Mercedes-Benz 4Matic All-Wheel Drive Explained
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- Опубліковано 9 вер 2024
- The Mercedes-Benz 4Matic all-wheel drive system is available in several different versions -- but all are branded as 4Matic or 4matic+. What are the differences and how does the version in the S-Class currently perform in real-world conditions? Ryan takes a closer look.
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Should Mercedes move to a proper torque vectoring all-wheel drive setup?
Driving Sports TV no I love how my works during the winter and off-roading
Driving Sports TV I’m guessing their engineers know more about it then me so I’ll leave it to them...😉
Maybe they should make it an option?
Please do audi's quattro
Driving Sports TV they will use torque vectors to automatically remove $$ from wallets
This guy wears more Adidas than regular street gopnik
Their current line of hoodies are really comfortable. I bought many. -RD
Love you Boris
Hahhaah i just cried
Boris? Here? Lol!
He wears more adidas track suits than Missy “Misdemeanor” Elliott!
The E wagon you showed is not a W124 model. You showed a W210.
Fields Carlisle no its S210
You mean, just like the video stated? Smartass.
@@RevolverDennis s210 is w210
@@leksasdf it doesn't though lol
///AmgFanboi74 huh?
0:23 there's a coin stuck in the passenger seat.
Falcon eyes, bravo!
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hahaha
Now that's an eye for detail
Lol
Please review x drive, Audi Quattro an Subaru. Just that slow motion acceleration on ice is great.
Audi now copies xdrive
Only a few models does. The sportier ones are still Quattro full time awd.
@@GodKing804 lol no. xdrive is utter crap, and my S1 even being an haldex makes wonders in the snow
And Haldex/BorgWagner (In i.e. Volvo)
Yeah and throw in Volkswagen 4motion too as well!
The video describes how the 4Matic system performs, but what I would have liked to learn is how it works.
Try the Engineering Explained Channel.
4Matic is brilliant. The system paired with winter tires the car feels like a billy goat. I could be in 2 feet deep snow and still drive through with ease.
Nooooo no no no no Quattro way more better
thank you was wondering
@@vasileb.5397 quattro is overrated and bad
@@wincentbatuk44That’s just untrue. An A8 with snow over its hood can effortlessly plow through, while other-brand SUVs spin their wheels.
No! ua-cam.com/video/LKoTmxkdoXE/v-deo.html @@champy1210
Had a 08 c300 4matic. It was a beast in the snow. Drive a Jeep now, it slides everywhere and is completely unstable going over 30mph in bad conditions. That was never a problem for my baby Benz.
the answer is simple: 4 ets
@@borillkageza1443 4ets+ on the later ones
I currently drive that same 08 c300 4matic
Wonder why physics cannot be beaten by higher car with higher weight centre…
Comparing Benz with Jeep? That's an insult for Benz
I drive a E-450 All Terrain Station Wagon 2021. The 4Matic system is deadly perfect! I could not ask for more.
the old one e500 4matic was the best system ever according with sbc.
Living upnorth Canada with a E63s 4matic + and it’s amazing system always give me great traction on dry, wet, ice and snow conditions.
Me and my dad always wondered what 4 matic is
Okay?? Just google it then or use your brain and think
@@AFilipj Man, only If had your gigantic brain, then maybe I could understand the difference between a wise guy and a wise man because I’m pretty sure you’re the prior.😃
Was *
@@AFilipj you're a goddamn genius, you must have an IQ of 160!!
Oh no 😮
now that am done with my daily dose of expensive cars i cant afford...off to work in my Hyundai getz two doors
This lighter and simpler system where instead of torque vectoring it uses abs actually makes sense since it is way lighter and is usually fitted to saloons . Mercedes doing it the smart way .
That wasn't a 124 series that you showed. It was an s210.
Not a w124 ...
2011 ML350 4matic still drives like a dream every time I take it up the mountains.
Drive Volvo
@@recepb.6653 My mom actually hade a Volvo C70 convertible when I was in High School. Such a fun car, would totally love to own one myself
@@mpkp2011 i was using commodore 64 pc when i was 7 now i use apple you should try 2020 xc90 . 2011 ml was rusty as far as i remember and has to go to the junkyard already
@@mpkp2011 fuck that guy. The ML350 is obviously popular for a reason. Also fuck that overblown 4 cylinder Volvo is trying to push on everyone. Dollars to donuts that Volvo xv 90 doesn't make it 9 years like the Merc did.
@@jbmazhar2000 Absolutely agree. You can't beat naturally aspirated V6s and V8s. Mine is already at 140k miles and it still looks/drives new. No rust or anything close. I have friends ask if it is a 2015 or 2017 lmao. Every Volvo ages terribly, where every Mercedes design is a true classic that will always be a head turner.
Snow and ice here in DC region. Benz owner for 2 decades now. Cs, Ss’, and now E. I so wanna test my 2016 E350 4MATIC so bad on this ice/slush situation...but don’t wanna crash. This clip gave me motivation! Wish me luck!
I have had 4 different 4 matic vehicles, W124, W210, W220, W221. It’s an excellent system, and have never gotten stuck in the northeast.
How about if it breaks,I'm doing research before I buy,I'm looking for a cls55 amg I'm leaning to no 4matic
@@joegomes1352 it’s such a simple system it really has nothing to break, just change the fluid every 60-80,000 miles which is not easy.
@@racekar80 ok thanks I have been leaning towards the 4 matic,because it snows where I live
Even living in Florida we love the 4Matic for driving in the rain; it offers more stability and most importantly peace of mind. Fortunately It's relatively inexpensive.
(edit) In the past we had a Lincoln Navigator and with its 4-wheel off the rear-end would sometimes on wet pavement give you a "Batman turn" aka donuts, but with all-wheel on a nice safe and secure driving experience. The reason I buy Mercedes is for safety and security .. in addition to everything else a Mercedes offers.
I've never had a 4Matic fail .. so if it "ain't" broke don't fix it is my feeling.
D Jaquith A Mercedes should be RWD. None of this 4 Matic stuff. Also, you can’t get magic body control with 4 matic. I drive where it snows a few times a year and I still have RWD.
My 4 matic drivetrain basically broke and we now are selling it due to the damn repairs 😂
You need 4wd in the rain? Why? Is Florida rain different? We drive rear wheel drive in the snow without any issues in the Nordic countries.
This dudes voice sounds like a instructional video on DVD from the 90s.. Dope
Just tried my 4matiq 2020 cla45 on snow and ice with summer sport tires. Worked great. Moving on.
I prefer whatever works and is reliable. It is much easier to replace brake pads than broken AWD system in Audi. By "works" I mean from "adventure" SUV I expect for the wheel that is off the ground not to spin.
For SUVs, I would love to have more choice of advanced settings. It would be great to set the minimum torque to all wheels - so I can have a "full-time AWD". I want to be in control and am tired of relying only on some code all the time. Saying that when listening to Dave Coleman it seems that some manufacturers are good at it already.
It can be assumed that with strong brakes and a well set up system the brake based "torque vectoring" might perform well. I think that requires some extra power to work well, not like Subaru and their 152hp Crosstreck. I would worry about the brake system heat but it is still cheaper to make a robust brakes system than complicated AWD.
BTW: good luck repairing your 5 y.o. Quatro.
Also, I wonder how reliable the new "active torque vectoring" systems from Honda and Toyota will end up to be. I am curious, I do not have any assumptions or knowledge about clutch packs.
I would love to see some informative comments about what I`ve written. I am happy to change my mind. AWD system is interesting to me and I assume I am wrong in any of these thoughts.
There is nothing like a Mercedes. Their systems are the best in the world, and they don’t need to go backwards trying to copy a VW. I had VW cars before and their wheel systems are very unreliable. Specially in any water conditions.
Once you drive a Mercedes, as they say. You will NEVER leave it.
The ABS sent power to the front wheels? Are you sure? Also that wasn't w124.
Well the ABS block brakes the rear wheels and thus the power can go to the front instead of slipping
A good explanation, thank you. I'll stick with Mercedes as their engineering is far superior to any other car manufacturer.
Toyota much
LOL.
I mean, except for Vag's Quattro system....
Thanks a million for the explanation, very practical. I believe that Mercedes Benz have done a thorough research that have brought them to where they are today.
I would rather have the car with the 4Matic+. If anything, let them improve on the 4Matic+ system.
Works great on my C 43 AMG. On ice with Pirelli P Zero tires I can still climb hills. Braking well that's a different story that's where you really need snow tires.
B_M_F_710 works like a charm on my GLC43 suv! Rear tires are wider then front and torque split is awesome!
@@jondoe1310 That's because the AMG Performance 4matic is a different system, and it comes with torque vectoring.
Cool, thanks for the explanation.
There's no need for torque-vectoring because whatever shortcomings the 4MATIC couldn't avoid is well taken care of by the ESP or Electronic Stability Program, the ETS or Electronic Traction System and ASR or Acceleration Slip Regulator (Traction Control). These systems work well together.
By the way, when you mentioned the emergence of 4MATIC, the footage of the silver Benz was not of a W124 but that of a W210 estate. You might wanna review that.
You say W124, but show W210 with an 1997 E Class. "Experts"... lol
W124 E300 4-matic is the greatest
Your vid is just perfect. In terms of info, length, details and overall. Thanks
This is very familiar to the Genesi HTRAC AWD system. Basically identical. Pretty cool.
I have a 2007 with fourmatic and I’ve gone through crazy dry sand like it was asphalt.
I have a 2017 Audi Q7
It doesn't matter what all wheel drive system it has because under minus eight degrees Celsius the front defog isn't strong enough to melt off the ice off the front windshield
Also if it's snowing the front wipers stick to the windshield after about 5 minutes with the defog on full
so all wheel drive two wheel drive horse drawn cart doesn't matter if you can't see where you're going as with the Audi of course the Mercedes blows it out of the water
Audi really screwed up the Q7 I was very excited about it when I custom ordered it
there's so many problems with that car unlike my E550 which works flawlessly with a hundred and twenty thousand miles on it
Peter McDonald oof shoulda got a toya
Oh I'd definitely say Mercedes-Benz and Porsche do more testing (real world conditions) than the other German brands. Volvo does well in the cold too, of course.
Buy a G wagon or porsche cayenne you can hammer on them in minus 30 Celcius
Just bought a used E550 with 15k mi. Any tips besides oil and basic maintenance on how to keep it running well to 120k+?
What I found up in Canada for the E550 mine has 200,000 km on it feels like it's brand new I had the extended warranty through Mercedes they replace the air suspension for free zero deductible within a hundred km of the warranty expiring so I understand that the extended warranty is a little more expensive through Mercedes but if you can get it I would highly recommend it
Nothing has gone wrong with that vehicle but I've always had it serviced through Mercedes that's probably why as soon as you take it to another mechanic they try to put on aftermarket parts and charge you for Mercedes parts even the windshield wipers it makes a difference
It's also more expensive to get work done at Mercedes but I guess in the long run it's worth it
My e5550 is one of the best cars I've ever had I can see why it's used as a taxi in certain parts of the world the thing is a tank
Talks about weight loss from not using clutches for torque vectoring. But I’m sure this puppy weight 4700+ lbs. Is another few lbs going to wreck mpg and handling of this car?
boostedmaniac typical american thinking. Actually yes, it will “wreck” the handling and mpg because in European cars, especially Mercedes or Bmw, handling is the most important part of a car. Cheers
Mati Mati torque vectoring helps handling. I’m sure it was omitted because of cost to the manufacturer and thinking not a must have for this type of vehicle.
Leave it as it is. It savrd my life!
For normal everyday driving 4matic is more than enough, but when it comes to performance and cornering it just isn't as good as a conventional torque vectoring system.
That's why AMG models have torque vectoring.
Hey that’s my car. Watching this now during a snow storm
How's the reliability of this system? I reckon it's better than in BMW xdrive which grenades itself if you change tyre dimension
Bavaria is the Mexico of Germany. I'm sure the 4Matic is a much better system otherwise Mercedes wouldn't be so stout about it. They've made cars for the ultra elite for decades, they're luxury that run forever. Especially the w124 4Matic.
@@zoxischillin8462 my w210 has got broken glow plugs and I stopped driving it 3 years ago. ain't that a bitch? Are you German? why do you speak poorly of Bavaria?
Audi Quattro used mechanical torsen differentials, therefore most robust. That also translates to some disadvantages compared to other systems.
I have Porsche cayenne is bad in snow but not ML350.
they still use torsen on a4 and higher
a3 and lower are haldex
Porsche doesn't use Quattro found in Audi. New Quattro Ultra system uses some sort of Haldex system. Eventually torsen differentials will go away.
From what I see on Polish channels the "robust" does not necessarily mean reliable. I am not sure though, I just saw some repair videos etc.
not true. Why robust. Dangerous and in some situation unusable. The 4 matic with 4ets is more robust and has 3 diff locks with brake assist. Audi had only 2 diff lock manualy, which are allways broken if you should not be careful.
w124 had in 1987 the better system.
Thats fact.
great video. Acura's SH-AWD is still my favorite though.
Its probably the best too.
@@jbmazhar2000 it is
This is just awwwwwesommme....Could u please do a detailed comparo against X drive vs Quattro vs Symmetrical all wheel drive.????????
Mercedes is doing awesome job i have to and love them
Fantastisch!!
Best Mercedes ever built, was none other than the 124 chassis..
w124 was the most badass Benz. my brother had the 320 coupe, awesome car.
Now we are talking business! That's why we have two W124 Sedans. Currently looking to get a 420 (:
*W123
@@soufri well yes but actually no
Nothing is better than a good old w123 or w124 .....
I read somewhere that when mercedes adds 4x4 it does not affect turning circle, unlike other rwd based cars..
That goes for more recent models
4matic has probably been one of the reasons why I like mercedes
Very nice video and explanation that is east to understand.
Thanks, now i know how it works!
I love the color of that beast
I currently own a ‘05 E500 4matic, ‘06 E55 and a 2009 E63, they’re all w211 platform But E500 seems to have the highest fuel consumption and lowest performance considering the fact its equipped with 722.6 transmission 5 speed, it puts down really good power and torque around 3-4k rpm 2nd gear but when you shift it loses all the momentum. But I’m E63 with 722.9 transmission it’s much improved but the down side is it can’t handle as much torque
Turbo Bandit sells some good actuators and valve plates for improving the 5G-Tronic, if you need more transmission performance :)
I personally dont even think the 7G-Tronic is so much worse with torque, it still can hold up up to 1000NM or Torque, only the big peakes of ABS or ESP control kill it in my opinion, mostly saw them getting destroyed in ML420/450s that had 300k+ km on them while getting used and pushed a lot :)
I saw one comparison with quatro, xdrive and 4 matic uphill and in a large circle in heavy snow and quatro won hands down.
stupid kid no one brought u here to mention quattro its talk time for 4 matic
@@almighty9662 yea quatro has been around for longer than 4matic. They won lots of rallys with it. Speaking of. You need to be at least 90 to call me kid, old man. I do have a mercedes though but not 4matic.
as with 4 matic there are numerous "forms" of quattro. A3, TT, Mercedes A: FWD with haldex driven rear wheels, R8 same but rotated 180° (rwd with haldex attached front wheels) "quattro ultra" (a bit like the thing in the A3) and even normal "quattro" in the A4, A6 and A8 variants had different variants with sometimes up to 3 torsen diffs. while 4matic except for the first gen didn't use locking diffs. (except for the G classes now also called 4matic but here the diff locks are manually). Torque splits earlier were always 50:50 with the old quattros, which made them understeer. While mercedes always used a rear bias. For a few years now Audi also uses a rear bias. And for x-drive: basically a RWD with an electronically controlled wet clutchpack that varies the power to the front wheels. (not like previous Haldex systems just when there is slip but continuously).
Back to your test: it may depend on what year, what cars, what driver and what tires. And lastely who did the test (with which intention). There are several tests on YT which show an Audi Q5 and a BMW X5 with the X5 loosing or an Q3 and X3 with the same result. And when car magazines tried to recreate the test, they werent able to halt the BMWs like in the videos. I saw a test on TV where a Tesla S, a Subaru WXR STI and an A45 were tested last winter, and for traction from 0-60 the A Class with the shi$% Haldex beat the other two (it looked like they already had a haldex system that gave torque to the rear wheels when flooring it, no matter if there was slip to help initial launch.) I have a GLK, which to my knowledge has a torque split of 50:50 and a electronically self-locking center diff. To get the ESP lamp to light up (which indicates slip) i needed all 4 tires on ice or real commitement on snow. (of course good tires are essential anyway and my snow driving was limited to 20cm of snow) I have driven RWD Cars for the last 20 years in every wheather from snow and ice to hail, to ice rain and storm, so the 4 matic feels almost idiot proof to drive to me. (except for the fact that idiots don't realize how slippery it really is and then are surpised when they have to brake.... when braking it doesn't matter that much how many wheels are driven...)
Now this explains everything. My Porsche cayenne stuck in the snow but my wife ML350 never had any problem in high snow.
Thank you for the video. Explanation quite clear
4:21 black Ice....impressive
That 1st gen cummins ram at 4:07 tho
Knew i wasn't the only one who paused it.
A beautiful luxury sedan!
It has a low ground-clearance, so isn't an off-road vehicle to need continuous torque-vectoring. It can use braking, on the few occasions that it needs, to redistribute torque to individuals wheels, so it makes sense. For a truly off-road vehicles, you would need torque-vectoring.
I doubt many people understand either system! However, if a Feature vs Benefit comparison was presented that would help! IMO, the Torque Vectoring System does provide much better Handling, but is more expensive to manufacture and is considerably more heavy. Remember, in this "Day & Age" weight is Bad News. On the other hand, I think the 4 Matic System is much lighter and less expensive to manufacture, and probably can be better integrated with other vehicle systems, using Electronic Controls. I suspect one down side of the 4 Matic System maybe shorten Brake Life because it uses each Wheels Brakes on/off to control wheel rotation. Overall, I think the 4 Matic System wins the Comparison Test.
Great slo mo videos and i didn't know there is snow version of Pirelli sottozero tires.
“Winter Sottozero” is specifically labeled as a winter/snow tire.
Hi Driving Sports TV. We hope that you could do a few more with the BMW's xDrive system as well as the Audi's Quattro and Volkswagen 4Motion. We want your kind of review and explanation. Thanks in advanced!
That was awesome. Thank you for this video.
Good explanation, but you need a cameraman for filming better and up close views of important things you do, like the 2 lunches toward the end of your video
This was the first “AWD explained” video we produced and I absolutely agree with you. If you see our later versions, such as the one for Subaru or Toyota, they are more comprehensive.
nice and beautiful cars, fun to drive when they are new. Still love Lexus much more.
Thanks for posting this video as there are non other which really describe the system on UA-cam.
Sadly you only talked about two generations of 4matic in the video.
I would have loved to have all generations and their differences explained and to know in which car which system is used as well. Similar to the Subaru AWD video.
I'm especially interested about the systems that were used in the 203 and 204 C class generations. Can they be used with permanent AWD? Which type of centre differential is used? Can this system be used for sporty driving, knowing that it can't compare to a torque-vectoring system? Can it work with electronic assistants deactivated and a LSD fitted?
I've owned 2 w203 c classes and both have a rear bias AWD and never got stuck in snow or ice or actually ever😂I have no clue how the system works but I do know it WORKS
I just wonder why ppl even care the fuel economy and performance on a full size luxury Lwb sedan with 8 cylinder? So, the extra weight doesn’t matter.
That new 4.0 v8 is very economical for its size and power... With no problem at all on open road you can do 9-10 l/100km (25mpg) with normal driving... Great engine
Torque vectoring not only adds extra weight, the unit will need to be maintained with oil changes. Skip this as routine maintenance and they will break.
Super video
….Thank you
The 4matic wagon showcased while u were referring to W124 is w210 (S210)
If it is solid frozen ice. Like after an ice storm but no snow nothing will not move. Dry ice is safer to drive on. It is just compacted snow. You would have somewhat more of a grip on compacted snow. Or dry ice as it's known.
It is not a Toyota Land cruiser, but it does the job that it is promised on street...so respect...good job...
thank you.. I want to buy this car
recon i have a gen 3 in my 2017 c400 4matic
nice vid :-)
the one shown E class from 96 is W210 T-Waggon (S210) not a W124! ffs
Very informative!
yes they should do torque vectoring,at lest on AMG models
as someone that owns both mercedes and acura, the Acura sh-awd torque vectoring system is way superior and has more maneuverability on roads and freeways in snowy conditions, you can take an exit ramp at 50 mph in snow with no problem where is mercedes 4matic will leave you in a ditch calling aaa.
Thank you for your excellent video 📼
Nice video, good explanation.
1:20 , says E-class, but shows brand new S-class... ``experts``
Says E because at fifth generation of E you will find this 4matic tech
@@stefanstefan2210 i know lol....but if you are talking about E class then you should show E class not S class....ok?
Great video!
My 2012 tl was the best in the snow.
Wish the S63L/S65L had torque vectoring.
i like the simpler & lighter system better
Once you’ve own an S Class you don’t wanna drive anything else.....Facts!
Indeed.. if hou're a 78yo retired fat cooker, or if you're all-day personal driver of someone 😂. Otherwise, you could love how keep the curves a light car and how precise would be a manual gearbox downshift before the hairpin turn.
I guess you NEVER OWNED an S Class or probably never driven one. Hurry up cause you only live once.
@@bkallday2998 you guessing are pretty wrong: i owned w140 ( 2003-2004) and i've driven s500 and s320d both w220. l keep my opinion . But it's really stupid to believe i could have an opinion vithout driving one at least.
napraznicul : Like I said once you’ve OWN one you don’t wanna drive anything else....Facts!
I’m not talking about driving or parking an S Class. OWNING it and driving in luxury state to state. Oh my bad you probably from a SHITHOLE place.🇺🇸🤣
Love thee videos please make more like this love awd comparison systems I love this winter and awd please keep
Making more : )
so you add all wheel drive and then you find a way to make it lighter so it doesnt eat that torque while you can have a RWD which is naturaly more reliable and responsive with better MPG. the stability of the cars comes from the body and wight distribution itself. I am not saying that AWD is useless - there are many regions where the populations live up the hill and may be difficult to reach it without some sort of AWD during the winter ( not that the tyre matters more but you know how it is with some people and their knowlede based on assuption... )
This system works great, no need to improve it
Excellent video
As long as the system gets the job done, then the simpler and cheaper is a better solution.
Thank you for the video it provided explanation of value and has inspired me to learn about the purpose and proper use of rear wheel drive, front wheel drive, all wheel drive and so on.
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How about hydroplaning I live in Florida and it pours out here no snow or ice. I had a s500 Benz from the 80s and had to buy (Falken) tires that had a canal like in the middle of the tire. I tried Michelin and Goodyear tires but it didn't solve the problem only Falken had the better result but anyway if that car would've had ESP I wouldn't have to waste more money to find a better tire. Nice review on 4Matic I always wondered what does that mean.
Very good , informative video
Benz 4Matic is fine for the consumers that generally buy Benz. Having owned one, and an Audi, and AWD Volvo, the torque vectoring certainly improves handling, but my Benz (an E-class) never really felt like it wanted pushed like an Audi or BMW's I've driven. Benz has also marketed themselves as a luxury car that places luxury above sportiness, unlike other German cars, so an AWD system for bad weather is good enough, and this demonstrates that.
You're right with normal Mercedes cars. But don't forget the AMG models, their current lineup has better driving sedans and SUVs than BMW and Porsche. They use the torque-vectoring AMG Performance 4MATIC, it's a totally different beast.
@@eddgrs9193Agreed. Do you when the AMG model shifted to the new 4 matic system? Maybe I can find a decent E63 4matic to try out for a few years. My A6 is about toasted at 180k miles lol
@@jimfisher9680 99% of Audis are toast after the warranty expires
Is this music from the Sims lol?
Yeah.. That's gonna be a W210 regardless of model year. It's called a "chassis code" because it refers to the chassis, not registration date.
The video seems to only show you doing things on ice and snow that you would not normally do on ice and snow!
If you live somewhere that needs this then you would buy a 4x4 rather than an S class.
For normal road use it seems a bit pointless. Here in UK they do not seem to sell many.
How does it compare with Audi and Porsche?
why u showing the w210 when talking about the 124?
I owned audi a6 4.2, bmw x5 4.4i, subaru legacy, bunch of hondas, 2003 s430 4matic was by far the best in Manitoba winter! in my experience 4matic is superior system.
What if you turn the esp off?? Can you make a slow mo video please