope the kid found a better life after these two were locked away.
I doubt that the kid wouldn't be traumatized albeit for a brief time.
@@MrBallenPodcasteditstraumatized and confused as fuck
Me too
So many questions! How did no -one notice it was that Clay was the new boyfriend. Did no -one notice that a body was dug up? How can you have such a short sentence for child assault and a massive sentence for fraud. All bizarre, All fascinating. Thank you Mr Ballen 🙂
Yes many parts to this are missing, but those parts do not make for a good story.
1) he dyed his hair and stayed out of sight - so no real looks at the guy.
2) Oh they figured out with DNA it was not him
3) The child assault allegedly happened 8 years previous when Clay was 16. They had zero evidence. They pressured Clay into that plea agreement.
4) The massive sentence was not for the fraud. They revoked his 20 year suspended sentence on the plea agreement, and all the other crimes involved. insurance fraud, arson, and desecration of a cemetery.
I don't believe this version of the story is remotely close to being accurate. Sounds like it was significantly embellished for entertainment purposes. I'm pretty sure law enforcement never for a second assumed the body in the car was Clay.
@@JakeKoeniginitially, why wouldn't they believe it was Clay?
@@JakeKoenig I'm thinking they knew within days that it wasn't clay. Police don't share everything they know with suspects.
I believe the story is fake
What a cruel thing to do to your own child. Just heartbreaking.
Her being able to be with a man that sexually assaulted a child is HORRENDOUS. But to help him evade punishment??? Huh????
Losers think alike, which is why they are so happy together.
@@41GeckoExactly. She wasn't the sweet girl everyone thought she was. Her true colors came out.
Makes you go hmmmm, he had a one year old daughter, thank God he will not be able to harm her. What was her mother thinking?
Sounds about white
I wouldn’t be surprised if Mr. Ballen gets recognized in public on a regular basis now. This channel is amazing!
He's had his UA-cam channel for eight years now and I don't remember if it was on Twitter or on Instagram but he did mention that it wasn't even a few years and he was already getting noticed all over the place.
Yes it is!
@@wildechild5 His videos started in 2020 (when I subbed) and it wasn't even a few years before people started recognizing him because it wasn't even a few years since he started doing videos when that comment was made.
Man imagine being that father and hearing that a few probation violations and insurance fraud was worth more time than asaulting your daughter to begin with. What a wonderful justice system we have.
Seems Luke it's only crimes against corporations are the only things punished these days
What's even more crazy is that like 70% of the population think murder is okay as long as it's a child in their mother's womb. 😮
Yes but as soon as clay went to prison I would become “pen pals” w some homies on his cell block😅
@@LucidLoki I'd become a cellmate and cut his jugular. Then admit to it.
I’ve been trying to avoid Mr.ballen videos for a few weeks to have a binge watch day and I didn’t even make a freaking week lol
The man’s videos are just to good
Nothing gets your appetite ready for dinner like a 23 minute crime story.
Too funny. I was prepping dinner while listening. LOL
😂
I prefer to watch while I’ll eat
Taco bell anyone?
@@Dont_Read_My_Picture What's your name
As a mother, I am appalled that they intentionally put Clay's mom through that! Despicable!
So no sympathy for the poor 4 yr old? I have a 4 yr old son and hes all i could think about watching this
@@Unethical_Ethical_HackTips It's sad for both of them
As a mother, I’m disgusted that our penal system values money over virtue: 30 days for the egregious violation of a child vs 30 years for (attempting…?) insurance fraud. WHY/HOW??!? In what world is this justifiable? Should be the other way around, if anything.
Maybe she was also in on the scam?
@@Unethical_Ethical_HackTipsfor real!
I love that I never know which direction it’s going, I never know who is good or who is bad initially! Such good storytelling Mr B!!
16:57 i'm sorry but him screaming "i love you daddy" with so much passion just made me audibly wheeze... 😂
They should also be convicted for what they did to the deceased lady!!! 🤬🤬🤬
they couldn't even be bothered to dig up someone of the same sex!!! how did the medical examiner miss that? even burned that badly, they should've caught it during the autopsy. I can't believe they even tried it. that poor woman's family must have been distraught.
@@locabynature I don't even want to try imagining how horrific and devastating it must feel to have your loved one desecrated in any way. I don't think I could ever make peace with it. It would most likely cause me mental and emotional trauma with no way to fix it.
@@Realuser0000 if you want to pass off a body as yourself then it needs to be the same sex as you. I don't know how they got this bullshit past a medical examiner but they can tell it's not the right sex if they actually bother.
@@Realuser0000Men and women obviously share different DNA. That's how they were able to determine the remains were that of a woman.
I'm sure they probably were.
I always like your unexpected twist in the final stage of your story.
Through your immersive storytelling, it is hard to predict the unpredictable turnaround.
You're a perfect storyteller, guaranteed.
He is
Wait so the body was intact enough to see that the lungs had not inhaled soot, but not enough that they could see it was the body of an 81 year old woman?
I feel like a more thorough coroner could've solved this one a lot sooner.
Oh they took DNA and did figure out it was not him.
Wow I hadn't picked up on that . Good one
Have you ever lived in "small-town Amer"?
The dynamics of small-town life are quite different than urban living, especially when "mob"rules apply
Sir, a title I have respect for anyone that has served, especially in the Nav, and you know hierarchy, chain of command is different. Nuff said 🫡. Glad you made it back. Few people are tried in the fire, mine was electrical grid, civilian.
One thing that stands out about those of us that has been through traumatic situations as us... it's the thankfulness to be alive and not be afraid? Help no IM being censorship f
i am in fact, a fan of the strange, dark, and mysterious delivered in story format.
I’ve heard of this story. It was a episode on Forensic Files. I remember because in high school I took a forensics class and in this case we did a chapter on fire patterns and we watched this episode of Forensic Files as an example. It’s just a mind blowing case.
@@Dont_Read_My_PictureOk we wont
I see
I also saw this episode on Forensic Files. I kept thinking where had I heard this. Very interesting story and Mr. Ballen told it so well
👀 👀 👀@@Dont_Read_My_Picture👀 👀
Did my comment get marked as spam and deleted, even though it wasn't spam? Lol
Between the Podcast, making UA-cam videos, coordinating the Mr. Ballen Foundation, and being a father, I don’t know how you do it all! And you have yet to disappoint with the content. I’ve been a fan for years. Thank you John, for all that you do.
He does have an amazing team that helps him including members of his own family.
Years ??? I was an early subscriber, subbed in the early thousands and that was in 2020. He's pretty new.
@@우사민-r3cAlso he is a super hero, he's John b Allen the NAVY SEAL story teller of the decade...The man is a true hero in my eyes and lot's of others eyes as well....Wish i could get to meet him someday he's a humble man .. Blessings to you and your family always from Puerto Rico with lots of love
He certainly found his niche. I enjoy it too, but all in all, it should take about one full workday to produce the amount of weekly content posted on social media. He also has employees who assist in story research & writing. It’s understandable how Ballen juggles things.
@@JohnDoe-qz1qlI was about to say the same thing 😂
Such a satisfying ending. Chimo, trying to avoid a 30-day sentence, gets himself the sentence he deserves in the first place.
I have seen this episode on Forensic files. Mr. Ballen did 💯% justice
Honestly when I saw CAREFULLY LAID PLAN, I honestly thought that Molly had killed Clay and staged his death. That twist at the end got me, and MrBallen revealed the twist so well with his amazing narration ability
I was hoping that she did. Lol
"This man was clay Daniels" with his picture coming on screen scared me more than any paranormal activity movie 😂
I thought so too
I felt bad for the 4 year old. Having his mind messed with at that young and knowing something was wrong but not being mature enough to understand why something was wrong.
What about the 7 year old that got raped
@@jeremys3951 obviously that’s bad too
Hopefully the little boy comes out okay
one donesn't need to be mature to understand
I remember this case from somewhere else. I sadly don't remember where I saw this, but it always hurts hearing how the parents would lie and manipulate their own son. I can't imagine how confused and hurt that poor boy was when no one believed him - not even his own parents. It paints such a clear picture to me that both of them didn't care about anyone but each other and their own selfish desires. Horrible.
Crime Zone has an episode on this case.
Good 😊story
It was also an episode on Oxygen years ago.
And Forensic Files
If you think their little charade hurt the kid wait till he's old enough to understand what kind of garbage people brought him into the world...
I'm surprised a mechanic would ever be out of work. They are always wanted and needed everywhere.
I've gotta say Mr.Ballen ever since I found out about the strange dark and mysterious in your story format I've noticed how passionate and caring you are with not only your work but the fans and everyone involved anyways thank you for your kindness Mr.John❤
The best way to pass my days are this man's stories. Sad thing is I've seen all of then so I wait for these ❤
Same lol
It isn't the same, but Mr. Nightmare has some good stories.
@davidchambers44 yes he does. I watch Wedigoon when I wait now lol
Me too!!!
Darkness prevails - skin walker type stuff
Urmaker- 911 calls w/back story
Lets read- Variety of ppl weird stories
You had me in the first half.. but i started to put two and two together before the ending was revealed.
I hope the son is okay after this. I couldn't even imagine what he went through mentally, especially being so young. I wouldn't be surprised if he ends up with horrible trust issues for the rest of his life. The biggest crime they committed was messing with that poor child's head.
Edit: I'd like to include the sexual assault crime against another CHILD in my statement as well. Let's hope they're never around children again. HER TOO. Because she was clearly okay with what he did to that little girl!!!
Absolutely! Although desecration of an old woman's final resting place by digging up her body and burning it to ashes is pretty high up there on the list of "worst sins" committed by these two! 😬
@@julireep278 you have a good point. However, crimes against living children tops that slightly in my mind. But I agree. Despicable.
@@julireep278I also dont think they got charged with that at all! So 30 days for sexual assault against a child. No charges for digging up a dead body. But god forbid you commit insurance fraud, they'll give you 30 years for THAT 🙄
For a few minutes I thought she knew about what he did to that kid and decided to kill him. Little did I know she did know that but decided to protect him
@@brandonayong5823 Exactly what I was thinking at first too
Mollys mugshot face says: “shit I’m in jail” clays mugshot face says: “good to be home”😂😂
I'm just disgusted and appalled all the way around this story! Just when I think there's nothing else people can do to shock me, I hear a story like this...smh. Humans are the only real monsters in this world. And the more people I meet, the more I love my dogs! 🐾🐾
Shades of Mark Twain!
I was hoping they were foiled by there own plan, and when the father of the seven year old was questioned, he would only reply "how could I have killed someone who was already dead"
For real. People can be complete monsters and total angels. Most of the monsters want you to think they're an Angel and the Angels are just hiding in their homes with their pets.
I have a friend and co worker who is also a dog trainer. About 4 years ago, we got into this debate because she said something similar as you did. Now I LOVE dogs. but, my argument was why should we choose? Why can't we love dogs AND humans? I have recently apologized and told her that she was right. I never ever thought I would be saying this. I wish I could talk to myself in the past. But these past years, I have went from an extrovert to an introvert. I just want a dog and that is it. I am so done with people and the ignorance of today.
*not me sitting here watching Mr.Ballen with my Great Dane sitting right beside me* *just me and my dog*
Only Mr. Ballen can make a story about a despicable act sound intriguing and insightful. I feel really bad for the child and Clay's mother.
Imagine having such despicable parents that your mother chooses a child predator and decides to lie to you about your dads real identity. Their poor kid ended up with both parents in jail, all because he couldn’t accept a short jail sentence for assaulting a young girl.
and I lifetime of extra trauma dealing with that fake death situation. that poor baby
Maybe he has heard what they do to those who do stuff to children and knew he would be on the wrong end of that stay.
I wonder where the child’s biological father is? Hopefully he’s not a complete idiot or a-hole as it would have been great to see Caleb have some kind of decent parental figure in his life.
@@michaelmardling3152 exactly what I was thinking. I wonder if he was afraid he wouldn't make it 30 days.
I already knew this case, but MrBallen makes every story extra fascinating...
The fact he only got 30 days in jail for messing with a kid but 30 years for insurance fraud proves how bad the justice system is nowadays, the justice system is a complete joke
Oh stop it. He had a deferred adjudication in the sexual assault case. The case was dead, as the alleged assault occurred when he was 16 years old. Years had gone by and they were going by mostly circumstantial and hearsay evidence, so they made it deferred adjudication deal. The 30 years was for a bunch of things, including arson, desecration of a cemetery, and then the massive insurance fraud.
@@DakotaFuqua ironic that you say age is just a number while talking about pedophiles
@@DakotaFuqualet me rephrase. Ironic that you say age is just a number when talking about a 7 year old who was sexually assaulted by a 16 year old and how justice wasn't served.
@@DakotaFuqua I agree. It very much is. I'm just saying the phrase " age is just a number" is not what you should say because that's LITERALLY what pedophiles believe
You could say it’s working as intended…
I heard about this many years ago. How despicable those two were to do that type of psychological damage to their child.
I keep thinking how confused that poor kid must have been.
“Yay! Daddy is home!”
“No he’s not, and if you keep saying he is, mommy will get in trouble and have to go away for a long time.” No wonder he was acting out. He was being lied to and couldn’t comprehend what was going on.
I remember watching this on “Accident, Murder or Suicide” and there was an added detail in regards to this case. The elderly woman, whose corpse they used to fake his death, was deathly afraid of fire. In the time before her death, she strictly asked her caretakers NOT to cremate her and bury her instead.
And Clay randomly used her for this.
It’s so tragic, but luckily she’s back in her grave now.
What I don't understand is how they knew it was "him" They had a funeral and everything. did they do a DNA test to find out was it really clay?
@@Rico-Vega25 On the show, investigators said the body was so thoroughly destroyed by the fire that they couldn’t even use the body’s teeth to identify it, it was too damaged. It wasn’t until police discovered Clay was alive and admitted he dug up one of the bodies to use as a decoy that police went to the local cemetery and found one of the graves appearing freshly dug up. That was how they identified the old woman as well as the story with her last caretakers.
@@IrishPlagueDoctor No, they used DNA from a hip bone & asked his mother for a sample to compare it to. They suspected the new boyfriend was him before they arrested them. They're not stupid. These story tellers & tv shows stretch the truth to make it more suspenseful for the audience.
Finally, a truly new video. Thank you!
It feels like a perfect Sunday evening with the family listening to stories in a living room with snacks and warmth .
Except for people in Alaska where it's only noon
😌
Once the autopsy determined that the incident was intentional, you would think it would become a priority for the investigation to positively ID the body through dental or DNA considering the ID of the victim came from every investor’s primary suspect and starting point. A lot of UC man hours could have been allocated elsewhere had that happened.
Yup.. and they did do DNA and figured out it was not him. He just leaves parts out lol. Lot of parts to this story.
@@tisjesterI noticed that on many stories, he clearly prioritizes storytelling over facts.
@@mofayer No shit he prioritizes story telling lol. What part of "told in story format" do you not understand.
How they mistaken woman for a man??😂🎉
@@Subjohny the body was so destroyed they didnt measure the pelvis. it is not as shocking as your seem to believe. your belief they were "mistaken" is what is actually funny
It's is horrific about the molestation, endangering children, etc. It's appalling he would get so little time, but I'd like to mention the corpse he dug up and how her family must have felt finding out grandma had been disinterred and used in a crime while being roasted. I'm sure they were grief stricken all over again.
I KNOW, were they not even charged for that horrific part of it? And someone in another comment said that the old woman's family said she had a lifelong fear of FIRE, and even worried about being accidentally cremated instead of buried after her death. And look what happened to her ....
@@audreymuzingo933 Yes they were charged it was part of the sentence.. He leaves parts out.. like how the sexual assault had happened when Clay was 16 and 8 years ago.
@@tisjester him being 16 doesn’t justify what he did at all.
@@tisjesterwhat does being 16 have to do with assaulting a 7 year old?
Imagine getting off so easy on a horrific crime like sexual assault on a child, only getting 30 days in county jail, not even state prison, but then thinking that even that isn’t good enough, so you fake your own death just to get out of doing 30 days and it ends upgetting you 30 years
It's absolutely sick how they took that child's dad from him, gave him back, then convinced him that it wasn't his dad. I wonder how long they were planning to keep up the charade. I pray their son and the 7 year old survivor are doing well🙏🏽❤
Plus - it was really stupid that they continued to live there. Living there would only incite more suspicion.
The first clue that something was wrong here wasn’t that there weren’t any skid marks but that Clay left the house at 11pm but the car was on fire at roughly 6am. I mean, 40 miles wouldn’t take 7 hours!!
Also, irrespective of Molly’s involvement in the cover-up & insurance fraud, the fact that she stayed with a POS that admitted to sexually assaulting a child, was enough for her serving 20 years. Clay should be in jail for life.
He may have changed that detail for the story. But in reality the police where told he left at 5am or something.
I never understood why they make such a big deal out of skid marks in wrecks like this. If someone fell asleep there would be none, or if they got disoriented by the curves, turned the wrong angle and drove off a ledge
@@swaggery ah I see! That would make more sense.
Nothing better than binge watching Mr Ballen on a Sunday afternoon🤷🏽♂️
Real😂
6:51 It must've been one hell of an accident if it drew first responders all the way from the UK...
I love how I can actually visualise the stories like a movie thanks to Mr Ballen's great story telling and the photos to go with them 💖
Can't believe Molly is out already and just hope her kids are ok and not completely scarred by this 😬
How he got a light sentence for assaulting a child is beyond me smfh but then got 30 plus 20 more years for what he did after the fact is even crazier! And molly being okay with what he did to a child is even more disgusting, she really tried to help him avoid getting jail time smh. They should’ve both rotted in jail..
She actually had no affection or long lost love for him. It was the money she was interested in. She didn't even care for the child. The reason she was protecting him was that she wanted her own skin to be saved.
You can thank Epstein for that...
Ugh! Everything is already sold out!! :( But I’m happy to see how many amazing people we have supporting you in this community ❤️
Yes unfortunately I too was so very late 😢
Idk what it is about stories. I just love them. Especially the strange dark and mysterious ones.
What a twisted story! Mr.Ballen, you’re such a great storyteller, I’ve never missed an episode since I subbed, appreciate your hard work, this is definitely entertaining