Mystics & Masters: A Course in Miracles meets Rupert Spira, Part 1
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- Опубліковано 3 лис 2016
- Rupert Spira was kind enough to sit with Bill and me while we were on retreat with him at Mercy Center in San Francisco. Rupert has a clarity that sounds in the mind like a Zen gong! His insights help "connect the dots" in ways you will be thankful for. To stay in touch with me, join my elist at amytorresacim.com
Rupert Spira is absolutely the most brilliant teacher of advaita vedanta teachings he explains the oneness of all so perfectly precise clear and simple 💗
Simply do this:
Be still, and lay aside all thoughts of what you are and what God is; all concepts you have learned about the world; all images you hold about yourself.
Empty your mind of everything it thinks is either true or false, or good or bad, of every thought it judges worthy, and all the ideas of which it is ashamed.
Hold onto nothing.
Do not bring with you one thought the past has taught, nor one belief you ever learned before from anything.
Forget this world, forget this course, and come with wholly empty hands unto your God.
~Lesson 189 - A Course in Miracles
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Thanks to Rupert as through Rupert's talks I realized that it's not me who is Aware but it's Awareness who is Aware of itself
As a Course student in in-person groups for many years, I started searching for more and found Advaita. I started listening first to Mooji, then Rupert. Love this new "look" at spiritual life and I find it a perfect place to be after the Course. This interview - questions from Course people - and Rupert's wording to his answers very useful. Looking forward to listening to Part II. Thanks so much.
This was very helpful for this ACIM student.
So grateful to listen to this conversation about our true nature and identity.
Namaste’ ☮️💙☀️
Wow thanks! I don't know how it took me so long to find this!
WOW!...Beautifully explained!!!.....Total Blowout!!
The explanation that blew me away starts at 14:19. The whole idea of non duality simplified by Rupert. I have read advaita teachings of many. Rupert is the one who says it in layman terms. Clear and crisp. Sends down chills
Yes, only yourself can know yourself. Ego is an illusion, an activity not an entity. Ego doesn't do anything, you might think that it is your separate self that finds God, but it is not. It is God in you taking itself away from the awareness of the mirage, of the illusion called ego and its illusory body of thoughts, it is always God, yourself, that takes its attention away from this illusion and places it back upon itself. So only God can know God just as only awareness can know awareness. Your ego cannot know God.
@@purelife8559 Amazing.. Infact the ego’s search itself is the biggest barrier! The moment ego is not, God is ever realized!
Wonderful interview. Shows the identity of nonduality no matter in what teaching it may arise.
When people really belive they have figured it out big time, they look like Rupert. So calm and happy :).
Thank u Amy
a perfect conversation 👌
Rupert rupert I love you for your simplicity
His explanation is flawless to me. Thank you
Such a clear, concise, and complete description of Mind, Awareness, Consciousness, and Reality. I especially like that there is no such thing as "knowledge." There is only "knowing."
Thank you!
Whew! Sounding in the mind like a Zen gong, indeed! I love the directness and clarity that Rupert shares. I know this was two years ago. But so glad I watched it and all of Rupert's videos!
Wonderful Meeting. Thank you very much!
Now more than ever these words are needed.
Wow! A mind-blowing comparison of two fast track paths to liberation. thank you for this what a gift to the awakening mind
This is awesome, I have listened to Rupert and Mooji for a few years now and just recently found ACIM, I so feel like they are all great ways of teaching the same thing and I simply love that you guys brought these two souls together on ACIM!
Thanks for "getting it" Tiffany!
BULLSHIT .double talk. INSANITY. Its not the mind you idiot.....its your spirit- consciousness PRIOR to the body-brain-mind.
Beautiful. Thank you all for this x
Yeii!!!!! This knowledge is like clean water thanks !!!
You're very welcome, Jose
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This was excellent. When Rupert speaks about feelings and perceptions he actually means feelings, perceptions and fear. ACIM refers to it as our decent into fear, into littleness.
That was truly amazing!!💜🙏
One of the best Rupert interviews I have watched , he was on fire 🔥🤯
Interviewer:"Your meditations are mind blowing ,
Rupert: Well do you know what Nirvana means? It means blowing out ". 🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯 That's exactly how I feel , his mediations have really helped me and blown my mind 🙏❤️I am eternally grateful
One of the best of Rupert's explanations
So grateful for the great awakening age that is upon us!!! Finally✨🙏🏼✨
thanks. Rupert is incredible. :)
ACIM says the same thing. (“I am not a body, I am free”) excellent addition in study of ACIM to have Rupert’s insights!
Beautiful explanation by Rupert.. 😍🙏
Thank you 🙏🏻 💕
this was a stunning description....thank you for shining this light......wow.....
That was fantastic!!
wow yes..love rupert....
I love his dream/mind analogy. Beautiful.
30:40 “God freely; of herself” ☯️🕉🔯☸️
Jackpot!!! This man is exceptional (unfortunately) among theologians, for calling the game with this simple statement.
IMHO, he is The Real Deal. I am very impressed!
I prostrate myself in his general direction! 🧎🏽♀️
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Brilliant Thank you Amy
Appreciate your appreciation, Pat
Amazing! 🙏🏻🥰
Lovely! Thanks!
Thank you, Firdaus.
Thank you.
scary good....clear as a bell....god ones guys
I so want to attend one of Rupert's meditations.
He gives live webinars that you can attend. Check out non-duality.rupertspira.com/webinar
Excellent interview...
Thank you, Sherri.
Esse cara é incrível.
Verdade, Lu!
Thank you. I am curious if you could share the youtube of the meditations that Bill referred to?
Exccelent❤❤❤
🙏🙏🙏
I am thunderstruck by "A Course in Miracles." I am flabberghasted that Rupert Spira has no acquaintance with it. (And by "flabberghasted," I include "exasperated." Why does nobody seem to know this book?!)
Lovely discussion, thank you for sharing.
Whenever i feel i get close to sensing that part of me that has never changed, or something touches it that resonates, i get a physical jump or jerk. I experienced it while watching this. What is that?
Like being tapped on the shoulder by GOD, when you aren't expecting it...😊
peace is all there is..only positining will falsify it
Is there a way for The Dreamer to stop dreaming? To Wake Up?
All words mean nothing for we are the ones that give meaning to everything, every words. We wrote a big dictionnary full of words.
Yes. Happily, Selfless words can point us towards the Truth, the Awareness we already are.
Por favor hagan una traducción al español. Muchas gracias.
We need a volunteer :)
I'm happy to help!!! Amy. Just just need the transcription
Jose, thanks! Email me at miracles@amytorresacim.com and let's see if we can get this done :)
? Que postula ?
Nada real puede ser amenazado.
Nada irreal existe.
En esto radica la paz de Dios.
Asi comienza Un Curso de
Milagros, el cual establece una clara distincion entre lo real y lo irreal, entre el CONOCIMIENTO y la percepcion.
some note differences between ACIM and pure Advaita,.....while I've enjoyed both schools,...I'm wondering if both schools can be balanced or tensions resolved or synergized. Looks like such is possible, great insights :)
You know, for me, Paul, the essence of all teachings is the Same. So there is pleasure in the overlapping of paths with no need for them to be totally synergized ... the path literally disappears from under our feet as we drop belief systems and, as ACIM puts it, rise above the battleground. All I care about is the Essence, the Source ... the paths are just the temporary undoing tools.
Thanks Amy, I agree. Life is infinite as it is, so although essential reality is universally the same, as you say...the tools, paths, approaches or methodologies are diverse and different. The more useful tools will actually assist us in directly knowing/realizing the truth that liberates us. Do you have a particular version of ACIM that you personally trust and use? I have the physical 2005 copyrighted version by New Christian Church of Full Endeavor,....and I've used other online versions for discussion group studies, etc. I was just curious if you had some thoughts on this and recommendations. Thanks!
There are 2 perspectives of Reality. Top Down or Bottom Up. Rupert is sharing the Top down approch as a starting point. Either way they both meet. Both are needed for the Full Merkaba,.. and yet depending on which one is our main Starting-point, they give different experience of Reality.
Check out the ebook "The Conscious Being" by Brian Schaefer it puts all together in a most complete wholistic Approch & Understanding.
Will you post your two part interview to Rupert's youtube channel? Regular subscribers may be more likely to watch!!
Bill, let me check with Rupert and see if we can do this. Thanks for the idea!
Great ... he has an interview section on his youtube channel as well as his website, both of which need some updating! The interviews were great!
Yes, I think Rupert will post these in his own time.
Please understand that you do not respond to anything directly, but to your interpretation of it. Your interpretation thus becomes the justification for the response. Here with Rupert Spira is a very good example of this justification from interpretation..
Actually .. a major correction to Amy's quote from ACIM is that it says "Into ETERNITY crept a tiny mad idea ..." not "Into the mind of God...". So unfortunately is a misquote that misinterprets the actual meaning of that passage in the Course .. Chapter 27 section VIII Hero of the Dream.
Is the dream analogy meant to be equal to, you(awareness) and your mind(thoughts,feelings etc) in that if your not aware of being aware your minds noise becomes a reality your lost in but if your aware that your aware you know your not the mind and therefore are not pulled along by it? Like the I in the dream being fooled by the dream as being reality
lol...
A tiny mad idea did not enter God's Mind. The tiny mad idea appeared to happen in the mind of the dreamer (God's Son). Therefore God is not mad, but the dream that the Son/Dreamer is having appears to be mad. God doesn't know the content of His Son's dream because if God did, then the content would be real. God only knows that His Son is dreaming. Hence God calls His Son to awaken. This calling is heard by the Dreamer. We experience the calling by God as GRACE or the Holy Spirit in the dream of separation calling the prodigal Son to awaken and return to the realization that He is dreaming a dream that is untrue and that He has never left God or the Kingdom of Heaven.
You've got it. And very clearly, too
No. God's son is as nonexistent as you and I are. There is no other than "I Am"
Amy, es posible conseguir la traducción en español? Tu apellido es español. Gracias de corazón
Isn't there a UA-cam option to translate, Paloma? Something you can select?
The old Klein bottle!
Both the mic person is not understanding what Rupert is saying.
I cant find an answer to the topic of the creation of the world... I would love to understand it. If God has one son.. and are ONE. But the Son creates the world because of the tiny idea.. And God doesnt even know the world exists... how that is possible? If God and Son are one.. God should know about all this isnt? Its a metaphor? we should go beyond words? Thank you Im from Argentina
As Rupert explained, the one Son is having a dream---a dream that he is many. The world doesn't exist, except in the dream. God does not participate in the dream of separation and a world. It's the Son's dream. It isn't real, and God is only real. God does not participate in the Son's fantasy.
@@wcotton thats correct, but the son and God are one... so... its the same. Its like a kind of methafora saying that you cant mix the absolute with the relative. But GOD and SON are the same thing. One thing. Nothing more
@@PabloCaputto How can the Son and God be one? Go created the Son in His image and likeness, but they are not the same. The Son took on a belief in separation, but that did not affect God.
Warren Cotton acim also says that the son and god are one. Jesus also said that. The son is the manifestation. In other words god forget himself is god. Is a metafora. Everything is god “at the end”. There is nothing outside God. How could that be possible? Everything is inside God and everything is. All the teaching is to give up the thougs that believe in separation
@@wcottonRupert didn't say anything like that. He said that god is experiencing life through us.
Knowing has nothing to do with datas. Knowledge is from God only.
That is exactly matching what Spira reasons out here in the video. The "I" is a part of God. Data comes from experiences, and consciousness (God) is aware of these, and 'knows' them. This is what I have interpreted from Spiras dialogue.
@@tomg2946 I don't think God is aware of experiences. Only the "separate self" experiences, and the separate self is an illusion. God does not participate in illusions.
A propos des objets et du monde « la théorie du reflet » dans le livre »LE SHIVAISME DU. CACHEMIRE »Laksmi JO (ed, les 2 océans)est très explicite …….Tout est un reflet de la Conscience dans la Conscience
Car il n’y a pas d’objets devant le miroir de la Concience i(contrairement au miroir qui ne peut refléter qu’un objet devant ce miroir )n’y a qu’elle-même !
I'm confused! .... again
As long as you feel drawn to watch interviews like this, just let it soak in ... :)
Amy Torres thanks 🙏🏽
I've been drawn to this for quite some time ... had some amazing moments where my chattering mind has almost vanished
Unfortunately I sat a vipassna and my mind came back ten fold and sent me spiralling. All my old habits crept back in . I'll keep on practicing any how . Thanks again 😊
@@johnstewart5944 My pleasure, John. Spirals and old habits happen but don't take the mind seriously when it says that it has come back ten fold ;-) You keep practicing, like you said -- awakening is inevitable.
@@johnstewart5944 you are not confused!
Be the observer of your thoughts as they come and go! Understand the thoughts, why do they appear and go? Don’t practice or struggle to meditate. Let go and be the observer without judgements.
Eternal Love❤️❤️❤️
Continuous yet distinguishable. We live as the paradox of emptiness and lawfulness. Rupert drifts a little too far away from physical laws. Mass matters. The middle way is the true way.
15:30 "Whatever is aware of our thoughts, feelings, perceptions, is obviously not our thoughts, feelings, perceptions." WHY NOT? I always get stuck here.
Because thoughts feelings perceptions ( body mind) are always impermanent, changing and shifting, but your awareness of them is changeless. You are always aware. You can be sad one minute and then happy the next therefore these experiences change but what does not change is your awareness of whatever you experience.
wtipton28 if YOU are aware OF IT, you cannot BE IT. It can't be what you are if it appears TO YOU as an object. You wouldn't say that you are the car outside your window or the cup of coffee on your table or the tree in the forest or the dog or the woman that you see in the park, would you? Of course not. Because you have your own sense of identity and know that everything else you perceive outside of you is not you. This teaching here just takes this a little further and questions even your sense of a solid identity that you think is made up of your thoughts, perceptions, sensations and emotions. And so what is considered an object and not you now also includes these thoughts, feelings, sensations and perceptions. They are just as much objects (arguably subtler than so-called matter) as anything else outside of you. This is what's meant by the inward facing path. You single out and establish your Self as awareness by realizing that you're no thing. In other words: a thought cannot think, a perception cannot perceive, a feeling cannot feel. The outward facing path is a different story then of course and tries to merge this awareness with the objects again. And this time even with seemingly innate matter. You recognize yourself not only in thoughts etc., but in everything and everyone around you.
Depression Beard I get stuck at the outward facing path. I can’t help but still feel separation.
@@ceeIoc who is the “I” that still “feels”??? Self -INquiry!!!
Rupert escapes the "why" question when perhaps he could just say there is no answer to the "whys". The only reasonable answer would be that the Divine gets "bored" so it creates a palate of Time and Form and also the "screen" he talks of---or the "sky" some use as metaphor--in which the Lila or the "play" can be manifested.
So there is one answer to the "why"---a problem though arises. Why did "god" get bored or need some action--the movie on the screen--and where the restlessness came from--and then of course why all the suffering? And yes the "dream entities" deserve consideration. There is a touch of reality to their experience.
Can anyone do better in answering the why? Boredom? Or is the whole "spiritual metaphor" an attempt to escape the harsh reality that omg there is duality and suffering and no answer outside of that created by the ego-permeated mind?
donn smith Advaita doesn't like to go into why..
Yes michael that is why i suggest he should just say there is no answer to "why". However i think it valid to question why it is that the consciousness or god or awareness or whatever has chosen to create this world---to in one sense use all of us "non-beings" as puppets (hello trump!) in his/her/its game. Yeah i know how that can be answered by non-dualists but the beauty of their philosophy is it has developed a way to answer any question that arises---that is--given you accept their first premise! And do not dare question it.
Indian Mysticism's only true answer is because why not, its gods play..
Ultimately, there is only God so illusion never happened.. it only seems to happen.
If someone is suffering one would respond to it.. sometimes its gonna be enlightenment teachings, sometimes its gonna be money or medicine.
Or do you want to go to the suffering one and offer them the perfect description of why duality happened? Not sure its gonna quench their thirst.. Or do you yourself feel knowing the why will help you in some way?
Is it rather that you yourself have an aversion to suffering and pain? So what exactly can be done about that? If it is part of life, then nothing can be done but to do our best for ourselves and others.
Hi michael. Wow how did you answer that so fast?
Yeah i get your point and having lived in advaita ashrams for many years on and off (plus being 70 helps) i have a fairly clear idea of the whole "Lila" answer to wtf is going on here.
The buddha says there is suffering....so who or what is suffering and why would he even speak anyway if he understood --and he may have--there was no one who actually suffers? There is and the true test of any kind of "enlightening" is how one responds to that. How to behave in this play? Advaita often ignores this along with little mention of Love(yes there is some) in these philosophy lessons.
There is a lot of self-stim here too. Sometimes a kinda "hey look how intelligent i am" feel. Of course --a perfect comeback to any observations--i could be projecting. If you stay in their ballpark and play their game by their rules it all makes sense. That is the fun of listening to these talks. And they do help--another tool in the toolkit of pointers to the path to where you always already are!
Now----i do applaud any efforts to point folks in the direction of self inquiry. We need for consciousness to change and fast. Many of us feel that and we would not be feeling it if we believed all was just god playing. And i do not agree that a child starving and cold chose to do so. Or a mass murderer incarnated knowingly and so did their victim volunteer. That is non--sense from our temporal point of view. Ok from the universal perspective who is there that cares?
I do appreciate your point of view michael---it is just as valid as any. Even the pov of the non-dualists. Who is it that is not dual once they open their mouth anyway?
Thank you Amy, but not in these case.
Lo siento, Paloma. Not sure how to get this translated.
why doesn't he look at the woman, is awareness discriminatory or what :-)
He's a deluded donkey who deny real life he just in fantasy of his own false ego that say I am you are God is foolishness
"A course in miracles " wow😆
Teach me to make wine, raise the dead and make the blind to see.
Seek not to change the world. Keep your ideas and opinions to yourself. Let us be free to find out for ourself by ourselves. 😠
I swear
I don’t Understand
What are they talk about
Just repeated
NONSENSE
lol ..
One has to be careful with these kinds of things. They can lead to spiritual bypassing and depersonalization. "There is only impersonal awareness" is true, but ONLY in one lens or view.
Try telling someone being raped or tortured, "relax, only an illusory separate self could be raped or tortured". (you get my drift)
Human life can be very hard! Have you ever lost a sibling or child? This Advaita stuff is of no help in those cases. So, while we contemplate this absolute stuff, don't forget that it's only one side of the coin.
To me, Zen is more advanced than Advaita Vedanta. Zen teaches "the harmony of the relative and the absolute" (as opposed to saying "there is only the absolute" etc). When we want to philosophize, we can take on these absolute points, but we don't walk into "illusory traffic". There is wisdom in holding both views simultaneously.
The non-dual scene is full of spiritual bypassing, just be careful.
bla bla bla ... those who know rarely speak and those who do not know speak A LOT.
New age junk
It is good for Rupert to stay away from the Course in Miracles, which is nothing but a channeling of an evil spirit, a masterpiece of neurolinguistic programming to lead you to the dark side of the Force, as Darth Vader goes. However, another masters like Eckhart Tolle, even mention it in his books, like The power of now...incredible!....
A course in Miracles is not for everybody it's the quickest way to wake you up and bring you peace.
I don’t get it. I’ve even studied A Course in Miracles in the past and I still don’t get it.