Demystifying Fair Olive Makeup | What is Olive Undertone & Recommendations

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  • @jennyelledge566
    @jennyelledge566 3 місяці тому +10

    Thanks Rachel for adding your voice to the complexities of skin tones. For myself, I find that even neutral tones of foundation still looks pink on my face. I’ve been at it for a decade, so, I welcome the beauty industry to add in a fourth category. As well, I don’t think it needs to be an either, or situation. I ask the beauty industry to do a yes, and. Yes, do deeper tones well, AND serve the fair to light olive tones as well. Thanks for your thoughts!

    • @RachelEllenRose
      @RachelEllenRose  3 місяці тому +4

      Love and appreciate your take! An AND situation would be such a wonderful beauty world!!!!♥️

  • @katieeastridge2078
    @katieeastridge2078 3 місяці тому +7

    I really appreciate color analysis for creating vocabulary for people to communicate their preferences. Looking at it as right and wrong is unhelpful. Having parameters to decipher what you like or don’t like has value. Saturation vs desaturation can make someone feel uncomfortably visible vs calm and supported. I think people can choose what they want given their environment and the occasion and sense of expectation. People’s color choices can reflect their state of mind/mood/tone/intention/impact. But fashion is expensive so if someone does not have a background in art or design - seasonal analysis might be the first time they’ve ever appreciated how many colors exist and a way to evaluate their qualities. I find what is unhelpful is the dramatic sound bite “wrong colors”.

    • @RachelEllenRose
      @RachelEllenRose  3 місяці тому +4

      This is exactly in line with my train of thought! This is why in my color theory video I try to break down the principles of color theory so you can make the decision for yourself as well as train your eye to the terms and principles so you aren’t reliant on spending too much time OR money on getting answers to your questions and navigating colors. It also kills me to give such specific color answers because colors can all be adjusted to whatever outcome we’re looking for. I think a main point I’ll always continue to highlight on my channel is I’m not here to be algorithm friendly with a sound bite or give exact/line in the sand advice. I’m just here to share thoughts and learn! I love this comment and it’s thought out nature-thank you for being here!!!

  • @femmefairandfatigued
    @femmefairandfatigued 3 місяці тому +5

    Super appreciated your reminder about not falling into the trap of chasing perfection! And also your callout on thinking about who profits from the whole seasonal analysis frenzy.

    • @RachelEllenRose
      @RachelEllenRose  3 місяці тому +3

      Awe I’m so glad!! If there’s one thing I hope my channel can be it’s that!!♥️♥️ yes I love color theory but no need to spend hundreds to understand it!♥️♥️

  • @katieeastridge2078
    @katieeastridge2078 3 місяці тому +5

    A quick shoutout for Salt New York. Her initial sneaky balm release didn’t have a light enough shade but N12 was passable. But she heard feedback and came out with N13 and it’s great for fair skin, I just placed an order for the new Best Case concealer - fingers crossed it hides rosacea more quickly than sneaky balm but has the same finish. And I love their cocoa blush.

    • @RachelEllenRose
      @RachelEllenRose  3 місяці тому +4

      Yes!!! I forgot salt ny and they nail
      Colors especially having all the adjusted shades!!! Cocoa is gorgeous and salt has the BEST contour

  • @jennyelledge566
    @jennyelledge566 3 місяці тому +6

    Colors that I find works well on light olive… about face has a fair and light olive shade. Basma stick foundation in shade 35 disappears on my face. Blush: westman atelier in Mimi and Kjaer Weiss in inner glow are lovely. My go to eyeshade is Bobbi Brown melting point. I usually use some lipgloss or desaturated balms for lips.

    • @RachelEllenRose
      @RachelEllenRose  3 місяці тому +2

      Love Mimi!!! Now I need to check out BB melting point 😄

    • @jennyelledge566
      @jennyelledge566 3 місяці тому +2

      @@RachelEllenRosemelting point is not as pink as it looks on the website. It actually looks more like a lighter version of heat ray.

    • @RachelEllenRose
      @RachelEllenRose  3 місяці тому

      I’m even more intrigued bc the hourglass shade didn’t look quite right on me so maybe this can be my version of that!!

  • @ginatheblonde
    @ginatheblonde 2 місяці тому +5

    Im fair olive and from only exclusively Mediterranean decent (italian). im also blonde hair blue eyes 🇮🇹 people need to know not all Mediterranean are medium or darker...

  • @IdzieDesmarais
    @IdzieDesmarais 3 місяці тому +2

    Appreciate your thoughts! I have started referring to my skintone as fair-light olive, because finding olive forums online and creators who talk about what works for them with green in their undertones was SO helpful for me in finally finding complexion products that were a decent match for me! Though my current best match foundation is described as a neutral (Nars light reflecting in gobi), most neutrals pull peach or pink on me. While gobi is a good shade match, I am having some issues with formula (melts off my face in the summer) and packaging (the pump is leaking like crazy) so I think I'm going to try About Face's new foundation in fair olive (which from online swatch comparisons I've seen looks like the same depth as gobi, just with a bit more green), and see how that goes...
    I'm also becoming increasingly unimpressed with the whole seasonal analysis thing, not only is it a huge industry right now as you say, it's also one which seems to rely on convincing people that they're incapable of judging for themselves what they like, as if they can't be trusted to develop their own tastes, experiment, and find what works for them. You don't need experts telling you what you can and cannot wear in order to develop a personal sense of style (in fact, I think it can be detrimental).
    Anyway tldr aside, you bring up interesting topics!!

  • @aliciahammond7912
    @aliciahammond7912 Місяць тому +1

    I've been fascinated by color analysis for a decent 3 years now. Obviously, the trend blew up enough for me to even notice it, lol. I'm an artist and have always played with color in my work.
    My goal with learning about color analysis is to simply train my eye at seeing colors better and as a photography artist you can see why I'm so fascinated with color analysis since it plays on alot of light illusions.
    I also don't agree with the idea that color analysis is THE authority on our colors. I think it keeps us from exploring and expressing ourselves properly by being free to do whatever we want with color. I think color analysis is a great tool in understanding how color theory works on the human body, but it's not the final stage. It very possibly creates this stagnancy in a person's personal creative expression because of how easy perfectionism can squeeze itself into our mindsets. It goes against everything I stand for as an artist.
    Thanks for making this video. It's hard to find content that talks about the nuances. ✌️

  • @profesorahb
    @profesorahb 2 місяці тому

    I love everything about this video! Such a great conversation ♥️

    • @RachelEllenRose
      @RachelEllenRose  2 місяці тому

      Awe thank you! So glad you enjoyed it♥️♥️♥️

  • @breathwiththay
    @breathwiththay 2 місяці тому

    I love love love your content so much!!!

    • @RachelEllenRose
      @RachelEllenRose  2 місяці тому

      Awe THANK YOU this means the world to me♥️

  • @maeganmchugh
    @maeganmchugh 3 місяці тому +1

    I need to revisit the color theory video!

    • @RachelEllenRose
      @RachelEllenRose  2 місяці тому

      I miss having the energy to put into a video like that. I still dream about that rainbow slick eye 😂😂♥️

  • @barbieojeda454
    @barbieojeda454 4 дні тому

    I remember my sister trying to help me find a color match inside Sephora years ago (I was a beauty newbie), and she was stumped. I removed her saying I was this weird in between. Nothing seemed to match me well. Wondering if maybe I’m a fair olive as well. I’m becoming increasingly convinced. I’ve always stuck with a neutral because it’s always been closest. Ive only ever used Elf, Elate Beauty, Salt New York, and Tarte for my concealers. Foundation I still kind of struggle with a little. Haven’t found the one yet, but I’ve been using Elate even though it’s a little cooler on me. Still searching for the perfect nude. I purchased from Moira, so fingers crossed. Good video! Thanks for posting.

  • @brunom72
    @brunom72 3 місяці тому

    omg...those eyes 💥!!

  • @Rodismymuse82
    @Rodismymuse82 3 місяці тому +2

    I have recently started looking into fair olive . My main go to is MAC NC15/NC20. However I’ve tried different undertones, see I have Mediterranean ancestry . I have a full Spanish grandmother and a full Portuguese grandmother. My grandfathers were a mix of English, Scottish, Irish, French, and welsh.
    Long story short pink undertone foundation goes gray on me. Neutral foundation if balanced enough can work, but most of the time they pull peach or orange, and yellow foundations can work, but even the yellow is noticeable on my neck.
    I do find that shades described as a light beige neutral with golden undertones is the best I have found. However I am intrigued by olive undertones and wonder if the reasons the other three undertones pull too peach or grey tinge my skin is because I have olive skin tone .
    I talked with someone at Mac who said their NC shades have some olive base to it. She said I could wear NC15 (fair beige with golden undertone) with a bit of the powder foundation in nc20 to cancel some yellow out. She said nc 20 has more olive in it.
    Anyway I might want to try a true fair olive shade to test to see if why I’m having trouble with undertones may be because I’m actually olive.

    • @RachelEllenRose
      @RachelEllenRose  3 місяці тому

      I love this!! Yes seeing comments say neutrals pulled to pink or yellow is exactly my same experience and why I wish neutral would be TRULY neutral!! I’d love to see us be able to narrow down the definition of neutral and olive so when brands start making shades they can fit as many people as possible bc it does seem so difficult. 😥 it’s such a nuanced conversation which is why I think it’s a difficult one and why I don’t like to label myself bc I don’t want to add more mud to the water but I definitely have some green and have struggles finding good shade matches but am pretty happy with the ones I’ve been able to find thankfully-I hope you can find a good match too!

    • @TracyD2
      @TracyD2 2 місяці тому

      NC 25/30 pull peach/orange respectively on me. They say that undertone is golden beige but my green skin brings out the peach in it. It’s strange. The somewhat newer C shades might work better for some olive undertones. It’s more yellow leaning. Even though I’m not a strong yellow undertone, now that I’m older (58) it’s more flattering and brightening on me ( put a pin in that for later) I find for me Asian beauty matches very well if they have shades dark enough. Most of the time I mix in green or several foundations to get anything right. Enough about me. The new about-face foundation looks promising though. The subreddit OliveMUA and Fairolive are helpful for swatches and recommendations. Rituel De Fille has nice blush shades very different from what you see out there. Also I find contours work best as bronzers.

  • @erinsnook8537
    @erinsnook8537 Місяць тому

    Please do series videos!

  • @TracyD2
    @TracyD2 2 місяці тому +2

    The blush shades that a lot of companies put out are truly awful in my opinion and it’s always the same 5/6 colors. People pile that stuff on and well it’s just not for me. I don’t see anyone in real life like that. To each their own. Rant over. Heck yes on swatching videos.

    • @RachelEllenRose
      @RachelEllenRose  2 місяці тому +1

      I agree 1000% it’s gotten a smidge better but there’s such a long way to go. Idk why neutral colors are so hard! Swatching is coming!!♥️

  • @sarahmilano9274
    @sarahmilano9274 Місяць тому

    I see others with warmer pale skin. Never have I seen a creator and saw my skin tone before seeing you. We are a dead match unless the camera is messing with the color. I use tends fair cool products and it’s the closest match I have ever found. Korean makeup does a good job of lots of undertones in light shades

    • @sarahmilano9274
      @sarahmilano9274 Місяць тому

      Also want to mention I have medetranian and European ancestry hence my color combo

    • @sarahmilano9274
      @sarahmilano9274 Місяць тому

      Yensa beauty is what I use. I wear fair cool and it’s amazing