Moab's iconic trails threatened with CLOSURE!
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- Опубліковано 3 жов 2022
- Dewie here, short video on what's happening in Moab and we can do! Please tell the BLM that these trails are valued by off-roaders.
CORE's video:
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Patrick McKay's Maps:
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Copied from CORE's Video:
Please help us save important trails near Moab, UT.
-Watch the video
-Write a Comment (outline below)
-Send to the BLM (link below)
-Share this info
How to comment effectively.
To comment substantively on The Proposal, include these points in your own words.
Tell the BLM about yourself:
Who you are, where you’re from, what activities you enjoy in the Labyrinth Rims/Gemini Bridges planning area, and how much money you spend locally when visiting (dining, recreational equipment, hotels, fuel, etc.).
Emphasize if you are a multi-use recreationist. Include all the activities you enjoy in the area and what characteristics you look for in a route.
Examples: floating Labyrinth Canyon by raft or canoe, riding your dirt bike on Dead Cow, 4WD on Hey Joe, mountain bike on the Magnificent Seven.
The variety of benefits that the area’s motorized routes provide to you. (exercise, thrill-seeking, skill building, family time, connection with nature, etc.).
That you support the comments submitted by local, state, and national groups (RwR, CORE, TPA, etc.).
Then ask the BLM to:
Support Alternative A. In 2008 the TMP closed over 40% of inventoried routes plus around 200 miles of non-inventoried routes, thereby balancing motorized recreation with non-motorized recreation and natural resources. This is especially worth noting given the significant number of non-motorized opportunities surrounding this planning area.
Recognize that the State of Utah is increasing its support of trail work, education, and law enforcement in the planning area. The new DNR Division of Outdoor Recreation is hiring staff to do more trail work and enforcement patrols, specifically in southeast Utah. Further, Utah’s new Off-Road Vehicle Safety Education Act will require (a) all OHV operators to complete an education course, (b) all ATVs to display license plates for easier identification, and (c) vehicle operators who are convicted of going off-trail to repair their damage through community service. With these additional resources, the BLM will be able to effectively implement alternative A and resolve any issues with the status quo.
Take an educational approach to reduce recreation conflicts. Separating trail uses is appropriate to some degree, but additional closures should be thoughtfully evaluated. The BLM should promote education and trail etiquette efforts before resorting to hundreds of miles of closures, especially considering the recent surge in users who are new to backcountry trails. In addition, the promotion of tolerance among diverse recreationists will help alleviate user conflicts.
Protect wildlife by gaining full compliance with the current TMP. Wildlife enhances all recreational experiences. To effectively improve wildlife habitat, the BLM should focus on the enforcement of existing closures rather than expanding closures and adding to the burden of implementing and enforcing them.
Recognize that closing motorized trails would decrease positive impacts on the local economy and increase negative impacts on natural resources. The Proposal lacks a basis for its assertion that only 7,348 visitor days (20 people per day) would be lost annually if Alternative B were chosen. In fact, Alternative B and even some routes in Alternative C would result in either (a) far more visitor days lost, (b) far more traffic on the remaining routes, which would make them less sustainable, or (c) far more use off of designated routes which would disorganize travel patterns and increase negative impacts.
Finally, make route-specific comments on your favorite trails that are proposed to be closed. You can see all the routes over aerial imagery or topographic base maps by going to the BLM’s ePlanning site, clicking on “Maps,” and going to the section “Interactive Map.” You can see if it would be closed permanently, closed seasonally, or left open year-round in each alternative by going to the section “Static Map.” Determine the route number (e.g., D1944) to state it in your comments, and use it to look at the BLM’s route report (although it’d require downloading all 650MB of route reports).
To comment online or get more information on The Proposal:
eplanning.blm.gov/eplanning-u...
If commenting online fails, email the comments with the subject line “Labyrinth/Gemini Bridges Travel Management” to:
blm_ut_mb_comments@blm.gov - Авто та транспорт
Thanks for helping get the word out!
Trying… hope people watch CORE’s video too. It’s great!
Just watched the core video, and finally got my comment in tonight. Hope it helps. Keep up the good work!
Awesome! Thanks!
Thanks for posting this Dewie! You will reach way more people than me! To everyone who loves wheeling on these trails or enjoy this type of content: please join CORE! It’s cheap and they fight to keep our trails open!!!
I just wish the big channels who use Moab for their videos would post something…. But definitely join CORE! I’m quite happy to be a part of that organization and hope to help them with more than just money in the future.
@@coloradomallcrawlers I don’t know why they don’t. Maybe they think the video won’t “perform” as well as videos like “Do I still love my Jeep Wrangler after 5 years?” Yes, I’m calling out Trailrecon and Dirt Lifestyle and more. Come on guys. They will get hundreds of thousands of views and that should draw more comments. I just don’t know. They don’t live here and wheel in Moab 4-5 times a year or more. They make one big video trip and then call it good so they’re not as invested
@@Colorado4x4 I posted it on my Facebook as I’m friends with quite a few bigger off-road UA-camrs. We’ll see, but it’s my best initial performer (even over Sean’s Trailhawk). I didn’t put ads on it either so maybe that’s helping it. I just hope people see it and realize what’s going on if they are unaware.
@@coloradomallcrawlers 🤘
@@coloradomallcrawlers I have literally been saying the same thing. I Dm’d Trail recon and Dirt Lifestyle to see if they’re gonna post anything about this, the man literally has Moab trails tattooed on his arm, if he doesn’t say anything that’s kinda hilarious
Sharing now thanks!
Thanks buddy!
Here’s an 10-12-22 update on comments from CORE. ua-cam.com/video/bkL8ipLFqoc/v-deo.html
The deadline has been extended to October 21st, 2022. eplanning.blm.gov/eplanning-ui/project/2001224/51
I agree and commented like you did Dewie, a couple of years ago we went as a family in a stock JKU and did some of the lighter trails. I would not have been able to hike very long with a 3year old at the time. We had the time of our life and wouldn’t have been possible if we had to do them on foot.
Yeah, absolutely! Thank you for commenting… hopefully this area gets saved!
I sat in on the Zoom meeting they had about a week ago. CORE is absolutely right....the same with the 2nd Amendment...they will never stop at taking things away. I really hope you comment on all the "influencers" in YT and IG as well. I tried my best to let everyone know. This is extremely important!
Absolutely, I wish the bigger channels would help spread the word, but when I saw how little traction my shares on this were getting… I decided to make a video. If I ever do this video making thing full time, I’ll get more involved.
@@coloradomallcrawlers I just jumped on everyone else's channels and spread the word as much as I could. I was surprised at how little a lot of those channels either A. knew about this and/or B. didn't care (as evident by no reply or no comments encouraging their followers to participate in keep the public land OPEN) These gov't agencies are in the pocket of these so called environmental groups big time especially in this BS admin.
@@NigelNaughton amen Nigel! I don’t think most influencers care as much as regular people who enjoy these trails
I’ve made my comment to them! It bothers me to no end. Environmentalists just want to fence off all the land and keep anyone from enjoying the land in a way they don’t like
Yeah, I care about the environment, but I think this goes deeper than we all realize. We’ll see, but I trust CORE to get to the bottom of it. Thanks for commenting to the BLM!
@@coloradomallcrawlers absolutely. I think most off-roaders care about the environment a lot. I always leave it better than I found it. It’s not enough for these people though. Hopefully we don’t lose our public lands to this crap. No offense, but I also wish bigger UA-camrs were talking about this to get the word out even more!
It's the sxs's that are really grating on everyone's nerves. They tear the hell out of everything, go off trail more than other rigs, and are super loud with exhausts and speaker systems. They're gonna ruin it for everyone.
This isn’t about trail abuse. This area doesn’t really have any and the BLM has agreed with that assessment from what I’ve seen. That’s what’s concerning here.
At the end of the day, nothing a pair a bolt cutters can’t fix. It’s public land. Charge me with trespassing on public land, pleaaaase.
Yop this our land and it belongs to us the American people. They want to restrict 90% of americas land and cram us into “smart city’s” to control us easier to control us and comply to THE WILDLANDS PROJECT AND THE BIODIVERSITY TREATY (AGENDA 21/2030) fuck them and the white horse they rode in on
Why are trails being closed? I watched the CORE video but it was mostly a lot of talking about what to do, or what’s been done, but not so much about what’s happening or why.
He has gone into it on his Facebook posts, but it seems to be a small group of individuals with lots of money trying to prevent others from recreating in ways they don’t like.
That's the story of the whole world now
I mean, National Park status is the highest level of protection, but we can still run trails inside National Parks around Moab like Tower Arch, Elephant Hill, Shafer Road, White Rim, and many others. Most of those trails don’t even require signing up, I think only Elephant Hill has a daily limit. So… if a National park allows off-roading that tells me the impact isn’t so bad that they need to close the trails. Remember even hiking off the trail is strictly forbidden in a National park; if they disallow that but allow 4x4, what does that tell you?
These trails don’t have trail abuse issues. I wheel them often when I’m in Moab and never see trail abuse here. From what I understand, this situation does not have anything to do trail abuse.
I've NEVER Been to Moab , But THIS FUCKING SUCKS for ALLL us off roaders ... It's such BULLSHIT.. THANK YOU FOR THIS !!!!
I hope you get to experience these trails one day!
@@coloradomallcrawlers I Am DEFINITELY hoping that i will be able to !!!! 🙏🙏🤞🤞 THANKS AGAIN !!!
HEY BUDDY !!!
Any update on Blanca ???
CANNOT WAIT to see this !!!!!
Just working a lot and filming more before the snow. I’ll get it done when I get some free time to work on it. May have easier edits published before it, but it should be worth the wait. Blanca just has so much footage to go through.
@@coloradomallcrawlers LOOKING FORWARD TO IT !!!🤘😄🤘
I agree that we need to find a way to save as many trails as we can. But I also agree that the surge in 4x4 enthusiasts has caused some significant damage to previously preserved wilderness. If we want to keep trails open, then we need an off-roading culture of respect for the trail. Any of us that regularly enjoy off-roading have this. But not any of us with a capable vehicle. And the availability of capable vehicles is growing. So if off-roaders can’t preserve the trails, should they remain open? If you can’t take care of nice things, you can’t have nice things.
That is a simple a problem. It’s easy to teach people to respect the wilderness, but it’s not easy to regain lost trails and I’ll use the Gulches and Twin Cone as examples. This isn’t about environmental damage as I never see any in this area, this is about people using their power to prevent others from doing things they don’t like. Also, you if you take away trails, then that causes the trails left to get more use. This area is currently well balanced.
@@coloradomallcrawlers excellent points. Especially the balance issue. I agree. Though how do we get the message out to all the stock car owners that take their new wrangler, or tacoma, or bronco, etc out for the first time and just sort of do what they like? It’s almost like manufacturers need to get into the mix and be sure they are promoting a culture of responsibility out on the trail.
Well, I’ll do it and right now we try to do it through example now. However, being a new Jeep owner every few years, I know Jeep does it when you buy a new one. They have been a tread lightly partner since at least the TJ years. That’s how I learned of them. Recently, I saw many manufacturers are tread lightly partners. The point is, this area isn’t under fire due to environmental issues and to assume that distracts from what’s actually going on behind the surface. That is a small group with power is trying to take away an opportunity from a group they don’t like. Id subscribe to CORE’s channel, as I’m sure Marcus will go into this more like he has for the gulches. Right now tho, we just need help and comments.
@@coloradomallcrawlers you’re content is always awesome for reasonable, responsible wheeling. I’m very grateful for your channel. From the stuff I’ve seen after looking it up the main complaints are for noise “pollution”.. which is nonsense considering the motorbikes would make just as much noise, if not more. I love the level response. Thanks for the clarification. I’m on the east coast, so I don’t have much dog in this fight. Over hear there are definite issues with needless trail damage. If you happen to know of a program similar to Austrailia’s “two bags in, two bags out” let me know. Meanwhile I’ll do what I can here, because eventually I want to make it to Moab and I’d like to enjoy it when I get there.
Got it. Email has been sent and good luck to you, us, them.
Hopefully we don’t lose too many!
I honestly don’t get why they would try to take all of these trails away. I really hope we are able to convince the BLM to let us still use those trails
Because people who are clueless about the area think our activity is bad and try to prevent it wherever they can. It’s a shame.
This part of a worldwide agenda going on right now
Fuck the blm and there edicts
Liberty ?
Yeah, I’m slowly modifying a Jeep Liberty as money becomes available. It was my mom’s.
Green new deal.
See Marcus’s video… it’s quite eye opening!
What’s the reason for the blm taking the trails away?
Marcus breaks it down here. ua-cam.com/video/L5OcY91fq1I/v-deo.html
“It’s your land…until its not” -BLM
Why do they want to shut them down,?
See CORE’s video, but it’s mostly about small groups that don’t like us wanting to limit our access to public lands. There’s no trail abuse issues in the area… I’ve wheeled it often.
The trails should only be used if your on a side-by-side or a bike or an ATV. People keep taking jeeps and Broncos out on these trails, They break down and spill oil and fluid all over a beautiful natural landmark. It's not hard to understand. I'm glad they will take the trails from you.
So you are ok with the limitation of one kind of vehicle while yours is ok? I’m a fan of all kinds of users (bikes, atvs, side by sides, Jeeps, full-size), but let’s be real here… some side by side users are giving y’all all a bad name. In CO we have lots of off trail use and excessive speed on trails (CO trails usually have a 15-20mph speed limit). I’m not for limiting y’all, but when I see comments like this… it makes me less enthusiastic on defending y’all like I’m always doing.
You're totally right. I have never seen a side by side not making a mess, not littering, no drinking and driving, not going off trail, not destroying public land. It's all our fight. Thinking that one specific group in the greater off-road community is responsible for closures is how they keep those who want to limit our access to public land taking piece after piece. I would encourage widening your perspective on this and join the fight against the closures.