The Powerful Wisdom of the Christian Mystics | Christian Mysticism Read by Rupert Spira
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- Опубліковано 23 кві 2022
- Enjoy a reading from Rupert on the powerful wisdom of the Christian Mystics.
Rupert explains that after 40 years of studying Eastern traditions, he finds himself falling back into the Christian roots in which he grew up. He describes Christian Mysticism in particular to be perhaps the most powerful expression of the non-dual understanding for him.
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""The very best and noblest attainment in this life is to be silent and let God work and speak within."
~Meister Eckhart
I thought there was just one being, that of God?
@@MBS-oo2yv "One" and "more than one" are concepts.
If we take the concept of one being as true, how can we resolve its contradiction to Meister Eckhart's quote, which implies the existence of more than one being?
@@MBS-oo2yv yes, Renatus, when you said cogito ergo sum you only found the truth of the personal thinking brain called ego/mind, not the much larger function of the brain called task positive network. There God and creation are realised as one. So, redo your homework and reconsider your mistake. Then you will find the dissolving of all seeming contradictions that you are so troubled about now. Mind you, you will never understand this with the small ego mind, for this is unknowable. But the clear brain, the Unborn mind can know this intuitively. This is what all the great mystics talk about and what some of them even realized.
@@MBS-oo2yv Meister Eckhart was trying to describe an experience you can have for yourself, not presenting an idea to be wrestled with.
Yeshua, the ultimate Mystic 💛🙏 like he said, we cannot be without God, for God is all there Is “I and the Father are One “ was not a statement of specialness, but a recognition of the only thing there is, God, and we are It, a spark in the imagination of the One infinite Source 💞
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We are one with God when we are clean. When we acknowledge our sins and repent. True deep repentance is needed before you can come to God and ask him to Join you. He cannot dwell in unclean Vessel. Except Jesus Christ as your Lord and Savior. Repent and be baptized. Then you can do everything else. Remember you are made in his image but you are nit his equal. You are not a Demi God. You are a human made by him.
@@severelychanged3679 we see things differently, and that’s ok, because it’s all blessed. 🙇♀️
Wow!!!
In this talk Rupert is reading first from the book: Meister Eckhart, Selected Writings, translated by Oliver Davies. After that, from 17:28, he reads from Brother Lawrence, The Practice of the presence of God In Modern English, translated by Marshall Davis. I mention these sources for the convenience of the listeners, and also to pay due respect to the translators. A translation can make or break a text, and both these translations are very sincere.
Thank you for sharing where one can find what was shared.
Thank you Rupert. Such a beautiful teaching from the heart. Having gone to a Catholic boarding school in Ireland in the early 60s early 70s a time when the church in Ireland operated as a cult with complete power over the people and no accountability. I of course rejected the church as there was very little taught about the real Jesus and Christianity but managed to maintain great respect and reverence for some of the early Christian Mystics and thanks to you my knowledge and faith in them has greatly increased. Thank you for giving me the window to revisit not only these teachings but also those of the Sufi and Buddhist schools. Your teachings are profound and touch me deeply as I experience they coming directly from your heart and soul. Thank you and may God/ consciousness keep you safe calm and happy.
I'm a Muslim and I pray that Allah protects true (christianity mystical christianity) and make it's teaching witness to all nations
The Church is all about Jesus, but it wasn't what you wanted to hear.
Most people in the 60s were rebelling against God and pursuing drugs and sexual debauchery so naturally everyone who stands in the way of this false freedom is "evil and cultish" and oppressive.
But rebellion never leads to God. Best of luck!
@@HIMYMTR It had nothing to do with the rebellion in the 60’s but everything to to do with the Catholic church behaving as a “dictator “ and Cult in Ireland .
The 'smart' discourses of philosophers or spiritual teachers are very attractive and satisfy our intellect, but as bright as they can be, they never replace a direct experience of our true self. Call it god or else does not impact on the true unmistakable feeling of being face to face with oneself. Christian mystics are great in this direct path and most often overlooked with Eastern traditions without diminishing their greatness and unique analysis. Mystics of East and West unites in the fruit of the spiritual journey: love, peace and wisdom. Thank you Rupert for this breeze of freshness and pure joy.
My goodness. I’m going thru this too! As of this weekend. What a lovely coincidence. Love a Christian mystic; any mystic
You don't need an excuse for going into early Christian mysticism Rupert, it is one of the great sources of the teaching of Oneness. You are looking particularly happy in this video. Coming home? We have found the exact same book you are quoting from today, it is a great source on nonduality, not less than any of the Eastern teachings.
Thank you Rupert for all the work you do. You’ve truly been a blessing along my journey. 🙏
From Catholic roots to Buddhism, Hinduism, Ramana Masharshi to Mooji and you now back to Christianity. What a journey these 40 years have been for me. To find this message this day is directly from God. Thank you for sharing Rupert.
Abba, Jesus and Holy Spirit bliss you my dear brother. Agape hugs!
Beautiful and also very encouraging indeed. More and more i find myself going back to the silence and nature. It feels more wholesome and my beloved animals
Thomas Merton, as a young man, became acquainted with the Hindu monk Brahmachari. Merton showed interest, and he was surprised when the monk encouraged him to connect, not with Hinduism, but with his own Christian tradition. Personally, I investigated various paths, although never the Eastern religions, until I embraced my Catholic roots. Looking back, I believe reading Merton's "7 Story Mountain" and C.S. Lewis' "Surprised by Joy" provided the spark. It still took years to get back after reading those books.
Thank you Rupert. We are ONE.
Always good to see you Rupert. Love it when you are in an outdoor setting. Much love
So wonderful! After a lifetime of Christianity then exploring nondual spirituality, it felt lacking. I missed the relational warmth of my catholic/evangelical roots. Incarnational spirituality feels to resonate, of course Meister Eckhart is the shining example, but contemporary teachers such as Richard Rohr, Cynthia Bourgeault, James Finely and also the late Fr. Thomas Keating have been beautiful teachers.
Hey 👋
Of those CM you listed.
Which one would you recommend most?
Regards
@@devarmont87 Well, I guess it depends on your style. As mystics, I would generalize Cynthia as quite dense/intellectual, Jim a clinical psychologist as feeling oriented, Richard a priest as pastoral. Cynthia's newest book seems interesting, "The Corner of Fourth and Nondual."
@@caminocielo751 well, I guess I love the feel/sound of Alan Watts and his humour.
I like neville Goddard but find him course in his teaching.
I am fairly new to non-duelism so, maybe not jumping in the deep end as Cynthia from you sounds a little advanced, however I'm not new to spiritual seeking.
Check out Marshall Davis christian nonduality. You might like his style and message.
@@devarmont87 If you like Alan Watts, Cynthia is brilliant but also whimsical. She's delightful and deep.
Depression is not an evil to be destroyed but a precious gift from god
Rupert is like ASMR for the soul.
Lol
Beautifully spilling waves of grace with every spoken word
Loved towards the end of Ruperts talk how the breeze gently rustled the foliage behind him! As if waving in appreciation and gratitude for such beautiful words!!! 👉🙏
Of the Imitation of Christ by Thomas a Kempis and Dark Night of the Soul by St John of the Cross are two of my favorites. The writings of Teresa of Avila are also very powerful.
Thank you Rupert for this lovely teaching and opportunity listening to your reading, I enjoyed it and blessing you.
Grateful to receive your teachings Rupert.
How amazing, my path echos that of Rupert's.
Rupert, thank you for sharing these inspiring readings.
Thank you for sharing this. I have noticed in the last few years a shift from personal love and interests to the impersonal.The love for all is so much more intense. I'm so much better at seeing God through each face as I don't see many people. I cant always let go enough but more often.It was after a major surgery that has left me mostly in bed and alone but with great gifts. Instead of years of mantras, which were so helpful, now I feel an expanded falling in. I don't have a desire to be with God but fall into him. This way of living is a gift as I can be quiet and god can be alone with me. Rumi. Love Christ and so many. Its all just blending into just love.
Thank you Rupert, you're a constant inspiration.
FInally, thank you Rupert, getting around to feeling comfortable saying the "G" word. Learned to do the same thing listening to Mariam Williamson and Caroline Myss. Love all your teachings and meditations. Been listening to you almost every night for the last decade.😇
Marianne Williamson
@Cindy Scott thank you, yes, Marianne 💜
Many thanks for this. Needless to say, that this is exactly what I needed to hear today.
How beautiful, thank you Rupert, Amen
Profound and very fine teaching, teaching of emptying one's mind to be bare and pure in meeting God, untainted, free and divested of personal and earthly memories. Straight way to become one with the One. Final stage on the path of devotion.
Meister Eckhart is one of my favorite Christian mystics.
I love this readings!!
Separate me = separate from God. United me = United with God.
And there even God and me dissolve.
Thank you, beautiful, so very helpful thank you 😊🙏
Commune with your heart upon thy bed, is a good bible saying
God Bless you Rupert.
At the age of 21, 4 years after I entered a contemplative monastery, I found myself entering into infused contemplation after direct experience of God. Recently, discovering Ramana Maharishi led me to a deeper level of mysticism. Hence it is so interesting coming across your channel. I stay with my roots, Catholic mysticism largely according to St, John of the Cross. Now I am recalling his nadas, drawn back to his teachings on Dark Contemplation.
Thank you for all these inspirational and interesting videos about this (important!) and also some kind of recognisable subject! Greetings from Sweden and keep up the good work!
Thank you, sir 🙏
Beautiful, bathing in God's presence
Nicely done! I also found that I had to strip away much of the teachings of the church. When I experienced my spiritual awakening then I was able to come back to the word and I had new eyes to see what I had never seen before in it.
I'm enjoying my journey with Jesus thorugh "A Course in Miracles" with great intensity. And I'm enjoying it because it works. Forgiveness saved my mind and released my heart.
Thank you very very much for your reading very great and Pure Love👍🙏🏻😀🌺
Your voice is like flowing water🌊
I want Western people to search out the Fathers of the church, they are absolutely brilliant.
Eastern orthodox christianity is amazing and filled with practices that works to live in Christ, to realize God etc.
You have some awesome fathers here :
St. Gregory Palamas
St. Gregory of Nyssa.
Pseudo dionysius the areopagite
Dumitru Staniloae
Elder paisios
Thank you for your recommendations! Much appreciated.
And don’t forget The Philokalia ☦️
Thank you.
Thank you, thank you, thank you. feeling blessed. ❤
Merci infiniment pour ce partage.
Thank you. 💙🙏💙
Wow, wonderful quotes from Meister Eckart.
The Christian Mystics seemed to find their way in a far less systematized practice. They followed a Christian Tradition which was far more invisible than the eastern guru system. Of course, they are one in the same, ultimately. But, those Christian mystics seemed to express themselves in a way that was so awesome and filled with wonderment because their path was not so clearly delineated in most cases. For most of us, we do not see the path of Christianity as clear cut as certain yogic systems. However, some Christian Mystics were able to find the thread of science in it, such as Mary Baker Eddy, and others of that revival era.
@JollyRoger-ml5ps That is all a lot to digest, but I do love and appreciate your message.
Guruji!🙏❤️
God bless everyone.😊
Loved these beautiful writings
of Meister Eckhart 💗🙏 💗
Thankyou so much for sharing 💗
Thankyou for sharing this great wisdom 🙏
Thank you so much🌹
“KENOSIS” is the 'self-emptying' of Jesus' own will and becoming entirely receptive to God's divine will. The word ἐκένωσεν is used in Philippians 2:7: "[Jesus] made himself nothing", or "[he] emptied himself", using the verb form κενόω, meaning "to empty".
St John the Forerunner, before he too became one, in the “Holy Fire” of God. “He must increase, but I must decrease.”
I am thoroughly enjoying you your videos. I remember clearly, 57 seven years ago having an incredible experience reading "The Cloud of Unknowing" written by a 14th century abbot. I would love to come to one of your weekends, however its not very likely as I'm stuck here in Australia. Anyway, thank you.
Read “ On Union with God “ St Albert the Great. “ The Imitation of Christ “ St Thomas a Kempis. One and the same Spirit as the ” Cloud of Unknowing “ 🕊
@@AlgernonGeorgie Thank you for this... 🤗
so many thoughts, feelings, fears, emotions, stresses
arise for me, as I watch this video.
here's just a few of the things
I get flooded with:
- emotional pain.
- unbearable grief.
- homicidal rage.
- suicidal depression.
- there's a person I sort of/kind of
have a crush on, and the whole situation
is beyond fucked and completely toxic,
and I don't know how to get out...
and if I DO get out,
I have nothing.
- I am a failure in every aspect of my life.
- I'm old now, the future is hopeless...
- I recall the past and it fills me with rage.
- I live in poverty.
- fat/diabetic.
- how the fuck am I going to change my life around?
- perpetually single, without friends (my whole life).
- C-PTSD/INFJ/HSP
- people I love, got that horrific c-19 jab and I am terrified for them.
- panic panic panic...
You are how old? You are not hopeless. I promise.
start a practice of meditation.
Go read/study books before the year 1900 about philosophy/god/bible/history
That was beautiful. Thank you…
Thankyou
So beautiful Rupert I love Meister Eckhart
And we say : Amen❤
Beautiful readings. Thank you, Rupert. 🙏
My Good God🙏🙏🙏 this has been my revelation too. Thank you for posting this Rupert🙏
This morning out of prayer it was quite clear to me I had to try much harder to get well or I probably wouldn't. The only reason
I mention it is both a qi gong practice and his reading of Meister Eckhart made me so incredibly sad I am weeping. What they
say and intend as ends is a misdirection I suspect. The Messiah brought a sword; he identified as sounds. Silence and peace
--be careful.
Thank you so much for your reading I like it 🙏🏻🙏🏻👍😀❤️
I agree with you that the study and readings of mysticism is superlative. For me nothing compares to it regarding the transcendent. Meister Eckhart teaching is unparalleled. I just finished reading a book called the way of paradox, spiritual Life as taught by Meister Eckhart by Cyprian Smith who has consummated this truth of Eckhart with the utmost simplicity, wisdom and understanding. 💯💫
Hi Rupert,
The story of Marguerite Porete and her book "The Mirror of Simple Souls" is a wonderful example of Christian Mysticism :)
Great subject. I hope he doesn't forget Angelus Silesius, he really was liberated fully and wrote about it so sweet.
Divine
Thank you, thank you. So beautiful.
Rupert I would love to see you and John butler in conversation
I would love to see them in contemplation.
@@paulmetdebbie447 So you can look at people being silent? Even more stupid than hankering over their words.
Thank you Rupert!! ❤️🙏
Open heart,open mind..father thomas keating...centering prayer.would love a review by rupert.
You are telling my story🎉
Great video! I´d like to know more about mysticism in african and american societies.
❤beautiful ❤❤❤
Meister Eckhart is a powerful non-dual mystic from the Christian tradition
I prey that Yahweh protects true christianity (mystical christianity) and make the world see majestic beauty
Respect from a Muslim
Isn't that something?-I also came back..not that I ever left..but I never entered as deeply as I have now, after studying everything else under the sun. It's as if being introduced to Christianity as a child, and then never fulfilled it's purpose and it so patiently waited in me until I would realize JUST HOW MUCH IT IS OF MY INNER BEING and "identity" as an incarnate dualistic being in this life- it's "home", it's FAMILY, it's "my tribe" to use different analogies. Sad when I think how much time I, in considerable part, wasted. I'm not taking away ANY of the beauty and power that the other traditions do indeed have, that I thoroughly loved and enjoyed /benefited from. In fact, I still keep many of those things, because they are common to general goodness and objective experience. Now though, I feel like I'm trying to make up for lost time, and hoping that I have enough time to fulfill the "PEARL OF GREAT PRICE", JESUS being the "ROOT GURU", as equal to the Totality that is God, for me.
I was listening to this on my way home with my 3 year old Nina. When we got home she said "Daddy can I watch something?"
Being cheeky I said sure and pressed play on this video and handed my phone to her. She had a look of utter bewilderment fall across her face and she exclaimed "No not this!"
I replied with a smile "I thought you liked Rupert?"
Nina said "No you're supposed to drink roober." (rootbeer) 😆.
I’m a christian and I don’t think that christianity and non-duality oppose, it just complements.
Then you don't know what kind of crap nonduality is and being packaged as.
@@cosmofox Why?
@@sevensevenseven__ No loving God. No eternal soul. No afterlife. Sorry but you're only looking at the surface "oneness." The model of reality is totally different.
Can't wait to watch this
I listen to a good deal of what might be called "aggresive" music, e.g. progressive metal, djent, etc., but I've discovered that I've fallen in love with Silence (capital "S" ;>} ) as I've deepened my meditation practice.
🙏🙏
Thank you so much 🙏🙏🙏♥♥♥
Yes! Exactly Rupert 💯
🙏🌿🌾💕lovely, wonderous and so good
I, too, love Eckhart, his sermons and lectures. Indeed, there can few who would watch this video who do not do so. It is with that in mind that I have a question for anyone who would like to contribute - it largely concerns the way that Christians tend usually use the non-duality.
In most accounts that I come across within a Christian context, the term 'non-duality' is usually used to denote the state of 'Oneness with God'. In other words, to recognise that in the world of appearances there is individuality whereas in the state of union those appearances are seen as simple illusions - that all appearances are merely aspects of the One.
However, Eckhart goes further. He talks about the Godhead. Indeed, he tells us that the Godhead is a far above God, as God is above the Earth. Clearly this is only metaphorical language, but he does explain that the Godhead is the source of God. God, to Eckhart, is not a state of non-duality - as most Christians seem to argue. It is the Godhead that is the state of true non-duality. He describes at length how that in order to remain a separate 'creature', the soul does not merge into the Godhead but remains separated by 'a little point'. Hence, by not merging, they retain some type of dualistic existence within the concept of the Union with God.
So, two questions arise. Firstly, is Eckhart really saying that Union with God is not the same as merging with the non-dual state? Secondly, Why is the term, 'Godhead' used so frequently by Eckhart but so rarely in other Christian mystical teaching? Is it because his awakening is that much deeper?
Any thoughts from anyone would be appreciated, providing they respect the essence of what is being asked.
Rupert Spira serving the pub
“ Love is that liquor sweet and most divine,
Which my God feels as blood; but I, as wine.”
― George Herbert
For many great and clear nondual Christianity we can highly recommend Marshall Davis on his yt channel Christian nonduality. And his many books. The perfect cross between Daoism and Christianity.
Wow, just had a listen to him.
I like his message and understanding.
I am very please to find you and hear Your beautiful lecture about stillness allso about Romy ❤
thank you brother for the montra I am gone do it but I am preying and meditating for several years and also seeing my reinbow light and my chakra but I prey for you ❤bless your heart
Yes 😊 Meister Eckhart 😊
Anthony de Mello, stands next to other important pioneers connecting East and West wisdom traditions.
I'm a Christian mystic NOT by choice! I learned over the years to appreciate my station and am grateful today for it.. but really never wanted to be on this position, My first blown vision left me extremely joyous and extremely sad,before I could grasp the things of physics, spiritual realms ECT. I felt left here, left behind, I wanted to go with God when he left, be where he was going In my human experience in this realm, my mind before the truth manifested itself ,could only conceive the physical, the presence of Glory appeared, terrifying me, at first, until the Glory filled my soul, my cup overflowed, I was filled with The sweetest savor of love, bliss, enthusiasm, Joy, happiness, knowledge,awe and wonder, and just like that the Glory disappeared from the physical realm There's no normal from that point moving forward, from that moment on I was half in this world and half in the spiritual realm, people don't realize an experience with God in this realm changes a person, Mind, body, soul, one month nute I was a human next minute I was a human with some crazy knowledge and understanding which wasn't only unexplained to those around me but Incomprehensible, yet the most epic event ever but you can't share it with just anyone, I tried, believe me, all i wanted to be normal and fit in, be a part of this event called life but instead I'm set apart, alone, lonely, waiting everyday to go home.. home sick like a three year old..waiting for my dad to pull into Earth's driveway with my favorite blanket in hand..I don't think like other mystics, I know God loves me in this station just the way I am, My purpose here isn't to be closer to him by emptying myself so he is the only experience I have here, That mindset is impossible, There is nothing but him, all things I experience are through him, so his presence is everywhere,yet nowhere, I'm here to endure the physical aspect of nowhere and master that experience become stronger and wade through the hell it is to sometimes think I'm separated from him, I realize it's only 80 years but when God personally visits you and showers you with it's love, bliss, light and joy, one finds themselves in a similar mindset as that of a crack head, overwhelming love , the drug, ones system is in need of the much desired effects of the hit of love to the system, finds themselves doing things in servitude to get another fix, it's the closest way to feel it again, here on earth, serving others, the appreciation and love you receive back another way to feel it from the atmosphere is laughter and dancing and singing and praising, all these things put u closer to the feeling of God's love.. just saying .Yeshua did it all already, we won already, All God wants us to do now is live in that victory, share that victory, speak out powerful things from truth in victory, Our Father is the MOST powerful entity which is the true existence all else is death and lies..and you my friends are heirs to that throne, of a royal bloodline, adopted into the best family ever! Now go out and spread the good news and gather our sisters and brothers together again in love and humility.
It's the souls journey to master ourselves in the illusion and lies that he's not present.
Ive experienced God and it can be confusing for the mind because what happens to me is that I realize that there is no ego separate and apart from God and that I am identical to God in everyway as I am like the whole world and yet I am not in control of anything and there is no self in any of it. All there is is being, I AM. Its so strange and if you try to share it you just simply can't because no matter how you try to explain it as I am now it never comes out completely accurate. It is God being born within the heart and there is no other.
Then said Jesus to those Jews which believed on him, If ye continue in my word, then are ye my disciples indeed; and ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.......Jesus answered them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Whosoever committeth sin is the servant of sin. And the servant abideth not in the house for ever: but the Son abideth ever. If the Son therefore shall make you free, ye shall be free indeed.
John 8:31-32, 34-36 KJV
At that day ye shall know that I am in my Father, and ye in me, and I in you. He that hath my commandments, and keepeth them, he it is that loveth me: and he that loveth me shall be loved of my Father, and I will love him, and will manifest myself to him.
John 14:20-21 KJV
I am the LORD, and there is none else, there is no God beside me: I girded thee, though thou hast not known me: that they may know from the rising of the sun, and from the west, that there is none beside me. I am the LORD, and there is none else. I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things.
Isaiah 45:5-7 KJV
All is God....All is Brahman
We are made in the image and likeness of God. The Atman is Brahman. The soul is identical with God. There is no distinction between our Self and God and the whole of existence including every other person on earth. We are all truly within one another. We are One.
🙏❤❤❤❤
@JollyRoger-ml5ps
Is what you wrote for everyone?.. It's interesting that it came out as an answer specifically for me... about my response from a year ago.....
Interesting....🌺
Good days 🌺
I am speechless
That's the way to go🙏
❤
Hi Rupert, do you recommend a particular publication of Meister Eckhart? Thank you ☺️
Evelyn Underhill is a fantastic mystic author.