@@primary2630 real people can also be befuddled by having had zero clue someone they regularly fight was blind the whole time. Not that it happens often (as it’s usually a little more obvious irl).
Why would Fisk know? Why would anyone know? It’s not in DD’s interest for anyone to know if only because it would give away his secret identity. Matt Murdock is already a prominent crime fighting attorney who occasionally takes on the Kingpin as part of his day job. It’s best for him to hide in plain sight.
@@naamadossantossilva4736 Nah, you just have to make every crime legal against prisoners so that they know people will hurt them when they do crime and so they stop doing crime to make it so people won't hurt them for doing it.
A mental hospital is not that different from a prison. Maybe that's the approach real prisons should have. Hear me out, they are knowingly hurting themselves in the sense they know what they might get into prison for what they do, so one might make a case out of that.
He wasn't good at climbing ladders, so he became the boss to hire and make other people climb ladders for him. Perfectly reasonable and even somewhat inspiring.
I remember an old Doug episode like this once. Rich asshole tries telling Doug his "pulling himself up by the bootstraps" story and ended with "wait a minute, I'm rich I can pay other people to do that stuff for me"
It’s even better considering in the actual series, Fisk killed his father immediately after he became the Kingpin as revenge, as well as to keep his former identity a secret
Revenge and also to keep his name and any ties to his past a secret. So really, when the Kingpin starts telling you his backstory, that's actually a death-sentence he's indirectly giving you.
It wasn't even revenge, he respected him as criminal and did as exactly as his dad would (yeah he killed him to hide his previous identity), afterwards he wonders if his own son would plan to take revenge
Kingpin is truly one of the most inspiring fictional characters ever written. He was overweight as a kid, and was even caught by the police because he couldn't climb up a ladder. But today he's the biggest mobster because of the incident.
TBH its far more logical as opposed to just fighting each other forever under the pretext that the bad guy is bad because he's a bad guy. stopping to see why the hell everyones doing what they're doing is a sensible idea, even if it doesn't work out.
I think that’s more Spidey-esque approach to the situation than just beating the shit out of him. It’s humorous the way it plays out but this is something Spidey would do. Also, in the Ultimate Spider-Man comics Spider-Man talks to Kingpin while Kingpin is eating at a restaurant. At least, I think that’s what happened.
I love that despite appearances, Kingpin really is basically pure muscle. And anyone who heard him say that without seeing him straight body someone wouldn't believe him. It's what makes the entire conversation so believable
Yea you look at strong men types(like, deadlift half a ton types), they're not looking like Arnold from his body builder days, they're just fuckin HUGE.
@@admech590 Comic book characters are usually stronger than what a human should, even without superhuman abilities Like the times batman traded blows with people he really shouldn't
Even funnier is that Spidey arguably just outted Daredevil to attempt to win an argument. "Huh. I wonder how many blind people live and work in Hell's Kitchen...."
I can just imagine Spider hobbling over to Daredevil and asking him if he knew Kingpin was fat, and Daredevil just being absolutely shocked over the fact it wasn't, in fact, a towering mass of chiseled muscle that he traded smacks with every other wednesday.
If he does this every other Wednesday, I imagine most of them end with Kingpin going: "Can we wrap this up, Daredevil? I got scrapbooking tomorrow morning."
Now I can't help but wonder if that part of his backstory was a visual metaphor for how he started at the bottom of the ladder, but due to his current position, could not climb up.
Yeah, OG Kingpin was actually super strong. And considering plot determines a lot of circumstances, even in the 70s ppl complained how the heel can Spidey survive punches from the Hulk one comic and get pimp slapped by Kingpin another comic.
He trained himself in the art of Sumo to use his weight to his advantage and if you’ve seen a Sumo Wrestler fight that’s like fighting a bear in human form. Just like Kingpin they look fat but a lot of that is well trained muscle.
@@Broomer52 most sumos are like that but they also use fat to add to the mass. So really its a scary combo of muscle mass and fat that makes them who they are.
Kingpin reconciling with his father is pretty heart-warming, especially since we all know parents find it really hard to admit what they do their kids is wrong in any capacity.
I love the fact that him being pure muscle isn't a joke. He actually isn't fat as the Kingpin, that isn't made up to add to the video. He literally is so muscular that people _think_ he's fat. All that muscle is enough to let him actually overpower superheroes with super strength
He actually trained in the art of Sumo. He was a fat kid so he learned martial arts from fat martial artists with some Judo on the side for good measure. Don’t underestimate Sumo Wrestlers because of how they look that is also well trained muscle. Fisk could power slam you through the fucking floor if he wanted to.
For those unaware: this joke is from a community post made by fellow UA-camr Jehtt (funny guy whose content is similar to this but more Sonic-themed) In the post, he said that he voices all male characters in his videos, and this comment format has become something of an inside joke in his video’s comment sections. Clearly some of that leaked over here.
“It’s not always about the money, Schpida-Man… it’s about the Mets, baby! Love the Mets, alright, baby, let’s go, get a home run, baby, love the Mets, let’s go Mets.” -Kingpin
In the actual episode he says that it's the time spent in prison that made him a criminal and made him learn the skill necessary to build his empire. Which is oddly realistic for a comic book villain
What I love about this is the dialogue of him being all muscle was one of the few moments in the Spider-Man cartoon that I remember. He's grabbing Peter in a bear-hug, and just says something along the lines of "Let me show you what 300lbs of muscle can do!"
A friend of mine got inspired by it - since he was also a local round boy. While he never dropped the weight and looks round, he can throw a grown man without issues.
@@NGMK You don't have to be a lean, muscular, titan-like adonis to be strong. Good on him for being inspired by it and getting through life. I know all too well what being the fat kid can be like in school...
@@BYERE Yea you look at top-tier strong men(not bodybuilders, but strong men), a lot of them don't look far off from kingpin. Or, for that matter, Uncle Iroh from Avatar.
@benjaminmorris4962fat isn't fuel for muscle. Carbs are, and you build muscle from protein. Now ok, to be more precise, fat is fuel for muscle in aerobic work, (just check how much fats marathon runners eat, and they burn that much), but strength is definately in anaerobic dimension. But it's just more efficient in most cases to constantly gain weight for ultraheavyweight powerlifter or a strongman, not waistiing time for cutting, when you can't progress strength-wise.
@@nicolasgraves9789 Well one of those things is basically magic and the other is rooted in a physiological concept that lots of people are familiar with. Just kind of a weird detail to include about a guy who's not supposed to have any super powers. Then again it would make sense if he has a complex about being fat.
The funny thing is a lot of power lifters look fat but are actually a lot more muscled than their appearance suggests. Same is true for sumo wrestlers (though in that case there's a lot of fat too.)
Kingpin tried to follow his father's footsteps but failed, because of his WEIGHT. After his time in prison, he had acquired the skills to begin building his WEIGHT. Kingpin became crime lord of New York City, because of his, WEIGHT.
Who would have thought that Kingpin failing at a Snake Eater moment due to his weight would lead him down a career path of a business man. What a thrill!
I just love how Fisk elaborates that it wasn't how his father testified against him in court or the years he spent in prison is what made him Kingpin. He just literally can't pull himself up a ladder, frustrating Spider-Man to no end.
*Most compelling Origin Stories.* Batman: "My parents were murdered, therefore I became a crimefighter seeking Justice for all." Iron Man: "I was a weapons manufacturer but after seeing the tragic effects of war, I stopped being the problem and became the solution." Spider Man: "When earning my powers, I was selfish at first with them, but after my uncle died, I decided to use my powers for the good of all mankind." Kingpin: "I couldn't make it up the fuckin' ladder."
Fun fact - that genuinely IS muscle. The reference to all of Kingpin's 'fat' being muscle in this skit is 100% factual according to the source material. The guy works out and eats well. If not for being a mobster monster he'd be an inspiring take on how we can improve ourselves with diet and exercise - though he might be going a bit too far given just how bulky all that muscle is.
The guy is just some mob leader, yet he has strength that can rival plenty of super-powered folks. I'm pretty sure him being made up of almost entirely muscle is true.
The best part is that in the original 90's cartoon, Kingpin actually has his own father executed simply because he considered him a loose end, same as what his father did to him in his backstory. It wasn't even spite, but simply a matter of eliminating all connections to his past. he didn't harbor any ill intent despite the tragedy of his own parent abandoning him and even grew to become powerful from it.
I love how Kingpin is so ready to share his life story with Spider Man in such a friendly way, despite the situation he's in. "Tell me where I'm losing you", is just so casual it makes me wonder if Kingpin is going to offer Spider Man a cup of coffee next.
Kingpin saying "Well I've never heard anything like this from Daredevil" feels like a comment on how the Daredevil series made Wilson Fisk a character with a tragic background that grew up to become the menacing leader of a major crime syndicate, whereas the cartoon explanation is more like "Oh, aren't you a chonky boi? Wait, how are you able to crush my spine without gasping from the exertion?!"
Kingpin's past, his father was always a criminal, but not a successful one. He dragged his son to the life of crime. When Fisk became the kingpin and reunited with his now old father. His father saw what his son became and finally accept him, but Kingpin tells him that his son cease to exist when he left him in prison. Kingpin ordered his men to kill him. His father was horrified and begged for mercy, but he was murdered for betraying his own son. Kingpin really wanted to show his father that he became what his father couldn't. His father would never be part of his son's criminal empire. Kingpin's son Richard went to jail and Kingpin used his father's lessons to sacrifice his son. His son went to prison. I remember at the end, Kingpin look at the picture of his family. He's all alone and all he has left now is his empire. He became worse than his father. He said how long he has to wait till his son exact his revenge. Kingpin now knows what awaits him at the end.
I LOVE 90s spiderman. It has such a special place in my heart. This is really funny because Fisk is such a ham in the orignal series, so I'm imagining him chewing the scenary during this whole bit. Just shouting from the far end of a big room.
There's a bit more to Kingpin's backstory than that. As a child, Wilson Fisk was bullied at school for being fat. He started working out to get stronger and stand up for himself. Fisk eventually teamed up with his former bullies to form a gang. He was recruited by crime boss Don Rigoletto as his bodyguard and eventually became his right hand man. But then, Fisk betrayed Rigoletto and killed him. He took over his organization and eventually became the most powerful crime boss in New York City. That's when everyone started calling him the Kingpin.
I find it very funny that "he looks fat but all that weight is actually pure muscle which makes him a physical powerhouse" is the excuse they use for both Kingpin and _Wario._
"Well I've never heard anything like this from Daredevil." "Yeah probably because he's blind." Even if Kingpin knew that it's such a good retort from Spiderman.
Might be the funniest one yet. When Kingpin explains why he became a criminal mastermind or when Spiderman told him he sucked I was in tears. The interaction between them is perfect. The script is funny but it's the voice acting and comedic timing that sells it.
Canonically only 2% of the Kingpins boy is fat, He is also Skilled in Judo and hapkido Also I love when a villian participates in healthy activities, like Scrapbooking.
@@massgunner4152 Better yet, he breaks Spider-Man's back and he becomes addicted to painkillers. Scarlet Spider takes over for a while only for Peter to come back later after battling his addiction.
Truly dissected the Kingpin in his entirety. Bloody hilarious thanks for this. Also when I saw the thumbnail I couldn't help but hear this kingpin's voice from the show. Roscoe Lee Browne was the BEST kingpin voice I've heard yet, though Michael Clarke Duncan was pretty cool too.
I always like to think that the villain's goons just stop and watch the bs unfold. (The bit at the end caught me off guard though.) Great video as always!
Oh man, this guy's videos never miss. They are always hilarious. Bite-sized, quick videos but they are so goddamn funny that they might as well be an hour long. The moment where Spider-Man just says to kingpin 'fuck you' is when I lost it. Like imagine a villain just giving this whole last monologue and the superheroes response is casually just: "fuck you". That's hilarious 😂
To give kingpin credit, his bulk is ferocious. Man is so strong he can 1v1 Spiderman and Dr. Doom, and not instantly die, AS A REGULAR GUY. NO POWERS OR NOTHING, JUST BULK
How can spiderman not understand Kingpin’s backstory? Not being able to climb a ladder is perfectly synchronous with running all crime in NYC. One of the best written villains ever. I think Solid JJ is just salty he can’t write great stories like Kingpin’s backstory
When he said "But he can do backflips" it sounded amazingly genuine.
the pure bewilderment in his voice was just perfect
It is genuine. Daredevil really can do backflips
best part is being blind doesnt really even stop you from being able to do backflips.. real blind people could do it
@@primary2630 real people can also be befuddled by having had zero clue someone they regularly fight was blind the whole time.
Not that it happens often (as it’s usually a little more obvious irl).
Spider man really just said skill issue
I love just the fact he acknowledges how daredevil is blind, and Fisk never knew
Most people assume it's a lie to hide his identity. Even when he was outed they just assumed Matthew Murdock lied and he could really see.
Why would Fisk know? Why would anyone know? It’s not in DD’s interest for anyone to know if only because it would give away his secret identity. Matt Murdock is already a prominent crime fighting attorney who occasionally takes on the Kingpin as part of his day job. It’s best for him to hide in plain sight.
Yeah. My boy willy never knew.
i swear I saw you on Ezpz’s r/boss fight video
One could say... he never *saw it coming*
Or, you know. Kingpin never *looked hard enough*
To be fair "I was a petty criminal, then I went to prison. Now I'm a way worse criminal." is a pretty believable story.
@@naamadossantossilva4736 I somehow think op intended the opposite message
@@naamadossantossilva4736 Nah, you just have to make every crime legal against prisoners so that they know people will hurt them when they do crime and so they stop doing crime to make it so people won't hurt them for doing it.
people in replies have never seen a research in restorative justice have they
A mental hospital is not that different from a prison. Maybe that's the approach real prisons should have.
Hear me out, they are knowingly hurting themselves in the sense they know what they might get into prison for what they do, so one might make a case out of that.
@@naamadossantossilva4736 Or just make the death penalty optional.
"At first I thought your name was Kingpin because you're shaped like a bowling ball" is 100% something Spider-Man would say
fr they should pay him for that killer line
Now that he mentions it, I’ve never seen a Kingpin iteration that isn’t shaped like a bowing pin
@@gianni206 Earth-63 Kingpin: allow me to introduce myself
@@gianni206 Giovanni!!!!!
As a kid I genuinely thought the same thing.
He wasn't good at climbing ladders, so he became the boss to hire and make other people climb ladders for him. Perfectly reasonable and even somewhat inspiring.
He walked so others could run
I remember an old Doug episode like this once. Rich asshole tries telling Doug his "pulling himself up by the bootstraps" story and ended with "wait a minute, I'm rich I can pay other people to do that stuff for me"
@@oz_jones it’s a very slow walk
Don't you see? He climbed the LADDER of the criminal underworld.
@@oz_jones More like he fell on his ass so others could run for him.
It’s even better considering in the actual series, Fisk killed his father immediately after he became the Kingpin as revenge, as well as to keep his former identity a secret
Didn't he use his son as a scapegoat in the same arc and muse on how he is keeping the cycle going? Or am I confusing two different episodes?
@@AgentofLADON it was the same arc. Don’t know if that happened in the same episode.
Revenge and also to keep his name and any ties to his past a secret.
So really, when the Kingpin starts telling you his backstory, that's actually a death-sentence he's indirectly giving you.
It wasn't even revenge, he respected him as criminal and did as exactly as his dad would (yeah he killed him to hide his previous identity), afterwards he wonders if his own son would plan to take revenge
@@ElKabong3345 Just watched a video about his origins, and yup ur right about the identity part. I’ll make an edit
Kingpin is truly one of the most inspiring fictional characters ever written. He was overweight as a kid, and was even caught by the police because he couldn't climb up a ladder. But today he's the biggest mobster because of the incident.
Biggest in more ways than one
@@joshuablair7028 you have to expand in all directions if you want to make it big
@@hmroid6884 so you're saying kingpin is a gas
Kingpin : If I can't climb the ladder up I'm going to climb the social ladder DOWN !
Dude got caught for being too fat and his solution was to get even bigger, total sigma.
The thought of them just causally stopping everything and having a conversation like this is killing me
Most people don't take this seriously. But this intervention is important for villain reforming. Some times all we need is a heart to heart
TBH its far more logical as opposed to just fighting each other forever under the pretext that the bad guy is bad because he's a bad guy.
stopping to see why the hell everyones doing what they're doing is a sensible idea, even if it doesn't work out.
Boy, are you gonna love this channel.
I think that’s more Spidey-esque approach to the situation than just beating the shit out of him. It’s humorous the way it plays out but this is something Spidey would do. Also, in the Ultimate Spider-Man comics Spider-Man talks to Kingpin while Kingpin is eating at a restaurant. At least, I think that’s what happened.
@@rexcatston8412 “You may be a bad-guy, but that doesn’t mean you’re a bad guy.” - Satan
"That's something Eric Cartman would say" legitimately had me lol 😆
Kingpin is the og Cartman.
Same 😆😆😆
"That DOES IT! Screw u Spiderman,☝️☝️ im going home! 👉👉
@@georgeamesfort3408😂😂
I love that despite appearances, Kingpin really is basically pure muscle. And anyone who heard him say that without seeing him straight body someone wouldn't believe him. It's what makes the entire conversation so believable
Yea you look at strong men types(like, deadlift half a ton types), they're not looking like Arnold from his body builder days, they're just fuckin HUGE.
The way he was throwing Miles in Spiderverse tho
@@Joesolo13 still though...some for hinges he can pull him seem kinda, much for a comic book villain. Are we sure he's not a mutant?
@@admech590
Comic book characters are usually stronger than what a human should, even without superhuman abilities
Like the times batman traded blows with people he really shouldn't
@@An_Entire_Lime or if you’ve seen Batman year one, he literally punched through bricks, a wall, and kicks down a tree
"B-But he can do backflips and stuff" it felt so freaking genuine I'm still laughing from the way he deliver it
Kingpin: "I'm not even mad, just how?!"
he sounds so flabbergasted after hearing that daredevil is blind
Even funnier is that Spidey arguably just outted Daredevil to attempt to win an argument. "Huh. I wonder how many blind people live and work in Hell's Kitchen...."
It's such a clean New York accent too
"OH HEY, THIS ISN'T A CARTOON" End had me laughing 🤣
*inserts a cartoon scream anyways*
That's not just any cartoon scream. That's Tom's iconic scream from Tom and Jerry.
@@CyanRooper Is it now, name me every episode where he screamed like that.
@@itsjoeyo8943 i think thats every episode that Tom got injured🤣
@@tautvydasjuska6769 sooo… every episode that was ever made?
I can just imagine Spider hobbling over to Daredevil and asking him if he knew Kingpin was fat, and Daredevil just being absolutely shocked over the fact it wasn't, in fact, a towering mass of chiseled muscle that he traded smacks with every other wednesday.
Well tat would be egg on bis face really! I imagine he'd feel his fists bouncing against his stomach and such
If he does this every other Wednesday, I imagine most of them end with Kingpin going: "Can we wrap this up, Daredevil? I got scrapbooking tomorrow morning."
Technically, it was.
Well you can be fat and muscular, half the people in WWE are.
I mean, afaik he basically IS solid muscle, he’s just very w i d e
I love how instead of trying to make himself look good after being accused of body shaming, Spiderman just goes all in on it and roasts the guy
Spidey already tried to apologize before and led him nowhere.
He was done with wokism
He learned better after that incident with Doc Ock.
The funniest part is that Kingpin is actually telling the truth
I mean, coming from someone who commits heinous crimes for a living, the accusation of something as petty as body-shaming doesn't hold much weight.
😉
He failed climbing the ladder as a young lad, now he’s climbed to the top. That’s actually a better story arc than most heroes and villains today.
That's actually surprisingly well put like damn
That's pretty poetic if you ask me.
Now I can't help but wonder if that part of his backstory was a visual metaphor for how he started at the bottom of the ladder, but due to his current position, could not climb up.
Kingpin's backstory is by far the funniest one out there. "I was fat, still am but now I'm also a crime lord."
Lex Luthor's backstory was literally "I'm bald and mad about it" before it got retconned lol
comics were silly as hell back in the day.
@@bloodyidit4506 i mean, there is a literal wall in Spideys rogues gallery
@@oz_jonesfor real?
@@oz_jones Like a straight up normal wall?
@@conscious_competence3703 yes
I mean, he definetly isn't lying bout that pure muscle thing if he can throw Spider-Man like that
Yeah, OG Kingpin was actually super strong. And considering plot determines a lot of circumstances, even in the 70s ppl complained how the heel can Spidey survive punches from the Hulk one comic and get pimp slapped by Kingpin another comic.
He trained himself in the art of Sumo to use his weight to his advantage and if you’ve seen a Sumo Wrestler fight that’s like fighting a bear in human form. Just like Kingpin they look fat but a lot of that is well trained muscle.
@@Broomer52 most sumos are like that but they also use fat to add to the mass. So really its a scary combo of muscle mass and fat that makes them who they are.
@@treyhelms5282 spiderman not durable but hits hard he part insect
There is smth called sumo, if you think the fighters are not like Kingpin then pick up a fight with one of them, i am certain you will regret it.
“I have a very big operation planned, Spider-Man.”
“What, you made dinner plans?”
Damn
Absolutely something he would say
@@johnathancain3700I'm pretty sure that's from web of shadows
funniest comment so far
Kingpin reconciling with his father is pretty heart-warming, especially since we all know parents find it really hard to admit what they do their kids is wrong in any capacity.
To be far, they could have made Kingpin do some time for the sake of letting his accomplices get away. And jail for prominent mobsters is very cozy.
when you complain they always say I gave birth to you
In the actual series, he kills him in order to hide his true identity
I'm surprised he reconciled with him coz in the actual episode, he had him beat up when the he was older.
I love the fact that him being pure muscle isn't a joke. He actually isn't fat as the Kingpin, that isn't made up to add to the video. He literally is so muscular that people _think_ he's fat. All that muscle is enough to let him actually overpower superheroes with super strength
Damn, he's fucking jacked.
This is 50% of the reason i love kingpin
He actually trained in the art of Sumo. He was a fat kid so he learned martial arts from fat martial artists with some Judo on the side for good measure. Don’t underestimate Sumo Wrestlers because of how they look that is also well trained muscle. Fisk could power slam you through the fucking floor if he wanted to.
Sumo has been proven to not work in real fights@@fist-of-doom487
While this is all 100% true, it’s even funnier cause this does sound like something Eric cartman would say 😂
Love how Spidey acknowledges how many times he's been called "problematic" in these skits when he really did nothing wrong
He doesn't acknowledge his behavior, he is just tired of woke jokes.
@@MyVanir Did we watch the same video
@@MyVanir Define woke
@@theunnamedaccount4009 "We've done enough woke jokes alright" 1:41
@@MommyKhaos honestly it's been thrown around so many times I can't figure out what it means anymore
Props to whoever voiced Spider-Man. It must have been very hard to find someone good enough to voice him.
@@LWLProductions Whenever there's someone else doing the voices, there's mention made of it, like when Gianni voiced Professor Zoom.
There is a person that comments this same structures comment in everyone of his vids jdk or this js that person but still
@@whirl3690 the description of this video states "Kingpin voiced by @skurletonVA"
For those unaware: this joke is from a community post made by fellow UA-camr Jehtt (funny guy whose content is similar to this but more Sonic-themed)
In the post, he said that he voices all male characters in his videos, and this comment format has become something of an inside joke in his video’s comment sections.
Clearly some of that leaked over here.
@@thisusernamewasnttakensomehow I can confirm, I have leaked over here like a spill from the pipes that normally connect to Jehtt's channel
“It’s not always about the money, Schpida-Man… it’s about the Mets, baby! Love the Mets, alright, baby, let’s go, get a home run, baby, love the Mets, let’s go Mets.”
-Kingpin
Schpida-man lmao
Some people might say that joke is getting old.
You know what is NOT getting old?
The Mets baby!
The fuck is a Met?
@@Salnax Kingpin and Rei both love the Mets, it’s a beautiful thing, Unites people
Love da Mets
"Y'know, I never hear anything like this from Daredevil!"
"Probably because he's blind."
The silence after this line just broke me lmao
The delivery on “but he can do backflips and stuff!” absolutely killed me.
Kingpin going "I'M SERIOUS" like he's trying to convince his friends he talked to a ghost or something is wonderful
“That’s something that Eric Cartman would say!” I spat out my water on that one
BEEFCAKE!
And honestly that's a very Spider-Man style line too.
@@whatsacone ah yes because drinking water isn’t a thing I’m totally drinking a frosty mocha environmentally friendly vegan fucking latte
I am continually amazed at your ability to portray conversations that wouldn't happen but don't feel unrealistic to the characters.
I could fully believe this in a comic
Yeah, I love how they even changed sound from their usual 60's Spiderman based videos in order to more closely reflect the sounds of the 90's cartoon.
In the actual episode he says that it's the time spent in prison that made him a criminal and made him learn the skill necessary to build his empire.
Which is oddly realistic for a comic book villain
Funnily enough, exactly what Spider-Man at first assumes as well. And yeah, he was right! Not a terribly shocking backstory at all.
Also he erased his name from police records. And he also murdered his own father.
And in the end (at least in this show) his son Is arrested and Kingpin testifies against him
Ironic
@@pond0479 no he didn't, he just had him taken out back and put into prison
@@katnguyen9746 he's talkin bout the show I think
I remember that episode:
"98% of my mass is muscles!"
Ok, that 2% is all around the neck
2:28 "Hey! This isn't the cartoon?"
Insert Tom screaming
What I love about this is the dialogue of him being all muscle was one of the few moments in the Spider-Man cartoon that I remember. He's grabbing Peter in a bear-hug, and just says something along the lines of "Let me show you what 300lbs of muscle can do!"
A friend of mine got inspired by it - since he was also a local round boy.
While he never dropped the weight and looks round, he can throw a grown man without issues.
@@NGMK You don't have to be a lean, muscular, titan-like adonis to be strong. Good on him for being inspired by it and getting through life. I know all too well what being the fat kid can be like in school...
Reminds me of Mulan when they fall off the cliff and the one huge guy pulls all of them and a horse back up.
@@BYERE Yea you look at top-tier strong men(not bodybuilders, but strong men), a lot of them don't look far off from kingpin. Or, for that matter, Uncle Iroh from Avatar.
@benjaminmorris4962fat isn't fuel for muscle. Carbs are, and you build muscle from protein. Now ok, to be more precise, fat is fuel for muscle in aerobic work, (just check how much fats marathon runners eat, and they burn that much), but strength is definately in anaerobic dimension. But it's just more efficient in most cases to constantly gain weight for ultraheavyweight powerlifter or a strongman, not waistiing time for cutting, when you can't progress strength-wise.
Kingpin got so pissed that he shifted his environment from 2D to 3D just so that Spider-Man can feel an extra dimension of pain
You cannot confine all the muscle to two dimensions when raging.
Cool.
@@klhaldane yes it is cool
Okay but this was pretty clever
It actually is a cannon fact that KingPin only has 2% of body fat, and the rest is muscle so I love this 😂
That's actually very unhealthy if true
@@CrizzyEyesI mean neither is being bitten by a radioactive spider but it is what it is
@@nicolasgraves9789 Well one of those things is basically magic and the other is rooted in a physiological concept that lots of people are familiar with. Just kind of a weird detail to include about a guy who's not supposed to have any super powers. Then again it would make sense if he has a complex about being fat.
It sounds like the sort of a thing someone ashamed of their weight would say.
The funny thing is a lot of power lifters look fat but are actually a lot more muscled than their appearance suggests. Same is true for sumo wrestlers (though in that case there's a lot of fat too.)
The original scene is already funny af, but with this it's even more comical.
“Because of my WEIGHT”
What's the original scene?
@@zlch4021"I took on a new name: Fisk. But I quickly became known as *FAT!* "
"b-but he can do backflips and stuff"
that voice acting was on point.
Kingpin tried to follow his father's footsteps but failed, because of his WEIGHT.
After his time in prison, he had acquired the skills to begin building his WEIGHT.
Kingpin became crime lord of New York City, because of his, WEIGHT.
I joined the mob to gain Weight. I failed because of my W E I G H T
If we go by the first two facts, then a third of the US population has the potential to be the next Kingpin.
I even took a new name FISK but I quickly became known as FAT
WEIGHT, what?
I then used my WEIGHT to break into the law enforcement system and delete all records of my WEIGHT.
Who would have thought that Kingpin failing at a Snake Eater moment due to his weight would lead him down a career path of a business man. What a thrill!
I was hoping to see a comment like this.
With darkness and silence through the night.
@@pizzaeater8905 I gave my life - not for honour, but for youuuuuu
Snake eater
@@lukemidgley8581 ~Snake Eater ~
I love how Spider-Man acknowledged the abundance of woke jokes he's been the butt of.
And the thing is, Kingpin being muscular is actually canon and true. He really does have big muscle mass that makes him look fat.
400 pounds 3% body fat. Was his weakest most out of shape state I could find.
I just love how Fisk elaborates that it wasn't how his father testified against him in court or the years he spent in prison is what made him Kingpin. He just literally can't pull himself up a ladder, frustrating Spider-Man to no end.
*Most compelling Origin Stories.*
Batman: "My parents were murdered, therefore I became a crimefighter seeking Justice for all."
Iron Man: "I was a weapons manufacturer but after seeing the tragic effects of war, I stopped being the problem and became the solution."
Spider Man: "When earning my powers, I was selfish at first with them, but
after my uncle died, I decided to use my powers for the good of all mankind."
Kingpin: "I couldn't make it up the fuckin' ladder."
He never had the makings of a varsity athlete.
@@JimmyBoy9878 Eh, I think he could've made one hell of a football player. But this is the career choice he made so...
@@shadowtrooper4435 coulda gone pro if he hadn't joined the family business
"BUT HE CAN DO BACKFLIPS AND STUFF"
This line friggin sent me, holy shit
He sounds so offended
1:28 The delivery here is just so perfect.
Fun fact - that genuinely IS muscle. The reference to all of Kingpin's 'fat' being muscle in this skit is 100% factual according to the source material. The guy works out and eats well. If not for being a mobster monster he'd be an inspiring take on how we can improve ourselves with diet and exercise - though he might be going a bit too far given just how bulky all that muscle is.
I love how none of this is exaggerated from Spider-Man TAS. He literally couldn't pull himself up and his dad let him take the fall in court. 😂
the "family counseling" part is the only incorrect part lol
"but he can do backflips" had me rolling
He just sat there for a moment contemplating life with that daredevil statement, lol
2:00 "I mean for the longest time I thought your name was Kingpin because you're shaped like a fuckin' bowling ball." Gold.
The funniest part is the part of him being muscular now isn't him coping or in denial. In Marvel he's in like the top 5 strongest non-powered humans.
The guy is just some mob leader, yet he has strength that can rival plenty of super-powered folks. I'm pretty sure him being made up of almost entirely muscle is true.
You think he would beat Thanos without the glove or Stones ?
@@RafaelPereira-dc9ir He's 300 pounds of pure muscle.
Thanos is 800 pounds...
@@irok1 But Thanos ain't pure muscle
@@icetide9411 5% body fat
The best part is that in the original 90's cartoon, Kingpin actually has his own father executed simply because he considered him a loose end, same as what his father did to him in his backstory. It wasn't even spite, but simply a matter of eliminating all connections to his past. he didn't harbor any ill intent despite the tragedy of his own parent abandoning him and even grew to become powerful from it.
I love how Kingpin is so ready to share his life story with Spider Man in such a friendly way, despite the situation he's in. "Tell me where I'm losing you", is just so casual it makes me wonder if Kingpin is going to offer Spider Man a cup of coffee next.
"Did ya think about that kingpin?" is the point where I lost it and burst out laughing
I cried 11 different times throughout watching this video. Truly Kingpin’s tragic backstory is the greatest in comic history.
Kingpin saying "Well I've never heard anything like this from Daredevil" feels like a comment on how the Daredevil series made Wilson Fisk a character with a tragic background that grew up to become the menacing leader of a major crime syndicate, whereas the cartoon explanation is more like "Oh, aren't you a chonky boi? Wait, how are you able to crush my spine without gasping from the exertion?!"
Kingpin's past, his father was always a criminal, but not a successful one. He dragged his son to the life of crime. When Fisk became the kingpin and reunited with his now old father.
His father saw what his son became and finally accept him, but Kingpin tells him that his son cease to exist when he left him in prison. Kingpin ordered his men to kill him. His father was horrified and begged for mercy, but he was murdered for betraying his own son.
Kingpin really wanted to show his father that he became what his father couldn't. His father would never be part of his son's criminal empire.
Kingpin's son Richard went to jail and Kingpin used his father's lessons to sacrifice his son. His son went to prison.
I remember at the end, Kingpin look at the picture of his family. He's all alone and all he has left now is his empire. He became worse than his father. He said how long he has to wait till his son exact his revenge. Kingpin now knows what awaits him at the end.
1:45 actually true if you saw the series from 1994, King-pin would use his strength to release himself from the restraints of another villain
You're not giving 90s Kingpin a weird semi-European accent, immersion shattered.
Solid JJ can't exactly do the voice 100
@@ricardonb6375 beggars can't be choosers I suppose
Its funny you say semi European considering he was voiced by Roscoe Lee Browne, an African American actor with a notable career.
@@ryanbauer3680 presumably they just went "Oh he's evil? Let me do my evil voice." Everyone knows vaguely European voices are evil.
@@SimonBuchanNz (Voices agreement in Hans Gruber accent)
I LOVE 90s spiderman. It has such a special place in my heart.
This is really funny because Fisk is such a ham in the orignal series, so I'm imagining him chewing the scenary during this whole bit. Just shouting from the far end of a big room.
in my case that's the show which was my introduction to Spiderman
Calling Kingpin the Eric Cartman of crime might have been pushing it.
Given Kingpin's resources, Cartman would be waaay more evil and ruthless.
Given Kingpin's resources, Cartman would be waaay more evil and ruthless.
There's a bit more to Kingpin's backstory than that.
As a child, Wilson Fisk was bullied at school for being fat. He started working out to get stronger and stand up for himself. Fisk eventually teamed up with his former bullies to form a gang.
He was recruited by crime boss Don Rigoletto as his bodyguard and eventually became his right hand man. But then, Fisk betrayed Rigoletto and killed him. He took over his organization and eventually became the most powerful crime boss in New York City.
That's when everyone started calling him the Kingpin.
Because of his weight
@@Studoku Yes. Because his size makes him super strong 💪
Nah I prefer the funny backstory a lot more so I'll stick with that. I don't come here for serious backstories
I find it very funny that "he looks fat but all that weight is actually pure muscle which makes him a physical powerhouse" is the excuse they use for both Kingpin and _Wario._
I love how spider says “wait, this isn’t a cartoon” as he’s thrown around by kingpin
So that's what he said in that last moment. Thanks!
Then spider man lets out a tom scream
Ah, yes... Not being able to climb up a ladder would also be my villain arc of choice
You know, I have never been able to climb well...
🔫
I see a ladder and I’m immediately like….. I can’t see myself climbing this thing….. guess I’ll be a big fat man and run a mob!
Needs the "Climb Ladders Faster" upgrade
@@northwindkey needs the “fat reduction” upgrade…. He said it! Not me!
For a moment I thought Spider-Man was going to ask:"And after all these years do you finally manage to climb that fire escape?"
0:40 "I uh- got older ?" That killed me xd
i fucking love the slightly insecure delivery of the “yes” at 1:49
That Daredevil joke took me all the way out 😂🤣😂
The "it's all muscle" thing might have something to it when you realize he can yeet Spiderman across a room
It sounds like BS but it actually isn't pfft!
I remember reading somewhere that his bodyfat% is like 2, lol.
I totally remember Kingpin saying that "pure muscle" line in the original cartoon lol
He is pure muscle. Bro literally throws a car
"Well I've never heard anything like this from Daredevil."
"Yeah probably because he's blind." Even if Kingpin knew that it's such a good retort from Spiderman.
The silence when he found out Daredevil was blind 😆😆 2:10
Might be the funniest one yet. When Kingpin explains why he became a criminal mastermind or when Spiderman told him he sucked I was in tears.
The interaction between them is perfect. The script is funny but it's the voice acting and comedic timing that sells it.
Canonically only 2% of the Kingpins boy is fat, He is also Skilled in Judo and hapkido
Also I love when a villian participates in healthy activities, like Scrapbooking.
I kinda expected Spider-Man to go: "Prove it!"
After Kingpin said it's all pure muscle only to throw him out of the window.
That would have been an equally brilliant ending
He turns into Spiderverse kingpin and down smashes spiderman
@@massgunner4152 Better yet, he breaks Spider-Man's back and he becomes addicted to painkillers. Scarlet Spider takes over for a while only for Peter to come back later after battling his addiction.
0:56 I know Kingpin is lying here because the trial happening that soon is a fantasy
Truly dissected the Kingpin in his entirety. Bloody hilarious thanks for this.
Also when I saw the thumbnail I couldn't help but hear this kingpin's voice from the show. Roscoe Lee Browne was the BEST kingpin voice I've heard yet, though Michael Clarke Duncan was pretty cool too.
I was having a bad day today, and this video gave me a well-deserved laugh. Thank you. That Tom scream at the end was pure gold 🤣🤣
1:55 “That’s something Eric Cartman would say!” Holy shit that had me rolling!!!!
"I'm not fat, I'm just big boned!"
I always like to think that the villain's goons just stop and watch the bs unfold. (The bit at the end caught me off guard though.) Great video as always!
I love the sudden cuts from comic-strip-frame-to-frame to fully blown live actions.
jj is breaking into our world :0
Not to be that guy but... That's the Spider-Man PS4 game lol
@@Chic1 okay nerd
Best channel of all time on yt. Right here
That ending absolutely killed my sides. Was not expecting that at all.
1:43 I mean, that's technically true. Kingpin is like the Bane of Spider-Man.
I think Kraven is more like the Bane of Spiderman
I thought it was Venom
"That's something Eric cartman would say" killed me
I was thinking of Mac in Sunny in Philly during that season of his weight gain
Oh man, this guy's videos never miss. They are always hilarious. Bite-sized, quick videos but they are so goddamn funny that they might as well be an hour long. The moment where Spider-Man just says to kingpin 'fuck you' is when I lost it. Like imagine a villain just giving this whole last monologue and the superheroes response is casually just: "fuck you". That's hilarious 😂
Hey, that 90's Peter voice is pretty spot on. Damn.
Oh my god. That scream at the end just killed me. It was so good
So glad you got Gehrig for this, he’s the GOAT.
Hilarious, as always! Thank you, and please keep it up!!
To give kingpin credit, his bulk is ferocious. Man is so strong he can 1v1 Spiderman and Dr. Doom, and not instantly die, AS A REGULAR GUY. NO POWERS OR NOTHING, JUST BULK
Omfg I love you so much jj😂😂 hopefully these vids provide you with some kind financial freedom, thanks man
This just reminds me of how amazing the music of the 90s cartoon was. It gave the show this epic epic feel to it. And I remember this episode haha
absolutely great video man, great detail on adding the music from the series too. I’d love to see more of this 🤣
How can spiderman not understand Kingpin’s backstory? Not being able to climb a ladder is perfectly synchronous with running all crime in NYC. One of the best written villains ever. I think Solid JJ is just salty he can’t write great stories like Kingpin’s backstory
“Oh hey this isn’t a cartoon-“ **Tom and Jerry scream**
Solid, your timing, delivery and voice acting is just on point dude. You kept digging and how you basically own a whole new format of meme. XD
“We’ve done enough woke jokes” 💀
What's about to happen to you isn't gonna be very wholesome 100, Spidey
Look, Kingpin. You're making a bi-
Wait, did you just say Wholesome 100?
@@CyanRooper
Uh no
@@WhaleManMan Really? I think you just sai-
@@CyanRooper
No I didn't
@@WhaleManMan Ar-are you a Redditor? Are you fucking serious?
This is so funny to me because this truly was the only motivation the animated series gave for him being kingpin.
I love how Kingpin stutters a bit in the middle while bragging about how he's actually muscular as if to deny that he really is fat
This might be one of your best work, Solid...had me laughing from beginning to end!
"OH hey this isn't a cartoon" man it's the little dialog that makes it so good.