An Elaboration on the Idea of God
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- Опубліковано 3 лип 2021
- A man says that he has spent his whole life giving up attachments in order to please God, whom he associates with punishment and reward. Now that his understanding is changing, he is confused. Rupert speaks about God and our being as a single being.
This clip has been taken from one of Rupert's webinars in February 2021.
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This changed the way I look at the word "everyone". Every ONE
The word god is a huge barrier for many because it is typically believed to be a separate entity, an all-powerful being, an object outside of us. And it’s so ingrained.
Totally agree. I understand exactly what Rupert means and I understand how he shares his knowing of infinite consciousness (being) , of happiness...that there is only one being...I get that...but the use of God, that so many people think of as a being floating around in the clouds with emotions and thoughts...I understand the confusion.
"If I worship Thee in fear of Hell, burn me in Hell; and if I worship Thee in hope of Paradise, exclude me from Paradise; but if I worship Thee for Thine own sake, withhold not Thine everlasting beauty."
Rabia al-Adawiyya
Very good exposition of classical theism, which was lost in the west with the Protestants who shifted God from Being to "a" being. The word God needs to be brought to its proper place again, denoting Being and the holy source of life itself. Faith should be natural not theoretical. Have faith in life and you will have faith in God.
I love the word God.
Rupert is amazing and I'm sad for the knockers of his teaching, not being able to comprehend this experiential understanding.It took me many years,stay the path 🙏
The Dao De Jing says, if they don't scoff at it, it's not the Dao.
@@mikeq5807 WOW!!!
Rupert is so on point !
Brilliant 🙏🏻♥️ imagine if all truly KNEW God within . Ultimate freedom !
Quite fascinating as always. Thank you for your insights Rupert
I love this undertone when you say: "yeah, are you with me?".
"yeah"
@@addahandle-k8d thank you
Sometimes a feel Rupert is from another world, it is to much deep knowledge for one man to hold. There is no teacher like him.
I can name many teachers who have said the same thing. They are all beautiful.
Wow... In the end.... Example of Rose or a Cow or a Rock telling about who they are... Finally helped me to grasp the message.... Wonderful that was !!! 💖✨✨✨🤗🌼
10:05 => The bacterium Borrelia, which is a spirochete bacterium that causes Lyme disease (a torturous and long-lasting disease that destroys the social, mental and material life of the infected person bitten by a tick), before being qualified as a destructive bacterium, it is in its essence "I Am "= an "isness" which is God's being, and this manifestation of God in a finite form of microscopic and toxic spirochete bacteria is cleverly programmed to attack and relentlessly destroy another finite form of the same "I am", but manifested as a conscious, intelligent, spiritual, rational, sentimental man, which is the culminating work on earth of the same Conscious Being "I Am".
These aberrant "philosophical" speculations are the result of blindly following religious doctrines. The reality is that no one knows who and what God is. To say that He is Being, Consciousness, and we are one with Him would mean that we know from birth, as a pre-programmed instinct, who we are, who is God, what mitochondria or DNA is and how it works, and so on. But the Hindu religion, like other religions, has found "excuses": God sleeps through us and dreams until he / we wake up and become aware and enlightened. Let us then ask the great and enlightened gurus who have attained Cosmic Consciousness how many planets the solar system has or how a covid vaccine is made through genetic engineering which is in fact God's engineering.
Please don't get me wrong. I sincerely appreciate awakened people like Mr. Rupert Spira and others, but I agree with them to the point where a "prostitution" of reason begins to appear just to agree with a religious-spiritual-philosophical doctrine that anesthetizes the reason.
God is Sat Chit Ananda Any of these things is not something that God have. They are what God is. And we are God!! Thank You Rupert
@@ReverendDr.Thomas yes sat chid anand is the all there is. why then concept of heaven and hells and 14 lokas (worlds) have been created and written in hindu scriptures. what makes everyone fearful is the treatment of jeeva after the death of physical body. crossing vaitarni river is itself an ordeal... ! does nay kind of identification remains in subtle body after the death of physical body and remembrance of previous forms and lives? some say yes and some say no.. its all very confusing. if you can share something what happens between death of a physical body and birth of a new one, it will be nice.
“God said to Moses, “I am who I am. This is what you are to say to the Israelites: ‘I am has sent me to you.’ ””
Exodus 3:14
This is the best exposition on how to assimilate Christianity and non-dualism that I’ve ever heard. 😊🙏❤️
I'm so in love with Rupert 😍❤️😘 I even have my own special little petname or nickname for him and say it out loud with great affection and joy each and every time I see that he has uploaded another video fist pump the air and do a happy little dance 🙏
Love hearing Rupert speaking words
of simple yet profound truth in the pure beautiful way that only he can 💗🙏💗
Thankyou Rupert you are such a blessing
Thank you for sharing such depth and insight. You have such a unique ability to explain complex ideas.
Thank you for such a clear & beautiful explanation 🙏🏻
"God is not a deity at an infinite distance from yourself that is looking down on you, judging your behavior. I'm tempted to say it's childish but that would be disrespectful to children; children are much more intelligent than that." 🤣🤣🤣
Shots fired.. it’s true though.
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With such clarity and simplicity 'am" and 'isness' are equated...that difference and sameness between individual and universal
become grasped.Wonderful power of words released inside the listener. ...
Thankful to Supreme Power
God is an idea, and you are a thought in the mind of God.
Thats beautiful♡
Very grateful
Beautiful beautiful beautiful
Wow! Thank you, Rupert!
Very interesting and insightful
A lot of detail
Excellent presentation
Brilliant
Worth listening to over and over again to fully understand and digest 😂👍
Amazing. Thank you.
I loved the rose example you both used.
I really appreciate Rupert’s clarity and wisdom in explaining abstruse theological ideas. Beautiful conversation!
Thank you! ❤
God IS. ♥
I have said this elsewhere but will repeat because it helps me understand better down here in the weeds...A consciousness model can be mapped onto a religious model of the Trinity. We can "think" in terms of Sat-Chit-Ananda or Emptiness-Lucidity-Radiance or Being-Knowing-Bliss or Father-Son-Holy_Spirit. One of these may resonate better than another. Then we see that emptiness is our point of awareness and ground of being. We also see that innate lucidity supplies our knowledge and intelligence about our being and is not dependent on the noise of the material world. Our Trinitarian nature radiates joy into matter.
This is one of my favourites. Makes me cry. It carries my mind to the truth.
I never thought of it that way, it makes it way clearer now. I came to the conclusion yesterday and spoke about it saying that a good way to describe how were in god is the movie Osmosis Jones. I believe I was guided to this video through the concept of synchronicity which is hard to explain. I like to refer to it as divine flow which we’re able to metaphorically tune to it like you would tune a guitar or any instrument to a specific key
God is real. No doubt about it. I’ve been in His presence. There is nothing like it.
Ty.
elegant...simple
"Split wood, I am there. Lift up a rock, you will find me there."
"I am", the separate egoic self, said. Forget this "I am" crap. It will only lead to confusion. Wholeness is not aware of itself. The moment it is, separation begins. Separation begins with the statement, "I am." Only the ego says I am, or "I".
It is not possible for the ego to say anything. Thoughts don't speak. Ideas don't think.
The question I have, how do we ever get from "I AM" (person) to what IS (conciusness) w/ language. Appears that in using language it would be infinetrly more productive to start w/ "conciousness" as all that is, THE creator, etc. rather than a "God" ...
@@osvaldovaldes10009 AM and BEING aren't words to describe a person. That which says "I" is the BEING but the I is not the BEING, though it is also not separate from it.
💖Yes😊Thank You Rupert for That Clarification🌻That lS.. The FOUNDATION for our Attitude Thought-s and for Every Response and Every Action on the lmmediate personal level and Collectively🙏And THAT Inner Conscious Awareness and Recognition of The One-ness of l AM and Understanding of lTS Esential Nature As The PURE Unconditioned Being result in True Happiness Harmony and Peace in the 🌎
... 😍🥰 That's so beautiful.
Inside of all of us there is the same I am.
Contemplate what you share... is so wonderful. 🥰
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We are all God. There is not two. ❤
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Thank you Rupert for all that you share.
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💖Thank You🌺for sharing Rupert🙏l just wish to point that God does Not punished Nor does God rewards anyone. It lS our lndividual actions that bring upon us consequennces of those actions depending upon Whom we S e r v e personal s e n s e of self of selfishness or do we Serve God for the Love of God?🙏and just to add that being "childlike" IS Being God like, yet being "childish" IS to be of human foolishness🙏
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Solipsism: the Self is all that can be known to exist, except God is all that can be known to exist
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Advaita is my experience also 🙏🙏
Actually the bible (if we interpret appropriately) agrees with the idea that GOD the father judges no man. But has given all judgment to the son. The son in this case is human beings or all humanity as a single entity . See John 5:22. Of course major denominations have applied their own spin to this verse. Like it or not.
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I love it
@9:15 He was going to say what believing we are a separate self can only lead to, then he was interrupted and didn't finish the sentence. Does anyone know what he would have said?
I got to know that it'll be a retreat in July from home, can somebodhy tell me how subiscribe the retreat?? thanks
Without any concept or knowledge of God, without that conditioned mind, what would this infinite being be?
consiousness
The Bible says We were Made in His Image..God Bless you
The only thing that seems to have a quality is patterns like a Candle Flame, Whirlpool, Tree or Person, etc, we are self aware and know we will dissipate and forget that We are undulating and changing each now, the Torture comes from separation of All. Time is the trap, throw this away as well.
It's Me,Gracie again. I just wanted to give you a Jesus Song by Allison Krause called "A Living Prayer". My New favorite. If you don't hear it here,check it out with lyrics.🎇🐦⚕️
“On that day you will realize that I am in my Father, and you are in me, and I am in you.”
John 14:20
Can anybody help me? I totally agree with the infinite being and amness-isness, but what about prayers? Are prayers useless? To whom we are praying? I have conflictions about these questions. Are prayers also parts of awereness? I can’t give the answers of these questions?
@@dorothywarren1441 going off what you just said. I’d like to point out that prayer by virtue, should be defined as no less than, “the selfs, temporary identity and alignment of will with the whole of the creator for his creation, in pursuit of a result that is in harmony with the whole. , and an opportunity for the self to shift its will towards the whole via an answered prayer, however it may be interpreted”
In my understanding prayers are a form of meditation. You pray=meditate to connect with God= consciousness.
@@CaseyJay95 I really appreciated this answer, thank you.
@@JH-ky4jf honored!
I find your explanation very interesting, but it is based on the English language. In Japanese for example, objects are more important than subjects. In other terms, to say "I am a Rose", you would literally say "Rose", or eventually "Rose is". You start by qualifying objects.
On the other side, Japanese language doesn't put the subject at the center of the world. In English you say "I see a tree", in Japanese you would say "The Tree is seen".
So my question is, what would you say about "being" (I don't like the word god either), for languages that actually almost never use the verb "to be", like in Japanese.
Isn't it another construction of the mind, based on your language, which is an interpretation of the world to describe it, like all languages?
Agreed we are consciousness i.e. experience but what if that experience is bad ?
The dream is not your problem. Your problem is that you like one part of your dream and not another. Love all, or none of it, and stop complaining. When you have seen the dream as a dream, you have done all that needs be done. -Nisargdatta Maharaj
Experience comes and goes , consciousness is always the same and is not affected by any experience, but negative emotions don,t try to get rid of them integrate them into awareness Rupert Spira and other teachers do videos on this subject .
This "dream" provides Awareness the opportunity to experience "otherness". Otherness, by definition, requires polarity. "Here" it is impossible to have a room with only "up", or a magnet with only a south pole. "Here" we can't have a coin with only one side. It is the nature of this dream.
Therefore, joy can't exist without despair, love without hate, good without bad. It is the nature of this dream. The goal isn't to try to round up all the objects you prefer and get rid of the rest. That's like trying to collect coins that only have heads.
“Bad” is simply a judgement of the mind. Observe it pass by, like a leaf on a river…
I agree with you. I hear a lot of echoes from what Rupert says, but no original thoughts. I like Rupert, and I feel enticed for some reason to listen to him, but I have a lot of questions that challenge this perspective. People selfishly say that "it all goes away", "It's all for the greater 'good' of awareness", "It's a dream" etc etc. But that's not what I'm observing. Things don't necessarily go away. Moods may come and go, but the consequences of actions do not go away. People die (they don't even know what hit them sometimes, as we just saw with that building collapsing in Miami, some of them may have been suffering for days before they died in the rubble). People get sick and feel unbearable pain (and no, not me. I'm having a very good life, btw). People are tortured and exploited. Same with animals. Also animals seem to be moved by a "cruel" nature that rules by eat or be eaten. I'm not so sure exactly why a "being" needs to make waves of death and agony.
Well I don‘t know. I think there can be more than one infinite being. It isn‘t a difference that creates infinity between the two, but levels. Certainly God, the infinite being has more knowingness than I do as an infinite being. God knows more than me and so do many other beings, both in other dimensions and on earth. I personally don‘t think we have to be one. I just don‘t. I‘m good with that.❤
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Denali.
God cannot be conceptualized because all your ideas are limited and this in unavoidable. Limitlessness cannot be meaningfully translated into limits. So its is "perfectly natural" not being to able to understand God, for that matter you do not even understand what You are, just understand that is something that has no limitations, unlike our current state of mind.
What no one appears to get, even between nondualists, is that it was an exercise of Free Will by our Mind that got us into a limited state of mind. Free Will is guaranteed to all so nothing happens in that "exercise" is bad or sinful, the pain we experience is not a punishment but a appropriate symptom of a Mind that is spitting itself apart by admission of limited thoughts into it.
God is also referred as to something that is "trinity" like, this is not however the "poetic" trinity of the God, Son and the Holy Ghost, no, the actual trinity goes like this:
"A Mind that is in the state of Self Knowledge"
Trinity > Mind, Knowledge and the Act of Knowing.
God directs his Act of Knowing to his perfect and limitless knowledge, while our Mind, in the exercise of free will, is directing its Act of Knowing to self generated thoughts.
Forgiveness and surrender are your only tools to awake my brother.
Understand what those tools are, how they work and the requirements for the job and you will soon start forgiving.
Your awakening will be the natural result of letting go. You do not acquire awakening, you let go, the awakening downs on you.
Peace brothers.
Rupert is looking Soooo old.But love him
Nah, he looks great. 🙂
Time gives, time takes away. I suspect we all feel sadness when we see this activity. We would not be human if we didn’t. It’s not Rupert’s ageing we see; it’s our own. Who wants to grow old? Who wants summer to end? Who wants to see their potential disappear? Yet this is inevitable, in the realm of the Separate Self, and the degree to which we lament losses and celebrate gains tells us how well we have grasped and integrated the higher wisdom of Advaita Vedanta, the understanding of which may be the only way to overcome sadness, regret, hope and despair in the face of Time.
Mz Nzbody, simply replace the “but” in your comment with an “and”.
@Boss Interepid You’re right. Thanks for pointing it out.
But God ('being') must also be possessed of a mathematical nature, otherwise there would be no mathematical necessities. They would all be open to choice - which they are not. The prime numbers less than 100, for example.
My suggestion is that ultimate consciousness is not of mathematical nature but it's the dream, that's of this mathematical nature.
@@sanjivsingh596 Except that their existence is not arbitrary but necessary, so they must be part of the ontic structure of reality. It's essentially the issue of Platonic Forms, which traditionally is one of Buddhism's weak points.
God was a trick of the first man who walked to keep the others behind always behind him. That first man went on to become the preacher, pandit, kings and finally the worst version of that man - A dictator. God is nothing but the most successful lie of the humans.
So Jesus was being childish by speaking about reward and punishment from God?
I fRupert is speaking with Roberto and there is no problem with that relation, all his talk about separation and relationship is pure theory. It defeats itself. God has an image of Himself apart from the world and everything in it. that everything derives its being from God doesn’t make it God. Or God is and nothing else, so that there is no way of saying my being is god’s being. Or I share God’s being without being God. He is the fountain, I am just a channel. And yet this does not speak of the perpetuity of the limited self which God will reward or punish.
Jesus was speaking in parables to people who were not ready to hear "I and the Father are one." They could not yet hear "Greater things you will do when I am gone unto the Father and the Holy Spirit is come." Jesus always spoke to the level of understanding of his audience. Paul did the same. He addressed the needs of each new church with where they were in their understanding of the Lord.
@@MaiikaK Jesus was not always speaking in parables. One has to be honest in reading in its context using proper hermeneutical rules in order to understand. But even if he was speaking in parables, parables didn't make the thing false, in some way or another there is such a thing as reward in the next life or condemnation and torment, in the mind of Jesus. and about "I and the Father are one", surely it never means, as Rupert´s wrong understanding suggests, that I is the Father, because not only is grammatically absurd, but it also denies the very idea of oneness which Jesus wanted to emphasize, which is the union of two or more, union in diversity as they are in the Trinity and in their economic union.
@@MaiikaK while this point has validity, cherry picking some quotes does not make the others less actual. We either take it all at face value or none at all
God is not an Idea.
I believe in aliens more then got it's all hear say
nonsense from not knowing point of view