Is All-Wheel-Drive REALLY Better Than Front-Wheel-Drive In The Snow?

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  • @jackjr1
    @jackjr1 2 роки тому +570

    Would love to see FWD + snow tires vs AWD + all-season

    • @msully725
      @msully725 2 роки тому +5

      +1

    • @Armmani2000
      @Armmani2000 2 роки тому +77

      Snow tire wins, it makes a huge difference, much more than AWD. Winter tires also stop much faster than all seasons.

    • @bryanhersman4037
      @bryanhersman4037 2 роки тому +47

      I personally have a 2006 AWD Outback on all seasons and a 2022 FWD Sonata on brand new Blizzacks and the Outback will still out accelerate the dedicated snow tires in snow and ice. The snow tires of course stop the Hyundai faster which is probably more important but no question AWD is better for traction even with bad tires. Of course you can also put snow tires on the Subaru and have the best of both worlds.
      Where the FWD Hyundai pays off is with 50 miles per gallon compared to maybe 1/2 that on the Subaru.

    • @Armmani2000
      @Armmani2000 2 роки тому +17

      @@bryanhersman4037 Of course AWD with snow tires is the best option for safety.

    • @TheNotimprezed
      @TheNotimprezed 2 роки тому +29

      Awd + all seasons always crushes fwd with winter tires in acceleration but the winter tire stops and turns better.

  • @bsenka
    @bsenka 2 роки тому +140

    Living in the Canadian prairies, I definitely do not miss the days when I had front wheel drive cars in the winter. Since I started driving 4x4s, I've pretty much forgotten that winter driving was supposed to be a problem.

    • @billseiler4952
      @billseiler4952 2 роки тому +10

      With blizzak snow tires on my 4 x 4 RAM…..you are correct….no more white knuckle driving

    • @William971
      @William971 Рік тому

      Why I love fwd with nice winters during the winter. I feel alive and all my worries go away. Awd feels like god mode, no rush. Whatever makes us happy I guess.

    • @OldSchoolZ-wy2yx
      @OldSchoolZ-wy2yx Рік тому +3

      Always drove '80's and '90's FWD manual cars during the winter between Montreal and Gatineau, never had problems in heavy snow or freezing rain. My '07 Civic and '13 Fiesta on the other hand, are absolutely worthless on even a hint of rain. In my region, trucks and SUV's are just a threat to everybody on the road during the winter; they can't grip, they flip and tumble way too easily.

    • @dwnrange7812
      @dwnrange7812 11 місяців тому +1

      The older cars were also much lighter, which makes a big difference in snow/winter

    • @4orrcountry
      @4orrcountry 4 місяці тому

      ​@@dwnrange7812 They were? How so? Links? Source?

  • @Orange_pickles
    @Orange_pickles 2 роки тому +54

    All seasons have come along way, particularly from the European manufacturers. However, so have snow tires. I’m running Blizzaks on our 2015 Sienna AWD, and it’s incredibly stable in the snow. Remember kids, AWD helps you go, but tires allow you to stop.

    • @DejaView
      @DejaView 2 роки тому +3

      I've got a set of Toyo "Celsius" on FWD 2009 Sienna. Absolutely unbelievable what I could do & where I could go in the snow. Got a good laugh last winter at the local farmers market. We had a fairly good snowfall & they only plowed a portion of the lot. On a crowded morning numerous people wound up using an unplowed area. Some parts if it already had tracks & were partly packed down but still not easily travelled. I'm pretty good dealing with the snow & I don't do stupid stuff. I think about what I'm doing, but I drove in, parked, & drove out again with virtually no difficulty while watching about a dozen people pushing, shoveling & rocking a hopelessly stuck AWD Lincoln Navigator. You just gotta have tires that are made for the job! I could just dig in & go. Never even activated the traction control...

    • @christopherryan7178
      @christopherryan7178 Рік тому +1

      @@DejaView I had celcius on a few cars and loved them but just got Michelins cross climate.. an even better tire all around (a bit $$ but it is what it is)

    • @LafemmebearMusic
      @LafemmebearMusic Рік тому

      @@DejaViewyou got lucky. And it was flat. Add some hills and god save you lol 😅

    • @adamowens5507
      @adamowens5507 Рік тому

      my 255/45/19 all season W rated nitto’s were worth every penny , they were about 1200$ . got caught in a few snow storms in my 14’ taurus with front wheel drive. Did really well. Had to climb some steep gravel hills in the deep snow that i didn’t think it would make it up and it climbed right up never broke traction all the way to the top in second gear . never left me stranded at 180k miles now. pulled a chrysler 300 out of the snow once. my buddy buried his 15’ silverado in the drive way and it wouldn’t move in 4 wheel drive, we tried to use it to pull the taurus out . were in deep mud and snow and i took my traction control off on the taurus and gave her he** and it started moving, it rained mud that day. Got out just fine and he was barely able to get his 1980 350 small block out but it did cause it has 35’s and able to pull the newer truck out taurus didn’t budge it.

    • @Wised1000
      @Wised1000 7 днів тому

      All season tires continue to suck regardless of manufacturer. The improvement has been all WEATHER tires. The most known and probably the best is the Michelin Crossclimate. The fact that other brands have begun to copy them to the point of patent infrigement (if there is a patent) is good evidence.
      "All weather" tires are tires with enough winter traction to satisfy severe winter service yet can be used all year because of newer rubber compounds that are sturdy enough for summer use while maintaining compliance in conditions below freezing. In addition, the different compound The interlocking V pattern or the tread provides excellent dry and wet weather performance to boot. The only drawback is that they are not the sharpest handling tire in the market yet as good a handler as most "touring" all season rubber on the market. Fianally, making them the best tire for wherever it snows is that fact that they have very good tread life!

  • @JamesPhieffer
    @JamesPhieffer 2 роки тому +37

    A light fuel pedal foot will help a lot when it comes to 2wd vehicles.
    But when it comes to putting the power down under full throttle, there's no comparison.
    Assuming equal power getting to the wheels, the 2wd is trying to put down twice as much power through each tire compared to the AWD. That means a lot of wheelspin for the 2wd, not much movement.

  • @robertwright5487
    @robertwright5487 2 роки тому +31

    Truth is that RWD, FWD, and AWD will perform better with dedicated snow tires. Studded snow tires are really great. I totally enjoy your videos. On the lighter side with lots of laughs. 😃

    • @jeffk464
      @jeffk464 2 роки тому +1

      So Subaru with studded snow tires.

    • @dakota5571
      @dakota5571 2 роки тому +2

      @@jeffk464 snows a lot where I’m from and I see wrxs with snow tires going 50+ through snowy backroads often.

    • @iffykidmn8170
      @iffykidmn8170 2 роки тому +2

      @@dakota5571 at 50+ how can you tell what type tires they have?🤔

  • @R3AL-AIM
    @R3AL-AIM 2 роки тому +42

    TC off can do better in the snow with a FWD sedan than having it on. Especially thick stuff, TC will just shut the car down before it gets moving.

    • @oceanzu6585
      @oceanzu6585 2 роки тому +3

      Depends on the model.
      My fwd Suzuki once stuck in snow and the TC off did the opposite. Turning off TC will shut down your break assist, and the break based torque vectoring will also be disabled.
      From my personal experience TC is vital to FWD open diff, cause you will need the TC to distribute the torque.

    • @jmc6000
      @jmc6000 2 роки тому +1

      @@oceanzu6585 works the exact opposite on a Hybrid transmission

    • @ArtStamos
      @ArtStamos 2 роки тому +1

      Yes all you can do is let the air out on the Hybread and put it in Eco mode. The low profile tires just no good for snow, no way to turn off traction control on hybread

    • @Zanderthelab
      @Zanderthelab 2 роки тому +2

      Unless you ease into it but yes.

    • @petermacdonald6332
      @petermacdonald6332 2 роки тому +2

      @@ArtStamos maybe the Camry but not all hybrids.

  • @wanglee21
    @wanglee21 2 роки тому +66

    You guys should show the difference in AWD vs 4WD in snow with the same tires if possible

    • @jeffrentsch4318
      @jeffrentsch4318 2 роки тому +5

      That is actually what I thought they were comparing. Recently drove my YJ 2x4 high in snow. Amazed how good 3 peak rated tires were. Especially compared to how poor traction is in my long bed 2x4 pickup, also triple peak. Both vehicles have General grabber at2.

    • @BBBYpsi
      @BBBYpsi 2 роки тому +1

      4 WD wins easily

    • @Anything_Goes1975
      @Anything_Goes1975 Рік тому +2

      ​@BBBYpsi absolutely incorrect... ON ROADS with snow and ice anyway. ON road AWD is king, off road 4x4 us king.

  • @patjackson1657
    @patjackson1657 2 роки тому +9

    Great fun! I just put Nokian all weather tires on my 2013 ES350 Lexus and drove about 800 km (500 mi) in -20 c (-4 f). Grip and stopping were great. Return trip it was around 0c (32 f) and grip and stop were acceptable. The amazing thing was I hit 6.7 l/100km ( 40 plus mpg) out, and 7.4 l/100km (high 30 mpg) on the way back. Some weight needs to be given to driver experience and skill. going out, I passed 2 different Wranglers in the ditch, on their doors!

  • @matteidens62
    @matteidens62 2 роки тому +50

    The AWD on my 21 Camry is fantastic. I've been able to get out of my driveway with ease, even after the snow plows put more snow at the end of the driveway. AWD is always highly recommended

    • @richscott2483
      @richscott2483 Рік тому +3

      Camry Front Bumper Crunch, pieces all over. Do not drive over DPW Snow Plow that gets pushed into your driveway entrance. Could be heavy and ice mixed in. Do not damage your vehicle by taking an unnecessary chances. The Camry is not a snow plow.

    • @robertsims9201
      @robertsims9201 Рік тому +2

      I'll take my ancient 02 Subaru Forrester 5 spd w/ asymmetric AWD any day over Toyota's AWD.

    • @christopher-gardner
      @christopher-gardner Рік тому +1

      @@robertsims9201 06' Legacy GT here, snow = fun in a Subaru

    • @nismo_zrz3321
      @nismo_zrz3321 11 місяців тому

      @@robertsims9201I’d like to see how that does against a new awd Camry in a race in the snow

    • @burnthecandleatbothendz
      @burnthecandleatbothendz 11 місяців тому

      2022 subaru crosstrek limited owner here .crosstreks are the best !

  • @jessewalter8738
    @jessewalter8738 2 роки тому +18

    '82 Nissan Stanza (12 years) '94 Camry (27 years). Many trips DC to Central PA and a few DC to Buffalo in snow. Cars were quite capable. '14 RAV4 AWD and '19 Lexus RX 300 AWD - handle snow a bit better.

    • @thomasluby1754
      @thomasluby1754 2 роки тому +1

      Would now like to see a real SUV (i.e. Toyota 4Runner, Chevy Tahoe, etc.) go against an AWD compact SUV (i.e. Toyota Rav4, Honda CRV, etc.) in powder like that. My current Ford Escape cannot compete with my old truck based and selectable 4wd SUVs like the 1997 GMC Jimmy, 2000 Jeep Cherokee and 2003 Jeep Liberty. Big difference in the snow. PS Do not ever buy a Ford Escape or maybe any Ford for that matter.

  • @leerosky
    @leerosky 2 роки тому +3

    I used to have a 2014.5 Camry SE V6 with Michelin Primacy MXM4 tires. In 2015, Lexington, Kentucky got two snow storms. One of them was just over 12 inches and the second one just over 17 inches and my Camry never got stock. That car was such a tank on the snow. It wasn’t a sport car, but it did it’s job just fine.

  • @TheGecko213
    @TheGecko213 2 роки тому +20

    Winter tires are more important in snow then AWD

    • @Wasabi9111
      @Wasabi9111 2 роки тому +1

      Agreed. But going up hill, I think awd has an advantage. It’s too bad there’s a winter tire shortage this yr. It seems like most are already out of stock.

    • @theycallme_nightmaster
      @theycallme_nightmaster 2 місяці тому +5

      not true. AWD makes a huge difference in corners in snow (and in general)

    • @JohnnyUtah9173
      @JohnnyUtah9173 4 дні тому

      Than, not then 🤦🏼‍♂️

    • @gamingwitharlen2267
      @gamingwitharlen2267 День тому

      @@Wasabi9111 AWD doesn't magically add grip, if the tires can properly grip the road, then you simply won't go up the hill.

  • @OURBENEFACT0RS
    @OURBENEFACT0RS 2 роки тому +26

    The snow stopping test should really be done on a flat snow surface without loose show - that variable is difficult to control for otherwise.

  • @Kenneth_R
    @Kenneth_R 2 роки тому +21

    The problem was that the Camry had Texas plates. lol

  • @adrienchan2097
    @adrienchan2097 2 роки тому +7

    I noticed the Mazda side is snow route ready . The Camry side is snow in front of tires .. not shovel yet that’s y Camry was harder to take off too

  • @crw3673
    @crw3673 2 роки тому +8

    Amazing how Pontiac had a awd car the 6000 STE and S/E models, from 1988 to 1990. The awd sedan concept didn't catch on, but 30 years later is the norm. GM was ahead of their time on a lot of innovations that are the norm now.

    • @DroneStrike1776
      @DroneStrike1776 11 місяців тому

      What are you talking about? So the 1985 BMW 325ix wasn't an AWD sedan? The Subaru Leone was sold in 1972 and it had AWD, wagon, but it still had 4 normal doors. So how was GM ahead?

  • @NotOnYourLife
    @NotOnYourLife 2 роки тому +61

    I was shocked to the core to discover that all wheel drive was better than front wheel drive in the snow. It was totally unexpected that twice the drive potential would mean twice the traction potential. That's crazy!!! 😜

    • @crw3673
      @crw3673 2 роки тому +13

      Your sarcasm is hilarious 🤪

    • @chrisnah6540
      @chrisnah6540 2 роки тому +5

      Especially when the fwd started in fresh unpacked snow.

  • @45eno
    @45eno 2 роки тому +7

    AWD on stock all seasons vs FWD on dedicated winter tires.
    Yes I have tested that scenario for myself to see if I was putting too much emphasis on winter tires. It wasn’t a perfect apples to apples comparison but I tested the 2008 Sienna fwd with blizzaks WS90 vs Subaru 2019 AwD on stock all season. My Sienna was only slightly slower off the start than Subaru. Braking my Sienna was night/day better.
    For 99% of the time on paved snowy roads I would and do pick FWD with blizzaks over any awd/4x4 with all season tires.
    As long as I can get going with FWD then I prefer the at speed benefits of superior winter tires with less chance of spin out and FAR better braking performance. I’m not picking my winter vehicle based solely off off the line acceleration. Stopping and turning take priority.
    AWD with blizzaks is my best option but still have no issue leaving it at home for the extra people space of my van. It’s what I did yesterday cause I needed the entire space of the van. Had no concerns with taking the fwd van out with great tires.

    • @DejaView
      @DejaView 2 роки тому

      Have a 2009 Sienna FWD, with Toyo "Celsius" tires (Canadian approved winter tire) Amazing traction with a real winter tire & yes steering & stopping are much improved whereas AWD, in itself, isn't much help with those aspects.

    • @Livewild779
      @Livewild779 Рік тому

      What do you think of a fwd 2015 crv. I really want this car but I live in New England. I feel like I might regret this purchase.

    • @45eno
      @45eno Рік тому +2

      @@Livewild779 I can tell you for certain when I was shopping for a used SUV (RAV4 v6) about 4yrs ago I would have had zero issue buying a FWD if I found a deal. If it was low miles, well kept at a great price I would have bought a fwd without hesitation. I knew I would have a dedicated set of winter wheels anyway for it. I ended up with an AWD version which does give me faster acceleration from a wet road stop and some added climbing ability in light mud, dirt and snow conditions. But I do gain some added expenses like rear differential oil change service and any failure of a tire when they are partially worn down will likely result in 4 new tires vs replacing just one due to the recommendation to keep tires within 2/32 tread difference because of the awd powertrain.
      I would focus on winter tires and rims for snow capability first and awd focus after the tires. Don’t buy awd as a replacement to proper tires. Or you will simply be less equipped for winter with more maintenance with a all season equipped awd.
      I went from a Subaru Outback to a family van ( Sienna fwd ) and moved my blizzaks over to the van and wondered if I would regret dropping the awd. First trip to the mountains in snow with good blizzaks confirmed to me that as long as I’m not trying to do deep snow or heavy off road good tires on fwd does great.
      Last if you have a need to climb dirt, mud or snowy driveways then AWD will be even more worthwhile WITH winter tires.

    • @Livewild779
      @Livewild779 Рік тому +1

      @@45eno thanks, I’ve always drove AWD but couldn’t remember how FWD in the snow. The last time I drove FWD was like 15 years ago. I really love the AWD never worry about getting stuck. This car is very low mileage from the south, the right trim level, color. Only thing turned me off was FWD. Seems all you need is really good snow tires.

  • @nathanb780
    @nathanb780 Рік тому +4

    Just traded my Camry in for a new Mazda cx-5. First time having AWD and loving it. Good video. Thanks

    • @vj5225
      @vj5225 День тому

      AWD Camry's are good reliable choices too. Not sure of Mazda's longevity but they are nice cars too.

    • @gamingwitharlen2267
      @gamingwitharlen2267 День тому +2

      @@vj5225 The Cx-5 is an extremely reliable car, on par with Toyota's cars.

  • @bucknut2000
    @bucknut2000 2 роки тому +16

    Wish they did front wheel with winter tires vs 4wd . At one point at had a bmw330xi , my moms, my dads explorer , and my civic si with winter tires . From my experience in a metro area . Hands down I’d take the civic or anything g with winter tires . The explore and bmw were better from a stop in thick snow above like 4 or 5 inches that’s fresh . But when it came to stopping , turning , pure speed on the hwy , the civic blew them away . Last night in Detroit and Toledo, Ohio I still went 65 and the car loved it .

    • @Guy_de_Loimbard
      @Guy_de_Loimbard 2 роки тому +5

      I have the best of both worlds -- AWD with winter tires. Just yesterday I was on a 4-lane highway that hadn't been cleared off yet. Everyone was puttering along in the semi-cleared right lane while I'm bolting past them at 50-some MPH in the unplowed left lane. A few people honked at me like I was an idiot, but I was still on more sure footing than 95% of them since nobody uses winter tires around here.
      When I did the same a few years ago, a cop swung out of the right lane and started to chase me down (even though I was still under the speed limit so I'm not sure what his issue was). He gave up after about 5 seconds because he knew he was never going to catch me.

    • @chriscon8463
      @chriscon8463 2 роки тому +1

      Yup! I’d take my wife’s Subaru equipped with studded snow tires over my Jeep Wrangler with all-season tires any day, unless the snow is over a foot deep. Her car accelerates, turns, and stops better with the snow tires on. With truly deep snow, the Jeep does better getting through, though. That said, if I had snow tires on the Jeep, it’d be just as good.

    • @jeffk464
      @jeffk464 2 роки тому +2

      @@Guy_de_Loimbard Don't let all the gizmos make you overconfident.

    • @Guy_de_Loimbard
      @Guy_de_Loimbard 2 роки тому

      @@jeffk464 For the last 18 years I've spent many of my winter weekends racing on frozen lakes. I know perfectly well what my cars are capable of in limited traction conditions and what they're not.

    • @iffykidmn8170
      @iffykidmn8170 2 роки тому

      @@Guy_de_Loimbard driving to fast for conditions is actually a ticket able offense and is up to the police and judge to determine.😉

  • @leonardsmith4202
    @leonardsmith4202 2 роки тому +2

    I live in north central MIchigan, and I have a Toyota Avalon. Just put Nokian WR-G4 all weather tires on it and it's amazing. Obviously can't handle deep snow, but anything up to 6 inches or so it goes like crazy. And the tires are quiet and smooth on dry pavement.

  • @paultice610
    @paultice610 2 роки тому +3

    That is crazy. I used to have a 98 Camry and it was a beast in the snow. It would take off like a rocket ship. Miss that car.

  • @Wigglythegreat2
    @Wigglythegreat2 Рік тому +1

    I have a new Mazda Cx30 and put some Bridgestone Blizzaks on because I don't love the Turanza tires that came with it on the snow.

  • @gino2033
    @gino2033 2 роки тому +19

    This was more of an IQ test them all wheel drive vs front wheel... perhaps a better starting line for both autos.

    • @jonathans4503
      @jonathans4503 2 роки тому +2

      Also disabling traction control helps a lot in situation like these in fwd cars

  • @bradleymeyer9775
    @bradleymeyer9775 2 роки тому +9

    I wish my 2015 Camry was AWD, for the added assistance in certain situations. Driving in the road with new all season tires, it’s decent though overall.

    • @45eno
      @45eno 2 роки тому

      My 2011 Camry with General Altimax Arctic studded was one of the most planted secure cars I have driven in the snow. Sold it to a friend who was more of a 4x4 believer over good tires. He now has a dedicated set of winters for his highlander after driving his equipped Camry.

  • @jonnyboy6359
    @jonnyboy6359 2 роки тому +2

    Andree did you have traction control on or off on the drag race? It looked like it was robbing power from the wheel to prevent slip.

  • @dwnrange7812
    @dwnrange7812 Рік тому +11

    That Mazda also has a far more advanced AWD system than most others, so even more of an unfair advantage in this case

    • @brytonmunro5270
      @brytonmunro5270 11 місяців тому +7

      People DO NOT realize how good Mazda’s awd system is. I love it in the snow. It’s very predictable and incredibly well composed.

    • @SBM200612
      @SBM200612 7 днів тому +1

      Yes, sure. Much better than Audi, Mercedes, or Acura.

  • @vcc1534
    @vcc1534 2 роки тому +2

    I got stuck going up the last hill to my local ski hill in my Mazda Protege 5 so I flipped it around and made it up the hill in reverse! Sometimes you just have to improvise!

  • @aahmd29
    @aahmd29 Рік тому +2

    Wow that Mazda 3 did so good!

  • @michaelm5329
    @michaelm5329 2 роки тому +3

    Having lived in Colorado for the majority of my life (since I was 3 - early 1970's), I have owned RWD and FWD cars until February 2015. In my opinion AWD is a luxury if living in the city including Boulder and Denver Metro area. That said since 2015, my daily driver hasn't been and will never be 2WD ever again - 2 different AWD sedans so far since 2015.

  • @jamesf7222
    @jamesf7222 Рік тому +3

    I left Subaru after a decade and bought a Mazda3 Turbo AWD. Seeing this I feel better about the AWD in the Mazda since we don't usually get a lot of snow in the Mid-Atlantic. I still think I may get a set of Blizzaks and steel rims for it as inexpensive insurance.

    • @bizmonkey007
      @bizmonkey007 Рік тому

      Why did you leave Subaru? We’re debating between getting a Crosstrek or a Mazda CX-30 or 3. I’m biased in favor of the Mazda but the Crosstrek is stupidly popular where I’m from.

    • @jamesf7222
      @jamesf7222 Рік тому

      @@bizmonkey007 I own two Subarus currently, a 17 Outback and a 16 Forester. Both of them had their head gaskets go at 90k miles. The other issue was ride quality. I wanted an AWD sedan with more than 225hp. That's the Legacy Turbo or the 3 Turbo and the ride between the two is night and day. That said, if I REALLY had to contend with snowy winters, the Subaru is an obvious choice. The two I own are like mountain goats in bad weather.

  • @TheNewenglandboys
    @TheNewenglandboys 2 роки тому +1

    BUT did Andre have the traction control off? And how about the same test with snow tires on the Camry?

  • @markschommer7407
    @markschommer7407 2 роки тому +4

    Something I dont see mentioned here is tire width. New vehicles have wider tires than older ones did. Wider tires tend to want to ride on top of the snow then dig in. I've driven a few GM A-bodies in snow and those had narrower tires and those were great in snow. With ordinary all-season tires.

    • @DigitalHaze65536
      @DigitalHaze65536 2 роки тому

      I'm glad my 2021 4Runner Limited came with 245 width tires. That is kinda narrow for the 4800+ pound weight of the vehicle, which is great for snow covered roads. Put some snow rated tires on it and you are ready to go and stop!

    • @iffykidmn8170
      @iffykidmn8170 2 роки тому +1

      @@DigitalHaze65536 2000 Limited came with 265s and with 265 Blizzaks its almost unstoppable unless I want to stop.😉

  • @Yogangster1995
    @Yogangster1995 2 роки тому +7

    My camry with some continentals did decent in the snow, but then again I would deactivate traction control and I have the V6. But nothing beats putting on my Blizzaks and watch the car eat up the snow. Winter tires really are a game changer 🙌

  • @richardjacobs7632
    @richardjacobs7632 2 роки тому +1

    Do you have snow tires? That makes a big difference too! We are in the Mid Atlantic we don’t usually need snow tread unless we are medical or first responders

  • @stromghouls
    @stromghouls Рік тому +1

    i can garantee you the mazda temperature indicator is very precise. i live in northern canada and i have a 2021 turbo mazda 3. it was -35 celcius this morning where i live and my mazda 3 started easily with no aid and not plugged. record low in my city is -49 celcius in 2016. at about 1 hour drive from my town the record is -51 celcius in 2014. i have owned 4 mazdas and they all perform very well in these extreme climates.

  • @huliohavana9649
    @huliohavana9649 Рік тому

    I remember when Andrae came on board, over a Decade or so ago. About the time I recognized TFL and the Ike gauntlet. This is what it looks like when people work hard toward the American dream. Good on you for working your way up. You did what few Americas are willing to do!!! And learned English.

  • @sailordave1000
    @sailordave1000 2 роки тому +4

    A compact class crossover with same engine but different drive system would be a good comparison. For example, the Kona base engine is available in FWD & AWD

  • @GothRocker7
    @GothRocker7 2 роки тому +11

    The Toyota Camry actually does offer all wheel drive, would like to see the all wheel drive Camry in this deep snow, The Mazda 3 with all wheel drive did great. Would also like to see the new Mitsubishi Outlander in this deep snow. The Outlander has S-AWC and I think Mitsubishi has one of the best All Wheel Drive systems from what I have seen and read.

  • @KaiPonte
    @KaiPonte 2 роки тому +3

    drove in the snow once about a decade ago. it was not bad but I was in my two-wheel-drive Avalanche and got stuck in a ditch that had iced over. Fortunately, I had a towel and was able to get it under the tires enough to get some traction. I can't imagine having snow every year. (Currently 84 degrees and sunny here.)

    • @William971
      @William971 Рік тому

      There's nothing more fun to do in a car then fish tailing fresh powdered streets. Don't let one bad experience get you down, it's pretty on a winter day!

    • @DroneStrike1776
      @DroneStrike1776 11 місяців тому +1

      When you get one of those surprised snow storms, now that's a nightmare to drive on. On i-95 with my BMW e90 xDrive, it took my 2.5 hours to get home, compared to 55 minutes when it's not snowing. Without snow tires, the car was swerving side to side when it would it drifted out onto fresh snow, it was dark and there was so many cars on the road that night which made it terrifying when everyone was breaking traction. There was an ahole with a Subaru who drove like an arrogant d*ck. Makes me hate Subaru drivers. It's not about how fast you can go, it's about stopping, that's what Subaru driver don't understand. I never got stuck in my 3 series AWD or my Mazda3 hatch awd. So moving forward isn't my concern, it's the braking and black ice that scares me. Black ice is terrifying. You get on what looks to be clean pavement but it's actually ice. I turned off a ramp and on the curve, going nice and slow, front wheel slide on black ice mid corner. I was so close to smacking the guardrails.

    • @KaiPonte
      @KaiPonte 11 місяців тому

      @@DroneStrike1776 Yeah, no thanks. I'll stay with my comfortable 65 degrees.

  • @hometowndiy9109
    @hometowndiy9109 2 роки тому +10

    Love this test for its real world effect. I hate when test are done on a skating rink. Those road conditions were real world for New England and deep snow has different properties to it. It adds drag especially to a non AWD vehicle. I would love to see this done with multiple styles snows on the Camry and all seasons on the Mazda.

  • @johnvargas7845
    @johnvargas7845 2 роки тому +4

    I would be nice to see a comparison between AWD: Altima - Camry - Mazda 3, in different situations, all season tires.

    • @jeffk464
      @jeffk464 2 роки тому +1

      Subaru's symmetrical all wheel drive will work the best. The other systems all take a beat to detect wheel slip and then engage the rear axle.

    • @eucmike
      @eucmike 19 днів тому

      ​@jeffk464 not true, mazdas all wheel drive is engaged all the time.. very good system.. subaru you might blow a head gasket 😂

  • @user-bv7jc
    @user-bv7jc Рік тому +1

    being stuck in the snow is one of the most helpless feelings I've ever felt in my entire life

  • @rorox9
    @rorox9 2 роки тому +1

    I had zero issues in my 2017 Chevy Malibu while being stationed at fort drum, NY and while driving with traction control turned off with all season tires. Might I add that I never got stuck while being stationed there for 5 years between the years of 2015 to 2020

    • @markschommer7407
      @markschommer7407 2 роки тому +1

      I've never used snow tires and I live in Northeast Wisconsin. All season radials have worked well for me.

  • @ChunkyyHD
    @ChunkyyHD Рік тому +3

    Should have tried (carefully) driving backwards up the hill with the FWD. It shifts a lot more weight onto the drive wheels and can make hill climbing performance a lot better.

  • @pcdude2394
    @pcdude2394 Рік тому

    I remember when I was dating my wife 16 years ago. Took her to Lake Tahoe in my 4Runner and we hit a snow storm. Caltrans set up a snow chain checkpoint. As I was driving, there a lot of people lookin for a parking space on the shoulder to put on snow chain out in the snow storm when we strolled along in a toasty 4x4 4Runner. She ended up buying an AWD and never looked back on getting a 2WD ever again.

  • @gamebuster800
    @gamebuster800 2 роки тому +1

    There is a Mazda 3 AWD? They don't sell it in my country!

  • @shibmasterkman3176
    @shibmasterkman3176 2 роки тому +4

    I want a Mazda like that now so bad. Great video.

  • @morkmckerr
    @morkmckerr Рік тому

    no use of L4/L3/2 (whichever is available) to get through snow in a front wheel car?

  • @Cruzan9
    @Cruzan9 Рік тому

    Did it help that the Mazda also had a turbo engine or is it really just the AWD vs FWD?

  • @reidsgarage1100
    @reidsgarage1100 2 роки тому +11

    Would love to see the awd Camry tested!

  • @cjaldrich1
    @cjaldrich1 2 роки тому +1

    How steep was that hill?? I only ever had FWD or RWD when I lived in Colorado and don’t remember having that much trouble.

  • @Jeddin
    @Jeddin 2 роки тому +1

    To everyone saying snow fires would have made both capable. Yes. Of course. But unfortunately almost everyone doesn’t switch out their tires except for the car enthusiast who follow this channel. Heck most of my coworkers still use their summer fires all winter long let alone all seasons. So having awd vs fwd at least provides some safety benefit for people who otherwise wouldn’t switch out their tires anyway even if they should

  • @J.Young808
    @J.Young808 2 роки тому

    My 1992 Acura Integra was very stable and didn’t get stuck in the snowy winters in Yakima, WA.

  • @ManuelRodriguez001
    @ManuelRodriguez001 2 роки тому +36

    That was really fun! 😂 I think this was a really good real world comparison. That was my exact experience living in CO. I went from a Nissan versa to a Subaru Impreza and I could pretty much go anywhere in the winter. I still remember getting stuck in the a basin parking lot every weekend. That poor versa. Great car otherwise! Cheers and happy holidays 🎄🕎

  • @0159ralph
    @0159ralph Рік тому

    I have a Chysler 300s awd with Yokohama all season tires mounted. That's one of the best awd vehicles to boot. Works great in the northern mountains of N.M..

  • @dcampean
    @dcampean Місяць тому

    What year is the Camry and what AWD system does it have Hybrid or Mechanic?

  • @anthonywarren3656
    @anthonywarren3656 Рік тому

    Roman's near evil villain laugh at about the 14:35 mark while Andre is stuck really makes the video for me.

  • @zachlafond2652
    @zachlafond2652 2 роки тому +5

    Another test would be the awd on all seasons and a front wheel drive on dedicated snow tires.

    • @MikeYurbasovich
      @MikeYurbasovich 2 роки тому +3

      I agree. I outdrive awd subarus with all season tires in my accord with snow tires.

    • @DejaView
      @DejaView 2 роки тому

      @@MikeYurbasovich Yes, I have FWD Toyota Sienna currently with Toyo "Celsius" tires (Canadian approved winter tire) & can out do the 4 wheelers with poor choice of tires in most situations. Unless you're dealing with more ice than actual snow, these tires really grab & go! You wouldn't think anything could hold in snow like that...

    • @MikeYurbasovich
      @MikeYurbasovich 2 роки тому

      @@DejaView I bought those for my girlfriends Honda accord, they are really pretty decent for tires you can drive in the summer, too. The best tires I have found are Nokian Hakkapellita. They have some grit molded into the tire that feel as though you're driving dry pavement on ice. I drove on black ice to work one day, took a couple steps out of my car and busted my head on the ice. Then everyone who came to work was complaining of how slippery it was. It was at that point I realized that I drove normally on this same ice without realizing it. Those tires aren't good with deep slush though. My viking contacts are decent all around winter tires.

  • @325xitgrocgetter
    @325xitgrocgetter 2 роки тому +3

    TIres! With winter tires, I find I can get more traction on a front drive car versus an all wheel drive car with all seasons....I think a test with a front drive with winter tires and a comparable in size and weight all wheel drive car with all seasons would be interesting.

  • @mcsqueegee81
    @mcsqueegee81 2 роки тому +2

    want to see the Mazda vs a subaru wrx or sti. see how well the 2 awd do

  • @remyd8767
    @remyd8767 2 роки тому

    What about on icy roads, not thick snow? Does the AWD make a noticeable difference

  • @peterward1698
    @peterward1698 Рік тому

    Try with snow tires would be interesting. Funny you think -6f is cold. Here in the Canadian prairies -40f is not unheard of, the challenge then is a) start the car and b) get the car to move. You get flat spots on the tires that stay flat for the first mile or so. Oil is like sludge unless you plug in a block heater. For those in Florida that is an electric heating element that is inside the engine block to warm up the oil. ...

  • @Buc_Stops_Here
    @Buc_Stops_Here 11 місяців тому +1

    I live on a 650 foot mountain and plowing it is a luxury we don't always get quickly. When I moved here I owned a FWD 2006 Saab 9-3 and a 2003 FWD Honda Accord. Neither car even with snow tires could get up the mountain - I would get warning failures in both cars and they would get stuck. I learned to wait until an uphill approach was plowed and follow the truck up the mountain. I have since replaced both cars with a 2013 Subaru Legacy and a 2018 Buick Envision (I keep cars for at least 10 years and about 150,000 to 200,000 miles). Even with All Weather Tires as rated by Canada, no problems getting home now even with snow on the ground. The big question now is will a hybrid car make it up the mountain with AWD? We know AWD EVs cannot do it.

    • @slumy8195
      @slumy8195 2 місяці тому +1

      dont bother going ev. my f250 from '99 destroys tesla's in uphill mountains. Always end up in my rear views lol those cars got no torque to maintain the same as a gas car.

    • @Buc_Stops_Here
      @Buc_Stops_Here 2 місяці тому

      @@slumy8195 I have an answer soon after I wrote that. My neighbor bought an AWD Tesla 3. He got stuck climbing the mountain in 8 inches of snow. Answers my question - you are right, they don't do so well. Thanks!

  • @Guy_de_Loimbard
    @Guy_de_Loimbard 2 роки тому +1

    As someone who lives in the Snow Belt and having experience with all types of driveline configurations with all types of tires, I can say straight away without even watching the video, the difference between FWD an AWD on low-traction surfaces is night and day; and I'll never go without at least one AWD vehicle for as long as I live this far north. I can even attest that AWD with all-seasons will beat out an equivalent FWD with winter tires for straight-line acceleration. That said, I'd still much rather have winter tires on any 2WD than all-seasons on an AWD as the former will still have far superior braking and turning grip.

  • @tyrereviews
    @tyrereviews 2 роки тому +2

    Keep the tire content coming guys

  • @bryantday1703
    @bryantday1703 Рік тому +1

    I used to have a 2012 Toyota Camry V6 fwd and she did amazing in the snow in New Hampshire. It’s all on how you drive too and also traction control sucks in the snow it’s better to have it turned off.

  • @SteveNoblin
    @SteveNoblin Рік тому

    Stack a bunch of firewood on the front and you got this!I use to do this with my truck back in the day but I would put the firewood in the back at the tailgate

  • @damarri8386
    @damarri8386 2 роки тому +1

    The Mazda looked great doing it!

  • @truelee8973
    @truelee8973 2 роки тому

    Fwd with winter tires feels like a awd but using all season is also good to and down fall to can't get out of tall snow. Yall should do a corner turning it makes a big difference to. My v6 accord I have so much confidence on my winter tires. It gets up like a champ.

  • @slocavky
    @slocavky 2 роки тому

    Did you turn the traction control off the on the Camry?

  • @franckjoseph4806
    @franckjoseph4806 Рік тому

    I have 2000 Camry fwd and I live in Minnesota. My car is fine on snow with all seasons tires, and the good thing is the 2000 Camry is higher than the recent model. The recent one is too low. It depends on how you drive on snow and the car weight also.

  • @rodman50
    @rodman50 Рік тому

    Why was the Camry started out with the driver side being in untracked snow?

  • @DanielDaniel1
    @DanielDaniel1 Рік тому

    What kind of jacket is the blue one?

  • @Lovebk98
    @Lovebk98 2 роки тому +1

    That Mazda is good looking.

  • @michaelk487
    @michaelk487 2 роки тому +1

    Great video as usual Merry Christmas Happy New Year

  • @tonylatimer3680
    @tonylatimer3680 День тому

    I would like to know about the 2010 Acura RL against your Mazda and Toyota since my Acura is a 2010 all-wheel drive I want to compare them to can you make that happen please old against new

  • @eli0151
    @eli0151 5 місяців тому

    I have the opportunity to buy a used Mazda CX 5 Fwd for a great deal. I live in the Midwest, on a steep hill and driveway, and always have issues in ice/snow with my compact fwd car. Should I forgo and get a new AWD vehicle instead? Any suggestions would be appreciated!

  • @lordraiden5398
    @lordraiden5398 2 роки тому

    I moved to Michigan in 1995 from California. I had a 94' Honda Civic Dx and a 89' Honda CRX-Si. In 02' I traded the CRX-Si for a Subaru WRX. The WRX was so much better in the snow. So much so I actually would go have fun in empty parking lots doing donuts and drifting in the snow. Would never do that in the Honda's. I now have a 09' Forester X that is lowered on a racing suspension and my winter wheels have all season tires. Even 3 inches lower than stock the Forester has no problems in the snow. I would never go back to front wheel drive.

  • @andreygareev1394
    @andreygareev1394 Рік тому

    i am shopping for a new car, wanted something small and nimble but suitable for winter state, and decided to get mazda3 turbo. and friends/coworkers/acquintances were asking why i dont consider civic type R or golf gti. from now on i will be showing this video as an answer))

  • @CM-xb6rb
    @CM-xb6rb 2 роки тому +2

    Both of those cars have brand new all-season tires. Now imagine the test with tires with 10k to 30k miles on them and being worn.

  • @dadgarage7966
    @dadgarage7966 2 роки тому

    TFL is awesome. Non-stop dad-friendly content.

  • @paranromallover4543
    @paranromallover4543 Рік тому

    My new car has awd. But i survived with an old beater car with fwd for many years because i couldn't afford an awd car until know. I never managed to get myself stuck other then spinning the tires a bit. But i made it out each time. It's really about having some decent tires and knowing how to drive.

  • @agpawpaw5912
    @agpawpaw5912 2 роки тому +1

    We would like to see comparison fwd with snow tires vs awd with all season

    • @agpawpaw5912
      @agpawpaw5912 2 роки тому

      Actually they have that comparison already

  • @LlyleHunter
    @LlyleHunter 2 роки тому +1

    All wheel drive is a definite advantage during acceleration and in handling in snow and wet roads however it doesn’t have much impact on braking.

    • @jeffk464
      @jeffk464 2 роки тому +2

      That's what seems to cause all the crashes. People follow too close in slippery conditions and when they need to stop they can't at least until they hit the car in front of them.

  • @anthonydigiorgio9240
    @anthonydigiorgio9240 Рік тому +1

    Mazda AWD is very underrated

  • @suyambuvigneshwaran9488
    @suyambuvigneshwaran9488 2 роки тому

    Good one... What about awd vs e-awd like RAV4 hybrid or prime

  • @joezuerlein
    @joezuerlein 2 роки тому

    I own two AWD Chevy Astros I will say that tires do make a difference I have all season mud snow tires year round the all season tires did slip on plowed roads plus I would like to mention I put a 4 ton floor jack in the back of one of my vans this makes a big difference also ,sand bags help for AWD too,anyway I sure get a kick from your tests very helpful,happy new year to both you and your family

  • @Seanreagan
    @Seanreagan 2 роки тому

    I don't want to get rid of either my Charger or Durango, but I think my Durango might need to make way for a new AWD car. Best suggestion for a kind of budget 4WD or AWD car/suv?

    • @andyyu5973
      @andyyu5973 Рік тому

      I think they actually make awd challengers

  • @snowmankace7769
    @snowmankace7769 2 роки тому

    Watching Roman push that camry was the best!! Way to go boss

  • @robertfolk4583
    @robertfolk4583 2 роки тому

    I wonder what some All-Weather tires on both would do in that snow? with the snow peak rated.

  • @agodschild7249
    @agodschild7249 2 роки тому

    I have an 2006 real wheel staggered S430 Mercedes with deep dish low profile rims and I rode in deep snow ,ice storms and I had no problem because I used Continental DWS. I had other tires and would get stuck in an inch of snow with my other tires.

  • @jonkrispeterson6678
    @jonkrispeterson6678 2 роки тому

    Great job with product placement with Taste of Chicago! Just sent some pizza and Italian beef sandwiches to someone for Christmas, and they loved it. Plus, you don’t have to risk your life going to .Chicago.

  • @lisahagen2338
    @lisahagen2338 10 місяців тому

    You two are so funny! I’m new to AWD & live in Minnesota. I’ve heard there’s a difference with how they handle driving on snow packed roads.

  • @taylorj959a
    @taylorj959a 2 роки тому

    I had a prior Gen Camry XLE 4-cyl with Michelin all-weather and it was promisingly good in the snow.

  • @MiKoRoGoD
    @MiKoRoGoD Рік тому

    Did you guys do a RWD vs video on snow tires?

  • @shanesnyder7359
    @shanesnyder7359 2 роки тому +8

    Great fun! I'd like to see how an AWD Camry compares to the AWD CX-30.

    • @markcoopers1930
      @markcoopers1930 2 роки тому +1

      Well the cx-30 is lifted, but the Mazda3 comes in a sedan and AWD like the similarly sized Corolla for a direct comparison (also with AWD soon)

  • @Silverback_GMT410
    @Silverback_GMT410 2 роки тому +3

    It’s crazy how 4WD drastically changed things.

  • @Davran2742
    @Davran2742 2 роки тому

    Of course an awd is better in a drag race from stopped in slippery conditions with similar tires, though too many drivers think they're invincible with awd/4wd.
    A fwd with winter tires can do quite well in the snow; I've used them for decades in Canada.

  • @mrderek800
    @mrderek800 Рік тому

    I think the end of the video summed up the comparison pretty accurately in winter weather. LOL!